Machaland was basically a star of the city level threat considering we fought a first kindred who even weakened still almost won we have to start getting them next season
@azeria1 either we will fully follow 3 parts just like dantes inferno or we will just have 13 cantos but one way or another we will have at least one aleph ego in canto 9 or 8
@@azeria1I don't think it's an impossibility we get our first ALEPH weapon ID in Walpurgis V or VI. Maybe not a full ALEPH ID, but an ALEPH weapon certainly isn't out of the question.
I honestly was expecting it to be more niche and has synergy with Bleed, but another aoe nuke to the piles, I guess Also Yearning Don still does more damage compared to Binds Heathcliff even without her conditions actived. Heathcliff will only do 33 damage against 1 enemy while Don will do 42 damage (assuming she rolled all head), it nearly doubled with her conditions fulfilled. Yearning Meursault is just a Bleed version of budget Everlasting, if only Bleed has the Count to do that in the first place
he's stronger than don ego, it's because Meursault can proc bleed up to 5 times in his ego, alongside his own damage. that's why he has no attack weight
@hellbounded2602 for that to happen enemy has ti have 5 or more coins or Merasoult has to lose the clash and unlike don he can die if he looses the clash
@@alenoxplays8448 no, he naturally can proc bleed on his coins DURING the ego, not clash, you can not even clash with it and he will proc bleed up to 5 times
400 Roses wasn't even in its own goddamn territory and its ability was still active. That level of power is absurd, especially since its main ability seems to involve forcibly draining its victims of their blood.
@@vintage6900 "fixed to zero" please read, they are fixed to 1 and not 0, also, the passive for dulcinea gives her unbreakable coins power, so im assuming it works the same for regret.
@@Silancet this might not be true, I know coin power down works on the unbreakable coins after losing so it's possible character passives might still affect it
the only one i can see being somewhat better than these egos in some cases is Binds Heathcliff, Bind Outis on the other hand... still, how are either of these egos dissapointing anyways?
@@akus11037 Don's ego requires bloodfest consuming allies ot enemies to do damage, while also requiring 20 bleed on enemie for coin power limiting it potential to bleed teams, while previous waws coud easily used anywhere else. Without any boosts it's rolls 15 which for waw ego is absolutely atrocious. It's supposed to be a bleed ego but it's barely even inflicting any if it. And it's unique status effect requires lust absolute reasonans to conditionaly deal 30 lust damage at turn end (wow, so cool) Mersault one also inflicts basically no bleed, instead consuming bleed count if you resonance it (literally why the fuck woud you want it) But at very least rose wedge is pretty good and might be useful in future content if he gains better bleed IDs than ones he has now. Oh, they have unbreakable coins you say? I don't care. One, these egoes have special effects on clash win to even justify using then, and two if i am loosing a clash with my waw ego i am restarting fight instantly because it's just a big waste of resources.
@@schnozgaming989 Fair points tbh, but you don't really need the bloodfeast to do damage with don's ego. Without the coin conditionals you're still hitting 7 enemies with a 4 coin skill, it's a lot of damage even when it's rolling a max of 15. As for Meursault, first of all the conditional is a lot easier to reach, a 21 to 29 4 coin skill is also pretty good damage, and rose wedge seems like a pretty strong bleed potency support. I don't think you'd be using this ego when you're just starting the bleed stacking or when low on count, and you can still somewhat manage it since the last three activations are resonance based(the fact that it activates on *any* highest resonance can make it inconvenient, won't deny that). Still, bleed has a lot of count support now, to the point where potency can be more important than count when you have Ring Outis, Nfaust and Rmeursault (if you're going to use a meur on a bleed team it's that one). I do agree that the unbreakable coins don't add anything to these egos since they're not applying much of anything. Meanwhile, let's look at the bind egos from last season: Outis has a tremor ego that applies a tremor type that doesn't do anything worthwhile and has a standard waw roll, and Binds Heathcliff applies what, 4 sinking, 4 tremor? king in binds is an extremely strong buff to any heathcliff with a nuke skill but it doesn't do anything in encounters against a single enemy (not that you'd be using it against a single foe, but still) and it also has the standard waw roll. It's not bad by any means, but they don't differ much from the previous waw egos either.
@@akus11037 i think binds heathcliff is great because it's introduced "low sp cost, but sinner loosing sp st turn end" thingy, and this is makes it great for gradually increasing chanses of hitting heads, next turn buffs are great for damage nuking with something like sewer knot or wildcliff s3, and the passive is pretty nice even through it tied to resonance. I agree what tremor fracture is pretty weak compared to other types of tremor, but you still can use this ego for it sheer power, a something you can't use multicoin egoes for because a random 5% can easily ruin it all. Of course 15 power three coins aoe is sorta nice but at this point we have an access to a lot of IDs with aoes with three coins and higher skill power (Wildcliff, regret faust, spicebush, dawnclair) and using a rather expensive ego seems like a waste of resources. I do tho plan of maxing the crap out of mersaults one by adding it 2 coin power from conditionals, 2 from regret, 1 from focused attack, 2 from bloody mist and additional power from bleed rock to just see how insane it woud be
KK Gregor thinks he's a part of the team 😭😭😭
The insane defense level down in question:
@@shenshiya9474 Counterargument, he rolls like shit, and ring Outis and Barber Outis exist
@@arbiterzena fair enough, honestly i just use him as support for my bleed team
He is not a part of the team but he is just the vessel for Garden of Thorns
soon.. soon... gregor will be superior!
Infinite bleed and lust damage with Sanguine desire and pair of Yearning-Mircalla
Dont forget Contemt, Awe on top of that.
And to think we still have Aleph class left, I wonder how over the top those are gonna be.
Ruina synchronization
Machaland was basically a star of the city level threat considering we fought a first kindred who even weakened still almost won we have to start getting them next season
@azeria1 either we will fully follow 3 parts just like dantes inferno or we will just have 13 cantos but one way or another we will have at least one aleph ego in canto 9 or 8
@@azeria1I don't think it's an impossibility we get our first ALEPH weapon ID in Walpurgis V or VI. Maybe not a full ALEPH ID, but an ALEPH weapon certainly isn't out of the question.
@@azeria1 It was a Urban Nightmare ircc
They finallly made fragment of allurement worth getting.
I just got Heathcliff's binds ego, can't wait to wait for another 8 months to get this absolute PEAK EGO 😂
it doesn't matter if don quixote fails or not, EVERYONE IS GETTING DESTROYED, if we wanted a screen clearer well then here she is
I honestly was expecting it to be more niche and has synergy with Bleed, but another aoe nuke to the piles, I guess
Also Yearning Don still does more damage compared to Binds Heathcliff even without her conditions actived. Heathcliff will only do 33 damage against 1 enemy while Don will do 42 damage (assuming she rolled all head), it nearly doubled with her conditions fulfilled. Yearning Meursault is just a Bleed version of budget Everlasting, if only Bleed has the Count to do that in the first place
They didn't give Merasoult attack waight cuz he is a free ego 😢
This is why binds outis is the goat
he's stronger than don ego, it's because Meursault can proc bleed up to 5 times in his ego, alongside his own damage. that's why he has no attack weight
@@hellbounded2602 don't forget Meursault's trump card: regret coins
@hellbounded2602 for that to happen enemy has ti have 5 or more coins or Merasoult has to lose the clash and unlike don he can die if he looses the clash
@@alenoxplays8448 no, he naturally can proc bleed on his coins DURING the ego, not clash, you can not even clash with it and he will proc bleed up to 5 times
400 Roses night be the first Aleph Level Threat we face... I mean LOOK AT THIS.
I mean its gift just takes 20% of your life away no questions asked so I wouldn't doubt it
400 Roses wasn't even in its own goddamn territory and its ability was still active.
That level of power is absurd, especially since its main ability seems to involve forcibly draining its victims of their blood.
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Contempt, Awe
Where?
does Regret's passive apply to broken unbreakable coins? i'd assume not but if it did that would be crazy
I didn’t test it but I am assuming not because broken unbreakble coins have their coin power fixed to zero
im not sure if regret works on ego skills, but since they are coins anyways, it should work
@@vintage6900 "fixed to zero" please read, they are fixed to 1 and not 0, also, the passive for dulcinea gives her unbreakable coins power, so im assuming it works the same for regret.
@@Silancet this might not be true, I know coin power down works on the unbreakable coins after losing so it's possible character passives might still affect it
Okay I never whale in limbus but this season it’s worth it
Sup ainz dude
Ngl, both of these were disappointing, still think what previous main bp egoes were better
the only one i can see being somewhat better than these egos in some cases is Binds Heathcliff, Bind Outis on the other hand... still, how are either of these egos dissapointing anyways?
@@akus11037 Don's ego requires bloodfest consuming allies ot enemies to do damage, while also requiring 20 bleed on enemie for coin power limiting it potential to bleed teams, while previous waws coud easily used anywhere else.
Without any boosts it's rolls 15 which for waw ego is absolutely atrocious.
It's supposed to be a bleed ego but it's barely even inflicting any if it.
And it's unique status effect requires lust absolute reasonans to conditionaly deal 30 lust damage at turn end (wow, so cool)
Mersault one also inflicts basically no bleed, instead consuming bleed count if you resonance it (literally why the fuck woud you want it)
But at very least rose wedge is pretty good and might be useful in future content if he gains better bleed IDs than ones he has now.
Oh, they have unbreakable coins you say?
I don't care. One, these egoes have special effects on clash win to even justify using then, and two if i am loosing a clash with my waw ego i am restarting fight instantly because it's just a big waste of resources.
@@schnozgaming989 Fair points tbh, but you don't really need the bloodfeast to do damage with don's ego. Without the coin conditionals you're still hitting 7 enemies with a 4 coin skill, it's a lot of damage even when it's rolling a max of 15. As for Meursault, first of all the conditional is a lot easier to reach, a 21 to 29 4 coin skill is also pretty good damage, and rose wedge seems like a pretty strong bleed potency support. I don't think you'd be using this ego when you're just starting the bleed stacking or when low on count, and you can still somewhat manage it since the last three activations are resonance based(the fact that it activates on *any* highest resonance can make it inconvenient, won't deny that). Still, bleed has a lot of count support now, to the point where potency can be more important than count when you have Ring Outis, Nfaust and Rmeursault (if you're going to use a meur on a bleed team it's that one). I do agree that the unbreakable coins don't add anything to these egos since they're not applying much of anything. Meanwhile, let's look at the bind egos from last season: Outis has a tremor ego that applies a tremor type that doesn't do anything worthwhile and has a standard waw roll, and Binds Heathcliff applies what, 4 sinking, 4 tremor? king in binds is an extremely strong buff to any heathcliff with a nuke skill but it doesn't do anything in encounters against a single enemy (not that you'd be using it against a single foe, but still) and it also has the standard waw roll. It's not bad by any means, but they don't differ much from the previous waw egos either.
@@akus11037 i think binds heathcliff is great because it's introduced "low sp cost, but sinner loosing sp st turn end" thingy, and this is makes it great for gradually increasing chanses of hitting heads, next turn buffs are great for damage nuking with something like sewer knot or wildcliff s3, and the passive is pretty nice even through it tied to resonance. I agree what tremor fracture is pretty weak compared to other types of tremor, but you still can use this ego for it sheer power, a something you can't use multicoin egoes for because a random 5% can easily ruin it all. Of course 15 power three coins aoe is sorta nice but at this point we have an access to a lot of IDs with aoes with three coins and higher skill power (Wildcliff, regret faust, spicebush, dawnclair) and using a rather expensive ego seems like a waste of resources.
I do tho plan of maxing the crap out of mersaults one by adding it 2 coin power from conditionals, 2 from regret, 1 from focused attack, 2 from bloody mist and additional power from bleed rock to just see how insane it woud be
@@schnozgaming989Don's will still do obscene damage even without Bloodfeast though. Notice nobody in the vid is consuming it.