It is very fun to watch other people discover project moon. I would have never expected that some random Korean indie game I’ve never heard of in my life would take over my life for the next like 1.5 years and counting. Watching other people make that same realization is truly entertaining.
One funny thing to note in regards to "If they wanted a hardcore game project moon shouldn't have made it a gacha" is that Limbus is literally only a gatcha because PM ran out of money and it was a last ditch effort to keep the studio afloat + fund the next game.(Though limbus seems to have absorbed the 'next game' into itself over time.) This was explicitly admitted during development/the announcement.
@@RukiaChinq nah bro 10 years is a long wait, and since KJH doesn't want to expand his team, there is little to no chance for us of seeing any new game before that
Kim says that they don't have time or resource for another game. So Limbus essentially the only thing they're focusing on developing rn. At first it was to fund their game.... but it got too big to leave out lol. I hope they're secretly still developing it tho.
A small thing about the luxcavations. You don't earn only 50% rewards, it's actually 50% EXTRA rewards to make up for the extra energy used for it. So if you get two xp tickets normally, you'd get three instead.
Yes He may have worded it wrong but it still punishes you because 150% instead of 200% when you skip since you use 2 runs worth of modules!!! I hope my wording was clear take care have a good day! (:
@neloberry9476 But for people with 500+ modules, and grind MD a lot. I don't think they mind the inefficient. If I have that many modules, I'll gladly skip them.
@@duyanhbui5386 i mean that every project moon game tends to have a difficulty spike so sudden its infamous, like Lob Corp's days 20 to above or LoR's magical girls
PM actually resolved the whole issue with difficulty recently since they included a unique system called Chain Battles, where when a Sinner dies, they get replaced by a different sinner in backup. This allows for a lot of room for error and gives PM more breathing room as to how they design fights. Their is one particular fight in Canto 7 that takes advantage of the new system and the whole fight is both incredibly difficult but very fair at the same time to players.
It’s a neat system that allows a significant more margin for error Though I still wished the dead sinners provided a bit of sin resources for the reinforcement Then again removing the SP cost for death as long as there is one more in the chain is already a significant help option
At the same time, chain battles only exacerbate the issue of grinding even further. Sure you don’t need to have all 12 of your sinners be up to level, but it’s still more tickets you have to farm to make good enough use of the mechanic. Hopefully Pmoon continues to add more ways to farm necessary resources, since it’s still a pretty big grind fest even with the change to leveling and improved luxcavations (changes that a new player won’t even get to feel until canto 7 anyways lmao)
@@dep7910the last part is crucial, like by the time "new" player gets to 7th canto he is by no means can't be considered a new one, however seeing how with every new canto all the previous ones are becoming winratable and speedrunnable no wonder that even at 7th canto some call themselves "new". Well, PM makes a trap for themselves by "helping" new players to catch up as fast as possible and thus making them having much less resources than all the other players
Even though I don't play gacha games I don't think it's a bad thing for a gacha game to be difficult it seems like an unnecessary limitation to the genre to keep all gacha games casual.
People don't like to struggle, to put it simply And people who don't like, don't come back to try, and that's potential revenue that may never come back
I don’t mind difficulty it’s more not all archetypes are created equal in terms of utility and sustain Some are better then others which equals the bigger frustration You can’t get some of the earlier season content to be able to use their conditionals mostly the first season which isn’t totally surprising But it can be vexing granted as long as you can get the season pass You can usually just grind out a new archetype pick every other week which is nice
gacha game being hard is not bad thing, but if the story or progression is being gated by hard stuff it will be a problem. PM decision to gatekeep you from accessing events or .5 is kinda silly for me, its like if in arknight you just started the game reach chapter 4 and there are new anniversary event but you cannot access before finishing chapter 13
It's a dangerous balance to make. Nobody would care if a game mode is hard and basically only for whales but if it's even hard for something as mundane as the story or event progression it would be seen as a very cynical and aggressive attempt to make the players roll for the new, shiny and obviously taylor-made character that makes the stage/event piss easy. I know Limbus doesn't do this exactly but many people don't like seeing this kind of difficulty spike in a gacha of all things.
I gotta say Heathcliffs canto is what cemented this game's story as one of the best out there, and what got me locked in for the entire ride. As a psychologist his portrayal of an inferiority complex is extremely well made, it's not always a meek, submissive feeling, and Heathcliff just like in the books is a prime exemple of it; Honestly? It's just peak.
The mili song through violets was excellent as well which I feel like she always adds the extra kick the visuals and gameplay need to sell the level as well
About the support system, well, there is one. You can borrow your friend's ID's for a stage if you want to. Although it is poorly explained, so not surprising it's not a common knowledge
@@quackquack8775Oh God, RR2 is pure nightmare. I like Sign of Rose boss fight but fighting so no one will cry for the fifth times really bring down my sanity
Yeah man, for new players it's probably due to the complexity of game mechanics but once they get their IDs and level them up, it's smooth sailing (with some noticeable bumps). But for us oldies, it's just a matter of time to beat the fights in the game, that's why I kept my sinners at 5 levels below the new level cap increase as I progressed through the new canto. Saves me some tickets for new IDs too.
@@profdinding6455yeah, kinda sad that i waited for half a year only to finish new canto in 3 days. The only fight i had real problems with was pequidot trio i think.
Yeah, but Library of Ruina exists and is actually a "real" game. (I hate this negative connotation that gacha games are not considered real games when games like Genshin Impact dunk on the majority of AAA games released nowadays in terms of love and quality given)
@@crowraterohale AAA development is kinda dead(really liked Alan Wake 2 though). Indie stuff or something around Yoko Taro's budget is still much better than Genshin, and I'm not even a real Genshin hater.
@@damianxi4133I mean if you get bad heads hit your gonna get sent to Jesus anyway Sinking teams and charge teams entire gimmick is to manipulate coin power to avoid resetting 1limbillion times
A single player game with a gacha haphazardly slapped on it. Perfect description for this game that I love (and hate at times because RNG won't give me Spider Ryoshu-). *Did I just hear Gregor Slander-*
Back when Sunshower Yi Sang was released it was busted but instead of nerfing it they basically decided to just make it take more sanity while also upping it all the way to a WAW ego
I think one of the biggest appeals of limbus IS the difficulty because compared to most gacha games where you pick the most broken units and win, even if you pick the strongest units in limbus you still need to actively engage with the mechanics or else you will get folded. Best example is the 7-34 boss where you literally can’t just throw all your best units at her but actually have to read her passives through the fight just like ruina
Nah. If you actually talking about 7-34 it's very easy to cheese with rapture. I've killed her without losses and almost without interacting with her mechanics. Instead you need to think about building and mainlining rapture stack.
@@ИльяКривошей-й5п Nope, they're right. Rupture only works if you have the units that make its count work properly, and not everyone has those specific units even by that point. So in most cases it's more difficult(though not by too much, you just need to read to make it easier).
Hey, Psychie, a little tip for playing Limbus, is don't pull much. I'm a guy who only buys the battlepass and ends up with 260 ish pulls every Walpurgisnacht. Just refresh your energy once daily and you'll have enough to hopefully get all you need and you'll still be guaranteed at least one thing.
10:55 I get what you mean. Everyone being fundamentally good people is boring. Honestly, that’s the reason I dropped WuWa despite the generosity shown. It’s just not interesting when I know they have good intentions from beginning to end and baddies are baddies. Writing gets too simple.
Kinda had a similar experience with Hsr and Limbus, Hsr also is not afraid to have an initially unlikeable gacha character, but said character became one of the most beloved through how his story is presented. His personality is still kinda scummy, but he has a lot of depth that people enjoy seeing.
Fr... I still play Wuwa for the gameplay but story-wise it got so abhorently disappointing, I fail to see why they had to change their original vision(CBT1) for the "harem anime" they're making with the current one, I don't think it's plain terrible just disappointing AF.
I think hard gacha games are fine. I believe Limbus gives players more than enough help and info to beat any boss with the main sinner IDs, so I think giving powers like fully healing your team would be too overpowered. At that point, you might as well just watch UA-cam videos of the story (which is totally fine if you don't enjoy the gameplay or find it difficult).
As a longtime Project Moin fan, Limbus is... still a difficult thing. Lemme shed some light on that if someone from "outside" reads this. Basically the "old" fanbase went through two hellishly complex and hard games and it shaped it somewhat. With Project Moon not making of further games for several years, many yearn for limbus to hit this difficulty again, while newer players or people from the gacha communities are more used to the genre being casual. There is a bit of a conflict in interest, and stuff like kim comes from the "old design" being implemented into a gacha. Same goes for seeing enemy skills, passive and so on. Its the core principles of "die, learn from it, retry" that all games share. With canto 7 and a certain fight still being unnerfed... it seems like they start ramping up difficulty in a good way atleast. And nothing in gacha games felt as good as beating up Kim, Ricardo, the epic RR bosses and 6-34 (iirc) and now the new bosses in c7 But holy fuck I agree on the new player part, all of it is... so bad. I started a second account to get through the older cantos again and see how they keep up.
On the new player thing I wish they re-introduced early walpurgis story,Event or RR story into the game, it's weird when characters suddenly start talking about mirror dimensions in the main plot,Dante talking about the IDs, or rooms opening inside the bus, without that actually happening in the story before. I imagine most of these gaps in the narrative are because those events are not in the game.
When I first played LobCorp I called it "stockholm syndrome simulator," because I'd sit there for an hour trying to complete a later day, suddenly watch my employees perish for the fourth time over a minor oversight and decide to call it a night, and then be back at it again within the next 24 hours.
Speaking of barriers to enjoy a game, this is the main reason why Nikke is pretty scummy: by the time you get to chapter 15 you are capped in progress by your character levels, which cannot progress past 160 without having five SSR characters limit broken three times. You can struggle to chapter 18 because the game provides three level 200 support characters, but if you want to go any further you either have to wait several months to get the characters to level 200 or bring out your credit card.
Think the 160 wall is a bit 50/50 if ppl find it to be problematic or not, i had some luck with it, was stuck at that wall for about little less then 1 month, while i did spend on the monthly gems pass, i also did not really calculate how i should get pas that wall. but you either need to plan for the wall, something new players will find hard, or you just have to get good (Lucky with the pulls), neither is not really optimal.
Massive skill issue tbh, for one, people are beating 21-32 without passing the wall, and two, passing the wall is mostly about resource management and not luck. If you get lucky on top of spending resources well, you can pass it instalty, otherwise, you'd get stuck for a month, two at worst.
This is straight up false tho; yes the 160 wall can be frustrating for players who never watch creator guides or learn how to manage resources, but it absolutely DOES NOT hard cap you at a certain point in the story. One of the main things you got wrong is you DON'T actually need to max limit break 5 SRR units to get past lvl 160, this is a common misunderstanding of the mechanic. Getting just ONE character to Limit Break 3 lets you continue level that character up until 200, which means you could have a team of 5 SSR's where 4 of them are level 200 and your fifth is level 199 and you're much stronger and gotten much farther in the story, but haven't 'technically' gotten past the wall yet. The real wall is getting 5 SSR's to level 200 at which point you unlock a new feature in the Synchro to spend red cores to lvl 201+.
On the subject of assist mechanics if you are limbus friends with someone you can borrow one of their ID’s which can be a big help if you just need one more id for a team or just a generally strong id to help make it through something
I think the biggest issue with Limbus' difficulty is actually the grindy issue you talked about. Keeping IDs on-level is remarkably tricky, and I still don't have a functional team of each archetype despite being a day 1 player. (Which means I'm working with all the limited event, RR, and Battle Pass resources that new players don't and can't get) The game's difficult fights expect you to have a variety of IDs built, and it is not afraid to throw things at you that are explicitly bad for certain types of ID. And it's hard enough for newer players to keep one team on-level, let alone having to build an entire second one, especially since the EXP luxcavation stages are story-locked. Things have gotten better thanks to the new/returning player rewards, the level 45-50 EXP curve, and the Canto 7 Luxcavation releasing before the actually hard fights in the season, but it's still very much not great, and I hope they increase EXP income more somehow.
There was a couple updates about increasing the average of exp tickets so leveling would be a lot more level In the current implementation it costs quite a lot of modules still for a team I think I burned through about 50-70 for my second team It’s nice you get an archetype effectively for free if you fill out a season pass worth of XP But I still feel it’s definitely a solid commitment and your probably gonna pick out 2-3 teams to really specialize into it On a lighter note the thread up by about 20 percent was a really solid improvement
I feel like most people that quit genshin are people who are SUPER invested into gachas and are really really otaku and nerd centric (aka complete opposite of normies). I was EASILY able to get my friends, sister and girlfriend to play genshin, some still play to this day, but I showed them epic seven and reverse1999 and they couldn't care to even download them (I'm not even going to mention Nikke to them...).
why you showed them epic seven dawg, that game is hell XD, i swear playing FGO is better than Epic Seven, at least i dont smack my table after getting a final roll on a subset
I got tired of how slow everything feels. Exploring, grinding, and overly bloated dialogue. I enjoyed parts of the story but not all. I quit after the main Fontaine story and moved on to Wuthering Waves for my open world gacha. Everything feels faster to me and it has combat that's somewhat like devil may cry. But ill admit the story doesn't draw me in that much either.
@@midnighteclipsed2738 I showed them the cool cutscene animations. They actually really like those, but everything else about the game looked unfun to them
Genshin's popularity needs to be studied. It's really confusing to see such a game because massively popular among normies, while they show no interest towards other similar games
11:05 One of Limbus Company's primary perks in terms of gacha is that it manages to overcome the character bloat by just... restricting you to your twelve guys. That's your entire playable cast. You do not draw any new guys from the gacha - rather, you draw alternate universe versions of your 12 guys (though, of course, some of them are based on the characters you meet in the plot). Because of that, it doesn't NEED to turn plot into character advertisements, it doesn't NEED to tell you the character's entire deal; it can take its sweet time setting them up, giving you foewshadowing, and having you guessing about what the FUCK their entire deal is. Instead of creating a bloated BREADTH of characters, Limbus gacha provides a layer of DEPTH by not only providing extra worldbuilding, but also showcasing you various facets of your ever-present 12 guys. How would they behave if they were an employee in an overworked assassin guild? How would a straightforward guy who doesn't like being sneaky fit in? Could he, perhaps, fare better in a detective guild, or as a harpooner on a ship that hunts terrifying beasts? A timid boy escaped the fate of being recruited by a violent cult leader who massacred his family - what if she succeeded? What kind of headspace would he have after being coaxed to do the deed himself? Why would a big taciturn frenchman become a rapier-wielding livestreamer? All of these examples are actually in the game, I did not make them up.
6:40 The Luxcavations for threads give more if you skip them with bonuses though. That's what I would usually do for dailies then do normal exp luxcavations.
It's not more, they give you the same value. With bonus on threads skipping gives you the same as doing 1 bonus lux and 1 non bonus lux. So skipping 3 times is like doing 3 bonus luxes and 3 non bonus luxes. This is less efficient on modules still because you don't have much reason to do luxes without the bonus and you did the equivalent of 3 of them, however, its completly fine if you're not min maxing and not that big of an issue. It's still 75% effiecient if I rememeber correctly. The exp lux should be done manually anyways to get the daily bonus of killing enemies and it can be winrated most of the time.
@@haryok8940 Imo skipping THREADS is efficient. They're limited by daily bonus rewards and doing it manually at least once takes a while with any team. And they still cost 2/4 modules per run/skip unlike exp luxcavations that cost 3/6 now and are much faster (and can be winrated because winrating in focused encounters SUCKS). And 1 module is 1 hour of wait so 12 modules a day out of 24 (in case you don't refresh with lunacy) shouldn't be THAT conserning unless you die hard md slave.
You know I often talk about how easy I find this game and it really goes to show just how complicated Library is that I still think Limbus is a simple game
Even though wuwa hasn't had an insane update since launch the fact that they care is enough. Taking a break and coming back is totaly justifiable when you can skip too.
About the ZZZ fake out ate the start, whilst its suposed to be a joke i think zenless can have a slight degree of a more dark/mature story [Spoilers] Like the quest where you have to find the last recording of the grandaughters of some old man and its the ballarina twins that became ethereals and you had to kill them both, helping him just geting solace because he couldnt go to their show where the hollow appeared, this saved his life and her grandaughters where glad he didnt go because he would have died, but the grandpa cant help but feel like he abandoned them, and can only find joy that his grandaughters were helping people scape before becoming ethereals. Or like with quinyi where her memory is constantly wiped out by the public security, why they wipe her mind? Does she know something that the DSP want to hide? Belle and Wise parents are dead and the person they most cherished is the responsible for the hollow to appear in old eridu There is a hollow on the fucking moon, nothing is safe I thought pompey was a bad guy who wanted to screw with the sons of calydons, but he was a pretty honorable guy, and see him die while pleading to caesar to stop the corruption of the lake and go after julius while ether crystals was forminh on his skin was very tragic moment. But it seems the studio of zenless still have to bend their knees to mihoyo and dont put any type of lasting change or consequence on the characters and just focus on showing more and more fan service, like.... Come on, we already have ben bigger, we dont need anything else
the epilogue of the tour de inferno chapter hinting at the mc duo's backstory instantly got me so much more invested in seeing where the game's story goes, i loved it.
@@horace2358 yeah, i really like that they are trying to give more lore to wise and belle, the only think i found missing about the interlude was a funeral for pompey, have like a memorial with his jacket and his sword amd shield, or at least replicas, and maybe have lucius there acting all innocent and the sons of calydon trying to hold themselves to not attack him, im kinda hyped to see the other AI (the oni and ghost that are the "siblings" of fairy) and if the victoria housekeeping is going to betray us(they most probably wouldnt because they are playable amd have friend events) or the lore between anby amd soldier 11
project moon was always more focused on the community than money you can see that back in the days of lobotomy corp, project moon was listening and interacting with the community this reflects to limbus company they only make you pay money to get something faster (battle pass egos being available next season ect.)
limbus is quite an easy game, you don't have to play with only meta IDs, you can play with the IDs that you enjoy playing with as long as you understand the concepts of each IDs and bosses
As someone who's a day 1 player and started with Ruina, but got my own friends into Limbus eventually, i kinda get where you're coming from with the critique about Limbus's difficulty. That being said, i feel like enemies and mechanics themselves shoudn't be nerfed, since a huge appeal of the game is its really crunchy combat system that rewards smart team building and strategy. Instead, i think farming options and side content should be expanded so that newer players can have an easier time catching up to the current content. PM is doing great work so far with the EXP Luxcavation buff, so i don't doubt it'll happen eventually. I do like the idea of a team revival mechanic at the cost of the EX reward, though. Seems like a good way to still keep players engaged with the story.
I hate the idea of Team Revival because it takes literally all of the weight out of fights. I really don't need 40 lunacy that much. I WANT to be stuck. I really, really want to get my ass handed to me until I'm forced to learn how to win. That's what I came here for, and that's what I expect from PM, or otherwise I would've just went to replay LOR or LC.
It does make sense given that Dante canonically returns the sinners during fights (i.e. Ricardo, K-Corp, Bloodfiends) It can be a solution for the story-only players
@@aure6796 No, I want it to not exist. At all. No chill. I don't care if it's a "casual" game, I didn't ask for a casual game when I started playing Limbus. If some people don't like that, whatever, I guess.
New Player experience isn't the best. You know something needs tweaking if most of the community points you to a video made by a well-established Limbus Company youtuber for a tutorial instead of the game itself. (ESGOO shoutout!!!!)
I do wish there was a few tutorial levels for about 40 lunacy each Or a infinite punching bag that allows the player to try out different combinations to gauge how long ego takes to get out on the field and if the resonance of attacks are worthwhile Defense offset Counter through bleed effects Attack weight manipulation General nails application Paralysis and negative coin effects Negative coins and coin strengthening through the removal of negative coins in a clash at high SP These things would be nice to know instead of “lol get gud nerd”
@@tylerulfmann4586 i played through a whole season without knowing what offset was. i totally feel that. the first difficulty spike that killed me canto V
In my experience, Reverse1999 is the only turn-based gacha game I've played that actually delves deep into its mechanics in their tutorial system. They even test you after the demonstrations to see if you've learned anything. If you fail to do the mechanics properly, the enemies just 1-shot you to death during the tests. By the time you're finished with R1999's tutorial, you are already well equipped with the knowledge about the game's mechanics without needing to watch any external videos anymore.
@@crowraterohaleagree, I really liked this part, and I actually see this being implemented in Limbus somewhere in the beginning without being torn out from the lore, like training in a special room or smth.
14:54 Just a note: Refraction railway content does not end with the season itself, its more its own thing rather than being tied to the season, the current railway (RR4) will only end once the new railway comes. The only that is limited to the season in railway is the special effect banner and ticket you get if you complete the railway under 100 turns, the rest of the rewards do not change.
It's still a seasonal thing: it gives 10 pull with guaranteed seasonal S-rank; it has special reward for beating before season ends. But, like mirror dungeon, it changes later during season. So returning at season start players could take a chance to beat rr (it also becomes easier because of new lvl cap).
Getting filtered out by Walpurgis.... Understandable for i too would distort if i didnt pull Walpurgis night IDs but get jebaited by 1 limbillion annoucers instead hell i think someone pulled 5 pierres announcers lmao
Bro really read "additional rewards" and thought it meant "half rewards" then goes on to talk about the drawbacks when it actually gives you an *additional* 50%💀
He is kind of right... Skipping EXP Lux gives you 50% more rewards, but with *double* the cost. This makes not skipping luxcavation in the long term more worth it, but honestly its just much more better to skip it and get reduced rewards anyways.
@@Dewclaw7787 I think a 25% reduction in rewards for skipping 2 fights worth is fair tho tbh, deffo not like - the end of the world or obscenely unfair. I actually think it's pretty generous considering you could have to super grind it like most other games make you.
@@tyranoic6618 There's actually a recent post on the Limbus Company reddit that refutes this. TLDR: time-efficiency does in-fact beat the long-term benefits, and even if time wasn't taken into consideration, the benefits of not skipping are actually only in regards to module efficiency rather than reward efficiency, as you actually get more rewards long-term by skipping.
Given that Limbus is requiring all 45 of the dev staff to maintain and update, it will be difficult for there be new PM games; unless as Kim JiHoon said, collaborating with other game studios
Welcome back! Kim really is a pain for most players who got a lot of season 4 units cuz season 4 was just sinking with a touch of tremor and charge. This is one of the few times i have seen someone actually read the skills, practice the characters to overcome the boss Glad to see you are giving this game another try. Also just a recommendation, clear atleast refraction railway section 3, it gives you 30 pulls + a guaranteed 000 ID from season 4 Good luck on the rest of your Limbussy adventure Manager.
Having a game treat me like I’m an adult with reading comprehension and not feeding me the information like a baby like genshin and also having characters that are built up to be likable and not just dropped off traits that are good and wow heroic instead we have a bunch of misfits, which is hella relatable, and having a story and world that fucking goes so hard that most other games wouldn’t even step a single foot in.
Remember this for new players...The power of friendship exist through support if you can't move past a level. Add random people as a friend, they won't mind.
I'm impressed by seeing about the difficulty spike cuz most limbus players are here since day 1, most them have spent their time to farm about 80% of all ids and everyone kind of agrees that is a easy game, my tip about combat is that is all about who gets to play, make the enemy fall into how you play or it will force you to play their gimmick
Well yeah obviously if you have 80% of IDs and have been playing since day 1 the game would be very easy. I think he's mostly talking about newer players/returning players saying it's difficult.
@@Thunderdroceon i mean every new player ive seen says the game is pretty easy, im a returning player and so far nearly everything has been just winrate button
Since I saw you having already spent the modules for RR rewards at 14:54, just a friendly reminder that the rewards for completing section 3 of RR will reward you with 3 ten pulls along with a ten pull guaranteeing a three star id of season 4.
I'm a newish player (Over 2 weeks) and I was wondering If you knew when the current RR would leave. I'm currently on Section 3 and struggling quite a lot so I kinda wanna know how much time I got lol
@@Thunderdroceon The current RR line ends when PM will announce the opening of a new line. If I were to estimate, you have a good few more weeks (possibly more) to finish the current RR line
@@Thunderdroceon I wouldn't be too worried, I think. They haven't released the Season 5 roadmap, so we can't say for sure, Railway updates are usually announced in advance (both on announcement and with a trailer on yt) so you still have time even with announcement. PM also have been releasing railways after an MD update and an intervallo, at least they have for the past 2 seasons, so you'd hopefully have at least a good 1-2 month with a 1 week notice. Take your time!
Making it too easy would hurt the world building, no? Like playing a souls-like and expecting the bosses to be easy Also I like how you went into story and world building good with no examples/spoiler content. Truly the dilemma of the limbus recommender
4:16 no, simply no. that is one hell of a controversial solution and it would kinda ruin the immersion for me (personally). However I see how this could be implemented into the mirror dungeon.
Bro, Dante has more business with revivals than FGO does. Dante literally revives the sinners multiple times in a fight, and he canonically gets so fed up with it, he actually gives up reviving them, this has happened with Sinclair's canto and Heathcliff's canto. Both those cantos are where we were saved by an outside force (Demian and Cathy). Revivals as part of the thingy majig on the side that reduces speed once per day is fine.
Not to mention PM technically already resolved this issue with Chain Battles to begin with. They can continue making content be as difficult as they want and still give the player enough agency to handle fights how they want it to. 7-34 being a good example of that.
The choice to limit all characters to 12+1 (who is the obligatory amnesiac commander (he is his own character too)) characters, with all the gachas characters you can pull be alt universe versions of them is the best decision from Limbus Company. Every update mostly dive deeper into their psyche rather than stretching a blanket over many characters.
I really hope Limbus and HBR set a precedent to make altergachas mainstream, It'd be so nice to expirience a story knowing everyone gets proper focus without anyone getting left behind
I wanted to mention this in video one, but it's pretty efficient to skip some luxcavations! My general rotation is buy energy twice, manual exp dungeon, skip all three thread dungeons. You get 12 thread per dungeon run rather than 9 (before newest dungeon) so it's rather good.
Interestingly Limbus shares some similar issues with HBR, whereas players feel it's not nearly as fun to engage in the gameplay itself, rather opting to just wanting to read the story(I should mention that this is way more prevalent with the chinese community for Limbus). Chances are the difficulty with Limbus probably stems largely from it's predecessors, PM doesn't really know how to make a gacha so they made Limbus feel more like a season pass Single Player game instead of your usual gacha. This clash of older players from their previous games, which feel accustomed to a somewhat above average difficulty, and folks who are freshly new to Limbus. Oh and new player issues has been an issue throughout all of their games, and not to defend it, but it's safe to say they aren't doing it on purpose. Anyhow, good luck on your journey, Canto 7 will be fully released in like 3 days so you will have plenty of story content to chew through. PS: Yes, everyone agrees that the Xmas event was the absolute worst story in Limbus, it's just very wtevers. It's kinda important lore wise, but very wtevers in terms of the story itself.
To be fair most of project moon games aren't that much cassual focused, these games use challenging mecanics for narrative reasons, the end of part 2 of canto 7 has the most difficult boss in limbus to date, and even though it feels a bit unfair, it also is really rewarding to get to know the truth behind the story after such battle. As someone who started just when the last walpurgis natch started, I can comfortably say that limbus difficulty spikes aren't based on archetypes / team comps, but rather on enemy mechanics, Even right now I don't play a specific team, I just go with generalistic good units thatI have, instead of going for a build. That way you can focus on dealing with the battle gimmicks. Plus, having only sinking units to defeat kim is just plain bad luck.
I struggled more at Ricardo (cuz didn’t realise ish was immortal) than at her I only lost 2 members and with a team focused on Gluttony sin affinity so it wasn’t hard for me
Play lobotomy corporation first before library of ruina. If you want to fully enjoy the game. Lobotomy corporation is very fun, a bit hard but really fun. Edit: very hard***
If youre looking for a game with excellent world building I would highly recommend checking out Arknights. There's a video by Haedal called "The Most Varied World In Gaming" that you should check out to see if what's presented interests you. Just anecdotally as someone who's been playing since launch the sheer expansiveness of the world and the depth of the characters and stories within it are unmatched by any other gacha game that I've played. Especially the events Lone Trail and the recently released Babel. That's all I'll say for now, hope to see an AGR on it sometime!
Great video, its always nice to see someone falling in love with the game again, alas, you badmouthed Gregor so im afraid we of the Head will be deploying a Claw to go after you soon ^_^! (Nah but seriously good vid, excited to see your thoughts on canto vii).
Skill issue imagining not reaching canto VII RN, lol crazy imagine not getting destroyed every waking hour, by the barber and dulciane by pulling that bs bleed shield.
Seeing some other comments about it and yeah, there’s a bit of conflict of interests with 2 different types of players/fans. Even before Limbus, PM’s games were regarded as kind of the Dark Souls of their respective genres. That carries exactly the kind of expectations you’d expect. In the same way you might laugh at someone new to video games playing a FromSoft game, and wondering why it’s so hard, we laugh a little bit at “normal” or “casual” gacha gamers coming into Limbus and wondering why it’s so hard. If anything it’s mostly too easy for us. That’s the dynamic at play here. I can’t speak for PM obviously, but I don’t THINK they’re too interested in hooking the average casual gamer, the same way FromSoft isn’t. Their target audience is the people that only get more determined the harder the challenge gets. Obviously they do want new players, but they don’t want to compromise their identity, and betray the expectations of their existing fans by making things too easy or even accessible. One might think that there’s nothing at all wrong with being accessible, but again, look to Dark Souls. It’d be absurd to expect a button for “this boss is too hard, let me skip it so I can move on.” Edit: I applaud you. Claim his balls.
Thank you for the video! I think the difficulty in gacha games is an interesting topic. On one hand, insanely hard level can easily force you to drop the game, on the other hand, you can experience the feeling of accomplishment (looks like you did based on your reaction). It is also important to mention the link between gameplay and story: if the story actively mentions that the fight was really hard and you won by the smallest margin, it would be strange for the actual level to be easy, and vice versa. Maybe it can be a theme of a video on its own. Anyway, congratulations with 50k subs!
I never thought you’d do another video on limbus, but I am so glad you did and I am infinitely more glad you got to experience the rest of the story. You also took really well to the criticism and came back even harder, hell you even beat Kim with the one team that doesn’t work well (not that it doesn’t work at all, it’s just that Sinking happens to make him stronger, in contrary to most other bosses) against him.
you make a good point with a level that you do not have the correct team to beat could be a problem, but i don't think an assist item is the way to solve this issue. my friend who also mostly had sinking unites when fighting bambo kim leveled up his other unites that don't have sinking and picked overall less sinners. i get that having to use your brain at the unfun part to get to the fun part is annoying but a support item is just not the way to do it. maybe making the between chapters non required could help?
Great job on kim, often if not always when it comes to actually difficult boss fights, all you have to do is lock in and strategize bit more than usual. I took on myself a challange of beating canto 7 using only the Wild hunt heathcliff in all levels I could bring him in, and I was successful in bringing hin all the way to the end of part 2 (with part 3 releasing soon)
[2:38] Small thing to note here: During Season 3, Project Moon made the decision to NOT include voice acting for new event/interlude story chapters, since after developing two of them, they realized that getting the main cast (comprised of 14 different voice actors) as well as VAs for any side characters together _every single time_ was a lot more of a hassle than they initially expected. So, they scrapped voiced event chapters so that they could _make these events more frequent,_ effectively doubling the number of interlude chapters we get each Season. Also, many players will agree with you that Bamboo-Hatted Kim is flawed boss design considering that teams built around Sinking exist. In the past, there was actually another boss like this - "So That No One Will Cry," which punished players who brought a Burn team SUPER hard. To fix this, Project Moon removed those anti-Burn Passives from the version of STNOWC that appears in the Mirror Dungeon (where Burn stacks can get ridiculously high). They kept the passive in the main story and Thread Luxcavation though, where it isn't as punishing. In my opinion, I like it when bosses make it more difficult if you bring specific team comps, as long as it isn't _unfair_ difficulty. Kind of like what Chapter 7 is doing for Bleed teams.
Throwing in my 2 cents here to recommend Girls Frontline for having a good story, but it’s one of the only gacha stories that I’ve never wanted to skip through. What set it in for me was the whiplash in its quality from its beginning being a small and contained kancolle knockoff to opening up to its C&C like world and getting a LOTR sized story out of it. Also at this point you could probably get 80% of the roster of girls in about a week or 2 with how its been revamped.
Did you know that you can read all about enemy skills and passivs, even if you see them for first time? All you nead to do is click on them then on body part and boom you have all info what you need.
Thank you! Your first video got me hooked on the combat system, and then the story and dispenser function got me to stay. Since then, I have shown your video to several of my friends and got them hooked as well (on both the game and your channel). I will be happy to forward them this one, too.
Limbus fans watching a tutorial/review for their game for a 100th time
All Limbus fans... are destined to watch all Limbus review
Project moon sleeper agents are trained like Pavlov's dog
It is very fun to watch other people discover project moon. I would have never expected that some random Korean indie game I’ve never heard of in my life would take over my life for the next like 1.5 years and counting. Watching other people make that same realization is truly entertaining.
I mostly here just to listen to criticism so I can keep my brainrot in check
Had to watch some 20 min vid cuz no ingame tutorial😂
Bro really did lament through patches of broken wings with his compass swallowed by the sea
the multitude tightens this comment
Dont forget he jumped between two worlds of PeakMoon quality
This truly is the time of the year, a very so merry night we hold dear.
But when will his dream end?
don't forget between two world
Yeah I also beat Kim with sinking, felt like I was about to distort for a second
Begging yi sang to roll that 3rd skill before everyone's bones get claimed...
I didn't even know he worked like that 😭, I brute-forced with a sinking team
@@dark-yatothe funny thing is that if you build chain of others it’s possible
Though it’s a very nasty dps race or dodge spam
Not me who tanked it and got left 3 people with 20~ health, 2 staggered and 1 dead. I won it by winning the next clashes. This was a week ago
I ungan bunga Kim and power through it by trading
Instructions unclear. Heathcliff hit me with the bodysack instead.
You mean his sack?
One funny thing to note in regards to "If they wanted a hardcore game project moon shouldn't have made it a gacha" is that Limbus is literally only a gatcha because PM ran out of money and it was a last ditch effort to keep the studio afloat + fund the next game.(Though limbus seems to have absorbed the 'next game' into itself over time.)
This was explicitly admitted during development/the announcement.
that's a shame, really, I can see many ideas being dead just because of this game being a gacha, almost want to cry
Hope we still get Lobcorp 2 + other PM games
@@RukiaChinq nah bro 10 years is a long wait, and since KJH doesn't want to expand his team, there is little to no chance for us of seeing any new game before that
Kim says that they don't have time or resource for another game. So Limbus essentially the only thing they're focusing on developing rn. At first it was to fund their game.... but it got too big to leave out lol. I hope they're secretly still developing it tho.
@@ryominto i dont really see any ideas being dead due to it being a gacha
A small thing about the luxcavations. You don't earn only 50% rewards, it's actually 50% EXTRA rewards to make up for the extra energy used for it. So if you get two xp tickets normally, you'd get three instead.
Yes He may have worded it wrong but it still punishes you because 150% instead of 200% when you skip since you use 2 runs worth of modules!!!
I hope my wording was clear take care have a good day! (:
@neloberry9476 But for people with 500+ modules, and grind MD a lot. I don't think they mind the inefficient.
If I have that many modules, I'll gladly skip them.
@@neloberry9476 tbf THREAD LUX feels alot nicer than exp lux since the 50% is also factored into the daily bonuses
Thread lux skipping ultimately breaks dead even when considering daily breakpoints
@@neloberry9476 yeah I recommend skipping more on the threads luxcavation so that the 3 dailies also increases the amount the bonus 50% gives.
We have been summoned once again.
I heard that Gregor sland--
Suddenly, one day... my EGO... had been slandered...
He didn’t have Solemn Lament so that’s why :P
He didn’t have peak it’s excusable for now
Of course he plays a sinking team against Kim
if it works it works yknow
the sufferings never end
Hey man, if it works it works.
Seeing him actually brute force Kim was cathartic for me. SCREW YOUR GIMMICK, TAKE THIS COFFIN INSTEAD!
Season 4 new starters moment
Sinking actually benefitting Kim's negative coins? Just clash harder, dummy.
Love these updates showing how no one is hundred percent accurate and glad
The skill issue was turned into a skill opportunity, you have passed the Project Moon Fan initiation
I'm using this quote later
We Shall Watch You With Great Interests
Ah yes the infamous project moon's "vertical difficulty spike"
I'm surprised he didn't bring up ricardo first
dificult just take a generalist slash or any team and he could no dif kim or fucking use ego to win by borrow form fiend
@@duyanhbui5386 i mean that every project moon game tends to have a difficulty spike so sudden its infamous, like Lob Corp's days 20 to above or LoR's magical girls
@@m1tl4y0tlruina got nerf to the ground no fight are that hard when floor of technology existed
@@fluffhead7722 But Ricardo is easy, Ricardo is just a scripted loss.
dantehh, your back, dantehh
Complete mirror dungeon dantehh
Go back to the mirror dungeon now, danteh... Do your weekly MDH, danteh...
Do your dailies dantehhh
Danteh stop watching UA-cam videos from another world danteh
don't forget to convert your Enka Dantehh
PM actually resolved the whole issue with difficulty recently since they included a unique system called Chain Battles, where when a Sinner dies, they get replaced by a different sinner in backup. This allows for a lot of room for error and gives PM more breathing room as to how they design fights.
Their is one particular fight in Canto 7 that takes advantage of the new system and the whole fight is both incredibly difficult but very fair at the same time to players.
It’s a neat system that allows a significant more margin for error
Though I still wished the dead sinners provided a bit of sin resources for the reinforcement
Then again removing the SP cost for death as long as there is one more in the chain is already a significant help option
And not to mention it is lore accurate, you see how in most fights they always jumps as 12 people all of them fighting.
My face when attack weight +2 unbreakable coin 😮😮😮😮😮
At the same time, chain battles only exacerbate the issue of grinding even further. Sure you don’t need to have all 12 of your sinners be up to level, but it’s still more tickets you have to farm to make good enough use of the mechanic.
Hopefully Pmoon continues to add more ways to farm necessary resources, since it’s still a pretty big grind fest even with the change to leveling and improved luxcavations (changes that a new player won’t even get to feel until canto 7 anyways lmao)
@@dep7910the last part is crucial, like by the time "new" player gets to 7th canto he is by no means can't be considered a new one, however seeing how with every new canto all the previous ones are becoming winratable and speedrunnable no wonder that even at 7th canto some call themselves "new". Well, PM makes a trap for themselves by "helping" new players to catch up as fast as possible and thus making them having much less resources than all the other players
Even though I don't play gacha games I don't think it's a bad thing for a gacha game to be difficult it seems like an unnecessary limitation to the genre to keep all gacha games casual.
People don't like to struggle, to put it simply
And people who don't like, don't come back to try, and that's potential revenue that may never come back
I don’t mind difficulty it’s more not all archetypes are created equal in terms of utility and sustain
Some are better then others which equals the bigger frustration
You can’t get some of the earlier season content to be able to use their conditionals mostly the first season which isn’t totally surprising
But it can be vexing granted as long as you can get the season pass
You can usually just grind out a new archetype pick every other week which is nice
gacha game being hard is not bad thing, but if the story or progression is being gated by hard stuff it will be a problem. PM decision to gatekeep you from accessing events or .5 is kinda silly for me, its like if in arknight you just started the game reach chapter 4 and there are new anniversary event but you cannot access before finishing chapter 13
@@frido7939
This is some really hilarious call out at FGO as well which amuses me
It's a dangerous balance to make. Nobody would care if a game mode is hard and basically only for whales but if it's even hard for something as mundane as the story or event progression it would be seen as a very cynical and aggressive attempt to make the players roll for the new, shiny and obviously taylor-made character that makes the stage/event piss easy.
I know Limbus doesn't do this exactly but many people don't like seeing this kind of difficulty spike in a gacha of all things.
I gotta say Heathcliffs canto is what cemented this game's story as one of the best out there, and what got me locked in for the entire ride. As a psychologist his portrayal of an inferiority complex is extremely well made, it's not always a meek, submissive feeling, and Heathcliff just like in the books is a prime exemple of it; Honestly? It's just peak.
The mili song through violets was excellent as well which I feel like she always adds the extra kick the visuals and gameplay need to sell the level as well
I must be the reason why
@@judehanmaYou have given up your smile
and the hope inside your eyes, have been stolen
I must be the reason why
About the support system, well, there is one. You can borrow your friend's ID's for a stage if you want to. Although it is poorly explained, so not surprising it's not a common knowledge
One thing i gotta say... Limbus is much easier than it looks. Imma leave it at that.
You didn't play rr2 did you
@@quackquack8775 No😭, but rr2 isn't even mentioned in any of his videos, and its not playable either so like...
All my homies HATE rr2
Really had to cycle through those bosses again and again like dang... rr3 and rr4 were so much easier too 😂
@@eleuuuuu I didn't even have a proper team at the time, no ego's, underleveled id's, and got 101 on rr3 first attempt, rr4 is even easier...
@@quackquack8775Oh God, RR2 is pure nightmare. I like Sign of Rose boss fight but fighting so no one will cry for the fifth times really bring down my sanity
5:10 yeah alot of people are complaining about difficulty... about the game being too easy lol
Yeah man, for new players it's probably due to the complexity of game mechanics but once they get their IDs and level them up, it's smooth sailing (with some noticeable bumps).
But for us oldies, it's just a matter of time to beat the fights in the game, that's why I kept my sinners at 5 levels below the new level cap increase as I progressed through the new canto. Saves me some tickets for new IDs too.
And lets be honest. Between those that complain about it being “tOo HaRd” there’s a big ammount of them that just winrate ABSOLUTE EVERYTHING anyways.
@@profdinding6455yeah, kinda sad that i waited for half a year only to finish new canto in 3 days. The only fight i had real problems with was pequidot trio i think.
But still, the story is truly peak
I also realy like introduction of unbreakable coins to the game. Makes game play a bit less stable and more fun
0:16 Wuthering? As in… Wuthering Heights…? Catherine….
Who is Catherine?
who is catherine
Whos ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜??? I've never heard that name
I dunno guys, maybe she's someone OC? I've never heard of her before,,
Limbus is a gacha but they forget to make a gacha and made a real game
Glory to Project Moon!
I do still miss attribution
I'd rather call it a live-service game, which while better is still more of homonculus as oppossed to a real game
Yeah, but Library of Ruina exists and is actually a "real" game. (I hate this negative connotation that gacha games are not considered real games when games like Genshin Impact dunk on the majority of AAA games released nowadays in terms of love and quality given)
@@crowraterohale AAA development is kinda dead(really liked Alan Wake 2 though). Indie stuff or something around Yoko Taro's budget is still much better than Genshin, and I'm not even a real Genshin hater.
fun fact: everything in the game is doable with the base IDs and EGOs
Problem is that, it required people to read and think for more than a minute, which is very hard for most gacha players.
@@damianxi4133I mean if you get bad heads hit your gonna get sent to Jesus anyway
Sinking teams and charge teams entire gimmick is to manipulate coin power to avoid resetting 1limbillion times
@@damianxi4133Especially for PM fans. It’s said that PM fans left their literacy at Lobotomy Corporation and never went back to recover it
@@victorvirgili4447not our fault it got burried with L corps... Wait it was our fault
yesod supression fried my pixels and my ability to read
A single player game with a gacha haphazardly slapped on it. Perfect description for this game that I love (and hate at times because RNG won't give me Spider Ryoshu-).
*Did I just hear Gregor Slander-*
14:30 LIU GREGOR BEST GREGOR
Guess because he didn't have Solemn Lament E.G.O, which probably the best ego for Edgar Family Heir
NOT THE SPIDER RYOSHU 😭😭😭
I also didn't get her from last walpurg,,,,
Just a little extra info, Refraction Railways are independent of their Canto/Season, they are open until the next RR comes around.
Back when Sunshower Yi Sang was released it was busted but instead of nerfing it they basically decided to just make it take more sanity while also upping it all the way to a WAW ego
Which was even better, because now he can use he ego without sacrificing sunshower
it's good choice. the ego is indeed busted
Yi Sang, Ryōshū, and Ishmael are 3 of the most consistent sinners in the game for having strong IDs and ego, I’ve noticed.
@@RukiaChinq No... Its, totally meursault.
I think one of the biggest appeals of limbus IS the difficulty because compared to most gacha games where you pick the most broken units and win, even if you pick the strongest units in limbus you still need to actively engage with the mechanics or else you will get folded. Best example is the 7-34 boss where you literally can’t just throw all your best units at her but actually have to read her passives through the fight just like ruina
what are you talking about?? 7-38 isn't even out yet
@@ClaireCrayonhe is a prophet trust me
Nah. If you actually talking about 7-34 it's very easy to cheese with rapture. I've killed her without losses and almost without interacting with her mechanics. Instead you need to think about building and mainlining rapture stack.
@@ИльяКривошей-й5пok but playing rupture is kinda harder than playing the boss gimmick anyways
@@ИльяКривошей-й5п Nope, they're right. Rupture only works if you have the units that make its count work properly, and not everyone has those specific units even by that point. So in most cases it's more difficult(though not by too much, you just need to read to make it easier).
Hey, Psychie, a little tip for playing Limbus, is don't pull much. I'm a guy who only buys the battlepass and ends up with 260 ish pulls every Walpurgisnacht. Just refresh your energy once daily and you'll have enough to hopefully get all you need and you'll still be guaranteed at least one thing.
10:55 I get what you mean. Everyone being fundamentally good people is boring. Honestly, that’s the reason I dropped WuWa despite the generosity shown. It’s just not interesting when I know they have good intentions from beginning to end and baddies are baddies.
Writing gets too simple.
Kinda had a similar experience with Hsr and Limbus, Hsr also is not afraid to have an initially unlikeable gacha character, but said character became one of the most beloved through how his story is presented. His personality is still kinda scummy, but he has a lot of depth that people enjoy seeing.
Fr... I still play Wuwa for the gameplay but story-wise it got so abhorently disappointing, I fail to see why they had to change their original vision(CBT1) for the "harem anime" they're making with the current one, I don't think it's plain terrible just disappointing AF.
yeah, there's a reason why i only play one hoyo game but play limbus because i need that total different mechanic gameplay and story.
@@VietDang-yk1yt Nah HSR still has a lot of problems its story.
@@Merotryz yeah the characters have a tendency to ramble, i mostly play because of the cosmic horror worldbuilding
Its not about Limb-you or Limb-me, Pseychie. Its about Limb-Us!
Limb-ussy
I think hard gacha games are fine. I believe Limbus gives players more than enough help and info to beat any boss with the main sinner IDs, so I think giving powers like fully healing your team would be too overpowered. At that point, you might as well just watch UA-cam videos of the story (which is totally fine if you don't enjoy the gameplay or find it difficult).
As a longtime Project Moin fan, Limbus is... still a difficult thing. Lemme shed some light on that if someone from "outside" reads this.
Basically the "old" fanbase went through two hellishly complex and hard games and it shaped it somewhat.
With Project Moon not making of further games for several years, many yearn for limbus to hit this difficulty again, while newer players or people from the gacha communities are more used to the genre being casual.
There is a bit of a conflict in interest, and stuff like kim comes from the "old design" being implemented into a gacha.
Same goes for seeing enemy skills, passive and so on. Its the core principles of "die, learn from it, retry" that all games share.
With canto 7 and a certain fight still being unnerfed... it seems like they start ramping up difficulty in a good way atleast. And nothing in gacha games felt as good as beating up Kim, Ricardo, the epic RR bosses and 6-34 (iirc) and now the new bosses in c7
But holy fuck I agree on the new player part, all of it is... so bad. I started a second account to get through the older cantos again and see how they keep up.
On the new player thing
I wish they re-introduced early walpurgis story,Event or RR story into the game, it's weird when characters suddenly start talking about mirror dimensions in the main plot,Dante talking about the IDs, or rooms opening inside the bus, without that actually happening in the story before.
I imagine most of these gaps in the narrative are because those events are not in the game.
@@qaztim11 arent those in the theater?
When I first played LobCorp I called it "stockholm syndrome simulator," because I'd sit there for an hour trying to complete a later day, suddenly watch my employees perish for the fourth time over a minor oversight and decide to call it a night, and then be back at it again within the next 24 hours.
@@qaztim11they appear in the canto selection screen, though. It's just that they're optional content.
god C7 Boss 2 is so hard to beat since it's a race between who will die first
Speaking of barriers to enjoy a game, this is the main reason why Nikke is pretty scummy: by the time you get to chapter 15 you are capped in progress by your character levels, which cannot progress past 160 without having five SSR characters limit broken three times. You can struggle to chapter 18 because the game provides three level 200 support characters, but if you want to go any further you either have to wait several months to get the characters to level 200 or bring out your credit card.
Think the 160 wall is a bit 50/50 if ppl find it to be problematic or not, i had some luck with it, was stuck at that wall for about little less then 1 month, while i did spend on the monthly gems pass, i also did not really calculate how i should get pas that wall. but you either need to plan for the wall, something new players will find hard, or you just have to get good (Lucky with the pulls), neither is not really optimal.
Massive skill issue tbh, for one, people are beating 21-32 without passing the wall, and two, passing the wall is mostly about resource management and not luck. If you get lucky on top of spending resources well, you can pass it instalty, otherwise, you'd get stuck for a month, two at worst.
Nikke blacklisted. Thanks
Every gacha game is scummy my friend 🫡
This is straight up false tho; yes the 160 wall can be frustrating for players who never watch creator guides or learn how to manage resources, but it absolutely DOES NOT hard cap you at a certain point in the story. One of the main things you got wrong is you DON'T actually need to max limit break 5 SRR units to get past lvl 160, this is a common misunderstanding of the mechanic. Getting just ONE character to Limit Break 3 lets you continue level that character up until 200, which means you could have a team of 5 SSR's where 4 of them are level 200 and your fifth is level 199 and you're much stronger and gotten much farther in the story, but haven't 'technically' gotten past the wall yet. The real wall is getting 5 SSR's to level 200 at which point you unlock a new feature in the Synchro to spend red cores to lvl 201+.
BRO CAN READ 🗣🗣🗣
yet he didn't read additional rewards lol
i get comment is sarcasm, still funny
On the subject of assist mechanics if you are limbus friends with someone you can borrow one of their ID’s which can be a big help if you just need one more id for a team or just a generally strong id to help make it through something
welcome back to peakbus company. Canto 7 finishes this week, good luck with the content (be ready for the difficulty spike)
I think the biggest issue with Limbus' difficulty is actually the grindy issue you talked about. Keeping IDs on-level is remarkably tricky, and I still don't have a functional team of each archetype despite being a day 1 player. (Which means I'm working with all the limited event, RR, and Battle Pass resources that new players don't and can't get) The game's difficult fights expect you to have a variety of IDs built, and it is not afraid to throw things at you that are explicitly bad for certain types of ID. And it's hard enough for newer players to keep one team on-level, let alone having to build an entire second one, especially since the EXP luxcavation stages are story-locked.
Things have gotten better thanks to the new/returning player rewards, the level 45-50 EXP curve, and the Canto 7 Luxcavation releasing before the actually hard fights in the season, but it's still very much not great, and I hope they increase EXP income more somehow.
There was a couple updates about increasing the average of exp tickets so leveling would be a lot more level
In the current implementation it costs quite a lot of modules still for a team I think I burned through about 50-70 for my second team
It’s nice you get an archetype effectively for free if you fill out a season pass worth of XP
But I still feel it’s definitely a solid commitment and your probably gonna pick out 2-3 teams to really specialize into it
On a lighter note the thread up by about 20 percent was a really solid improvement
I feel like most people that quit genshin are people who are SUPER invested into gachas and are really really otaku and nerd centric (aka complete opposite of normies). I was EASILY able to get my friends, sister and girlfriend to play genshin, some still play to this day, but I showed them epic seven and reverse1999 and they couldn't care to even download them (I'm not even going to mention Nikke to them...).
why you showed them epic seven dawg, that game is hell XD, i swear playing FGO is better than Epic Seven, at least i dont smack my table after getting a final roll on a subset
I got tired of how slow everything feels. Exploring, grinding, and overly bloated dialogue. I enjoyed parts of the story but not all. I quit after the main Fontaine story and moved on to Wuthering Waves for my open world gacha. Everything feels faster to me and it has combat that's somewhat like devil may cry. But ill admit the story doesn't draw me in that much either.
Reverse1999 is super cool, I need to get back to playing it
@@midnighteclipsed2738 I showed them the cool cutscene animations. They actually really like those, but everything else about the game looked unfun to them
Genshin's popularity needs to be studied. It's really confusing to see such a game because massively popular among normies, while they show no interest towards other similar games
11:05 One of Limbus Company's primary perks in terms of gacha is that it manages to overcome the character bloat by just... restricting you to your twelve guys. That's your entire playable cast. You do not draw any new guys from the gacha - rather, you draw alternate universe versions of your 12 guys (though, of course, some of them are based on the characters you meet in the plot). Because of that, it doesn't NEED to turn plot into character advertisements, it doesn't NEED to tell you the character's entire deal; it can take its sweet time setting them up, giving you foewshadowing, and having you guessing about what the FUCK their entire deal is.
Instead of creating a bloated BREADTH of characters, Limbus gacha provides a layer of DEPTH by not only providing extra worldbuilding, but also showcasing you various facets of your ever-present 12 guys. How would they behave if they were an employee in an overworked assassin guild? How would a straightforward guy who doesn't like being sneaky fit in? Could he, perhaps, fare better in a detective guild, or as a harpooner on a ship that hunts terrifying beasts? A timid boy escaped the fate of being recruited by a violent cult leader who massacred his family - what if she succeeded? What kind of headspace would he have after being coaxed to do the deed himself? Why would a big taciturn frenchman become a rapier-wielding livestreamer? All of these examples are actually in the game, I did not make them up.
6:40 The Luxcavations for threads give more if you skip them with bonuses though. That's what I would usually do for dailies then do normal exp luxcavations.
Its still better to play normally if you have time for that, skipping only gives 1.5x rewards for 2x cost, which is clearly inefficient
It's not more, they give you the same value. With bonus on threads skipping gives you the same as doing 1 bonus lux and 1 non bonus lux. So skipping 3 times is like doing 3 bonus luxes and 3 non bonus luxes. This is less efficient on modules still because you don't have much reason to do luxes without the bonus and you did the equivalent of 3 of them, however, its completly fine if you're not min maxing and not that big of an issue. It's still 75% effiecient if I rememeber correctly.
The exp lux should be done manually anyways to get the daily bonus of killing enemies and it can be winrated most of the time.
@@haryok8940 Imo skipping THREADS is efficient. They're limited by daily bonus rewards and doing it manually at least once takes a while with any team. And they still cost 2/4 modules per run/skip unlike exp luxcavations that cost 3/6 now and are much faster (and can be winrated because winrating in focused encounters SUCKS). And 1 module is 1 hour of wait so 12 modules a day out of 24 (in case you don't refresh with lunacy) shouldn't be THAT conserning unless you die hard md slave.
HOLY MOLY you beat kim with sinking and sheer brute force of UGA BUNGA.
mah bro you are absolute chad.
You know I often talk about how easy I find this game and it really goes to show just how complicated Library is that I still think Limbus is a simple game
Threatened with skill issue and then beat the boss in the hardest way possible AND flexing a deluge nuke???
I'm out of words... I kneel...
Even though wuwa hasn't had an insane update since launch the fact that they care is enough. Taking a break and coming back is totaly justifiable when you can skip too.
About the ZZZ fake out ate the start, whilst its suposed to be a joke i think zenless can have a slight degree of a more dark/mature story
[Spoilers]
Like the quest where you have to find the last recording of the grandaughters of some old man and its the ballarina twins that became ethereals and you had to kill them both, helping him just geting solace because he couldnt go to their show where the hollow appeared, this saved his life and her grandaughters where glad he didnt go because he would have died, but the grandpa cant help but feel like he abandoned them, and can only find joy that his grandaughters were helping people scape before becoming ethereals.
Or like with quinyi where her memory is constantly wiped out by the public security, why they wipe her mind? Does she know something that the DSP want to hide?
Belle and Wise parents are dead and the person they most cherished is the responsible for the hollow to appear in old eridu
There is a hollow on the fucking moon, nothing is safe
I thought pompey was a bad guy who wanted to screw with the sons of calydons, but he was a pretty honorable guy, and see him die while pleading to caesar to stop the corruption of the lake and go after julius while ether crystals was forminh on his skin was very tragic moment.
But it seems the studio of zenless still have to bend their knees to mihoyo and dont put any type of lasting change or consequence on the characters and just focus on showing more and more fan service, like.... Come on, we already have ben bigger, we dont need anything else
the epilogue of the tour de inferno chapter hinting at the mc duo's backstory instantly got me so much more invested in seeing where the game's story goes, i loved it.
@@horace2358 yeah, i really like that they are trying to give more lore to wise and belle, the only think i found missing about the interlude was a funeral for pompey, have like a memorial with his jacket and his sword amd shield, or at least replicas, and maybe have lucius there acting all innocent and the sons of calydon trying to hold themselves to not attack him, im kinda hyped to see the other AI (the oni and ghost that are the "siblings" of fairy) and if the victoria housekeeping is going to betray us(they most probably wouldnt because they are playable amd have friend events) or the lore between anby amd soldier 11
Nah the story is really weak still.
@@Merotryz my brother in christ, the story didnt even begin yet, the game is not even one year old, chill out
3:17 that mersault youtube user reference kills me
project moon was always more focused on the community than money
you can see that back in the days of lobotomy corp, project moon was listening and interacting with the community
this reflects to limbus company
they only make you pay money to get something faster (battle pass egos being available next season ect.)
limbus is quite an easy game, you don't have to play with only meta IDs, you can play with the IDs that you enjoy playing with as long as you understand the concepts of each IDs and bosses
As someone who's a day 1 player and started with Ruina, but got my own friends into Limbus eventually, i kinda get where you're coming from with the critique about Limbus's difficulty.
That being said, i feel like enemies and mechanics themselves shoudn't be nerfed, since a huge appeal of the game is its really crunchy combat system that rewards smart team building and strategy. Instead, i think farming options and side content should be expanded so that newer players can have an easier time catching up to the current content. PM is doing great work so far with the EXP Luxcavation buff, so i don't doubt it'll happen eventually.
I do like the idea of a team revival mechanic at the cost of the EX reward, though. Seems like a good way to still keep players engaged with the story.
I hate the idea of Team Revival because it takes literally all of the weight out of fights. I really don't need 40 lunacy that much. I WANT to be stuck. I really, really want to get my ass handed to me until I'm forced to learn how to win. That's what I came here for, and that's what I expect from PM, or otherwise I would've just went to replay LOR or LC.
It does make sense given that Dante canonically returns the sinners during fights (i.e. Ricardo, K-Corp, Bloodfiends)
It can be a solution for the story-only players
@@YouCanCallMeIzif so then just dont use the revive mechanic
Maybe in future we'll get more similar mechanic, but not with exp exchange. Dante already gets speed control mechanic. (Which I never use anyway lol)
@@aure6796 No, I want it to not exist. At all. No chill. I don't care if it's a "casual" game, I didn't ask for a casual game when I started playing Limbus. If some people don't like that, whatever, I guess.
New Player experience isn't the best. You know something needs tweaking if most of the community points you to a video made by a well-established Limbus Company youtuber for a tutorial instead of the game itself. (ESGOO shoutout!!!!)
I do wish there was a few tutorial levels for about 40 lunacy each
Or a infinite punching bag that allows the player to try out different combinations to gauge how long ego takes to get out on the field and if the resonance of attacks are worthwhile
Defense offset
Counter through bleed effects
Attack weight manipulation
General nails application
Paralysis and negative coin effects
Negative coins and coin strengthening through the removal of negative coins in a clash at high SP
These things would be nice to know instead of “lol get gud nerd”
@@tylerulfmann4586 i played through a whole season without knowing what offset was. i totally feel that. the first difficulty spike that killed me canto V
In my experience, Reverse1999 is the only turn-based gacha game I've played that actually delves deep into its mechanics in their tutorial system. They even test you after the demonstrations to see if you've learned anything. If you fail to do the mechanics properly, the enemies just 1-shot you to death during the tests.
By the time you're finished with R1999's tutorial, you are already well equipped with the knowledge about the game's mechanics without needing to watch any external videos anymore.
@@crowraterohaleagree, I really liked this part, and I actually see this being implemented in Limbus somewhere in the beginning without being torn out from the lore, like training in a special room or smth.
@@ryominto the Company couldn't bother to waste additional resources to train the new hires, average city experience lololol /joke
My man got hit with the Reading Comprehension Check for Kim (he is a true pmoon enjoyer I kneel)
14:54 Just a note: Refraction railway content does not end with the season itself, its more its own thing rather than being tied to the season, the current railway (RR4) will only end once the new railway comes.
The only that is limited to the season in railway is the special effect banner and ticket you get if you complete the railway under 100 turns, the rest of the rewards do not change.
It's still a seasonal thing: it gives 10 pull with guaranteed seasonal S-rank; it has special reward for beating before season ends. But, like mirror dungeon, it changes later during season. So returning at season start players could take a chance to beat rr (it also becomes easier because of new lvl cap).
Getting filtered out by Walpurgis....
Understandable for i too would distort if i didnt pull Walpurgis night IDs but get jebaited by 1 limbillion annoucers instead hell i think someone pulled 5 pierres announcers lmao
That was Rie Himemiya during the 4th Walpurgisnact... Truly a tragic series of events
Bro really read "additional rewards" and thought it meant "half rewards" then goes on to talk about the drawbacks when it actually gives you an *additional* 50%💀
He is kind of right... Skipping EXP Lux gives you 50% more rewards, but with *double* the cost. This makes not skipping luxcavation in the long term more worth it, but honestly its just much more better to skip it and get reduced rewards anyways.
He's talking about per energy cost, you would get more out of just playing through it twice.
@@Dewclaw7787 I think a 25% reduction in rewards for skipping 2 fights worth is fair tho tbh, deffo not like - the end of the world or obscenely unfair. I actually think it's pretty generous considering you could have to super grind it like most other games make you.
@@tyranoic6618 There's actually a recent post on the Limbus Company reddit that refutes this. TLDR: time-efficiency does in-fact beat the long-term benefits, and even if time wasn't taken into consideration, the benefits of not skipping are actually only in regards to module efficiency rather than reward efficiency, as you actually get more rewards long-term by skipping.
5:34 The only reason Limbus is a gacha is because they're using the cash they get from Limbus to fund their other games
Yeah, give them around 5 more years and maybe, just maybe there'll be a new game.
@@WiidLoverlimbus is said to have 10 years so big doubt
Given that Limbus is requiring all 45 of the dev staff to maintain and update, it will be difficult for there be new PM games; unless as Kim JiHoon said, collaborating with other game studios
Welcome back!
Kim really is a pain for most players who got a lot of season 4 units cuz season 4 was just sinking with a touch of tremor and charge. This is one of the few times i have seen someone actually read the skills, practice the characters to overcome the boss
Glad to see you are giving this game another try. Also just a recommendation, clear atleast refraction railway section 3, it gives you 30 pulls + a guaranteed 000 ID from season 4
Good luck on the rest of your Limbussy adventure Manager.
I really loved the T Corp tremor support
Frogo Hong lu was also neat
Having a game treat me like I’m an adult with reading comprehension and not feeding me the information like a baby like genshin and also having characters that are built up to be likable and not just dropped off traits that are good and wow heroic instead we have a bunch of misfits, which is hella relatable, and having a story and world that fucking goes so hard that most other games wouldn’t even step a single foot in.
Remember this for new players...The power of friendship exist through support if you can't move past a level.
Add random people as a friend, they won't mind.
I'm impressed by seeing about the difficulty spike cuz most limbus players are here since day 1, most them have spent their time to farm about 80% of all ids and everyone kind of agrees that is a easy game, my tip about combat is that is all about who gets to play, make the enemy fall into how you play or it will force you to play their gimmick
Well yeah obviously if you have 80% of IDs and have been playing since day 1 the game would be very easy. I think he's mostly talking about newer players/returning players saying it's difficult.
@@Thunderdroceon i mean every new player ive seen says the game is pretty easy, im a returning player and so far nearly everything has been just winrate button
@@meraldwaves wait, can I ask what canto you're at? I'm curious
it so good to have your back my guy, i hope you had fun while on break from limbus, canto 7 is peak so far, so welcome back manager esquire
Since I saw you having already spent the modules for RR rewards at 14:54, just a friendly reminder that the rewards for completing section 3 of RR will reward you with 3 ten pulls along with a ten pull guaranteeing a three star id of season 4.
I'm a newish player (Over 2 weeks) and I was wondering If you knew when the current RR would leave. I'm currently on Section 3 and struggling quite a lot so I kinda wanna know how much time I got lol
@@Thunderdroceon The current RR line ends when PM will announce the opening of a new line. If I were to estimate, you have a good few more weeks (possibly more) to finish the current RR line
@@ToanNguyen-sd9gg thanks
@@Thunderdroceon I wouldn't be too worried, I think. They haven't released the Season 5 roadmap, so we can't say for sure, Railway updates are usually announced in advance (both on announcement and with a trailer on yt) so you still have time even with announcement. PM also have been releasing railways after an MD update and an intervallo, at least they have for the past 2 seasons, so you'd hopefully have at least a good 1-2 month with a 1 week notice. Take your time!
Also, since you're having trouble with railway, did you know Limbus has a support system?
Making it too easy would hurt the world building, no? Like playing a souls-like and expecting the bosses to be easy
Also I like how you went into story and world building good with no examples/spoiler content. Truly the dilemma of the limbus recommender
4:16 no, simply no. that is one hell of a controversial solution and it would kinda ruin the immersion for me (personally). However I see how this could be implemented into the mirror dungeon.
Wild hunt heathcliff:
technically that is how fights are fought in lore lmfao
Bro, Dante has more business with revivals than FGO does.
Dante literally revives the sinners multiple times in a fight, and he canonically gets so fed up with it, he actually gives up reviving them, this has happened with Sinclair's canto and Heathcliff's canto.
Both those cantos are where we were saved by an outside force (Demian and Cathy).
Revivals as part of the thingy majig on the side that reduces speed once per day is fine.
I really don’t understand people who argue for stuff like this. Why even play the game at that point? Just watch the story on youtube
Not to mention PM technically already resolved this issue with Chain Battles to begin with. They can continue making content be as difficult as they want and still give the player enough agency to handle fights how they want it to.
7-34 being a good example of that.
The choice to limit all characters to 12+1 (who is the obligatory amnesiac commander (he is his own character too)) characters, with all the gachas characters you can pull be alt universe versions of them is the best decision from Limbus Company. Every update mostly dive deeper into their psyche rather than stretching a blanket over many characters.
I really hope Limbus and HBR set a precedent to make altergachas mainstream, It'd be so nice to expirience a story knowing everyone gets proper focus without anyone getting left behind
3:23 Man just became project moon fan, and instantly lost ability to read, we are not beating allegations
The two types of Project Moon fan, those who can read and those who can't read.
Most can't read.
As a pmoon creator who just beat c6,
Yeah you’re not wrong about Kim. I run tremor and he was still stupidly hard.
Beating Kim with sinking
BASED
Bassicly my first Attempt at beating Kim, got my bone claim in 3 turns.
I wanted to mention this in video one, but it's pretty efficient to skip some luxcavations!
My general rotation is buy energy twice, manual exp dungeon, skip all three thread dungeons.
You get 12 thread per dungeon run rather than 9 (before newest dungeon) so it's rather good.
I knew you'd be back eventually 😭😭😭
Oh yeah, every single fight in the game is clearable with base egos and base IDs :3
Most of them quite easily
Limbus is one of these games where "sunk cost fallacy" isn't one of the reasons that kept me playing.
14:30 Because Gregor sucks
*shows GG. Damn
he really wished that he had legerdemain
Bro unironically said that Linton Gregor sucks 😭
@@WiidLover bro doesn't have solemnt lament ego, don't blame him
@@mitacestalia7532 heir is great even without lament
Interestingly Limbus shares some similar issues with HBR, whereas players feel it's not nearly as fun to engage in the gameplay itself, rather opting to just wanting to read the story(I should mention that this is way more prevalent with the chinese community for Limbus). Chances are the difficulty with Limbus probably stems largely from it's predecessors, PM doesn't really know how to make a gacha so they made Limbus feel more like a season pass Single Player game instead of your usual gacha. This clash of older players from their previous games, which feel accustomed to a somewhat above average difficulty, and folks who are freshly new to Limbus.
Oh and new player issues has been an issue throughout all of their games, and not to defend it, but it's safe to say they aren't doing it on purpose. Anyhow, good luck on your journey, Canto 7 will be fully released in like 3 days so you will have plenty of story content to chew through.
PS: Yes, everyone agrees that the Xmas event was the absolute worst story in Limbus, it's just very wtevers. It's kinda important lore wise, but very wtevers in terms of the story itself.
i guess you can say that the xmas is probably a foreshadowing too considering lore about outskirts in PM games are very little.
Danteeehhh.. Do the canto VII danteeehhh...
Dante: [MY TEAMS IS STILL TOO WEAK!! I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ID FOR THE SINNERS!!]
Limbus Company. The only Gacha game i know where not reading something results in my whole team going mad and proceed to wipe eachother out lol.
Beating Kim with a sinking team is peak
To be fair most of project moon games aren't that much cassual focused, these games use challenging mecanics for narrative reasons, the end of part 2 of canto 7 has the most difficult boss in limbus to date, and even though it feels a bit unfair, it also is really rewarding to get to know the truth behind the story after such battle. As someone who started just when the last walpurgis natch started, I can comfortably say that limbus difficulty spikes aren't based on archetypes / team comps, but rather on enemy mechanics, Even right now I don't play a specific team, I just go with generalistic good units thatI have, instead of going for a build. That way you can focus on dealing with the battle gimmicks. Plus, having only sinking units to defeat kim is just plain bad luck.
I struggled more at Ricardo (cuz didn’t realise ish was immortal) than at her I only lost 2 members and with a team focused on Gluttony sin affinity so it wasn’t hard for me
@@LTDLetsPlays sure ricardo is way harder, but the chip damage gets accumulated. Plus I still barely have Ids so I don't really have any synergy
Oh its you! I enjoyed your first Limbus video actually, so Im happy there is a part 2 now.
Limbus makes me goon, by making me actually feel something with it's heartbreaking moments. A game hasn't done that in a long time.
Play lobotomy corporation first before library of ruina. If you want to fully enjoy the game.
Lobotomy corporation is very fun, a bit hard but really fun.
Edit: very hard***
"a bit hard"
i dont beleve you
(im stuck on binah meltdown)
@@ppap9999 well, it’s hard. Hard af, i used mods to get some strong aleph lvl egos and had to cheat the last day after losing all hope.
If youre looking for a game with excellent world building I would highly recommend checking out Arknights. There's a video by Haedal called "The Most Varied World In Gaming" that you should check out to see if what's presented interests you. Just anecdotally as someone who's been playing since launch the sheer expansiveness of the world and the depth of the characters and stories within it are unmatched by any other gacha game that I've played. Especially the events Lone Trail and the recently released Babel. That's all I'll say for now, hope to see an AGR on it sometime!
“Imagine if they got DA Sinclair as their first 3 star” 🌚
No joke, that was the first 3 star I got 😂
@@casfontana7090 hey, it could've been wildhunt
@@tahraki4918 hey, it could've been solemn lament yisang
@@stephaniejanong4146 inb4 someone's first ID is bloodfiend Don with 3 pages
1:23 aw...... Yayyy!!!!! WE ARE SO BACKKK
Great video, its always nice to see someone falling in love with the game again, alas, you badmouthed Gregor so im afraid we of the Head will be deploying a Claw to go after you soon ^_^! (Nah but seriously good vid, excited to see your thoughts on canto vii).
Somebody didn't read the skill descriptions and got there bones claimed for it
Skill issue imagining not reaching canto VII RN, lol crazy imagine not getting destroyed every waking hour, by the barber and dulciane by pulling that bs bleed shield.
New player can fastly goes passed through until they met with 4-48 that's the time you know you're fucked
Seeing some other comments about it and yeah, there’s a bit of conflict of interests with 2 different types of players/fans. Even before Limbus, PM’s games were regarded as kind of the Dark Souls of their respective genres. That carries exactly the kind of expectations you’d expect. In the same way you might laugh at someone new to video games playing a FromSoft game, and wondering why it’s so hard, we laugh a little bit at “normal” or “casual” gacha gamers coming into Limbus and wondering why it’s so hard. If anything it’s mostly too easy for us. That’s the dynamic at play here. I can’t speak for PM obviously, but I don’t THINK they’re too interested in hooking the average casual gamer, the same way FromSoft isn’t. Their target audience is the people that only get more determined the harder the challenge gets. Obviously they do want new players, but they don’t want to compromise their identity, and betray the expectations of their existing fans by making things too easy or even accessible. One might think that there’s nothing at all wrong with being accessible, but again, look to Dark Souls. It’d be absurd to expect a button for “this boss is too hard, let me skip it so I can move on.”
Edit: I applaud you. Claim his balls.
Thank you for the video!
I think the difficulty in gacha games is an interesting topic. On one hand, insanely hard level can easily force you to drop the game, on the other hand, you can experience the feeling of accomplishment (looks like you did based on your reaction). It is also important to mention the link between gameplay and story: if the story actively mentions that the fight was really hard and you won by the smallest margin, it would be strange for the actual level to be easy, and vice versa.
Maybe it can be a theme of a video on its own.
Anyway, congratulations with 50k subs!
Welcome back, Manager.
I never thought you’d do another video on limbus, but I am so glad you did and I am infinitely more glad you got to experience the rest of the story. You also took really well to the criticism and came back even harder, hell you even beat Kim with the one team that doesn’t work well (not that it doesn’t work at all, it’s just that Sinking happens to make him stronger, in contrary to most other bosses) against him.
Me with my IPhone 7 trying to beat a boss before the app crashes be like:
we are so back
you make a good point with a level that you do not have the correct team to beat could be a problem, but i don't think an assist item is the way to solve this issue. my friend who also mostly had sinking unites when fighting bambo kim leveled up his other unites that don't have sinking and picked overall less sinners. i get that having to use your brain at the unfun part to get to the fun part is annoying but a support item is just not the way to do it. maybe making the between chapters non required could help?
Great job on kim, often if not always when it comes to actually difficult boss fights, all you have to do is lock in and strategize bit more than usual. I took on myself a challange of beating canto 7 using only the Wild hunt heathcliff in all levels I could bring him in, and I was successful in bringing hin all the way to the end of part 2 (with part 3 releasing soon)
[2:38] Small thing to note here: During Season 3, Project Moon made the decision to NOT include voice acting for new event/interlude story chapters, since after developing two of them, they realized that getting the main cast (comprised of 14 different voice actors) as well as VAs for any side characters together _every single time_ was a lot more of a hassle than they initially expected. So, they scrapped voiced event chapters so that they could _make these events more frequent,_ effectively doubling the number of interlude chapters we get each Season.
Also, many players will agree with you that Bamboo-Hatted Kim is flawed boss design considering that teams built around Sinking exist. In the past, there was actually another boss like this - "So That No One Will Cry," which punished players who brought a Burn team SUPER hard. To fix this, Project Moon removed those anti-Burn Passives from the version of STNOWC that appears in the Mirror Dungeon (where Burn stacks can get ridiculously high). They kept the passive in the main story and Thread Luxcavation though, where it isn't as punishing.
In my opinion, I like it when bosses make it more difficult if you bring specific team comps, as long as it isn't _unfair_ difficulty. Kind of like what Chapter 7 is doing for Bleed teams.
Throwing in my 2 cents here to recommend Girls Frontline for having a good story, but it’s one of the only gacha stories that I’ve never wanted to skip through. What set it in for me was the whiplash in its quality from its beginning being a small and contained kancolle knockoff to opening up to its C&C like world and getting a LOTR sized story out of it.
Also at this point you could probably get 80% of the roster of girls in about a week or 2 with how its been revamped.
He's returned.... amazing; he needs an Ishmael to destroy his Gregor with mindwhip
Did you know that you can read all about enemy skills and passivs, even if you see them for first time? All you nead to do is click on them then on body part and boom you have all info what you need.
A ragtag group can't defeat a depressed swordsman? solo W Corp Ryoshu makes a bang
Thank you!
Your first video got me hooked on the combat system, and then the story and dispenser function got me to stay.
Since then, I have shown your video to several of my friends and got them hooked as well (on both the game and your channel). I will be happy to forward them this one, too.
My man really spread the PM special Brainrot! (well done Soldier 🫡)