Love how ESGOO went from "I can't believe people like my videos and opinions, I am incredibly grateful" to "You can't read because you're watching an ESGOO video, so I guess I'll do it" I'm happy for him and am glad he is here to help me read pass two sentences every release
Don't worry esgoo, I'm sure Horse Gregor will be a meta-defining 4 star identity with coin power and the first identity with multiply coins. After all, any companion to such a brave and daring knight shan't go without their own sheen of brilliance!
About pequod heathcliff's missing hp conditionals, never have I felt such a high as when in the pequod trio fight in railway 3 my heathcliff survived on exactly 1 hp and proceeded to absolutely murder both that fight and gasharpoon after it
Also I know you talk about trying not to overestimate new IDs to avoid hyping them too hard, but Ishmael's segment REALLY should have been about the absolutely insane world-shattering power and consistency of Zwei Sunset-haired Saber.
If you value damage, she isn't the best tank. Over the course of a fight, she will do less damage than HarpoonCliff or Dieci Rodion because most of her skills (minus ofc the S3) lack insane numbers or any form of damage bonuses. She also often will spend a turn guarding instead of attacking. However, there's something to be said about the insane ease of use to Zweimael. She can clash well basically every turn, and can reach her peak damage without hardly any effort. When actually taking damage, I'd rather have Dieci's thick shield, but with Zweimael you can just avoid taking damage altogether.
@@sealyaggington7488 Yeah, she doesn't need all that damage when she has arguably the best defense skill in the game. That guard can help get enemies staggered, clashes way better than you'd think, can even burst reverb under the right circumstances, makes you all but stagger immune and near-instantly lets her Ward the shit out of anything you don't want to see anymore.
Zwei Ishmael is absolutely incredible. High tankiness, stagger protection, good clashing for a defensive ID and above all the best redirect in the game have made her my favorite ID in the game. Before that was Dieci Rodion (unga bunga, also fucks up the damn bull like none other). I love the aesthetic (big ass sword) and the sound design (big ass thwack). Her skill 3 hits like a freight train considering we're looking at a defensive ID. You can slap her onto any team and she'll do good work, even better when she's with either tremor IDs or Zwei Gregor and Faust. She has me very excited for non-fraud Zwei Sinclair.
Tested her on my second attempt on RR4, she goddamned tanked almost all the enemies EGOs while the other got staggered and then hit them with her godly greatsword Her S3 really hits like a high speed freight on loose tracks
Sloshing Ishmael died for not only your sins and ESGOO's sins, but the sins of every other non-base Ishmael ID. So long as Sloshmael exists and is an order of magnitude worse than every other Ishmael, all Ishmaels will be good at SOMETHING (even if Maidmael is mostly just a Sinking support passive on legs).
Her damage over the course of a fight isn't actually as high as the likes of Dieci Rodion or HarpoonCliff, but I 100% understand if you prefer the consistent clashing and ease of use of Zweimael.
Fun fact: in order to do a math essay, me and a friend made a damage calculator to figure out who can, theoretically, do the most damage. It was BL Meursault. With 233k. Yeah he gets a bit silly.
‘The strongest ID’s in history vs the strongest ID’s of today’ will be a line used in this video Edit: I was wrong. Now it’s time for my head to burst. Good day!
@Nightfallme the quote "the strongest X in history vs the strongest X of today" is directly from jujutsu kaisen, and it's a parody of the line "The strongest sorcerer of today vs the strongest sorcerer in history," in reference to Gojo vs Sukuna
I will not stand for this Edgregor slander. Reminder that he's the only ID with plus coin boost on hit rather than kill. And it's uncapped. Use Solemn Lament with +6 coin power and experience the highest euphoria this game has to offer.
Honestly, Ringsang is... a weird case. Is he strong? Yep. Is he absolutely OP? Yeah. But that attributes not to his exact kit per say, but to the fact that he's literally mechanically broken. What I mean is, PM did an oopsie by giving him a conditional on S2 that just doesn't exist with how easy it is to fulfil even outside of a bleed/mixed team. For those who don't know, the "haha I fcking hate Yi Sang" message mentioned was actually them attempting to fix it by making Ringsang's S2 conditional into... well, a *conditional*, also give his S3 a dynamic damage adjustment. But sadly, this was nipped in the bud because people got whiny about it despite the fact they wouldn't even lose anything. His S1 and S3 are strong, yeah, but not overly so. And I think if PM went through with the nerf, Ringsang would be on Lament Yi Sang's level or above right now, where tbh he actually should be.
Thankfully we don't seem to be getting an influx of IDs that are on par with Ring Yi Sang's power (at least not until they're at max strength), so him causing absurd powercreep hopefully won't be an issue.
The changes were also nipped in the bud because of the precedent it would set. Nerfs in a gacha game are a VERY touchy subject, and that's putting it lightly. Like think of the morality/legality for a moment. People pay money to roll for this unit, luck out and get the unit, motivated partially by the unit's power, and then the company can theoretically lower the unit's power, or just nerf it into the ground. Now, I don't think the proposed changes are a big deal, but it's a precedent that gacha companies in general want to avoid.
@@meeszijlstra5426this. No matter how PM slices it, fact is that they basically shot themselves in the foot with some ID kits and no one's gonna like if the ID they spent money and resources for gets nerfed. IMO the best way to tackle this is when uptie 5 rolls around, since it's once again gonna give an opportunity for weaker IDs to catch up
I run a 5 man Sinking Team, had to slot him in because Don needs to be ran in the current Canto (I literally have 0 3 000 Don Id) HE CAN OUTDAMAGE WILDHUNT HEATHCLIFF... IN FUCKING CHAIN BATTLES WHERE WILDCLIFF SHINES
@@meeszijlstra5426 From what you say, the main issue pertains to those who spent money to roll for Ringsang because he's OP (those who got him for non-gameplay reasons would, obviously, have much less issue with the nerfs). However, if we're talking about that topic, then it's important to take into consideration the other factors as well: 1) Those players would get 250 boxes as a compensation, which equals to getting any 000 ID in the game, including some of the most OP ones, entirely for free. And that's while keeping Ringsang who would still, as I say, be on a higher power level. 2) As you said, this is something that gacha games avoid. Why? Because in other games of that genre, gacha is, give or take, the *only* method of getting a character. However, limbus is different in that regard as you have an ability to get IDs outside of gacha, by using resources that you can earn in-game with little to no issue. In that regard, limbus is closer to live service games which have characters that you can buy with in-game resources (and donate for) get balance changes or even reworks. Of course, one could speak of genre differences, but the core is the same. That's why I think it would be entirely viable if PM would go through with those "nerfs" and that the player base massively overreacted, leading to us having a mechanically broken unit that should not be like that in the first place.
@PosterityIslesNews I can see that. She's tanky and hit hard. But most new players won't have Red Eyes Ryoshu until the next Walpurgist. So, Warp Ryoshu is an alternative choice until they get Red Eyes Ryoshu.
A dev really loves Heathcliff since other than having one of the most solid base IDs he has consistently been getting some of the best ones throughout the games lifespan
I'm realizing now that Wildhunt is actually the RM page in design. You start in a weaker form where you have to babysit a little, then after a couple good turns you turn into a monster that gets stronger and stronger as you get more and more kill, gaining a mass attack, and having a conditional that lowers your sanity if you can't find a target to beat up.
Wild Hunt Heathcliff is basically Mountain of Smiling Bodies if you think about it. Weak at the start, fiends off corpses, grows exponentially stronger and becomes a menace to society by the end of it.
@@davidoshare-su4hn Mountain of Smiling Bodies is from LobCorp, aka Limbus -2 (or if you're brainrotted to hell and back like I am, Item Asylum, since that's how I first heard of it). It's one of the abnormalities you can pick, being of the highest risk level (aka you would start seeing it around the middle of the game).
I love doing solo runs with wh heathcliff. Get rags and grey coat, and congrats! You have just made an immortal super soldier with several nuclear bombs on his person every other turn. You can just one shot enemies turn 2, it’s fucking ridiculous and I love it.
At some point in Dawnclair section I began reading "Waxing Prion state". That might explain why his sanity is hard to manage, his brain is ridden with prion disease, leading him to bouts of several mental diseases at the same time.
Dieci Meursault got massive buffs in Canto 7. Unbreakable coins are pretty common on some enemies, with the highest I've seen being an attack with THREE unbreakable coins on it and four total coins. Given that very specific, fact, Dieci Meursault is actually currently competitive with BLsault, as his ability to just perpetually provide shields to Rodion and Hong Lu (when he needs it) gives a lot more staying power. Atop this, he's just plain good at clashing. For literally all other content, it's no contest, BLsault is just *better*. But with the sheer volume of unavoidable damage being thrown around at points in Canto 7, Diecisault's ability to mitigate it gains a ton of value.
Except for the fact that BL Meursault can straight up negate death thanks to Swordplay of the Homeland. It might only be once per turn, but he can absolutely refuse to die if need-be so long as you have a Pride-based team.
@@lordpumpkinhead265 BLsault can for himself. Diecisault can for himself, hong lu, and rodion, letting the three of them throw themselves at unbreakable coins with, in two cases reckless abandon, and in hong lu's case, better results than normal.
And important reminder for newbies, most of the IDs shown here can be sharded for free at any time Ring Yi Sang: always available W Corp Don: always available W Corp Ryoshu: always available Blade Lineage Meursault: always available Dieci Hong Lu: always available Captain Ishmael: always available Dieci Rodion: always available Cinq Sinclair: always available N Corp Sinclair: always available Molar Outis: always available Regret Faust, Red Eyes Ryoshu, and Dawn Office Sinclair are only available during Walpurgisnacht, but just farming up 400 of their shards and waiting for the inevitable WP event will guarantee that you get them this season (also shard Regret Meursault, it's an ego, but still fucking insane) Multicrack Faust and Wild Hunt Heathcliff sadly can't be sharded until next season, but can still be pulled/sparked on their respective sinner banners if you're dedicated (that's how I got Captain Ishmael)
Pulling on Heathcliff's banner would be the smart move since even if you don't get Wild Hunt, there are MANY other good Heathcliff 000 IDs you could get. Faust really doesn't have many good IDs to aim for, so using your resources in hopes of getting one specific 000 unit amidst a lot of mediocre ones isn't great odds.
I'm a relatively new player (Initially played for only few hours at anniversary but returned last week) and I was wondering if it would be worth it to shard Captain Ishmael, Harpoon Heathcliff and Blind obsession. Literally for no other reason other than they all look cool to me. I'd still get Fluid Sack for Faust first since I've heard its a very good ego but I wasn't sure if I'd be wasting my shards on getting those above. I just beat Canto IV if that means anything.
@@Thunderdroceon Harpoon Heathcliff is a very good ID to shard for, and is one of his best IDs. Captain Ishmael is difficult to use due to her unique SP loss mechanic. Every time an ally kills something above her current level, she loses 10 SP. This doesn't make her a bad ID, in fact she's more than capable of dealing with many things, but she isn't the easiest to use and does require a bit more attention than the standard ID. Blind Obsession is a VERY good EGO, and will help significantly when running Railway 4 if you get there before it closes (which you should be able to since new Railways usually open about halfway through a season.)
9:04 "And if you ever reach 0 SP or below you're back to being a boy failure once again being plagued with memories of those good times in highschool where you hit your peak" ...I didn't need a day full of regret that I'm still alive, thank you.
I'll always advocate for Maid Ryoshu being the most solid ID. Ever since it's release it has been my go to Ryoshu ID against Abnormalities due to how her Evasion works. It also unironically helped me understand how Evasion works, how you gotta point at the first skill used in multi-enemy battles and how it completely nullifies certain enemy skills that'd just kill you by simply "not clashing". Using her Evasion on the first turn to essetially skip it and then restart it with max SP and 2 Skill slots is fantastic and it probably makes her the best "Soloist" and the most safe option for fighting thinhs such as Walpurgisnacht events (Altought she can't 100% the first one). I do hear people say she doesn't deal that much dmg compared to W.Corp or Spider, which makes sense for a self-sustaining poise ID, imagine she had a D.D.E.R. with a natural 1.2x Dmg mult., it'd be pretty dumb. Regardless, she still has the easiest conditional AoE Skill and an S3 that clashes well and hits for not so much lower than D.D.E.R. & Serious Skullbuster. I'll also leave a honorable mention for BL Yi Sang for being a good ID even before Kim Mersault was a thing and 7Faust for having one of the most consistent S2 I ever tried and also being really funny after you grab Thunderbranch++ on MD.
Check again. Look how the legs bend more like horse legs than wolf legs, and how the neck is pointed upward like a horse rather than forward or downwards like a wolf. So yeah, doggo-ish but still honse.
@@kairo3201 It's weird, it's like some kind of weird hybrid. But once again it DOES have the claws, which you can see especially in lighter environments.
• While I haven't finished watching the video (duh) I just want to say that the three best ways to tell if an ID is going to be busted is 1: ridiculous coin amounts 2: coin reuse and 3: attack weight (Think about every overpowered/most strong IDs in the game and they all have at least one of these three descriptions.) (Also, every Walpurgisnacht 3 star except Red Eyes Ryoshu [and she makes that up with roll power] fills these conditions, hmm....) Edit: now that I've watched more of the video, I'd like to add one more condition: the ability to take damage AND benefit with something from taking that damage. Dieci Rodya gets blunt damage up, Queecliff gets 1% more damage up to 99%, BL Meur makes Claim Their Bones into Claim Their Entire Skeletons. (Zweishmael might actually dodge all four conditions, her only real thing is that she is incredibly tanky while also having great damage/rolls extremely easily)
You forgot about having ridiculously high damage bonus conditionals. That's why Zweimael's s3 is strong (though I always like to remind people that she tends to do less damage over the course of a fight than Dieci and HarpoonCliff).
@@sealyaggington7488 • Yeah, ESGOO mentioned that too and its definitely there on the strong IDs too, practically all of them have some way to get extra damage to be honest
I think as time goes on "strong/uniquely useful defense skills" might get added to the list. I know that, at the very least, Zweishmael and Huntkliff have playstyles that almost always revolve around their Power Guard/Clash Counter and the buffs it gives them.
This is unacceptable Zwei Ishmael slander. I will not stand for this. (Brought to you by the Zwei Ishmael solo gang) (Also love the video, see you in canto 7!)
I love being a new player and not fully understanding how the game works, makes it fun to find out I rolled the best character in the game in my first 10 pull. We love Ring Yi Sang out in these streets
Back when I started playing this game, I saw you call out “charge bias”. It entertained me greatly. So I saved for Don and her sparkly pole. To this day, I enjoy my warp team. The next season might comparatively crush her into ruby dust. But she will be the last to fall, and pole in hand she won't go down without a fight!
I literally just started playing limbus, rolled for love on red eyes ryoshu, 0 clue she was good, and got her and multicrack faust, only to then find out they are 2 of the very best Id's in the game, but this video helped me really understand why, and thats pretty cool Also as a newbie i think it would be really cool if Esgoo did one of these for 00 id's, since they are way easier to obtain/stumble into
Yeah people sleep on 00s. They're nowhere near as flashy/silly as the 000s, but they're easy to invest in and help those 000s get to their ridiculous max potential. Hell, some 00s are just as if not sometimes more foundational to their archetypes than similar 000s (Seven Heathcliff/Lantern Don for Rupture, BL Don for the BL team, Ring Outis for bleed and MidSault for Envy Resonance come to mind). Even some of the less essential ones still have some neat traits which make them fun to use (West ZweiClair can keep a team grounded with his EGOs, Rosespanner Mersault and Yurodivy Ryoshu are fun tremor supports, W Faust, W Hong Lu and Crack Heathcliff are great charge supports, and KK Gregor can do some funny debuffs/heal the team with Garden of Thorns if you're feeling extra silly). Unless you're intentionally sifting through the garbage and investing in, like, Sloshmael, Chef Greg, old Zweiclair or the like, you could probably carry a team of 00s through every bit of content the game has to offer, which is one of my favorite parts about Limbus. You don't _need_ to have the best stuff in the game to see everything the game has to offer, but that stuff's there if you wanna flex/have a power trip.
@@aegisScaleIm thinking of doing a sinking MD run with Dieci Yi Sang instead of Solemn Lament/Spicebush just because I wanna have some fun doing synergy with my other Dieci IDs and im tired of SL always stealing the spotlight. Hell, thats not even his best 00 ID and it still has a use case, however niche it may be, and thats the best part
Gregor is one of 4 (Now 3) sinners with 1 id short… so he’s definitely getting something this season My main worry is he gets 2 starred cus please he needs some id treatment like Devyat Rodya, Maidenless Heathcliff and Zwei Ishy. We need a 2 pager for Gregor
After being away from limbus company for a decent amount of time, this vid was very interesting to me because it did explain new mechanics that my overwhelmed brain just couldn’t comprehend on first read through (Also if u want precise details, Yi sang is my fav character so canto IV is where i started to lose steam after its story completely released. What got me back into limbus was Solemn lament Yi sang… i am very predictable in this and most of my teams will have a Yi sang as an active participant. On another note even when i wasnt playing i was paying attention to the story, Glory be PM and all that. Have to hold my sleeper agent title somehow)
I don't know why you didn't talk about G corp Gregor, he's clearly one of the best in the game! I mean, every bug spits out 300 lunacy, and that guy is like 80% bug, so you can just milk him for 240 lunacy on demand. He can't be killed either, so you can just keep hitting him until lunacy falls out again and again. Crackcliff wishes he had that kind of resource gain for the team.
Butler Ryoshu might not be the strongest ID but it is still my most used one, limbus is very versatile and unless you specifically go out of your way to only use the weakest id's you can use whatever you want and succeed.
RCliff is surprisingly good in RR4 (Ofc, it's a nobrainer to fun Wildhunt there), but RCliff works well. A lot of the good buffs in RR4 is after the 6th Slot; So you can stuff RCliff into the speed slot, open with a fucking Quick Supression on an annoying unit you want off the battle. Then just kinda let him die, or use a Kings of Bind and just again let him die and be replaced. Quick Suppression should be able to 1 shot any ID in the game (Unless they're really tanky and resistant to pierce); It's how I dealt with that NClair that usually starts with a Self Destructing Purge, an unopposed Quick Suppression.
@@RelentlessStabbingGoBrrr... yes, that's the point you replace RCliff with another unit; It's taking advantage of the Chain Battle system You don't make him stick for 5 turns; He takes one unit out, maybe 2 or 3, then you make him die
@@RelentlessStabbingGoBrrr ... Then why are we arguing about this? You clearly don't play RR There's a slot that bumps a sinner's speed up, you put RCorp Heathcliff there; His Quick Supression will almost always kill a sinner. Him being fragile is also an upside, because in the buffs after slot 6 is alway going to be better. His huge upside is that RCliff, unlike WildCliff needs no setup; It's why RCliff is still used in Low Turn Count runs in RR4. As an example, in part 2 of RR4 there's a NSinclair of loves doing S3 right off rip; So a good answer to this is burst him down with a Quick Suppression.
"the hard work of queueing a defense skill every once in a while which no other sinner does" This is how you know ESGOO hasn't actually used Zwei Ish that much yet.
Funny enough, my go-to strat with Dieci Rodion is to discard S3 and gain Insight 3 as soon as possible and then do the Eternal Discard Trick (like you mentioned with Dieci Hong Lu), because Insight 3 makes her S1 actually useable AND, while she loses out on her shield, she instead has the fun feature where Insight 3 allows her to randomly lose the entirety of one random negative event... EVERY. SINGLE. TURN. Enemy applied 25-11 Bleeding? The very next turn, it's gone already. Rupture? Gone. Sinking? Gone. Offense Level Down, Defense Level Down, Fragile, Bind? I sleep. Some effects are too persistent for that passive, but those are unique effects that would literally break a bossfight if Dieci Rodion simply no-sold them (like being Sewing Target for the Barber, or being sucked by a rose against Sign Of Roses). Makes a lot of bossfights a lot less frustrating, since I can trust at least one of my Sinners to be squeaky clean of any debuffs they might apply and also lets me use her to facetank stuff. Oh, and facetanking attacks also gives her DMG+ next turn, which is a nice bonus.
I love how my hype rabbit gremlin (why is the ammo refill uptie 4..) and problematic reindeer child (NO DON'T KILL YOUR TE- Not again) got mentioned as great Ids 😊.
I have a bit of a better strategy for Dieci Hong Lu. If in the encounter you don't need blunt dmg, and you can get to 3 gloom resonance, you can activate his passive, remove defence skill, which should have either s1 or s2, and then hit an enemy with +30% dmg up. Although his s3 also can help with sanity, so you really do need to consider if you should discard your s3 always when at 3 gloom resonance. And that is one of the reasons why Dieci Lu is my favorite id of all time. He is super fun, he is strong and yet still has nuances to suit him better for a ton of fights Also, waiting for "Cinq Meursault: Opportunity cost via balancing" vid, cuz he can damn well roll 30 on his s3 if he hits one skill slot for long enough
@@noishfanboy1141 bloodied hand take a WHILE to ramp up unless you solo with him (which leads to more slots, more skills uses, one bloodied hand) His archetype is being a tank, he has an insane health pool and one stagger threshold, he also has a passive that makes him immortal for a turn if he took lethal damage (so the main idea is to get the stagger threshold removed early). As a bloodfiend id, he's a bloodfeast generator due to his insane self bleed. Using skill 1 and 2 allows him to get bloodied hand and ailing heart (shield gives 3 ailing heart). The more ailing heart the more life steal he has on hit but also makes his Sp healing passive work less. Only After getting 30 bloodied hand do you usually want to use that skill 3 (even better if he's not at full hp for the exra damage buff) because it makes it deal, SHIT tons of damage while also healing gregor practically to max.
This is a perfect release day for this video since season 5 will start in just a few hours. It also means that this vid will get out dated very quickly.
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haha boys love mersaul
That’s it, now no one gets a treat. I hope you’re happy.
@@therealESGOONOOOOOOO
i love my girls love (outis/faust) but the BL is so strong (yisang/sinclair)
@@SleeplessBrazilLimboR.I.B
treat?
ESGOO releasing his videos during Limbus maintenance is some crazy strats
Bro, how did u comment a word in blue?
@@ElKartKidi guess it kinda works like tiktok where it randomly chooses the most common keyword amongst comments like limbus for example
They're turning UA-cam into Tiktok again...
@lhobang is that some new update for pc UA-cam? I don't see anything on mobile
@@tahraki4918 you haven't updated your app yet
Love how ESGOO went from "I can't believe people like my videos and opinions, I am incredibly grateful" to "You can't read because you're watching an ESGOO video, so I guess I'll do it"
I'm happy for him and am glad he is here to help me read pass two sentences every release
He's Limbus Jynxzi
The character arc is crazy
Can’t let them get too close now
Gregor found dead in an Applebees back alley
He’ll walk it off :)
(The Applebees is a very low blow though :( )
He got thrown out of an Applebee's though, so it's not a total humiliation.
*Apple* bees
You better not
Dint know Applebees used horse meat(and roach)
Of course its a fucking *Applebees*
Can’t wait for a few months when Don’s story ID drops and places 30 counts of unique bleed on her skill 7
500 unbreakable dodge coins
Unclashable clash: You will do damage even if coin loss, and regain sanity equal to sanity gained by enemy, if abnormality, gains 25 SP
@@Jyxero So, funny thing about that unbreakable clash...
@@SlayHER-21
Yay! I won that hard clash! Now why does the enemy have red coins?
STAGGERED
@@nightranger9555 Man, I sure am glad this unit is getting to use the other skills in the chain, it's not like-
STAGGER - STAGGER x2
i like how edgar gregor shows up in the video's description... he's trying his best to not feel left out
But knowing Edgar Heir Gregor is also just walking lethargy and depression...
Don't worry esgoo, I'm sure Horse Gregor will be a meta-defining 4 star identity with coin power and the first identity with multiply coins. After all, any companion to such a brave and daring knight shan't go without their own sheen of brilliance!
Skill 3 is how hungry and he eats the enemy one shotting everything
Grorse
About pequod heathcliff's missing hp conditionals, never have I felt such a high as when in the pequod trio fight in railway 3 my heathcliff survived on exactly 1 hp and proceeded to absolutely murder both that fight and gasharpoon after it
Pequod Heath decided that now was the time to lock the fuck in and he did.
I was lost on a mountain when I met a hiker and asked where we were.. he said “esgoo” and I knew that we were at the peak.....
bro is living the cinema
Also I know you talk about trying not to overestimate new IDs to avoid hyping them too hard, but Ishmael's segment REALLY should have been about the absolutely insane world-shattering power and consistency of Zwei Sunset-haired Saber.
If you value damage, she isn't the best tank. Over the course of a fight, she will do less damage than HarpoonCliff or Dieci Rodion because most of her skills (minus ofc the S3) lack insane numbers or any form of damage bonuses. She also often will spend a turn guarding instead of attacking.
However, there's something to be said about the insane ease of use to Zweimael. She can clash well basically every turn, and can reach her peak damage without hardly any effort. When actually taking damage, I'd rather have Dieci's thick shield, but with Zweimael you can just avoid taking damage altogether.
@@sealyaggington7488She can have defense up herself to 90 total, it's like Vergilius, that nuts
@@sealyaggington7488 Yeah, she doesn't need all that damage when she has arguably the best defense skill in the game. That guard can help get enemies staggered, clashes way better than you'd think, can even burst reverb under the right circumstances, makes you all but stagger immune and near-instantly lets her Ward the shit out of anything you don't want to see anymore.
0:55 Bait used to be belie- *HOLY SHIT IS THAT IRON SKIN POTION?!*
*TERRARIA MENTIONED!!!*
Terraria's About To Become The New Project Moon Sleeper Agent
@simoneprime7620 me when i download a funny mod for morw npcs and a red eyed white hair woman who calls me "Manager" named Angela comes to town
Danteh...go get 5 shark fin danteh...we need to craft a gun danteh....
Danteh.... build the hellevator, Danteh.....
Zwei Ishmael is absolutely incredible. High tankiness, stagger protection, good clashing for a defensive ID and above all the best redirect in the game have made her my favorite ID in the game. Before that was Dieci Rodion (unga bunga, also fucks up the damn bull like none other).
I love the aesthetic (big ass sword) and the sound design (big ass thwack). Her skill 3 hits like a freight train considering we're looking at a defensive ID. You can slap her onto any team and she'll do good work, even better when she's with either tremor IDs or Zwei Gregor and Faust.
She has me very excited for non-fraud Zwei Sinclair.
Tested her on my second attempt on RR4, she goddamned tanked almost all the enemies EGOs while the other got staggered and then hit them with her godly greatsword
Her S3 really hits like a high speed freight on loose tracks
Sloshing Ishmael died for not only your sins and ESGOO's sins, but the sins of every other non-base Ishmael ID. So long as Sloshmael exists and is an order of magnitude worse than every other Ishmael, all Ishmaels will be good at SOMETHING (even if Maidmael is mostly just a Sinking support passive on legs).
Her damage over the course of a fight isn't actually as high as the likes of Dieci Rodion or HarpoonCliff, but I 100% understand if you prefer the consistent clashing and ease of use of Zweimael.
cant believe he missed this one
@@alexanderkosten7611 she crawled so every other ishmael could run
Dieci Hong Lu: My grandpa's deck has no pathetic skills Outis
Sinclair will never escape the creepy white woman
this canto is gonna be when gregor gets a good ID (extreme copium)
Gregor fans like a cockroach, they keep getting up when beat. (Hope yall get a good ID)
Linton Gregor ❤
Keep coping, one day it will be real (prob, just look at farmwatch outis!)
Ring gregor
Wth is he talking about gregor has ID's
got my blood drawn today and now esgoo is here to talk abt stuff before dons canto vampire stuff lets go bloodloss during blood season
WHAT
I ALSO GOT BLOODWORK DONE TODAY OH MY GOD. NO WAY.
the bloodfiends are coming
Lets All Be Bloodfiends Together
My diabetes appointment was canceled?? I _was_ going to have blood drawn at that appointment...
Donating blood this weekend. Bloodfiends????????
yall are bloodbags at best dont lie
32:06 I'm glad you held your tongue.
WMEUR SWEEP, AND YOU KNOW IT BABYYYYYY
Fun fact: in order to do a math essay, me and a friend made a damage calculator to figure out who can, theoretically, do the most damage.
It was BL Meursault. With 233k.
Yeah he gets a bit silly.
If we factor in glitches, he can do *FAR* above 233k. His maximum recorded damage (through the use of glitches) was 360 *MILLION.*
Tax collector Don: *giggles greedily *
@@lordpumpkinhead265 WOW ! What did Heath roll to break the damage scale then ?!
@@lordpumpkinhead265 technically the same bugs allow someone like w ryoshu break interger limit
pleaaase tell me more :P
‘The strongest ID’s in history vs the strongest ID’s of today’ will be a line used in this video
Edit: I was wrong. Now it’s time for my head to burst. Good day!
The cultural impact of jjk really is insane…
@@cherryblossombvlleti dont see how it jjk
@Nightfallme the quote "the strongest X in history vs the strongest X of today" is directly from jujutsu kaisen, and it's a parody of the line "The strongest sorcerer of today vs the strongest sorcerer in history," in reference to Gojo vs Sukuna
@@cherryblossombvllet It's so meme-able, "Nah, I'd win" has spread roots deep
Rabbit healthcliff vs ring yi sang fr
Incredible to upload this video right before the release of season 5
Enough ranking their strength.... How do they taste?
Nah...
Erlking tastes like purple stink clouds, Spicebush tastes like the coldest mints + the hottest hot sauce
@@RukiaChinq "Dude, you smell like unfettered áss."
"BRO, it's called AURA."
@@TheUnicornChicken this is a real leaked interaction between wild hunt heathcliff and Ishmael
Suncliff tastes like rock
I'm certain that W corp Don is gonna get replaced very quickly with Canto 7 rolling around
cant wait for bloodfeind don (she will be real and i cannot be convinced otherwise)
Blood fiend don is an ego, she can't hurt you
Blood fiend don:
BF Don gaining clotted blood (unique charge) be like:
W Don is never gonna be useless, 5 coin rip space
No she is not even if there was a blood fiend Don ID, I highly doubt Bloodfiend Don has charge in her kit.
this video will be outdated in 3 hours
3 hours? Bro, Blockshmael isn't on the video(for what I've checked) when She's the new soloing queen.
@@franconunez925 she's in it.
@@shmeegis466 alright, I should have seen the entire video instead of checking from timeline.
@@franconunez925 Don't worry we are just expanding our repertoire. Soon enough we won't even be able to process words!
@@franconunez925 ur good lowk i coulda also said that he also thought knightmael was worse than ahabmael but that woulda required me to give a shit
I will not stand for this Edgregor slander. Reminder that he's the only ID with plus coin boost on hit rather than kill. And it's uncapped. Use Solemn Lament with +6 coin power and experience the highest euphoria this game has to offer.
Realistically you'll literally never hit the +6 plus coin boost on anything but a mirror dungeon solo, though.
@@funninoriginal6054 And I'm still riding that high.
Honestly, Ringsang is... a weird case. Is he strong? Yep. Is he absolutely OP? Yeah. But that attributes not to his exact kit per say, but to the fact that he's literally mechanically broken.
What I mean is, PM did an oopsie by giving him a conditional on S2 that just doesn't exist with how easy it is to fulfil even outside of a bleed/mixed team. For those who don't know, the "haha I fcking hate Yi Sang" message mentioned was actually them attempting to fix it by making Ringsang's S2 conditional into... well, a *conditional*, also give his S3 a dynamic damage adjustment. But sadly, this was nipped in the bud because people got whiny about it despite the fact they wouldn't even lose anything.
His S1 and S3 are strong, yeah, but not overly so. And I think if PM went through with the nerf, Ringsang would be on Lament Yi Sang's level or above right now, where tbh he actually should be.
Thankfully we don't seem to be getting an influx of IDs that are on par with Ring Yi Sang's power (at least not until they're at max strength), so him causing absurd powercreep hopefully won't be an issue.
The changes were also nipped in the bud because of the precedent it would set. Nerfs in a gacha game are a VERY touchy subject, and that's putting it lightly. Like think of the morality/legality for a moment. People pay money to roll for this unit, luck out and get the unit, motivated partially by the unit's power, and then the company can theoretically lower the unit's power, or just nerf it into the ground.
Now, I don't think the proposed changes are a big deal, but it's a precedent that gacha companies in general want to avoid.
@@meeszijlstra5426this. No matter how PM slices it, fact is that they basically shot themselves in the foot with some ID kits and no one's gonna like if the ID they spent money and resources for gets nerfed.
IMO the best way to tackle this is when uptie 5 rolls around, since it's once again gonna give an opportunity for weaker IDs to catch up
I run a 5 man Sinking Team, had to slot him in because Don needs to be ran in the current Canto (I literally have 0 3 000 Don Id)
HE CAN OUTDAMAGE WILDHUNT HEATHCLIFF... IN FUCKING CHAIN BATTLES WHERE WILDCLIFF SHINES
@@meeszijlstra5426 From what you say, the main issue pertains to those who spent money to roll for Ringsang because he's OP (those who got him for non-gameplay reasons would, obviously, have much less issue with the nerfs). However, if we're talking about that topic, then it's important to take into consideration the other factors as well:
1) Those players would get 250 boxes as a compensation, which equals to getting any 000 ID in the game, including some of the most OP ones, entirely for free. And that's while keeping Ringsang who would still, as I say, be on a higher power level.
2) As you said, this is something that gacha games avoid. Why? Because in other games of that genre, gacha is, give or take, the *only* method of getting a character. However, limbus is different in that regard as you have an ability to get IDs outside of gacha, by using resources that you can earn in-game with little to no issue. In that regard, limbus is closer to live service games which have characters that you can buy with in-game resources (and donate for) get balance changes or even reworks. Of course, one could speak of genre differences, but the core is the same.
That's why I think it would be entirely viable if PM would go through with those "nerfs" and that the player base massively overreacted, leading to us having a mechanically broken unit that should not be like that in the first place.
you couldn't have picked a better time to upload this for the pm fans trapped in a hurricane
Warp Ryoshu is for slash weak enemies.
Red Eyes Ryoshu is for blunt weak enemies. That's how I see them.
yeah they're too close to choose a definite winner, but re ryoshu is a walp id so warp ryoshu is better for 80% of people
@PosterityIslesNews I can see that. She's tanky and hit hard.
But most new players won't have Red Eyes Ryoshu until the next Walpurgist. So, Warp Ryoshu is an alternative choice until they get Red Eyes Ryoshu.
Red eyes has a better s1 so I prefer that over warp
petition to rename "skullbuster" to "silly skullbuster"
A dev really loves Heathcliff since other than having one of the most solid base IDs he has consistently been getting some of the best ones throughout the games lifespan
I'm realizing now that Wildhunt is actually the RM page in design. You start in a weaker form where you have to babysit a little, then after a couple good turns you turn into a monster that gets stronger and stronger as you get more and more kill, gaining a mass attack, and having a conditional that lowers your sanity if you can't find a target to beat up.
Wild Hunt Heathcliff is basically Mountain of Smiling Bodies if you think about it. Weak at the start, fiends off corpses, grows exponentially stronger and becomes a menace to society by the end of it.
@@lordpumpkinhead265 what reference is that, i really want to know
@@davidoshare-su4hn Mountain of Smiling Bodies is from LobCorp, aka Limbus -2 (or if you're brainrotted to hell and back like I am, Item Asylum, since that's how I first heard of it). It's one of the abnormalities you can pick, being of the highest risk level (aka you would start seeing it around the middle of the game).
@@davidoshare-su4hn Lobotomy Corp. PM's first game
@@davidoshare-su4hn uhm, lobotomy corporation and library of ruina, theyre the prequels to limbus, make sure to play them, amazing games
I love doing solo runs with wh heathcliff. Get rags and grey coat, and congrats! You have just made an immortal super soldier with several nuclear bombs on his person every other turn. You can just one shot enemies turn 2, it’s fucking ridiculous and I love it.
27:54 "you absolutely cannot go wrong with any of her three stars"
The Reindeer Ishmael funny s3 since launch:⚡⚡⚡⚡🐇💀
"Wait how much charge did she have" (random sinner death noise)
im going to claim your bones
Kim vs Erlking please?
day whatever of esgoo refusing to admit that twinhooks pirate gregor is a pretty solid id
45:19 Oh man, that's some crazy foreshadowing..
At some point in Dawnclair section I began reading "Waxing Prion state". That might explain why his sanity is hard to manage, his brain is ridden with prion disease, leading him to bouts of several mental diseases at the same time.
he has 97 mental illnesses and is banned from most public spaces 💔💔
Dieci Meursault got massive buffs in Canto 7. Unbreakable coins are pretty common on some enemies, with the highest I've seen being an attack with THREE unbreakable coins on it and four total coins. Given that very specific, fact, Dieci Meursault is actually currently competitive with BLsault, as his ability to just perpetually provide shields to Rodion and Hong Lu (when he needs it) gives a lot more staying power. Atop this, he's just plain good at clashing.
For literally all other content, it's no contest, BLsault is just *better*. But with the sheer volume of unavoidable damage being thrown around at points in Canto 7, Diecisault's ability to mitigate it gains a ton of value.
Except for the fact that BL Meursault can straight up negate death thanks to Swordplay of the Homeland. It might only be once per turn, but he can absolutely refuse to die if need-be so long as you have a Pride-based team.
@@lordpumpkinhead265 BLsault can for himself. Diecisault can for himself, hong lu, and rodion, letting the three of them throw themselves at unbreakable coins with, in two cases reckless abandon, and in hong lu's case, better results than normal.
Leaving a comment to save this info for later
And important reminder for newbies, most of the IDs shown here can be sharded for free at any time
Ring Yi Sang: always available
W Corp Don: always available
W Corp Ryoshu: always available
Blade Lineage Meursault: always available
Dieci Hong Lu: always available
Captain Ishmael: always available
Dieci Rodion: always available
Cinq Sinclair: always available
N Corp Sinclair: always available
Molar Outis: always available
Regret Faust, Red Eyes Ryoshu, and Dawn Office Sinclair are only available during Walpurgisnacht, but just farming up 400 of their shards and waiting for the inevitable WP event will guarantee that you get them this season (also shard Regret Meursault, it's an ego, but still fucking insane)
Multicrack Faust and Wild Hunt Heathcliff sadly can't be sharded until next season, but can still be pulled/sparked on their respective sinner banners if you're dedicated (that's how I got Captain Ishmael)
Pulling on Heathcliff's banner would be the smart move since even if you don't get Wild Hunt, there are MANY other good Heathcliff 000 IDs you could get. Faust really doesn't have many good IDs to aim for, so using your resources in hopes of getting one specific 000 unit amidst a lot of mediocre ones isn't great odds.
I'm a relatively new player (Initially played for only few hours at anniversary but returned last week) and I was wondering if it would be worth it to shard Captain Ishmael, Harpoon Heathcliff and Blind obsession. Literally for no other reason other than they all look cool to me.
I'd still get Fluid Sack for Faust first since I've heard its a very good ego but I wasn't sure if I'd be wasting my shards on getting those above. I just beat Canto IV if that means anything.
@@Thunderdroceon Harpoon Heathcliff is a very good ID to shard for, and is one of his best IDs. Captain Ishmael is difficult to use due to her unique SP loss mechanic. Every time an ally kills something above her current level, she loses 10 SP. This doesn't make her a bad ID, in fact she's more than capable of dealing with many things, but she isn't the easiest to use and does require a bit more attention than the standard ID. Blind Obsession is a VERY good EGO, and will help significantly when running Railway 4 if you get there before it closes (which you should be able to since new Railways usually open about halfway through a season.)
@@lordpumpkinhead265 Thanks a ton! I'll definitely be getting them then once I'm able to.
can you shard the ids that come out on their walpurgis?
Phillipclair getting buffed is simply because phillip's just my goat like that
And Jihoon clearly agrees
DON CANTO SOON?? ESGOO UPLOAD TO PREPARE ME???? I LOVE THE CITY I LIVE IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9:04 "And if you ever reach 0 SP or below you're back to being a boy failure once again being plagued with memories of those good times in highschool where you hit your peak" ...I didn't need a day full of regret that I'm still alive, thank you.
I'll always advocate for Maid Ryoshu being the most solid ID.
Ever since it's release it has been my go to Ryoshu ID against Abnormalities due to how her Evasion works. It also unironically helped me understand how Evasion works, how you gotta point at the first skill used in multi-enemy battles and how it completely nullifies certain enemy skills that'd just kill you by simply "not clashing".
Using her Evasion on the first turn to essetially skip it and then restart it with max SP and 2 Skill slots is fantastic and it probably makes her the best "Soloist" and the most safe option for fighting thinhs such as Walpurgisnacht events (Altought she can't 100% the first one).
I do hear people say she doesn't deal that much dmg compared to W.Corp or Spider, which makes sense for a self-sustaining poise ID, imagine she had a D.D.E.R. with a natural 1.2x Dmg mult., it'd be pretty dumb.
Regardless, she still has the easiest conditional AoE Skill and an S3 that clashes well and hits for not so much lower than D.D.E.R. & Serious Skullbuster.
I'll also leave a honorable mention for BL Yi Sang for being a good ID even before Kim Mersault was a thing and 7Faust for having one of the most consistent S2 I ever tried and also being really funny after you grab Thunderbranch++ on MD.
all esgoos must weep
It's just straight up like how Gregor is getting pre-meta ids and pre-meta egos.
Fun fact! Wild Hunt Heathcliff's Dullahan is a wolf. You can see its claws, which Erlking Heathcliff's Dullahan lacks.
His honse is a doggo.
Check again. Look how the legs bend more like horse legs than wolf legs, and how the neck is pointed upward like a horse rather than forward or downwards like a wolf.
So yeah, doggo-ish but still honse.
@@kairo3201 It's weird, it's like some kind of weird hybrid. But once again it DOES have the claws, which you can see especially in lighter environments.
@@kairo3201 you cannot unsee the awoohonse.
@@kairo3201 half doggo, half honse, it is...
The Donse.
@@senpyrothewizard8172 stinky ahh erlking with his stinky ahh donse
Ammo becoming a problem for rabbit heathcliff? But he can get 1 entire bullet on crit kill with Fell Bullet :)
Fell bullet is a support for quecliff though
"The Head HATES him! Find out how this rabbit gets INFINITE BULLETS with this ONE SIMPLE TRICK!!!"
@@aegisScale Only 3 times per encounter ? You're trying to gaslight me.
he made this video and then theres going to be a busted id right off the bat
• While I haven't finished watching the video (duh) I just want to say that the three best ways to tell if an ID is going to be busted is 1: ridiculous coin amounts 2: coin reuse and 3: attack weight (Think about every overpowered/most strong IDs in the game and they all have at least one of these three descriptions.) (Also, every Walpurgisnacht 3 star except Red Eyes Ryoshu [and she makes that up with roll power] fills these conditions, hmm....)
Edit: now that I've watched more of the video, I'd like to add one more condition: the ability to take damage AND benefit with something from taking that damage. Dieci Rodya gets blunt damage up, Queecliff gets 1% more damage up to 99%, BL Meur makes Claim Their Bones into Claim Their Entire Skeletons. (Zweishmael might actually dodge all four conditions, her only real thing is that she is incredibly tanky while also having great damage/rolls extremely easily)
You forgot about having ridiculously high damage bonus conditionals. That's why Zweimael's s3 is strong (though I always like to remind people that she tends to do less damage over the course of a fight than Dieci and HarpoonCliff).
@@sealyaggington7488 • Yeah, ESGOO mentioned that too and its definitely there on the strong IDs too, practically all of them have some way to get extra damage to be honest
I think as time goes on "strong/uniquely useful defense skills" might get added to the list. I know that, at the very least, Zweishmael and Huntkliff have playstyles that almost always revolve around their Power Guard/Clash Counter and the buffs it gives them.
NOT EVEN 48 HOURS LATER A NEW OUTIS ID GETS ANNOUNCED
Fun fact: The Before the King in Binds Status Effect given by the EGO works on Wild Hunt's S2... with 4 ATK weight...
Yep...
How fast do you want this video to be invalid?
ESGOO: Yes.
36:05 Wrong! I want him here! I apreciate sad umbrela potential man
This is unacceptable Zwei Ishmael slander. I will not stand for this. (Brought to you by the Zwei Ishmael solo gang) (Also love the video, see you in canto 7!)
I love being a new player and not fully understanding how the game works, makes it fun to find out I rolled the best character in the game in my first 10 pull. We love Ring Yi Sang out in these streets
Back when I started playing this game, I saw you call out “charge bias”. It entertained me greatly. So I saved for Don and her sparkly pole. To this day, I enjoy my warp team. The next season might comparatively crush her into ruby dust. But she will be the last to fall, and pole in hand she won't go down without a fight!
Gregor is great at warming the bench. It's so warm that the dying IDs just get healing from the thought o
poor gregor, its like his existence was meant to be benched healing support
Thank you for posting this during maintenance lol. Gonna keep using Solemn Lament Yi Sang cause guns go pew pew. Sinking team foraver
Finally, more content to not die during the update
32:24 me on my way to save ESGOO's wallet: "Boy's love Mersault!"
it's finally here, he said he wanted to do this ages ago. it's finally here...
omg, I didnt know of the discard trick for Outis/discard in general.
Now I can play her even better!
I literally just started playing limbus, rolled for love on red eyes ryoshu, 0 clue she was good, and got her and multicrack faust, only to then find out they are 2 of the very best Id's in the game, but this video helped me really understand why, and thats pretty cool
Also as a newbie i think it would be really cool if Esgoo did one of these for 00 id's, since they are way easier to obtain/stumble into
Yeah people sleep on 00s. They're nowhere near as flashy/silly as the 000s, but they're easy to invest in and help those 000s get to their ridiculous max potential. Hell, some 00s are just as if not sometimes more foundational to their archetypes than similar 000s (Seven Heathcliff/Lantern Don for Rupture, BL Don for the BL team, Ring Outis for bleed and MidSault for Envy Resonance come to mind). Even some of the less essential ones still have some neat traits which make them fun to use (West ZweiClair can keep a team grounded with his EGOs, Rosespanner Mersault and Yurodivy Ryoshu are fun tremor supports, W Faust, W Hong Lu and Crack Heathcliff are great charge supports, and KK Gregor can do some funny debuffs/heal the team with Garden of Thorns if you're feeling extra silly).
Unless you're intentionally sifting through the garbage and investing in, like, Sloshmael, Chef Greg, old Zweiclair or the like, you could probably carry a team of 00s through every bit of content the game has to offer, which is one of my favorite parts about Limbus. You don't _need_ to have the best stuff in the game to see everything the game has to offer, but that stuff's there if you wanna flex/have a power trip.
@@aegisScaleIm thinking of doing a sinking MD run with Dieci Yi Sang instead of Solemn Lament/Spicebush just because I wanna have some fun doing synergy with my other Dieci IDs and im tired of SL always stealing the spotlight. Hell, thats not even his best 00 ID and it still has a use case, however niche it may be, and thats the best part
PRIEST GREGOR INCOMING, REPENT FOR YOUR SLANDER
I'll be watching and rewatching this untill the end of the maintenance.
Waiting for this video to be struck by the curse in the following hours, welcome back Esgoo
Well done Esgoo, once again you have been struck by the curse and Cinq Meursault is insane
Gregor is one of 4 (Now 3) sinners with 1 id short… so he’s definitely getting something this season
My main worry is he gets 2 starred cus please he needs some id treatment like Devyat Rodya, Maidenless Heathcliff and Zwei Ishy. We need a 2 pager for Gregor
After being away from limbus company for a decent amount of time, this vid was very interesting to me because it did explain new mechanics that my overwhelmed brain just couldn’t comprehend on first read through
(Also if u want precise details, Yi sang is my fav character so canto IV is where i started to lose steam after its story completely released. What got me back into limbus was Solemn lament Yi sang… i am very predictable in this and most of my teams will have a Yi sang as an active participant.
On another note even when i wasnt playing i was paying attention to the story, Glory be PM and all that. Have to hold my sleeper agent title somehow)
I don't know why you didn't talk about G corp Gregor, he's clearly one of the best in the game! I mean, every bug spits out 300 lunacy, and that guy is like 80% bug, so you can just milk him for 240 lunacy on demand. He can't be killed either, so you can just keep hitting him until lunacy falls out again and again. Crackcliff wishes he had that kind of resource gain for the team.
ESGOO giving us LC content as we wait for season to drop what a guy
Butler Ryoshu might not be the strongest ID but it is still my most used one, limbus is very versatile and unless you specifically go out of your way to only use the weakest id's you can use whatever you want and succeed.
esgoo said none of the gregor ID's are really any good on their own. then preist gregor happened.
And then he keels over and dies if he gets so much as a single Bleed Count
PROJECT MOOOONNN GIVE GREGOR A GOD TIER BLEED ID THAT GAINS HASTE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!!!
"Impossible to compete against Ring Yi Sang" aka "Nah, I'd Paint"
RCliff is surprisingly good in RR4 (Ofc, it's a nobrainer to fun Wildhunt there), but RCliff works well.
A lot of the good buffs in RR4 is after the 6th Slot; So you can stuff RCliff into the speed slot, open with a fucking Quick Supression on an annoying unit you want off the battle. Then just kinda let him die, or use a Kings of Bind and just again let him die and be replaced. Quick Suppression should be able to 1 shot any ID in the game (Unless they're really tanky and resistant to pierce); It's how I dealt with that NClair that usually starts with a Self Destructing Purge, an unopposed Quick Suppression.
Besides section 1, I found myself running RCliff quite a bit (and I'm doing low turn clears between 40-45 turns long).
@@RelentlessStabbingGoBrrr... yes, that's the point you replace RCliff with another unit; It's taking advantage of the Chain Battle system
You don't make him stick for 5 turns; He takes one unit out, maybe 2 or 3, then you make him die
@@RelentlessStabbingGoBrrr ... Then why are we arguing about this? You clearly don't play RR
There's a slot that bumps a sinner's speed up, you put RCorp Heathcliff there; His Quick Supression will almost always kill a sinner. Him being fragile is also an upside, because in the buffs after slot 6 is alway going to be better. His huge upside is that RCliff, unlike WildCliff needs no setup; It's why RCliff is still used in Low Turn Count runs in RR4.
As an example, in part 2 of RR4 there's a NSinclair of loves doing S3 right off rip; So a good answer to this is burst him down with a Quick Suppression.
Umineko music on Heath segment is peak. Thank you ESGOO.
"the hard work of queueing a defense skill every once in a while which no other sinner does"
This is how you know ESGOO hasn't actually used Zwei Ish that much yet.
thank you for the baller video once again king
Butler Ryoshu was done dirty. Literally just a passing mention.
Multicrack my beloved carried me through limbus company
Hell yeah an esgoo video right before canto 7🤑🤑
Funny enough, my go-to strat with Dieci Rodion is to discard S3 and gain Insight 3 as soon as possible and then do the Eternal Discard Trick (like you mentioned with Dieci Hong Lu), because Insight 3 makes her S1 actually useable AND, while she loses out on her shield, she instead has the fun feature where Insight 3 allows her to randomly lose the entirety of one random negative event... EVERY. SINGLE. TURN.
Enemy applied 25-11 Bleeding? The very next turn, it's gone already. Rupture? Gone. Sinking? Gone. Offense Level Down, Defense Level Down, Fragile, Bind? I sleep. Some effects are too persistent for that passive, but those are unique effects that would literally break a bossfight if Dieci Rodion simply no-sold them (like being Sewing Target for the Barber, or being sucked by a rose against Sign Of Roses). Makes a lot of bossfights a lot less frustrating, since I can trust at least one of my Sinners to be squeaky clean of any debuffs they might apply and also lets me use her to facetank stuff. Oh, and facetanking attacks also gives her DMG+ next turn, which is a nice bonus.
Ngl, I think Devyat Rodya not even being mentioned in passing is a CRIME
I love how my hype rabbit gremlin (why is the ammo refill uptie 4..) and problematic reindeer child (NO DON'T KILL YOUR TE- Not again) got mentioned as great Ids 😊.
Requiem is also good when you start off with it to ramp up sinking count since it gives like 5pot and 4 count
I have a bit of a better strategy for Dieci Hong Lu. If in the encounter you don't need blunt dmg, and you can get to 3 gloom resonance, you can activate his passive, remove defence skill, which should have either s1 or s2, and then hit an enemy with +30% dmg up. Although his s3 also can help with sanity, so you really do need to consider if you should discard your s3 always when at 3 gloom resonance. And that is one of the reasons why Dieci Lu is my favorite id of all time. He is super fun, he is strong and yet still has nuances to suit him better for a ton of fights
Also, waiting for "Cinq Meursault: Opportunity cost via balancing" vid, cuz he can damn well roll 30 on his s3 if he hits one skill slot for long enough
Gregor, most definitely received a good id (if you learn how to use it)
How does one use this new priest dude
@@noishfanboy1141he's not hard to use
@@withergamer4885 from what I can tell he's another ramp up I'd who rapidly builds more bloodied hand. Iirc he has no way to spend ailing heart
@@noishfanboy1141 bloodied hand take a WHILE to ramp up unless you solo with him (which leads to more slots, more skills uses, one bloodied hand)
His archetype is being a tank, he has an insane health pool and one stagger threshold, he also has a passive that makes him immortal for a turn if he took lethal damage (so the main idea is to get the stagger threshold removed early).
As a bloodfiend id, he's a bloodfeast generator due to his insane self bleed.
Using skill 1 and 2 allows him to get bloodied hand and ailing heart (shield gives 3 ailing heart).
The more ailing heart the more life steal he has on hit but also makes his Sp healing passive work less.
Only After getting 30 bloodied hand do you usually want to use that skill 3 (even better if he's not at full hp for the exra damage buff) because it makes it deal, SHIT tons of damage while also healing gregor practically to max.
25:43 Why there weren't any words about Chief Butler Ryoushu? I mean, you can just oneshot 3 enemies with skill 2 on second turn
It seems like her best ID is severely underrated. How sad indeed
Can’t believe u drop this before canto 7
what i get from this video is if zweiclair manifested ego the original railway 3 team could have been saved
Another banger ESGOO love your videos
Bold to post this RIGHT AFTER maintenance
This is a perfect release day for this video since season 5 will start in just a few hours. It also means that this vid will get out dated very quickly.
Pirate Greg not mentioned. My bleed team soul crying😭
Multicrack faust got me through canto 4 to present, 10/10 would recommend 👍
THE SINKING ESGOO REVIEW
THE SINKING ESGOO REVIEW IS REALLLLLLL
give it like a week and then gregor releases a new insanely broken ID even stronger than ring sang
they just sneakpeeked the new gregor id which is bloodfiend id
i believe this is gonna make gregor superior
can't wait for this to be instantly outdated with canto 7!~