Awesome info! im most likely going to wait to do this on my evoker farmer but im going to mine/herb on my pally while i level then switch to enchanting and jc. Dont forget to use sky golem until you unlock the perk of gather while mounted
I really love your content man - great vid. Even with the increased focus on high-ranked herbs for top level crafts making gathering more worth it, I've never found gathering worth it compared to crafting and boosting due to competition from bots. In previous expansions, bots have dumped unimaginable amounts of supply on the AH and tanked prices faster that I expected every time. I really think you know better than me - do you think TWW could be different, perhaps due to the difficulty of leveling a character to be able to consistently gather r3 herbs?
Bots will always have an impact but I wouldn’t worry about it too much, you can still make insane amounts of gold from this, especially at the start of an expansion. Like you said they won’t be getting the high rank stuff but they will grab a lot of low rank herbs that can be processed.
It can be worth it. Got nuttin else going on? Just find a route & farm. In DF when glowspores were going for 15-20g a piece. I'd make anywhere from 25-75k an hour. Why the big difference? Depends how many bots were out there against me farming lol. Usually if I noticed bots doing my route, i'd let them fly by & wait for respawns to show up then i'd be ahead of them & it'd be despawning on them while I controlled all the nodes.
When does the new expansion price balloon burst typically? We are about 2 weeks into the expansion at the time of my comment and i don't intend to keep farming when the prices drop off. I want to switch to my armor spec so i can start gearing up and working the creation gold making market, but i don't want to over extend into the gathering professions when my time-gold ratio drops off.
It's a gradual process, the prices have been slowly dropping over time. It's possible prices may increase as the raid releases but, if it does happen, it will only be for a little while.
I am kinda stressed. I want to make a lot of gold but I also want to play the game and have fun on my main character and do not want to relearn stuff professions. I have tailoring and leatherworking and I made 20 alts for CD crafts. I still don't know exactly what CD's are. Idk how but the week of the launch is legit the busiest week at work for me I barely had enough time to watch this video on my lunch break. Can you suggest some video that will go over ALT CD farm? it seems that might be the only way if it still works due to time constraint. Thank you always for sharing your amazing knowledge @Kaychak
I have a few videos coming about alt armies but if your super busy I would just go some gathering if you want gold and get back to the alts when materials are cheaper for levelling up professions and you have more time.
@kaychak807 thanks so much for the advise! Sorry I was kinda venting because I was very excited but some how work randomly got in the way. I will take ur advice and I look forward to ur future videos!
pretty sure the sooner the better, prices might go up a tiny bit on launch day but with people still farming mats constantly i dont see them going up too much. Usually prices drop hard for mats a week or 2 into the xpac so im selling all mine early, and will prob stock up the day before to sell at launch for people who wanna spam lvl stuff like BS/Engi
If we collect all the herb and mining Profession Treasures during EA and open them, will the KP's be added to you trees right away, or will they only be added on day 1 of the official launch? Should we wait for normal launch to open them or does it matter?
So with that node that give 1 vigor when gathering a node, is it better to keep dragon riding or is it better to have a more chill and controlled approach with steady flight after getting the pathfinder thing ??
It's completely personnel preference, there's probably a min/max answer, but I would probably go with regular flight just because I prefer the more chilled approach. I imagine dragoinriding is probably BiS though.
any addons we can get to help with finding treasures, gathering etc? im beginner at doing professions. I think there was an addon that left a mark where you gathered on the map so u can make a route and see where to go
Quick question, would it be better to do the campaign asap on my tailoring/skinning alt and once the adventure mode is unlocked, hop on my gatherer main and straight up level just from farmig nodes and herbs? Or complete the campaign (also asap) on the gatherer and just start farming from there? Great video, everything is laid out plain and simple, even for a casual like myself 😄
@@kaychak807 Sooooo curious as to what you have cooking, but respect the close-to-your-chest play. If you ever feel like dropping any tiny hints as to where you suspect the epic plays are emerging ... ;)
Tailoring gatherer will be strong but most the cloth supply in the market was always 2x4 farmers with the right talents anyways so I don’t think it’ll be enough to keep prices high once studen finds a good farm.
Can I take herb/mining then drop it at a later date? Will I still be able to get knowledge with my new profs from the quests that provide knowledge OR are they one use per character per week type thing?
@@kaychak807 Cool, that was my plan, but didn't know if when I changed to say tailoring I wouldnt be able to get the knowledge points that I would of spent on mining etc
hey man sorry maybe its unrelated but do they delete class trial creation in dragonflight? i tried to make one class trial,but coulnd't find the checklist button
I know the racials arent the biggest but i'm curious which would you recommend for a gatherer? I'm considering making an earthen for the extra finesse.
This is what I would have gone with but I’m a competitive gold maker. The extra skill is really nice and the gathering speed helps against some of the annoying herb side affects early on.
On my character that has herbalism and mining both, since the most recent update - it's only tracking mining nodes on the minimap. You hear anyone else having the same issue? For the life of me I can't figure out how to get herbs back to tracking 😅
@@kaychak807 thank you very much, that helped. I could have swore that's it was a minimap button, I remember when I started playing track herbs and ore was in the spell book ...😆. I ended up disabling all of my addons and enabling back one by one till I figured out what was causing it to be gone.
Unpopular opinion here but, I miss the old gathering system. I hate the DF and beyond new system. I liked Classic - Shadowlands. I gave up on professions in DF sadly, besides old world stuff still. Thanks for the Vid, maybe I'll pick up tailoring tho so I can get cloth drops.
@@idk-jq4tz Dragonflight was way better cuz of elements. Back in there you can easily make 50k+ gold per hour at the start of the expansion and now its barely 45k (usually 37-42k) per hour Plus overloading herbs n ores seems really bad atm. At DF you can use overload at titan-touched ore\herb and gets GUARANTEED 1k+ gold (quick remind: awaikened order price was 2k+ for more than month from realese). What now? You can overload that bomb shit-ore to get 2 or 3 more casual nodes, or spider one and gets 3-6 web ore (which can be stolen by other players btw). Every overload, no matter what node or herb is it, are giving you 500g at best. And its only been 2 days since release. I cant see a single trace of how TWW gathering is better than DF. Its more interactive, yes, but for gold making its an absolute garbege
as a player that returned after taking a huge break, i am really upset that they kept profession the way they were in dragonflight... if u havent played from the start u automatically fall behind because of prof knowledge that u get weekly, its probably the most bs system ever...
u must have some deep cover incognito crazy alchemy/bs setup to give this detailed of a gathering guide, u want the prices of the mats low so u can make an even bigger killing dont u?
Believe it or not high prices benefit me, I can't be priced out of a market but other people can be. Is this from what I wrote on twitter the other day? 😀
Theres a wowhead guide that covers almost everything that has been said in the vid, so even if it’s very helpful, that doesn’t mean it’s some secret knowledge lol
Here are the locations for the items, for anyone interested:
## Herbalism
/way Isle of Dorn 59.20 23.54
/way Isle of Dorn 57.57 61.46
/way The Ringing Deeps 48.24 35.01
/way The Ringing Deeps 52.83 65.71
/way Hallowfall 47.79 63.35
/way Hallowfall 36.00 55.01
/way City of Threads 46.62 16.24
/way City of Threads 54.64 20.90
## Mining
/way Dornogal 36.60 79.30
/way Isle of Dorn 58.17 62.02
/way The Ringing Deeps 49.37 27.53
/way The Ringing Deeps 66.23 66.29
/way Hallowfall 43.10 56.80
/way Hallowfall 46.10 64.40
/way City of Threads 48.10 40.73
/way Azj-Kahet 46.80 21.90
do you need a addon for this? when i do /way it says type /help
@@lizzardlive4620 yes you need. TomTom can handle this.
@@lizzardlive4620 Tomtom
Yes its called Tomtom @@lizzardlive4620
@@lizzardlive4620 tomtom
TSM Dev here - thanks for the shout out!
Awesome info! im most likely going to wait to do this on my evoker farmer but im going to mine/herb on my pally while i level then switch to enchanting and jc. Dont forget to use sky golem until you unlock the perk of gather while mounted
Only thing id add is use sky golem as mount that way you can gather herbs mounted without the need to spend the points in botany
Doesnt work in TWW, no?
@@nielsoelderik5847 It does work!
It works for herbing sadly not mining
Great video! Is skinning a good option for gold making? If so what spec would you run?
I never got a chance to try out skinning so I don’t really now how good or bad it is and wouldn’t want to pretend I do.
Hey. I'm a returning player, and this video helped mme a lot with getting into gathering. Thanks a lot.
Glad it was helpful.
This video was amazing thank you
I really love your content man - great vid. Even with the increased focus on high-ranked herbs for top level crafts making gathering more worth it, I've never found gathering worth it compared to crafting and boosting due to competition from bots. In previous expansions, bots have dumped unimaginable amounts of supply on the AH and tanked prices faster that I expected every time. I really think you know better than me - do you think TWW could be different, perhaps due to the difficulty of leveling a character to be able to consistently gather r3 herbs?
Bots will always have an impact but I wouldn’t worry about it too much, you can still make insane amounts of gold from this, especially at the start of an expansion.
Like you said they won’t be getting the high rank stuff but they will grab a lot of low rank herbs that can be processed.
It can be worth it. Got nuttin else going on? Just find a route & farm. In DF when glowspores were going for 15-20g a piece. I'd make anywhere from 25-75k an hour. Why the big difference? Depends how many bots were out there against me farming lol. Usually if I noticed bots doing my route, i'd let them fly by & wait for respawns to show up then i'd be ahead of them & it'd be despawning on them while I controlled all the nodes.
When does the new expansion price balloon burst typically? We are about 2 weeks into the expansion at the time of my comment and i don't intend to keep farming when the prices drop off. I want to switch to my armor spec so i can start gearing up and working the creation gold making market, but i don't want to over extend into the gathering professions when my time-gold ratio drops off.
It's a gradual process, the prices have been slowly dropping over time. It's possible prices may increase as the raid releases but, if it does happen, it will only be for a little while.
I am kinda stressed. I want to make a lot of gold but I also want to play the game and have fun on my main character and do not want to relearn stuff professions. I have tailoring and leatherworking and I made 20 alts for CD crafts. I still don't know exactly what CD's are. Idk how but the week of the launch is legit the busiest week at work for me I barely had enough time to watch this video on my lunch break. Can you suggest some video that will go over ALT CD farm? it seems that might be the only way if it still works due to time constraint.
Thank you always for sharing your amazing knowledge @Kaychak
I have a few videos coming about alt armies but if your super busy I would just go some gathering if you want gold and get back to the alts when materials are cheaper for levelling up professions and you have more time.
@kaychak807 thanks so much for the advise! Sorry I was kinda venting because I was very excited but some how work randomly got in the way. I will take ur advice and I look forward to ur future videos!
He’s right, just came back to the game a month ago and made a million with my small alt army in DF. Smell the flowers, plenty of time to make gold.
whats the best mine, rarest mine to go for?
Should we be selling mats as soon as we get or would it be better to wait till launch day or even season one start?
pretty sure the sooner the better, prices might go up a tiny bit on launch day but with people still farming mats constantly i dont see them going up too much. Usually prices drop hard for mats a week or 2 into the xpac so im selling all mine early, and will prob stock up the day before to sell at launch for people who wanna spam lvl stuff like BS/Engi
Can I start playing halfway through the season, gather and make enough for a sub token or is it really only first 2 weeks that gathering is useful ?
Great vid, thank you
If we collect all the herb and mining Profession Treasures during EA and open them, will the KP's be added to you trees right away, or will they only be added on day 1 of the official launch? Should we wait for normal launch to open them or does it matter?
No one knows how it's all going to work yet, Blizzard have been really vague about it all.
So with that node that give 1 vigor when gathering a node, is it better to keep dragon riding or is it better to have a more chill and controlled approach with steady flight after getting the pathfinder thing ??
It's completely personnel preference, there's probably a min/max answer, but I would probably go with regular flight just because I prefer the more chilled approach. I imagine dragoinriding is probably BiS though.
@@kaychak807 yeah same, imma rush campaign and then start gathering 24/7 haha, thanks for the fast reply too :)
@@Frey_64 YA
a. really solid idea. Your gonna be rich.
@@Frey_64worth noting that the campaign (without side quests) leaves you at level 76, so there’s def a room for extra xp soley from gathering
Is there a addon you recommend for farming? tnx
sir i want ask, whats ur addon coordinate?
any addons we can get to help with finding treasures, gathering etc? im beginner at doing professions. I think there was an addon that left a mark where you gathered on the map so u can make a route and see where to go
Gathermap
Can you get more artisan's acuity week 1? I was unable to buy both the mining and herbalism +10 knowledge books.
They limited it so you cant get the artisan acuity from gathering in early access, the extra artisan acuity should come once we are properly released
Quick question, would it be better to do the campaign asap on my tailoring/skinning alt and once the adventure mode is unlocked, hop on my gatherer main and straight up level just from farmig nodes and herbs? Or complete the campaign (also asap) on the gatherer and just start farming from there?
Great video, everything is laid out plain and simple, even for a casual like myself 😄
I would just rush to level 80 and then play around with it really.
I got a double gatherer but a little lost on how we get artisans acuity as one for our gear
Thank you mate
Are u gonna stream during the early access?
Probably not as I’m usually doing secret things in wow 😯
@@kaychak807 Sooooo curious as to what you have cooking, but respect the close-to-your-chest play. If you ever feel like dropping any tiny hints as to where you suspect the epic plays are emerging ... ;)
You said this is a basic guide. I'd rather say its a CRUCIAL guide to anyone and everyone chosing these professions
I hate farming tho i think tailoring and enchanting will be better since only tailors can get cloth now.
Tailoring gatherer will be strong but most the cloth supply in the market was always 2x4 farmers with the right talents anyways so I don’t think it’ll be enough to keep prices high once studen finds a good farm.
Going with dual gather for first 80 over tailor bc of the xp you get as well.
Can I take herb/mining then drop it at a later date? Will I still be able to get knowledge with my new profs from the quests that provide knowledge OR are they one use per character per week type thing?
Based on DF, you will be able to catch up on your new profession knowledge if you drop your previous ones.
I could well be doing exactly this.
@@kaychak807 Cool, that was my plan, but didn't know if when I changed to say tailoring I wouldnt be able to get the knowledge points that I would of spent on mining etc
Thanks buddy
Hope it helps.
hey man sorry maybe its unrelated but
do they delete class trial creation in dragonflight?
i tried to make one class trial,but coulnd't find the checklist button
@@mang-oros it was there a couple of weeks ago. Look for the checkbox in bottom right when you are creating a new character
Does knowledge points matter on early access?
What about Sky Golem mount, can u skip the middle spec then if you use the normal flying?
hey there good job on the video ,, but the way points are different in game
That's odd, I only used the video this morning and found all the herbalism mining treasures fine.
How many BNETs with a Longboi on them do you have Sir Kaychak
I have EU and US account and have long boi on both of them.
I know the racials arent the biggest but i'm curious which would you recommend for a gatherer? I'm considering making an earthen for the extra finesse.
both versions of tauren are good because they give +5 skill and 25% faster gatherer, don't forget to make it a druid for mounted gathering.
This is what I would have gone with but I’m a competitive gold maker. The extra skill is really nice and the gathering speed helps against some of the annoying herb side affects early on.
TY
On my character that has herbalism and mining both, since the most recent update - it's only tracking mining nodes on the minimap. You hear anyone else having the same issue? For the life of me I can't figure out how to get herbs back to tracking 😅
There’s a binoculars icon next to the mini map, click that and track herbs should be their.
@@kaychak807 thank you very much, that helped. I could have swore that's it was a minimap button, I remember when I started playing track herbs and ore was in the spell book ...😆. I ended up disabling all of my addons and enabling back one by one till I figured out what was causing it to be gone.
Can you track herbs and ore simultaneously?
you can, yes. 🙂
What this good man said.
Dont miss out on sniffeling when you do duo-gathering!
what is sniffeling ?
@@bryanyolo6408 the new kobolt fraction, allowed you to find tresarues in the open world
How do you get that
Unpopular opinion here but, I miss the old gathering system. I hate the DF and beyond new system.
I liked Classic - Shadowlands. I gave up on professions in DF sadly, besides old world stuff still.
Thanks for the Vid, maybe I'll pick up tailoring tho so I can get cloth drops.
Can i do herb min during lvling? When im 70lvlcan i learn new tww profs? When trainers are in main city
You get to the main city after a few quests and then you can learn professions. You will still be 70 at that point
@@Alstadiwh oh nice so we rach main city at very start on df it was i think thaldrasus was the 3rd or maybe last area of story campaign so :) nice
But KP doesnt matter on early acces(?)
i did that artisans quest and chose the wrong bag before seeing this video , only have 185 artisans acuity :/
All the bags give 350 AA
@@kaychak807 i got scammed then didn't receive the amount should i make a ticket ? =D
@@kaychak807 and thnx for the video btw super informative wish you the best !
Seems to me TWW mining/herbing is paying out maybe 25% of what dragonflight mining/herbing did... what a shame.
Dragonflight mining/herb was awful compared wdym?
@@idk-jq4tz Dragonflight was way better cuz of elements. Back in there you can easily make 50k+ gold per hour at the start of the expansion and now its barely 45k (usually 37-42k) per hour
Plus overloading herbs n ores seems really bad atm. At DF you can use overload at titan-touched ore\herb and gets GUARANTEED 1k+ gold (quick remind: awaikened order price was 2k+ for more than month from realese). What now? You can overload that bomb shit-ore to get 2 or 3 more casual nodes, or spider one and gets 3-6 web ore (which can be stolen by other players btw). Every overload, no matter what node or herb is it, are giving you 500g at best. And its only been 2 days since release.
I cant see a single trace of how TWW gathering is better than DF. Its more interactive, yes, but for gold making its an absolute garbege
as a player that returned after taking a huge break, i am really upset that they kept profession the way they were in dragonflight... if u havent played from the start u automatically fall behind because of prof knowledge that u get weekly, its probably the most bs system ever...
Knowladge unlocks on monday no? So doesnt work for early ones
We have no idea what's available and what's not at the moment.
@@kaychak807 okey 😀
@@kaychak807We do
Knowledge not available during early
But we can still herb and mine for a couple days before hand and build up an idea for routes and good spots
@@stahliboi6249 yup ofc 😀 ez money
Wait can’t the sky golem still get herbs while mounted?
I don’t believe so I think they nerfed that before dragonflight but I may be incorrect
Yes it still works
You wont make millions. But its a relaxing way to make gold. Just dont expect to get rich from it.
i cant buy
ngl farming herbs and mining. in the war within expansion is probably the worse gold farming i seen in any expansion
u must have some deep cover incognito crazy alchemy/bs setup to give this detailed of a gathering guide, u want the prices of the mats low so u can make an even bigger killing dont u?
Believe it or not high prices benefit me, I can't be priced out of a market but other people can be.
Is this from what I wrote on twitter the other day? 😀
Theres a wowhead guide that covers almost everything that has been said in the vid, so even if it’s very helpful, that doesn’t mean it’s some secret knowledge lol
@@kaychak807 whats ure twitter?
blizzard fucked up mining and herb u can not make so much gold from it anymore from dragon flight dlc so stop telling ur bullshit thx