Been waiting for this comparison, Viper V2 Pro is not available yet in my area so I just got the GPX 2 days ago for $104 on sale. And also you've always recommended the GPX so huge thanks Boardzy!
The viper v2 release puts into perspective how iconic the GPX truly is. Logitech managed this back in 2020 and other companies are just now catching up. The fact it was the first mouse of its kind on the market and STILL holds up (and probably will until a new GPX version releases) against the newest releases is pretty crazy. Not a fanboy btw, I own both these mice but gotta give credit where it’s due.
Are you capping? There was a pandemic that happened in between that you are glossing over. It also wasn’t the first mouse of its kind, the Finalmouse Ultralight came out in 2018 and even that mouse wasn’t the first. Feel free to complement Logitech in introducing the first viable wireless gaming mouse, but leave the rest out of it. The GPX isn’t special, it simply took put stuff that already existed and made it into a mainstream mouse and charged way too much money for it. They still use omron switches for crying out loud! Its a crime to charge that much money for omron switches. Logitech hasn’t made a new mouse in years, all they do is update their old shapes, and their old shapes are some of the worst on the market. One of the few shapes that people actually like is the G403 and they refuse to make a superlight version. Logitech hasn’t release a mouse since the superlight came out in 2020. They haven’t even discounted the mouse much yet, its still at $130, and there is no special tech in the gpro superlight that costs anywhere close to $100. Logitech is robbing you blind, and you’re thanking them for it.
Razer viper v2 pro ftw, best shape for me, I like v3 optical switches, it weighs lighter than the gpx, the coating in the gpx might be slightly better/better grip but I actually like the textured feel on the v2 pro. Overall both are amazing gaming mice, choose which everyone feels better in hand or suits your grip style
Quick question what grip style are you using. I'm planning to buy one of these mice because unfortunately, someone stole my gpx a few months ago but I can't decide which one to get
@@mikec5349 My grip style is mainly claw grip. But you can use any style grip. The best style grip for this mouse is claw and fingertip grip imo. Had the mouse for about 4+ months and it’s holding up pretty well. Love the mouse, I highly recommend it. G pro x is also a great mouse it depends on how much you want it to spend and the grip styles you use. Both are amazing honestly
I lost the dongle for my Superlight and the Razer Viper V2 Pro is looking quite dope and I might add it to my arsenal of gaming mice since I can no longer use my Superlight in wireless mode and have to use the crappy cord it has. Good review and I think I just found my next mouse and possible end game if I enjoy the shape!
Hi there, im about half way through your review and i really like it. Ive been using the viper v2 pro since launch aswell and to me the viper feels wayyy lighter just cus of the balancing. Ive let a couple of people try the mouse on lan last weekend and they also said it feels much lighter, allthough only having like 3-5g difference. just wanted to put that out there. Thanks for your amazing content brother
@@lunis506 on the viper v2 pro i use the ones that came with it. They have very much texture, much more than the ones logitech puts in the box of the gpx.
My viper ultimate has been great for daily use over the last 6 months now. If Logitech release a new revision for the superlight then I may be tempted to get it
Please allow me to rephrase this comment in order not to irritate certain Logitech fan: For your information "loads of" users in Taiwan have had double click issues in less than a year of usage. I gifted one to my friend and it double clicks after 6 months (btw his old GPW double clicked in 1 year as well). Here in Taiwan we thank Logitech for teaching us how to change switches by ourselves and we praise Logitech for sending a new unit when you contact them for RMA (Update: It seems they cancelled free replacement so buy 1 get 1 fee is gone). This may "most likely" be caused by the terrible humidity and the same reason made the coating slippery, especially if you have a sweaty or greasy hand. But nevertheless GPXS is still popular here lol.
I am from Taiwan, I have 2 GPX, one more than one year and one for 5 month, none of them double clicked, so I am very lucky or this 8/10 is just some BS to say to exaggerate the issue, if you want to post something online, speically like 8 out of 10 had what, you better have the data to back it up, specially if you are a content creator yourself.
i had the g pro wireless for like 9 months after coming back to pc gaming and i loved it. i gave the superlight a try but the side buttons kinda threw me off because they were very very mushy. (prbly my unit) so i stuck with the regular. got the v2 pro for like 10% off 2 weeks ago because i wanted a new mouse as a main and kinda was curious about the viper shape. i still love the g pro but damn, the viper v2 was released at the perfect time for me and i fell in love with it instantly. i will resell my g pro, so i think the premium price is completely fine for me. 10/10 mouse, idc about all these price bashings. i mainly play apex, if some ppl are interested lol
is the viper v2 good for tracking in apex. For some reason i bought these really cheap mouse feet for my model D- since the original were a bit worn now im un able to track or flick onto targets. I just want to know if the viper or the g pro wireless is good for tracking. I think i might be getting the Viper v2.
@@account-2239 get the viper bro, u will not regret it. hit my wingman shots way better and have no problem tracking enemies either with a full auto weapon or some else. like my comment said, 10/10 mouse.
I've owned the Logitech G Pro X Superlight and the regular G Pro, but after getting the common omron issue of double clicking on both, I got the Glorious D- Minus Wireless and prefer the ergonomic shape. In real world applications, the sensor is so good that it doesn't matter that the G Pro X Superlight is marginally better.
I'd have just RMA the gpx. It has 20 mill Ormons which don't have the double click issue so its probably just a faulty unit. The regular g pro has 50 mill which would probably just end up double clicking again if you RMAd it. I've not used an ergo since the death adder back like 10 years ago but I feel like a smaller ergo would be awkward for gaming?
I prefer Razer Viper V2 a lot more the clicks feel way better and more premium the weight isn’t noticeable as you said but the shape and the comfort is something I really do care about so that’s why I’m gonna go with the Razer
The port comment at 12:16 felt so personal. I do genuinely have a burning hate for any product with a micro-usb that's been made in the last 3 years. And is a huge reason why I probably won't buy the Superlight. I've had awful experiences with the longevity of micros, and usb-c is just such a tremendous port.
The v2 pro is tempting, but I think I'll just stick with my GPX since I really love this mouse. Maybe later on I'll purchase the v2 once it goes down in price.
Goated for bringing up the education discount. I knew about it and I'm pretty sure Logitech has one too through another company, but I always thought it would be nice for reviewers to mention it.
The v2 is absolutely amazing imo. I’ve always like the ultimate and the v2 is just better in every aspect. Still go between the superlight and v2 tho because superlight is just goated
@Kice Dzingov I’ve had my razer longer then my gpx and never had an issue so probs just bad luck aye. I prefer the v2 over the gpx ngl, feels smoother and more responsive
Would u recommend using the grip tape provided with the v2? I already have them installed but i was contemplating taking them off but if i do, i cant put them back on so is it better to leave them on or take them off?
@@Soji.in4k personally I’ve never tried them. I don’t like grip tape, I’ve tried a few different ones and hated them all. I prefer just the raw mouse feeling
I have the same feeling that razer/viper tends to move faster than GPX under same edpi. I think it is because of dpi deviation, and I feel like it's about 30 to 50(400 as GPX, 430~450 on the viper) I hope they can fix this with a firmware update.
Yep, it's really just on our own preference of our hands I already tried gripping Viper Ultimate and GPX then I came to my own conclusion. I usually use claw grip and my fingers are not too long. It seems that my hands prefers the high back hump from the GPX so that my palm can rest in that hump more. When I held the Viper Ultimate, it seems that the mouse is too long for my hand (the length from front to back) and it's more flat? and I feel odd using claw grip on the Viper Ultimate. That's why I bought Logitech G Pro X Superlight and even with the release of the Viper v2 Pro, I will just stick on my G Pro X Superlight. P.S. I'm about to mod the hell out of this mouse of mine. Gonna switch the stock mouse encoder for a TTC Yellow Core and the mouse switches for Kailh GM 8.0
@@benten1443 I'm assuming it's the same for people who mod their keyboards, once they feel how much better they can make it feel you can never go back.
@@boardzy for me its the curvature on the sides of the mouse flaring out towards the front of the mouse. Plus the hump feels weird, but I can't really put my finger on it for some reason.
@@boardzy right, I need more hours in it to better say. This mouse should check everything I already know I prefer for my claw grip. It could be the sensor and hump position being further back and not towards fingertips?
@@boardzy I've been using the superlight since launch and have swapped to the v2 pro as my main. I can tell you that the superlight feels more comfy, but the viper seems to perform better. I think the issue is that the viper flares out too wide at the bottom and is slightly too long in terms of proportions.
Ps. if you are doing quick flicks, the Viper is much better for flick shots. I have used a camera to track my mouse movements in apex and calculated that I am maxing out the acceleration of both mice, but my shots are far more accurate with the viper. I have to go slower with the logitech All I want is razer to adopt the G pro's shape
There seems to be some advantages to the v2 pro when it comes to competitive shooters like valorant or cs go, especially if you use a claw grip. But I personally prefer the gpx as I like the shape better and I can't stand the way the v2 pro looks, it has this sharp gamery look that razer seems to use on all their products.
It is a gaming mouse why would not not have a game look lol the Logitech mouse looks super plain in my opinion the top of it looks so narrow I hate it lls
@@deanhollandjr1987 idk why bro is complaining about looks like it’s not going to be under his hand and the fact that’ll he be staring at his screen while using it
I'm talking about my opinion on what mouse I prefer and why, I'm not complaining about anything, it's all preference at the end of the day and obviously the viper sells well so lots of people like the way it looks. Y'all are taking what I said to seriously
I think the gpw x is good when doing slow pace games. Well all Logitech mice if I’m being honest and razer mice for fast paced games like Valorant, Apex, CSGO, fortnite, roblox
imo the Viper V2 is much better then the gpx the weight feels more balanced the sensor is much much better then the gpx’s might be cuz my gpxs experinces werent good ive had 2 both had pretty mushy buttons and the left click sounded higher pitched then the right click but maybe i just got 2 duds
I got both the viper v2 and the GPX superlight and RMA'd the viper. Side play was bothering me, just by pressing the RMB it would hit against the left wall of the indent (and make weird sounds). I could also actuate the side buttons by squeezing the mouse. Sad because I really like the shape but don't want to pay top money for a mouse that has this kind of build quality. Plus the GPX cost 100 EUR and the viper v2 160 EUR.
strange, i have the v2 pro and whether i leave it on sleep or just straight up turn it off, the cursor always registers immediately once I either move it or turn it on. It actually moves before synapse even shows the mouse on its app.
I like my superlight, but i can't really claw grip it like i would normally do with other mice because it is far bulkier. i decided to try the viper v2 pro and it's a much more fitting shape for my hand size and allows me to claw grip it very comfortably. nothing off the superlight though, it's a fantastic mouse, and the two are equally comparable outside of that preference.
Had the original VU and now I use a Superlight. Loving it for hip fire where I improved greatly. But for ADS, the Viper shape is just better IMO. I have more control and my little finger is in a stable position the whole time (palm grip). On the Superlight I never know a stable position where it doesn't bother me in game. Between the objectively better side buttons and the prefered personal taste, I'm thinking of grabbing this.
I have the viper v1 mouse for around 3 month now. Didn’t really liked it that much so I’m not going to buy the viper v2. Bought the gpx couple days ago and have tested the gpx at a family member place for a couple mins back when I bought the viper v1 and I fell in love with the gpx. Very light and smooth. Didn’t like the viper v1 clicks and scroll. And sometimes it would give me double clicks from time to time so that’s why I’m switching to gpx.
feel like id prefer the viper shape over the gpx as i own and main the gpx currently and im buying the viper v2 pro because my superlights coating is like shining rn likely cause i got sweaty palms or smthn but i feel like the viper is better imo and i pray to god i dont regret spending money on it
I have used the original viper in the past and as someone with smallish hands I didn't really find the shape comfortable so I decided to buy the GPX since it was on sale.
If only they made the viper v2 pro exactly the same except slightly smaller, as opposed to having the only small wireless option being a $300 ultra limited unrealistic collectors item. If someone knows how to put the v2 pro internals in a viper mini send me the link
Had 2 g pro superlights but both developed scroll issues unfortunately. I tried v2 pro and I can’t believe it actually made my headshot % better in Valorant and CS2
I just bought a pink G PRO X Superlight and got some new arc 1 skates and the glass ones for $12 off, and some BTL grip tape I believe, I used your 10% off code too. Since I had a student ID from ten years ago at my local technical college I was able to get 30% off my superlight from the logitech website, ensuring I get a good model with proper switches too.
Viper Ultimate > Viper v2 Pro Same price, just without a charging dock (if you want that, cuz personally im a huge fan of just putting my mouse on the dock when going somewhere instead of plugging it in), no left hand support on the v2 Pro, the ultimate has side buttons on the right side aswell, The rest, i cant talk about since I dont own a v2 Pro, but I don't think it would make a huge difference, comes down to preference and yes, I know this is a video about the Razer Viper v2 Pro vs the Logitech GPX, but I still wanted to put this opinion out there :)
only complaint with my superlight is the side buttons, went from a deathadder v2 that lasted 4 years to a 130$ mouse... i expected better side buttons than my middle of the road razer mouse
i have a model o and i am in need for a new mouse, and I was wondering what you would recomend for me. I have only had a model o for two years and durability is very important. I have big hands too btw. What mouse would you recomend for me?
Hi, its any dif between GPX black, white and magenta ? i mean as construction perspective i heard last batch of gpx magenta is better from that perspective compared whit black and white, is that tru ? :D btw u do an amazing job whit those reviews BIG up !
Hey boardzy what do you think about the hystar mousepad cause its the only option available here. I play on low sens mainly first person shooter (Warzone , CS:GO , Apex)
Yo boardzy I've not been following mousepads lately, I've been maining the Shidenkai for a couple years now and now that they aren't producing them anymore I'm not sure what pad to get... I'm not really keen on the skypad and I've not seen many good reviews on the Glorious Ice. Do you know of any other glass coated pads similar to the Shidenkai? Cheers bro
GPX would be the perfect mouse if the mouse side buttons were not that shit and i feel now after 1 1/2 years of daily heavy use the battery has to be charged more like once a week instead of every 2-3 from when it was new. i 100% recommend putting griptape on the side buttons, i did the same and it makes a huge difference.
Personally I would love to consider the Viper V2 Pro or really any Razer mouse but the sentiment I see commonly about their software really turns me off. Just not something I'm worth risking if the software sucks and the mouse costs that much.
The only annoying thing is that they try to force installation on you every time you plug the mouse in. As long as you dont download addons like razer cortex the base synapse is fine
I use the Superlight, and shape kinda bothers me. I tried the Viper in a Best Buy and I liked the shape, but the Superlight was lighter, so I went with that. The GPX is really high quality, but the shape is not for me.
Hi boardzy, I'm using a quite old Logitech g300s, which is quite a small mouse, and I want to transition to a wireless mouse in the future, but I'm not sure if I wanna go for a larger mouse like gpx or viper or stick with small ambi/ergo mice like how I am currently.
Hey man I have a quick question, We’re I live there is a sale on the Logitech G pro X so it costs 120$ and they don’t have the viper v2 pro so should I buy the Logitech?
Well at this price point, shape matters the most, normal gamers won't notice the difference between the sensors. So just choose the more comfy option according to your hand size and grip style.
I have both and for me Viper v2 pro is much better in games than my gpx superlight. I have just prefer Razer shape but logitech is awesome too and I prefer it when I am on the websites :P
So currently which mouse do u recommend to purchase wireless and non wireless and why? (FINGERTIP user) [more of a aggresive fingertip ( fingertip + claw ) ] The Viper Ultimate hits the back of my palm Hand Length: 17.6 & Hand Width: 9.7
Here in Brazil is really out of bounds for most people. Even 150 usd is really expensive for us. I am thinking in getting one next month in the US, but 150 usd is making think 100 times if i really should and need one as i already have one RVU...
so buy the superlight? its cheaper (currently GPROX 130usd, RVV2 180usd) superlight has better coating, better build quality, no sqeaky scroll wheel, GPROX is more aesthetic (imo), and more iconic.
I'm so used to the Superglide feet, that using the stock feet sucks for me. lol.... Just waiting on the Superglides to release for the Viper V2 Pro and I'll be replacing my well used Viper Ultimate.
Im using a superglide skate on gpx about 3 days ago, and it has been frustrating I play warzone and I don't win a 1v1 fight, because it's too fast and when you want to stop it doesn't stop, when I go to open a folder I have to click several times because it moves when I click, I don't know, To me is very inconsistent , I'm going to try some tiger ice to see.
@@carlosIsTrEaM I like the low initial friction on thy glass feet a LOT. I had the same issue though. But I switched to a slower, control pad. That helped a lot with the stopping power. But retained most of the low initial friction and easy tracking of the Superglides.
I didn't really like the Viper Ultimate compared to the G Pro Superlight but now that i've tried the v2 pro i have to say its one of my favorite mice i own. I would take it over the superlight personally. The sensor is just insanely good and the weight balancing and stock feet are perfect. The clicks are also awesome especially compared to my v1 opticals on my viper ultimate (Those were terrible). The v2 pro feels like an upgrade in every way tbh. Would highly recommend.
Looking for a mouse for productivity and casual gaming, how is the superlight for just normal productivity vs like logitech m720 which weighs 135 grams, isn’t a lighter mouse better for productivity tbh? Just wondering thanks
I started pc gaming on the G203 wired super low profile ambi mouse then I bought the super light took some getting used to and this christmas I asked for the Viper V2 pro which I would say is a good happy medium between the two so im hoping itll be my end game but the super light has treated my great
In my opinion, the finalmouse isn't great. Connectivity issues, and the mouse clicks are too sensitive, they feel like gateron clear switches (too light actuation force). If you can handle the light actuation force, it would be okay. They look and feel premium though.
Hey Boardzy, you should do a video about the nootropics you take. I’ve heard a lot about Alpha GPC from /r/nootropics and I’d love to hear your experience in terms of gaming/maybe a bit of life.
Hello! Im about to buy a new mouse (i have g502) and i dont know if i should get the gpx or the viper v2 pro. In my country the gpx is around 30-40 euro cheaper so im not sure if the viper still eorth it.😊
I don't have any experience with either mouse, but I have experience with a razer deathadder elite. I also have the same problem with the creak and squek in the scroll wheel
Hello Boardzy, I have an issue on my g pro superlight, I can't make micro adjustments (the LOD is too low, it's my impression), maybe the problem is about mouse feet (i use default mouse feet) or the shape ? I'm ZA12 user, I wanted to play wireless but it's complicated, Ty for videos !
which mouse do you prefer, viper v2 pro or gpx?
G703 > GPX > Viper
Viper V2 Pro hands down. Shape is king, and it’s even lighter than the Superlight. A true gift from the gods.
viper v2 pro x superlight
i think viper v2 pro looks cooler but idk, i only have model o so i cant say anything
I prefer the grip of the gpx, and the click is very good, unfortunately the side buttons are really mushy
Been waiting for this comparison, Viper V2 Pro is not available yet in my area so I just got the GPX 2 days ago for $104 on sale. And also you've always recommended the GPX so huge thanks Boardzy!
Where did u find the gpx for 104 dollars? New??
@@danielbarandica758 it was on sale. And yes brand new.
The viper v2 release puts into perspective how iconic the GPX truly is. Logitech managed this back in 2020 and other companies are just now catching up. The fact it was the first mouse of its kind on the market and STILL holds up (and probably will until a new GPX version releases) against the newest releases is pretty crazy.
Not a fanboy btw, I own both these mice but gotta give credit where it’s due.
i completely agree
It just needed that USB C mannnn 😭😭😭 woulda been hella future proof. I love it tho, I have two lmao
@@yharles6536 USBC does not matter when it is on your desk and you need a cable to plug into the dongle anyways.
@@yharles6536 usb-c port have more weight
Are you capping? There was a pandemic that happened in between that you are glossing over. It also wasn’t the first mouse of its kind, the Finalmouse Ultralight came out in 2018 and even that mouse wasn’t the first.
Feel free to complement Logitech in introducing the first viable wireless gaming mouse, but leave the rest out of it. The GPX isn’t special, it simply took put stuff that already existed and made it into a mainstream mouse and charged way too much money for it. They still use omron switches for crying out loud! Its a crime to charge that much money for omron switches.
Logitech hasn’t made a new mouse in years, all they do is update their old shapes, and their old shapes are some of the worst on the market. One of the few shapes that people actually like is the G403 and they refuse to make a superlight version.
Logitech hasn’t release a mouse since the superlight came out in 2020. They haven’t even discounted the mouse much yet, its still at $130, and there is no special tech in the gpro superlight that costs anywhere close to $100.
Logitech is robbing you blind, and you’re thanking them for it.
I bought the v2 and the side button are honestly impressive basically no pre or post travel just high quality.
did you ever encounter issues with the v2 scroll wheel?
Razer viper v2 pro ftw, best shape for me, I like v3 optical switches, it weighs lighter than the gpx, the coating in the gpx might be slightly better/better grip but I actually like the textured feel on the v2 pro. Overall both are amazing gaming mice, choose which everyone feels better in hand or suits your grip style
Quick question what grip style are you using. I'm planning to buy one of these mice because unfortunately, someone stole my gpx a few months ago but I can't decide which one to get
@@mikec5349 My grip style is mainly claw grip. But you can use any style grip. The best style grip for this mouse is claw and fingertip grip imo. Had the mouse for about 4+ months and it’s holding up pretty well. Love the mouse, I highly recommend it. G pro x is also a great mouse it depends on how much you want it to spend and the grip styles you use. Both are amazing honestly
@@thehottestbeatzHow bi go are your hands? Im thinking about getting it and I use claw grip as well
great review and the info about the discount at the end is really helpful. much much appreciated.
probably going to switch to the v2 pro in a bit. ive been using the superlight for around a year but i honestly hate the shape, love the viper shape
dont care
@@megaclinton6527 it was good opinion tho , do care
I lost the dongle for my Superlight and the Razer Viper V2 Pro is looking quite dope and I might add it to my arsenal of gaming mice since I can no longer use my Superlight in wireless mode and have to use the crappy cord it has. Good review and I think I just found my next mouse and possible end game if I enjoy the shape!
hi
@RuDuffEnough WellRu How do you set the dongle up?
@RuDuffEnough WellRu Way off the mark. Once the dongle is lost - throw the mouse away.
You can buy another dongle lol
Hi there, im about half way through your review and i really like it.
Ive been using the viper v2 pro since launch aswell and to me the viper feels wayyy lighter just cus of the balancing.
Ive let a couple of people try the mouse on lan last weekend and they also said it feels much lighter, allthough only having like 3-5g difference.
just wanted to put that out there.
Thanks for your amazing content brother
Quick addition, to me griptapes on the v2 pro are a gamechanger. without griptapes i would switch back to the gpx, thats just my taste tho.
The flared sides really make it feel way lighter. The shape is just unbeatable.
@@ayzee5480 hey which griptapes are you using?
@@lunis506 on the viper v2 pro i use the ones that came with it. They have very much texture, much more than the ones logitech puts in the box of the gpx.
@@ayzee5480 thank you! would you recommend them for sweaty hands?
My viper ultimate has been great for daily use over the last 6 months now. If Logitech release a new revision for the superlight then I may be tempted to get it
As a fan of hardstyle, I think the viper v2 pro is better, no bias
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Please allow me to rephrase this comment in order not to irritate certain Logitech fan:
For your information "loads of" users in Taiwan have had double click issues in less than a year of usage. I gifted one to my friend and it double clicks after 6 months (btw his old GPW double clicked in 1 year as well). Here in Taiwan we thank Logitech for teaching us how to change switches by ourselves and we praise Logitech for sending a new unit when you contact them for RMA (Update: It seems they cancelled free replacement so buy 1 get 1 fee is gone). This may "most likely" be caused by the terrible humidity and the same reason made the coating slippery, especially if you have a sweaty or greasy hand. But nevertheless GPXS is still popular here lol.
Thx for the info, also i agree it probably is due to the high humidity
@@boardzy Love your content, just so you know some of my audiences are also your fans. Keep on the good work :)
I am from Taiwan, I have 2 GPX, one more than one year and one for 5 month, none of them double clicked, so I am very lucky or this 8/10 is just some BS to say to exaggerate the issue, if you want to post something online, speically like 8 out of 10 had what, you better have the data to back it up, specially if you are a content creator yourself.
i guess depend on air condition. Mine, malaysia 1 yr & 3 month still goin strong no issue
@@ZZZZZZZTUBE Dude I am simply telling what I got from my small community and personal experience, but I respect your opinion.
Amazing video Boardzy, i love your work
i had the g pro wireless for like 9 months after coming back to pc gaming and i loved it. i gave the superlight a try but the side buttons kinda threw me off because they were very very mushy. (prbly my unit) so i stuck with the regular. got the v2 pro for like 10% off 2 weeks ago because i wanted a new mouse as a main and kinda was curious about the viper shape. i still love the g pro but damn, the viper v2 was released at the perfect time for me and i fell in love with it instantly. i will resell my g pro, so i think the premium price is completely fine for me. 10/10 mouse, idc about all these price bashings. i mainly play apex, if some ppl are interested lol
ive had 2 gpx and both had a mushy button problem
Ayo apex??
is the viper v2 good for tracking in apex. For some reason i bought these really cheap mouse feet for my model D- since the original were a bit worn now im un able to track or flick onto targets. I just want to know if the viper or the g pro wireless is good for tracking. I think i might be getting the Viper v2.
@@account-2239 get the viper bro, u will not regret it. hit my wingman shots way better and have no problem tracking enemies either with a full auto weapon or some else. like my comment said, 10/10 mouse.
@@mindofmxz thanks for the instant reply. i will try it out
I've owned the Logitech G Pro X Superlight and the regular G Pro, but after getting the common omron issue of double clicking on both, I got the Glorious D- Minus Wireless and prefer the ergonomic shape. In real world applications, the sensor is so good that it doesn't matter that the G Pro X Superlight is marginally better.
I'd have just RMA the gpx. It has 20 mill Ormons which don't have the double click issue so its probably just a faulty unit. The regular g pro has 50 mill which would probably just end up double clicking again if you RMAd it. I've not used an ergo since the death adder back like 10 years ago but I feel like a smaller ergo would be awkward for gaming?
I just replaced the switches to Kalih gm8.0, what a transformation..
I prefer Razer Viper V2 a lot more the clicks feel way better and more premium the weight isn’t noticeable as you said but the shape and the comfort is something I really do care about so that’s why I’m gonna go with the Razer
Lol
But does the Viper have a bright pink color option? Didn't think so.
Logitech 1 - 0 Razer
Razer did a pink version on their Viper Ultimate first, far before logitech, give it a few months and we'll have color ways for the v2 pro as well
@@brock7682 Its just a prank mens.
The port comment at 12:16 felt so personal. I do genuinely have a burning hate for any product with a micro-usb that's been made in the last 3 years. And is a huge reason why I probably won't buy the Superlight. I've had awful experiences with the longevity of micros, and usb-c is just such a tremendous port.
usb-c is a deciding factor for me, too. the logi would be my only micro in 2024
The v2 pro is tempting, but I think I'll just stick with my GPX since I really love this mouse. Maybe later on I'll purchase the v2 once it goes down in price.
dont care
@@megaclinton6527 just like how your parents dont care about you
@@megaclinton6527 i care
@@megaclinton6527 I care
@@megaclinton6527 ^They care
I went from a GPX SL and tried out the V2 Pro and holy shit. I’ve been hitting my best shots I ever have.
Would love to see a comparison between the V2 Pro and the XM2W once it actually releases!
Still waiting too haha
@@aaronhuynh7199 still waiting :(
Goated for bringing up the education discount. I knew about it and I'm pretty sure Logitech has one too through another company, but I always thought it would be nice for reviewers to mention it.
I'm still using the original viper, ain't got 150 bones to drop on a mouse
You have 206 bones though.
The v2 is absolutely amazing imo. I’ve always like the ultimate and the v2 is just better in every aspect. Still go between the superlight and v2 tho because superlight is just goated
@Kice Dzingov I’ve had my razer longer then my gpx and never had an issue so probs just bad luck aye. I prefer the v2 over the gpx ngl, feels smoother and more responsive
@Kice Dzingov 80fps??? Tf does that even mean 😂😂
Would u recommend using the grip tape provided with the v2? I already have them installed but i was contemplating taking them off but if i do, i cant put them back on so is it better to leave them on or take them off?
@@Soji.in4k personally I’ve never tried them. I don’t like grip tape, I’ve tried a few different ones and hated them all. I prefer just the raw mouse feeling
@Kice Dzingov shut up cringe. You’re lying
I love the v2 and after a week or so I added side grips and it's almost perfect now. Using it on an Odin Infinity.
@Daniel Wang u get grips along with the mouse
Is the shape good for claw grip, or does the superlight have a better shape?
I have the same feeling that razer/viper tends to move faster than GPX under same edpi. I think it is because of dpi deviation, and I feel like it's about 30 to 50(400 as GPX, 430~450 on the viper) I hope they can fix this with a firmware update.
its probably because of the sensor placement.
its motionsync, idk why he never even talked about it in the video
Yep, it's really just on our own preference of our hands
I already tried gripping Viper Ultimate and GPX then I came to my own conclusion. I usually use claw grip and my fingers are not too long. It seems that my hands prefers the high back hump from the GPX so that my palm can rest in that hump more. When I held the Viper Ultimate, it seems that the mouse is too long for my hand (the length from front to back) and it's more flat? and I feel odd using claw grip on the Viper Ultimate.
That's why I bought Logitech G Pro X Superlight and even with the release of the Viper v2 Pro, I will just stick on my G Pro X Superlight.
P.S. I'm about to mod the hell out of this mouse of mine. Gonna switch the stock mouse encoder for a TTC Yellow Core and the mouse switches for Kailh GM 8.0
Honestly I'm surprised by the number of people who mod their mouse...like why? It already has so little components...
@@benten1443 I'm assuming it's the same for people who mod their keyboards, once they feel how much better they can make it feel you can never go back.
Yessir been looking for a comparison
As a fellow FK2 shape enjoyer something feels odd about v2 pro, I find myself going back to my gpx a lot.
What do u think it is? Ive seen a few comments saying smth feels off but to me its been one of the best mice ive used
Me too it’s too wide and flat for me
@@boardzy for me its the curvature on the sides of the mouse flaring out towards the front of the mouse. Plus the hump feels weird, but I can't really put my finger on it for some reason.
@@boardzy right, I need more hours in it to better say. This mouse should check everything I already know I prefer for my claw grip.
It could be the sensor and hump position being further back and not towards fingertips?
@@boardzy I've been using the superlight since launch and have swapped to the v2 pro as my main. I can tell you that the superlight feels more comfy, but the viper seems to perform better. I think the issue is that the viper flares out too wide at the bottom and is slightly too long in terms of proportions.
Ps. if you are doing quick flicks, the Viper is much better for flick shots.
I have used a camera to track my mouse movements in apex and calculated that I am maxing out the acceleration of both mice, but my shots are far more accurate with the viper. I have to go slower with the logitech
All I want is razer to adopt the G pro's shape
Thank you so much for this now I know which one to buy now
which one do you prefer?
@@riqwz6263 he’s getting the Logitech G502
@RiQwz I’m getting the gpx wireless
There seems to be some advantages to the v2 pro when it comes to competitive shooters like valorant or cs go, especially if you use a claw grip. But I personally prefer the gpx as I like the shape better and I can't stand the way the v2 pro looks, it has this sharp gamery look that razer seems to use on all their products.
It is a gaming mouse why would not not have a game look lol the Logitech mouse looks super plain in my opinion the top of it looks so narrow I hate it lls
@@deanhollandjr1987 idk why bro is complaining about looks like it’s not going to be under his hand and the fact that’ll he be staring at his screen while using it
I think the mouse shape is supposed to resemble a viper snake
I'm talking about my opinion on what mouse I prefer and why, I'm not complaining about anything, it's all preference at the end of the day and obviously the viper sells well so lots of people like the way it looks. Y'all are taking what I said to seriously
I think the gpw x is good when doing slow pace games. Well all Logitech mice if I’m being honest and razer mice for fast paced games like Valorant, Apex, CSGO, fortnite, roblox
imo the Viper V2 is much better then the gpx the weight feels more balanced the sensor is much much better then the gpx’s might be cuz my gpxs experinces werent good ive had 2 both had pretty mushy buttons and the left click sounded higher pitched then the right click but maybe i just got 2 duds
I got both the viper v2 and the GPX superlight and RMA'd the viper.
Side play was bothering me, just by pressing the RMB it would hit against the left wall of the indent (and make weird sounds). I could also actuate the side buttons by squeezing the mouse.
Sad because I really like the shape but don't want to pay top money for a mouse that has this kind of build quality.
Plus the GPX cost 100 EUR and the viper v2 160 EUR.
strange, i have the v2 pro and whether i leave it on sleep or just straight up turn it off, the cursor always registers immediately once I either move it or turn it on. It actually moves before synapse even shows the mouse on its app.
I like my superlight, but i can't really claw grip it like i would normally do with other mice because it is far bulkier. i decided to try the viper v2 pro and it's a much more fitting shape for my hand size and allows me to claw grip it very comfortably. nothing off the superlight though, it's a fantastic mouse, and the two are equally comparable outside of that preference.
So the superlight is better is better for bigger hand?
@@Internautao generally i'd say both are fine if you have big hands, but generally yes
Had the original VU and now I use a Superlight. Loving it for hip fire where I improved greatly. But for ADS, the Viper shape is just better IMO. I have more control and my little finger is in a stable position the whole time (palm grip). On the Superlight I never know a stable position where it doesn't bother me in game.
Between the objectively better side buttons and the prefered personal taste, I'm thinking of grabbing this.
Do it. I was in the same boat and It’s amazing.
Dude. Try toggle aim.
Are you honestly for real with this?
@@nexxusty don’t like toggle. I am for real with this.
@@nexxusty fuck toggle aim.
Just bought my third Superlight. There is no turning back
change name to flex
why did the other two break?
@@BOZ_11 I returned one because the side buttons were mushy. Traded the second one for a ninja air58. Got a new one cus I missed it lol
@@FluXReign the buttons aren't always mushy?
@@Gadottinho they all do feel someone mushy I guess. Two of the copies had the buttons more recessed into the mouse making them harder to push
Boardzy, how long does a superlight works fine before you buy another?
I have the viper v1 mouse for around 3 month now. Didn’t really liked it that much so I’m not going to buy the viper v2. Bought the gpx couple days ago and have tested the gpx at a family member place for a couple mins back when I bought the viper v1 and I fell in love with the gpx. Very light and smooth. Didn’t like the viper v1 clicks and scroll. And sometimes it would give me double clicks from time to time so that’s why I’m switching to gpx.
feel like id prefer the viper shape over the gpx as i own and main the gpx currently and im buying the viper v2 pro because my superlights coating is like shining rn likely cause i got sweaty palms or smthn but i feel like the viper is better imo and i pray to god i dont regret spending money on it
13:54 maybe the sensitivty difference is due to the placement of the sensor being further / nearer relative to your palm's base ?
I have used the original viper in the past and as someone with smallish hands I didn't really find the shape comfortable so I decided to buy the GPX since it was on sale.
If only they made the viper v2 pro exactly the same except slightly smaller, as opposed to having the only small wireless option being a $300 ultra limited unrealistic collectors item.
If someone knows how to put the v2 pro internals in a viper mini send me the link
Yo if ur still looking for smt similar the pwnage symm 2 is basically a razer viper v2 mini
Thank you tor testing the mice in the only valuable benchmark
fortnite?
@@boardzy yes
thank you so much for making this
Had 2 g pro superlights but both developed scroll issues unfortunately. I tried v2 pro and I can’t believe it actually made my headshot % better in Valorant and CS2
I just bought a pink G PRO X Superlight and got some new arc 1 skates and the glass ones for $12 off, and some BTL grip tape I believe, I used your 10% off code too.
Since I had a student ID from ten years ago at my local technical college I was able to get 30% off my superlight from the logitech website, ensuring I get a good model with proper switches too.
Viper Ultimate > Viper v2 Pro
Same price, just without a charging dock (if you want that, cuz personally im a huge fan of just putting my mouse on the dock when going somewhere instead of plugging it in), no left hand support on the v2 Pro, the ultimate has side buttons on the right side aswell, The rest, i cant talk about since I dont own a v2 Pro, but I don't think it would make a huge difference, comes down to preference
and yes, I know this is a video about the Razer Viper v2 Pro vs the Logitech GPX, but I still wanted to put this opinion out there :)
I have the V2 Pro but I still somehow prefer the Pulsefire haste , sure the V2 pro has much better customizations and sensor but shape > all
Those 2 are very similar
@@mannyman139 it feels longer because its flatter .
GPX!! i struggled with the end game and the superlight buttt i ALWAYS end up with the gpx in my palm. its just perfection.
Hey Mate, how come the side buttons on your gpx are like a different color? Normally they should be in pink too, no?
Boardzy, out of topic but what are those supplements in your background?
ive used my super light for 8 month and ive had my v2 for 2 days and its sm better
Wow that’s great you also have big hands like me. Have you tried bigger mouses like the Zowie ec1 C for big hands like ours ?
A real good reveiw! ty.
only complaint with my superlight is the side buttons, went from a deathadder v2 that lasted 4 years to a 130$ mouse... i expected better side buttons than my middle of the road razer mouse
Boardzy, do you have any plans on reviewing the razer basalisk?
Gpx is 104 on Amazon right now for anyone who's looking to get it.
i have a model o and i am in need for a new mouse, and I was wondering what you would recomend for me. I have only had a model o for two years and durability is very important. I have big hands too btw. What mouse would you recomend for me?
Hi, its any dif between GPX black, white and magenta ? i mean as construction perspective i heard last batch of gpx magenta is better from that perspective compared whit black and white, is that tru ? :D btw u do an amazing job whit those reviews BIG up !
what are your thoughts on the model o pro? would u bust out a based review soon.
Okay so I'm 10 seconds in and I did a prayer circle for the Superlight hopefully it comes out on top because it's the mouse of god himself
I’ll pour one out for u brother 🫡
started w razer mice years ago but once i got into logitech i havent had any other mice this is the first time im actually torn between these 2
Hey boardz I’ve been buying a lot of steel series mouses now and I was wondering if you could do a review on the steelseries aerox 3
I already did like 2 years ago, I didn’t like it that much
@@boardzy alr ill go watch it now thx
My side buttons on the razer viper v2 pro are a little bit wobbly how can I prevent that
Hey boardzy what do you think about the hystar mousepad cause its the only option available here. I play on low sens mainly first person shooter (Warzone , CS:GO , Apex)
Which to buy from these 2/?> boardzy?? Razer Viper v2 Pro VS Logitech G Pro X?
Boardzy what mods would u suggest on the razer viper v2?
Yo boardzy I've not been following mousepads lately, I've been maining the Shidenkai for a couple years now and now that they aren't producing them anymore I'm not sure what pad to get... I'm not really keen on the skypad and I've not seen many good reviews on the Glorious Ice. Do you know of any other glass coated pads similar to the Shidenkai? Cheers bro
I just noticed... did you take the side buttons from the shroud edition g pro and put them in the superlight bc of the buttons better profile sizes?
GPX would be the perfect mouse if the mouse side buttons were not that shit and i feel now after 1 1/2 years of daily heavy use the battery has to be charged more like once a week instead of every 2-3 from when it was new. i 100% recommend putting griptape on the side buttons, i did the same and it makes a huge difference.
Personally I would love to consider the Viper V2 Pro or really any Razer mouse but the sentiment I see commonly about their software really turns me off. Just not something I'm worth risking if the software sucks and the mouse costs that much.
Same i think the v2 pro is better but the razer synapse suck compared to G hub
The only annoying thing is that they try to force installation on you every time you plug the mouse in. As long as you dont download addons like razer cortex the base synapse is fine
You set the dpi once then delete the software lol
you still enjoying the infiinty-hump for the SL12?
Good review. Im taking v2 pro but im hoping for vpm v2.. btw whats his keyboard on white caps?
Apex pro tkl
I use the Superlight, and shape kinda bothers me. I tried the Viper in a Best Buy and I liked the shape, but the Superlight was lighter, so I went with that. The GPX is really high quality, but the shape is not for me.
Tape it to your hand every night when you go to sleep. Give it about 6 months and your hand will form to the shape
@@RequiemOfSolo ight bet
same thing but the razer felt too small imo
Shape is king
what is the mousepad in the thumbnail?
if its unreleased, when is there going to be a review?
Hi boardzy, I'm using a quite old Logitech g300s, which is quite a small mouse, and I want to transition to a wireless mouse in the future, but I'm not sure if I wanna go for a larger mouse like gpx or viper or stick with small ambi/ergo mice like how I am currently.
razer viper mini, trust me its much better to go with something youre comfortable with in terms of size
@@axroo5068 thats not wireless tf
Hey man I have a quick question, We’re I live there is a sale on the Logitech G pro X so it costs 120$ and they don’t have the viper v2 pro so should I buy the Logitech?
How does the software compare though? Logitech vs razer? I'm a big fan of editable macros, and automatic profile switching.
logitech ofc
Well at this price point, shape matters the most, normal gamers won't notice the difference between the sensors. So just choose the more comfy option according to your hand size and grip style.
I have both and for me Viper v2 pro is much better in games than my gpx superlight. I have just prefer Razer shape but logitech is awesome too and I prefer it when I am on the websites :P
So currently which mouse do u recommend to purchase wireless and non wireless and why? (FINGERTIP user) [more of a aggresive fingertip ( fingertip + claw ) ]
The Viper Ultimate hits the back of my palm Hand Length: 17.6 & Hand Width: 9.7
the only problem for the v2 pro is that here in br it's like 250 usd, ima buy one for the review but that price is so underwhelming :(
Here in Brazil is really out of bounds for most people. Even 150 usd is really expensive for us. I am thinking in getting one next month in the US, but 150 usd is making think 100 times if i really should and need one as i already have one RVU...
@@MrCauebc especially when the gpx constantly drops to 110 usd
Superlight is still better I prefer how mouse 1&2 are on top and not open on the sides like the V2Pro my grip gets pinched on the viper.
so buy the superlight? its cheaper (currently GPROX 130usd, RVV2 180usd) superlight has better coating, better build quality, no sqeaky scroll wheel, GPROX is more aesthetic (imo), and more iconic.
I'm so used to the Superglide feet, that using the stock feet sucks for me. lol.... Just waiting on the Superglides to release for the Viper V2 Pro and I'll be replacing my well used Viper Ultimate.
Im using a superglide skate on gpx about 3 days ago, and it has been frustrating I play warzone and I don't win a 1v1 fight, because it's too fast and when you want to stop it doesn't stop, when I go to open a folder I have to click several times because it moves when I click, I don't know, To me is very inconsistent , I'm going to try some tiger ice to see.
@@carlosIsTrEaM I like the low initial friction on thy glass feet a LOT. I had the same issue though. But I switched to a slower, control pad. That helped a lot with the stopping power. But retained most of the low initial friction and easy tracking of the Superglides.
I didn't really like the Viper Ultimate compared to the G Pro Superlight but now that i've tried the v2 pro i have to say its one of my favorite mice i own. I would take it over the superlight personally. The sensor is just insanely good and the weight balancing and stock feet are perfect. The clicks are also awesome especially compared to my v1 opticals on my viper ultimate (Those were terrible). The v2 pro feels like an upgrade in every way tbh. Would highly recommend.
but in europe it costs 160 euros while the GPX costs 100 euros. Do you think its still worth it?
@@shitbringer save yourself 60 euro though, 100 euroes for gpx is better
did you ever encounter issues with the v2 scroll wheel?
Looking for a mouse for productivity and casual gaming, how is the superlight for just normal productivity vs like logitech m720 which weighs 135 grams, isn’t a lighter mouse better for productivity tbh? Just wondering thanks
Any idea when you might be able to review the new Glorious Model O PRO?
I started pc gaming on the G203 wired super low profile ambi mouse then I bought the super light took some getting used to and this christmas I asked for the Viper V2 pro which I would say is a good happy medium between the two so im hoping itll be my end game but the super light has treated my great
Wondering. What made you stick with the superlight over the finalmouse?
amogus
better mouse
In my opinion, the finalmouse isn't great. Connectivity issues, and the mouse clicks are too sensitive, they feel like gateron clear switches (too light actuation force). If you can handle the light actuation force, it would be okay. They look and feel premium though.
when you say the side buttons on the gpx feel mushy do you mean when you press the down or just how they fell on your fingertips?
Hey Boardzy, you should do a video about the nootropics you take. I’ve heard a lot about Alpha GPC from /r/nootropics and I’d love to hear your experience in terms of gaming/maybe a bit of life.
Hello! Im about to buy a new mouse (i have g502) and i dont know if i should get the gpx or the viper v2 pro. In my country the gpx is around 30-40 euro cheaper so im not sure if the viper still eorth it.😊
What did you end up getting? I also have the g502 and i ordered gpx (although v2 is almost the same price here)
Is that the new GSR SE in the thumbnail
if Razer comes out with a Razer Viper mini V2 Pro.... it's gonna outsell this mouse - holy shit I hope they do it
the viper is small enough already
@@DrLifeGamer making v2 pro would essentially make it wireless and more lightweight
@@DrLifeGamer not really, that's why many people are asking for the mini V2 Pro, it is almost a meme by now.
@@Yaxie they want it smaller?
@@Gadottinho No, they just want it to be wireless i guess
I don't have any experience with either mouse, but I have experience with a razer deathadder elite. I also have the same problem with the creak and squek in the scroll wheel
Hello Boardzy,
I have an issue on my g pro superlight,
I can't make micro adjustments (the LOD is too low, it's my impression), maybe the problem is about mouse feet (i use default mouse feet) or the shape ? I'm ZA12 user,
I wanted to play wireless but it's complicated, Ty for videos !
I'm definitely a aggressive claw gripper and I've always loved the viper shape I have both definitely prefer the viper but both are good