Jewish Historian Explodes Israel's Myths - w/. Zach Foster
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- Zach Foster is a fascinating guest: he hails from a strongly Zionist background, but it was through his scholarly research of Palestine that his perspective changed. We discuss the long history of Palestinians being dehumanised, why he thinks Israel makes Jewish people less safe, the history of Gaza and Hamas that's airbrushed, Israel's history of using hunger as a weapon of war, genocidal sentiments in Israel - and so much more.
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Why? He has nothing interesting to say and brings nothing to the table except "Arabs bad" @@FishAndChipsAgain
Hi Owen, pls interview Ben Shapiro on the topic "facts versus delusions". Cheers, mate.
@@RobHel...and insults. All Murray does is childish name calling and sneers, exactly because he has nothing worthwhile hearing to say, as you said.
You know what also died in Gaza? ~ The Myth of Western Humanity and Democracy ~
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for you, maybe. for me and billions of others that "myth" never existed.
@egay86292 agreed. For most of us that myth never existed. Those that for whom it only died in Gaza are part of the problem and need to examine themselves. Examine how it survived colonialism, apartheid, Vietnam, Iraq...
@@egay86292 Of course the "Myth" existed, because that was all it was, a Myth, unless you really believe the West are humane and democratic
What died is the idea that the peas full ones are peas full.
End colonialism. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
They have always been free. Wake up . Colonialism! don’t make me laugh.
@@xici319stih_KG71Ignorant statement. They were free prior to 1948.
And then came the colonizers.
@@xici319stih_KG71 There are two things that could explain what you are saying.
1. You know absolutely nothing about this topic, no real history and nothing about the present.
2. You're gaslighting.
N/A. Bots can't laugh. @@xici319stih_KG71
Norman Finkelstein has made similar points. It would cheer him to see the younger generation keeping his contributions alive.
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Yes all the older generation of truth are reaching old age 😢 noam chomsky, Ilan Pappe, Avi Shlom
Norman Finkelstein is great!
Yes, erasing identity happened all around colonial occupation of native people.
In Argentina, one century and half ago, a small group of white europeans massacred natives, taking away their lands, known as Wet Pampa, a huge track of the 5 most fertile agriculture soil on the world.
Finkelstein cheered on Oct 7
And they accuse the Palestinians of teaching they're kids hatred 🤬
from a conservative, every accusation is a confession
and israel is VERY conservative
As Norman Finklestein has said, and said plainly "They (the Palestinian people) have the right to hate the people who have ruined their lives (Israel, and it's patron, the United States)". This is undeniably a core motivation behind ALL resistance movements, and though it's not 'pretty' , it is perfectly LEGITIMATE. It is a SANE response to historic and ongoing oppression and suppression.
But, they instill textbook talmud "teachings" in their children.. 🤔..
Also,
kids are the young of goats and other farm animals;
whereas, a child- is the offspring of a man and a womb-man, ijs.. 👀!!!
IF the people of the world continue on as they have been "taught", namely,
to refer to our children as KIDS
then these qabbalah esotericist witches YES, WITCHES now ruling in all lands will continue to 👉🏾sacrifice the "kids"..
Just a thought.
Freudian projection
They think that Palestinian kids need to be taught to hate the people who kill their families.
Dr Zack Foster prouve there is still honest people in this world.
Prouve - Foster is about as an honest as Sinwar, the Hamas leader in Gaza.
@@harrydestaffano565 yes, should should prove it...
you make the claim, you provide the evidence
@@harrydestaffano565Sinwar is more honest than Netanyahu...suck it up
@@bilqis8044 Ihnen fehlt der Verstand, wenn Sie beruhigt sind.
@@harrydestaffano565zionist bot
Keep up all your fantastic reporting. Your truth shines a beacon of light for all the those who are oppressed. Thank you Owen.
You have the whole of mainstream media to get the other perspective - don't be greedy.@@Myrtle43
@@Myrtle43 gftoh we get plenty of BS reports on the other side don't need to proper gate the isreali lies.
@@Myrtle43There is only ONE side. There is only ONE race. There is only ONE TRUTH. Once an individual awakens to this, his/her life will never remain the same.
@@felixmoyoedonmi Seek help, fool. Btw…..there are 3000 gods worldwide, have you ever thought that this might be an issue. Neanderthal.
You have nearly the whole of mainstream media for the alternative view. Don't be greedy.@@Myrtle43
Why is it that most or nearly all people who are critical of Israel and what is happening in Gaza, are nice and likeable people, while most of the Israel fans and defenders are the complete opposite?
Evil supports evil 🤷♀️
because you can't conceive of an alternative viewpoint so demonise anyone who doesn't completely agree with you
Like all hamas terrorists?
Possibly because they are the true Humanitarians with a sense of Justice.
@@Captain_tubs and there's the projection, as precided, trying to conserve the status quo are we?
no, bub, that's just you, to the point of trying to criminalize speech and protest
sorry that humanity rejects your baseless assertions, we just don't care for rogue states that claim to be moral as they gaslight with blatant and obvious lies, then have to admit to those lies weeks later
you don't even know what side your bread is buttered, and you think people who have the GALL to check first are the bad guys, this is an allegory (just in case anyone does not get it)
Another thing that I imagine has died in Palestine is - the laughter of children!
This will come back soon. Despair is not in their dictionary.
That got to me!
yes. hell is our world, made by us. and to think it was a pretty much a religious/literary concept for most of history. Now its ONLY what we have made with our own turned backs.
Amazingly enough, if you follow any Palestinian creators or journalists they will say despite the horrors they are all going through they still find ways to be normal, spend time with each other...and laugh 🥹
@@briannec2016I think the adults are supporting this and it’s so important for the children to find some joy.
Election was recommended and endorsed by the US. Once Hamas won it fair and square the US refused the result of the election.
The US loves to promote itself as the defender of the free world, on the condition that foreign governance meets with its approval and supports its purpose.
Former President Jimmy Carter verified the election
Exactly, Hamas was never allowed to govern as elected officials because as soon as they won, they were then labelled as terrorist
Yes and in fact if you read the US/Israel narrative they say Hamas organised a coup to access power, how ironic that they are shown to have organised a coup while in fact thye had won the election and Fatah refused to pass on power.
@@leslie-annmills-gomez8763 yes they just weren’t given the chance to be democrats. Especially when Hamas threw Fatah members of the roof .. that really must have dashed the image of Hamas as being democratic.
Reading history of Palestinians, about so called Israel 🇮🇱 changed me & shocked me that the Palestinians were so robbed & so mishandled 🇿🇦🇿🇦👏🏿
A Plea from a child in Gaxa.
Dear world, I'm just a little one from Gaxa, where the sunsets used to be filled with laughter. But now, my family, my world, was taken away by a darkness called genocide. Please, listen to my tiny voice echoing the pain of countless children like me. We didn't ask for this sorrow; we dreamt of hugs, bedtime stories, and the warmth of family.
I plead with you, grown-ups of the world, to open your hearts. We need you to see our tears and feel our loneliness. It's not about politics or borders; it's about love and shared humanity. Let your empathy be a balm for our broken hearts. Together, we can weave a tapestry of compassion that transcends oceans and heals wounds. Please, for the sake of little ones like me, let love be louder than hate. Stand together, and let's ensure no more children face the shadows that stole my family....
Thank you for your beautiful heart wrenching words. So moving. Watch/listen to the end of Chris Hedges speech "The genocide in Gaza" on youtube which includes " A letter to the children of Gaza" - I cried with him and it inspired me to be more active.
Thank you for being a little child for a little while
We all need to humble ourselves regularly and work hard towards peace
The name is GAZA ,not Gaxa.
@@bainmarie Different keyboard layout? But we know what they are speaking about.
@@bainmariecheck out the big brain here, a spelling lesson during a discussion on genocide.
It is a horrible reality Palestinians are living and have been living under Israeli Occupation. Thank you Zack for the amazing information. It is time for people to learn the context of this occupation, the war and what really led to 7th October..
I can not imagine the trauma Palestinians must have especially children
@@leslie-annmills-gomez8763Dr Gabor Mate said there's a 2005 report that showed Palestinian children are the most traumatised children
@@itsmeagain7825No they have not ,the Israeli government control everything going in even measuring the calories each person ate, they banned stupid things like spices rice coriander potatoes,mouthwash, deodorant many items for no reason, 🤔
@@itsmeagain7825you cant self govern in the blockade gaza has been under since 05
@@Wulture but they did, Israel pulled out completely in 2005.
'They hear but not listen. They look but not see." (Matt 13:13)
“Choose not to see, in the service of demons”
faith is a root problem
The prudent man puts thought before his steps, yet the fool will fall into every hole
Proverbs 14:15
Mainstream media is a dying breed. Keep it up.
Thanks a million Owen for having everytime such brillant guest and interviews
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
We've all just been treated to a very concise but comprehensive first-class history lesson. Thank you, Zach and Owen!
Absolutely - the detail and nuance that is missing from the narrative.
Hear hear, this was an excellent program and Zach Foster is an extremely knowledgeable man. Thank you Zach and Owen for introducing him to us, it is greatly appreciated. 🕊️
You 😊
Thank you Owen for putting this out. Everyone should know the TRUTH. Thank you also Zack Foster for sharing your insight to the Palestinian issue.
Owen you’ve put all mainstream journalists to shame with this episode bravo. Thank you for having people report on what has now become obvious if we are watching and remotely interested.
Thank you Zach Forster for bringing historical facts and talking about humanity. A lot of love n blessing❤❤
I wish this could be broadcast to the whole world and everyone would have no choice but to listen so that there could be no ambiguity or misunderstanding whatsoever about the systematic and deliberate manipulation of Palestinians by israel over multiple decades and regimes. Their cynical planning of how to thwart every possible aspect of Palestinian lives would put hitler to shame. The perpetrators and enablers are evil personified.
This is why I share on Facebook. Let us all share.
My dear you could force the world to watch this an unlimited amount of times a day, and you will still never change the hardliners 😢
Owen! The way you use your platform is a becon of light. Thank you.
Henry W. Clune.....I was WAAAY off.
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Very honourable soul
YES... he's great 👍 👌
Hot damn... this guy has breath-taking knowledge on the history of Palestine. His passion and in-depth understanding of Palestine and the complexities of the Middle East has to be deeply respected. Thank you Owen for yet another very timely, elegant, and highly educational interview.
He did not present a single fact, didn't mention a single historical figure, a single historical event to back up any of his arguments and views (many of which I agree with btw!).
If this guy is a Dr. of history that did his PHD thesis on the history of Palestine academia in the US is in big trouble.
@@taboulefattouch4744 Sounds like you believe you know better than him. Go ahead and debate him. Would love to see it..
@@taboulefattouch4744He’s giving an interview, not defending his thesis. If you’re so knowledgeable and you agree with his points then he obviously has the facts to back up his claims. We the listeners are not fools.
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Forget about me and concentrate on yourself for a moment.
Can you name one historical figure or one event in Zach's 1 hour plus babbling you claim was "educational"?
@@taboulefattouch4744 all of it was educational. plus we should concentrate on you because it is YOU who has decided that you know better. if you have the time, go ahead and write out the entire transcript in the comments and break it down for us point by point...
Thank you Owen for sharing Truth to Power.
I'm so ashamed of the UK media all remaining silent.
UK media owned and run by people whose loyalties lie elsewhere
They’re really not interested any more are they? There is someone a tiny snippet on the news about the Huthis and how they are destroying our business world. I’m not even sure they have killed anyone when they have taken over the ships in the Middle East.
It's nearly ALL the Western media. Australia and America mainstream news are also bad
They aren’t silent, they think Jones is a twot.
@@lestrem11 what a wonderful erudite response. Well done for showing how ignorant you are.
This young man really knows his stuff he needs to do more interviews, he would be better in israeli parliament that anyone currently there, well done Zach, please do more interviews so people can find out more
Unfortunately he’s probably not even allowed back into Israel
Exactly the last thing they want is the truth. Just like in any authoritarian regime, the Israelis want to control the history
Like Finkelstein, Israel would declare him persona non grata, and he wouldn’t allowed in Israel.
Every guest lifts up an Israeli rock, and the horror and deceit crawling out is overwhelming. Grateful for the truth.
I wish this episode would be admissible as evidence in the ICJ. Truly amazing!
Spreading lies in the court, you mean?
@@marielouisenilsson3766 Evidence against Israel.
@@marielouisenilsson3766 Such as?
@@marielouisenilsson3766which are the lies?
@@stevenponte6655 100% of all the yada yada yada
Thank you to Zach! Very informative!!! You can see the corporate media strategy: fewer facts, more emotions.
My grandparents and great-grandparents were Indian from Bengal and we only started calling ourselves bangladeshis from 1971... That didn't mean we didn't exist or don't exist as the formation of nation-states doesn't necessarily mean you are not a people with an identity with a culture with a heritage or with a legacy or footprint in your land. Also as far as I understand with the fall of the Habsburgs there were also the emergence and newly formed nation states in Europe so therefore previously changing borders doesn't mean the people did not have a national identity heritage legacy and connection with their land.
Well said.
Correct 🤗 I'm Swiss, the first castle of the Habsburg dynasty is here in Switzerland, it's still standing and worth a visit 🏰
@@rosedudesert4389 I have never visited Switzerland but I definitely will do 🌸🙂
nationality doesnt matter, its causing the march towards nuclear wars
I agree. It's the same with the Ukrainian people. They are Ukrainians and not Russians. The Russians tried and still are trying to wipe out their language and their culture.
Another great guest, thank you!
Behind all this is one thing...greed.
Colonialism is built on greed. Yes.
Greed for land, greed for ultimate power
Why do you say that?
@@ryand141 it's been written by "elders"
War is all about money. When the US and it’s military contractors aren’t getting paid by the people of the US, the government decides to send “foreign aid”.
Great history lesson, great interview, great guest. Well done, Owen.
Thank you, Zacharia. You are well educated about palestenian history !! Not all Western historians familiar with these facts !!
The Wanted 18 is a great documentary about the village of Beit Sahour, 1987 They bought 18 cows to produce their own milk so they did not have to buy milk from Israel. They also stopped payingctaxes to Israel, their occupier. It was a peaceful attempt to assert their right for self-determination. This is also when Hamas came to be after Israel crushed the Palestinians. The cows were considered a threat to Israel's security.
Agreed! It shows how ridiculous this has been, and they are forced to live under conditions that nobody else will accept. In both Gaza and the West Bank, they have made it impossible for the Palestinians to produce enough food for themselves. Before 1948, they produced enough food to export some to other countries.
I mean... cows ARE scary.
And what about Shakespeares othello page 213 #40 “ I know a lady in Venice would have walked barefoot to Palestine for a touch of his nether lip” that’s more than 400 years ago.
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WOW WOW
Thank you for mentioning that
Netanyahu, whatever his real name is, is not alone on this rampage!
And Gaza isnt the only place being targetted by those parties currently either
Thanks again for this important interview, thanks Mr. Foster for the Honesty, that shows that there are still people with a conscience and humanity, thank you very much
Restores your faith in humanity when you see two compassionate young men like Owen & Zac...Respect
Well done Owen. Quality guest. Everyone should hear this interview.
We love you Owen, Thank you so much!!!!!!!
Great interview and fantastic guests with plenty of knowledge of Palestine 🇵🇸
Very well explained. 😊
Absolutely crucial listening. Thank you. Many answers to WHY? HOW? I wish ALL journalists were like you.
Thank you!. You always have excellent guests ❤
Thank you Owen Jones and thanks to Zack Foster...for being that honest😮
What an interesting guy Owen. Perhaps there is hope!
Human rights, liberty, and freedom aren't given on a silver platter, and they're not taken overnight.
Without hope, More than 1.5 million Palestinians in 1948 would've vanished.
Holding on to every single grain of sand on the homeland; having faith, and never giving in/giving up is what is keeping the People of Palestine alive.
If you only know how many millions of Palestinian families were broken; how many hopes and dreams were shattered; how much Palestinian blood was spilt since 1920, you'll be surprised how much Palestinians are totally in love with their homeland.
Yes, hope, hard work, knowledge and patience.
First class,thanks.
Zach is brilliant
He’s not
@@bjornjensen1309 yeah, imma go with the scohlar on this one, dawg
at least he knows the subject matter, unlike the sheep who defend ISR without a clue
@@bjornjensen1309 Feel free to dispute any point he made...
Yep, you can't challenge Zack because he's done the research and delivered the result without prejudice or grudge. I love truth always.
When this guy talked about Dahlan, I knew he's an expert an he knows the subject 👏
It’s absolutely right. For a while there, the U.S. couldn’t talk about anything except “free and fair elections.”
Right up until they got the “free and fair” results.
The Global North, led by the US, will only accept democratic elections, when it suits their purpose... Then it's free and fair. Throughout history, they have done this in Latin America, Africa, and the Indian sub continent.
Thanks Owen!
Wow this is a wonderful historian one of the few times I see someone narrate events as they are I know a large part of this history and I learned new things
Brilliant, Brilliant, Brilliant!!! Thank you Owen, thank you Zach. How informative and enlightening. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
This is really interesting. It will be great to get a video documenting how Hamas originated and evolved. It's not as one-note and evil as the West has made it out.
I think Zach is suggesting that - I agree.
It never is! And, as an American, I have come to realize that if our government says someone or something is bad, it is usually the opposite.
@oliveoil5789
That's exactly what I was telling my sister 🫶
@@princessbynature5021it's not but the west has to make us believe they're evil in order to justify their atrocities on the Pal people. Ham people are actually well educated too...their founder was a Doctor
@oliveoil5789 🌹
I heard Zach talking to DN (I think) and his knowledge and understanding was brilliant. Thanks for doing this Owen: I’m pretty sure our media has lost interest in the Palestinian horror.
I think they are scared of showing it because the public response would be overwhelming.
What a magnificent interview and interesting content! 👍👍👍
Zach Foster is a very interesting and intelligent young man
Thanks
Thank you both of you : I love see you defending the truth and justice !
Zach represents the best of humanity ❤ till we have people like Zack and Alon, there is hope 🙌🏼
Truth Speaker ❤️
Thank you to zach for the knowledge he taught us here, and thank you owen for your continuous efforts in supporting the cause.
Zach is an extremely knowledgeable and impressive person. Loads of history education here. Brilliant guest.
Very interesting. What a breadth of fresh air to hear the Palestinian side of history.
Norman Finkelstein said in one of his interviews, I think with Piers Morgan that Hamas was never given a chance.
Agenda plan
If I remember right, he said that about the youth who were growing up in Gaza - they were never given a chance to show their potential or making plans or living their dreams.
I haven’t checked in for a bit. Will catch up on your videos tomorrow. Just driving back to Melbourne from a protest in Canberra and meeting with the Greens. Only political party in Australia that supports Palestine. ALP in Australia is a joke unfortunately.
The Greens will give their preference to the ALP.
@@petermcculloch4933not if ppl fill in their voting form so that this doesn’t happen. It’s not rocket science it just takes using a bit of the old grey matter.
I went to a rally on Sunday in Brisbane. We marched from Queens Gardens to the ABC offices where we protested.. There was maybe 1500 people marching. The ABC news reported that there was a few hundred people and that we marched to Southbank.
@@brenreeves9496 I use to be a big fan of the ABC never watch the news anymore since it changed and get my news elsewhere. Not Sky News though.
@@dianacasey6002I take offence. I want to vote green, but not if the vote is sequenced up to the ALP because I refuse to vote for a party that endorses genocide.
Preferential voting doesn't mean I get to choose who the vote goes to; it means that the party gets to choose who their votes gets allocated to if they lose the vote. It gets sequenced to their choice. Greens always side with ALP
Norman Finkelstien, Historian of Palestine.....
Very interesting. Solid knowledge... Always great listening to people who really what they are talking about! Thank you Sir!
This is an amazing thank you Zack for all your wonderful knowledge thank you Owen for hosting this amazing person ❤
I just finished listening to the whole interview it's amazing thank you I would just say an explanation of genocide is this. ...Allport's Scale. Allport (1954) created a measure of prejudice in society based on events and attitudes surrounding World War II (WWII). What became known as Allport's Scale of Prejudice consists of five stages: antilocution, avoidance, discrimination, physical attack, and extermination. Society is made up of three groups withdrawers acquiescers and resisters. The silent majority of those who withdrawal and it is because of this group and those who actively support the genocide which allows this to happen.
Thank you zach so much for your knowledge and honesty and humanity.
Dr. Foster's commitment and drive to find the truth, going against ALL his conditioning is beautiful to behold... i have great, great respect for him; it affirms human values of integrity, justice and compassion in a world sorely lacking all of these❤
Thank you Owen for bringing Zach to the pod.... horrifying facts that needed to be told.
Aside: I love Zach's face. I think, "Zach got facts!" EVERY TIME I see him. My slogan for the host, "Owen be knowin!" comes with a beat in my head. It's one of the ways I cope with the depravity through which we wade.
Best to you both.
Great interview. So much interesting historical detail that gives lie to the Israeli narrative about Palestinians and more specifically the Gazans. Well done.
Dynamite conversation! We've learned so much about the place called "Israel" since Oct. 7.
Beautifully expressed!❤️🫡🫡🫡
Thank you for all you do Owen - as always, excellent reporting!
Fantastic from Zack. The truth is finally spreading across the world thanks to people like Zack
Zach Foster this information you are giving here should be spread far and wide.
A remarkable interview - Should be required viewing for all Western politicians
This guy is electric. His voice needs to be amplified. Thank you Owen for all you’re doing ❤
Thank you Owen
This was such an informative interview. Thank you
This was so insightful and educational ... great show Owen as always ...bring Zach back in the future as he is an amazing fountain of truth and knowledge ... A***
This video is packed with amazing information. I hope everyone gets to see this
Let Palestine become as the UK: A united land shared in equality and justice!
Agreed but we need to protect our democracy and society there are forces trying to divide us by increasing race prejudice.
Well done to you and to your guest
Two great men link up to give us great information. Thanks
“Truth will free you”, it is true at all times.
Thank you❤❤❤❤
Owen, your dedication and commitment to Palestine and humanity is appreciated by the 🌎majority.
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EXTRAORDINARY!!
both Zach & Owen for hosting his historical & moral expertise
thank you!
Zach and Norman Finkilstein should meet up and do a video together on this issue. BOTH are excellent on the true history.
Thanks to both of you.
MUST SAVE this clip, so nicely explained to those still saying 'withdrew from Gaza'.. BenShapiro & PMorgan should bite their tongues.
Shouldn’t a separate case be brought to the ICJ to declare Israel an Apartheid State?
All these facts need to be brought into court.
Wow...Dr Zach's passionate but clear and simple explanation of how Hamas came into being was brilliant!
Great conversation, I appreciate Zach’s clarity of history
As a progressive leftist Chinese, thanks Owen for hosting Dr. Foster!! I stand for the end of apartheid!!!! One equal state for all in Israel, as Mehdi Hasan and Ilan pappe would say.
Also it seems that Israel is basically like Sparta, highly militarized with a caste system.
I suggest you visit the place before arriving at any conclusions. You're wrong about all of it, as are Zach & Owen.
Zach is amazing! I’ve downloaded his dissertation for must reading!
Zach compares anti Palestinianism with anti semitism. Palestinians are Semites, unlike the Ashkenazi whose original language was yidish and the language of the European country from where they originated
Ashkenazim are semites.