Honestly the runs that absolutely suck are sometimes more fun to watch than the blatantly overpowered ones because you have to handle it so much differently!
@@askewmastermind1629from what I understand, he was supposed to go to void fields which is basically an extra stage of loot. Then he died corrupting his bands which loss him a lot of damage.
Imo, I think they probably made more revives for multiplayer. It sucks having to die and just watch your bud for 20-30 minutes. Heck, my friends and I will actively throw a run if one of us accidentally dies too early, just for the sake of having fun and not taking it seriously. Idk why they don't make it an artifact that resolves this issue instead. That way it's optional to opt in rather than adding more items that revive.
I’d love for them to implement something similar to RORR, where you can still pick up items as a drone, just that you cant use them. Edit: if someone that’s still alive has spare drone parts, that would be a really funny synergy.
Yeah, most of my multiplayer runs fall into to categories: we both manage to play well and beat the game, one of us dies somewhere and needs to be carried by the other one for the rest of the game (or the other person also dies). I think that, as the comment above mentions, something like the drones form rorr would be a big improvment
when race said he had a way out after pinging the sonorous whispers soup I really thought he was going to farm perfected chimeras for speed items and my eyes almost popped out of my head
I feel like RoR is adding so much accessibility, but only in one direction, refusing to add options for those who want a harder experience and only adding option for those who want easier experience. I don't know what adding harder options would look like, but a difficulty micro adjustment system like Hades would be really really cool. Like a custom eclipse mode.
Yesterday i had an excruciating cope run that finally blessed me with ignition tank printer and a fire elite aspect on stage 5,Nothing has come close to that relief in my 500 hours of playing this game
I've been watching your videos for a couple of months and decided to try out eclipse for myself. Now I'm on e7 on commando a lot faster than i thought. It's unironically a lot of fun and i like howyou explain your thought process. It really helps to understand how the game works and what is a good enough decision that can change the course of a run.
about the revive thing: i think a lot of people see ror2 as an arcade/party game with a roguelike structure, instead of a punishing traditional roguelike. So things like revives making the game easier they dont mind. I dont blame them! the game is easy compared to other roguelikes to the point where people use mods to increase difficulty. I enjoy the game as a punishing roguelike by using mods, but i cant lie the game is super easy without purposefully making it hard with mods or challenges. So it makes total sense to me that it attracts a lot of casual players that like things like revives :3
6:33 as someone who plays multiplayer often I strongly disagree. The game has been exponentially more fun to play in multiplayer due to Seeker, Seed of Life, and Shrine of Shaping. Shrine of shaping is detrimental to the stage credits, but people act like Hopoo didn't add more stuff that was way worse (wood shrines, tc280's, etc). It really makes it feel like the shrine of shaping criticism is just looking for stuff to criticize to me. (I strongly agree that Seeker's revive working in singleplayer sucks though, I cannot believe gearbox thinks that's a good idea)
I disagree back lol. The problem with multiplayer deaths is the system itself is inherently flawed, I think throwing in revives everywhere constantly is a bad bandaid solution and affects the rest of the game disproportionately. In Returns it was never an issue because the system itself allowed players to remain engaged and scaling. I also complain about the horrible interactables/stages setup and have for years alongside everyone else and somehow the shrine of shaping is by far the worst interactable that's ever been added in every degree, let me explain. Director credits are the main thing I want to touch on and the per average experience of new and old players alike across different playstyles. Director credits definitely are a can of worms and over the years of playing we've found stages/interactables are weighted generally okay, but with certain specific things they're weighted and costed very poorly in relation to the rest of the game creating unbalance on both ends of the spectrum (tc/emergency drones). Most all of the weaker runs that players experience aren't because they got the wrong items or other purchasables (usually runs average out decently well pre sots live update), it's usually because too many other interactables stood in in place of things that scale your character over time or allow your character to combat the scaling. If we look at some of the other non scaling per stage shrines and interactables like void stalks, blood shrines, and combat shrines, we can see on a macro scale we're trading in the ability to spawn more items with generally getting items faster, which attempts to combat scaling by keeping the character moving and getting gold. Sometimes the weights on these can overpower item generation and make the run more difficult, but generally they keep the player moving and scaling. Shrines of the woods and shrines of shaping are the only interactables I can think of that are focused on very short term, temporary bonuses in the place of long term effects. So the cost for these interactables is almost incurred up front the second they spawn, whether or not you buy them. Woods shrines cost 15 credits, same as chests. Shaping shrines are 50, same as a legendary chest/void seed (tied for highest cost in game), or more than 3 standard chests for reference. The 'cost' of a shaping shrine also proportionally is more when considered it can spawn on earlier stages with lower credit pools, taking up to ~1/5 of a stages total loot amount on its own. Currently in game shaping shrine stands alone when you consider both opportunity cost and short term effectiveness with no long term scaling benefit. In addition it also slaps you with a secondary hp debuff.
@ I agree that shrine of shaping is always very bad to get in singleplayer, and even multiplayer most of the time. I think it should probably be taken out of the early stage pools. However I don’t think it’s a bad thing that shrine of shaping sucks. People complain about power creep to no end, but when there’s something to counterbalance the power creep (bad shrines, tough elite types) people complain to no end and call it bad design too. Sometimes to me it feels like people want to have their cake and eat it too. As for what you said about the revives being a bandaid fix I agree, but it’s certainly better than what we had before, so I also stand by my original point. It would be great if we had a system change like the drones in Rorr, but if we can’t have that, then seed of life and seeker are a huge improvement to multiplayer considering what it was pre SOTS. I personally couldn’t imagine going back and playing multiplayer without SOTS, it’s so much more fun now.
In multiplayer the game is brutal with how the system is yes, but id rather tell gearbox about that then say eh fuck it good enough, especially when people who don't play multiplayer have categorically less enjoyable runs on average. id argue mods do plenty a better job of patching it up. but just because the experience is an inch better does not mean i want to stop advocating for a mile. And just because shrine of shaping slightly pulls back one aspect of power creep again does not mean it is worth having in the game because in my opinion its still bad design. This is the same effect, we shouldn't start just settling with something because it's very slightly pulling us in the direction we want to be in. dont settle for bandaids, look at what you desire and build upon it. what are the good things about shrine of shaping? how can we better utilize that experience towards a better solution? gearbox is listening, be vocal
Being dead in MP is the most annoying shit sometimes. No one likes sitting there, watching friends play, AND be on an item shorthand causing them to die over and over. When you can revive catching up isnt hard.
23:08 I'd say it's because you can break the Ball of Lunar Spikes they send to oblirate you, the point of is to be punishment for not paying attention to them that you can react to. The team failed in going over the other spectrum of not punishing enough, so their main function similar to Mending of being a target to prioritize before damaging others just more agreesively to you falls apart. It needs to be a duration based thing as spite can't be simply stopped by mere attacks, I can see allowing you to push it back by hitting it, espically with an on hit effect However those effects should slowly be less the effective the more time it's spent chasing you as it gets closer to ending. Here's the change: Twisted: Twisted Lunar Ball realised can no longer be shattered upon hit, It and on hit effects will knock it back, knockback is based on Total Damage.(The Lunar ball will have Rubberbanding when it goes far enough, it's where it's Projectile Speed is increased heavily to reach back to a certain distance, usually for engangement purposes, I'd say Past 50M though I maybe incorrect on how far that is) Twisted attacks apply the Lunar Ruin debuff from False Son and grant them a stack of(I can't believe the wiki didn't have the base value to atleast update the Elite descriptions or let people know the information is outdated)Spite.(I'm assuming the maximum stacks to activate the Lunar ball is 10)
I agree there are too many revives. I play a lot of multiplayer with friends and even when the Shrine of Soul is called out, I am still blissfully unaware of the fact that I can go make a silly play, die, and be just fine. And I say blissfully as if I'm not in the trenches murdering elder lemurians and gupps on some random planet I just so happened to visit. Dio's Best Friend felt rewarding because you knew in the back of your head that if you did happen to die due to being one shot or some other method that reminds you you're still a simple mortal being, you'd be coming back a little more careful. I like Goorakh's idea of adding an item that allows you to disregard revival methods in favor of more character stats because I'm feeling too spoiled with how many methods have been added.
My personal dislike for pests is mostly down to their stats. they are fast, tanky and high damage, with small hitboxes. the low credits cost adds to that a little. i understand there'more counterplay to them than wisps because you can dodge, but wisp dmg also only tickles and they usually die in 1-2 shots from any survivor
A family friends daughter is born on the 25th of december, but theyre jewish so dont deal with a lot of the Christmas traditions so she just gets a birthday
Ngl I've been doing my entire E-8 Arti climb with only flamethrower, and I love it. Sure, it takes away your "get out of jail free" card, but I actually really like the damage it can do, plus it has insane synergy with plimp and plute that really hits the spot. Well, that and stacking ignition tanks is very satisfying. Also although Seed of Life is another revive, the fact that it cuts off your equipment slot, which can be insanely powerful depending on what you find, makes it feel balanced to me (even if it is just a coping item, which I don't take anyways). I do agree shrine of shaping is cringe, though.
@quasar792 honestly I just play her like I would captain: my favorite no- mobility survivor. I never really played Arti before the climb, so I wasn't already used to having that "safe" button and played accordingly. The way I usually use it is to shoot all my M1 charges, followed by an M2, then during those cooldowns I weave in flame thrower, and repeat for pretty huge DPS. That being said, I use all 4 default abilities on her as well, so I've got good AOE and stun from M2, plus more fire go brrr. I guess just try thinking of her as a different character when using the different R's? Idk, but getting ignition tanks with flame thrower is very satisfying, and I think I mentioned it also allows her to use proc items really well for more build variety. Anywhos, good luck, and I hope I helped at least a little!
Is there actually a mod to just disable shrine of shapings? It feels genuinely awful to only get 6 items on a stage because I got unlucky and a shrine of shaping decided to spawn and steal all of my credits for that stage.
Hey race, what's the mod you're using to not getting knockback in your m2? That thing annoys me so much ever since the update. Thank you love your video
"They didn't intend for Larva to ruin builds" Actually I'm sure they did. There's a new way to revive in the game, but the payoff is that you may come back to life completely screwed. Puts into perspective why some people complain about Seed of Life but not Pluripotent Larva. Seed of Life has no downsides and some upsides compared to Dio's Best Friend, it's just broken
I thought the way you did before I asked a Hopoo dev that question, they thought it would actually make your builds better on average because they didn’t think vand was bad
I think there's a mod called Gamers of the Cracked Emoji that has some stuff interacting with revives, not that anyone should play it, for every good idea that mod has it has three bad ones
I think that a run where you would disable DLC would be refreshing, It would help show what all dlc added, and I think people will like it. You could call it OG RoR2 for the new year.
I swear to God if Race acquire either a Recycler or an Executive Card in this run again I will lose it. I will personally contact Hopoo as to why that is
I feel like there should be a way to share items between players in multiplayer. Instead of cramming in revives, allow more macro between players and give them a chance to recouperate if they died on a previous stage.
@RacesVideos After they've already died on the stage? I mean a system such as being able to give 3 items to another player per stage per player, dead or not.
Unless there is more ways in vanilla I can think of, I don't see anything wrong with the new editions of how to get revived? (Admittedly I don't like the void version of dio) but with the amount of items in the game as is, I am 90% sure that someone isn't always going to get a revive item out of the two in the game.
Man, I may not agree with all your opinions all the time , but I don’t think anyone can deny that you’re absolutely cracked at this game, good content man
I hate plarva. Cause in most runs there is no reasonable way to justify not taking it. Obviously being revived even if you're weaker is stronger than just immediately dying so its only ever not worth taking of you already have a dios. But it just feels so bad
While rng is never really a reason to a boame a loss for a feel like rng with how credits are allocated on some stages along with new stuff added in the dlc just makes some runs feel like such a slog, getting three/four items per stage can just really suck and I hate that it forces me to have to go newt altar but alas, not every character can always reach it, eh but on the other hand the bad runs makes the good runs feel all the better. Truly mixed feelings.
11:48 honestly I'd argue the Transmitter rework was complete dogshit and people only like it because of how much it saves your life, like seriously what is the actual use case for teleporting enemies away and bleeding them it even actively makes characters like Loader and Merc *worse* because 9 times out of 10 they need to get close to deal damage
I think in the case of a lot of enemies, of meleeing you and you dying, it makes sense, especially considering youre at very low hp, a time where you wouldnt want to really send it. its not the best thing in the world but its fine
@RacesVideos I can see that argument, though I think it being a prolonged effect that bleeds is still really odd. imo it should be like a decently sized explosion that knocks back enemies or smth, but I'm no game designer
@@RacesVideos I mean, imo Gloop just has two major problems: delay and never proccing. my idea for Transmitter wouldn't have the delay, and while I do think Elixers should allow low health items to activate while still keeping watches intact that's a whole different topic
Honestly the runs that absolutely suck are sometimes more fun to watch than the blatantly overpowered ones because you have to handle it so much differently!
im sorry that I don't have more of these to give you lol
@@RacesVideos suffering from success
@@RacesVideos same energy as wiping tears with a hundred dollar bill lmao
Can you explain what happened when he messed up? I genuinely don't understand what happened
@@askewmastermind1629from what I understand, he was supposed to go to void fields which is basically an extra stage of loot. Then he died corrupting his bands which loss him a lot of damage.
I like how you were literally saying how you wanted the game to be harder in the beginning and it was just like, "okay, have fun" lolol
somehow even edited down this run still felt like it took all day and made me exhausted just watching yet again, gj kami for editing a 2h+ run tho
i tried my best
currently at 4:25. we have a hardlight, kjaros and ignition tank. I cannot wait to see how this goes wrong.
I don’t know, the run where I died to fall damage in the bazaar as Acrid is definitely a contender
Let me guess, you hit the sides.
I did that like 3 times in a row one day I was so mad at myself
Imo, I think they probably made more revives for multiplayer. It sucks having to die and just watch your bud for 20-30 minutes. Heck, my friends and I will actively throw a run if one of us accidentally dies too early, just for the sake of having fun and not taking it seriously.
Idk why they don't make it an artifact that resolves this issue instead. That way it's optional to opt in rather than adding more items that revive.
I’d love for them to implement something similar to RORR, where you can still pick up items as a drone, just that you cant use them.
Edit: if someone that’s still alive has spare drone parts, that would be a really funny synergy.
Yeah, most of my multiplayer runs fall into to categories: we both manage to play well and beat the game, one of us dies somewhere and needs to be carried by the other one for the rest of the game (or the other person also dies). I think that, as the comment above mentions, something like the drones form rorr would be a big improvment
when race said he had a way out after pinging the sonorous whispers soup I really thought he was going to farm perfected chimeras for speed items and my eyes almost popped out of my head
I feel like RoR is adding so much accessibility, but only in one direction, refusing to add options for those who want a harder experience and only adding option for those who want easier experience. I don't know what adding harder options would look like, but a difficulty micro adjustment system like Hades would be really really cool. Like a custom eclipse mode.
its really tough, but they're following the money unfortunately
i think a corruption system like how across the obelisk does it would be really cool for ror2
Yesterday i had an excruciating cope run that finally blessed me with ignition tank printer and a fire elite aspect on stage 5,Nothing has come close to that relief in my 500 hours of playing this game
I've been watching your videos for a couple of months and decided to try out eclipse for myself. Now I'm on e7 on commando a lot faster than i thought. It's unironically a lot of fun and i like howyou explain your thought process. It really helps to understand how the game works and what is a good enough decision that can change the course of a run.
I’ve got some conflicting opinions here, but I definitely agree that Transmitter is flat out broken and should be nerfed somehow.
that's okay, not everyone has to agree with me I understand I can come off very opinionated these days (✿◡‿◡)
about the revive thing: i think a lot of people see ror2 as an arcade/party game with a roguelike structure, instead of a punishing traditional roguelike. So things like revives making the game easier they dont mind.
I dont blame them! the game is easy compared to other roguelikes to the point where people use mods to increase difficulty. I enjoy the game as a punishing roguelike by using mods, but i cant lie the game is super easy without purposefully making it hard with mods or challenges. So it makes total sense to me that it attracts a lot of casual players that like things like revives :3
unfortunately theres truth in this, its just not the game a lot of us kinda want it to be and that's okay
30:00 the void reaver h0sting is funny as shit
6:33 as someone who plays multiplayer often I strongly disagree. The game has been exponentially more fun to play in multiplayer due to Seeker, Seed of Life, and Shrine of Shaping.
Shrine of shaping is detrimental to the stage credits, but people act like Hopoo didn't add more stuff that was way worse (wood shrines, tc280's, etc). It really makes it feel like the shrine of shaping criticism is just looking for stuff to criticize to me.
(I strongly agree that Seeker's revive working in singleplayer sucks though, I cannot believe gearbox thinks that's a good idea)
I disagree back lol. The problem with multiplayer deaths is the system itself is inherently flawed, I think throwing in revives everywhere constantly is a bad bandaid solution and affects the rest of the game disproportionately. In Returns it was never an issue because the system itself allowed players to remain engaged and scaling. I also complain about the horrible interactables/stages setup and have for years alongside everyone else and somehow the shrine of shaping is by far the worst interactable that's ever been added in every degree, let me explain.
Director credits are the main thing I want to touch on and the per average experience of new and old players alike across different playstyles. Director credits definitely are a can of worms and over the years of playing we've found stages/interactables are weighted generally okay, but with certain specific things they're weighted and costed very poorly in relation to the rest of the game creating unbalance on both ends of the spectrum (tc/emergency drones). Most all of the weaker runs that players experience aren't because they got the wrong items or other purchasables (usually runs average out decently well pre sots live update), it's usually because too many other interactables stood in in place of things that scale your character over time or allow your character to combat the scaling.
If we look at some of the other non scaling per stage shrines and interactables like void stalks, blood shrines, and combat shrines, we can see on a macro scale we're trading in the ability to spawn more items with generally getting items faster, which attempts to combat scaling by keeping the character moving and getting gold. Sometimes the weights on these can overpower item generation and make the run more difficult, but generally they keep the player moving and scaling. Shrines of the woods and shrines of shaping are the only interactables I can think of that are focused on very short term, temporary bonuses in the place of long term effects. So the cost for these interactables is almost incurred up front the second they spawn, whether or not you buy them. Woods shrines cost 15 credits, same as chests. Shaping shrines are 50, same as a legendary chest/void seed (tied for highest cost in game), or more than 3 standard chests for reference. The 'cost' of a shaping shrine also proportionally is more when considered it can spawn on earlier stages with lower credit pools, taking up to ~1/5 of a stages total loot amount on its own. Currently in game shaping shrine stands alone when you consider both opportunity cost and short term effectiveness with no long term scaling benefit. In addition it also slaps you with a secondary hp debuff.
@ I agree that shrine of shaping is always very bad to get in singleplayer, and even multiplayer most of the time. I think it should probably be taken out of the early stage pools. However I don’t think it’s a bad thing that shrine of shaping sucks. People complain about power creep to no end, but when there’s something to counterbalance the power creep (bad shrines, tough elite types) people complain to no end and call it bad design too. Sometimes to me it feels like people want to have their cake and eat it too.
As for what you said about the revives being a bandaid fix I agree, but it’s certainly better than what we had before, so I also stand by my original point. It would be great if we had a system change like the drones in Rorr, but if we can’t have that, then seed of life and seeker are a huge improvement to multiplayer considering what it was pre SOTS. I personally couldn’t imagine going back and playing multiplayer without SOTS, it’s so much more fun now.
In multiplayer the game is brutal with how the system is yes, but id rather tell gearbox about that then say eh fuck it good enough, especially when people who don't play multiplayer have categorically less enjoyable runs on average. id argue mods do plenty a better job of patching it up. but just because the experience is an inch better does not mean i want to stop advocating for a mile. And just because shrine of shaping slightly pulls back one aspect of power creep again does not mean it is worth having in the game because in my opinion its still bad design. This is the same effect, we shouldn't start just settling with something because it's very slightly pulling us in the direction we want to be in. dont settle for bandaids, look at what you desire and build upon it. what are the good things about shrine of shaping? how can we better utilize that experience towards a better solution? gearbox is listening, be vocal
@ I agree. I just hate to be pessimistic
its not pessimism to strive for a better future
I really really like Goorakh's idea of that lunar that gives buffs for each revive and disables them can we make that a reality please
I am so happy to see a good proper cope run, they are quite enjoyable and interesting to see you truly put your skill to the test
Being dead in MP is the most annoying shit sometimes. No one likes sitting there, watching friends play, AND be on an item shorthand causing them to die over and over. When you can revive catching up isnt hard.
23:08 I'd say it's because you can break the Ball of Lunar Spikes they send to oblirate you, the point of is to be punishment for not paying attention to them that you can react to.
The team failed in going over the other spectrum of not punishing enough, so their main function similar to Mending of being a target to prioritize before damaging others just more agreesively to you falls apart.
It needs to be a duration based thing as spite can't be simply stopped by mere attacks, I can see allowing you to push it back by hitting it, espically with an on hit effect However those effects should slowly be less the effective the more time it's spent chasing you as it gets closer to ending.
Here's the change:
Twisted: Twisted Lunar Ball realised can no longer be shattered upon hit, It and on hit effects will knock it back, knockback is based on Total Damage.(The Lunar ball will have Rubberbanding when it goes far enough, it's where it's Projectile Speed is increased heavily to reach back to a certain distance, usually for engangement purposes, I'd say Past 50M though I maybe incorrect on how far that is)
Twisted attacks apply the Lunar Ruin debuff from False Son and grant them a stack of(I can't believe the wiki didn't have the base value to atleast update the Elite descriptions or let people know the information is outdated)Spite.(I'm assuming the maximum stacks to activate the Lunar ball is 10)
I love turning around these kinda runs.
the run started with bison steak, it was cursed from the start
watching race dance around that tp knurl because he knows there isnt another equipment barrel so he has to pick it up is silently hilarious
21:29 Missed a second Legendary Chest?
nope bug
I agree there are too many revives. I play a lot of multiplayer with friends and even when the Shrine of Soul is called out, I am still blissfully unaware of the fact that I can go make a silly play, die, and be just fine. And I say blissfully as if I'm not in the trenches murdering elder lemurians and gupps on some random planet I just so happened to visit. Dio's Best Friend felt rewarding because you knew in the back of your head that if you did happen to die due to being one shot or some other method that reminds you you're still a simple mortal being, you'd be coming back a little more careful. I like Goorakh's idea of adding an item that allows you to disregard revival methods in favor of more character stats because I'm feeling too spoiled with how many methods have been added.
My personal dislike for pests is mostly down to their stats. they are fast, tanky and high damage, with small hitboxes. the low credits cost adds to that a little. i understand there'more counterplay to them than wisps because you can dodge, but wisp dmg also only tickles and they usually die in 1-2 shots from any survivor
Absolute Cinema
A family friends daughter is born on the 25th of december, but theyre jewish so dont deal with a lot of the Christmas traditions so she just gets a birthday
Ngl I've been doing my entire E-8 Arti climb with only flamethrower, and I love it. Sure, it takes away your "get out of jail free" card, but I actually really like the damage it can do, plus it has insane synergy with plimp and plute that really hits the spot. Well, that and stacking ignition tanks is very satisfying.
Also although Seed of Life is another revive, the fact that it cuts off your equipment slot, which can be insanely powerful depending on what you find, makes it feel balanced to me (even if it is just a coping item, which I don't take anyways). I do agree shrine of shaping is cringe, though.
any tips on how to use the flamethrower? I want to use it more because its fun but the ion surge is just too good to pass on
@quasar792 honestly I just play her like I would captain: my favorite no- mobility survivor. I never really played Arti before the climb, so I wasn't already used to having that "safe" button and played accordingly.
The way I usually use it is to shoot all my M1 charges, followed by an M2, then during those cooldowns I weave in flame thrower, and repeat for pretty huge DPS.
That being said, I use all 4 default abilities on her as well, so I've got good AOE and stun from M2, plus more fire go brrr.
I guess just try thinking of her as a different character when using the different R's? Idk, but getting ignition tanks with flame thrower is very satisfying, and I think I mentioned it also allows her to use proc items really well for more build variety.
Anywhos, good luck, and I hope I helped at least a little!
getting shrine of shaping two stages in a row is the worst feeling ever
Is there actually a mod to just disable shrine of shapings? It feels genuinely awful to only get 6 items on a stage because I got unlucky and a shrine of shaping decided to spawn and steal all of my credits for that stage.
Hey race, what's the mod you're using to not getting knockback in your m2? That thing annoys me so much ever since the update. Thank you love your video
29:27 was that echo?
I had one of these runs with not reworked items, they are a slog but winning them is so satisfying
"They didn't intend for Larva to ruin builds"
Actually I'm sure they did. There's a new way to revive in the game, but the payoff is that you may come back to life completely screwed.
Puts into perspective why some people complain about Seed of Life but not Pluripotent Larva. Seed of Life has no downsides and some upsides compared to Dio's Best Friend, it's just broken
I thought the way you did before I asked a Hopoo dev that question, they thought it would actually make your builds better on average because they didn’t think vand was bad
Some times it all goes wrong but time still doesn't matter
I think there's a mod called Gamers of the Cracked Emoji that has some stuff interacting with revives, not that anyone should play it, for every good idea that mod has it has three bad ones
I think that a run where you would disable DLC would be refreshing, It would help show what all dlc added, and I think people will like it. You could call it OG RoR2 for the new year.
20:49 Race villager noise
At 24:16 I saw one frame of race dying and got an ad XDDDDDDD
i cannot fucking wait for hyper light breaker
I swear to God if Race acquire either a Recycler or an Executive Card in this run again I will lose it.
I will personally contact Hopoo as to why that is
I feel like there should be a way to share items between players in multiplayer. Instead of cramming in revives, allow more macro between players and give them a chance to recouperate if they died on a previous stage.
It’s called leaving an item on the ground for your friend lol
@RacesVideos After they've already died on the stage? I mean a system such as being able to give 3 items to another player per stage per player, dead or not.
Obviously I agree, returns was much better for this, but doesn’t mean someone is immediately out if you focus to help them next stage
Unless there is more ways in vanilla I can think of, I don't see anything wrong with the new editions of how to get revived? (Admittedly I don't like the void version of dio) but with the amount of items in the game as is, I am 90% sure that someone isn't always going to get a revive item out of the two in the game.
dios, plarva, seed of life, shaping shrine, bottled chaos, and seeker lol
I'd be so down for more lunars, lunars are my favorite item tier
Man, I may not agree with all your opinions all the time , but I don’t think anyone can deny that you’re absolutely cracked at this game, good content man
I just had a run like this, I managed in the end but the moon took me 45 mins
I hate plarva. Cause in most runs there is no reasonable way to justify not taking it. Obviously being revived even if you're weaker is stronger than just immediately dying so its only ever not worth taking of you already have a dios. But it just feels so bad
22:20
why is purity here? /genq
While rng is never really a reason to a boame a loss for a feel like rng with how credits are allocated on some stages along with new stuff added in the dlc just makes some runs feel like such a slog, getting three/four items per stage can just really suck and I hate that it forces me to have to go newt altar but alas, not every character can always reach it, eh but on the other hand the bad runs makes the good runs feel all the better. Truly mixed feelings.
improper credit rates have been problems for years but never as bad as they are now with the shaping shrine, been horrible
Can we see your hardest fought W of all time?
probably lost to time at this point, but it was probably no speed, no feather, captain on umbral
11:48 honestly I'd argue the Transmitter rework was complete dogshit and people only like it because of how much it saves your life, like seriously what is the actual use case for teleporting enemies away and bleeding them it even actively makes characters like Loader and Merc *worse* because 9 times out of 10 they need to get close to deal damage
I think in the case of a lot of enemies, of meleeing you and you dying, it makes sense, especially considering youre at very low hp, a time where you wouldnt want to really send it. its not the best thing in the world but its fine
@RacesVideos I can see that argument, though I think it being a prolonged effect that bleeds is still really odd. imo it should be like a decently sized explosion that knocks back enemies or smth, but I'm no game designer
so like genesis loop without the knockback lol, one of the most disliked items in the game lol
@@RacesVideos I mean, imo Gloop just has two major problems: delay and never proccing. my idea for Transmitter wouldn't have the delay, and while I do think Elixers should allow low health items to activate while still keeping watches intact that's a whole different topic
Unrelated but I have a 100+ hours in the game and I still haven't unlocked Rex, do you recommend doing it?
yeah
RACE UPLOAF
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i love how everytime i click on a race video im guaranteed to have at least 5 minutes of bitching about the DLC. so awesome
hey gotta pass the time somehow
Proof ror2 is a game of skill
Decided to stop watching at about 19 mins. Are you looking for criticism? I don't want to give it unsolicited.
Do you like rubix cubes
Wow thays crazy abput the 4x4