Instead of tape and drape, I used Press and Seal (find on the grocery aisle with plastic wrap, wax paper and such). The bonus to me of using that was the ability to cover dome lights that I didn't want to remove to reattach the headliner.
I bought new headliner material and removed my headliner and removed the old fabric and foam. I purchased the 3M super 77 adhesive for fabric. Applied it to the headliner board and to the back of the fabric and let it tack up. Re installed head liner and two days later its sagging now. What should I do to fix this?
In hind sight you are right. BUT….. I wasn’t willing to risk getting that spray all over everything. Imagine cleaning that off everything! 😱 A little prep goes a long ways in final cleanup and the finished product.
Of course you can. After removing, use a shop vac with the bristle attachment to vacuum as much of the insulation off as you can. There will always be some left. My son did this to a super a cheap car he had in high school. Every time anyone bumped the ceiling insulation would fall. He also sprayed it with spray paint to try to get it to stop doing that but it didn’t work so well. Another spray might do better. Try PlastiDip maybe. 👌🏼👍🏼
You’ll likely have to take it down and reapply the whole thing. You could do half at a time but not sure if that would be easier or harder. Maybe someone else can comment on that? Hope you get some good advice on that one.
Being a youtuber is harder than you think. I lived through it and I'm stronger because of defending my actions in a public setting. I use a mask when I'm doing large projects thats for sure. Easy to judge someone over the internet isn't it?
Thanks for the video. Looks good. Here is a tip for others. If you follow instructions on the can to keep spray nozzles a foot or so away from surface, it then "spiderweb's" and is way taker and won't be as quick to saturate cloth. End result is less bleed thru spots.
Thank you Troy. My little Volvo suffers from 112* sun this last summer. The headliner above the drivers seat is falling down. I had the sunroof cracked open too. I have the visor pushed forward so I don't have to look at it. I'm going to fix it myself. I'm 68, and a grandmother of 7, but I'm going to try. I asked one of my sons to fix it for me and he said to look it up on UA-cam and fix it. So here I am. Thanks again.
Honestly it's starting to come loose again, but only in a few small spots. I think I didn't get enough of the sticky stuff across both surfaces. I have one spot on the drivers side basically same location that's starting to come off as well now. Might be time to revisit this and fix both again.
I too used the 3M Headliner Adhesive as well. However, you need to let it try at least 5 minutes or it will soak through the fabric. I used plastic kitchen wrap to protect the window and plastic trash bags to protect the upholstery underneath. I was able to use my fingers to smooth out the fabric pretty well but the spoon is a nice touch.
dont use super glue its a total waste of time ,it gets brittle in no time also it will be setting as you are trying to get the liner into position ,and also if the super glue gets on your hands or finger tops then the fun really begins ,, good luck
Loctite makes good stuff but the 3M product is excellent. You could also use a dauber with a cotton type tip (about the size of a grape) for smaller applications. Spray that and apply. It’s good to DIY!
If the backing foam is degraded, use the spoon to remove old foam first. Even if it is just the first inch or so. I will be doing this too. I've done entire headliners before and I'd rather do the stitch in time! Good video. I concur!
Good Pro tip right there! It’s just now starting to come down again in the same spot (lasted 5 years) and in one new spot. I’ll do this same repair but add the foam removal too. Should last another 5+ years! Thanks man! 🙌🏼
I've got the exact same problem on my 2004 Silverado. Mine is hanging down on the driver's side by the door. Thanks a ton for the info on this. I can finally stop seeing this thing flapping in the wind. 🙂
You've inspired me, I'm gonna try this to fix my '04 Explorer that's sagging in the same spot. Question though: Any particular reason you went with a "general purpose" spray adhesive (the Loctite) vice using a dedicated headliner adhesive, such as 3M's 38808 Headliner and Fabric Adhesive? I'm no expert, just wondering.
Instead of doing it in a one time attempt, you should instead start from the internal area where it isn't adhered and work your to the edge,stretching it out as you work your way to the edge, also don't over apply the spray, you'll saturate the fabric and can end up allowing the subtance to surface which will compromise the material texture and feel, you want it 30% under the material if that makes semse
Wow how timely for me. I have the same color headliner but it's on the driver side and I have to scrunch down to see a traffic signal, unless of course I'm 40-50 feet from the signal, not cool, right? Anyway going out 2morrow and getting those products. Thanks.
Cheers mate I've been through a few tutorials on this and yours is the best and no fluffing around. You contributed to a Mercedes in New Zealand getting some TLC.
I have a 2006 bmw 325i and I was about to pay to have somebody repair this for me . Mines is coming off in the same exact spot just near my back window . Definitely appreciated this quick and easy DIY ! New subscriber ! 🤗
I buy this spray adhesive in bulk. I use a lot of it. However I would NOT recommend it for a headliner. As the can says "strong initial tack". Strong at first then not so much.. It dries and becomes a powder unless you load a lot if it on. The instuctions says it is "more permant bond" if you use a heavy spray. The problem is also the way the headliner is made. It is a 1/8" foam that is heat bonded to the fabric. No glue in the headliner itsself. The fabric is heat fused to the foam. Once that heat bonded layer of foam starts to degrade and turns to dust the fabric breaks loose and falls away. If you spray glue onto a foam thats turning to dust it will pull layers of foam off one after the other. You can't glue to dust no matter how good your glue is. I once used a piece of fabric blanket material from Joanns fabrics. Basically a blanket with no foam. I used foam upholstery glue and glued it to the cleaned head shell. It never came off again. Heat bonded headliner fabric is junk. Try not to use it if possible. And use something like 3M 99 spray adhesive if you only want to do it once..
You say all that, however 3 years later when I sold the truck it was still holding strong. In fact I repaired the drivers side the same way almost a year before I sold the truck. I still see the truck every once in a while around town. Still going strong with well over 310k miles.
I know it was pretty straight forward, but I'm getting ready to do the headliner on my 01 Suburban tomorrow, and I would have never thought to use the spoon trick. Thanks man!
Troy, I watched your video and you did a good job. I just would have liked to see you wearing a maskj because there surely was some overspray getting in your face. Not good for you!
Worked GREAT - Thanks for Sharing!! It is so much better! Check your spray for length of time waiting. I used high not medium - because I had a can already and it was only 15 seconds.
Thank you vary much, the auto detailing shop in my area told me to use a stapler, or they can charge me $349.00 to redo my entire headline in my 04 Cherokee, this looks like a much better fix.
@@drfreud65 I got the same quote until they asked if it had a sliding moon roof. The price shot up higher with the moon roof because of all the extra work required to remove the moon roof to replace the headliner on its cover.
I just bought a 1999 Ram Sport about a month ago, this very thing just happened a couple of days ago. I subbed and will look forward to all things Ram Sport 1500! Thanks for the uploads!
That's awesome, you will love that truck! I have a couple vids in the planning phase now. Hope to film this weekend and post next week. Thanks for subbing!
Omg thank you!!! I inherited my grandmother's 2007 Town and Country van and the headliner is starting to come down near the windshield. My darling idiot wanted to duct tape it back up. No pun intended, but I came unglued. He's not allowed to trash my van like he did his truck.
Great video. Only trouble is we have Selley's spray adhesive (Bunnings Hardware) in Australia (Not Loctite) which is particularly unreliable for this application according to a review I read.
For anyone who's interested, in really bad cases, you can go "brute force" and remove the fabric altogether. I say brute force because it requires removing the entire ceiling. The ceiling foam on my old Chrysler Town and Country minivan was dissolving so badly nothing would stick to it. I mean, it would stick, but then the foam-along with wads of glue-would just crumble into the now sagging fabric and make an awful mess when the wind blew in. So... • I took out the ceiling and set it on a couple of sawhorses. (Harder than it seems. There are all kinds of electrical and AC connections up there.) • Brushed / scraped away every bit of foam. This left a fibrous kind of texture. Fine by me. • Spray painted it a nice flat gray to make it as inconspicuous as possible. (I considered doing a kind of Sistine chapel type thing, but nixed the idea.) • Reinstalled it. Boom done. I had the van for a good decade after that, and not one single person ever realized it should have had a fabric ceiling. Worked great, and no more crumbling foam worries.
Agreed with the term brute force! That is a big job. Hopefully most people find my video and fix theirs before that task is ever needed! This fix I did lasted 6 years before the drivers side started doing the same thing. I used this same fix on that side then sold the truck. I still see the truck over a year later and the headliner is still holding! Catch it soon enough and this fix is “permanent”.
Thank yo so much; packing tape isn't working so well and my headliner is almost completely down, I can't even see out my back window. I wish I had seen this when it looked like your headliner.
You're so welcome! And yeah, getting it fixed before it becomes a huge issue is much easier. Hope people learn from your mistake. Thanks for taking time to comment.
This is starting to happen on my 1999 dodge ram 1500. Same spot to, right above the visor front edge. Great info and video explaining what to do and to save money. Subbed
Just this spring it has begun to pull away again. The repair lasted for several years. I have one more spot on the drivers side doing the same thing. I’m going to hit both sides again and hope for several more years before it needs it again. 🙌🏼🕺🏼
How come no one talks about how much these things cost? Permatex is $25 bucks at O'Reilly's, no idea elsewhere...why don't you address this obvious factor?
link to the Loctite spray adhesive used in this video is to Amazon for $23.50 - amzn.to/2o8ACbn. This is a cheap fix if you catch it early it will save you hundreds later. No brainer DIY weekend project.
Hi Troy… I just saw your video and it’s November 3rd 2022.. I need to repair my headliner as well as the side door vinyl. The passenger door vinyl has suddenly become loose at the free edge part of the door. It is loose all the way to the window handles. The vehicle is a 2001 Beetle.. she has seen better days but i refuse to let her go. She still gets me around town and I just have had her so long that i can’t give up on her. She has some issues that i am working on but i want to try to repair the inside things myself. Do you think the same method will work for the door vinyl? My fabric is very loose also in my headliner but i’m gonna try what you suggest. Should i buy a different spray adhesive for the vinyl part on the door? Thank you for any suggestions.. Lisa ( you might not even see my comment because this is an older video but i’m giving it a shot anyway) I have nobody to help me fix it but myself so i’m doing this so my poor little beetle looks better.. i know i must sound nuts but that car has been with me over 20 years and i can’t imagine her ending up in a junk yard.. she isn’t worth anything to anyone but to me she is my car and a part of my life for so long.. she needs to be pretty inside !
The same adhesive spray will work for both. Just spray both surfaces and let it dry enough to get tacky to the touch, then press them together. They should grab and hold right away. The fumes can be a little strong so be in a well ventilated area and try not to directly breath the fumes. You don't sound nuts to me! The truck in this video was mine for 16 years and I personally put over 240,000 miles on it. I did finally sell it 2 months ago and the headliner fix was still holding strong! You got this! 🙌
Having this issue in my1st Gen Tundra, want to stop it before I have to remove the whole thing and do a complete fabric replacement. Nice tip about using the spoon to smoothing the fabric.
Did it work? Mine held for 5 years, I did the same fix on the drivers side 3.5 years later and both were holding strong when I sold the truck last year! All the nay sayers and go away! haha
Big deal. You reglued the front edge. Now show us how to fix it when the whole headliner is drooping down on the cab. And, not all headliners are molded so all you have to do is take down the molded board and recover it.
There are other videos showing the whole process. I’m trying to show how to keep from having that major repair. I’ll watch for your video to come out and show me how it’s supposed to be done! 🤪🤛🏼
I already tried that bullshit Loctite crap. It doesn't work, and is sagging more than ever. The heat affects the glue and it falls apart a second time. Go back to the drawing board as I have to do.
Your liner must have been more deteriorated than mine. This solved it for 3+ years and I did the exact same fix on the drivers side right before selling the truck. New owner comes by every once in a while. Still holding strong! 🤷🏼♂️
Keep in mind this isn't a "restoration" but a "keep it from tearing away further" job. The truck had 285,000 miles on it at this point. I sold the truck at 309,000 miles 3 years later and this fix was still holding. On the protect your lungs thing.... if you do this stuff for a living and expose yourself daily then YES please protect yourself. I had plenty of ventilation and didn't even get a contact high from the fumes. Everybody needs to relax! Putting your stuff out for the world to see isn't easy. So I guess you're welcome!
Since it's the foam, between the fabric and the core headliner, that is deteriorating, and not the original adhesive, what keeps the residual foam from deteriorating more--and coming loose again? I'm thinking that it might be a good idea to sand off all the remaining foam from the core headliner (especially at the edge) before applying the adhesive. Your video is a little over a year old now. Do you still have the car? If so, how has this fix held up? Thanks for the video!
18 months and still holding strong. No new areas coming loose either. I still drive with my windows down all the time. I’m sure in worse cases you would need to take more drastic measures. But catch it early and avoid that mess. Good luck with yours. Hope it’s not worse than mine and needing more than this simple fix. 👍🏼
What about if your headliner is falling down everywhere almost and stained with the brown nasty sticky stuff cause of my 5 year old autistic son that loves to mess with everything and is a terrorizer smh lol! So how to get the stains off of it after or before putting it back on?
Sounds like a total replacement is needed for yours. Sorry that's not more helpful but if it's destroyed there's not much you can do. Gotta catch it early.
Gonna try this with my mustang, it's been sagging a little in the back right corner of the seat & I never knew how to fix it but I've had a few friends seen it & I felt embarrassed asf 😂 hopefully I'll get to somehow fix the whole back cause it looks like there might be a little bit of a rip so I might not get the whole thing but we'll see, appreciate you for showing this to everyone dawg frr
Hopefully you can save it or at least extend its useful life a little longer. Sound like yours is much worse than mine was. Post your results here. I’d like to hear how it goes. 🙌🏼
Lots of corner cutting and cost savings taking place in the auto industry over the years. I know they have the tech to build a vehicle that would last decades but that doesn’t make them money. 🤷🏼♂️🤮
This repair lasted me 5 additional years with NOTHING else to do to it. I then sold the truck and still see it from time to time around town. Headliner still intact! If you do it "good enough" and before it's completely destroyed this fix works!!!! Not everything is a waste of time and money. If it got bad enough I would have replaced the whole thing and not messed with it.
I appreciate that! But you can rest assured all my NFL crap is GONE. So tired of the political garbage being shoved in our faces all the time. I haven't watched a single snap of NFL football since the Steelers made Villanueva hold a press conference apoligizing for watching the National Anthem with his hand over his heart while he sang along! Yup it's that big of a deal to me! I'm done with the NFL!
Only for those who have it tearing along the edge - my past 3 vehicles that did this did it in the middle -as my current new used truck has now - oh wrll
You aren’t wrong. But this was 6 years ago way before respirators we’re even invented! Kidding of course, but when the camera is on it’s easy to just get excited and keep going. It’s harder than you think to put your work out there for the world to critique. So many keyboard OSHA inspectors out there! Read the comments. Hahaha. Too much government! 😜
Appreciate the concern. I’m fine. I held my breath through as much as I could. I’m much smarter about stuff like this now. But I assure you this wasn’t nearly as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Doing UA-cam and putting yourself out there is risky business and it’s harder than most people think.
Am I mind took headlining out of the car talking about 10 minutes and his girlfriend brushed all the loose foam off and glued material back on, it took like an hour and the whole thing was done. It didn't come back off and U had car for few years after fixing. I don't know why this video has random me come up for me to watch but anybody reading this comment it's very easy to take the headlining out of the car and glue it properly yourself. Cheers Graham
Sorry to say but you’ll have to take the whole thing down and out. You have to get adhesive on both the fabric and the backing then carefully line it up to get it just right. I have seen a couple of videos out there but if I remember right they replaced the fabric when they did it. That would be easier than trying to line up an already cut to size piece.
When the headliner is falling down badly enough the best fix is to tear it all down and replace it. I’ve torn one out before and just left it out. Not perfect but better than what it looked like. (It was about a $400 car LOL)
Spray adhesive didn't stick, the backer board is flaking and not sticking to the cloth... I tried some thumb tax... No luck either.... ????? Frustrating!!!!
How often are you looking at or touching your headliner in that spot? 🤪 Seriously though. If your vehicle that’s falling apart means that much you won’t be happy with any fix. This is why I don’t do work for anyone else. You just can’t please everyone. You should try to be nicer. Nothing constructive to say, don’t say anything at all. 🤨🤦🏼♂️
People keep saying the 3M Headliner Adhesive is also good. Here's a link to it if you'd rather try it - amzn.to/2rWQAtA
You did a good job buddy thanks for sharing
That link is no good anymore, sends you to a different product.
Gotta get that affiliate link in there!...however 3 years later it appears to be rear view mirror glue. :D
Awesome tip. About. The spoon. And of course as well as everything. Else. Thank you
Instead of tape and drape, I used Press and Seal (find on the grocery aisle with plastic wrap, wax paper and such). The bonus to me of using that was the ability to cover dome lights that I didn't want to remove to reattach the headliner.
PRO TIP!!!!! Thanks for the idea!
BRILLIANT!!! thank you - and best of all many of us have it on hand!
Whew... I almost just paid someone to repair this. lol
Going to Home Depot now. Thanx
Did it work?
My caddies saggin and my jimmys flappin! Thanks for the how to!! 👍🏽👍🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
You made it look easy.
Get yourself a huge spoon and go after it! Full send! 🕺🏼🤷🏼♂️😜
The spoon is a really smart idea did you learn that trick from someone who does headliners lol
No, I was struggling with what “tool” would make this task easier. It came to me as I was eating a bowl of cereal. Cinnamon Life Cereal in fact! 😝
@@troysgarage Cinnamon Life.
The 💣.
Wouldn’t a credit card work better for smoothing out the fabric?
Amazing
It looks good. Will try this soon
Please do!
Excellent.
Than you sir!!!! 🕺🏼🏆
I bought new headliner material and removed my headliner and removed the old fabric and foam. I purchased the 3M super 77 adhesive for fabric. Applied it to the headliner board and to the back of the fabric and let it tack up. Re installed head liner and two days later its sagging now. What should I do to fix this?
I did this too. But after a couple months it started failing again. Did you experience the same thing? And if so did you determine a solution? Thanks.
Mine is only just now starting to come loose again. I haven’t messed with it yet. Not sure exactly what I’ll do about it this time. 🤨🤷🏼♂️
The seam in back of the canvas car roof top outside has come undone. What should I use?
I’ve never had to fix an exterior soft top. Maybe another viewer has ideas.
U went a little over board didn’t really need all that plastic. Just a few sprays would had been fine lol
In hind sight you are right. BUT….. I wasn’t willing to risk getting that spray all over everything. Imagine cleaning that off everything! 😱 A little prep goes a long ways in final cleanup and the finished product.
Can i just remove the entire headliner ?
Of course you can. After removing, use a shop vac with the bristle attachment to vacuum as much of the insulation off as you can. There will always be some left.
My son did this to a super a cheap car he had in high school. Every time anyone bumped the ceiling insulation would fall. He also sprayed it with spray paint to try to get it to stop doing that but it didn’t work so well. Another spray might do better. Try PlastiDip maybe. 👌🏼👍🏼
What if it's sagging in the middle, not at the edges?
You’ll likely have to take it down and reapply the whole thing. You could do half at a time but not sure if that would be easier or harder. Maybe someone else can comment on that? Hope you get some good advice on that one.
Don’t spray adhesives in confined spaces is my thoughts
Being a youtuber is harder than you think. I lived through it and I'm stronger because of defending my actions in a public setting. I use a mask when I'm doing large projects thats for sure. Easy to judge someone over the internet isn't it?
@@troysgarage no reason to encourage people to risk their health
Protected your windshield, but not your lungs!
Thanks for the video. Looks good. Here is a tip for others. If you follow instructions on the can to keep spray nozzles a foot or so away from surface, it then "spiderweb's" and is way taker and won't be as quick to saturate cloth. End result is less bleed thru spots.
Thank you Troy. My little Volvo suffers from 112* sun this last summer. The headliner above the drivers seat is falling down. I had the sunroof cracked open too. I have the visor pushed forward so I don't have to look at it. I'm going to fix it myself. I'm 68, and a grandmother of 7, but I'm going to try. I asked one of my sons to fix it for me and he said to look it up on UA-cam and fix it. So here I am. Thanks again.
You got this! 🙌🏼
What a nice grandson you have there🤦🤦🤦
Oh, man. My volvo too. It was garage car for the first 15 years of its life now its in the summer heat, and boy, is it taking a beating
@@fernandosanfranciscoca9278 nope that was her son, who needs to man up
Yo!!! Since it's been 3 years or more since you made your repair...how long did it last?
Honestly it's starting to come loose again, but only in a few small spots. I think I didn't get enough of the sticky stuff across both surfaces. I have one spot on the drivers side basically same location that's starting to come off as well now. Might be time to revisit this and fix both again.
@@troysgarage lol after the first fix probably wanna get a whole replacement one.
I too used the 3M Headliner Adhesive as well. However, you need to let it try at least 5 minutes or it will soak through the fabric. I used plastic kitchen wrap to protect the window and plastic trash bags to protect the upholstery underneath. I was able to use my fingers to smooth out the fabric pretty well but the spoon is a nice touch.
Thanks man. It's been a while and still holding up strong.
Thanks for the heads up, I saw in this video that the glue did actually soak through.
I was just gonna use super glue 😂😂
How’d that turn out. Hahaha
I just used glue before looking it up on youtube and failed lol
Super glue will press through the fabric and will be noticeable.
Facts!
dont use super glue its a total waste of time ,it gets brittle in no time also it will be setting as you are trying to get the liner into position ,and also if the super glue gets on your hands or finger tops then the fun really begins ,, good luck
Loctite makes good stuff but the 3M product is excellent. You could also use a dauber with a cotton type tip (about the size of a grape) for smaller applications. Spray that and apply. It’s good to DIY!
Yea foam fast is the best by 3m we use it to keep felt on slate or wood pool tables all over the world it stays forever
@@davidgray7907 THX best stuff on the market. ✌️
If the backing foam is degraded, use the spoon to remove old foam first. Even if it is just the first inch or so.
I will be doing this too. I've done entire headliners before and I'd rather do the stitch in time! Good video. I concur!
Good Pro tip right there! It’s just now starting to come down again in the same spot (lasted 5 years) and in one new spot. I’ll do this same repair but add the foam removal too. Should last another 5+ years! Thanks man! 🙌🏼
I've got the exact same problem on my 2004 Silverado. Mine is hanging down on the driver's side by the door. Thanks a ton for the info on this. I can finally stop seeing this thing flapping in the wind. 🙂
Glad it helped! Thanks for the comment.
You've inspired me, I'm gonna try this to fix my '04 Explorer that's sagging in the same spot. Question though: Any particular reason you went with a "general purpose" spray adhesive (the Loctite) vice using a dedicated headliner adhesive, such as 3M's 38808 Headliner and Fabric Adhesive? I'm no expert, just wondering.
Honestly, it’s only because I had it already from other projects. And I was confident it would work just fine.
Hmm! I also have an '04 Explorer with the exact same problem
@@troysgarage thank you lots
Instead of doing it in a one time attempt, you should instead start from the internal area where it isn't adhered and work your to the edge,stretching it out as you work your way to the edge, also don't over apply the spray, you'll saturate the fabric and can end up allowing the subtance to surface which will compromise the material texture and feel, you want it 30% under the material if that makes semse
Wow how timely for me. I have the same color headliner but it's on the driver side and I have to scrunch down to see a traffic signal, unless of course I'm 40-50 feet from the signal, not cool, right? Anyway going out 2morrow and getting those products. Thanks.
Cheers mate I've been through a few tutorials on this and yours is the best and no fluffing around. You contributed to a Mercedes in New Zealand getting some TLC.
Thanks for the kind words. Glad this helped.
I have a 2006 bmw 325i and I was about to pay to have somebody repair this for me . Mines is coming off in the same exact spot just near my back window . Definitely appreciated this quick and easy DIY ! New subscriber ! 🤗
Nice! Thanks for the comment. Appreciate it. 🙌🏼
Lmao and you got a link to the spoon
Hahaha, yup all the “tools” linked below! 😜🕺🏼
I was wondering what you ment by spoon but yeah I just seen it in the vid
I buy this spray adhesive in bulk. I use a lot of it. However I would NOT recommend it for a headliner. As the can says "strong initial tack". Strong at first then not so much.. It dries and becomes a powder unless you load a lot if it on. The instuctions says it is "more permant bond" if you use a heavy spray.
The problem is also the way the headliner is made. It is a 1/8" foam that is heat bonded to the fabric. No glue in the headliner itsself. The fabric is heat fused to the foam. Once that heat bonded layer of foam starts to degrade and turns to dust the fabric breaks loose and falls away. If you spray glue onto a foam thats turning to dust it will pull layers of foam off one after the other. You can't glue to dust no matter how good your glue is.
I once used a piece of fabric blanket material from Joanns fabrics. Basically a blanket with no foam. I used foam upholstery glue and glued it to the cleaned head shell. It never came off again.
Heat bonded headliner fabric is junk. Try not to use it if possible. And use something like 3M 99 spray adhesive if you only want to do it once..
You say all that, however 3 years later when I sold the truck it was still holding strong. In fact I repaired the drivers side the same way almost a year before I sold the truck. I still see the truck every once in a while around town. Still going strong with well over 310k miles.
@@troysgarage just stating the facts.
Yes! Yes! Yes! That was starting to annoy me! Thank you for your trick! Love the spoon action and song background 🙌
Thanks! Glad it helped and was entertaining. 🙏🏼🕺🏼
Your headliner is going to last but,your health isn’t ,sitting in an enclosed vehicle while spraying an adhesive lol
"Looks like I picked the wrong time to give up glue sniffing."
Great job ,just bought a Dakota and the headliner is almost totally down so my job will require removal , wish me luck l.o.l. Bev
+Bev Jones good luck for sure! Get an extra set of hands for that job. 🙌🏼
I hear it sets faster if you smoke while applying :P
Rumor has it! 😂🙈
Thanks for the useful money saving info...& Go Steelers!
Any time! Thanks!
Thanks you're video was very helpful looks like iv got a project today I subscribe to your channel 😃
I know it was pretty straight forward, but I'm getting ready to do the headliner on my 01 Suburban tomorrow, and I would have never thought to use the spoon trick. Thanks man!
“Big Frickin’ Spoon” 😜
The one thing you missed was a mask or respirator
Spray adhesive and then remove plastic for overspray, then you would be able to see the lining in the front.
So you spray the outside of the headliner to get it neat?
That application was smooth like butter
Thank you for this!!
Thanks for watching and taking time to comment. 🙌🏼
My son started picking at a corner of the headliner in the back seat. Lol 5yr olds! I'll try this spray
Hahaha, dang kids! Glad this video inspired you. I'll bet it's still holding strong today.
Very helpful.. cheers..
Good one! Make Headliners Stuck Up Again! 👍
Well said sir! 👌🏼
Good stuff...just what I was looking for....Thanks
Glad it helped! 👍🏼
Nice to know about tape and drape-- never seen that product before this
Troy, I watched your video and you did a good job. I just would have liked to see you wearing a maskj because there surely was some overspray getting in your face. Not good for you!
About to try mine👏🏽👏🏽 Covid19 projects lol
How’d it turn out? It’s pretty easy as long as you don’t over saturate the fabric.
Of course its a Dodge. HA! Ive owned three and all of them have had this problem. Good video, i've been meaning to do this repair for a while.
Yep, my 05 grand caravan is doing the same.
Thanks. Left my sun roof open one night during a light rain and my headliner got messed up. This helps.
Worked GREAT - Thanks for Sharing!! It is so much better!
Check your spray for length of time waiting. I used high not medium - because I had a can already and it was only 15 seconds.
+Rita Gutierrez Loeding wow, that doesn’t leave much time for messing around! Quick work! 🤣
Hell yeah man. Clear and concise. Thanks!
You should also wear a mask.
We're all doing that nowadays!
Read the specs for the Loctite spray that you use. It specifically says NOT for Headliner use!
Shhh, don’t tell my headliner! Cuz it’s been fooled this whole time into working. 🤔🤷🏼♂️
DIY Home and Auto glad to hear that’s it working 😀.
Thank you for sharing this. I have so many places I need to fix in my van.
Glad to help. 👍🏼
Thank you vary much, the auto detailing shop in my area told me to use a stapler, or they can charge me $349.00 to redo my entire headline in my 04 Cherokee, this looks like a much better fix.
At least give it a try. Might save you a ton of money. 👍🏼
That price is outrageous!
@@drfreud65 lots of times the front seat has to come out. My silverado classic is this way. It’s actually a big headliner
@@drfreud65 I got the same quote until they asked if it had a sliding moon roof. The price shot up higher with the moon roof because of all the extra work required to remove the moon roof to replace the headliner on its cover.
I just bought a 1999 Ram Sport about a month ago, this very thing just happened a couple of days ago. I subbed and will look forward to all things Ram Sport 1500! Thanks for the uploads!
That's awesome, you will love that truck! I have a couple vids in the planning phase now. Hope to film this weekend and post next week. Thanks for subbing!
Omg thank you!!! I inherited my grandmother's 2007 Town and Country van and the headliner is starting to come down near the windshield. My darling idiot wanted to duct tape it back up. No pun intended, but I came unglued. He's not allowed to trash my van like he did his truck.
Ok that literally made me laugh out loud!!!! You win the comment of the week! 🤣 I don’t really have a prize other than to say you are my fav! 🕺🏼
Sounds like my ex!
Thanks Troy for the tips. Gotta Buick LaSabre add the rear edge by the glass is all coming unglued, THUMBDS UP!!!
Right on, appreciate the kind words!
Great video. Only trouble is we have Selley's spray adhesive (Bunnings Hardware) in Australia (Not Loctite) which is particularly unreliable for this application according to a review I read.
Do you have 3M products there?
For anyone who's interested, in really bad cases, you can go "brute force" and remove the fabric altogether. I say brute force because it requires removing the entire ceiling. The ceiling foam on my old Chrysler Town and Country minivan was dissolving so badly nothing would stick to it. I mean, it would stick, but then the foam-along with wads of glue-would just crumble into the now sagging fabric and make an awful mess when the wind blew in. So...
• I took out the ceiling and set it on a couple of sawhorses. (Harder than it seems. There are all kinds of electrical and AC connections up there.)
• Brushed / scraped away every bit of foam. This left a fibrous kind of texture. Fine by me.
• Spray painted it a nice flat gray to make it as inconspicuous as possible. (I considered doing a kind of Sistine chapel type thing, but nixed the idea.)
• Reinstalled it. Boom done.
I had the van for a good decade after that, and not one single person ever realized it should have had a fabric ceiling. Worked great, and no more crumbling foam worries.
Agreed with the term brute force! That is a big job. Hopefully most people find my video and fix theirs before that task is ever needed! This fix I did lasted 6 years before the drivers side started doing the same thing. I used this same fix on that side then sold the truck. I still see the truck over a year later and the headliner is still holding! Catch it soon enough and this fix is “permanent”.
I hope this work on my e36 m3 because BMW have VERY trash interior and more from the latest year of 2005 ALL start falling even door carpets
a few months down the road the other glue on headliner usually fails too. good luck hope it don't. 3M makes a headliner spray for these jobs
+sling shoter been 5 months now and still holding strong. No new sagging anywhere else.
DIY Home and Auto still holding strong? I’m going to fix mine with your method if it.
mine's still holding after 2 years. I also used the loctite adhesive.
Thank yo so much; packing tape isn't working so well and my headliner is almost completely down, I can't even see out my back window. I wish I had seen this when it looked like your headliner.
You're so welcome! And yeah, getting it fixed before it becomes a huge issue is much easier. Hope people learn from your mistake. Thanks for taking time to comment.
This is starting to happen on my 1999 dodge ram 1500. Same spot to, right above the visor front edge. Great info and video explaining what to do and to save money. Subbed
+TheFlR3StOrM Glad this helped and thanks for the sub! Got some more truck videos coming. Stay tuned 😜
Did the repair last or did it start to sag again? I’m having the same issue, my headliner is beginning to sag/fall. In the same area you repaired.
Just this spring it has begun to pull away again. The repair lasted for several years. I have one more spot on the drivers side doing the same thing. I’m going to hit both sides again and hope for several more years before it needs it again. 🙌🏼🕺🏼
@@troysgarage The 3M can says multiple coats may be needed. I'm going to apply 3 coats to each surface before sticking it together in my repair.
How come no one talks about how much these things cost? Permatex is $25 bucks at O'Reilly's, no idea elsewhere...why don't you address this obvious factor?
link to the Loctite spray adhesive used in this video is to Amazon for $23.50 - amzn.to/2o8ACbn. This is a cheap fix if you catch it early it will save you hundreds later. No brainer DIY weekend project.
Hi Troy… I just saw your video and it’s November 3rd 2022.. I need to repair my headliner as well as the side door vinyl. The passenger door vinyl has suddenly become loose at the free edge part of the door. It is loose all the way to the window handles. The vehicle is a 2001 Beetle.. she has seen better days but i refuse to let her go. She still gets me around town and I just have had her so long that i can’t give up on her. She has some issues that i am working on but i want to try to repair the inside things myself. Do you think the same method will work for the door vinyl? My fabric is very loose also in my headliner but i’m gonna try what you suggest. Should i buy a different spray adhesive for the vinyl part on the door? Thank you for any suggestions.. Lisa ( you might not even see my comment because this is an older video but i’m giving it a shot anyway) I have nobody to help me fix it but myself so i’m doing this so my poor little beetle looks better.. i know i must sound nuts but that car has been with me over 20 years and i can’t imagine her ending up in a junk yard.. she isn’t worth anything to anyone but to me she is my car and a part of my life for so long.. she needs to be pretty inside !
The same adhesive spray will work for both. Just spray both surfaces and let it dry enough to get tacky to the touch, then press them together. They should grab and hold right away. The fumes can be a little strong so be in a well ventilated area and try not to directly breath the fumes. You don't sound nuts to me! The truck in this video was mine for 16 years and I personally put over 240,000 miles on it. I did finally sell it 2 months ago and the headliner fix was still holding strong! You got this! 🙌
Having this issue in my1st Gen Tundra, want to stop it before I have to remove the whole thing and do a complete fabric replacement. Nice tip about using the spoon to smoothing the fabric.
Did it work? Mine held for 5 years, I did the same fix on the drivers side 3.5 years later and both were holding strong when I sold the truck last year! All the nay sayers and go away! haha
Big deal. You reglued the front edge. Now show us how to fix it when the whole headliner is drooping down on the cab. And, not all headliners are molded so all you have to do is take down the molded board and recover it.
There are other videos showing the whole process. I’m trying to show how to keep from having that major repair. I’ll watch for your video to come out and show me how it’s supposed to be done! 🤪🤛🏼
I already tried that bullshit Loctite crap. It doesn't work, and is sagging more than ever. The heat affects the glue and it falls apart a second time. Go back to the drawing board as I have to do.
Your liner must have been more deteriorated than mine. This solved it for 3+ years and I did the exact same fix on the drivers side right before selling the truck. New owner comes by every once in a while. Still holding strong! 🤷🏼♂️
That looks horrible; how embarrassing. You protected everything but your lungs with that glue. Thanks for the post though.
Keep in mind this isn't a "restoration" but a "keep it from tearing away further" job. The truck had 285,000 miles on it at this point. I sold the truck at 309,000 miles 3 years later and this fix was still holding. On the protect your lungs thing.... if you do this stuff for a living and expose yourself daily then YES please protect yourself. I had plenty of ventilation and didn't even get a contact high from the fumes. Everybody needs to relax! Putting your stuff out for the world to see isn't easy. So I guess you're welcome!
Since it's the foam, between the fabric and the core headliner, that is deteriorating, and not the original adhesive, what keeps the residual foam from deteriorating more--and coming loose again? I'm thinking that it might be a good idea to sand off all the remaining foam from the core headliner (especially at the edge) before applying the adhesive. Your video is a little over a year old now. Do you still have the car? If so, how has this fix held up? Thanks for the video!
18 months and still holding strong. No new areas coming loose either. I still drive with my windows down all the time. I’m sure in worse cases you would need to take more drastic measures. But catch it early and avoid that mess. Good luck with yours. Hope it’s not worse than mine and needing more than this simple fix. 👍🏼
What about if your headliner is falling down everywhere almost and stained with the brown nasty sticky stuff cause of my 5 year old autistic son that loves to mess with everything and is a terrorizer smh lol! So how to get the stains off of it after or before putting it back on?
Sounds like a total replacement is needed for yours. Sorry that's not more helpful but if it's destroyed there's not much you can do. Gotta catch it early.
Gonna try this with my mustang, it's been sagging a little in the back right corner of the seat & I never knew how to fix it but I've had a few friends seen it & I felt embarrassed asf 😂 hopefully I'll get to somehow fix the whole back cause it looks like there might be a little bit of a rip so I might not get the whole thing but we'll see, appreciate you for showing this to everyone dawg frr
Hopefully you can save it or at least extend its useful life a little longer. Sound like yours is much worse than mine was. Post your results here. I’d like to hear how it goes. 🙌🏼
Big improvement! Too bad GM couldn't use some decent glue in the first place. Cheap bastards!
Lots of corner cutting and cost savings taking place in the auto industry over the years. I know they have the tech to build a vehicle that would last decades but that doesn’t make them money. 🤷🏼♂️🤮
Thanks for this video. I have seen some others but so far your is the best.
Thanks brother! 🙏🏼
This is a waste of time and money. You can not save an old headliner. But have at it, when it is messed up an upholster won't touch it.
This repair lasted me 5 additional years with NOTHING else to do to it. I then sold the truck and still see it from time to time around town. Headliner still intact! If you do it "good enough" and before it's completely destroyed this fix works!!!! Not everything is a waste of time and money. If it got bad enough I would have replaced the whole thing and not messed with it.
I liked ur video until i seen "the steelers"... Lol jk. Still helpful video
I appreciate that! But you can rest assured all my NFL crap is GONE. So tired of the political garbage being shoved in our faces all the time. I haven't watched a single snap of NFL football since the Steelers made Villanueva hold a press conference apoligizing for watching the National Anthem with his hand over his heart while he sang along! Yup it's that big of a deal to me! I'm done with the NFL!
Only for those who have it tearing along the edge - my past 3 vehicles that did this did it in the middle -as my current new used truck has now - oh wrll
True, it's easy to fix along the edges. The key is catching it early enough (or being lucky enough it only releases at the edges.
Headliner for 1994 Chevy pickup
Safety first! Enclose yourself in plastic and fill with glue fumes 😂😂😂😂
You aren’t wrong. But this was 6 years ago way before respirators we’re even invented! Kidding of course, but when the camera is on it’s easy to just get excited and keep going. It’s harder than you think to put your work out there for the world to critique. So many keyboard OSHA inspectors out there! Read the comments. Hahaha. Too much government! 😜
Troy, my goodness, you’re breathing that stuff in!! Are you ok?
Appreciate the concern. I’m fine. I held my breath through as much as I could. I’m much smarter about stuff like this now. But I assure you this wasn’t nearly as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Doing UA-cam and putting yourself out there is risky business and it’s harder than most people think.
Am I mind took headlining out of the car talking about 10 minutes and his girlfriend brushed all the loose foam off and glued material back on, it took like an hour and the whole thing was done. It didn't come back off and U had car for few years after fixing. I don't know why this video has random me come up for me to watch but anybody reading this comment it's very easy to take the headlining out of the car and glue it properly yourself. Cheers Graham
Love it, i hope one of the door is open.
Both doors were open and there was a breeze, I'm alive today to tell the story. haha
Thanks guy. Mine is looking just like that. Thanks again for the tip.
+Wayne Peterson glad to help!
A spoon! Now I am going to do the old Lincoln Town Car. It's just starting to droop in the back about a 1/2 inch. Nip that in the bud!
bro same here mines an 03.
A old credit card work great to help tuck it back in.
So basically that's for small jobs, if it's sagging all the way to the back then what??
Sorry to say but you’ll have to take the whole thing down and out. You have to get adhesive on both the fabric and the backing then carefully line it up to get it just right. I have seen a couple of videos out there but if I remember right they replaced the fabric when they did it. That would be easier than trying to line up an already cut to size piece.
My pilot is all peeling, it's got to an irritating look. I feel like the fabric shrinks when it peels
When the headliner is falling down badly enough the best fix is to tear it all down and replace it. I’ve torn one out before and just left it out. Not perfect but better than what it looked like. (It was about a $400 car LOL)
Spray adhesive didn't stick, the backer board is flaking and not sticking to the cloth... I tried some thumb tax... No luck either.... ????? Frustrating!!!!
Addendum: I have to remove entire backboard.... Strip off old cloth, sand clean. Apply new cloth.... Someday...
Sorry, that’s the only option if it’s too far gone. Sounds like the rest is coming down soon too.
Thank you so much, God bless you. My mom was going to look for someone to fix her car. The rear windshiel is peeling off, so now I know what to do.
Looks like my wife's Chrysler Villager.
No way, has the wet look, and those areas are hard , no longer has that soft headliner feel. Sorry no go for me.
How often are you looking at or touching your headliner in that spot? 🤪 Seriously though. If your vehicle that’s falling apart means that much you won’t be happy with any fix. This is why I don’t do work for anyone else. You just can’t please everyone. You should try to be nicer. Nothing constructive to say, don’t say anything at all. 🤨🤦🏼♂️
Forgot a mask to protect lungs
The music made this job a lot more intense than it should be
Hahaha, this comment wins the internet today. One of the hardest parts about editing videos is selecting the music. Harder than it sounds. 🤷🏼♂️
Ok but mine is completely sagging, like the whole thing is held with tacks lol
😱 Sounds like yours is a complete do over. 🤷🏼♂️
Great video and just what I needed. Thank you for posting.
Glad it was helpful!
Safety first but what about your lungs....no mask to decrease the fumes heading straight to your brain!? 😂