Rdr lawman would be a damn masterpiece. But what I REALLY want is more drip. The lack of Panchos and eyepatches and even things that the gang wore really angered me
Nobody wore ponchos in the old west, they were outdated by duster coats, unless you were like some homeless guy living in Mexico in the year 1835. It gets tangled on alot of stuff and is annoying to wear. You also need a reason to wear a poncho, a poncho is worn to protect your clothes from the dust and sand, but theres no desert to explore as Arthur and John, well John is a rancher. RDR2 tried to be historically accurate with clothes instead of going with the hollywood style, same reason why there are no belt loops in the game
@@Ao19222Maybe you’re right, but in the movies like once upon a time in the west and good bad and ugly they wore ponchos, so it makes me feel more of a cowboy or wanted man than having no poncho.
@@faas9806 sure, if there were deserts in rdr2 that you could actually get into, maybe a few outstanders would wear them including arthur. and also some del lobos npcs still have ponchos in the game. A long poncho like CLINT EASTWOOD would break some animations too as it would interfere with drawing out your gun etc. Thats why John had a short boxy poncho in rdr1.
I would love a Lawman/vigilante game, having it where the "redemption" in the game is when the lawman redeems himself of the corrupted system he is in. I also love the idea of a young man wrapped up in a gang (perhaps the Van Der Linde one) and the "redemption" in that game is him leaving to start a family, and after we play as a young Arthur Morgan for the epilogue. Realistically, we're getting Mac Callander for RDR3, as he was being built as this massive character in Arthur's life and has some of the same story beats that Arthur had.
Did you finish the game? Its clear that we will probably play as Sadie. I mean for crying out loud the character Mac is only talked about during chapter 1 and 2. Its just exposition bro nothing more.
Flipping the other games' west meets east would be neat. You'd start out in a caravan of pioneers from an east coast city bound for California with plans to tame the west, but gradually become more disillusioned with society as the journey progresses further into wild country. Civil War deserter turned bushwhacker would also go hard.
I never thought of having San Francisco but it sounds like a great idea. Also the 1860's setting, so much was happening back then besides the civil war, id love to go south of the border and experience the Mexican Empire, actual vaqueiros or just the western part of America in general. I really hope rdr3 goes this direction.
A map of Mexico and Central America would be amazing, the late 1800s was a volatile time for that region which would make for some exciting high energy missions.
@@Tsudkyk I'd expect alot of Blood Meridian references if not inspiration for the main campaign. The Glanton gang was messed up and would have alot of synergy with the previous games I think. Also it'd have native tribes be a big role in the story again. I dont think we need to have a big connected world for it to be really good honestly. Tho it would be cool to see Arthur, Dutch, maybe a young Hosea or the already known natives. (I'd love to see big foot again though #justiceforsasquatch)
The problem with going back much further than the 1870s is the lack of technology that made the “wild west.” Sure, the civil war might be fun to explore, but we’d be getting into shootouts with muzzleloaders and percussion cap revolvers. I don’t think that would work very well
I want a game that takes place somewhere around 1873-77 because that was the peak of the Outlaw Era in the Wild West. That was when Outlaws weren’t just lowdown criminals running from a country, a world, that didn’t want them anymore. They were icons they were as famous as they were feared. Heroes and Villians. We could see the Tatum Brothers and Otis Miller and the 5 Gunslingers from RDR2. You would be an Outlaw trying to reach the level of Otis Miller and Jim ‘Boy’ Calloway.
Yes bro I’d 100% play one based around being a native. The story beats of living a dying way of life is basically built in, it works, and it’s super unique with a ton of possibilities
PLEASE! Not the tired old “dances with tears” native story again. It’s done to death, and it’s the ONLY direction that they would ever take a native story.
I don't want to be an Indian in a game. Just let the story take place in 1870's. And also let us be someone like Jesse James type of character where we work together with other outlaws and so on..
@@Kvs-vf9nt done before and prob has exact same story elements as past two games. Outlaw does outlaw stuff with outlaws before he dies by the sunset… I wanna play something new
I’d personally like a Lawman story. Historically speaking, folks like Wyatt Earp and Henry Newton Brown played on both sides of the law. I imagine your character being a Marshal in the 1870s having that internal conflict of being a legalistic vs laissez-fair in a frontier town. Corruption would be a great theme. I think back to RDR1’s intro when Jenny asks the preacher, “It's so confusing, Father. Sometimes, I find it impossible to make the distinction between a loving act and a hateful one. I mean, they often seem to be the same thing.”
I completely agree that the Van Der Linde Gang story is complete. My favorite Wild West story is the Lincoln County War. I think a cattle baron war would be cool in a landscape like the heartlands and west elizabeth with the option to go into the mountains to be a mountain man. That timing doesn’t align great but that’s my favorite thing to do.
11:41 man, when you said running into Lyle Morgan, that’s perfect. I could see rockstar making it to where Lyle is talking about his son and how he hasn’t been a good father. It would be great to find out he actually did care about Arthur, he just was caught up in a bad lifestyle. Knowing rockstar though, he’d probably just be a drunk at the bar or something 😂
As an Australian I really want a game set in the Australian gold rush. Its such a rich and underrated part of history that even other Australians don't know much about. Having a video game set then playing as a bushranger would be so cool with people actually finding out about it and learning about the era. Doesn't even need to be an RDR game or made by Rockstar, an Assasins Creed game could be almost as good (if Ubisoft doesn't screw it up)
Perhaps the game could start with the protagonist in England and follow his journey all the way to the Blue Mountains. Exploring 19th century Sydney would be awesome too!
We can play getting screwed over by the govt and mining companies. Eureka didnt end well. Though we have bushrangers to explore... Problem in Australian civilisation was very small then, ballarat isnt that big or exciting game wise. We didn't have the violence or crime like America.
could be a cool idea plus they could also include elements of the Australian frontier skirmishes that took place with aboriginals, they could also include a place you could travel to based off new Zealand and its conflicts with the natives
Sign me up for the Lawmen Story, maybe thats how your honor level could be used in RDR3, possibly if you had low honor you resign from being a sheriff and if you keep high honor you decided to stay a sheriff.
I think the story could be fabulous but it would take so much away from open world the best part about rdr2 for me was the ability to do anything like kill anyone rob anyone and rob shops and generally a lawman would be to restricted in what they can actually do
The native american storyline from RDR2 was one of the best parts of the game, I wish they would show more of those people’s cultures. I love to find items and points of interest around the map that tap into this side of history. My character in RDOnline was a native american as well and I loved roleplaying as such, stealthing my way into enemy camps with my bow and arrow, bringing out the tomahawk for the brutal kills. It’s awesome.
The problem with the Lawman idea is you cant commit crimes or do shenanigans in freeplay for story reasons until you turn bad. And nobody wants the freeplay to be like Rhodes in Chapter 3
that might be cause we play as arthur and get attached to his character and the people he surrounds himself with, he was never a lawman, and noone expected him to be like one or act like one, so you dont feel free to do what youve been expecting to do, or expect him to do. but if it was about a lawman, the in world random events could be you stopping some sort of criminal, or going to a gang camp or hideout and taking it out. idk just a thought. sorry if that didn’t make sense im kinda faded also rhodes sucks in that sense cause it ristricts you and doesn’t give much in return, i think if being like a lawman felt and actually gave me more gameplay options and events it would have been more fun, ight im done yappin!
That's not entirely true. It just hasn't been done before. It could easily be a story about the morality of law in the west and how you grapple with that as a lawman. The freeroam could let you be as evil as you want, just the end state is avoiding getting caught and the low honor and perhaps some gameplay penalties in free roam. (Maybe local Sherrifs and law man won't help you in free roam or something if you get into a scrap because they know of your reputation.) It might seem like it would feel wrong to play as an unethical lawman but we so often forget pretty much every single adult member of the Van Der Linde Gang is a terrible, horrible person. Even Arthur. The nuances of the story come in when you get to know them. The game could also change up what you want to do, by shifting the free roam gameplay from focusing on the outlaw cowboy stuff to more focused, repeatable and engaging missions about stopping criminals, raining hideouts and stuff. Like imagine if the camps you raided and crimes you stopped actually had an effect on the world? Something akin to the Stalker Clear Sky Warfare system. RDR2 is great, and it's world feels alive. But the free roam is essentially divorced from the narrative. Stuff you do outside of missions doesn't have any effect on the world. EDIT: To clarify, people like going on rampages in Sant Denis because the gunplay and world of RDR2 is amazing. But there aren't a lot of free roam locations to use it. You can ride around and wait for bandits to find you or something, or you can raid gang hideouts. But those are unmarked and hard to find. You wouldn't need to be able to go on a rampage, if say there were marked, dynamic and fun side activities where you could kill. Say, marked known areas where local gangs are known to base, hunting down bounties, stopping dynamic bank or train robberies. RDR2 is a masterpiece, but it economically focuses on what's important to it's experience, so those kind of things are not realized out to their full potential.
The idea is not you play as a lawman, but a lawman turned vigilante/criminal. So your problem is irrelevant, because if the player wants to be a criminal, then they will be a criminal in the story.
The Kelly Gang story. But take it from Australia to Americas wild west. Local hero becomes notorious outlaw/highwayman in the gold rush. Takes an entire town in a siege. Spruik independence for Irish settlers in a British colony. Build ups to a battle between the gang and the army.
13:37 I totally agree with this. I've had both weed and alcohol and they do not make your vision all blurry and change colors. It's kind of hard to potray the actual feeling you get but I think the Rdr1 way was as close as you can get with all the stumbling around.
I think an interesting option would be a classic empire building story where we’re an ex-Soldier of the Civil War and we come out west and we try to establish a ranching empire and build up a town in the most lawless territory and have to fight off everyone but if you play like the Duttons of Yellowstone, it all burns down but if you play it like John Wayne, the town defends you
This is actually pretty good, we could even meet Dutch’s father in a side mission since it’s mentioned he died at Gettysburg. Which would slightly connect the game to the others
Your lawman idea is cool. Going along with your idea of a lawman who becomes dissuaded with the powers that be, I could see something like "Training Day" but set in the wild west.
I love the idea of expanding outward west, theres so many ideas in my head for a red dead threes map, a redwood forest area with a town that’s almost a mix of rhoads and Strawberry, a cramped San Fransisco inspired city on the coast, and a county based off the red rocks in Colorado just to name a few. We hear that Sean joined in the game in north Elizabeth, which brings up ideas of a less harsh Ambarino containing a coal mining town in the foot hills. Another cool idea is a new region of the Grizzles, as micha joined in a bar in the grizzles, maybe there could be a tavern on the road for travelers? Not a full on settlement but just a few houses and a large bar and inn. I also think the idea of a man coming out to Thives Landing would be an awesome idea, joining the law force there imagining life on the west as your stereotypical good guys vs bad guys narrative, only to realize that the police were pains off, hence the name thieves landing, and that live in the west is truly a lot more morally grey than it seems. And when his family dies of cholera, he hangs up his badge and begins traveling the country, trying to bring overs the dream life on the prairie he never had, possibly inspiring a young Dutch. Or, in the case of a low honor route, he gives up on life, and does the bidding of a corrupt lawman, roaming the frontier doing dirty business with gangs and locking people away for not paying things like protection.
What you said about seasons was spot on I’ve always thought Roanoke ridge needed an autumn setting as it’s based on Appalachia which has stunning autumns
I want a game like where you play as a 16-20-year-old kid in Missouri in the civil war or a bit before the civil war 1855-1859. Where you are a former confederate guerrilla during the war you were with a Willam Quantrill or Bloody bill Anderson type character. I think after the war the main character should become a gunfighter. Or start his own gang (like most of the former confederate guerrillas did after the civil war). After like a few chapters he leaves the gunslinger or outlaw life he starts a family until an old gang member/bounty hunters attack his home and hurts his family. Injured and dazed he rides to a town, and he gets patched up and he starts his quest for vengeance. I forgot to mention after the war he moves west so he could have a better start his gunfighting/outlaw career.
Ride with the Devil and Josey Wales come to mind. Absolutely support this, we have NEVER had a Civil War ERA open world game. To encounter the atrocities and horrors of the Civil War, ESPECIALLY the Western Campaign, where it actually was Neighbor vs Neighbor, friends and families torn apart over the war. It would be an absolute masterpiece.
The problem with being that far back is we’d be getting into shootouts with muzzleloaders. Wouldn’t work well for a game that revolves around gunfights and shootouts
@@malcolmvinson777 Brother, there where a plethora of repeating firearms during that time. RDR2 already has two cap and ball revolvers, adding a couple high powered single shot rifled muskets wouldnt be an issue. The Spencer, the Henry, the Sharps, the Burnside carbine, and countless other either repeating or breach loading cartridge guns existed during this time period and would be almost indistinguishable from the weapons of rdr 2
I think RDR3 could still be about the Van Der Linde gang. I would enjoy a game about the dude arthur talks about when playing Dominoes with Tilly. He talks about a "traitor" that Dutch killed in the camp. Maybe this character could've had some sort of redemption like Arthur did. Maybe he saved an enemy of the Van Der Linde gang that he had a secret relationship with or something. And it would be before red dead redemption 2 which would link up with how the games go back in the timeline. And we don't know anything about him other than he is an unnamed "traitor", which isn't a big spoiler for the game
A lot of people talk about having Landon Ricketts as the protagonist but I think it should be someone who road with him so we don’t know his fate also they i think they should use one of the people on gunslinger cigarettes cards to give some world building The perfect person to use is Bart love cuz he’s on a card and we know nothing about him Also have a girlfriend or wife that you can flirt with and sleep with don’t show anything tho I wouldn’t be able to get the game if that happens Maybe in the high honor ending you leave go have kids and the game end no epilogue or ability to play that might be stupid idk
There's one major hangout I have about a civil war setting and that's GUNS. Most of the rifles, shotguns and revolvers were percussion and required black powder to fire making reloading a hassle. There were however ways to circumvent this problem, such as the use of paper cartridges and the Remington Model 1858's ability to swap an empty cylinder with a fresh one. There also was The Lefaucheux M1858 pin-fire revolver a predecessor to the colt 1872 army. Other than that there would only be 2 repeaters in the game, the Henry and the Spencer's carbine as the Yellow-boy repeater wasn't accessible until 1866. So yeah, not a lot of variety.
I might be late but didn't GTA 4 have like 3 rifles 2 pistols and 2 snipers?I mean yeah it is kinda bad but ignoring that issue for what the game could be seems fair to me
I absolutely love the lawman/vigilante story idea and how awesome that story could be, an idea i had for that story I had was maybe every person you hunt down you can either kill them or bring them in and watch them get hanged, and the title i thought of is pretty sick ( Red dead revenge ) Great video as always
My personal pitch is for the Klondike. -Sled dogs, horses, canoes -deeply rural beautiful country for a game space - Small gold mining towns, ports, and prospector camps ideal for spacing out key towns and areas - we actually get to use the Trapper clothes from RDR2 - Lawless due to under sized law force to control the new frontier - Start as an outlaw in the west, and flee on a boat north. - Plenty of native tribes for those interested in that. - Still portrays the wilds meets civilization theme. - Northern Lights - Russians, Fur Traders, Canadians - Log Cabins - Polar bears, Seals, etc.
They should make bounties more of a process. Instead of picking up a poster and just riding out somewhere outside of town, you would ride out and find that they'd left recently, and you have to track them down to their next stop, maybe you catch up to them but they give you the slip, maybe even after you catch them. Maybe you have to ask around to find out where they went. Maybe you encounter other bounty hunters and you could choose to kill them or hinder their progress or even team up and split the bounty. Maybe if you wait to bag a bounty it goes up but the criminal becomes deadlier.
Hear me out, Landon Rickets in the Civil War. Call it Red Dead Rebellion or something like that, I think the Read Dead Redemption storyline had a perfect finish and doesn't need to be ran dry.
i think the concepts of american civil war and native wars are incredible,including the caravans of the pioneers. the 60s of the 19 century are the best timeline option. the story of a lawman becoming a vigilante is also a great idea man, and i want to include the idea of not also build your ranch like john did, but building your own town, maybe at the end of the game, because in the 60s the west is mostly nature and there are a few villages and cities. you made a great video man the best ideas for rdr3 i saw so far . keep going ❤️💪🏻
My hope for a while has been for the series to fully shift to Mexico for a Red Dead Revolución kinda thing, since I loved the parts of the first game that took place south of the border, get that full Mexi-Western vibe with a bandido-revolutionary main character. I definitely think a brother-sister duo would work there too - one's committed to the cause, the other just wants the outlaw life. Could be some pretty cool biomes too - you got your deserts, your gulf-coast jungles, some towns and cities, could have some old Mayan temples, that kinda thing. Like you say, just spit-ballin. With that said, your lawman-vigilante concept really scratches that old-fashioned Spaghetti Western itch and I'm so fuckin down for that. With you 100% on the need to go back to the Golden Age and westward too. We've done that melancholic death-of-a-way-of-life thing for two games and it can't be bettered by something further down the road. Time for the full, old west gunslinger experience.
Red Dead Revolución is such a sick title and would be such a cool game concept. I think of Clint Eastwood’s character in Two Mules for Sister Sarah. You could be a hired gun for the revolutionaries and have missions blowing up bridges, etc.
I like the lawman idea but I'd keep him a lawman throughout the game. Imagine him being the change the law needed in his region. But I almost got to say that playing as an native american who's fed up and angry could work so well too. He could be a loner who's always angry but learns that life still has its good sides so at the end he leaves his hate behind. Another one I'd like is revisiting Mexico. Abraham Reyes could be either the or one of the antagonists. Miranda Fortuna is also alive, so she could be an reacuring character. Mexico also seems to be more lawless and chaotic during this time, so we don't need to worry about WW1 too much. We could be playing as Jack Marston who is laying low in Mexico and is now fixing what John, in a sense, caused. But we could also just have a new MC. I'd prefer if Jack didn't turn into a mass shooter and managed to change course.
@@cohengamertv6548 exactly, but I would hate to play as Eagle Flies himself. It would just feel lazy to go back to the same map with returning characters because their story is already finished
A game where you play as Landon Ricketts in his prime would meet a lot of things on your list. You could start off with him in his youth as a novice and slowly turn into the legendary gunslinger. As far as I know (I'm no RDR lore expert), he was never an outlaw or a bad guy, so it would be an interesting experience compared to RDR1 and 2. He's basically THE vigilante gunslinger in the RDR universe.
a day of the dead inspired read dead game/DLC would be so cool... you can't lie an red dead redemption style game with black and neon day of the dead type themes wouldn't go insanely hard
One of the biggest crimes of RDR2 was not keeping the Skinner brothers as a Native American tribe. As it stands, they are essentially the Mufree brood 2.0 but they could've been so freaking badass. It fits canocially, as this would have been the tribe that Dutch would've used and manipulated in RDR1. It's stupid that they wanted to be politically correct, because it wasted such a cool opportunity. After all the depressing storylines of the Natives dying off, the last ones going to war, Rains Fall losing his son, etc, it would've been so cool and refreshing to suddenly start seeing them merc people in Tall Trees. You'd even be able to pick up hats and their weapons, and along with some crafted items and clothes, you could've roleplayed as a Native out for revenge! or Justice! or something! screw the politics that deprived us of all these opportunities!
My dream for sometime has been chapter 1 in the civil war, some injustice spits you out of the army, and then journey to vigilante/lawman happens. Deadwood, Tombstone, etc
My dad always had the idea of playing as Dutch, as a union deserter, during or shortly after the civil war. Would be pretty cool I think, give more of an inside look to the development of his psyche maybe show how originally his intentions were pure but his seflish and pyscho tendencies led him down a wrong path perhaps due to horros witnessed in the war
I would really like it to at least include the year 1875 at the earliest because I NEED the Remington 1875. What a beautiful revolver. I would think maybe a long stretch of years ranging from civil war to a journey out west ending in maybe early 1880s.
I think haunted locations would be cool I mean we have the haunted battlefield in rdr2. Also let me make time accurate soldier uniforms and give the npcs the ability to comment on your outfit depending on where you're at
it would be interesting if the main character is a slave who escapes and goes west where he does his stuff (maybe he could join a tribe and foght against other tribes or the military) and after quite a time the american civil war starts and he joins the north and fights for them, maybe he fights against his old friends who where forced to fight for there evil boss or something like that.
I'd like to play as a deserter of the civil war. Maybe a group of deserters form a gang, could be a cool angle. The gang part might even be a little overdone, maybe more of a loner character.
I would love a Story set during the Civil War. It would be neat to see the story of what is going on since we hear so much about it. Maybe even include a young Rains Fall and Lindsey Wofford. Maybe the Wapiti sides with the Confederates and it begins their spiral down to where they are in 1899 amd 1907. And maybe even see the start of the Lemoyne Raiders. Would be a major side plot and you the character takes up work for both sides. Would be cool to see the Battle of Scarlet Meadows and the Union capture of St. Denis. And maybe throughout the world you see fights between the Union and the Wapiti and Confederates. Maybe even have troops of the 3rd Lemoyne doing guerilla tactics just as a nod that these guys one day will become the Lemoyne Raiders. It would suck having to use muskets and single shot Breachloaders, but it would make revolver play more prominent and Repeaters a bit more special. Effectively you have to play like a gunslinger which will be fun. Like your starting guns can be the Kentucky Rifle and the Colt 1851 or Colt Patterson. For other long arms stuff like the Springfield Musket can boast higher accuracy and power, the Sharps being a quick loading mid power rifle, Repeater Carbine, and the Litchfield. Plus maybe the Colt Revolving rifle. For shotguns maybe include a single shot and double barrel. For Sniper Rifles the Whitworth is a must have. Finally for the revolvers I would suggest the following. Colt Paterson or Colt 1851 as the simple starting gun. Colt Dragoon/Walker as the powerful Pistol, LeMat and its 8 shots and Shotgun, Savage Navy being a pseudo double-action, Remington Army as the speed loaded revolver, and finally the Sawed off Shotgun. And finally the bow, but maybe have like a shortbow and longbow thing going one. Like the shortbow is weaker, but more accurate and the longbow is stronger, but less accurate.
something I always thought would be great is maybe a bandito from Mexico similar to Javier where you fled Mexico leaving your family or something within the first couple of chapters and you come to America heading to san Fransisco in search of gold trying to be a millionaire to pay off your bounty and get your family back or something, OR a Native American basically who got kicked out his tribe and became an outlaw or maybe a lawman him redeeming himself within his tribe and getting them land or something being his arch, or lastly a runaway slave heading northwest for freedom and becomes a lawman because his dad always talked about justice idk lol just ideas I always think about
Nice that you didn't just say "MOAR ARTHURR" like a lot of people have been doing. I love your taste in Westerns, and the Civil War idea is very cool. Only extra thing I'd add is like duelling competitions or the option to trigger them more easily, I used to love duels from Revolver and there weren't enough in the newer games.
A cool idea would be a game that follows the Challendar brothers from rdr2, you could swap between them like in gta5 and there could be two-player coop
This may not be the best idea for a red dead game but a game focusing on the Underground Railroad around the civil war could tell a pretty interesting story. Probably be called Red Dead Railroad
1877 but yeah that leaves 22 years until blackwater to draw stories and gameplay from. Utilizing any member of the gangs sides of the story . I find that more appealing than the supposed medieval them they are planning on possibly making.
Landon Ricketts' story would be awesome as well. We can play through his wild west life, we'll know what made him a famous gunslinger, we can have huge time skips which could implement the season changes and see him age until 1899 where he witnessed the Blackwater Massacre, and then end up in Mexico, where he retired until he met John. But the lawman storyline would definitely be sick.
I think a Van der linde gang origin story makes sense. A truly Wild West, we hear the gang reminiscing of the past just like how John talked of the past in the first game.
Perhaps a Civil War section could involve that civil war vet from Rhodes, maybe also involving the siege of that fort north of Saint Denis. For me I’d say 1850’s to 1870’s would be the perfect slice of time for a Civil War type story, maybe moving out west in the 50’s then getting caught up in the civil war in the 60’s, then in the late 60’s-70’s getting involved in the reformation (like freeing slaves and dealing with people like Compton). Then maybe the epilogue could be getting disillusioned with how awful the southerners still are after all that work and moving to the north west, perhaps temporarily becoming a lawman in a place like Colter along the way. Then finally settling down in a small town and owning a shop in your retirement, and the rest of the epilogue can just be the daily operations of the store, also donating to the community so it can grow kinda like how the camp worked.
I think the Oregon trail would be a great side quest or even the main point in the game. Like the point is for the protagonist to survive and help others in the wagon train survive the way to their destination. Either that's surviving harsh weather fighting bandits, natives, wild animals, or even themselves would make a cool game to play. Or the main character is the wagon master, or just a settler with a dream to live in the new frontier. I also believe one of the most underrated people of the wild west were mountain men. Mountain men were great men usually trappers that explored the west helping mapping, being scouts for the army, trail guides for wagon trains, people sent to make peace with native Americans. And they had the coolest adventures. We could have someone from St Louis and they seek adventure and join a trapping party going to the Missouri river, which was a famous spot for trappers to trap for beaver, and they go through hardships and their personal character builds on the experience they gain in the frontier. They can help people who are lost in the wilderness, help or fight natives, and much more adventures from the lifestyle of a mountain man.
In RDR2 they talk about a time with the gang was separated for a couple months or years before black water. Arthur and Hosea got separated from Dutch and John, each having their own groups to look after. I believe the next game will be set in this time. Roughly 1897, and you will play as both Mac and Davey Callander
i can't agree more on the snow map. i LOVED when the snow was added to the full map as a christmas event in Red dead online. It was AMAZING. We need MORE games in snow.
@@yonathantaye1797the fact they’re the biggest slimes in the game and STILL weren’t even remotely close to as bad as they were irl is hilarious. What’s even funnier is that despite how NICE rockstar did them relatively, the irl organisation SUED them
for the wanted system you have to change clothes because npcs can remember how you dress if you've done crime already in the town. There are videos about it that can explain it more.
This is my idea for RDR3 RDR3 Story Idea It’s 1914, Isaac Morgan, now age 26, is on the tail of a mysterious outlaw who killed his mentor Agent Ross. Isaac, was thought to be killed by a group of bandits with his mother in 1894, but in reality his mother Eliza faked their deaths and tried to find a better life elsewhere. Isaac was raised by his mother to be a very good man, and always had a calling at being a lawman. Isaac became a lawman at 19 years old in 1907 and then came under the leadership of Agent Edgar Ross in 1911, after the deaths of the rest of the Van Der Linde Gang. Isaac found out that his mentor Edgar Ross was shot to death in a river in New Austin. He goes to investigate this mysterious murder that occurred, and is on the tail of this dangerous outlaw. His investigations lead him across the Eastern part of the United States, stumbling onto various clues, and going from the Center Town in Amabarino all the way to the streets of brimstone, finding his mentors Killer. He stumbles upon Jack Marston, a young kid at the age of 19, and interrogates him. He notices that Jack is wearing a very similar Jacket to his late father’s and questions him on it. Jack and Isaac meet, and the story from there can be interpreted in one way or another. RDR3 map is huge, about 2 times the size of RDR2 and includes the entirety of the RDR2 map, with Mexico, and new additions to the East and Western portions of the map. What do ya’ll think so far?
Ok so, when I heard the name Lyle Morgan I got a crazy idea, what if there was a prologue where you play as Lyle with young Arthur and Arthur's mom around. The prologue ends with you wiping out all but one person of a family, maybe he has a rare moral moment where he cant bring himself to kill, and that one survivor is the protagonist for the main game. That would make a super interesting setting for a possible run-in with Arthur later on, maybe Arthur recognizes something on your character as something Lyle drunkenly recounted to him as a child, your belt buckle, the hat your wear, a facial feature. Obviously a lot to fill in there but I feel like going back to a crime Arthur's father committed to connect the stories without having a focus on the same characters would be super cool.
I agree with you on not continuing the story of the van der Lin gang. But if we got to see little mentions of some of the characters I think that would be cool
I’d love to see a lawman/vigilante, but I like the idea of being able to put together a gang from NPC’s you meet along the journey, all to change how the ending of the game plays out depending on who you incorporate into your own gang. Not only a personal honor system, but a gang honor system. I think that could be awesome.
Yes “Red Dead Redemption” is synonymous with John Marston and the Van der Linde gang and story, if they didn’t include them in the next game they’d have to change the title to something new
Yeah but you know for a fact they're gonna call the next game red dead redemption 3. Look, before rdr2 got announced I expected it would be another red dead with another word like how there was red dead revolver and red dead redemption and if they'd continued that trend I'd have preferred that but when they made a prequel and called it rdr '2' I realized it was never gonna be like that lmao
@bajscast Yeah, but for it to be called Redemption, then you'll need to have Redemption in the game, and I don't see how peak Dutch and Hosea would be having a Redemption, same for Jack.
Idea: a protagonist born on a plantation as a slave that escapes to the north and fights in the Civil War before moving west and becomes the lawman you spoke of.
Imagine you do a sheiff storyline and at the end of the game you see all the cops that you become rivals with going to the black water robbery, so except you see the cops point of view!!!!
I think the ultimate Red Dead 3 would have Landon Ricketts as the main character. He jumped from both an outlaw and lawman, his past is a mystery, and it'd be awesome to see him in his prime. And I think it would connect the stories well. We see the Old West at it's end in RDR1, we see it begin to end in 2, and we see it in it's prime in 3.
The lawman/vigilante theme actually perfectly fits Landon ricketts character. Maybe we could get a young version of him just starting out in the world as our main character
I'd love a game about young Uncle and it turns out his stories were mostly true or he'd changed events and you saw the real thing. And in his day he was a badass gunslinger, his redemption was becoming a peaceful, lazy man surrounded by killers
Absolutely loved this! I’ve also spent so much time thinking asking myself the same questions. Love the idea of running in to young Arthur and John etc, maybe going on a few missions with them. Perhaps through this we could also get a better idea about Dutch and who he really is. As in, was he always the guy he was at the end of red dead 2, deep down, or did he genuinely start out with good intentions and really cared about the gang, rather than just using and leading them astray. It would also be amazing to run into some historical characters like the Earps, Bass Reaves, The James gang, the wild bunch, billy the kid and the regulators etc and do missions with them. Perhaps rob a bank with the James Younger gang, go bounty hunting with Wyatt Earp or bass reaves or play poker with wild bill Hickok - or even be one of his deputies. Actual historical towns like dodge and tombstone would be amazing too. Perhaps you could be present while events like the gun fight at okay corral take place. As it’s a western game I think leaning in to western “tropes” like said would definitely be the way to go for me too. That lone gun slinger, wanderer, somewhere in between “good and bad”, perhaps out for revenge (think the man with no name, harmonica, Roy Goode etc) as the protagonist is an absolute win. The 1880’s - peak Wild West era - would be the perfect back drop too! That time would give a little bit of everything! Amazing video and excited to see what comes 🙌🙌🙌
"You're the local hardman, huh?" "Real frightening." The Antagonize lines of Arthur and John were so good. Your wishlist is perfect, most of your ideas, but especially #23 to #27, fully resonate with me.
14:35 if the game is actually set in the 1860s and early 70s, i hope rockstars makes actually good clothing options for online characters this time, if they don’t add flowy ponchos, belts that actually fit, shawls, bonnets and crinolines/bustles (and the option to get them off whenever we need to) i’m gonna be so disappointed but not surprised
Young Hosea. Ticks all the boxes. I know, no more van der linde gang. But this gang is kinda what the entire series is all about. Since he's the oldest and wisest of the gang, he could have a completely unrelated history before meeting Dutch. Since he's so charismatic and knows how to talk to the law and bandits alike, it would fit that he used to be a lawman who became disillusioned. Isn't he 50-ish in RDR2? He could be super young, like 20-30, 1860-1870, where he's a soldier in the Civil War in the beginning of the game. Then meets Dutch near the end of the game. Also, map, take the size of the full RDR2 map and doube it to the west with SF on the far west end. This would keep continuity, but make it different enough.
I've been thinking a bit about the wanted and honour systems. I'd like if chasing down witnesses felt a little more worthwhile. I always end up getting caught in a random encounter fight, then some npc finds me too near the bodies, I run after them to convince them not to report and they end up shooting at me, maybe a more flexible system where witnesses are easier to talk down if they didn't directly see you commit a crime. Also looting corpses shouldn't make you lose honour. They're not going to miss it!
Yes to all of this, particularly the lawman storyline. What about a Wyatt Earp type character? Imagine riding out with the Earps and Doc Holiday? Or maybe you could have a multi character story where you played as both a lawman and the bandit he's pursuing? Like playing as both a Pat Garrett type and a Billy the Kid type? But definitely love the idea of the golden age of the west. For sure has to be earlier time period.
Rdr lawman would be a damn masterpiece. But what I REALLY want is more drip. The lack of Panchos and eyepatches and even things that the gang wore really angered me
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Nobody wore ponchos in the old west, they were outdated by duster coats, unless you were like some homeless guy living in Mexico in the year 1835. It gets tangled on alot of stuff and is annoying to wear. You also need a reason to wear a poncho, a poncho is worn to protect your clothes from the dust and sand, but theres no desert to explore as Arthur and John, well John is a rancher.
RDR2 tried to be historically accurate with clothes instead of going with the hollywood style, same reason why there are no belt loops in the game
@@Ao19222Maybe you’re right, but in the movies like once upon a time in the west and good bad and ugly they wore ponchos, so it makes me feel more of a cowboy or wanted man than having no poncho.
@@faas9806 sure, if there were deserts in rdr2 that you could actually get into, maybe a few outstanders would wear them including arthur. and also some del lobos npcs still have ponchos in the game. A long poncho like CLINT EASTWOOD would break some animations too as it would interfere with drawing out your gun etc. Thats why John had a short boxy poncho in rdr1.
It also sucks how pretty much all of the vests fit a fancy city outfit, theres not many outlaw vests you can purchase
I would love a Lawman/vigilante game, having it where the "redemption" in the game is when the lawman redeems himself of the corrupted system he is in. I also love the idea of a young man wrapped up in a gang (perhaps the Van Der Linde one) and the "redemption" in that game is him leaving to start a family, and after we play as a young Arthur Morgan for the epilogue. Realistically, we're getting Mac Callander for RDR3, as he was being built as this massive character in Arthur's life and has some of the same story beats that Arthur had.
But Mac died as a bad man according to charles.
Did you finish the game? Its clear that we will probably play as Sadie. I mean for crying out loud the character Mac is only talked about during chapter 1 and 2. Its just exposition bro nothing more.
Or not be a redemption just have it as a new red dead title
@@Itsnothing389 have you seen the cut content my friend? It seems to me as if there's a lot of stuff about him.
@@viruspter1dactl I'm pretty sure the wordage was "angry"
Flipping the other games' west meets east would be neat. You'd start out in a caravan of pioneers from an east coast city bound for California with plans to tame the west, but gradually become more disillusioned with society as the journey progresses further into wild country. Civil War deserter turned bushwhacker would also go hard.
I never thought of having San Francisco but it sounds like a great idea. Also the 1860's setting, so much was happening back then besides the civil war, id love to go south of the border and experience the Mexican Empire, actual vaqueiros or just the western part of America in general. I really hope rdr3 goes this direction.
A map of Mexico and Central America would be amazing, the late 1800s was a volatile time for that region which would make for some exciting high energy missions.
the funny part is that mexico in the 1860s was having a civil war at the same exact time
Going down to Mexico and running into Apache's etches endless possibilities.
@@Tsudkyk I'd expect alot of Blood Meridian references if not inspiration for the main campaign.
The Glanton gang was messed up and would have alot of synergy with the previous games I think. Also it'd have native tribes be a big role in the story again.
I dont think we need to have a big connected world for it to be really good honestly. Tho it would be cool to see Arthur, Dutch, maybe a young Hosea or the already known natives.
(I'd love to see big foot again though #justiceforsasquatch)
The problem with going back much further than the 1870s is the lack of technology that made the “wild west.” Sure, the civil war might be fun to explore, but we’d be getting into shootouts with muzzleloaders and percussion cap revolvers. I don’t think that would work very well
I want a game that takes place somewhere around 1873-77 because that was the peak of the Outlaw Era in the Wild West. That was when Outlaws weren’t just lowdown criminals running from a country, a world, that didn’t want them anymore. They were icons they were as famous as they were feared. Heroes and Villians. We could see the Tatum Brothers and Otis Miller and the 5 Gunslingers from RDR2. You would be an Outlaw trying to reach the level of Otis Miller and Jim ‘Boy’ Calloway.
Calloways level is just a lot of bunk, plato, just a lot of bunk! XD
I want them to go more crazy like Red Dead Revolver
I hope we could be Frank Heck.
Native American or Civil War redemption story would be awesome
Typical white man fantasy, why would u wanna play such a racially charged era.🙄
Yes bro I’d 100% play one based around being a native. The story beats of living a dying way of life is basically built in, it works, and it’s super unique with a ton of possibilities
PLEASE! Not the tired old “dances with tears” native story again. It’s done to death, and it’s the ONLY direction that they would ever take a native story.
I don't want to be an Indian in a game. Just let the story take place in 1870's. And also let us be someone like Jesse James type of character where we work together with other outlaws and so on..
@@Kvs-vf9nt done before and prob has exact same story elements as past two games. Outlaw does outlaw stuff with outlaws before he dies by the sunset… I wanna play something new
I think a blood meridian type of story would be cool where you play as a young gangster that eventually grows into a law man after doing horrible acts
I’d personally like a Lawman story. Historically speaking, folks like Wyatt Earp and Henry Newton Brown played on both sides of the law.
I imagine your character being a Marshal in the 1870s having that internal conflict of being a legalistic vs laissez-fair in a frontier town. Corruption would be a great theme.
I think back to RDR1’s intro when Jenny asks the preacher, “It's so confusing, Father. Sometimes, I find it impossible to make the distinction between a loving act and a hateful one. I mean, they often seem to be the same thing.”
I completely agree that the Van Der Linde Gang story is complete. My favorite Wild West story is the Lincoln County War. I think a cattle baron war would be cool in a landscape like the heartlands and west elizabeth with the option to go into the mountains to be a mountain man. That timing doesn’t align great but that’s my favorite thing to do.
11:41 man, when you said running into Lyle Morgan, that’s perfect. I could see rockstar making it to where Lyle is talking about his son and how he hasn’t been a good father. It would be great to find out he actually did care about Arthur, he just was caught up in a bad lifestyle. Knowing rockstar though, he’d probably just be a drunk at the bar or something 😂
As an Australian I really want a game set in the Australian gold rush. Its such a rich and underrated part of history that even other Australians don't know much about. Having a video game set then playing as a bushranger would be so cool with people actually finding out about it and learning about the era. Doesn't even need to be an RDR game or made by Rockstar, an Assasins Creed game could be almost as good (if Ubisoft doesn't screw it up)
Yeah
Perhaps the game could start with the protagonist in England and follow his journey all the way to the Blue Mountains.
Exploring 19th century Sydney would be awesome too!
We can play getting screwed over by the govt and mining companies. Eureka didnt end well. Though we have bushrangers to explore... Problem in Australian civilisation was very small then, ballarat isnt that big or exciting game wise. We didn't have the violence or crime like America.
could be a cool idea plus they could also include elements of the Australian frontier skirmishes that took place with aboriginals, they could also include a place you could travel to based off new Zealand and its conflicts with the natives
Babe, wake up, Henry Films posted another RDR video!
Sign me up for the Lawmen Story, maybe thats how your honor level could be used in RDR3, possibly if you had low honor you resign from being a sheriff and if you keep high honor you decided to stay a sheriff.
I think the story could be fabulous but it would take so much away from open world the best part about rdr2 for me was the ability to do anything like kill anyone rob anyone and rob shops and generally a lawman would be to restricted in what they can actually do
@@Joe-fy9uyhe could be a crooked lawman
@@Joe-fy9uy Didn't stop the True Crime series from allowing you to break the law.
The native american storyline from RDR2 was one of the best parts of the game, I wish they would show more of those people’s cultures. I love to find items and points of interest around the map that tap into this side of history. My character in RDOnline was a native american as well and I loved roleplaying as such, stealthing my way into enemy camps with my bow and arrow, bringing out the tomahawk for the brutal kills. It’s awesome.
The problem with the Lawman idea is you cant commit crimes or do shenanigans in freeplay for story reasons until you turn bad. And nobody wants the freeplay to be like Rhodes in Chapter 3
that might be cause we play as arthur and get attached to his character and the people he surrounds himself with, he was never a lawman, and noone expected him to be like one or act like one, so you dont feel free to do what youve been expecting to do, or expect him to do. but if it was about a lawman, the in world random events could be you stopping some sort of criminal, or going to a gang camp or hideout and taking it out. idk just a thought. sorry if that didn’t make sense im kinda faded
also rhodes sucks in that sense cause it ristricts you and doesn’t give much in return, i think if being like a lawman felt and actually gave me more gameplay options and events it would have been more fun, ight im done yappin!
That's not entirely true. It just hasn't been done before. It could easily be a story about the morality of law in the west and how you grapple with that as a lawman. The freeroam could let you be as evil as you want, just the end state is avoiding getting caught and the low honor and perhaps some gameplay penalties in free roam. (Maybe local Sherrifs and law man won't help you in free roam or something if you get into a scrap because they know of your reputation.)
It might seem like it would feel wrong to play as an unethical lawman but we so often forget pretty much every single adult member of the Van Der Linde Gang is a terrible, horrible person. Even Arthur. The nuances of the story come in when you get to know them.
The game could also change up what you want to do, by shifting the free roam gameplay from focusing on the outlaw cowboy stuff to more focused, repeatable and engaging missions about stopping criminals, raining hideouts and stuff. Like imagine if the camps you raided and crimes you stopped actually had an effect on the world? Something akin to the Stalker Clear Sky Warfare system. RDR2 is great, and it's world feels alive. But the free roam is essentially divorced from the narrative. Stuff you do outside of missions doesn't have any effect on the world.
EDIT: To clarify, people like going on rampages in Sant Denis because the gunplay and world of RDR2 is amazing. But there aren't a lot of free roam locations to use it. You can ride around and wait for bandits to find you or something, or you can raid gang hideouts. But those are unmarked and hard to find. You wouldn't need to be able to go on a rampage, if say there were marked, dynamic and fun side activities where you could kill. Say, marked known areas where local gangs are known to base, hunting down bounties, stopping dynamic bank or train robberies. RDR2 is a masterpiece, but it economically focuses on what's important to it's experience, so those kind of things are not realized out to their full potential.
The idea is not you play as a lawman, but a lawman turned vigilante/criminal. So your problem is irrelevant, because if the player wants to be a criminal, then they will be a criminal in the story.
I mean assassin's creed rogue did that and it was one of the last good assassins creed games
The Kelly Gang story. But take it from Australia to Americas wild west. Local hero becomes notorious outlaw/highwayman in the gold rush. Takes an entire town in a siege. Spruik independence for Irish settlers in a British colony. Build ups to a battle between the gang and the army.
13:37 I totally agree with this. I've had both weed and alcohol and they do not make your vision all blurry and change colors. It's kind of hard to potray the actual feeling you get but I think the Rdr1 way was as close as you can get with all the stumbling around.
I think an interesting option would be a classic empire building story where we’re an ex-Soldier of the Civil War and we come out west and we try to establish a ranching empire and build up a town in the most lawless territory and have to fight off everyone but if you play like the Duttons of Yellowstone, it all burns down but if you play it like John Wayne, the town defends you
This is actually pretty good, we could even meet Dutch’s father in a side mission since it’s mentioned he died at Gettysburg. Which would slightly connect the game to the others
Your lawman idea is cool. Going along with your idea of a lawman who becomes dissuaded with the powers that be, I could see something like "Training Day" but set in the wild west.
I love the lawman to vigilante storyline because we get to play as a law man and experience the transition and the vigilante. So fun! ❤
You opened my mind with that, an entire wild West game with only one Indian backstory in the whole game, they do need more.
I love the idea of expanding outward west, theres so many ideas in my head for a red dead threes map, a redwood forest area with a town that’s almost a mix of rhoads and Strawberry, a cramped San Fransisco inspired city on the coast, and a county based off the red rocks in Colorado just to name a few. We hear that Sean joined in the game in north Elizabeth, which brings up ideas of a less harsh Ambarino containing a coal mining town in the foot hills. Another cool idea is a new region of the Grizzles, as micha joined in a bar in the grizzles, maybe there could be a tavern on the road for travelers? Not a full on settlement but just a few houses and a large bar and inn. I also think the idea of a man coming out to Thives Landing would be an awesome idea, joining the law force there imagining life on the west as your stereotypical good guys vs bad guys narrative, only to realize that the police were pains off, hence the name thieves landing, and that live in the west is truly a lot more morally grey than it seems. And when his family dies of cholera, he hangs up his badge and begins traveling the country, trying to bring overs the dream life on the prairie he never had, possibly inspiring a young Dutch. Or, in the case of a low honor route, he gives up on life, and does the bidding of a corrupt lawman, roaming the frontier doing dirty business with gangs and locking people away for not paying things like protection.
4:20 is just the description of the outlaw josey wales
Great movie
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Same brother 🇬🇧
I’m on shrooms bro
Drugs aren’t personality traits
@@LeeY0uTube sound like u can’t hang
What you said about seasons was spot on I’ve always thought Roanoke ridge needed an autumn setting as it’s based on Appalachia which has stunning autumns
I want a game like where you play as a 16-20-year-old kid in Missouri in the civil war or a bit before the civil war 1855-1859. Where you are a former confederate guerrilla during the war you were with a Willam Quantrill or Bloody bill Anderson type character. I think after the war the main character should become a gunfighter. Or start his own gang (like most of the former confederate guerrillas did after the civil war). After like a few chapters he leaves the gunslinger or outlaw life he starts a family until an old gang member/bounty hunters attack his home and hurts his family. Injured and dazed he rides to a town, and he gets patched up and he starts his quest for vengeance. I forgot to mention after the war he moves west so he could have a better start his gunfighting/outlaw career.
Josey wales
Ride with the Devil and Josey Wales come to mind. Absolutely support this, we have NEVER had a Civil War ERA open world game. To encounter the atrocities and horrors of the Civil War, ESPECIALLY the Western Campaign, where it actually was Neighbor vs Neighbor, friends and families torn apart over the war. It would be an absolute masterpiece.
The problem with being that far back is we’d be getting into shootouts with muzzleloaders. Wouldn’t work well for a game that revolves around gunfights and shootouts
@@malcolmvinson777 Brother, there where a plethora of repeating firearms during that time. RDR2 already has two cap and ball revolvers, adding a couple high powered single shot rifled muskets wouldnt be an issue. The Spencer, the Henry, the Sharps, the Burnside carbine, and countless other either repeating or breach loading cartridge guns existed during this time period and would be almost indistinguishable from the weapons of rdr 2
@@malcolmvinson777 the henry rifle was made in 1861.
I think RDR3 could still be about the Van Der Linde gang. I would enjoy a game about the dude arthur talks about when playing Dominoes with Tilly. He talks about a "traitor" that Dutch killed in the camp. Maybe this character could've had some sort of redemption like Arthur did. Maybe he saved an enemy of the Van Der Linde gang that he had a secret relationship with or something. And it would be before red dead redemption 2 which would link up with how the games go back in the timeline. And we don't know anything about him other than he is an unnamed "traitor", which isn't a big spoiler for the game
@mr.melendez3872 😭💀💀
No
Enough with the Vander Linde Gang
A lot of people talk about having Landon Ricketts as the protagonist but I think it should be someone who road with him so we don’t know his fate also they i think they should use one of the people on gunslinger cigarettes cards to give some world building
The perfect person to use is Bart love cuz he’s on a card and we know nothing about him
Also have a girlfriend or wife that you can flirt with and sleep with don’t show anything tho I wouldn’t be able to get the game if that happens
Maybe in the high honor ending you leave go have kids and the game end no epilogue or ability to play that might be stupid idk
There's one major hangout I have about a civil war setting and that's GUNS. Most of the rifles, shotguns and revolvers were percussion and required black powder to fire making reloading a hassle. There were however ways to circumvent this problem, such as the use of paper cartridges and the Remington Model 1858's ability to swap an empty cylinder with a fresh one. There also was The Lefaucheux M1858 pin-fire revolver a predecessor to the colt 1872 army. Other than that there would only be 2 repeaters in the game, the Henry and the Spencer's carbine as the Yellow-boy repeater wasn't accessible until 1866. So yeah, not a lot of variety.
I might be late but didn't GTA 4 have like 3 rifles 2 pistols and 2 snipers?I mean yeah it is kinda bad but ignoring that issue for what the game could be seems fair to me
I absolutely love the lawman/vigilante story idea and how awesome that story could be, an idea i had for that story I had was maybe every person you hunt down you can either kill them or bring them in and watch them get hanged, and the title i thought of is pretty sick ( Red dead revenge ) Great video as always
My personal pitch is for the Klondike.
-Sled dogs, horses, canoes
-deeply rural beautiful country for a game space
- Small gold mining towns, ports, and prospector camps ideal for spacing out key towns and areas
- we actually get to use the Trapper clothes from RDR2
- Lawless due to under sized law force to control the new frontier
- Start as an outlaw in the west, and flee on a boat north.
- Plenty of native tribes for those interested in that.
- Still portrays the wilds meets civilization theme.
- Northern Lights
- Russians, Fur Traders, Canadians
- Log Cabins
- Polar bears, Seals, etc.
Sled dogs yes I love that idea also the fur traders and more trapper clothing as well. I just wanna play like a mountain man
They should make bounties more of a process. Instead of picking up a poster and just riding out somewhere outside of town, you would ride out and find that they'd left recently, and you have to track them down to their next stop, maybe you catch up to them but they give you the slip, maybe even after you catch them. Maybe you have to ask around to find out where they went. Maybe you encounter other bounty hunters and you could choose to kill them or hinder their progress or even team up and split the bounty. Maybe if you wait to bag a bounty it goes up but the criminal becomes deadlier.
Hear me out, Landon Rickets in the Civil War. Call it Red Dead Rebellion or something like that, I think the Read Dead Redemption storyline had a perfect finish and doesn't need to be ran dry.
I feel like it should follow Bart love, because he is the only one of the legendary outlaws who we don’t know anything about.
i think the concepts of american civil war and native wars are incredible,including the caravans of the pioneers. the 60s of the 19 century are the best timeline option. the story of a lawman becoming a vigilante is also a great idea man, and i want to include the idea of not also build your ranch like john did, but building your own town, maybe at the end of the game, because in the 60s the west is mostly nature and there are a few villages and cities. you made a great video man the best ideas for rdr3 i saw so far . keep going ❤️💪🏻
My hope for a while has been for the series to fully shift to Mexico for a Red Dead Revolución kinda thing, since I loved the parts of the first game that took place south of the border, get that full Mexi-Western vibe with a bandido-revolutionary main character. I definitely think a brother-sister duo would work there too - one's committed to the cause, the other just wants the outlaw life. Could be some pretty cool biomes too - you got your deserts, your gulf-coast jungles, some towns and cities, could have some old Mayan temples, that kinda thing. Like you say, just spit-ballin.
With that said, your lawman-vigilante concept really scratches that old-fashioned Spaghetti Western itch and I'm so fuckin down for that. With you 100% on the need to go back to the Golden Age and westward too. We've done that melancholic death-of-a-way-of-life thing for two games and it can't be bettered by something further down the road. Time for the full, old west gunslinger experience.
Red Dead Revolución is such a sick title and would be such a cool game concept. I think of Clint Eastwood’s character in Two Mules for Sister Sarah. You could be a hired gun for the revolutionaries and have missions blowing up bridges, etc.
I like the lawman idea but I'd keep him a lawman throughout the game. Imagine him being the change the law needed in his region.
But I almost got to say that playing as an native american who's fed up and angry could work so well too. He could be a loner who's always angry but learns that life still has its good sides so at the end he leaves his hate behind.
Another one I'd like is revisiting Mexico. Abraham Reyes could be either the or one of the antagonists. Miranda Fortuna is also alive, so she could be an reacuring character. Mexico also seems to be more lawless and chaotic during this time, so we don't need to worry about WW1 too much.
We could be playing as Jack Marston who is laying low in Mexico and is now fixing what John, in a sense, caused. But we could also just have a new MC. I'd prefer if Jack didn't turn into a mass shooter and managed to change course.
I would love to play as a Native American in a large tribe
That would be awesome. I'm totally for that idea
I never really thought about this but I'd absolutely love it
Just play This Land Is My Land then
Play as a Eagle flies type character defending your lands from the imperialists US Army
@@cohengamertv6548 exactly, but I would hate to play as Eagle Flies himself. It would just feel lazy to go back to the same map with returning characters because their story is already finished
A game where you play as Landon Ricketts in his prime would meet a lot of things on your list. You could start off with him in his youth as a novice and slowly turn into the legendary gunslinger. As far as I know (I'm no RDR lore expert), he was never an outlaw or a bad guy, so it would be an interesting experience compared to RDR1 and 2. He's basically THE vigilante gunslinger in the RDR universe.
Or we could play as Black Belle. They said she killed more men than Landon Ricketts, Cholera, and heartbreaks combined.
a day of the dead inspired read dead game/DLC would be so cool... you can't lie an red dead redemption style game with black and neon day of the dead type themes wouldn't go insanely hard
undead nightmare 2 must happen
3:50 this story ballad of buster scruggs actually made me so sad
One of the biggest crimes of RDR2 was not keeping the Skinner brothers as a Native American tribe. As it stands, they are essentially the Mufree brood 2.0 but they could've been so freaking badass. It fits canocially, as this would have been the tribe that Dutch would've used and manipulated in RDR1. It's stupid that they wanted to be politically correct, because it wasted such a cool opportunity. After all the depressing storylines of the Natives dying off, the last ones going to war, Rains Fall losing his son, etc, it would've been so cool and refreshing to suddenly start seeing them merc people in Tall Trees. You'd even be able to pick up hats and their weapons, and along with some crafted items and clothes, you could've roleplayed as a Native out for revenge! or Justice! or something! screw the politics that deprived us of all these opportunities!
My dream for sometime has been chapter 1 in the civil war, some injustice spits you out of the army, and then journey to vigilante/lawman happens. Deadwood, Tombstone, etc
Dude these are amazing ideas.
My dad always had the idea of playing as Dutch, as a union deserter, during or shortly after the civil war. Would be pretty cool I think, give more of an inside look to the development of his psyche maybe show how originally his intentions were pure but his seflish and pyscho tendencies led him down a wrong path perhaps due to horros witnessed in the war
I can fw this idea man. Honestly I'd like to see arthur take the role john did in rdr 2. Explore the gangs origins
I would really like it to at least include the year 1875 at the earliest because I NEED the Remington 1875. What a beautiful revolver. I would think maybe a long stretch of years ranging from civil war to a journey out west ending in maybe early 1880s.
The best rdr3 wishlist/theory video I've seen so far! Great video!
I think haunted locations would be cool I mean we have the haunted battlefield in rdr2. Also let me make time accurate soldier uniforms and give the npcs the ability to comment on your outfit depending on where you're at
it would be interesting if the main character is a slave who escapes and goes west where he does his stuff (maybe he could join a tribe and foght against other tribes or the military) and after quite a time the american civil war starts and he joins the north and fights for them, maybe he fights against his old friends who where forced to fight for there evil boss or something like that.
Thank you for mentioning the holsters
I agree with this whole list, but I wish you could wear a pocket watch on your vest and to smoke a pipe maybe a corncob or a briar
I'd like to play as a deserter of the civil war. Maybe a group of deserters form a gang, could be a cool angle. The gang part might even be a little overdone, maybe more of a loner character.
That would be awesome
I would love a Story set during the Civil War.
It would be neat to see the story of what is going on since we hear so much about it. Maybe even include a young Rains Fall and Lindsey Wofford. Maybe the Wapiti sides with the Confederates and it begins their spiral down to where they are in 1899 amd 1907. And maybe even see the start of the Lemoyne Raiders. Would be a major side plot and you the character takes up work for both sides.
Would be cool to see the Battle of Scarlet Meadows and the Union capture of St. Denis. And maybe throughout the world you see fights between the Union and the Wapiti and Confederates. Maybe even have troops of the 3rd Lemoyne doing guerilla tactics just as a nod that these guys one day will become the Lemoyne Raiders.
It would suck having to use muskets and single shot Breachloaders, but it would make revolver play more prominent and Repeaters a bit more special. Effectively you have to play like a gunslinger which will be fun.
Like your starting guns can be the Kentucky Rifle and the Colt 1851 or Colt Patterson.
For other long arms stuff like the Springfield Musket can boast higher accuracy and power, the Sharps being a quick loading mid power rifle, Repeater Carbine, and the Litchfield. Plus maybe the Colt Revolving rifle.
For shotguns maybe include a single shot and double barrel.
For Sniper Rifles the Whitworth is a must have.
Finally for the revolvers I would suggest the following.
Colt Paterson or Colt 1851 as the simple starting gun. Colt Dragoon/Walker as the powerful Pistol, LeMat and its 8 shots and Shotgun, Savage Navy being a pseudo double-action, Remington Army as the speed loaded revolver, and finally the Sawed off Shotgun.
And finally the bow, but maybe have like a shortbow and longbow thing going one. Like the shortbow is weaker, but more accurate and the longbow is stronger, but less accurate.
something I always thought would be great is maybe a bandito from Mexico similar to Javier where you fled Mexico leaving your family or something within the first couple of chapters and you come to America heading to san Fransisco in search of gold trying to be a millionaire to pay off your bounty and get your family back or something, OR a Native American basically who got kicked out his tribe and became an outlaw or maybe a lawman him redeeming himself within his tribe and getting them land or something being his arch, or lastly a runaway slave heading northwest for freedom and becomes a lawman because his dad always talked about justice idk lol just ideas I always think about
Nice that you didn't just say "MOAR ARTHURR" like a lot of people have been doing. I love your taste in Westerns, and the Civil War idea is very cool. Only extra thing I'd add is like duelling competitions or the option to trigger them more easily, I used to love duels from Revolver and there weren't enough in the newer games.
Love your videos man, amazing ideas bro 😎
Younger Hosea running a con could be a really fun stranger mission.
A cool idea would be a game that follows the Challendar brothers from rdr2, you could swap between them like in gta5 and there could be two-player coop
This may not be the best idea for a red dead game but a game focusing on the Underground Railroad around the civil war could tell a pretty interesting story. Probably be called Red Dead Railroad
I think It should revolve around 1855 1870. Arthurs Father and mother and young Arthur meeting the Gang Dutch and Hosea.
Yeeees! I'd love that, bonus if after the main game you could continue to play as Arthur, just like you could with John in rdr2
Arthur's mother died when he was very young and he said he watched his father die and that was all before he met Dutch
Arthur met Dutch in 1879 bud, after his parents died and before the gang was formed
1877 but yeah that leaves 22 years until blackwater to draw stories and gameplay from. Utilizing any member of the gangs sides of the story . I find that more appealing than the supposed medieval them they are planning on possibly making.
No dawg leave those characters their story is done time for someone new
Man a Mexican gang would be amazing
Landon Ricketts' story would be awesome as well. We can play through his wild west life, we'll know what made him a famous gunslinger, we can have huge time skips which could implement the season changes and see him age until 1899 where he witnessed the Blackwater Massacre, and then end up in Mexico, where he retired until he met John. But the lawman storyline would definitely be sick.
I see you're as insane about red dead 2 as I am
I think a Van der linde gang origin story makes sense. A truly Wild West, we hear the gang reminiscing of the past just like how John talked of the past in the first game.
Perhaps a Civil War section could involve that civil war vet from Rhodes, maybe also involving the siege of that fort north of Saint Denis.
For me I’d say 1850’s to 1870’s would be the perfect slice of time for a Civil War type story, maybe moving out west in the 50’s then getting caught up in the civil war in the 60’s, then in the late 60’s-70’s getting involved in the reformation (like freeing slaves and dealing with people like Compton). Then maybe the epilogue could be getting disillusioned with how awful the southerners still are after all that work and moving to the north west, perhaps temporarily becoming a lawman in a place like Colter along the way. Then finally settling down in a small town and owning a shop in your retirement, and the rest of the epilogue can just be the daily operations of the store, also donating to the community so it can grow kinda like how the camp worked.
I think the Oregon trail would be a great side quest or even the main point in the game. Like the point is for the protagonist to survive and help others in the wagon train survive the way to their destination. Either that's surviving harsh weather fighting bandits, natives, wild animals, or even themselves would make a cool game to play. Or the main character is the wagon master, or just a settler with a dream to live in the new frontier.
I also believe one of the most underrated people of the wild west were mountain men. Mountain men were great men usually trappers that explored the west helping mapping, being scouts for the army, trail guides for wagon trains, people sent to make peace with native Americans. And they had the coolest adventures. We could have someone from St Louis and they seek adventure and join a trapping party going to the Missouri river, which was a famous spot for trappers to trap for beaver, and they go through hardships and their personal character builds on the experience they gain in the frontier. They can help people who are lost in the wilderness, help or fight natives, and much more adventures from the lifestyle of a mountain man.
In RDR2 they talk about a time with the gang was separated for a couple months or years before black water. Arthur and Hosea got separated from Dutch and John, each having their own groups to look after. I believe the next game will be set in this time. Roughly 1897, and you will play as both Mac and Davey Callander
i can't agree more on the snow map. i LOVED when the snow was added to the full map as a christmas event in Red dead online. It was AMAZING. We need MORE games in snow.
The natives would never be portrayed as enemies. Modern politics hinder this
It sucks but you’re right
No they absolutely could be. I don't know why you're saying this because Rockstar would have encounters where you fight them.
There is potential for them to be added if it was left to interpretation on who the bad guy was
The california gold rush would be a perfect setting
I've been saying it for years now, playing as a Pinkerton who is hunting down the old wild west gunslingers.
You've been spewing that trash for years?
@@SIEGTHEGOATFRFR literally decades now 🙏
Refuse to have a Pinkerton protagonist when all those dudes were doing in real life was gunning down striking workers
@@yonathantaye1797the fact they’re the biggest slimes in the game and STILL weren’t even remotely close to as bad as they were irl is hilarious. What’s even funnier is that despite how NICE rockstar did them relatively, the irl organisation SUED them
@@Virgil191 LMAO that's actually hilarious lore
Complete masterpiece of a video, took me from despising the idea of an RDR3 to dying on my knees slobbering for these ideas to come to life
for the wanted system you have to change clothes because npcs can remember how you dress if you've done crime already in the town. There are videos about it that can explain it more.
Your ideas are the best ive heard from this topic. Really hoping this pans out!
This is my idea for RDR3
RDR3 Story Idea
It’s 1914, Isaac Morgan, now age 26, is on the tail of a mysterious outlaw who killed his mentor Agent Ross. Isaac, was thought to be killed by a group of bandits with his mother in 1894, but in reality his mother Eliza faked their deaths and tried to find a better life elsewhere. Isaac was raised by his mother to be a very good man, and always had a calling at being a lawman. Isaac became a lawman at 19 years old in 1907 and then came under the leadership of Agent Edgar Ross in 1911, after the deaths of the rest of the Van Der Linde Gang. Isaac found out that his mentor Edgar Ross was shot to death in a river in New Austin. He goes to investigate this mysterious murder that occurred, and is on the tail of this dangerous outlaw. His investigations lead him across the Eastern part of the United States, stumbling onto various clues, and going from the Center Town in Amabarino all the way to the streets of brimstone, finding his mentors Killer. He stumbles upon Jack Marston, a young kid at the age of 19, and interrogates him. He notices that Jack is wearing a very similar Jacket to his late father’s and questions him on it. Jack and Isaac meet, and the story from there can be interpreted in one way or another. RDR3 map is huge, about 2 times the size of RDR2 and includes the entirety of the RDR2 map, with Mexico, and new additions to the East and Western portions of the map. What do ya’ll think so far?
so like an alternate timeline for arthurs son almost? or are the names just coincidences?
@@thegoosiest no, Eliza faked their deaths to get away from the Van Der Linde Gang.
@@Whispy_Pines0426 oh I see
@@Whispy_Pines0426bro I’m not trying to be mean but what the hell is this goofy ass fan fic idea
Ok so, when I heard the name Lyle Morgan I got a crazy idea, what if there was a prologue where you play as Lyle with young Arthur and Arthur's mom around. The prologue ends with you wiping out all but one person of a family, maybe he has a rare moral moment where he cant bring himself to kill, and that one survivor is the protagonist for the main game. That would make a super interesting setting for a possible run-in with Arthur later on, maybe Arthur recognizes something on your character as something Lyle drunkenly recounted to him as a child, your belt buckle, the hat your wear, a facial feature. Obviously a lot to fill in there but I feel like going back to a crime Arthur's father committed to connect the stories without having a focus on the same characters would be super cool.
I think we will never see a RDR3
ur out of your mind lol
i guess we will. but it will take a loong time.. maybe 2032
A new Red Dead game but not redemption perhaps. We shall see
@@Moonshine449 they’re not ending their franchise by abandoning the core of the damn series lmaoo what do you people smoke
@@alexeios You forget that Redemption was not the first Red Dead game.
I agree with you on not continuing the story of the van der Lin gang. But if we got to see little mentions of some of the characters I think that would be cool
I think that rdr3 is gonna be about the origins of the gang the Van Der Linde gang (MY OPINION)
I hope not
@@artemis-entity4177 why not
@@artemis-entity4177 they do need a new gang tho
Out of all the ideas most people throw around that’s my favorite
I would love to see a story of maybe a lawman, but he has gone crazy during the times of the game, and stumble into the criminal life
i'd love to see an australian take on things with their bushrangers like ned kelly
I’d love to see a lawman/vigilante, but I like the idea of being able to put together a gang from NPC’s you meet along the journey, all to change how the ending of the game plays out depending on who you incorporate into your own gang. Not only a personal honor system, but a gang honor system. I think that could be awesome.
Yo fr dude the wanted system is so weird dude it’s 1899 not 2225 where the police track u with cameras and shit 😂
Facts
Biggest takeaway is the Dutch storyline. Maybe he is the playable character or maybe it was a mentor of his
You're missing the whole point of the game, at this point we don't want a Red Dead Redemption we just want a game set in the wild west.
Red dead revenge 👀
@@lukestevenson7927dude that sounds sick
Yes “Red Dead Redemption” is synonymous with John Marston and the Van der Linde gang and story, if they didn’t include them in the next game they’d have to change the title to something new
Yeah but you know for a fact they're gonna call the next game red dead redemption 3. Look, before rdr2 got announced I expected it would be another red dead with another word like how there was red dead revolver and red dead redemption and if they'd continued that trend I'd have preferred that but when they made a prequel and called it rdr '2' I realized it was never gonna be like that lmao
@bajscast Yeah, but for it to be called Redemption, then you'll need to have Redemption in the game, and I don't see how peak Dutch and Hosea would be having a Redemption, same for Jack.
Idea: a protagonist born on a plantation as a slave that escapes to the north and fights in the Civil War before moving west and becomes the lawman you spoke of.
@@seans145 kinda bass reeves
Civil
Imagine you do a sheiff storyline and at the end of the game you see all the cops that you become rivals with going to the black water robbery, so except you see the cops point of view!!!!
do red dead revolver videos 🙏🏻
I think the ultimate Red Dead 3 would have Landon Ricketts as the main character. He jumped from both an outlaw and lawman, his past is a mystery, and it'd be awesome to see him in his prime. And I think it would connect the stories well. We see the Old West at it's end in RDR1, we see it begin to end in 2, and we see it in it's prime in 3.
The lawman/vigilante theme actually perfectly fits Landon ricketts character. Maybe we could get a young version of him just starting out in the world as our main character
"Think of it as payback, for my daddy."
I'd love a game about young Uncle and it turns out his stories were mostly true or he'd changed events and you saw the real thing. And in his day he was a badass gunslinger, his redemption was becoming a peaceful, lazy man surrounded by killers
Absolutely loved this! I’ve also spent so much time thinking asking myself the same questions.
Love the idea of running in to young Arthur and John etc, maybe going on a few missions with them. Perhaps through this we could also get a better idea about Dutch and who he really is. As in, was he always the guy he was at the end of red dead 2, deep down, or did he genuinely start out with good intentions and really cared about the gang, rather than just using and leading them astray.
It would also be amazing to run into some historical characters like the Earps, Bass Reaves, The James gang, the wild bunch, billy the kid and the regulators etc and do missions with them. Perhaps rob a bank with the James Younger gang, go bounty hunting with Wyatt Earp or bass reaves or play poker with wild bill Hickok - or even be one of his deputies. Actual historical towns like dodge and tombstone would be amazing too. Perhaps you could be present while events like the gun fight at okay corral take place.
As it’s a western game I think leaning in to western “tropes” like said would definitely be the way to go for me too. That lone gun slinger, wanderer, somewhere in between “good and bad”, perhaps out for revenge (think the man with no name, harmonica, Roy Goode etc) as the protagonist is an absolute win. The 1880’s - peak Wild West era - would be the perfect back drop too! That time would give a little bit of everything!
Amazing video and excited to see what comes 🙌🙌🙌
"You're the local hardman, huh?"
"Real frightening."
The Antagonize lines of Arthur and John were so good. Your wishlist is perfect, most of your ideas, but especially #23 to #27, fully resonate with me.
14:35 if the game is actually set in the 1860s and early 70s, i hope rockstars makes actually good clothing options for online characters this time, if they don’t add flowy ponchos, belts that actually fit, shawls, bonnets and crinolines/bustles (and the option to get them off whenever we need to) i’m gonna be so disappointed but not surprised
Young Hosea. Ticks all the boxes. I know, no more van der linde gang. But this gang is kinda what the entire series is all about. Since he's the oldest and wisest of the gang, he could have a completely unrelated history before meeting Dutch. Since he's so charismatic and knows how to talk to the law and bandits alike, it would fit that he used to be a lawman who became disillusioned. Isn't he 50-ish in RDR2? He could be super young, like 20-30, 1860-1870, where he's a soldier in the Civil War in the beginning of the game. Then meets Dutch near the end of the game. Also, map, take the size of the full RDR2 map and doube it to the west with SF on the far west end. This would keep continuity, but make it different enough.
I've been thinking a bit about the wanted and honour systems. I'd like if chasing down witnesses felt a little more worthwhile. I always end up getting caught in a random encounter fight, then some npc finds me too near the bodies, I run after them to convince them not to report and they end up shooting at me, maybe a more flexible system where witnesses are easier to talk down if they didn't directly see you commit a crime. Also looting corpses shouldn't make you lose honour. They're not going to miss it!
Yes to all of this, particularly the lawman storyline. What about a Wyatt Earp type character? Imagine riding out with the Earps and Doc Holiday? Or maybe you could have a multi character story where you played as both a lawman and the bandit he's pursuing? Like playing as both a Pat Garrett type and a Billy the Kid type? But definitely love the idea of the golden age of the west. For sure has to be earlier time period.