I noticed something about rdr2 settlements. The further from the middle of the map the settlement is, the sadder it is. In the top left, we have colter, which is abandoned. In the top right, we have annesburg, a polluted company town with miserable citizens. In the bottom left, we have tumbleweed, a dying western town with barely any people left. And in the bottom right, we have Saint Denis, a suffocating city full of crime. Then you get to the middle of the map and you have valentine, strawberry, and blackwater (kinda), all healthy settlements on the rise.
If RDR1 ever gets a remaster they better include the rdr2 map, it may make the map a bit bigger but it’d be nice to see old characters graves like Sean, Lenny, or even Arthur. Also let’s hope that Valentine and strawberry are still thriving as Annesburg in 1911 is probably shut down due to the death of Cornwall, and Saint Denis is probably way more modernized now and I’d doubt Chief Lambert ever died in the time span of RDR2’s epilogue and RDR1 which is 4 years apart, also let’s hope Malloy is still alive since there wasn’t many crimes you COULD find in valentine besides that guy drowning his wife in the drinking things near the stables near the sheep pens and the killer prostitute, so he’s either alive or died of old age which he doesn’t look THAT old so I’m sure he’d be alive, and strawberry’s new sheriff is probably still alive as well since there’s basically no crime in strawberry tbh so he’s fine.
That's an interesting observation. It reminds me of the real life process of urbanization that was happening at that time. Many rural communities would shrivel up to be replaced by larger semi-urban communities with more diversified economies.
@@Gingersnap_Adventuresif they did that what would be the point of just remastering rdr1 with all that extra space with not much story or stuff to do, plus a lot of it would be industrialized by that point, if they were to do something, it should be to create an rdr3 and make a trilogy with all 3 games combined
I started keeping minty big game meat so i wouldn't get one tapped by silent cougars, turns out it's just as useful during the inevitable Van Horn shootout
As for people hating the epilogue, it seems the majority of the players who disliked it were the same people that didn’t play 1 first. Arthur was such a complex and likable character and that they made John mostly an incompetent member of the gang (being in prison and stranded in the beginning) I felt made people them not like John. For us who played 1, the character build for John made remembering 1 that much better. I loved getting a chance to play as him in 2. Seeing the locations from 1, even as bland as they were was incredibly enjoyable.
What I really like about Rhodes, and what I didn't notice at first, is that it's a really tense place. People there are a bit more quiet, and it's less active when compared to the engagements in Valentine. Without explaining too much you can feel that for it's townsfolk perspective; the place fell from grace. And the town shares a horrible shame that they don't wish to speak about.
I think they were really careful with the Wapiti because they royally messed up their portrayal of indigenous people in RDR1. So this time they were stepping on egg shells trying not to fuck it up as bad. But in order give the Wapiti location the content it deserved they would have had to invest an inordinately larger amount of resources on it to do it right this time. So they took the more economical route and half-assed it.
I mean, I wouldn't say that they messed up the portrayal they aren't just hostile for no reason they are hostile towards people because they're angry of what civilization did to them and also Dutch manipulating them to become violent so I think them being hostile towards the player is justified due to civilization destroying all what they had left and Dutch manipulating them
@@randomvideosirecordedforfu8454 writing the story so that they inexplicably elect a psychopathic white man as their leader is not a good look. They wrote them like a violent mob too stupid or desperate to do anything else but destroy themselves. They're like a horde of sad orcs the player has to mow down in waves. Any commentary on the historical indigenous struggle is superficial and stereotypical. They also wrote in this terrible token Indian man as if to say "see they aren't all bad" but even still they just kill him because they didn't know what they were doing with that character. In the short time he was there he was more defined by his interactions with white characters than he was defined by his own qualities. Charles Smith in RDR2 is the exact opposite, huge improvement in representation there. They didn't just mess up the portrayal it was a disaster.
Considering the genre RDR1 was obviously in, the Natives could've been portrayed far worse. But I guess portraying Natives as villains in any Western story will always have those negative connotations.
I mean.. the moment RDR2 came out it didn't take long before people starting making videos on how they were brutally murdering the early feminist lady in St Denis. So I totally understand why you can't start fighting the natives in Wapiti.
I understand a lot why towns with less of a western feel were lower, but we also have to remember that the game is about the end of the age of outlaws and how the gang is being pushed further back into eastern civilization, away from the free, open west until there’s no more east left to run to.
I've always thought colter was the best. Its so alive and the npcs have so much character. I can't get over the moment in chapter 34 when dutch goes to the colter church and says "on, praise me jesus, for I have come to sniff the cheese". The saloon is so alive, and I love that one prostitute that always gives you the best cheese, man is she hot! Also I couldn't talk about colter without mentioning the amazing birth scene of lennys Jenny in the hurk! Baboo oogabooga does that scene slap! Also dutchs death scene at the brual hands of docta cheese in the house of cheese is so incredible! Overall colter is the best town and you can't tell me otherwise
Colter is a frozen mining town? Wdym? There’s nobody there and there’s no reason to go back there besides for the fossils and a quicker way to get to Flaco Hernandez’s side mission.
I would really enjoy a ranking of all the individual regions within the states, like the Cumberland Forest, Roanoke Ridge, The Heartlands, Great Plains, Big Valley etc. It’ll probably be long but I think it’s a great idea for a video when you have time!
about wapiti: i am indigenous and i honestly agree with u there, the native american rep is great and accurate but jesus christ it is bleak (and an even bleaker reminder to how it STILL affects indigenous communities today, myself included) its kinda why i appreciate eagle flies and rains fall (kinda hate those names too they mean nothing, the names shouldve been more akin to things like "crazy horse" it wouldve suited eagle flies firey personality waaay better,)
I could be absolutely wrong about this so correct me if I’m wrong: Didn’t each name have their own culture when it came to naming? Perhaps Eagle Flies would have been more significant to the culture of the Wapiti. Then again I might be absolutely wrong, not trying to disrespect the culture of the Native American people at all.
Those names absolutely have meaning. 'Rains Fall' is like crying. He's an old man who's seen a lot of pointless death. He mourns for everyone he's lost and he's afraid for what remains of his people. Eagle Flies is proud, impetuous, brave, unwilling to submit to anyone.
@@Lolpy. I mean... yeah... look at it wider, every "tribe" of humanity (ethnicity) uses different names, why would it be different? This is kind of like asking "Do people *_really_* have different names?".
The reason why the saloon and general store are not available to the player is that Annesburg would make their own money and pay workers with that, only being used in the town essentially trapping people there due to lack of funds. Or at least that’s what company towns did at the time. If it was truly realistic, they would not have a gunsmith as it would be too easy to arm up and rebel.
I just started playing RDR2 and I just love the fact that the fanbase for this game is still so alive. U don't see that often for a story-game. So far I love every part of the game, much love!
Manzanita post got absolutely downgraded in RDR2, I never played much of RDR1 (my original PS3 copy had a game-breaking glitch) but I did play RDR: Undead Nightmare and I remember going into the main building and fighting off hordes of zombies with the folk who lived there. All the buildings were explorable, and the whole area in general was very cozy and cool. The people there even let me take anything from the trading post as a gift for helping them, so they made for good companions to speak with. In RDR2, you get a single mission where you pass by them in the Epilogue, and no interiors are used, there's nothing to do, the most interesting part is talking to the people that live there and hearing their unique voice lines since they don't speak much English. Btw just wanted to say I found your channel today, I've been watching lots of your rankings and they are very interesting. 100% subscribed!
I would have loved to have seen a speakeasy in strawberry especially with the lore of general store owner running a moonshine operation out of the basement
“It’s not like strawberry’s got too many big spenders” What about 1898? You could run a moonshine operation there, also What ever happened to Maggie and our character in rdr2, since u can find all the moonshine shacks but can’t enter them, I doubt our characters, Maggie, Lem, and Marcel all died in the span of a year maybe even a few months since I think 1898 takes place in May.
@@Gingersnap_AdventuresI like to think that the outlaw characters heard about the van Der linde gang's downfall and fled. Maggy was quite a smart businesswoman and crips would probably follow after her if she left.
@@Paleolithic_footage that’s a cool theory but where would our character go? Thinking realistically here and depends on what role they mainly had, if they had a bounty hunter role I doubt they’d left although if they were a trader or moonshiner they probably would fled with Maggie and cripps, idk bout the naturalist and collector roles though.
This video was a great trip down memory lane, thanks! With the intent to offer constructice criticism on your commentary and fully acknowledging that this ranking has no claim of being exceptionally critical of the source material, I'd like to ask you what constitutes the "Western" or "Wild Western" feel for you. I mean, your video provides many clues for your perspective on these phrases, but I would like to push back on using such a language, hence my question. It's akin to saying "the Turkish feel, the moustache and the lokum and Istanbul and the darbuka drum" (I'm Turkish btw), and with this example I have in my mind Edward Said's 1978 work "Orientalism" in mind, which simply states that the "Orient" is a caricaturization (not maliciously in every instance mind you, it's simply the way in which Western Europeans categorized the "exotic" Orient and in saying this I have no intention of being condescending or coming across as a pompous ass) of the messy actuality of the totality of the Orient. Since both the "Western" and "non-Western" (using the terms in their colloquial sense) existed concurrently, I believe that the distinction is not only unwarranted in such a ranking when considering one of this game's main objectives (providing an open-world sandbox of the "civilizing", not yet "civilized" world, or "America" at that specific time), but it also lessens the significance of the totality of representation that each place fulfills in game. Lagras showcases the "savages" of the land, Tall Trees or Roanoke Ridge showcases the actual savages; Saint Denis the joys and disparities of civilization, Annesburg its horrors; Armadillo, Valentine, and Blackwater signifying the state of non-industrialized settlements, etc. I think the repeated use of the phrases "Western" and "Wild-Western" in your assessment of these towns does somewhat of a disservice to each settlement individually and to the entire game collectively. This is not to say that my critique invalidates your opinions and your way of commentary, and I have no delusion of sort of editing a video aspiring to have academic qualities. It may very well have to do with being a recent graduate from a social sciences discipline, so feel free to chalk it up to occupational hazard, I sure do. Anyway, my only wish was to provide some constructive feedback and introduce a couple of ideas that may interest you in discussing this topic. None of my comments take away from the entertainment value of your video, and I surely shall check your channel for other videos that may pique my interest. Take care!
I love pronghorn ranch because it’s very close to black bone forest which is so underatted for how useful it is. Several of the master hunter challenges can be completed there alone and the trapper with lake owanjila right next to it is just perfection
This isn't a wild west game, its a game about the last dying breathes of it and the turn of the century. I get the preference for that vibe though 100%! Great vid man!
I get why he wants that, because there... really aren't many wild west games either, and definitely none with rockstar's care, except red dead. But I love rdr's intersection of the old and the new, and saint denis is my favourite city for that reason. I'd love to see something set earlier though
personally, even with the context of the story and the inhabitants i love wapiti and the character and location of it. for me its a great to be emersed but i understand why you put it there. anyhoo good video
Lagras may not be that expansive but it’s a great fast travel location and I love the npcs there the most. It’s lowkey the friendliest place where you can hunt gators and fish for days.
Rhodes is my favorite town and I know how controversial this may be but shady belle is my favorite camp (my arthur free roam save file I actually stopped in shady belle so I could be at the camp and have all the guns of chapter 4 like m1899s and semi autos and shit)
My favorite is strawberry. If I was in that time period put me there. You are in riding distance of amazing hunting areas as well as fishing. It’s a trappers paradise as well as the town looking nice. Game wise I like annesburg. I’m from the south so it reminds me a lot of Tennessee and the Smokey mountains, somewhere I’ve been and relate to. I spend a lot of time just exploring it because it’s scenery I’ve experienced irl
Rhodes feels like home,it is my 3rd favorite town behind Blackwater and Saint Denis. Rhodes just captures Georgia especially north Georgia I live in north Georgia and I see similarities between Rhodes and Georgia small towns I think it’s like Ringgold ga (if you don’t know what Ringgold is ,it’s the town where the locomotive chase stopped at and where Dolly Parton got married) I’m from Catoosa County and Rhodes captures the south perfectly ,and the Annesburg -van horn area looks like Tennessee so much it’s uncanny.
Van Horn?!?!?!? Bro you are crazy 😂😂😂 I go to Van Horn for target practice cause if I stand around for too long someone wants to start a fight. But I agree with number 1 for sure
Jätte bra video. Do you understand any swedish? As a Norwegian I was really excited when I discovered that they actually speaks Norwegian at Manzanita Post. The actors are Norwegian too. It’s impossible to speak like that without being from Norway
Dead last- Armadillo. Literally nobody to shoot 8- Strawberry. Generic n boring. Micah’s mission was fun tho 7- Annesburg. Again, just nothing special, combined with a bunch of guards helping maybe? 6- Rhodes. Similar issue, however the red clay dust in the air could create a cool vibe maybe? 5- Blackwater. Lots of spots to climb(as he mentioned) and plenty of alleyways to wreak havoc upon the town with. 4-Valentine. Nothing too special about the law, just some pretty skilled lawmen. It just happens to be an amazing town to shoot up, given the western look. 3- Saint Denis. The massive foreboding lawforce provides a unique challenge. Alleyways, balconies, and roofs are great to shoot from. Not to mention that the lawmen suck ass in Saint Denis. They just walk right towards you in a shootout. Easy pickings. 2- Tumbleweed. Duh, pinnacle of the west. Plus, Freeman serves as the ultimate boss you have to take down, given that he’s an instant one-shot. Really cool 1- To nobody’s surprise, it’s Van Horn. Lawless, full of random buildings to take cover in, and full of endless cannon fodder for your ultimate pleasure.
@@M1N1molo nobody to shoot? armadillo literally has no law, so you can shoot everyone in the town without getting a wanted level. for me its the complete opposite and i spend most of my time there terrorizing everyone.
I thought it was strange that a bunch of Scandinavians live in Manzanita in the game, which is Spanish for "Little Apple". One would think there'd be a lot of Mexicans in that town.
what do you think of rathskeller fork? that would have to be my favorite place that's not an actual town. i love how the buildings look straight out of nuevo paraiso. they even have a wall over the town like mexico does. i wish the saloon was open in rdr2. and maybe even some more missions and side stuff to do.
Wapiti is really pretty at night, the warm glow from the lights in the tent and they smoke escaping from the top, easily one of the prettiest things to see in the game. It’s a shame I only realised this when I decided to play through the game with no hud.
Controversial take:I hate Saint Denis, the place sometimes glitches/spawns mounted people in front of you crashing into them, it’s a wanted signal waiting to happen with the street brats, people robbing you, and the Lemoyne raiders, only GOOD thing about that place is that it has EVERY single shop in it. Other than that I agree with most of your rankings, and yeah I wish armadillo was better than it is in RDR2 since it’d be a great place to duel people.
@@ArthurMorganismywifeyeah also who even goes to the photographers store in Saint Denis, I’m sure most people forgot there is a photography store in Saint Denis which makes it probably one of the most unused stores the game has in RDR2.
Braithwaith Manor is an amazing place. one of my favorite places to visit it makes me actually sad that this game doesn't allow you to purchase properties because Braithwaith Manor would be such a damn cool place to own. even the place where the workers of the property live is a nice place, directly having a view of the giant river. and the giant barn in the back of the property is very nice. too bad the manor gets destroyed by fire when Arthur and the gang go to rescue Jack from the location. the interior is very damn nice place, especially the bedrooms in the upper level.
Maybe one of the top of my strange opinions, but I don´t like Valentine. It´s something on livestock towns that bothers me - nice facade around and a shit on boots... I really like Strawberry, it is similar to strange-shaped uphill settlement from McCabe and Mrs. Miller (so it´s even prettier under snow). But it really need saloon (where Micah got into troubles). Also there shoud be general store in Annesburg, sorry, not "general" - a company store! Missed oportunity. I have soft spot on Roanoke region and Annesburg for the same reason you like Rhodes - reminds me home.
Ah yes Tumbleweed as an outlaw this is my ideal hideout a place where I work as a bounty hunter for the local law and keep my head low. Of course I got high bounties in all other states but if it gets too much I run back and stock up again in Tumbleweed
I personally wouldn't classify this as a "wild west" game. Idk what I would classify it as, but Wild West really doesn't come to mind. Especially since most of the game is set in the east and deep south.
I've been to lagras in red dead online. All I've been doing is roping people of their horses, hogtying them, then throwing them in the water for the crocs. It was pretty fun.
Number 1 would be the showdown with Micah and Arthur. He was tactically placed so Micah had to take him out, confirming Archibald is a better gunslinger than Arthur.
@@filmsbyhen I forget the name of the movie, but I think Brad Pitt is in it? It's about the murder of some famous cowboy by his "friend". The song I'm talking about is slow and has mostly piano and violins.
@@salchipapa5843 the assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert ford! That film is a masterpiece and I personally think the greatest western of the 21st century. I have a video on the channel where I talk about it. The track is “song for Bob”
the one thing very annoying about RDR2 is how the Trapper in the game is located in some of the most random and far away locations of the map possible, completely removed from any civilization. and some of the locations are even extremely dangerous, close to enemy territory of savages like the Murfrees in Roanoke Ridge or the Skinner Brothers in Tall Trees. or how the Trapper in Big Valley is up on the damn mountain hill, at the edge of the game map. Rockstar really made the Trapper location strange. the Trapper in let's say Tall Trees region of the Skinner Brothers could have just had his shop in Manzanita Post. that would have been perfect. plus, I believe Manzanita Post is a fast travel location and would have been perfect to immediately fast travel there and sell the hides you collected from hunting animals. just a rant of mine. some settlements in the game seriously lack businesses to trade and make shop indeed. even the train could have had some more fast travel points to immediately go to. for example visiting the far northern side of Roanoke Ridge could have benefited from having a functional train station when visiting that Nikola Tesla professor at his lab/electrical tower. the small abandoned shack there right next to the train line is actually interactable. you can sleep inside the shack. I use that place whenever I want to change the time to night because I would hunt down cougars for the pelts to complete the hunter/survival challenges.
The eastern part of the map (Van Horn, Annesburg, Roanoke Ridge, and to a certain extent Saint Denis) has such a sinister aesthetic, traveling through the rainforests or foggy streets reminds you of classic horror scenarios (there's even Nosferatu and ghosts that appear in the game). It's something unexpected in the Wild West, but a welcome surprise. Now what I really miss is Mexico, in my humble opinion, all Mexican cities leave American cities to shame. Awesome video as always.
I deleted rdr2 a while ago because i got bored of the game. I already played the story about 5 times, but this video made me want to install it again idk why
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I noticed something about rdr2 settlements. The further from the middle of the map the settlement is, the sadder it is. In the top left, we have colter, which is abandoned. In the top right, we have annesburg, a polluted company town with miserable citizens. In the bottom left, we have tumbleweed, a dying western town with barely any people left. And in the bottom right, we have Saint Denis, a suffocating city full of crime. Then you get to the middle of the map and you have valentine, strawberry, and blackwater (kinda), all healthy settlements on the rise.
If RDR1 ever gets a remaster they better include the rdr2 map, it may make the map a bit bigger but it’d be nice to see old characters graves like Sean, Lenny, or even Arthur. Also let’s hope that Valentine and strawberry are still thriving as Annesburg in 1911 is probably shut down due to the death of Cornwall, and Saint Denis is probably way more modernized now and I’d doubt Chief Lambert ever died in the time span of RDR2’s epilogue and RDR1 which is 4 years apart, also let’s hope Malloy is still alive since there wasn’t many crimes you COULD find in valentine besides that guy drowning his wife in the drinking things near the stables near the sheep pens and the killer prostitute, so he’s either alive or died of old age which he doesn’t look THAT old so I’m sure he’d be alive, and strawberry’s new sheriff is probably still alive as well since there’s basically no crime in strawberry tbh so he’s fine.
Sorry for the long rant.
That's an interesting observation. It reminds me of the real life process of urbanization that was happening at that time. Many rural communities would shrivel up to be replaced by larger semi-urban communities with more diversified economies.
@@Gingersnap_Adventuresif they did that what would be the point of just remastering rdr1 with all that extra space with not much story or stuff to do, plus a lot of it would be industrialized by that point, if they were to do something, it should be to create an rdr3 and make a trilogy with all 3 games combined
@@JesusisLord756 “that is… kinda brilliant” -Arthur Morgan. 1899
Me in Van Horn: breathes. The entirety of Van Horn: And i took that personally!
So true
I started keeping minty big game meat so i wouldn't get one tapped by silent cougars, turns out it's just as useful during the inevitable Van Horn shootout
Ive greeted people here and got attacked
Same as butcher creek
As for people hating the epilogue, it seems the majority of the players who disliked it were the same people that didn’t play 1 first. Arthur was such a complex and likable character and that they made John mostly an incompetent member of the gang (being in prison and stranded in the beginning) I felt made people them not like John. For us who played 1, the character build for John made remembering 1 that much better. I loved getting a chance to play as him in 2. Seeing the locations from 1, even as bland as they were was incredibly enjoyable.
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agreed, i played 1 afterwards and now i like the epilogue more
I like how between rdr and rdr2 armadilo and tumbleweed switched places
I think you mean roles, not places.
That’s what I’m saying man, I think that’s the point.
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What I really like about Rhodes, and what I didn't notice at first, is that it's a really tense place. People there are a bit more quiet, and it's less active when compared to the engagements in Valentine. Without explaining too much you can feel that for it's townsfolk perspective; the place fell from grace. And the town shares a horrible shame that they don't wish to speak about.
I think they were really careful with the Wapiti because they royally messed up their portrayal of indigenous people in RDR1. So this time they were stepping on egg shells trying not to fuck it up as bad. But in order give the Wapiti location the content it deserved they would have had to invest an inordinately larger amount of resources on it to do it right this time. So they took the more economical route and half-assed it.
I mean, I wouldn't say that they messed up the portrayal they aren't just hostile for no reason they are hostile towards people because they're angry of what civilization did to them and also Dutch manipulating them to become violent so I think them being hostile towards the player is justified due to civilization destroying all what they had left and Dutch manipulating them
@@randomvideosirecordedforfu8454 writing the story so that they inexplicably elect a psychopathic white man as their leader is not a good look. They wrote them like a violent mob too stupid or desperate to do anything else but destroy themselves. They're like a horde of sad orcs the player has to mow down in waves. Any commentary on the historical indigenous struggle is superficial and stereotypical.
They also wrote in this terrible token Indian man as if to say "see they aren't all bad" but even still they just kill him because they didn't know what they were doing with that character. In the short time he was there he was more defined by his interactions with white characters than he was defined by his own qualities. Charles Smith in RDR2 is the exact opposite, huge improvement in representation there.
They didn't just mess up the portrayal it was a disaster.
Considering the genre RDR1 was obviously in, the Natives could've been portrayed far worse. But I guess portraying Natives as villains in any Western story will always have those negative connotations.
I mean.. the moment RDR2 came out it didn't take long before people starting making videos on how they were brutally murdering the early feminist lady in St Denis. So I totally understand why you can't start fighting the natives in Wapiti.
@@BlondieUA-camdidn't one guy feed her to an alligator?
I understand a lot why towns with less of a western feel were lower, but we also have to remember that the game is about the end of the age of outlaws and how the gang is being pushed further back into eastern civilization, away from the free, open west until there’s no more east left to run to.
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I've always thought colter was the best. Its so alive and the npcs have so much character. I can't get over the moment in chapter 34 when dutch goes to the colter church and says "on, praise me jesus, for I have come to sniff the cheese". The saloon is so alive, and I love that one prostitute that always gives you the best cheese, man is she hot! Also I couldn't talk about colter without mentioning the amazing birth scene of lennys Jenny in the hurk! Baboo oogabooga does that scene slap! Also dutchs death scene at the brual hands of docta cheese in the house of cheese is so incredible! Overall colter is the best town and you can't tell me otherwise
I didn’t know colter was in Wisconsin
Colter is a frozen mining town? Wdym? There’s nobody there and there’s no reason to go back there besides for the fossils and a quicker way to get to Flaco Hernandez’s side mission.
@@Gingersnap_Adventures No man in chapter 22 the colter cheese industry sees a boom and millions move to the town
@@dagobahstudios3662 you’re crazy, there’s no such thing as a chapter 22, what kind of red dead game r u playing?
@@Gingersnap_Adventures its a secret chapter you get by riding the tennis boat
I would really enjoy a ranking of all the individual regions within the states, like the Cumberland Forest, Roanoke Ridge, The Heartlands, Great Plains, Big Valley etc. It’ll probably be long but I think it’s a great idea for a video when you have time!
about wapiti: i am indigenous and i honestly agree with u there, the native american rep is great and accurate but jesus christ it is bleak (and an even bleaker reminder to how it STILL affects indigenous communities today, myself included) its kinda why i appreciate eagle flies and rains fall (kinda hate those names too they mean nothing, the names shouldve been more akin to things like "crazy horse" it wouldve suited eagle flies firey personality waaay better,)
I could be absolutely wrong about this so correct me if I’m wrong: Didn’t each name have their own culture when it came to naming? Perhaps Eagle Flies would have been more significant to the culture of the Wapiti. Then again I might be absolutely wrong, not trying to disrespect the culture of the Native American people at all.
Those names absolutely have meaning. 'Rains Fall' is like crying. He's an old man who's seen a lot of pointless death. He mourns for everyone he's lost and he's afraid for what remains of his people. Eagle Flies is proud, impetuous, brave, unwilling to submit to anyone.
@@Lolpy. I mean... yeah... look at it wider, every "tribe" of humanity (ethnicity) uses different names, why would it be different? This is kind of like asking "Do people *_really_* have different names?".
Dude , so why was his name rain falls wen he was younger ?
@@sleepyswan I'm not saying it makes sense but the names absolutely have meaning in that they express character traits
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I think it’s tarantinos best soundtrack. I do like once upon a time in Hollywood’s a lot as well
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The reason why the saloon and general store are not available to the player is that Annesburg would make their own money and pay workers with that, only being used in the town essentially trapping people there due to lack of funds. Or at least that’s what company towns did at the time. If it was truly realistic, they would not have a gunsmith as it would be too easy to arm up and rebel.
I just started playing RDR2 and I just love the fact that the fanbase for this game is still so alive. U don't see that often for a story-game. So far I love every part of the game, much love!
Manzanita post got absolutely downgraded in RDR2, I never played much of RDR1 (my original PS3 copy had a game-breaking glitch) but I did play RDR: Undead Nightmare and I remember going into the main building and fighting off hordes of zombies with the folk who lived there. All the buildings were explorable, and the whole area in general was very cozy and cool. The people there even let me take anything from the trading post as a gift for helping them, so they made for good companions to speak with. In RDR2, you get a single mission where you pass by them in the Epilogue, and no interiors are used, there's nothing to do, the most interesting part is talking to the people that live there and hearing their unique voice lines since they don't speak much English.
Btw just wanted to say I found your channel today, I've been watching lots of your rankings and they are very interesting. 100% subscribed!
I would have loved to have seen a speakeasy in strawberry especially with the lore of general store owner running a moonshine operation out of the basement
“It’s not like strawberry’s got too many big spenders” What about 1898? You could run a moonshine operation there, also What ever happened to Maggie and our character in rdr2, since u can find all the moonshine shacks but can’t enter them, I doubt our characters, Maggie, Lem, and Marcel all died in the span of a year maybe even a few months since I think 1898 takes place in May.
@@Gingersnap_AdventuresI like to think that the outlaw characters heard about the van Der linde gang's downfall and fled. Maggy was quite a smart businesswoman and crips would probably follow after her if she left.
@@Paleolithic_footage that’s a cool theory but where would our character go? Thinking realistically here and depends on what role they mainly had, if they had a bounty hunter role I doubt they’d left although if they were a trader or moonshiner they probably would fled with Maggie and cripps, idk bout the naturalist and collector roles though.
when I first went to butcher creek I just thought they were part of the murfree brood after seeing the butcher shop and just killed everybody
This is my first video from you, loved your energy describing all the towns 👍🏼 great work
I like van horn but I swear if u get in a bar fight with one person, the whole town jumps u 💀
Babe wake up. Henry Films just dropped a banger!!
This video was a great trip down memory lane, thanks!
With the intent to offer constructice criticism on your commentary and fully acknowledging that this ranking has no claim of being exceptionally critical of the source material, I'd like to ask you what constitutes the "Western" or "Wild Western" feel for you. I mean, your video provides many clues for your perspective on these phrases, but I would like to push back on using such a language, hence my question. It's akin to saying "the Turkish feel, the moustache and the lokum and Istanbul and the darbuka drum" (I'm Turkish btw), and with this example I have in my mind Edward Said's 1978 work "Orientalism" in mind, which simply states that the "Orient" is a caricaturization (not maliciously in every instance mind you, it's simply the way in which Western Europeans categorized the "exotic" Orient and in saying this I have no intention of being condescending or coming across as a pompous ass) of the messy actuality of the totality of the Orient. Since both the "Western" and "non-Western" (using the terms in their colloquial sense) existed concurrently, I believe that the distinction is not only unwarranted in such a ranking when considering one of this game's main objectives (providing an open-world sandbox of the "civilizing", not yet "civilized" world, or "America" at that specific time), but it also lessens the significance of the totality of representation that each place fulfills in game. Lagras showcases the "savages" of the land, Tall Trees or Roanoke Ridge showcases the actual savages; Saint Denis the joys and disparities of civilization, Annesburg its horrors; Armadillo, Valentine, and Blackwater signifying the state of non-industrialized settlements, etc. I think the repeated use of the phrases "Western" and "Wild-Western" in your assessment of these towns does somewhat of a disservice to each settlement individually and to the entire game collectively. This is not to say that my critique invalidates your opinions and your way of commentary, and I have no delusion of sort of editing a video aspiring to have academic qualities. It may very well have to do with being a recent graduate from a social sciences discipline, so feel free to chalk it up to occupational hazard, I sure do.
Anyway, my only wish was to provide some constructive feedback and introduce a couple of ideas that may interest you in discussing this topic. None of my comments take away from the entertainment value of your video, and I surely shall check your channel for other videos that may pique my interest. Take care!
I love pronghorn ranch because it’s very close to black bone forest which is so underatted for how useful it is. Several of the master hunter challenges can be completed there alone and the trapper with lake owanjila right next to it is just perfection
Now we need an outfit for every settlement
This isn't a wild west game, its a game about the last dying breathes of it and the turn of the century. I get the preference for that vibe though 100%! Great vid man!
I get why he wants that, because there... really aren't many wild west games either, and definitely none with rockstar's care, except red dead. But I love rdr's intersection of the old and the new, and saint denis is my favourite city for that reason. I'd love to see something set earlier though
personally, even with the context of the story and the inhabitants i love wapiti and the character and location of it. for me its a great to be emersed but i understand why you put it there. anyhoo good video
Lagras may not be that expansive but it’s a great fast travel location and I love the npcs there the most. It’s lowkey the friendliest place where you can hunt gators and fish for days.
I love the distinct accents that people from Lagras have. It’s a really nice detail that adds a lot of much needed flavor it.
16:57 what a great quote
It gives off the same energy as “Your not just anyone’s retard your my retard”
Rhodes is my favorite town and I know how controversial this may be but shady belle is my favorite camp (my arthur free roam save file I actually stopped in shady belle so I could be at the camp and have all the guns of chapter 4 like m1899s and semi autos and shit)
absolutely banger of a video, you should definitely design outfits for each settlement
My favorite is strawberry. If I was in that time period put me there. You are in riding distance of amazing hunting areas as well as fishing. It’s a trappers paradise as well as the town looking nice.
Game wise I like annesburg. I’m from the south so it reminds me a lot of Tennessee and the Smokey mountains, somewhere I’ve been and relate to. I spend a lot of time just exploring it because it’s scenery I’ve experienced irl
Who the FUCK is kicking at my door af 2 am?
Django! Soundtrack works P-E-R-F-E-C-T-L-Y with this game
Rhodes feels like home,it is my 3rd favorite town behind Blackwater and Saint Denis.
Rhodes just captures Georgia especially north Georgia I live in north Georgia and I see similarities between Rhodes and Georgia small towns I think it’s like Ringgold ga (if you don’t know what Ringgold is ,it’s the town where the locomotive chase stopped at and where Dolly Parton got married) I’m from Catoosa County and Rhodes captures the south perfectly ,and the Annesburg -van horn area looks like Tennessee so much it’s uncanny.
Van Horn?!?!?!? Bro you are crazy 😂😂😂 I go to Van Horn for target practice cause if I stand around for too long someone wants to start a fight. But I agree with number 1 for sure
Jätte bra video. Do you understand any swedish? As a Norwegian I was really excited when I discovered that they actually speaks Norwegian at Manzanita Post. The actors are Norwegian too. It’s impossible to speak like that without being from Norway
Can you rank towns to get in shootouts in?
Great suggestion 💯💯💯💯
Maybe like all the CTA maps on online
Van horn is always going to be no.1
Dead last- Armadillo. Literally nobody to shoot
8- Strawberry. Generic n boring. Micah’s mission was fun tho
7- Annesburg. Again, just nothing special, combined with a bunch of guards helping maybe?
6- Rhodes. Similar issue, however the red clay dust in the air could create a cool vibe maybe?
5- Blackwater. Lots of spots to climb(as he mentioned) and plenty of alleyways to wreak havoc upon the town with.
4-Valentine. Nothing too special about the law, just some pretty skilled lawmen. It just happens to be an amazing town to shoot up, given the western look.
3- Saint Denis. The massive foreboding lawforce provides a unique challenge. Alleyways, balconies, and roofs are great to shoot from. Not to mention that the lawmen suck ass in Saint Denis. They just walk right towards you in a shootout. Easy pickings.
2- Tumbleweed. Duh, pinnacle of the west. Plus, Freeman serves as the ultimate boss you have to take down, given that he’s an instant one-shot. Really cool
1- To nobody’s surprise, it’s Van Horn. Lawless, full of random buildings to take cover in, and full of endless cannon fodder for your ultimate pleasure.
@@M1N1molo nobody to shoot? armadillo literally has no law, so you can shoot everyone in the town without getting a wanted level. for me its the complete opposite and i spend most of my time there terrorizing everyone.
Don't forget the giant fucking pentagram underneath ome of the houses at butcher's creek
Emerald Ranch with the saloon working would be perfect, I would always stay there.
Heey another Scandinavian brother! I’m a full blood Scandinavian!
Yoo scandinavian brother 👊
I thought it was strange that a bunch of Scandinavians live in Manzanita in the game, which is Spanish for "Little Apple". One would think there'd be a lot of Mexicans in that town.
what do you think of rathskeller fork? that would have to be my favorite place that's not an actual town. i love how the buildings look straight out of nuevo paraiso. they even have a wall over the town like mexico does. i wish the saloon was open in rdr2. and maybe even some more missions and side stuff to do.
absolutely love the django theme song, glad to see others appreciate old school spaghetti westerns as much as i do lol
I’m fully Swedish actually. Do you by chance speak any Swedish or is it just like your sixth cousin that lives there?
Love your videos ! I also love Van Horne and vikings too lol lots of love from Newfoundland and Labrador! Thank you for sharing ! 💖💖💖
As someone who lives in Georgia, 5:15 made me laugh my ass off
One of my favorites is Thieves Landing! I literally learned how to play poker there lol
Great video 👍🤠. Maybe next you can rate the places you can actually sleep in. I personally love the one in Roanoake Ridge.
15:17 I smell a Arkham ranking of some sort soon
Why is Henry films so good at doing accents? Such a random piece of lore.
Wapiti is really pretty at night, the warm glow from the lights in the tent and they smoke escaping from the top, easily one of the prettiest things to see in the game.
It’s a shame I only realised this when I decided to play through the game with no hud.
Controversial take:I hate Saint Denis, the place sometimes glitches/spawns mounted people in front of you crashing into them, it’s a wanted signal waiting to happen with the street brats, people robbing you, and the Lemoyne raiders, only GOOD thing about that place is that it has EVERY single shop in it.
Other than that I agree with most of your rankings, and yeah I wish armadillo was better than it is in RDR2 since it’d be a great place to duel people.
i think its to big it has just as much as valentine does
@@ArthurMorganismywifeyeah also who even goes to the photographers store in Saint Denis, I’m sure most people forgot there is a photography store in Saint Denis which makes it probably one of the most unused stores the game has in RDR2.
Braithwaith Manor is an amazing place. one of my favorite places to visit
it makes me actually sad that this game doesn't allow you to purchase properties because Braithwaith Manor would be such a damn cool place to own.
even the place where the workers of the property live is a nice place, directly having a view of the giant river.
and the giant barn in the back of the property is very nice.
too bad the manor gets destroyed by fire when Arthur and the gang go to rescue Jack from the location. the interior is very damn nice place, especially the bedrooms in the upper level.
Maybe one of the top of my strange opinions, but I don´t like Valentine. It´s something on livestock towns that bothers me - nice facade around and a shit on boots...
I really like Strawberry, it is similar to strange-shaped uphill settlement from McCabe and Mrs. Miller (so it´s even prettier under snow). But it really need saloon (where Micah got into troubles).
Also there shoud be general store in Annesburg, sorry, not "general" - a company store! Missed oportunity. I have soft spot on Roanoke region and Annesburg for the same reason you like Rhodes - reminds me home.
You should rank rdr1 settlements next
Ah yes Tumbleweed as an outlaw this is my ideal hideout a place where I work as a bounty hunter for the local law and keep my head low. Of course I got high bounties in all other states but if it gets too much I run back and stock up again in Tumbleweed
My coat in that scene at Annesburg. Wearing it all the time...
I personally wouldn't classify this as a "wild west" game. Idk what I would classify it as, but Wild West really doesn't come to mind. Especially since most of the game is set in the east and deep south.
It’s more of western, Deep South and mid west
If the story of the wild West was a trilogy, rdr2 is kinda the beginning of the final book
You could do a ranking of all the progression challenges. Either all 90 or the 9 different types of challenges
Gotta a love a good Henry films video
I've been to lagras in red dead online. All I've been doing is roping people of their horses, hogtying them, then throwing them in the water for the crocs. It was pretty fun.
Tens Towns damn what is this, Icewind Dale
I watched your town one and saloon now I’m watching this same day it came out
Now do a video ranking top 10 Archibald Macgregor moments
Number 1 would be the showdown with Micah and Arthur. He was tactically placed so Micah had to take him out, confirming Archibald is a better gunslinger than Arthur.
Oil field above armadillo is crazy
Not at all
I think I'd probably pick Saint Denis as my favorite, every time I go there's always some crazy shit going on and it's a real hoot
Love the background music you chose, especially the one in the middle from the movie I don't remember.
Which one?
@@filmsbyhen I forget the name of the movie, but I think Brad Pitt is in it? It's about the murder of some famous cowboy by his "friend". The song I'm talking about is slow and has mostly piano and violins.
@@filmsbyhen I figured out how to Google it. It's Song for Bob, from the movie The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford".
@@salchipapa5843 the assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert ford! That film is a masterpiece and I personally think the greatest western of the 21st century. I have a video on the channel where I talk about it. The track is “song for Bob”
@@filmsbyhen yup! That's precisely it. I don't remember much of the movie, but I love the soundtrack.
Butcher creek is kinda cool in its own right but rockstar could have done so much more with this small Appalachian town
Bruh I stay robbing Gaptooth Breach every few days post epilogue. It’s literally passive income lol
In the next red dead they could do something like in killers of the flower moon where the natives struck oil or gold and became rich and assimilated.
Where’s Tahiti and Timbuktu?
Just avoid guarma🗣🔥🔥💯💯💯
Ngl I been waiting fr a video like this for a while
the one thing very annoying about RDR2 is how the Trapper in the game is located in some of the most random and far away locations of the map possible, completely removed from any civilization. and some of the locations are even extremely dangerous, close to enemy territory of savages like the Murfrees in Roanoke Ridge or the Skinner Brothers in Tall Trees.
or how the Trapper in Big Valley is up on the damn mountain hill, at the edge of the game map.
Rockstar really made the Trapper location strange.
the Trapper in let's say Tall Trees region of the Skinner Brothers could have just had his shop in Manzanita Post. that would have been perfect.
plus, I believe Manzanita Post is a fast travel location and would have been perfect to immediately fast travel there and sell the hides you collected from hunting animals.
just a rant of mine. some settlements in the game seriously lack businesses to trade and make shop indeed.
even the train could have had some more fast travel points to immediately go to.
for example visiting the far northern side of Roanoke Ridge could have benefited from having a functional train station when visiting that Nikola Tesla professor at his lab/electrical tower.
the small abandoned shack there right next to the train line is actually interactable. you can sleep inside the shack.
I use that place whenever I want to change the time to night because I would hunt down cougars for the pelts to complete the hunter/survival challenges.
If you go to Wapiti after helping Raining Falls, they treat you better.
I love Van Horn too. Probably my favorite!
For me colter armadillo Valentine and blackwater are the most western i guess thats my favorite cities
What if a hurricane destroyed saint denis in 1900
I wish Van Horn was on the western side of the map just because of how well it fits with the overall outlaw attitude.
should’ve been an ambarino town, same as annesburg
New HenryFilms video let's goooooo
Love it. I don’t know what’s funny in « Tumbleweed » though, like it’s just a plant’s name 😊😅
Love the video great job
What's your opinion on Cherry Pepsi?
24:54 John reminds me of Seth Bullock here
Wow the cobbled streets look clean in Blackwater! Lagras means the fat basically so I wonder why it's named that 😂
There is no station in blackwater cuz you can get there in epilogue if there was a train station then you can get there with arthur
They could simply just not give you the option to go there until the epilogue
They could just make a Pinkerton patrol on the bridge, stopping all trains.
Good to see dear Henry back
Id love a red dead game (Or a third redemption game) focusing on the natives, a lot of potential in terms of content and story.
That will be boring
Love the Django music
Good job with the video.
Can you do a ranking of rdr 2 chapters? Or a ranking of all Van Der Linde camps?
I did a video ranking all the chapters
@@filmsbyhenwhat about a gun ranking?
@@Gingersnap_Adventuresgood idea
@@GooseWinks is it sad that, that is one of the first times anyone’s ever told me that?
I’m gonna have to edge for 35 minutes.
Sweden mentioned???, MY VIKING BROTHER🛡️🛡️🔥🔥🔥
Fuckin finally, been waiting for this one!!
The eastern part of the map (Van Horn, Annesburg, Roanoke Ridge, and to a certain extent Saint Denis) has such a sinister aesthetic, traveling through the rainforests or foggy streets reminds you of classic horror scenarios (there's even Nosferatu and ghosts that appear in the game). It's something unexpected in the Wild West, but a welcome surprise.
Now what I really miss is Mexico, in my humble opinion, all Mexican cities leave American cities to shame.
Awesome video as always.
I fended off a hostile posse at braithwaite manor in rdo
I deleted rdr2 a while ago because i got bored of the game. I already played the story about 5 times, but this video made me want to install it again idk why
Ranking all bounties
An idea for a video is designing outfit for every horse breed in red dead redemption
im interested to see what you'd considered makes a perfect western town
it would be more accurate to call Wapiti a Concentration camp.
I wouldn't call it a concentration camp, they aren't being executed or experimented on, but they are heavily abused by the army.
Blackwater not having a gunsmith shop is indeed very annoying.
Slayed as usual