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- A quick run through of my favorite tools aboard Athena. Thank you so much to all of those who commented on last weekends video. Your support and creativity in finding possible solutions to "the joker" blows me away :)
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A quick run through of my favorite tools aboard Athena. Thank you so much to all of those who commented on last weekends video. Your support and creativity in finding possible solutions to "the joker" blows me away :)
so basically your advertising tools now, ava is money grabbing money hungry, you would have never done a video like this in the past, life is not all about money you know
@max nex my personal opinion
@@TheSailingBrothers Mads buys the vast majority of his tools with his own cash and then takes the time to film & share his honest opinion of them. In my book that's great - other knows when they can save the $$ and when they really need to spend them
& if, as you say, Ava is money grabbing then surely she would NOT have chosen someone who spends most of his income on an old boat!! and happens to live across a continent and an ocean.
I'm afraid whenever I read comments like this, my first reaction is that the poster is envious or jealous for one reason or another, so I check out their channel & content hoping to be proved wrong ... well everyone can do that & come to their own opinion as well
@Luke- You can always change the channel. No one's forcing you to watch...and it's "you're" BTW
@ Luke seems to have an inferiority complex so needs to denigrate others to make himself feel better
On my old wooden boat we used what I think were commonly termed ‘Sister’ ribs, just running another rib alongside the first.
Paul Rennie I also gave the same suggestion on the previous video and perhaps if the wood it’s only wet and not rotten it should be ok as it is... more drilling will clear the mind.
What a love of a sweetly you have found ! Best of all dreams to both of you !
It's not a big problem. Go sailing. Life is about the journey, but you have to take the first step.
The double "See Youuu" was sooo perfect !!!
For what it's worth, for the wet ribs and stringers, I would do the following since they are tabbed to the hull and covered with FG. Drill holes along the lengths of each taking care not to drill through the hull. Large enough holes to get to find some dryness. Fill each with acetone it displaces water. Since you can't really use epoxy right now, it will have plenty of time to dry out. Then pour in thin penetrating epoxy in each hole along with a wooden dowel of the right size. Now grind off the bilge paint and make thicker tabs. The strength will really be in the tabs and glass cover on the wooden ribs not the actual wood. Saves you all the work of gutting and redoing all the work you have done so far and will probably be stronger than the original.
thats all true...but tearing the cabin apart to fix it right, is what hes going to do....he wont be able to help himself.......plus...thats more content for him to pass along to us.
Joe, although this seems like a good idea, the acetone is much more volatile at ordinary temperatures than water. That means that the acetone would flash off more quickly than the water leaving the water behind. Additionally, acetone is highly flammable, with an explosive % of 2.6 to 12.8 by volume. Anywhere in this range acetone vapor will explode if exposed to a source of ignition.
You have enough to do, between the new rudder, possibly ripping out the interior, the dodger, binnacle, not to mention all the assembling involved in toerails, jib tracks, stanchions, winches...The list goes on. Why on earth are you casting new cleats? There are dozens of cleats to choose from. One step forward, two steps back...I hope I live long enough to see you sailing Athena.
But nothing more spiffy then casting your own cleats and know you can make your own replacement parts in the future. Perhaps a nifty way to earn some bucks when sailing in paradise for others benefit who find they don't have internet and Amazon is not available.
@@denniscollins2032 Yea, cause casting a cleat is one of those things that often comes up in "paradise"...
If it were me I'd do the same...but I guess thats because I enjoy the process - learning new things, trying new things. I think getting a spiffy boat is only part of the payoff - a large part is in the fun of the process itself.
@@andrewsingleton530 Yea, learning new things is good. But how about this: Buy cleats that will work and install them, go sailing with your lady, and when it's too cold and dark in the winter, you learn how to cast cleats. Then if they work out, replace the ones you already have while you're anchored in a nice bay somewhere...His list is getting longer instead of shorter.
Because it sounds like his friends are going to be casting the cleats anyway, so tagging along on their effort may not cost him nearly as much time as if he were doing it on his own. Plus it will make for a great video that will draw a whole different set of hobbyists to his channel, increasing his views, and probably getting his channel exposure it would not have otherwise gotten. Honestly if his friends are going to be doing it anyway and are willing to let him film, I think it would be pretty foolish of Mads to not take advantage of that.
I just wanted to thank you for all that you do. Your videos bring a smile to my face every week. In fact, I find myself grinning with every "Hey, guys!" You have been a huge inspiration and encouragement to my daughter and me as we set out on our own liveaboard adventure. Your videos are not only fun (yay magic snap!) and spiffy, but really clear and informative. And I deeply admire your commitment to your dream. Thank you for bringing us along on your beautiful journey. Your warm smile, even when things are not going well - especially when things are not going well - helps me keep moving forward during my own setbacks. Thank you so much!
Hi Mads, I’m glad you were able to relax in sunny LA... and spiffy deer jammies! 🙈
some day you will enjoy sailing. but from watching ALL your vids in binge mode I'll take a leap and classify you as the kind of guy who wouldn't enjoy knowing his perfectly functional boat has soggy floors. you love this stuff. you make me angry that you don't get angry. maybe later you scream into your pillow. we will never know. if not you are a saint. tear the boat apart and fix the floors. you know you must do this. if not you'll feel every improvement and upgrade is built on a foundation of sand, thus unrewarding and futile. also, you entertain me, to the point where soon I will feel compelled to support you. nice job. finally, thank you, you inspire me.
I hope you and Ava have a very Marry Christmas together. Also Happy Holidays to all your viewers.
Dude, you are smart enough to figure out what you want to do about the wet wood. I would replace it in sections, and for some reason I think that's what you are gonna do. More glorious sanding!!!!!!
Hi Mads! My wife and I are converting a retired school bus into a tiny house on wheels and we have been inspired by your work so much through the process!
One of my favorite power tools was directly inspired by your circular saw. I purchased a 5 3/8" cordless circular saw by Milwaukee and it was absolutely a game-changer! Its small size makes it super easy to handle and on a tiny house, small size is crucial! I now have several power tools in the Milwaukee M12 family and I love them!
Wow, the Jammie’s and puffy vest are an, er, “look”. Thanks so much for your hard work all year, a very Happy Christmas to you and Eva.
S/V Sayonara merry Christmas 😂
Mads, the core is structural. As it is plywood (instead of balsa) the core will contribute in both tension and compression stresses.
Normally the applied glass conent is therefore lower (compared to e.g balsa) and in consequense rotten core will reduce hull strength/stiffness.
My advise would be to replace/repair the stringers in the affected areas. Especially in the highloaded areas of the keel & mast support. Scarf in at the good parts, away from the highest loads.
In transverse direction I would scarf to the existing frames (unless soaking wet...) where the are dry and leave the joinery at the sides of the vessel, as the loads will reduce. Where possible you can add additonal layers of glass. The frames over the keel look they could be beefed up a bit...
In addition I would advise to bond new and where possible existing bulkheads to the hull using fillets. This will not only add
Stiffnes to the boat, but will also help you to get rid of sqeeky noises during your oceanpassages.
For more theory you can check e.g the book elements of boatstrength.
Repair method can be found here: epoxyworks.com/index.php/stringer-repairs-in-fiberglass-boats/
Mads and Ava,
Thank you for the tool reviews. Its nice to see reviews from those who use the tools they are talking about and I don't mean just a quick test but for long periods of time in all sorts of situations. Wishing you both and all your subscribers a very joyous Holiday Season wherever you are in the world.
Thinking of gutting entire interior and says " think that could be some fun". Bless you cause you are a saint! Far more patient then I am to finish the refit and get in the water. Keep up the good work!
I'm going to get that Bosch sander to use on my foot callouses.
Whatever you decide on the stringers, I look forward to the quality content that you consistently deliver. Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.
Nice to see you happy together.
Hi Mads: the joist or beam has two parts; tension and compression. The fiberglass, your tension part is fine, the compression part is wet.
Adding glass would increase the compression part. You have eliminated the source of the wetness which means when it dries out it will be stiffer.
Drill holes, let it dry in its own time put more glass on and good to go.
Also, Merry Christmas to you and Ava
John Brown pretty good answer I will suggest first some more drilling to clear the mind and help drying anyway...
Lovely to see you both together.
Have a wonderful Christmas and keep those fantastic vlogs coming.
Take care
Tim
The Bosch Rep in my area is sending you a big thank you for that video :D
Have a Merry Christmas together Mads & Ava!
Mads, there are 100 ways to skin the proverbial 'Joker' and as you already know there will be a diff answer from every 3rd shipwright. I would only add that its unlikely in the future to have another opportunity to be where you are right now; on the hard, much of the interior disassembled and cleared out, along with your tools and motivation present. There is no time like the present! If it were me, I'd pass on new plywood and use a higher density core foam followed by a heavy laminate. You have the skills... laminate it and vac bag it. The peace of mind you'll have while sailing on a solid grid below your cabin sole is worth the sweat equity.
We love your videos and would like to thank you so much for doing them. We would also like to say Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.🎄
Mads - Forgive if you have answered this question before (I am new to the channel!)... Have you ever lived in the USA or the UK? Your skill with English is far beyond what can be typically learned in a textbook or in a classroom; you've achieved the ability to [correctly] use colloquialisms ("Doohickey" LOL) and idioms. Most non-native speakers need years of immersion to acquire this level of proficiency and many still never do. Anyway, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
I agree with a lot of viewers here. I would dig out the offending material and leave the fiberglass sides in place making a trench out of the stringers. Allow the area to dry then fill the trench with an expanding foam or thickened epoxy. Then fiberglass the area. Though you can not do the repair until spring you can dig out the moist material and allow nature to get started on drying.
That much thickened epoxy is going to be pretty heavy (and expensive) for what strength you get out of it, and using expanding foam would be replacing a structural material (the plywood) with one that doesn't add much strength back at all. Would need to lay up a lot of additional laminate on top of the foam. It would be better to replace any removed plywood with new wood, probably bedded in that thickened epoxy (preferably thickened with something like milled glass fibers). Then add a little laminate mainly to replace what was removed to get the ply out. That will result in the hull retaining weight and stiffness close to what it was originally designed to have.
Netpackrat yup I agree with you but when you cut out the structural parts what will support the frame? .. remember the boat is out of the water and standing on 4 points.. it could be a risk.. build new frame and put it on both sides should remove any possible disaster and it will make the boat even stronger..
Glad you made it to the US safe and sound, have fun and a merry Christmas to you and Ava
Wishing you both a Merry Christmas and a fruitful New Year. Looking forward to more progress on Athena.
As an architect once said to me, "Ask two architects a question and you'll get three answers". Also a shipwright I know can give me a different answer if I wait several weeks between asking the same question. Sorry for your pain, I totally understand. :-)
Bosch GST 12V-70 jigsaw is one of my favorite power tool .It is compact, precise and effective without annoying power cable. Works also with 10.8 - 12 volts batteries.
Re. tools, and thinking back to when you had to scrape out your bilge: A 4 foot drill extension with a cup wire brush is a good way to get into nooks in a serious way. Tape it to a piece of pipe for extension.
Re. the radius on your cabin deck corner: Your thoughts will return to that when the wind picks up to over 35 knots and you discover your reefing lines are fowled ;)
You forgot to mention the very necessary ... vacuum. Also, when I did my refit I found a 1/2" drill very useful.
That vacuum is pretty dang spiffy, it was present in the shots, just the forgotten work horse
@@JimKJeffriesThat vacuum sucks! ;)
I wish you both a wonderful Christmas and a great start of the New Year. Thanks for all the great video's.
I suggest that a targeted area repair approach will restore structural strength and get you in the water sooner. Identify and determine the moisture level of each stringer, by drilling a core sample with a small hole saw. Each sample can be evaluated for moisture level and integrity. Those stringers wettest and most compromised get a heat mat and dehumidifier treatment, followed by a grid of core drilling and epoxy saturation. Areas with no water penetration can be relaminated and otherwise left alone. THis is a an established technique for wood rot remediation. You could even expect to attract further sponsorship by marine materials manufacturers. Even the punkiest wood can absorb epoxy and gain incredible strength by becoming a saturated matrix. An additional lamination can be applied over the interior hull and stringers, composed of wetted foam and biaxial glass to increase stiffness and strength . Unless you are entirely comfortable with removing all of the interior, and dealing with all of the unforeseen surprises, plus the extended timeline, consider this approach for its many advantages in time, costs, and overall feasibility.
Great tools Mas, thanks for sharing
I think you two make a great couple. Wish you both a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Good one Mads! I've been a carpenter twenty plus years and I like your tool choices! Merry Christmas to you and Ava!
Hahaha LOL the sign on the wall with the text "Oh what fresh hell is this? " Is Epic you are the best :-D
I am glad you showed us that laser measuring device, I am definitely getting one before starting on the head remodel on my boat, have to rebuild the whole thing and add a shower, that is going to be great!
Yay thanks Mads!
Happy holidays!
Great stuff thanks for sharing and happy holidays 👍👍
I would add that some of your most important "tools" are the eye, ear, and lung protection you utilize. While your pants with the built in knee pads may not be a "tool", I'm sure they make your projects a lot easier to accomplish!
Love your videos. A very, very Merry Christmas to you both!
Love your trousers, Mads. A merry, merry christmas to both of you ;)
Although I’m not a marine engineer or naval architect this is what I would do to my boat if faced with the “joker”: by removing the top of the stringer you should be able to remove the all the core material (this you knew already). Replace it with a closed cell structural foam of the appropriate density like Divinicell H60 and bond in place with thickened epoxy. Round the edges of the core at the top then fiberglass over the top. Do one stringer at a time. I doubt that you will experience any deformation of the Hull because you currently only have static loads and the verticals of the fiberglass stringer remain intact and tabbed to the hull. A vacuum bag over the top would remove any voids and make the cap to core and cap to vertical very strong.
I agree with Gerald. As long as you can access these stringers, you can refill them, kind of like a dentist drilling and filling a cavity. This is not the end of the world as some have suggested.
Happy Xmas, and thanks.
No matter if you are doing projects (we love refit videos- really we do!) or sailing, we look forward to Sunday's new uploads. You might be interested in watching the refit playlist of Sailing FollowtheBoat- I can't believe all the perfect work you have done by yourself- when it takes crews a year for their boat! I am really impressed with your work and dedication! Waiting for my t-shirt and stickers any day!
I got my t-shirt and stickeras today! Thank you! I know you didn't make millions from this shirt sale and that it was probably more trouble than glorious sanding so I wanted to express my gratitude for your combined effort. Its cool to know you two sent this stuff out to the fans personally. Merry Christmas. Edit: I almost forgot to mentiont that the packaging was a class act and the contents are "Pretty Dang Spiffy!".
Merry Christmas to you both.
What a great channel! I have really been enjoying watching your progress and appreciate the fact that you take the time to do it RIGHT. Welcome to California and please be invited for a Sail aboard my Pearson 36 should you find yourself in San Diego!
Mads/ Ava, thanks for shipping my tee shirt and stickers. Funny to see you pack it! Donald in Pennsylvania.
Thanks for sharing this fantastic video. Merry Christmas to you and aiva
Ah good old Force Drive (you dummy) 5.05, that flashed up so quickly I had to pause, play, pause a million times (and I never exaggerate) to see what that subliminal message said. Mads, your extended use of these tools and review gives a very reliable indicator of their worth, good stuff.
I'd say you're vacuum is the most used! My shirt and stickers are on the way!!
HI Mads, Merry Christmas to you and Ava.
happy holidays Mads & Ava from another frozen winterwondeland, aka Finland. have fun in ´murica :)
Marry Christmas brother have fun over the holidays and be safe out there.
Hi Mads, if you give me the outer diameters of your angle grinder and the inner diameter of you vacume hose and a length of both ends, i'll gladly support you with a 3d printed peice that shoud work as a connector.
Sounds like an offer to good to refuse
Ruben Handyman good fellow!!!
I was going to offer to do the same thing!
I would be surprised if you didn't choose to rip out everything and build up the floor section completely new. Destroying everything and rebuilding it in a mindnumbingly perfectionist and precise way seems to be your bag. :)
I would never have the patience for that. Kudos.
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
I have been a very good, patient, adult for the last couple of weeks knowing the shirts coming... BUT now I am like the kid who wakes up early Christmas morning and just can't stand the wait. Seeing the shirts being packaged at the end of the video has done nothing for my maturity level :-P
My shirt is on the way. Hooray!
Hello Mads and Merry Christmas. I just want to share this little story with you. There’s a gentlemen in the boatyard where I store my boat. He has a 39’ Corbin. His intention was to rebuild it and sail it trans-Atlantic and into the Med. He has been working on it for almost 20 years and is mostly done. The vessel is immaculate. The joinery in the cabin is fabulous. The boat is mostly ready.. When he started, the boat was in decent shape, but he wanted it perfect. He has done that, but he is now in his late 70’s and believes he is too old to fulfill his dream. I know you’re not that old, but I would hate to see you spend all your time working on a boat that, in its present condition, is probably better than most boats people are cruising with. Determine what is really important to you, get those things done and go sailing. Just my opinion. Again, Merry Christmas and happy Holidays.
My 'favorite' tool is my power hammer, but my most commonly used tools are hand files and vises.
Merry Christmas
Great video, glad you are in LA safe and sound, Merry Christmas to you both. It seems there must be a way to "inject" a substance into those suspect areas to "firm" them up and harden to make them stronger.
The first one was right do nothing except get the bilge situation piped differently. Go sail.
Mads, you're such a perfectionist that you probably got a 3D drawing on your computer of Athena new interior already! Those structural members if not attended to will probably stop you from going to sleep, yes mate! I know how you feel! got to be done, so go for it. You've already got all those spiffy tools put them to good use. I bet you know which advice you're going to follow from your last video. Hey Merry Xmas and Happy New Year by the way. you're very entertaining and informative. Great videos!
I sure you will rebuild all, making sens considering all the rebuilds you have done on athena. and a new interior plan solution is temptation pur. go for it ! will be cool videos too
Hei Mads!
Det er herlig å se deg jobbe med din motivasjon!
Du skulle sett min båt, alt interiør fjernet og under vannlinjen er full av osmose..
Du motiverer meg til å jobbe på egen båt!
Bond doublers on the side of the stringers and ribs (bond to grp) then layer over the entire doubled rib and tab onto the hull.
I have been working on our boat prior to cruising next year. I have purchased a lot of tools over the last few years and realised the benefit of purchasing one brand with one type of battery. In my case Makita. I have slowly replaced all my tools including portable dust extraction and vacuum cleaner with there 18v range. This means one battery type to charge and one charger. If only you could still get the electric bikes
cut the wet wood out and leave the glass and do it in sections so the boat does not move or bolt ply wood both sides and glass over them would be faster and not so much wrip out of the boats inside
Bleu Wolf i also suggested a similar approach in the previous video.. it should be good enough and even stronger
That's along the lines of what I'm thinking. One of the primary functions the wooden stringers serve is to simply be a form over which the glass is laid. They certainly can add some rigidity, but the real strength is in the glass. If he were to do as you say Bleu Wolf, and then add a subfloor (bedded in epoxy and tabbed into the stringers on the underside) over the top of the stringers, effectively tying them together, he would have an extremely strong and rigid structure. Obviously he would have to make cutouts in the subfloor not only to tab them to the stringers, but to also provide access to the bilge, but the whole thing would be similar to a monocoque-type construction.
look for a rubber gasket for the dust shroud, is my suggestion, it will make for hooking up several different types of suction devices such as a shop-vac and other doodads.
hahahaha loved the scrum board
How many years do you have? The grid hasn't deformed or shifted, I would think that the cores of the ribs and stingers are only a small part of the strength and could have been foam instead of plywood with maybe thicker glass. I would shave the tops off, gouge out the offending material that you can easily get to, fill with something or maybe nothing and re-glass and tab. I'm guessing most of the moisture is located close the the bilge. I am only assuming that most of the grid is in support of the keel anyway.
JED structural foam ( I don’t think so) needs to be gutted and replaced just Incase he runs into something he wasn’t expecting at sea.
05Cat28 I believe foam is not good enough.. those are structural parts but it can be a different material with similar structural properties
Alessandro Tempo my thinking is that what every the core is as long as it is hydrophobic doesn’t matter. The strength will be in the encapsulation. I think if Mads increases the encapsulation and tabbing thickness it would work to make a very strong box section. Many newer high strength to weight ratio boats use foam cored ribs and runner exclusively. I wouldn’t be surprised if the ply cores lost their hull bond a long time ago.
JED my thoughts exactly, tab it up. Build up the sides, carve out the old core. Find a product that will stabilize the in excess-able core and cap off.
05Cat28 I saw in some other channels is been used some... how you call it? Core... something The same as Mads used for the top.. but I have no idea about structural performance..
Suggestion for this video: most probably the wet wood is on top the rotten is below.. drill more holes let it dry.. after take the decision... anyway if after the Christmas holidays you are not feeling too good about the situation you can build a frame beside and on each side of the original one and that will give you the structure to keep the frame and structure in place.. fiberglass the new frame and make sure there is proper drainage. It will be even stronger. The old frame if it’s gone take it out if it’s not just leave it there..
Merry Christmas from Puerto Rico hope to see Athena in carribe waters soon
Merry Christmas. Safe travels to LA.
You should include your trousers in your shop as well, they look pretty dang spiffy ^^
You had me worried there for a while. Didn't think we were going to get a video lol.
the man is as regular as the rising Sun
Oliver Lewin im happy with the anticipation but i know what you mean! Hahaha epic community around Athena
@ *James Outerbridge* 😂
Merry Christmas from an 🇮🇹 in 🇨🇳
AWESOME video. There is nothing better than knowing exactly what tools work for you during a huge project like this. It makes buying so much easier knowing someone has actually used the tool, abused the tool, and it still keeps working. I would recommend a mention about your tools every so often so we know how they continue to work. I would also hope that sellers like DeWalt, Bosch, and Makita contact you to have you try out some of their new tools and see how they really measure up. I'm a huge fan and appreciate your attitude even in the face of more work.
Regarding the hull, could you not just run a 'sister' stringer next to the one that shows wood rot? Common method for roof or floor joists in a house but instead of bolting together you could just tab it directly to the hull. Think of it like doubling the amount of stringers you have in the boat now but only do it where you know wood is rotten. I'll be looking forward to whatever you come up with. Thanks for the stickers!
Hope you Guys have a Merry Christmas!!!!
Love the pjs lmao merry Christmas
I have that same drill. It is a good one.
Something for you to think about. Seems almost all modern designers go for the fin keel design. Oh yes people want a faster yacht for sailing the world and many new sailors go for the barge with a stick for more speed and shall I say comfort.
Hi Mads, you seem very eager to use your new reciprocating saw to demolish the existing grid! I have done exactly that to remove the foundation of my diesel engine. Sawing through a combination of fibreglass and a few centimeters of wood is not funny (with your current saw or a bigger one). The real problem however is that you will not be able to saw the laminate completely flush with the hull. Grinding all the leftover laminate from the hull will be pure hell. Sistering (as proposed by many) is completely acceptable. I have also done that. Sistering 3 keel frames took 3 days, after which my boat was much stronger. Completely removing the foundation of the engine took twice as long (and the dust didn't improve my life expectancy), after which I had ..... well, nothing. Good luck, Karel
There are ways to fix the stringers without taking everything out, keep researching. Merry Christmas to you both, enjoy LA. Thank You!
I loved your power tool overview, but what about your shop vacuum? Maybe include it in a future video! Enjoy your trip to the USA! Merry Christmas!
I have the Makita 9031, a great tool but I find the 9032 to be even more versatile!
In thinking about your proposed solutions, my thought is that all 3 are likely correct. From what we have seen of your personality, you will likely choose 3 because of the security of mind in making the boat as "bullet" proof as possible. I don't think the boat is in any danger of structurally failing anytime soon. In order to get the boat live in ready and sail worthy as possible considering you now have a girlfriend I would repair the mushy frames where you clearly had sever water intrusion, seal all the others to prevent future intrusion, and move forward on upgrading the living space. This should last you 20 years at which time I am sure your life will be vastly different and you will have much different plans/needs. We will will be watching regardless, but hope for the day when you will be sailing as that is the ultimate goal! Fairwinds and Following Seas!
Love the spiffy pyjama pants
Hi recently found your channel, its really good and has really given me something to think about, I was looking at purchasing a Trident 35 but with all the problems you have come across I am having serious doubts. Cannot wait to see the finished result. Internally I do like the white and wood effect but would be concerned that the paint might blister and come off.
Don’t forget the impact driver! I use the default 20v combo kit with drill and impacter. It’s like my briefcase lol
Enjoy sunny California and the Christmas season!
The shop vac is one if my mostly used tools. For dust or water. .... i added a cyclone and a bucket to my vac to keep the filter from clogging.
Mads you had me concerned, envisioning you being in some Emergency Dept somewhere, your timing is usually more accurate than my watch !!! 😀, another great piece by the way ....
114jen he is been busy ... 🤣 not on DIY stuff I bet!!!