Duran is winning at this point & he won the whole fight clearly, it was very competitive but you cannot deny Roberto this victory... arguably the greatest single win in boxing history if you take on board this was a prime Leonard & Duran was the smaller guy & had had 72 (71-1) fights under his belt going into the fight, amazing performance (by both men) IMO the 2 best fighters since Muhammad Ali.
You're absolutely right! And I'm absolutely wrong! I don't know what I was thinking about at the time of my earlier comment, but your concise and yet profoundly informative response has helped me to see the light. I don't know what line of work you are currently in, but with your flair for language and sophisticated negotiation skills you really should think about a career in politics. :-)
There is so much skill displayed in this fight. It's beautiful. Not even Pacquiao and Mayweather fighting can come close to this level of skill and boxing ability
toda la pelea RAY se la paso amarrando a DURAN a mi pensar era una estrategia que lo hacia ver mal porque no boxea como se tiene que boxear RAY le tenia MIEDO a duran Y MIEDO DE VERDAD porque sabia que DURAN LO PODRIA TUMBAR CON CUALQUIER DERECHAZO BIEN PUESTO... "DURAN EL MEJOR BOXEADOR LATINOAMERICANO DE TODOS LOS TIEMPOS"
this is as exciting now as it was back in the day live..gr8 warriors thriyght the whole boxing world back then too..Siame there'll never be another superfight again....I muss the late 79s thru to the 90s ..
That huge right hand at the end of the 8th was a big punch in the fight. In rounds 5-8 the momentum was starting to shift Sugar Ray's way. His hand speed and brutal body attack on the inside was getting to duran a little bit and Roberto looked like he was maybe starting to slow down. Than all of a sudden...BANG!! Big right hand and from the ninth on Duran got his second wind and took back command of the fight
Ray got rocked @ 1:16 and held on for dear life. I remember this fight as if it were yesterday. Duran is truly one of the greatest fighters that ever lived. Sugar Ray was one of the greatest welterweight that ever lived. If Ray was fighting today, he would clean up the welterweight division.
The thing you gotta love about Leonard is he can change his style and fight any way he needs to. He can run away and jab but can also go toe to toe if he wants to.
I live in Vegas currently & in the past; I've run into Floyd on several occasions; in a related story; I met him for the 1st time at the old Tower Records on Sahara ave.; he was cordial we talked boxing & he even gave me his business card due to the fact that I was there with a musician friend & he was also dabbling in music production. Anyways we talked boxing; it was before his 1st fight with Castillo, he was a bit arrogant & I even remember warning him on how tough & complex Castillo could be
@TRIPLESIXSICCNESS Well, everyone's entitled to their opinion i guess. What's your scorecard like at this stage in the fight? Which rounds do you think I've got wrong, and why? I'm not trying to attack you, I'm just genuinely interested in finding out which rounds we disagree on...
Rounds 7 and 8 are very very close. I've given them both even. Duran goes in with his head quite a lot at the start of rd 9. No warning from the ref. But, then again SRL has been holding all night and the ref has let it go, so it's all fair. Fantastic fight. Rd 1: Duran 9 - Leonard 10 Rd 2: Duran 10 - Leonard 9 Rd 3: Duran 10 - Leonard 9 Rd 4: Duran 10 - Leonard 9 Rd 5: Duran 9 - Leonard 10 Rd 6: Duran 9 - Leonard 10 Rd 7: Duran 10 - Leonard 10 Rd 8: Duran 10 - Leonard 10
This was the greatest era in boxing, for 2 reasons...1) there was 4 alltime greats at there peak in the same wieghtclass,..and 2) They all fight eachother!.....Im 31 & I wish I was born about 15 yrs earlier so I coulda witnessed this era with the knowledge I have now,...But I dont agree with the people saying that Pac & Floyd aint on these guys level! Pac, Floyd &Martinez are absolutely on the level as these guys,..Lets not get TOO caught up in this fight and lose touch with reality fellas lol
fue la mejor pelea de duran porque le gano por cojones y decision a un boxeador mas joven mas rapido en su peso natural y con las cualidades extraordinarias de sugar ray leonard
These older fighters were better "fighters" than Floyd but definitely not better "boxers". I can tell you one thing, in a Floyd fight, you clearly see who is winning the entire fight with picture perfect clean punches. The older guys were more like warriors, punching hard and often. Floyd is more like a professor. I love the hard nose fighting of the vets but I'd rather see the perfection of Floyd. Big ups to the big four(Duran,Leonard,Hearns and Hagler).
Adrenacrumb, you are so right. when Duran was 26 this fight would have ended within 10 rounds. Duran never fights like this again with this kind of hand speed .This Duran beats every fighter up to middleweight.
Leonard was fighting the 30 seconds then tried to steal the round fighting the last 30 seconds. Duran took at least 6 of the first 7 if not all seven! The announcers had Duran up by about a point? Even they are fooled by the steal a round technique!!!! Lol
@adrenacrumb And the so called n" no mas " fight against Leonard , Leonard asked for the rematch inmediatly not giving Duran enough time to prepare ; Two weeks before the fight Duran's corner asked for the fight to be postponed because Duran was not in shape . Of course Leonards corner denied for the petition to postpone the fight .
@yomi76 Rd 7 was clearly RD, you are listening to Ferdie too much, Duran is eating up Leonard so far. He goes on and on about how great Leonard is and no mention of a lightweight moving up and pushing around a true welter. Rd8 is Duran as well, Leonard is missing a lot, Duran is landing clean and heavy shots.
@jason60152 Of course, if you're a Mayweather fan you're hardly gonna think the contrary, are you? A boxing fan however, would have a clearer perspective on match ups.
Muy Bien Roberto, le diste una lección de box a ese pobre globo inflado por el marketing, como corre y como agarra ese leonard y como acabó su carrera dando lástima; bien Roberto eres una leyenda del box mundial...
what a fucking fight!! the likes of you will never witness again for the rest of your miserable lives. damn I'd love to see this in blu-ray quality! pound 4 pound Duran the best around!
@WLuico "hard to tell period"? What are you talking about? If you make a statement, at least make an attempt to back it up. Unless you don't have anything with substance to say.
@jperez9805 If Duran , Hagler , Arguello , Hearns , Leonard were fighting today , not only they would clean up all pertaining divisions , but they woul do it without breaking a sweat.
Give Leonard a break...you would be holding on if you were in there with Duran. Take a couple of bodyshots they don't feel so good. I would hold just to piss my opponent off. Its not only boxing it's psychological warfare too.
It's a freakin mugging, Leonard is holding like I have never seen, not one warning, how come? Ferdie is so onesided in his commentary, it's shameful. Duran lands a great right and all they can talk about is how great Ray is for taking it.....sickening.
Rd 7 Ta,..both guys obviously winded,..alot of posturing in the middle,..duran forcing him into the ropes,..nuthing substantial by either..final minute duran scores to thehead n body with hooks, leonard tries to fight back,solid hooks by roberto at the 30 second mark, leonard missing badly,..durans round..barely
I agree with you about Mayweather Jr being hyped & he is afraid to lose, as his undefeated record (42 -0) is his only claim to "greatest boxer ever". - lol - Larry Holmes was 48 -0 or 49 -0 before he lost a questionable decision to M Spinks. However, Holmes was not a braggart like Floyd Jr and never hyped his 48- 0 record as a claim to "greatest boxer ever ... in a league of his own" ... like PBF. What BS!
Una pelea excelente de dos guerreros y dos leyendas del boxeo,el fallo de Leonard fue el ir a la batalla de tu a tu con manos de hierro y no hacer su boxeo de piernas y esquive,posiblemente por todo lo que había comentado Roberto Duran sobre él,aun así fue muy igualado y pudo haber sido Nulo.Leyendas!!!
@jason60152 His KO percentage is good ? Compare it to Hagler , Hearns , or Duran ! Mosley was washed up when he fought him . I dought he will beat him ; however Cotto is no Duran or Hearns either .
bob arum just lost floyd, and had to get another cash cow, hype him up and try to talk up a larger than life fight with the ppv king, lol its exactly genius, give bob credit also.!
For the fifth rd in a row ferdies loving leonard, lol..keeps cryin whart a fighter!,..forgetting roberto's the 3-1 UNDERDOG N WINNING SO FAR....1st minute of round duran scores a few nice uppercuts n a body shot,..then ray gets a nice one in too, cute move by duran as he resets after a faint right, both trade jabs as rays boxing more, but little effect, inside 20 secs an both open up, roberto with two nice right hands, one hurting ray,.as he flurries to the body in the corner, duran rd, 79-75
If you had bothered to watch a full Duran fight in his prime you`d feel really stupid about saying stuff like that... Duran pisses on floyd career wise and head 2 head.... its an insult to Duran or Leonard to mention floyd in the same sentence, these guys fought each other to settle p4p best, floyd had his chance & fucked it up vs a much easier opponent in pacquiao, he doesnt deserve to be ranked alongside these 2 legends & because him & pacs actions neither ever will be. The end.
@rudziu102 It`s not pacquiao`s fault that he fights old guys cuz there are no legit young fighters out there. Andre Berto lost, Juanma Lopez lost. Gamboa`s still in a lower weight class. Cotto, margarito, david diaz, solis, hatton, morales, clottey are legit contenders & champions when pacman fought them.
Yes, that is why all experts has him amongst their top five leightweight, and top ten pfp boxers of all time. Read some books, and stop making a fool of yourself!
don't even waste your time trying to educate these fools; either of these men would beat the crap out of fighters like: Floyd, Manny, Cotto, Margarito etc.
pacquiao fought him after he came off that dreadful lost to Margorito. plus he was weight drained... yes floyd could of won the fight easy, just look at the first 5 rounds, he simply out boxed the guy. 6-10 he started laying on the ropes making the great cotto miss some shots, but give cotto credit for keep fireing....it was a great fight. floyd & cotto are world class fighters, floyd is gonna expose the great manny pacquiao((the boy is great)) but his not in floyds class.!
oh yeah and why pacquiao didnt accept the cotto fight at 154.? ((cotto went for him first)) pacman aint take it, so floyd((he couldnt make the pacman fight)) stepped up and fought him
he more or less just shrugged off my comments(in a conceited manner); which is totally cool that's his prerogative he didn't know me from the next guy & there we were talking boxing. But he knew that I knew my shit because we talked about other peripheral boxers of the era. The point is Mayweather didn't do or look so hot that night vs Castillo; Jose Luis was flat out robbed that night; so in essence Floyd should have 1 loss. but let me guess, your probably OK with that bullshit decision?
@jason60152 How does he not have a chance against the top welterweights when he has a better welterweight resume than Mayweather and two ATG welterweight champions on it, including one of the top 3 greatest welterweights of all time? He beat Hall of Fame welterweight champions Cuevas (albeit at 154), Palomino and top P4P ATG Leonard at his very best. That makes Mayweather's resume at 147 look like turd. Considering he has already beaten the top welterweights OF ALL TIME kind of kills yr theory.
@jason60152 Hahahahaha Mosley can't spell Duran ! Mosley with his glass chin would get FUP in 5 rounds .Mosley does not have the power nor the chin to defeat Duran .
@jason60152 Simply because Hearns is a legend , Mayweather is a bum . Mayweather not only has not been challenged because his era is very scarce on talent but he dodges fighters like Pacquiao. The level of talent Hearn"s era had Mayweather has not even dreamed of . Sugar Ray had chin , and Power thats why he beat Hearns . Mayweather has defence but lacks power , and chin .
@jason60152 Really? lol! Mayweather has beaten more HOFers than Duran? Considering no one that Mayweather has beaten is in yet, that's a little hard to say no? Christ, some of you guys are tools. Unless you missed it the first time, Duran DID beat the top welterweights. He beat arguably the greatest welterweight outside of Ray Robinson. That is a lot more than Mayweather has ever gotten close to doing. That is not arguable. Who is the best 147er Mayweather has beaten? Judah? lol.
@jason60152 Mayweather is a bum because he has dodged all real challenges including Pacquiao. Mayweather is also a bum because his era is full of incompetence no real boxers today .Mayweather vs Duran ? or Hagler ? are you fucking kidding me !
In two or three years from today...People will not remember who Mayweather or Pacquiao are! Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler were the best! On their worst day any one them would kill paquiao or Mayweather. Actually manny and Mayweather SUCK! But the people have forgotten what real boxing was. So suck fighters are making it today as if they are something.
so honestly speaking what did you think of Floyd's performance against Cotto?? you know what I think: pretty(like his name) overrated & boring like always. Look at it honestly Manny actually fought Cotto 1st & simply did a much better job by actually concluding the fight.
why do you bring up Marciano? is that an attempt to look smart on your part? Rocky was a tough customer no doubt; but come on! his level of competition was no where near Ali's or Duran's for that matter. He fought an over the hill Louis then acquired the belt from a past his prime Jersey Joe; then had a rematch; 2 of his notable defenses were against Light-Heavyweights: Charles & Moore. Duran wouldn't make your top 20?? who gives a fuck! that's why he's ranked 5th by Ring Magazine!
easily?? not as easy as you think! gave the fans what they wanted?? LOL! your buying into Floyd's lame excuse. Floyd should be in everyone's top 5?? childish! not worthy of a refutation. you didn't answer my question: who did it better out of the 2? and should a bit more credit be given to Pacquiao since he fought Cotto among others FIRST!
whatever yeah he was injured but he lost that fight! Castillo didn't knock him out huh? well did Mayweather KO Castillo? hell no! instead it was your typical back-peddling evasive boring ass performance from Floyd. on the level of Ali & Leonard?? WOW! I don't know what else to say to you? the "shine shoes" quip wasn't in reference your occupation? it was simply to try & make you look foolish! which I happen to think you more than are! with you high opinion of the mediocre Mayweather.
Duran is winning at this point & he won the whole fight clearly, it was very competitive but you cannot deny Roberto this victory... arguably the greatest single win in boxing history if you take on board this was a prime Leonard & Duran was the smaller guy & had had 72 (71-1) fights under his belt going into the fight, amazing performance (by both men)
IMO the 2 best fighters since Muhammad Ali.
You're absolutely right! And I'm absolutely wrong!
I don't know what I was thinking about at the time of my earlier comment, but your concise and yet profoundly informative response has helped me to see the light.
I don't know what line of work you are currently in, but with your flair for language and sophisticated negotiation skills you really should think about a career in politics.
:-)
I absolutely love the way Duran's corner throws him off the stool like he is a wild animal. He is!!!
There is so much skill displayed in this fight. It's beautiful. Not even Pacquiao and Mayweather fighting can come close to this level of skill and boxing ability
toda la pelea RAY se la paso amarrando a DURAN a mi pensar era una estrategia que lo hacia ver mal porque no boxea como se tiene que boxear RAY le tenia MIEDO a duran Y MIEDO DE VERDAD porque sabia que DURAN LO PODRIA TUMBAR CON CUALQUIER DERECHAZO BIEN PUESTO...
"DURAN EL MEJOR BOXEADOR LATINOAMERICANO DE TODOS LOS TIEMPOS"
this is as exciting now as it was back in the day live..gr8 warriors thriyght the whole boxing world back then too..Siame there'll never be another superfight again....I muss the late 79s thru to the 90s ..
That huge right hand at the end of the 8th was a big punch in the fight. In rounds 5-8 the momentum was starting to shift Sugar Ray's way. His hand speed and brutal body attack on the inside was getting to duran a little bit and Roberto looked like he was maybe starting to slow down.
Than all of a sudden...BANG!! Big right hand and from the ninth on Duran got his second wind and took back command of the fight
excelente pelea!!! saludos desde chiapas, méxico!!
Ray got rocked @ 1:16 and held on for dear life. I remember this fight as if it were yesterday. Duran is truly one of the greatest fighters that ever lived. Sugar Ray was one of the greatest welterweight that ever lived. If Ray was fighting today, he would clean up the welterweight division.
I have it even through eight rounds. What a fight.
The thing you gotta love about Leonard is he can change his style and fight any way he needs to. He can run away and jab but can also go toe to toe if he wants to.
a defensive brawl!! nothing like this anymore.
I live in Vegas currently & in the past; I've run into Floyd on several occasions; in a related story; I met him for the 1st time at the old Tower Records on Sahara ave.; he was cordial we talked boxing & he even gave me his business card due to the fact that I was there with a musician friend & he was also dabbling in music production. Anyways we talked boxing; it was before his 1st fight with Castillo, he was a bit arrogant & I even remember warning him on how tough & complex Castillo could be
@TRIPLESIXSICCNESS Well, everyone's entitled to their opinion i guess. What's your scorecard like at this stage in the fight? Which rounds do you think I've got wrong, and why? I'm not trying to attack you, I'm just genuinely interested in finding out which rounds we disagree on...
Los 2 grandes boxeadores ke x suerte e visto sugar leonar y mano de piedra duran
Roberto Duran is my hero.
7:39 look the body shot of duran, MAN, that was beautiful, he throgh punches with perfection
Rounds 7 and 8 are very very close. I've given them both even. Duran goes in with his head quite a lot at the start of rd 9. No warning from the ref. But, then again SRL has been holding all night and the ref has let it go, so it's all fair.
Fantastic fight.
Rd 1: Duran 9 - Leonard 10
Rd 2: Duran 10 - Leonard 9
Rd 3: Duran 10 - Leonard 9
Rd 4: Duran 10 - Leonard 9
Rd 5: Duran 9 - Leonard 10
Rd 6: Duran 9 - Leonard 10
Rd 7: Duran 10 - Leonard 10
Rd 8: Duran 10 - Leonard 10
This was the greatest era in boxing, for 2 reasons...1) there was 4 alltime greats at there peak in the same wieghtclass,..and 2) They all fight eachother!.....Im 31 & I wish I was born about 15 yrs earlier so I coulda witnessed this era with the knowledge I have now,...But I dont agree with the people saying that Pac & Floyd aint on these guys level! Pac, Floyd &Martinez are absolutely on the level as these guys,..Lets not get TOO caught up in this fight and lose touch with reality fellas lol
can we see fights like this one, nowadays,
fue la mejor pelea de duran porque le gano por cojones y decision a un boxeador mas joven mas rapido en su peso natural y con las cualidades extraordinarias de sugar ray leonard
@trpmmr2
Couldn't have put it better myself :-)
Fights like this encapsulate the very essence of the sport.
@WLuico Hard to tell? That he was hurt @ 1:16 or that he would clean up the welterweight division? Because both are pretty obvious to me.
@ianandori - un-fucking real ! such class ! Miss this kind of boxing .
this is what you call boxing
haha I agree with you!. Of course the only way to survive duran was running! Duran= Hands of stone
SRL= Legs of rabbit and super fast hands.
@chapinrey Amen. And they sure as hell wouldn't need a catchweight!
You mean, Roberto "Manos de Piedra" Duran is not a real legend? LOL. That is a strange statement.
These older fighters were better "fighters" than Floyd but definitely not better "boxers". I can tell you one thing, in a Floyd fight, you clearly see who is winning the entire fight with picture perfect clean punches. The older guys were more like warriors, punching hard and often. Floyd is more like a professor. I love the hard nose fighting of the vets but I'd rather see the perfection of Floyd. Big ups to the big four(Duran,Leonard,Hearns and Hagler).
8:39 DAMN!
Adrenacrumb, you are so right. when Duran was 26 this fight would have ended within 10 rounds. Duran never fights like this again with this kind of hand speed .This Duran beats every fighter up to middleweight.
@josecito1718yari tienes razón amigo ray se la paso amarrando, y solo marcaba golpes con la rapidez que tenía
Esta en cámara rápida.... Como el pico
Leonard was fighting the 30 seconds then tried to steal the round fighting the last 30 seconds.
Duran took at least 6 of the first 7 if not all seven! The announcers had Duran up by about a point? Even they are fooled by the steal a round technique!!!! Lol
No más, no más.
No love loss between these two. This was str8 up hate fight.
These 2 guys actually really hated eachother and it showed...
@adrenacrumb And the so called n" no mas " fight against Leonard , Leonard asked for the rematch inmediatly not giving Duran enough time to prepare ; Two weeks before the fight Duran's corner asked for the fight to be postponed because Duran was not in shape . Of course Leonards corner denied for the petition to postpone the fight .
@yomi76 Rd 7 was clearly RD, you are listening to Ferdie too much, Duran is eating up Leonard so far. He goes on and on about how great Leonard is and no mention of a lightweight moving up and pushing around a true welter. Rd8 is Duran as well, Leonard is missing a lot, Duran is landing clean and heavy shots.
People say Leonard was quick, well holy fuck, Duran had the reflexes of a mongoose
@jason60152 Of course, if you're a Mayweather fan you're hardly gonna think the contrary, are you? A boxing fan however, would have a clearer perspective on match ups.
Muy Bien Roberto, le diste una lección de box a ese pobre globo inflado por el marketing, como corre y como agarra ese leonard y como acabó su carrera dando lástima; bien Roberto eres una leyenda del box mundial...
don't forget his footwork in this fight too setto light
what a fucking fight!! the likes of you will never witness again for the rest of your miserable lives.
damn I'd love to see this in blu-ray quality!
pound 4 pound Duran the best around!
@WLuico "hard to tell period"? What are you talking about? If you make a statement, at least make an attempt to back it up. Unless you don't have anything with substance to say.
@jperez9805 If Duran , Hagler , Arguello , Hearns , Leonard were fighting today , not only they would clean up all pertaining divisions , but they woul do it without breaking a sweat.
Give Leonard a break...you would be holding on if you were in there with Duran. Take a couple of bodyshots they don't feel so good. I would hold just to piss my opponent off. Its not only boxing it's psychological warfare too.
What a dirty fighter Leonard was, holding all the time..He had some balls and great boxing technique, but why to hold so much ?
mute?
:D
It's a freakin mugging, Leonard is holding like I have never seen, not one warning, how come? Ferdie is so onesided in his commentary, it's shameful. Duran lands a great right and all they can talk about is how great Ray is for taking it.....sickening.
Rd 7 Ta,..both guys obviously winded,..alot of posturing in the middle,..duran forcing him into the ropes,..nuthing substantial by either..final minute duran scores to thehead n body with hooks, leonard tries to fight back,solid hooks by roberto at the 30 second mark, leonard missing badly,..durans round..barely
5:53 Duran dance like a robot, always funny el cholo, VIVA PANAMÁ
I agree with you about Mayweather Jr being hyped & he is afraid to lose, as his undefeated record (42 -0) is his only claim to "greatest boxer ever". - lol - Larry Holmes was 48 -0 or 49 -0 before he lost a questionable decision to M Spinks. However, Holmes was not a braggart like Floyd Jr and never hyped his 48- 0 record as a claim to "greatest boxer ever ... in a league of his own" ... like PBF. What BS!
Amazing how they keep the instensity during each round, No of todays clowns on any UFC Strike force, etc could last a minute at this pace.
Una pelea excelente de dos guerreros y dos leyendas del boxeo,el fallo de Leonard fue el ir a la batalla de tu a tu con manos de hierro y no hacer su boxeo de piernas y esquive,posiblemente por todo lo que había comentado Roberto Duran sobre él,aun así fue muy igualado y pudo haber sido Nulo.Leyendas!!!
@jason60152 His KO percentage is good ? Compare it to Hagler , Hearns , or Duran ! Mosley was washed up when he fought him . I dought he will beat him ; however Cotto is no Duran or Hearns either .
bob arum just lost floyd, and had to get another cash cow, hype him up and try to talk up a larger than life fight with the ppv king, lol its exactly genius, give bob credit also.!
For the fifth rd in a row ferdies loving leonard, lol..keeps cryin whart a fighter!,..forgetting roberto's the 3-1 UNDERDOG N WINNING SO FAR....1st minute of round duran scores a few nice uppercuts n a body shot,..then ray gets a nice one in too, cute move by duran as he resets after a faint right, both trade jabs as rays boxing more, but little effect, inside 20 secs an both open up, roberto with two nice right hands, one hurting ray,.as he flurries to the body in the corner, duran rd, 79-75
@lp32862 Yeah he had blown up like to 200 pounds and had to sweat that weight off. He clearly wasn't at his best for the rematch,
If you had bothered to watch a full Duran fight in his prime you`d feel really stupid about saying stuff like that... Duran pisses on floyd career wise and head 2 head.... its an insult to Duran or Leonard to mention floyd in the same sentence, these guys fought each other to settle p4p best, floyd had his chance & fucked it up vs a much easier opponent in pacquiao, he doesnt deserve to be ranked alongside these 2 legends & because him & pacs actions neither ever will be. The end.
Leonard is hurt!
I'dve taken two points so far from Leonard for holding and another for having no class
that right would have killed a Lightweight (135)
@rudziu102 It`s not pacquiao`s fault that he fights old guys cuz there are no legit young fighters out there. Andre Berto lost, Juanma Lopez lost. Gamboa`s still in a lower weight class. Cotto, margarito, david diaz, solis, hatton, morales, clottey are legit contenders & champions when pacman fought them.
Yes, that is why all experts has him amongst their top five leightweight, and top ten pfp boxers of all time. Read some books, and stop making a fool of yourself!
@yomi76
LOL!
Duran forcing the action,..throwing more and getting ray back into the ropes,.durans ahead 69-66..with the one round (1st) even..
don't even waste your time trying to educate these fools; either of these men would beat the crap out of fighters like: Floyd, Manny, Cotto, Margarito etc.
pacquiao fought him after he came off that dreadful lost to Margorito.
plus he was weight drained...
yes floyd could of won the fight easy, just look at the first 5 rounds, he simply out boxed the guy.
6-10 he started laying on the ropes making the great cotto miss some shots, but give cotto credit for keep fireing....it was a great fight.
floyd & cotto are world class fighters, floyd is gonna expose the great manny pacquiao((the boy is great)) but his not in floyds class.!
Puro. Maruyero. Para conseguir. El triunfo
@WLuico Like I said, no substance. Best of luck, chappie. :)
oh yeah and why pacquiao didnt accept the cotto fight at 154.?
((cotto went for him first))
pacman aint take it, so floyd((he couldnt make the pacman fight))
stepped up and fought him
he more or less just shrugged off my comments(in a conceited manner); which is totally cool that's his prerogative he didn't know me from the next guy & there we were talking boxing. But he knew that I knew my shit because we talked about other peripheral boxers of the era. The point is Mayweather didn't do or look so hot that night vs Castillo; Jose Luis was flat out robbed that night; so in essence Floyd should have 1 loss.
but let me guess, your probably OK with that bullshit decision?
had srl boxed he probably would have won.
sucio para pelear el sugar
@jason60152 How does he not have a chance against the top welterweights when he has a better welterweight resume than Mayweather and two ATG welterweight champions on it, including one of the top 3 greatest welterweights of all time? He beat Hall of Fame welterweight champions Cuevas (albeit at 154), Palomino and top P4P ATG Leonard at his very best. That makes Mayweather's resume at 147 look like turd. Considering he has already beaten the top welterweights OF ALL TIME kind of kills yr theory.
He never got knocked out because he never fought a Duran , Or a Hagler . He never fought a real puncher .
I don't see any greatness in Duran. A lie that is told all the time looks like a real true. He is no " el mejor boxeador"
@jason60152 Hahahahaha Mosley can't spell Duran ! Mosley with his glass chin would get FUP in 5 rounds .Mosley does not have the power nor the chin to defeat Duran .
Go do your homework, boy. And be quiet. Children ought to keep quiet.
DURAN DEFEATED SUGAR, HA HA,HA,HA,HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@jason60152 Simply because Hearns is a legend , Mayweather is a bum . Mayweather not only has not been challenged because his era is very scarce on talent but he dodges fighters like Pacquiao. The level of talent Hearn"s era had Mayweather has not even dreamed of . Sugar Ray had chin , and Power thats why he beat Hearns . Mayweather has defence but lacks power , and chin .
@jason60152 Really? lol! Mayweather has beaten more HOFers than Duran? Considering no one that Mayweather has beaten is in yet, that's a little hard to say no? Christ, some of you guys are tools. Unless you missed it the first time, Duran DID beat the top welterweights. He beat arguably the greatest welterweight outside of Ray Robinson. That is a lot more than Mayweather has ever gotten close to doing. That is not arguable. Who is the best 147er Mayweather has beaten? Judah? lol.
floyd would defo beat duran
@jason60152 Hhehehehe , you need to educate yourself , and stop comparing todays bums with legends .
@jason60152 Mayweather is a bum because he has dodged all real challenges including Pacquiao. Mayweather is also a bum because his era is full of incompetence no real boxers today .Mayweather vs Duran ? or Hagler ? are you fucking kidding me !
dude, be quiet.
In two or three years from today...People will not remember who Mayweather or Pacquiao are! Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler were the best! On their worst day any one them would kill paquiao or Mayweather. Actually manny and Mayweather SUCK! But the people have forgotten what real boxing was. So suck fighters are making it today as if they are something.
Duran fukccc
so honestly speaking what did you think of Floyd's performance against Cotto??
you know what I think: pretty(like his name) overrated & boring like always. Look at it honestly Manny actually fought Cotto 1st & simply did a much better job by actually concluding the fight.
why do you bring up Marciano? is that an attempt to look smart on your part? Rocky was a tough customer no doubt; but come on! his level of competition was no where near Ali's or Duran's for that matter. He fought an over the hill Louis then acquired the belt from a past his prime Jersey Joe; then had a rematch; 2 of his notable defenses were against Light-Heavyweights: Charles & Moore.
Duran wouldn't make your top 20?? who gives a fuck! that's why he's ranked 5th by Ring Magazine!
i dont see greatness in Leonard. He was the bigget holder of all times.
easily?? not as easy as you think! gave the fans what they wanted?? LOL! your buying into Floyd's lame excuse.
Floyd should be in everyone's top 5?? childish! not worthy of a refutation.
you didn't answer my question: who did it better out of the 2? and should a bit more credit be given to Pacquiao since he fought Cotto among others FIRST!
whatever yeah he was injured but he lost that fight! Castillo didn't knock him out huh? well did Mayweather KO Castillo? hell no! instead it was your typical back-peddling evasive boring ass performance from Floyd.
on the level of Ali & Leonard?? WOW! I don't know what else to say to you?
the "shine shoes" quip wasn't in reference your occupation? it was simply to try & make you look foolish! which I happen to think you more than are! with you high opinion of the mediocre Mayweather.
damn I could of fucking swore it was MARYweather?