Do the Conservatives understand their own policy? | LBC
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
- ‘We cannot pretend that this is not deeply deeply shameful.’
James O’Brien reacts to Policing minister Chris Philp’s Question Time slip up, which left audience members shocked after he asked whether Rwanda was a different country from Congo.
The scenario led James to ask if the government really understands what the newly passed Rwanda bill does or ‘what it is designed to achieve’.
The government minister was questioned by an audience member about the Bill and what this meant for those travelling to the UK from the neighbouring country of Congo.
It comes after the Prime Minister’s flagship Rwanda bill was passed on Monday after he announced the first flights deporting asylum seekers to the country would take off in 10 to 12 weeks.
The bill was officially passed into law on after being granted royal assent on Thursday.
It followed weeks of parliamentary deadlock between the Commons and Lords.
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Why are the Tories not under criminal investigation?
The ESTABLISHMENT....and Client Media PRESS Allways Protect their OWN......
@@michaelfoy 👍🏼
They would do a great job investigating themselves. For a bargain price of £20m and 5 years.
they are above the law
Because the people who own the press, and the Police, also owns them.
This Government since 2010 is the most incompetent in my lifetime.
AND the most corrupt!!!
Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Sunak - terrible
I don't know. Brown was pretty bad with Gillian Duffy, lol.
Give it time , there's worse to come , flip flops in town
Were you born in 2010? The Labour Gov from 1997 to 2007 was certainly more incompetent.
The fact that we are accepting asylum seekers from Rwanda tells you everything about this policy....EVERYTHING
They're known to break the human rights conventions. Denmark is doing the same to people. It's a horrific treatment.
A gimmick. Nothing more, nothing less.
Did we EVER have a say?
It's bizarre isn't it
@@malcolmmitchell6529it’s the will of the people according to the Daily Express. Sigh.
I was shocked that they won a majority in 2019, but nothing they do suprises or shocks me anymore. Most of them should be in prison.
James O'brien helped the tories win that election by his rants against Jeremy corbyn.
@@stuartparker6838- yeah, right.
@@ericmiddleton8367 yeah right what .obrien attacked corbyn all the time before the election..he was responsible for the tories winning that election.
@@ericmiddleton8367 he did .he constantly at the election called corbyn a reactionist and and anti jewish
@@ericmiddleton8367 and we got boris instead of Jeremy
The problem with the Tories is they are still deluded that Britain is better off outside the E.U.
They boxed themselves into a corner by attempting to appeal to the hardliners, yet they know if they go the full Mogg (massive deregulation and removing worker's rights), they'd have mass strikes and protests across the nation and be unelectable for decades.
A lot of them did understand the harm brexit will cause to the trade in goods, but they saw a golden opportunity to carve up the red wall vote and worry about the consequences at the next election.
which the majority voted for in the UK 😂
Pauln6803 The European Union have moved on they are realising that Ukraine will be less troublesome and that's saying something with the problems there.
Unfortunately Labour are also deluding themselves but hopefully that is electoral tactics. Anyone with half a brain cell knows it's a disaster.
No, they knew the country would be much worse off. However to them the important thing was that they could use it to make themselves much better off.
Shameful 😂 he was definitely put on the spot. Just shows what clowns 🤡 are running this country.
If that bog standard question puts an MP on the spot they have no place being an MP .
I failed my geography standard grade but even I know Congo and Rwanda are different countries.
@@lizdocherty3067 They share two borders apparently, can't lie just found that out, but the answer to the question really needed no geography at all.
They just listen to keywords and read out their notes based on those words
Put himself on the spot: arrogant ignorance!
The thing is, the man asking the question, laid out the facts so clearly. All Philps had to do was listen.
Aye, but he’s a Tory minister…..
I am 84 years of age and I can honestly say I have never known a government as bad as this there is not one who knows what they are doing unless it’s lining there own pocket#
I'm not far behind you, and can remember the odd scoundrel - but they were reasonably bright. This lot is thick as mince.
My Dad says Thatcher's government was worse with all the privatisation policies and miner's strikes. They also lined their pockets loads more.
I can definitely agree the current lot are the most incompetent in living memory and probably ever. However, the tories have always lined their own, and their mate's, pockets and people still vote for them. It's crazy.
Hate, hate, HATE tories.
And the tories hate you so its swings and roundabouts innit, I don’t im with you ❤️
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It’s okay to hate the hateful and choose the side of love. Two wrongs most definitely DO make a right in this case ❤
They want the power of Kings but the responsibility of a toddler.
The gulping Chris Philps would probably think DR Congo was a surgeon.
..or when asked to list the 52 states of America would say Knot's Landing and Columbo.
😂 💀 😅!
Look at the audience hand picked far left communists.
Rwanda is a safe country that is at war!
How long will we be a safe country. This discussion should not be taking place, the discussions in this country should be about sorting this country out, which has gone by the board for years because that’s all we hear about is immigrants. This agenda has been pushed and pushed by the elites. The only discussions we should be having is people from elsewhere who are genuine refugees. This is about pay back for Brexit, because they can never allow the ordinary working man to win at anything. Well with one exception maybe, and that is fighting their wars for them.
Ah the ignorance of the UK 🇬🇧 government 😢!!!!
Let's be honest about it, the torie right wing government, the worst government in many a decade
Matched only by the ignorance of a significant proportion of the electorate.
@@willsumnall3499who will continue to vote for the manifesto of corruption that the Tories have been guilty of.
Who cares about Africa in England? Nobody should
@@wheyayeman404that and the fact that the FPTP voting system is biased in their favor!
Tories don't care about anyone or anything. Only themselves.
Always been that way my friend always will be the party that don’t care….!!!! 🤷🏽♂️
@@mufccharliemufcglazersout as nye bevan said the Tories are lower than vermin
Red and blue torys
@@jasoncooper9391yes and he'd say the same about kier starmer
same with the Labour. You think the other party deeply cares about lowering your tax or stopping illegals at Eu borders?
I dislike the Tory’s why ? They killed my friend during COVID, he couldn’t get food and died from malnutrition.
All the shops in my town are boarded up, prices are sky high on food, the country is collapsing around us all.
They was to busy counting the millions saved on state pension payouts. Due to the Covid extermination. Why the media has not asked what happened to that money is beyond me.
I’m so sad to hear this… the govt were complicit.
Labour were pushing for even more draconian Covid measures
Remember, this isn’t a global financial crisis that might have caused this. This is years of Tories running the tap down on this country and handing us Brexit which further damages this country. This is years of managed. Steady decline on this country. This will take years if not generations to recover from, if it ever does. It’s like the damage they left us from the 80s and 90s is still affecting us now.
Which town is this?
I remember Ian Dale on LBC being surprised that asylum seekers being sent to Rwanda for processing would have no possibility of returning to the U.K.
Rwanda sponsor arsenal fc "visit Rwanda "
"Lord" Eric Pickles also did not realise this when asked about it by Owen Jones at the Tory Party conference last year - and yet he is a legislator.
If the government request it, they can be returned. "Section 1 (3) (b): [The Government of the Republic of Rwanda has, in accordance with the Rwanda Treaty, agreed to fulfil the following obligations-] (b) that any relocated individual is to be made available for return to the United Kingdom following a request from the Government of the United Kingdom;" The chances of the Tories actually requesting a return are probably close to zero.
I just love the expression on Wes Streetings face, it's complete and utter disbelief.
This Rwanda policy is so disgusting and embarrassing and anyone with a tiny sense of decency doesn't want it. I know this country has fallen very far but I have to still believe that most people are against this.
France is a very safe place I'm the first place.
Talk for yourself
It fell when tony blair took us to an illegal war based on lies.
Rwanda sponsor arsenal fc "visit Rwanda "😂
@@evolassunglasses4673 And your point is?
I suggest you read the UN Convention on Refugees before posting, because there is no mandate to have to claim asylum in any particular safe country.
To be honest, I thought that Rwanda and Congo were counties in Ireland. How am I, as a Tory minister, supposed to keep up with such minuscule and unimportant details?
They probably are by now.
It's almost ironic that if Diane Abbott had said it then we'd still be talking about it 20 years later. (Ironic because as well as being a woman and left-of-centre, Abbott is also Black and some would say that those 3 attributes together make her a popular target for criticism).
See, she only made a mistake once, that's not how you get away with it! You need to follow the Tory playbook and be jaw-droppingly incompetent all the time, so people can't keep up! /s
Unfortunately james obrian has zero respect for diane Abbott either.
I agree with you except your use of ironic, which is completely wrong.
@@andrewcarson5850yep, it’s not ironic, it’s disgusting.
Abbott is more far-left TBH with Jezza.
I travel a lot and the times people say our government is embarrassing is, embarrassing!
Philps has always had great confidence in his INABILITY.
That was my take, at the end he still thought he had answered that successfully. And Fiona the useless just helped him by moving the topic along.
worse - $unak has great confidence in his INABILITY 🤢
His face should be in the dictionary beside “Dunning Krueger effect”
He doesn't even know the difference between Congo and Rwanda 😂😂😂 Absolutely ridiculous 🙄 😒 so you just take £1.8 million to send one person to a place you don't even know the geopolitical politics in the region 😂😂😂😂
To be fair most people in the UK have no idea about any conflicts in the continent of Africa.
@@adriancoelho306 To be even more fair, it's his gd JOB TO KNOW
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 facts randoms look up the info and know more about conflicts than a person who's supposed to know.
Rwanda is Nextdoor to democratic republic of Congo not Congo
@@adriancoelho306 isn't that why we pay him such a handsome salary to know this things, if a Government official doesn't know the difference between Congo and Rwanda then...I wonder if He knows what he is doing, for an Oxford graduate that is Sad.
See how the Tory presenter jumps straight in to help her chum out.
Rwanda is at war with another county but it is a safe county?
It’s so safe, you can claim asylum from it!
France is very safe
It depends whether the Tories define it to be safe
Rwanda sponsor arsenal fc "visit Rwanda " must be safe😂😂 they pay 10 million a year to arsenal
@@evolassunglasses4673
Pity the Brexit numpties destroyed our treaty with France, isn't it?
I'm shocked. I'm very shocked! I will never get used to it.
Every day, I turn on my laptop to the latest tory scandal.
Of course I'm shocked by the utter stupidity, uselessness
and criminality of these deplorable unashamed thieves.
None of them, have actually read the Rwandan document 😢
I agree
Like the Brexit document.
rwanda sponsor arsenal , "visit rwanda "😂😂😂
Mat Hancock didn't read the medical expert reports before addressing the UK on COVID-19 updates!!!!!
Dense, inept, lazy and self-serving is how I would describe this gov't
He's the type of person who is happy to be ignorant
Yes, he'll be working in a different department next week
just goes to show after 14 years they've reached the bottom of the barrel
They reached that back in 2019 when Bojo withdrew the whip from any Tories who had a modicum of integrity and competence. Now they've broken through the bottom and are tunneling to the centre of the earth.
They scraped through the bottom of the barrel long ago. They're halfway to Australia now😢
And the crayon scribblers are now forcing Reform on us😢
They'll go lower...watch this space
No, they can still break through the bottom of the barrel. Just watch!
Its going to cost us all more money.
Yes so that the money then can be funnelled by into our MPs pockets.
It looked a bit like Philps had just looked it up on wikipedia on his phone. "They're actually different countries".
Who cares? 🤷 LBC is left wing drivel
"There isn't". Two devastating words from J-Bob. Absolutely shreds Philp's unpardonable justification for a despicable bill.
The man who had his hand up then face palmed was very relatable reaction and great camera work to get it in
Tories live in such a small world... What pathetic creatures?
One big globalists World
Philips is not the sharpest tool in the box... he isn't even in the box!!?
Why does nobody ask them what happens to refugees that do not go to Rwanda? Once the Rwanda Act becomes law, the Home Sec has a legal obligation to remove ALL irregular arrivals. However, if say 40,000 arrive and we say manage to send 500 to Rwanda, that leaves 39,500 effectively in limbo?! But, once those 'in limbo' exceed any holding capacity, they are going to have to grant an amnesty! This just confirms the whole scheme to be an ill-considered farce!!!
They all look the same to him.
His Maps of The Empire are still Pink.
Prove it.
@@lervish1966 watch the video
@@blazzz13 That's your truth not mine.
It originated with Bozo the clown didn't it , so no obviously
Boris Johnson was a serial lier.
The best bit of the QT clip is the exasperated arm gesture of the questioner, which seems to say, "Who is this utter clown?"
And the fellow just below and to the left of him who rolls his eyes and then covers them with his hand in utter despair.
Who the Africans?? Why are they here in the first place?
@@klaus1085right. Because there are no European heritage people in the continent of Africa.
@@TheIdlesurfer To be fair the number is dwindling, they keep getting chopped up in farm murders
@@jeffsimon9594 Check historically who's murdered more of the other between Europeans and Africans.
I don't mind the lack of geographic knowledge, but not knowing the details of a flagship policy that your government is heavily promoting is inexcusable. The lack of basic competence in the current government is astounding.
My reaction to the Ministers statement; yikes!!!
When you’re scraping the bottom of the barrel because you can’t get or can’t be bothered finding educated professional people into government
they don't want experts in their govt.
Literally couldn't make it up!
Geology was never his strong subject.
Geography 🤔????
Nor is it yours clearly. I suggest you look up the difference between geology or geography.
You mean he has rocks for brains?
Ha ha! I (at least) saw what you did there. Chapeau!
Neither is geography by the look of things Sometimes I wonder if this current batch of Tories had any education at all.
It makes me cringe. He is our MP , all I can say is I didn't vote for him. He's a complete disgrace 😢
This is horrifying
It's just a gimmick but not understanding the policy being brought into a law is unbelievable.
The young man who asks the question very clearly and articulately explains that Congo is “a neighbouring country” and “geographically right next door”.
Clearly Hunt wasn’t listening to the question along with being completely oblivious to events going on.
Get them all gone,don't care where.
The Tories? Agreed.
Of course we all agree! Get the Tories all gone asap!
The rest of the world is shocked and disgusted by it, even if the UK isn’t
Cruelty is the point.
Let's be fair James the Tories had no idea what the effect of any policy he and they have espoused for ever for anything
How many policies do labour have?? Both hopeless
Sending people to Rwanda where there is no work for them there’s no work for Rwanda 🇷🇼 people 🤯🤯🤯🤯
There is no need for there to be work, we are sending the country loads of money.
@@thomasmyers4089 I seen on the news there going to live like kings and queens there houses and apartments look amazing
Seeing as all the living accomodation has been flogged off, l am sure they will supply only the best ex-army tents.
DEEPLY SHAMEFUL. ????? Where the F is Sangita???????????????????
"Um Bongo, Um Bongo, they drink it in the Sudan...well it's NEAR the Congo, isn't it?"
Sigh.
Philps also suggested we wouldn’t send asylum seekers back to Rwanda…So he’s accepting that Asylum seekers would come from Rwanda, ergo, the country isn’t completely safe. For example, you wouldn’t need to say that about Republic of Ireland or Germany. Two countries use that have had their troubles in the past but whom are now safe.
Tories don't know the difference between their hind side and a hole in the ground. So, stop looking for some sort of logic in Tories mind. That is a contradictions in terms.
What is the Labour shadow plan for migration other then not talking about it.
@@stuartrussell3490 they have spoke about it an they reopen the claim offices in france instead of them making the crossing in boat
I wonder how many Palestinians they would deport to Israel 😢
Truly vile policy
Oh dear, this is the caliber of our so called leaders.
If he had listened to the question properly he would heard they were different countries! Talk about 'as thick as mince!'
The Supreme Court said there is no safety net if we use Rwanda, for anyone, So we will be sending no one.
It doesn’t matter how many courts they set up, they can’t disagree with the Supreme Court.
This is the guy who said that no business under 500 employees would be subject to business regulations, you know like having fire extinguishers or making sure the ladder you bought could take your weight or food hygiene or animal welfare standards or minimum wage or holiday entitlement or…, well, you get the idea
My big disagreement with the bill is that, the Uks problem with immigration is that we don’t process enough applications each year to clear that year’s application. This then leads to a back log forming, and as this has been taking place for years now we are left with large amounts of unprocessed applications.
The Uk governments answer to to move them to a 3rd country until they are processed. However to insure the person’s safety we would need to process some of their application to insure that 3rd country is safe, adding further to the amount of processing work that got us into this situation.
TLDR to fix our processing back log, we have added more processing to the application process.
And that's the calibre of people in charge of the country
I love the reactive look in Wes Streeting's eyes.
How much of the money being sent to Rwanda will be used to arm rebels to foment violence along the border with Congo? Thereby creating more refugees heading for Europe.
Well, remember that a portion of the money was for the Rwandan government to build homes for the people we send...which the Rwandan government did...and then sold most of them to locals. The UK government are clowns and the Rwandan government is treating them as such
I'm not sure, but I have a feeling that the 1.8 million pound per sent immigrant has and will not be spent on the accommodations.
Flights will never happen
Nothing this government says or does shocks or surprises me anymore.
The Rwanda policy for me sums up this joke of a gvt. Waste of time, uworkable, pointless, corrupt!
James, you summed it up succinctly with “Johnson set the bar so low” and now we expect so little from these people.
ZERO SEATS !!!
The umbongo gag is perfect. Philp is on par for a tory minister. Clueless and lying.
Basically explains everything wrong with this country.
The UK is a different country from France 😂😂😂😂😂
He should have been fired at 9am today
Clover hat
OUT OF A CANNON
@@wendyholland2339 I wouldn’t fancy his chances of survival, based on his poor knowledge of geography
He shouldn't be employed full stop
Criminals. Charge them
With most MPs straight from the Diane Abbott Academy for Applied Mathematics or the Boris Johnson Wiff-Waff School , no wonder the country is in Excreta Maximus.
Seen it last night, cudnt believe my eyes 👀 or ears, how sad are these dam tories 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🙄🙄🙄
Sadly, it's oh too easy to believe 😢
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Is there a requirement for 5th-grade education for political office in the UK?🤦🤦🏿
Based on that interaction about Rwanda and Congo, I'm thinking not😮
Did he pop into the toilet for a bit of China White before the show?
I’ve been refreshing my feed just waiting for this!
Have they got any other policy than lining the pockets of the rich at the expense of the working poor, sick or disabled?
no they haven't.
@@blackbearish correct
Was it not Raab who was unaware that Dover was an important channel port, they do not even know their own country what chance have we got they've a clue about African countries.
Remember the tories are the safe, conservative, pair of hands who are best for the economy 😂😂😂😂
This sums the Tories up completely.
Signing policies that you do not understand..... Yikes!
Did he almost called congo, Bongo 🤦♂️
My question is simple, how can it be deemed safe to send asylum seekers regardless of where they came from to a country currently engaged in a war?
Shows you the level of intelligence of the so called ruling class! 😂
Is there not a minimum standard of education required? Mercy!
Its nice to know im not the only one rolled over in dismay from watching this
Who here voted Tory in the last general election??!! I pray youve finally come to your senses, 'woken up and smelled the coffee!'
My biggest problem with is thathe is a cabinet minister
I'm highly conflicted with such a topic.... however my heart and head always fall back on " I'm sorry this is England/Britain. We may not be full but we are certainly skint and its time to take care of our own. " our govenrment has put this country in so much danger and so many levels and fronts that. The doors must be closed and we must be armed to defend ourselves from the inevitable attacks on our people and society. The government orders and the militarys actions have put this country in soooo much danger!!
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They want to send people to Rwanda AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE AND WHAT IT IS?!?!?!?!
These people are running the UK 👍
Silly question to Philps, "Does that make any sense to you?"
He doesn't know his arsenal from his elbow
They only know their own greed.
That’s the problem with the most of their ministers don’t geography let alone geopolitics.