Who is actually still voting for the Tories? | James O'Brien on LBC

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  • Опубліковано 15 лют 2024
  • With the Tories suffering two by-election defeats with big swings to Labour, James O'Brien questions who is actually still voting for the Conservatives in light of the 'catalogue of errors' made by the government over the last 14 years.
    James also explains how someone as 'ridiculous' as Jacob Rees-Mogg has become the voice of Tory authority on these by-election defeats - emphasising how 'Brexit has created this weird space in which intellectually poor people could profit.'
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  • @stewartjones2173
    @stewartjones2173 3 місяці тому +356

    If my sister can think that Ann Widdecombe should be Prime Minister then obviously there are cohorts of people out there as mad as landed cods.

    • @dean9235
      @dean9235 3 місяці тому +13

      😂😂😂

    • @hg82met
      @hg82met 3 місяці тому +32

      If my sister thought that, I'd be extremely worried.

    • @sueyourself5413
      @sueyourself5413 3 місяці тому +26

      Your sister shouldn't be afforded the right to vote.

    • @amcc5887
      @amcc5887 3 місяці тому +12

      I presume your sister is as old as ann widdecombe right???

    • @csharpe5787
      @csharpe5787 3 місяці тому +23

      I wouldn’t let her out unsupervised!

  • @petyrkowalski9887
    @petyrkowalski9887 3 місяці тому +152

    Reese Mogg is like an exhumed Victorian workhouse master.

    • @JT-si6bl
      @JT-si6bl 3 місяці тому +3

      The last of their kind.

    • @Themisswashere
      @Themisswashere 3 місяці тому +3

      @@JT-si6blwe live in hope

    • @donroyjames6118
      @donroyjames6118 3 місяці тому +1

      🎎 😮 definitely lol 🤣

    • @Sadkoi
      @Sadkoi 3 місяці тому

      I like this one

    • @philipmulville8218
      @philipmulville8218 3 місяці тому +1

      Don't be so unkind to Victorian workhouse masters!

  • @sharadpatel92
    @sharadpatel92 3 місяці тому +281

    Die-hard Tories prioritize their party's interests over the well-being of their country.

    • @user-xk2ig4tc3f
      @user-xk2ig4tc3f 3 місяці тому +38

      They prioritise their personal bank accounts over everything else

    • @anthonysmith8800
      @anthonysmith8800 3 місяці тому +14

      That and their kind, ie very rich people

    • @progressivedemagogue8480
      @progressivedemagogue8480 3 місяці тому +8

      Any Tory does

    • @snowiecat456
      @snowiecat456 3 місяці тому +12

      Die-hard Tories prioritise their own pockets over the well-being of anything.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 3 місяці тому

      @sharad That's always been the case with all parties in government. Where have you been..Mars!

  • @user-ym5dl8ep7o
    @user-ym5dl8ep7o 3 місяці тому +397

    Since Brexit, JRM now lives in the UK while his money lives in Europe😮

    • @peterreeves6825
      @peterreeves6825 3 місяці тому +38

      I doubt it lives in Europe, more likely the Caribbean where the greedy tax man cannot get anywhere near it

    • @heliotropezzz333
      @heliotropezzz333 3 місяці тому +33

      @@peterreeves6825 His hedge fund moved to Ireland but recently I read that it's closed down because most of the investors abandoned it. Lol.

    • @amcc5887
      @amcc5887 3 місяці тому +9

      I believe he's money in Ireland and plenty of it,,,

    • @birdinthebush
      @birdinthebush 3 місяці тому +6

      His money is in the Caribbean. The weather there is better.

    • @heliotropezzz333
      @heliotropezzz333 3 місяці тому +10

      @@amcc5887 That hedge fund has closed down I heard but he's not short of wonga.

  • @vercoda9997
    @vercoda9997 3 місяці тому +382

    As an immigrant in the UK, the stark poverty and collapsing services I see are all *after* a decade of Tory rule. I'm baffled, Baffled, why the Electorate would keep them in power to continue utterly, utterly ballsing things up for people here, never mind the astonishing corruption and cronyism they appear to be drowning in. I'm not exactly a big fan of Labour, who seem to be coasting along on a Not Tory (Will This Do?) ticket, but Jesus Christ - the Tories are already disastrous for tens of millions of people here. Already! Get them out!

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 3 місяці тому +2

      @vercoda Immigrant from where? Let's have some details!

    • @leonbrooks2107
      @leonbrooks2107 3 місяці тому +73

      @@chatham43why does it matter?

    • @franklettering
      @franklettering 3 місяці тому +52

      ​@@chatham43
      What relevance has your query to the statement that we have degenerated as a society under the Tory party agenda.

    • @clivet3252
      @clivet3252 3 місяці тому +1

      I voted Labour last time and I'm seriously considering voting Tory. The media is pushing a lie. Things aren't as bad as they are made out to be and they would be worse under Starmer.

    • @muirislandjim453
      @muirislandjim453 3 місяці тому +61

      ​@@chatham43Spotted one of the simpletons who kept voting them in 👀

  • @markianross
    @markianross 3 місяці тому +47

    It's people like my 80 year old mother who've just always voted conservative but don't follow or even understand politics. It's just part of their identity.

    • @ozzie2612
      @ozzie2612 3 місяці тому +7

      some people over stay their welcome

    • @jamesjosephreed9239
      @jamesjosephreed9239 3 місяці тому

      And the thousands of so called labour voters who voted for Borris last election for botchedit and believed the lies about the labour party spread by James O Brien. .. 🥱

    • @billgreen576
      @billgreen576 3 місяці тому +1

      Because of that nice Mr Churchill. Like Alf Garnett.

    • @vijayafernando1
      @vijayafernando1 2 місяці тому

      Voting labour in 1997 was a big mistake. The Iraqi war,bombing Libya are more responsible for small boats than tory policies which destroy the country's pride and joy NHS (as does Labour). No democracy by voting for representatives. James O'B and other talk Chanels give the impression of democracy but are completely pointless

    • @ozzie2612
      @ozzie2612 2 місяці тому

      @@vijayafernando1 vote labour

  • @carminethewolf
    @carminethewolf 3 місяці тому +112

    A trebuchet uses a counterweight, whereas a cataput works on torsion stored in a crank.

    • @CovidiotsMusic
      @CovidiotsMusic 3 місяці тому +29

      Indeed. A trebuchet also has the advantage of greater range, power, weight and accuracy behind the stuff it slings out - which doesn't translate so well across to the Rees-Mogg example. Also, strictly speaking, catapult is the generic term for all such machines, of which a trebuchet is just one type. The traditional catapult that springs to mind when the word is used is called an Onager. Not to be confused with a somewhat similar Biblical word derived from Onan, which is sometimes used to describe Rees-Mogg.

    • @mickwall8
      @mickwall8 3 місяці тому +5

      I see what you did there......@@CovidiotsMusic

    • @ThatGuyThanus
      @ThatGuyThanus 3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you, professor

    • @markjlewis
      @markjlewis 3 місяці тому

      Check out the trebuchet that Colin Furze built (just search for him on here).

    • @nebufabu
      @nebufabu 3 місяці тому +7

      As lots of cranks were involved, Brexit is more like a catapult then...

  • @albertbrammer9263
    @albertbrammer9263 3 місяці тому +66

    Who is still voting Tory?
    Rich pensioners.

    • @Hallwine
      @Hallwine 3 місяці тому +6

      Not this one thanks

    • @TheSuperPsychoKiller
      @TheSuperPsychoKiller 3 місяці тому

      Not a lot of rich people in the UK to justify the amount of votes conservatives have.

    • @blackbearish
      @blackbearish 3 місяці тому

      yes indeed, as the voter id which is acceptable demonstrates. almost everything is for older people.

    • @kenmay1572
      @kenmay1572 3 місяці тому

      Those that would vote Tory if Micky Mouse was the candidate

    • @lynnsharpes1840
      @lynnsharpes1840 3 місяці тому +1

      I am a pensioner I am not rich by any means, and I have never voted Tory in my life.

  • @HopeT174_
    @HopeT174_ 3 місяці тому +137

    I don’t think I’ll struggle too much to think of Rees-Mogg as a “diseased carcass”… I’ve been doing that for years😅😂

    • @Aranel_Alasse
      @Aranel_Alasse 3 місяці тому +6

      really? I'm struggling to think that highly of him! 😂

    • @clivet3252
      @clivet3252 3 місяці тому

      What a horrible thing to say

    • @thomasdracup8403
      @thomasdracup8403 3 місяці тому +8

      @@clivet3252nah, that haunted Dickensian lamppost you love so much deserves to be called far far worse

    • @HopeT174_
      @HopeT174_ 3 місяці тому +1

      @@clivet3252 I’m sure Jacob will be alright🥲 🤷🏻‍♀️ and it’s just paraphrasing really🫡

    • @clivet3252
      @clivet3252 3 місяці тому

      @@HopeT174_ no, it's really nasty

  • @vinylrulesok8470
    @vinylrulesok8470 3 місяці тому +133

    What do you expect from the chair of the Tories? Honesty? Integrity? 2 principles that are anathema to them

    • @segue2ant395
      @segue2ant395 3 місяці тому +7

      Don't forget accountability! Rishi helpfully reminds us that the third pillar of Conservatism is refusing all accountability.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 3 місяці тому +1

      @vinyl.....big words..impressive!

    • @ZooHeretic
      @ZooHeretic 3 місяці тому

      @@chatham43 you're a muppet if you think those are big words 🤣🤣

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 3 місяці тому

      @zoo Big words here. I note you struggle!😊

    • @ozzie2612
      @ozzie2612 3 місяці тому

      @@chatham43 truth is your country has gone into recession .

  • @hg82met
    @hg82met 3 місяці тому +132

    The people who've looked back at the last 14 years of Tory misrule and mismanagement and said: "More of that please."

    • @lawlessheart9810
      @lawlessheart9810 3 місяці тому +10

      🎯💯

    • @bbbf09
      @bbbf09 3 місяці тому +18

      The majority over 65 apparently

    • @jujutrini8412
      @jujutrini8412 3 місяці тому +18

      They are called masochists.

    • @jonathanbowers8964
      @jonathanbowers8964 3 місяці тому

      ​@@bbbf09 That is because they are the ones who are hoarding all of the wealth in the UK (and in the English Speaking world). In the US, they are the only group who gets the luxury of universal basic income (social security) and single payer healthcare (Medicare). They make policies so their oversized houses increase in value, while Millennials and Gen Z are fighting over tiny apartments.

    • @jordank1489
      @jordank1489 3 місяці тому

      the people who haven't been touched by it yet.

  • @JK192837
    @JK192837 3 місяці тому +107

    There are some people who, if there were hellfire and brimstone falling from the skies, mushroom clouds filling the sky, rivers glowing with radioactive waste, and zombies eating people in the street, and they would still say "it would be worse under labour". You cannot reach these people, they are disconnected from reality.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 3 місяці тому +1

      @JK But thankfully you aren't and the planet is safe!😊

    • @ArtyEffem
      @ArtyEffem 3 місяці тому

      They're not disconnected from reality. they're connected with the reality of the past.

    • @JJVernig
      @JJVernig 3 місяці тому +1

      "Imagine the deficit!!"

    • @jamesjosephreed9239
      @jamesjosephreed9239 3 місяці тому

      You mean JOB who went out of his way to smear the last labour leader and party. 🤔

    • @fang_xianfu
      @fang_xianfu 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ArtyEffem which past? The 2000s? Sounds amazing compared to the reality of right now. The 1970s? Long time ago now, basically a different party and a different world.

  • @micksmithson6724
    @micksmithson6724 3 місяці тому +56

    "Labour didnt even poll 50%" said Rees Mogg. (From a party that gained a landslide victory in 2019 with 43.6% of the vote) admittedly he did get a really rather unbelievable 50,4% of the vote in 2019

    • @david-pb4bi
      @david-pb4bi 3 місяці тому +2

      His seat is in Somerset.

    • @user-lm8ou6rw9e
      @user-lm8ou6rw9e 3 місяці тому +5

      And? That means 49.6% of us still saw through him!@@david-pb4bi

    • @david-pb4bi
      @david-pb4bi 3 місяці тому +4

      @@user-lm8ou6rw9e I work in Somerset, for some strange reason none of my work colleagues admit voting for him.

    • @stevieh9860
      @stevieh9860 3 місяці тому

      No politician in living memory has been elected with 50% or more of the electorate.

    • @aloonatronrex3472
      @aloonatronrex3472 3 місяці тому +3

      What makes Labour’s/Starmer’s results so impressive the context.
      They were beaten badly in the last election.
      The Corbyn years threatened to split the partly badly with the New Labour/Momentum infighting.
      And what’s even more impressive is they are achieving these results with the press against them. New Labour’s win in the 90s was often put down to The Sun backing them and Murdoch was a king maker. Now, Labour/Starmer are getting these results with The Sun against them.
      So people either really like Labour, or really hate the Tories, if even with all the press manipulation and news agenda setting at their disposal, the Tories are still doing so badly.

  • @Jourifouler
    @Jourifouler 3 місяці тому +82

    ive met some of these people, unfortunately they are normally older people who have "always voted conservative" so they keep doing it without thinking

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 місяці тому +1

      I could show you some younger ones (then I worked out one was the same age as me)

    • @victoriastone2975
      @victoriastone2975 3 місяці тому

      @@highpath4776 I hear you 😁

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 3 місяці тому

      @jour So what do you do when voting Labour?😂😂

    • @1inchPunchBowl
      @1inchPunchBowl 3 місяці тому +1

      Unfortunately time is not on their side.

    • @1inchPunchBowl
      @1inchPunchBowl 3 місяці тому

      @@chatham43 Well done. Now go play outside little man.

  • @bobmac004
    @bobmac004 3 місяці тому +72

    A conservative acquaintance of mine would just say how much worse it would be under labour

    • @wills4794
      @wills4794 3 місяці тому +34

      That's what I hear quite frequently, it's all they've got left .

    • @Ricks_Shorts
      @Ricks_Shorts 3 місяці тому +31

      I would be tempted to answer "Well things were much better under the last Labour govt, so I don't see how you work that out"

    • @senken12
      @senken12 3 місяці тому +15

      History would disagree with that conservative acquaintance of yours

    • @richardthingsilike9562
      @richardthingsilike9562 3 місяці тому +8

      In my 59 years it never has been, just look back at history.

    • @johnyendall9377
      @johnyendall9377 3 місяці тому +1

      Your acquaintance speaks a lot of sense

  • @JupiterLune
    @JupiterLune 3 місяці тому +56

    Sadly, My Mother (85 - Telegraph reader & leave voter), and my brother in law (56, Telegraph and Spectator reader, ex-army, Charterhouse school alumni, REMAIN voter), Will still vote tory. And I cannot get a straight answer from either of them...

    • @jennyg-uf1uo
      @jennyg-uf1uo 3 місяці тому +17

      You have my sympathy.

    • @hg82met
      @hg82met 3 місяці тому +7

      It's great that two people are still supporting that morally and financially bankrupt comedy publication.

    • @JupiterLune
      @JupiterLune 3 місяці тому

      @@jennyg-uf1uo It's only a small burden. It's that she has fallen for the drip fed propaganda, over the years. Everything she says is parroted from MSM and tory client media. More than anything, I feel a sense of pity. She's still bright, lucid and educated, but utterly brainwashed.... if you see what I mean!

    • @dean9235
      @dean9235 3 місяці тому +3

      It's absolutely bizarre.

    • @BillyBobJoeSnr
      @BillyBobJoeSnr 3 місяці тому

      They're part of team blue, they've no interest in actual policies.

  • @wavydavy9816
    @wavydavy9816 3 місяці тому +34

    I worked for a very old lady a few weeks back (decorating). Big house. Lots of land. Plenty of money. Multiple pensions and (I'm guessing) many, many shares.
    She seemed ok but, on my last day, there was something political on the radio that I commented on and her honest reply was 'I think Rishi Sunak is a wonderful person and he's doing a fantastic job' 🤪🤦‍♂
    I won't be working there again (Yes, I can pick and choose my customers).

    • @michaelfoy
      @michaelfoy 3 місяці тому +3

      Sums up their Supporters......

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 3 місяці тому +1

      @wavyday. Not your best effort has to be said. A little over the top!😂

    • @wavydavy9816
      @wavydavy9816 3 місяці тому +1

      @@chatham43 Someone deletes all my best comments 🤷‍♂
      😂

    • @TheSuperPsychoKiller
      @TheSuperPsychoKiller 3 місяці тому

      So basically people who live in their own bubbles with no access into the real world vote conservatives

    • @richyjay330
      @richyjay330 2 місяці тому

      Must be on the meds 😂

  • @billedmunds2665
    @billedmunds2665 3 місяці тому +28

    Brexit has made us all a lot poorer. Just like HS2, it is too expensive. Why not Cancel Brexit!!

    • @Jim1255783
      @Jim1255783 3 місяці тому +3

      > “Why not Cancel Brexit!!”
      We can’t. We quit. We can apply to rejoin. Or, we can choose not to.
      But we can’t cancel it.

  • @markwelch3564
    @markwelch3564 3 місяці тому +128

    If I can pose a counter question - given the list of catastrophes since 2017, who still thinks Corbyn would have done worse?

    • @glennjanot8128
      @glennjanot8128 3 місяці тому +28

      At least the parliamentary Tories, since they play the Corbyn card every time they can't deal with Starmer.

    • @CaesarTjalbo
      @CaesarTjalbo 3 місяці тому +2

      He would have surely organized more parties in Downing street!

    • @COUNTDOWNTOPOWER
      @COUNTDOWNTOPOWER 3 місяці тому +25

      Not worse, just different. I don't think he'd have been massively better either though. He'd have been more honest and less disgustingly arrogant, that's for sure.

    • @glennjanot8128
      @glennjanot8128 3 місяці тому +8

      @@CaesarTjalbo And that assumption is based on your personal acquaintance with him?

    • @Carlos12330
      @Carlos12330 3 місяці тому

      The Corbin manifesto was probably the best manifesto for the majority of the country since WW2 the trouble is that since the 1980s our economy is a service economy controlled by the banks and the money markets and until we have a government that fundamentally restructures the economy away from the banks working people will always be shafted because the real power is in the hands of the wealthy.

  • @xyzzdoe3674
    @xyzzdoe3674 3 місяці тому +57

    i was wondering who the heck votes for JRM - didn't realize he represents a constituency that he flipping created!

    • @user-lm8ou6rw9e
      @user-lm8ou6rw9e 3 місяці тому +4

      I frequently wonder who votes for him - and I live in that constituency! They're turning on him though...

    • @jeremysmith8035
      @jeremysmith8035 3 місяці тому

      The poor love to be looked down up on their an awful lot of forelock tugging to master from the bighouse

    • @TheSuperPsychoKiller
      @TheSuperPsychoKiller 3 місяці тому +1

      People who love the Victorian era?

  • @shadowside8433
    @shadowside8433 3 місяці тому +28

    For those people voting Conservative - I'm really curious to know what it would take for them to not vote Tory? Its a mystery to me.

    • @nc3music920
      @nc3music920 3 місяці тому +4

      Tribalism is a strong component of human nature.

    • @jeremysmith8035
      @jeremysmith8035 3 місяці тому +1

      They stopped when made lizzy took their pensions. May tried selling their houses for something and they went insane

    • @ozzie2612
      @ozzie2612 3 місяці тому

      ok Toyah

    • @Jim90117
      @Jim90117 3 місяці тому

      Many will be tactical, there is a still a visceral hatred for Labour and Tony Blair. Many will be older too, the triple lock and tories approach to housing have been net benefits to the older generation's wealth at the expense of the young.

    • @ozzie2612
      @ozzie2612 3 місяці тому

      @@Jim90117 mad bunch then

  • @carringtonmcd
    @carringtonmcd 3 місяці тому +11

    James going full Jonathan Pie - love it !

  • @simonbas6
    @simonbas6 3 місяці тому +19

    There's a subsection of people who don't treat elections as appointing a member of a party to high office but instead see it as a popularity contest between individuals. So they're not voting Tory, they're voting for "that nice man with the blue tie who speaks proper and has a winning smile"

  • @anthonysmith8800
    @anthonysmith8800 3 місяці тому +38

    I think the issue is so many people resorting to lazy rhetoric, of "Labour would be just as bad". Saying that means they don't have to give it any thought or analysis. Head- burying in the sand.

    • @johnburrows3385
      @johnburrows3385 3 місяці тому +11

      Anyone saying Labour would be just as bed are basically Tories .

    • @thegingerbreadgod1312
      @thegingerbreadgod1312 3 місяці тому

      @@johnburrows3385no they most certainly would be as bad. They are both two sides of the same coin. You want completely open boarders? Torys and Labour will do that for you..

    • @johnburrows3385
      @johnburrows3385 3 місяці тому +3

      @thegingerbreadgod1312 you csn only 'pull up the drawbridge' if you have policies in place with education and training which means we don't have skills shortages.

    • @anthonysmith8800
      @anthonysmith8800 3 місяці тому +7

      @@thegingerbreadgod1312 politics is more than one issue. Care to give more nuance to that?

    • @blechtic
      @blechtic 3 місяці тому +1

      "Then there's no reason to not vote for Labour."

  • @jamesmoore5899
    @jamesmoore5899 3 місяці тому +27

    who votes tory? All inmates of Broadmoor if they are capable and Sunak who should be an inmate after that statement.

  • @senken12
    @senken12 3 місяці тому +13

    A real question, is how come Mogg (and other GB News Conservative members) still have the Tory whip, when they promote Reform on GB News.

  • @jaymate4556
    @jaymate4556 3 місяці тому +18

    Haunted Pencil was my favourite

  • @alanconway94
    @alanconway94 3 місяці тому +14

    Who is the wrong question. It's why. More to the point, what is it about the voters of England that so many of them are so very slow on the uptake, that they have kept them in power for so long?

    • @terryfinnie2146
      @terryfinnie2146 3 місяці тому +2

      Their education, simpletons.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 3 місяці тому

      @alan Well we can't all be middle-class and went to the right schools!😊

    • @alanconway94
      @alanconway94 3 місяці тому

      @@chatham43 They may well be contributory factors to voting Tory.

  • @valerierooney1299
    @valerierooney1299 3 місяці тому +11

    JRM should stay in his castle lock the door and throw away the key... For the UK sake, I can not listen to that person talk 🤬
    General Election now 🙏

  • @Ngamer834
    @Ngamer834 3 місяці тому +10

    If all you do is read The Fail and watch GB news you might actually believe the alternatives are worse. Seems ridiculous that anyone would still vote Tory but these people have been conditioned to believe it's better to vote Conservative. I don't understand it myself it is what it is.

  • @ColourfulAnimals
    @ColourfulAnimals 3 місяці тому +28

    "Penny farthing turned flesh" is probably the best one 😂

  • @brenglover72
    @brenglover72 3 місяці тому +10

    A haunted victorian pencil. The best description of JRM.

  • @billgreen576
    @billgreen576 3 місяці тому +4

    I know someone who says she will always vote Tory because her Dad always did. She is over 60 and her Dad died with Covid related complications. And according to her that happened because the NHS wastes too much money. On the other side I know someone, a thinker, who always voted Tory and will not in the next GE which has cost him a lot of life long friends at the golf club.

  • @kevingreen6924
    @kevingreen6924 3 місяці тому +16

    didn't jacob rees Hogg base his whole persona on Lord Snooty, but without pals.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 3 місяці тому

      @kevin You've been busy Kev..another tough day at the office!?

    • @richyjay330
      @richyjay330 2 місяці тому

      You mean J.R. Smug, or soft walter from beano?

  • @esioanniannaho5939
    @esioanniannaho5939 3 місяці тому +28

    Yep same thoughts.
    What I want to understand is Why the F do people Still vote for ToryUkip ??
    This is beyond me.
    Any ideas anyone ???

    • @user-xk2ig4tc3f
      @user-xk2ig4tc3f 3 місяці тому +9

      Brexit ghouls, paid up members of the Alf Garnet fanclub

    • @thegingerbreadgod1312
      @thegingerbreadgod1312 3 місяці тому +1

      Lol I’m voting reform

    • @esioanniannaho5939
      @esioanniannaho5939 3 місяці тому

      But Jimmy YOU have Not answered your Own Question ⁉️

    • @ozzie2612
      @ozzie2612 3 місяці тому +1

      @@thegingerbreadgod1312 thanks , that helps labour, anything to get torys out

    • @thegingerbreadgod1312
      @thegingerbreadgod1312 3 місяці тому

      @@ozzie2612 so you call me a Tory and then thank me for not voting them. The brain dead left everyone 👏🏻

  • @paulc1553
    @paulc1553 3 місяці тому +18

    JRM is Walter from the Beano. Loathsome creature.

    • @ch3rrikiss
      @ch3rrikiss 3 місяці тому +3

      WALTER! YES 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @user-qd2hl9lu3h
      @user-qd2hl9lu3h 3 місяці тому +4

      That's an insult to Walter from the Beano.

    • @welshgit
      @welshgit 3 місяці тому

      Did you know the Beano wrote a "cease and desist" letter to Jacob Rees-Mogg for infringing their intelectual property, regarding their Walter-the-softie character?
      I'm not making this up! Search for "beano cease and desist jacob rees mogg"

    • @richyjay330
      @richyjay330 2 місяці тому

      Lord Snooty or J.R. Smug.

  • @flemmingmorgan1929
    @flemmingmorgan1929 3 місяці тому +7

    Well done for calling out these fraudsters and liars

  • @cfcdougiecfc1
    @cfcdougiecfc1 3 місяці тому +11

    Welcome, james, to how its felt being a scottish voter my entire adult life.

  • @andrewjohnclose429
    @andrewjohnclose429 3 місяці тому +2

    Jacob Rees Mogg. The only man alive to have failed a Myers Briggs personality test 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @NickDusting
    @NickDusting 3 місяці тому +12

    Who votes for the Torys? I'll make a guess at the over 55's who read the daily mail (and still think it's a newspaper) pseudo Christians / catholics who managed to pay for retirement at 40 and who live in a part of the country where the houses have cars worth more than around 50k new.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 3 місяці тому +1

      @nick Think that's the middle class Labour voters Nicky old boy!😊😀

  • @cheech7900
    @cheech7900 3 місяці тому +13

    I assume, your looking for a better answer than gullible people, who are living in delusion.

  • @martinfrancis3285
    @martinfrancis3285 3 місяці тому +11

    mogg doesn't lack in intelligence, he is simply "Sinister." he is Nosferatu

  • @suewilkinson993
    @suewilkinson993 3 місяці тому +8

    Sadly on "who is voting for the conservatives" my brother and my Mam.
    Mam is 96 and bro is 73. but that, to me (72), is no excuse. Both also voted leave.

    • @michaelfoy
      @michaelfoy 3 місяці тому +3

      Poor you! I'm 70 and ALLWAYS 'Red' AS were my Mum and Dad, who would both be 100 this year.... IF alive!.....They voted for Labour in 1945 after their war service when teenagers, primarily for introduction of the NHS and other supporting policies, having grown up seeing massive poverty around them in 1920's under Tories.... They stayed true to Labour ALL their hard-working lives.....and prospered under subsequent labour Govs.....but BOTH lost their long-held-jobs under Thatcher due to Privatisation.....and the GREED that ensued. Tories NEVER change, just profit themselves and Crush ordinary working people.

    • @ItsAv3rageGamer
      @ItsAv3rageGamer 3 місяці тому

      I hope they're happy with the country they've helped to create.

  • @The_gaming_archaeologist
    @The_gaming_archaeologist 3 місяці тому +5

    My mum has said she won't be voting Tory, however, she's decided to vote for that new facist party that I forget the name of. There's so many rebirths of the same one.

  • @barbaramohammed152
    @barbaramohammed152 3 місяці тому +6

    James... you are our godsend....thank u. What else can we say 👏

  • @nigeltrigger4499
    @nigeltrigger4499 3 місяці тому +30

    Labour act as a government. The Tories just find ways to extract our Tax payer's money. It really is as simple as that!

    • @ozzie2612
      @ozzie2612 3 місяці тому +1

      and send it to Rwanda

  • @lawlessheart9810
    @lawlessheart9810 3 місяці тому +62

    How can anyone with a modicum of self awareness take anything Tory/Brexit poster boy JRM says seriously?
    He’s like a caricature of himself.

    • @Boghopper9999
      @Boghopper9999 3 місяці тому +5

      Maybe people with head trauma?

    • @ZooHeretic
      @ZooHeretic 3 місяці тому +4

      @@Boghopper9999 or people with a massive bank balance wanting to add a few more billions at our expense.

  • @bbbf09
    @bbbf09 3 місяці тому +14

    I've looked at the polling stats and it seems the majority who are over age 65 apparently. Must really love their pensions over any notion of king and country and future of the nation.

    • @michaelfoy
      @michaelfoy 3 місяці тому +3

      NOT All of Us! 70 and RED untill I'm dead!" Party card-carrying Tory despising oldie.....😊

    • @kathleenward6268
      @kathleenward6268 3 місяці тому +3

      @@michaelfoy Me too. 83, remainer, labour voter. Don't tar all old people with the same brush.

    • @bbbf09
      @bbbf09 3 місяці тому +2

      @@michaelfoy Almost snap - I'm under 65 - but not by much. Still has to be recognised that more than half of pension age still intend on voting Tory - despite last 14 years of experience. You'd think with age comes some kind of wisdom...but no.

    • @shady2322
      @shady2322 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes many don't seem to care about their kids or grand kid's future...

  • @user-sd3ik9rt6d
    @user-sd3ik9rt6d 3 місяці тому +9

    When they go low, they can always go lower.

  • @robertwilson4809
    @robertwilson4809 3 місяці тому +44

    Scotland has to get out of this madhouse asap.

    • @gabrieldsouza6541
      @gabrieldsouza6541 3 місяці тому +5

      Go on and get out, then. And stop taking funding from Westminster.

    • @stephenmurray2851
      @stephenmurray2851 3 місяці тому

      ​@@gabrieldsouza6541we don't want out. We are very happy to stay. Don't listen to these clowns. The snp are a joke.

    • @stephenmurray2851
      @stephenmurray2851 3 місяці тому

      The snp is even more corrupt

    • @weswheel4834
      @weswheel4834 3 місяці тому +2

      Not being funny, but how's that gonna help? Apart from pushing the rest of the UK right a bit (and I suspect, doing the same for Scotland), how does it help Scotland?

    • @stephenmurray2851
      @stephenmurray2851 3 місяці тому

      @@weswheel4834 it doesn't. The snp are corrupt.

  • @Bobbydyland
    @Bobbydyland 3 місяці тому +2

    My Mum would still vote for the Tories. She somehow thinks that the scenario's the Tories faced these 14 years are all external factors and that Labour would have somehow done worse. Discussions on politics end up with her crying, me feeling like a bully, and no one's opinions changed.

  • @allenmontrasio8962
    @allenmontrasio8962 3 місяці тому +15

    I believe a trebuchet relies on gravity while a catapult relies on a spring as means of storing energy.

    • @blechtic
      @blechtic 3 місяці тому

      No, trebuchet just uses mechanical advantage, it can still use a spring to power it. Catapult relies on any stored energy. Trebuchets are catapults but so are ballistas.

    • @TheShortStory
      @TheShortStory 3 місяці тому

      Catapult: Any of various military machines used for hurling missiles, such as large stones or spears, in ancient and medieval times.
      A trebuchet using counterpoise is just one type of catapult. So most of the time people say “catapult” they refer to mechanisms using torsion or tension to store energy.

  • @zoranblackie5921
    @zoranblackie5921 3 місяці тому +9

    Lots of scared people, as the current incarnation of the Tories rule based on the politics of fear and division...

  • @garyslater1243
    @garyslater1243 3 місяці тому +2

    The Honourable member for the 19th century, who assured us all that we would be better off outside the EU - and, shortly afterwards, moved his business headquarters to Dublin !

  • @Kerbal_fever
    @Kerbal_fever 3 місяці тому +1

    This ending with James just shouting 'yer mum' is really funny. Excellent clipping

  • @peterreeves6825
    @peterreeves6825 3 місяці тому +5

    To your very last question yes my Mum probably will, but she is 87 and lives in Rochdale

  • @eddieobrien1411
    @eddieobrien1411 3 місяці тому +4

    People who only care about their bottom line and less tax.The very people who become irate when they can’t get an ambulance or a doctor appointment or anything else they need from the state

  • @krispysox
    @krispysox 3 місяці тому +6

    We shouldn't be even talking in terms of political "parties", we should be questioning the interests that rule over and are served by our so-called 'government', no matter which puppets are "in".

  • @davidmcculloch8490
    @davidmcculloch8490 3 місяці тому +2

    Our son in Australia commented that Spitting Image would no longer work because all government ministers are now caricatures.

  • @goat8123
    @goat8123 3 місяці тому +21

    I prefer ‘Victorian butler ghost’ when it comes to JRM

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 3 місяці тому

      @goat brilliant work goaty!!

  • @ercieyyy
    @ercieyyy 3 місяці тому +2

    The Uk citizens will sooner or later understand that the Brexit was formed only for the Tories to be a consistency government even though the companies still export and import the goods into European countries

  • @stevesretroloft
    @stevesretroloft 3 місяці тому +8

    Who votes Tory? I refer you to Stewart Lee's reasons why people voted for Brexit.

    • @salford6
      @salford6 3 місяці тому

      EHRC report on Labour, give it a read, also Google Labour MP racism and look at the repeated examples of racism, Tories are awful but so are Labour

    • @Sc25515
      @Sc25515 3 місяці тому

      ​@@salford6but Labour aren't in power and haven't been for 14 years. So how are they just as bad?

  • @28johann1
    @28johann1 3 місяці тому +5

    I know a fair few Tory voters. The ones I know are the following 1) Those rich enough to just want the status quo 2) Those who have voted Tory all their lives because their parents did 3) Those persuaded by the media / cat 1 Tories that a Labour Govt would be a disaster for one reason or another, esp higher taxes 4) Those who believe the Tories are more socially conservative and/or anti-immigrant 5) Those tempted to vote Labour, but unconvinced about Keir Starmer. We may mock, but they are still a formidable force due to elite financial backing, and I believe a Labour landslide is wishful thinking. Underestimate them at your peril.

    • @riveness
      @riveness 3 місяці тому +1

      Easily 20% of the electorate

    • @edonslow1456
      @edonslow1456 3 місяці тому

      Some of these don't track though do they. 1) they've messed things up for the status quo by crashing the economy and destroying mortgages, and destroyed businesses and industries with Brexit 3) the Tories actually have been a disaster, in a far worse way than Labour ever were.

    • @keithratcliffe2235
      @keithratcliffe2235 3 місяці тому

      Please Sir Keir Starmer. Labour are just as fond of titles as Tories even though they pretend to abhor them. Lords Kinnock, Prescot took the £320 a day despite wanting to abolish the Lords.

  • @breamoreboy
    @breamoreboy 3 місяці тому +5

    To answer the question, it's habit. All the people I was raised with in the staunch Tory New Forest still vote Tory and will continue to do so until they reach their graves as "Labour ca't manage the economy". My Dacre Heil reading elder brother is one such example. Consider that last summer I had to tell him that brexit had imposed trade barriers between us and the EU. He though it was business as usual. Uneducated? Both of us spent five years at a grammar school.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 3 місяці тому

      @bream Middle class Grammar school boy sees the light!

  • @peterreeves6825
    @peterreeves6825 3 місяці тому +5

    I think there is still a large element of "football" loyalty in large parts of the UK, a lot of voters are also not sufficiently interested in politics to see past any head line that yanks their chain and tells them what to think. James you are right the anti-immigrant zealots should be switching to Reform but they still believe The Tories are strong on immigration.

  • @iandhr1
    @iandhr1 3 місяці тому +6

    As a Jewish American who likes to observe UK politics, I remember that Sadiq Kahn was one of the few voices in Labour who spoke out against antisemitism when Corbyn was the leader.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 3 місяці тому

      @iand We'll believe you this time!😊😊

    • @victortarus2814
      @victortarus2814 3 місяці тому

      Free Palestine

  • @51bikerboy
    @51bikerboy 3 місяці тому +2

    So much for a Eton educated person!
    In the rest of Europe he probably wouldn't have past the entrance test.
    But in the UK is different,
    You don't need the brains just the money!

  • @nickryder9669
    @nickryder9669 3 місяці тому +2

    Why oh why would any woman vote Tory ? Their retirement age has gone up bye 7 years from 60 to 67 ! During those 7 years of extra work they will pay at least one of those years entirely in tax !

    • @dyslexicfomo7618
      @dyslexicfomo7618 2 місяці тому

      This WASPI never has and never will vote Tory!

  • @hg82met
    @hg82met 3 місяці тому +5

    JRM - the caricature of a caricature 18th century nobleman.

  • @toogyman
    @toogyman 3 місяці тому +3

    Jacob ‘Laurel’ is a bit lost without his pal Boris ‘Hardy’
    Poor lad , just needs to head off home to 1959 and hide for a bit again

  • @user-kh9sq2wz5n
    @user-kh9sq2wz5n 3 місяці тому +5

    So Lets start seeing some ACTUAL labour polices backed by data gained by official sources. Lets see these policies interpreted to into prepared legislative documents. NOT soft lighting, no pledges, priorities and promises, or podium soundbites. Stammers front beach are servicing MPS- lets see what they are made of.

  • @matthewlee6836
    @matthewlee6836 3 місяці тому +3

    The density of Rees-Mogg's remarks have their own gravitational field. They draw people in to an extraordinary degree. As many others have pointed out: give him a Geordie, Brummie or West Country accent and he'd be laughed out of any chance of political power or social advancement. This of course is no disrespect to people with pronounced regional accents but a damning indictment of the prejudice in favour of those with RP patrician tones. It is genuinely baffling to me that a significant percentage of my fellow countrymen can only hear the conditioned, tutored self-confidence in the sound of the words and not the actual words themselves.

  • @dorino9057
    @dorino9057 3 місяці тому +4

    Tories out.

  • @pallascat1743
    @pallascat1743 3 місяці тому +3

    The people who enjoy the Torie party's cruelty towards minority groups will still vote Tory.

    • @salford6
      @salford6 3 місяці тому

      Don’t forget about the EHRC report on Labour and the repeated outbursts of racism by Labour MP’s, Tories are bad but stop being brainwashed that Labour are any better, trust your eyes and ears and not what people tell you to think ffs

  • @keithd26
    @keithd26 3 місяці тому +1

    My nieces and nephew can confirm that their mad uncle Keith definately won't an never has voted for the Tories or Brexit.
    Mad uncle Keith also voted for AV when it was obvious that it was better than FPTP.

  • @bradcobb3418
    @bradcobb3418 3 місяці тому +2

    Loving your analogy of the trebuchet launching showers of sh!te into the midst of political discourse 😂

  • @JuliePayne
    @JuliePayne 3 місяці тому +12

    JRM - steampunk piffle-blower

  • @michaelmccarthy9411
    @michaelmccarthy9411 3 місяці тому +3

    Lord Snooty was a lot smarter than Jacob Rees Mogg!

  • @The19610211
    @The19610211 3 місяці тому +1

    Voldemogg! He that shall not be shamed!

  • @Leszek.Rzepecki
    @Leszek.Rzepecki 3 місяці тому +2

    I like: "the gentleman for the 18th century."

  • @TheInfamousAlpha
    @TheInfamousAlpha 3 місяці тому +3

    Muppets that's who!

  • @radicalbyte
    @radicalbyte 3 місяці тому +3

    A trebuchet uses a counter weight (and basic mechanics) to launch the projectile. A catapult uses the elastic energy in the shaft to do the same. AFAIK the former is considerably more powerful thatn the latter.

  • @chriswright3179
    @chriswright3179 3 місяці тому +1

    James, i have a very old friend (just short of sixty years). His elder brother, who he looked up to in his youth, and sister-in-law are members of the Tory party. I keep egging him on to ask them what, in hindsight, they think of May/Johnson/Truss/Sunak but he tells me it would only make them angry. I am mot quite sure who/what they would be angry with. I think it is more likely that they would be angry with my friend and me than with either May/Johnson etc or the people who voted them in. The answer to your question is almost certainly: "They did". And their anger is directed at anyone who presumes to question their right to elect anyone they please to run the country or to question that all is for the best in the best of all possible worlds. Sad.

  • @chrisfox3161
    @chrisfox3161 3 місяці тому +1

    Not me, lad. Not me.

  • @AHarker100
    @AHarker100 3 місяці тому +3

    He's missing a soul.

  • @colofsco1
    @colofsco1 3 місяці тому +3

    My friend said JRM should become PM, i laughed so much i was actually crying. With tears streaming down my face, i asked, who would vote for him?
    Please note my mate and i, had drunken 6 pints each.

    • @jujutrini8412
      @jujutrini8412 3 місяці тому

      Does he also think all posh people are clever?

    • @Peter-Ac
      @Peter-Ac 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jujutrini8412 I am reminded of an old-Latin phrase which Reese Mogg would appreciate. I can't actually remember the Latin, but the interpretation was "posh voice does not mean that you are not thick as mince"

    • @jujutrini8412
      @jujutrini8412 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Peter-Ac 😂😂😂There’s another - There’s nothing so intolerable as a fortunate fool. 😂

    • @Nickelodeon81
      @Nickelodeon81 3 місяці тому

      of turpentine?

    • @Funbundle44
      @Funbundle44 3 місяці тому +1

      About as bad as the woman (I think) who said she thought Anne Widdecombe would be great as PM. Can you imagine JRM as PM and Widdy as Deputy PM? Gives me the shudders even to think about it!

  • @user-mq7mr9qv6l
    @user-mq7mr9qv6l 3 місяці тому

    My partners grandson. A 21 year old, says if someone is called a Tory, it means they are not very nice people at his University . There is hope in our younger generation.

  • @kevinmilner7479
    @kevinmilner7479 3 місяці тому +3

    Rees Mog a mad cow 😂

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 3 місяці тому

      @kevin Using shorter words was a wise move kev!😊

  • @caolruadh1
    @caolruadh1 3 місяці тому +3

    Meanwhile up in Scotland we look at Westminster in dismay acknowledging that we will always end up with the Government England wants whether we like it or not. When was the last time Scotland voted for a Tory Government?

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 3 місяці тому

      @caol Meanwhile outside Scotland nobody cares!😊

    • @caolruadh1
      @caolruadh1 3 місяці тому +3

      @@chatham43 And therein lies the problem with this union.

    • @cooperdood
      @cooperdood 3 місяці тому

      Well said

  • @genesis1765
    @genesis1765 3 місяці тому +1

    Funny how Mogg was actually at the count for GB news and not for the party says a lot.

  • @user-gt2hr8yk4x
    @user-gt2hr8yk4x 3 місяці тому +2

    And all the while Sunak's in the top job. James, why JRM?

  • @eightiesmusic1984
    @eightiesmusic1984 3 місяці тому +9

    About 12 million people are still voting for the Tories. They regularly receive this number of votes in elections. The rest voting for Labour are mostly red Tories. It is going to be a shock to a lot of people that Starmer will prove to be a disastrous Prime Minister if Labour win the election. The realisation that never ending Thatcherism is not the answer to Britain's problems has still not happened forty five years after the nightmare began. The Starmer project is devoid of solutions.

    • @robertfmorton
      @robertfmorton 3 місяці тому

      I really do admire JOB'S searing critical analysis of brexit and the tories, but there does seem to be a blind spot when it comes to Starmer's 'New' Labour Party. People think that because JOB is an excellent debunker of tory/ brexiters, then he must be a socialist. Not true.

  • @LukVik
    @LukVik 3 місяці тому +3

    If you think 🤔 the reason your wife left you is immigration, then vote 🗳 Reform UK 🇬🇧 😂😂😂😂!!!!

  • @arthurdixon5890
    @arthurdixon5890 3 місяці тому +1

    Those who are fearful of Labour.

  • @AllnWlkr6029
    @AllnWlkr6029 3 місяці тому +1

    My dad and sister probably, and the latter only because the former tells her to, think she's 50 this year too, lol

  • @tenniskinsella7768
    @tenniskinsella7768 3 місяці тому +3

    Me been tory all my voting age i woulnt vote labour in a month of sundays

    • @weswheel4834
      @weswheel4834 3 місяці тому +2

      Then please sit back and bask in the wonder that our country has become. Well done, you helped with that. :S

    • @hg82met
      @hg82met 3 місяці тому +1

      I'm surprised you have time to comment what with all the Brexit benefits you're currently enjoying.

    • @cujimmi
      @cujimmi 3 місяці тому

      ​@@hg82metI'm surprised everyone seems to have forgotten..the majority of the conservative government campaigned to remain

  • @MrMillez
    @MrMillez 3 місяці тому +3

    James on a Brexit moan again🥱. He has made a very average career out of the so far play mate.

  • @raypickles537
    @raypickles537 3 місяці тому +1

    Who... People KEEPING UP APPEARANCES, like Mrs Bucket, who think they are tories.

  • @williambriggs79
    @williambriggs79 3 місяці тому +2

    Well, I’d say the answer is : large numbers of voters in rural seats , a group who are voting for their local Tory MP more than the Tory Party ( David Davis, Mogg himself , etc), older voters who don’t want to change parties, young voters who are right wing but don’t want to vote for more extreme parties . A coalition of those and few others pretty much

  • @christophersmith8990
    @christophersmith8990 3 місяці тому +4

    James should vote for the Tories since he loves open borders
    PS. Are you going to hide my comment again?

    • @markmoran916
      @markmoran916 3 місяці тому +16

      And of course what with you being a well educated and informed individual, you understand brexshit has made the problem worse

    • @williamelewis464
      @williamelewis464 3 місяці тому +16

      LBC doesn't hide comments you typically get reported by other users, and then it gets flagged kinda like I see this one going on the same path as, my real question is why are you so whiny?

    • @1erkyrob2
      @1erkyrob2 3 місяці тому +9

      You should go and hide.

    • @goat8123
      @goat8123 3 місяці тому +6

      ❄️

    • @teztezza2202
      @teztezza2202 3 місяці тому +6

      Please go away.