This is a great side by side comparison video. The Trakker RS 150 just looks a better made, better quality, better fabric used product than the Fox. Having them side by side makes it clearly visible the Trakker is in my opinion ( of course everyone else's preferences may differ to mine) a much better made product visually. The touch of the fabric may reveal otherwise. I have a tempest V2 with a Cyprinus skullcap still in brilliant condition and I bought it used from a guy who bought it used. It isn't a Titan which I have owned three of, the viper was brilliant, and with the extreme canopy the best shelter ever made without vents. Used in hurricane winds simply indestructible bivvy. Really helpful video, appreciate you making it and showing us.
Yeah you do same as me mate I dont clip main ground in, when i pack away put ground sheet in it's little bag and through it in nice that there oversized bags
If i had to pick between these two as a full system I’d probably get the Trakker, though XD vs the 150 would be a more fair comparison imo. But the newest RS is like 1K. Add a skullcap and you’re looking at almost 1200. Atm XD with vapour peak is below 800. Thats one pretty huge price difference. In the end i think someone would be one happy camper (giggle) with either one of these great bivvies.
I recommend the SPYDER bivvies.Had a 2.5man for about 10yrs, came with groundsheet/wrap/porch etc £250 and never had a problem. Bought a 1man last year aswell. They also do a massive 4man. And regular sales/offers on them
Thanks for doing this video, I commented on another one of you're vids asking what you preferred as I currently have the fox but was contemplating the rs150 , I think I prefer the fox after watching this video 👍
Trakker really do make good bivvies but, they are overpriced and once they bring out the "new one" it's impossible to get spares for your "old one" eg. I've had my tempest advanced 150 for 3 1/2 yrs and I can no longer get spare/ replacement poles for it. In stark contrast, earlier this year I managed to get a replacement pole direct from fox for my little royal classic bivvy that fox stopped making about 8-9 yrs ago Considering the prices that bivvies command these days it's an important part in the decision process that many overlook, yes it's designed to last years but how long will I be able to get spares just in case of accidents which can and do happen at any time. Good video, thanks 👍
@@tommie184 yeah I did too mate but had to take off the heavy ground sheet when packed down cos was a lot of tension on bars when folded them but all il do is lay ground sheet down and put bivvy over the top of it Do you roll yours up to the boss when packing down
I have the Trakker (not RS prev version) 100 and the Fox Frontier XD+ with Social cap inner dome etc One thing I can say is XD as its the extra headroom one is great for longer stays and the storm poles are much stronger than the Trakker ones (yep bent them just a tad) Typical I bought the Trakker and wanted to get the social cap but none in stock only a few months before they announced the new bivvy - and needed one quick as old Bivvy had given up with no 150's in stock What I wanted was the 150 + social but to be fair now i have the 100 with vapour peek for short stays or smaller swims and the XD for longer stays or when I go with son and his mates as i do all the cooking etc so all in all worked out well. Trakker wise i would have had to get the 200 + social cap to be close to the Frontier size wise
Small sub note I just went to Spa for the F1 Thursday to Monday with mate and rather than a normal tent took the Frontier and with the social cap etc fitted 2 Nash indulgence 6 leg systems all our clobber 2 chairs which as it rained a lot mainly got used inside with still plenty of room
@ is this because of the door is zipped up there’s to much tension mate ? Asking because I just got one but not used it yet , I had the x and always packed down with with the door zipped up and had no problems but the inner may cause probs ?
I used mine 1st time at week end , had to take of the ground sheet when taking it down couldn’t pack it down with it attached did you have same problem mate ?
@@DaveShortland-h6x yes mate you do have to take out the ground sheet , it’s only the front panel that you can leave on but make shore the door is unzipped when you pack down.
@ yes was a ball ale mate to be fair but took off the groundsheet and left inner in but will just lay ground sheet down and put bivvy on top of if , great bivvy must admit 👌
To be honest it changes with me every time I’m out in one , I will do a top 3 at some point I really like my compact 1 man Ridgemonkey, tho I don’t like how heavy it is.
The XD comes with storm poles ,im surprised they dont supply with that one . The fox i better hands down . Cant beat it as its got the inner dome ,which i dint have to use and then you fit the other ground sheet ,which it comes with .hands down better.
@carpfishingthings-ny9go I also have the porch ,in which I have fitted my log burner!! I've been using that for 2 years now in the XD. It works great in there ,as I was using my log burner in my previous setup before that . Think I'm one of the first guys doing it , lol . Guys when I'm fishing, ask me all the time. Is that a log burner in your porch? lol . Think it's catching on . Well, good luck with your vids ,they are very enjoyable to watch. Thank you .
Hi mate, could you fit 2 bedchairs pushed up tight to eachother side by side in the trakker 150? Looking for a bivvy so i can take the wife on occasion, cheers.
@@Carl-s7j sorry mate i don’t remember , but I think it was a no or was very tight, if I’m thinking of taking some one I would always go for a two man Bivvy. So maybe look at the 200
This is a great side by side comparison video. The Trakker RS 150 just looks a better made, better quality, better fabric used product than the Fox. Having them side by side makes it clearly visible the Trakker is in my opinion ( of course everyone else's preferences may differ to mine) a much better made product visually. The touch of the fabric may reveal otherwise. I have a tempest V2 with a Cyprinus skullcap still in brilliant condition and I bought it used from a guy who bought it used. It isn't a Titan which I have owned three of, the viper was brilliant, and with the extreme canopy the best shelter ever made without vents. Used in hurricane winds simply indestructible bivvy.
Really helpful video, appreciate you making it and showing us.
Yeah you do same as me mate I dont clip main ground in, when i pack away put ground sheet in it's little bag and through it in nice that there oversized bags
If i had to pick between these two as a full system I’d probably get the Trakker, though XD vs the 150 would be a more fair comparison imo. But the newest RS is like 1K. Add a skullcap and you’re looking at almost 1200. Atm XD with vapour peak is below 800. Thats one pretty huge price difference. In the end i think someone would be one happy camper (giggle) with either one of these great bivvies.
I recommend the SPYDER bivvies.Had a 2.5man for about 10yrs, came with groundsheet/wrap/porch etc £250 and never had a problem. Bought a 1man last year aswell. They also do a massive 4man. And regular sales/offers on them
Lovely pond mate! Ever fancy doing a vid showing it off and talking through how it was built?
Thanks for doing this video, I commented on another one of you're vids asking what you preferred as I currently have the fox but was contemplating the rs150 , I think I prefer the fox after watching this video 👍
I’ve just brought the rs150, and tbh, it’s an amazing bit of kit. Really thick fabric. It’s quality.
Trakker really do make good bivvies but, they are overpriced and once they bring out the "new one" it's impossible to get spares for your "old one" eg. I've had my tempest advanced 150 for 3 1/2 yrs and I can no longer get spare/ replacement poles for it. In stark contrast, earlier this year I managed to get a replacement pole direct from fox for my little royal classic bivvy that fox stopped making about 8-9 yrs ago Considering the prices that bivvies command these days it's an important part in the decision process that many overlook, yes it's designed to last years but how long will I be able to get spares just in case of accidents which can and do happen at any time.
Good video, thanks 👍
Good review mate , do you find it easy to pack down the frontier with the inner dome in or take it out and is it easy to get into the bag mate ?
Ps .. I’m going to get the camo vapour for the frontier x+ I reckon will look ace
ive got the x plus and i cant fault it, like you ive tried loads of bivvys and ive stuck with this one, ive yet to put my extension, but great video
@@tommie184 hi mate do you pack it down with door zipped up or down mate ?
@@DaveShortland-h6x sorry didn't see message I have left them open easier when putting away and up never had problem mate
@@tommie184 yeah I did too mate but had to take off the heavy ground sheet when packed down cos was a lot of tension on bars when folded them but all il do is lay ground sheet down and put bivvy over the top of it
Do you roll yours up to the boss when packing down
I have the Trakker (not RS prev version) 100 and the Fox Frontier XD+ with Social cap inner dome etc
One thing I can say is XD as its the extra headroom one is great for longer stays and the storm poles are much stronger than the Trakker ones (yep bent them just a tad)
Typical I bought the Trakker and wanted to get the social cap but none in stock only a few months before they announced the new bivvy - and needed one quick as old Bivvy had given up with no 150's in stock
What I wanted was the 150 + social but to be fair now i have the 100 with vapour peek for short stays or smaller swims and the XD for longer stays or when I go with son and his mates as i do all the cooking etc so all in all worked out well.
Trakker wise i would have had to get the 200 + social cap to be close to the Frontier size wise
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Small sub note I just went to Spa for the F1 Thursday to Monday with mate and rather than a normal tent took the Frontier and with the social cap etc fitted 2 Nash indulgence 6 leg systems all our clobber 2 chairs which as it rained a lot mainly got used inside with still plenty of room
Did you say got to pack down frontier with door open mate ? Would it make a difference if the door was zipped up when packed down ? ?
Would it make a difference if pack it down with the door zipped up mate ? Have you done it both unzipped and zipped and noticed a difference ?
@DaveShortland-h6x I wouldn’t pack it down with the door zipped up mate just to be safe, I always unzip mine but I do leave it on when packed away.
@ is this because of the door is zipped up there’s to much tension mate ? Asking because I just got one but not used it yet , I had the x and always packed down with with the door zipped up and had no problems but the inner may cause probs ?
@ yes I think so mate
I used mine 1st time at week end , had to take of the ground sheet when taking it down couldn’t pack it down with it attached did you have same problem mate ?
@@DaveShortland-h6x yes mate you do have to take out the ground sheet , it’s only the front panel that you can leave on but make shore the door is unzipped when you pack down.
@ yes was a ball ale mate to be fair but took off the groundsheet and left inner in but will just lay ground sheet down and put bivvy on top of if , great bivvy must admit 👌
I would never go back to the frontier mine fell to bits within weeks, especially the poles falling out of the boss, back to a pioneer for me
Hi mate any chance of seeing the rs 100 and a with the social cap?
Sorry mate don’t have the rs100
@carp fishing things what is your overall favourite bivvy for height, footprint ,material ,set up and pack down?
To be honest it changes with me every time I’m out in one , I will do a top 3 at some point I really like my compact 1 man Ridgemonkey, tho I don’t like how heavy it is.
I'd have the Yrakker by Far, had the Tempest 200 for me n lad...awesome kit....but tell you what, you don't half have some kit 👍👍🎣🎣
I went for the Fox XD liked it because it has a straight back so the bed is parallel and no wasted space, didn’t want a rounded rear to the bivvy
The XD comes with storm poles ,im surprised they dont supply with that one . The fox i better hands down . Cant beat it as its got the inner dome ,which i dint have to use and then you fit the other ground sheet ,which it comes with .hands down better.
What they both weigh ?
@@andrewtate8303 the fox is 14kg and the Trakker is 16kg
Not exactly light then 🙄.with.bad legs am not gunna be buying them @@carpfishingthings-ny9go
Lost me when you had a mallet of the floor😂
For putting the pegs into the rock hard ground
Use your foot@@carpfishingthings-ny9go
Ps .the XD is taller .
@@mb-xl5jg yes it’s in one of my other videos
@carpfishingthings-ny9go I also have the porch ,in which I have fitted my log burner!! I've been using that for 2 years now in the XD. It works great in there ,as I was using my log burner in my previous setup before that . Think I'm one of the first guys doing it , lol . Guys
when I'm fishing, ask me all the time. Is that a log burner in your porch? lol . Think it's catching on . Well, good luck with your vids ,they are very enjoyable to watch. Thank you .
I wasted too much time when I set the storm poles to close the door too much headache for trakker Rs 150
Hi mate, could you fit 2 bedchairs pushed up tight to eachother side by side in the trakker 150? Looking for a bivvy so i can take the wife on occasion, cheers.
@@Carl-s7j sorry mate i don’t remember , but I think it was a no or was very tight, if I’m thinking of taking some one I would always go for a two man Bivvy. So maybe look at the 200
Thanks a lot mate I will do