I suggest payroll department takes a class along with school board members on how to increase our pay to superintendent level since we’re the ones who do the hardest work!
I live near Dallas ISD and I doubt most of those parents would attend a parenting class...but it is a nice way for the school to shrug and say "Well we gave you every opportunity." Before sending a troubled child to an alternative school.
My two cents: If your student has x number of infractions (detailed in the parent hand which parents must sign before their child is allowed in the building) by the end of 1st semester, they will be put in remote learning. If they wish to return to school, they must do x, y and z successfully for a minimum of 5 weeks (1/2 a semester). If they return but recommit the following infractions (list them), they will spend the remainder of the school year in remote learning. This should start in 5th or 6th grade. PARENT ACCOUNTABILITY.
That’s a better idea! Why does admin come up with these outrageous ideas that will never work. Ask any teacher, and they’ll come up with a common sense approach with no extra steps involved.
@@kathyshe2529 Bless you. T what I shared is what online schools are currently doing. Public schools are so afraid of lawsuits that they’re doing as little as they think possible in order to appease parents. It’s heartbreaking to be a part of it. Fingers crossed-I have a callback interview with a nonprofit on 7/12. If they hire me I can end my teaching career and still be helpful in a nonprofit.
The sad truth that a lot of these "experts" don't want to accept is that for a lot of kids sent to Alternative, they've either been given MULTIPLE lesser punishments that have had no effect, or they have committed an illegal act that for which Alternative placement is the MILDER punishment option. In many of these cases, we just need these kids separated from the other kids who ARE trying to get an education (which they also have a right to), because all they do is disrupt and in some cases ENDANGER those kids.
I had a parent come and sit in class to help motivate their student to do better. She was WORSE than her kid. I couldn't get a word in edgewise while she hugged all the kids she knew asked them about their relatives and told them all she was doing just fine even though she don't do no math at all.....smh. That child wasn't acting out they had no clue they were being raised with socially discouraged behaviors as their family norms. I changed my approach with the kid and invested in explaining they got to have spending money energy and making money energy and foster parent that with with a different set of values then what they got at home.
I’m not a teacher, but this resonates. I used to think, “What’s wrong with these kids today?” Then I became a manager for their working parents, and I said, “Never mind. Unfortunately, this makes perfect sense why your child is always in the principals’s office.” 🥺
Seriously though, if alternative schools didn't work, what makes them think that community service will? Why don't they just say they're documenting all those that will soon be wards of the "State of Corrections" so that the process will be a smoother transition🤔😊
This trying to keep kids out of alternative school just keeps problems in the classroom lowering scores for the whole class. Send them bad boys ( and girls) to alternative school and make parents attend classes too before they can return to school.
So the parents take the class, pay about as much attention as the kids do, and then... what? What happens when the students go back to doing the same old stuff that got them in trouble in the first place? Do they take another class? Shoot, you were lucky to get them there once. 😂😂😂
More than likely the student's behavior is a carbon copy of the parent(s) so that will already defeat the purpose. Having parents sit in a class for 3 hours is not an effective way to change the child's behavior especially since it has been their norm for years. This can't be fixed overnight, it's a process. Children are smart! After the class has been completed, they will go back to business as usual because there's really no accountability and consequence. Sadly, you can't make parents be parents. In some cases, they are afraid of their own children.
"If it acts like a duck, and quack like a duck, it ain't no German shepherd" ... "again, and again, and again, and again...." As a teacher, I thank you Sir!!!!
Another thing that’s not going to work because everyone is going to come up with an excuse not to do their part. 🙄 How many of you have had parents say, “I’m working. Aren’t you suppose to be able to handle your class!?” 🤨 They are NOT going to do parenting classes.
True, that's been said to me and also, "You teachers spend more hours with my kid then I do, therefore you have more responsibility over him." Even if the parents that may be willing to take a class, probably don't have time. Too busy working 2 jobs because of high rent and rising food prices or taking care of their other kids.
There was an alternative school when I was in school in the 70s, Kenwood. They called it Kenweed because all the bad kids went there and were usually potheads.
I don’t understand why the parent can’t come to actual class and sit with their kids every day and discipline them themselves. If the parent can’t/ won’t then to alternative school you go. Or public school at home. Every state has that k-12 don’t they?
If the parents actually disciplined them themselves, they wouldn’t come to school and act the fool. Having a parent in the classroom distracts all the other children. The parent is constantly wanting to talk to the children and the teacher instead of observing their child. It’s counterproductive!
You can only preach to those willing to hear and accept the message. To many people walk around Blind, Deaf, & Mute on purpose just to complain that no one has ever tried to help them.🤨
This isn't going to make more work for the teachers and the purpose of the Alternative school is to give them the opportunity to correct their behavior and other issues. Nobody is concerned about the students who come to school and do the right thing. #SMH😮
They’re not going to alternative school for getting physical with teachers statistically. Like at all. Agreeing with the consequences for punishable behavior and answering phone calls isn’t going to keep them out of there either. This is really quite silly all the way around.
None of that stuff had ever worked…. The only thing that will work for these kids is prayer. This generation has lost what it means to have God in your life. Everyone leaning to their own understanding…
Nah, yall are wrong for putting this all on the parents. These comments are full of assumptions too. There are parents who have “bad” kids and try to advocate for them, not to get away with stuff but to get the help they need. Parents would ask for years and the schools would ignore them then the parents would burn out and because the schools don’t care about helping the kids like they claim they do. Schools also stopped holding students accountable for their actions. I remember there used to be Saturday school, detention, in school suspension and home suspension for kids who misbehaved but now schools are more worried about a child’s feelings than their education. There are kids that come from good homes with good parents but act out because they are INFLUENCED by other kids and adults because there is a higher priority of being liked than being smart. Reverse that No Child Left Behind crap and start holding kids accountable for their actions and they will start getting their act together. The promise of having to repeat a grade will set them straight because no one wants to be “that kid”.
💜💜💜 “Everybody got an idea, but none of y’all got a clue.” Truer words have never been spoken. 👏🏽💜💜💜💜
A whole Word!🙌🏾
@@tahjjj1488 💜🙌🏽 Amens Amens!!!
Preach!!
@@stephanieharbin7989 💜🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
The school the bad children should be sent to is homeschool. Let their parents be their teacher. The parents will not want that.
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This. Bet something changes
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Amen!! You read my mind on this one!
I totally agree!!👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I suggest payroll department takes a class along with school board members on how to increase our pay to superintendent level since we’re the ones who do the hardest work!
Why is it Arc😊hitects, Drs.Dr's., and Engineers get paid more than teachers and IA'S?🤔🤔🤔
ask the school board and state superintendents
What you said! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
"If it look like a Duck and quack like a Duck, it ain't no German Shepherd" 😂😂😂
“Says a grownup who has never been kicked or punched by a student.” FACTS
Exactly😂😂😂
I don't want a kid who is fighting adults, bringing guns and drugs to school still with my child just because the parent(s) took a class!🤨
In this case, some kids and parents can benefit from parental education and change of environment. But some other I found out you can’t help them…
That’s the truth. “ Everybody got an idea but ain’t got a clue” as a teacher, I know that would never work.
The parenting classes need to start in Lamaze classes.
"I can't wait to see how this ain't gone work" 😂😂😂
I live near Dallas ISD and I doubt most of those parents would attend a parenting class...but it is a nice way for the school to shrug and say "Well we gave you every opportunity." Before sending a troubled child to an alternative school.
“If it quack like a duck, look like a duck, it ain’t no German Shepherd”……that part 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣
"Everybody got an idea but ain't none of y'all got a clue" 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Say it again for the admin in the back!!! 😱 💯 Facts
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"I know some of'em already service the community, know what I'm talkin bout"🤦🏽♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dallas ISD just had a board meeting about this yesterday…. And it was BRUTAL
Do tell!!!
My two cents: If your student has x number of infractions (detailed in the parent hand which parents must sign before their child is allowed in the building) by the end of 1st semester, they will be put in remote learning. If they wish to return to school, they must do x, y and z successfully for a minimum of 5 weeks (1/2 a semester). If they return but recommit the following infractions (list them), they will spend the remainder of the school year in remote learning. This should start in 5th or 6th grade. PARENT ACCOUNTABILITY.
That’s a better idea! Why does admin come up with these outrageous ideas that will never work. Ask any teacher, and they’ll come up with a common sense approach with no extra steps involved.
@@kathyshe2529 Bless you. T what I shared is what online schools are currently doing. Public schools are so afraid of lawsuits that they’re doing as little as they think possible in order to appease parents. It’s heartbreaking to be a part of it. Fingers crossed-I have a callback interview with a nonprofit on 7/12. If they hire me I can end my teaching career and still be helpful in a nonprofit.
Deny deny deny... that's what parents do best.
So sad but so true!
The sad truth that a lot of these "experts" don't want to accept is that for a lot of kids sent to Alternative, they've either been given MULTIPLE lesser punishments that have had no effect, or they have committed an illegal act that for which Alternative placement is the MILDER punishment option. In many of these cases, we just need these kids separated from the other kids who ARE trying to get an education (which they also have a right to), because all they do is disrupt and in some cases ENDANGER those kids.
So the parent class is basically a conference that we already have scheduled three times a year.
😂 Baby, I need to hurry up and retire. I work in DISD and I'm not ready, help us Lord.
I had a parent come and sit in class to help motivate their student to do better. She was WORSE than her kid. I couldn't get a word in edgewise while she hugged all the kids she knew asked them about their relatives and told them all she was doing just fine even though she don't do no math at all.....smh. That child wasn't acting out they had no clue they were being raised with socially discouraged behaviors as their family norms. I changed my approach with the kid and invested in explaining they got to have spending money energy and making money energy and foster parent that with with a different set of values then what they got at home.
I’m not a teacher, but this resonates. I used to think, “What’s wrong with these kids today?” Then I became a manager for their working parents, and I said, “Never mind. Unfortunately, this makes perfect sense why your child is always in the principals’s office.” 🥺
Seriously though, if alternative schools didn't work, what makes them think that community service will? Why don't they just say they're documenting all those that will soon be wards of the "State of Corrections" so that the process will be a smoother transition🤔😊
This trying to keep kids out of alternative school just keeps problems in the classroom lowering scores for the whole class. Send them bad boys ( and girls) to alternative school and make parents attend classes too before they can return to school.
Amen. Yes. Kids cannot return before parents attend the class.
So the parents take the class, pay about as much attention as the kids do, and then... what? What happens when the students go back to doing the same old stuff that got them in trouble in the first place? Do they take another class? Shoot, you were lucky to get them there once. 😂😂😂
Yes, they do.
@jenniferhill9924 They take another class? Because that makes very little sense to me. I mean, if the first one wasn't helpful, then... 🤷♀️
Stupid idea that will fail spectacularly and predictably for many reasons
“They also got the concept that nothing is going to happen to them so they do it again again and again.” That was the best line!!!! So true…🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
More than likely the student's behavior is a carbon copy of the parent(s) so that will already defeat the purpose. Having parents sit in a class for 3 hours is not an effective way to change the child's behavior especially since it has been their norm for years. This can't be fixed overnight, it's a process. Children are smart! After the class has been completed, they will go back to business as usual because there's really no accountability and consequence. Sadly, you can't make parents be parents. In some cases, they are afraid of their own children.
"If it acts like a duck, and quack like a duck, it ain't no German shepherd" ... "again, and again, and again, and again...."
As a teacher, I thank you Sir!!!!
Another thing that’s not going to work because everyone is going to come up with an excuse not to do their part. 🙄 How many of you have had parents say, “I’m working. Aren’t you suppose to be able to handle your class!?” 🤨 They are NOT going to do parenting classes.
True, that's been said to me and also, "You teachers spend more hours with my kid then I do, therefore you have more responsibility over him." Even if the parents that may be willing to take a class, probably don't have time. Too busy working 2 jobs because of high rent and rising food prices or taking care of their other kids.
@@LuckyJujube AMEN
Every word out of his mouth is true!
You just ❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💯‼️ May the light of GOD continue to shine on you ❤
Things always look good on paper or folks who were NEVER IN THE CLASSROOM come up with these crazy behind ideas. SMH
There was an alternative school when I was in school in the 70s, Kenwood. They called it Kenweed because all the bad kids went there and were usually potheads.
“I can’t wait to see how this isn’t going to work!” Real talk… every word he said
Why don’t you have the students take the parenting classes before they have the kid👨🍼👩🍼🤨
You right Eddie. They do what they want to do!😡
This is perfect. Let the parents see how their angels behave at school : )
I don’t understand why the parent can’t come to actual class and sit with their kids every day and discipline them themselves. If the parent can’t/ won’t then to alternative school you go. Or public school at home. Every state has that k-12 don’t they?
If the parents actually disciplined them themselves, they wouldn’t come to school and act the fool. Having a parent in the classroom distracts all the other children. The parent is constantly wanting to talk to the children and the teacher instead of observing their child. It’s counterproductive!
You nailed it: everybody has an idea but nobody has a clue. Because they NEVER ask teachers what they should do.
You can only preach to those willing to hear and accept the message. To many people walk around Blind, Deaf, & Mute on purpose just to complain that no one has ever tried to help them.🤨
Hahahaha child this system is CRACKING 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
All I can say is WOW!
"I can't wait to see how this ain't gonna work"
Can we switch it to them requiring parenting classes at the start of children entering them in school (Pre-K through 1st grade)?
Yassss, well said as always 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Hilarious ex teacher on deck 😅😅😅😅 the accuracy
This isn't going to make more work for the teachers and the purpose of the Alternative school is to give them the opportunity to correct their behavior and other issues. Nobody is concerned about the students who come to school and do the right thing. #SMH😮
I do give them credit for trying! IDK 🤷♀️ 🤷♀️ 🤷♂️ 🤷♂️
Keeping It Real Brother Natural Fact 💯 😂
Consequences? Oh no, we can’t have that.
How this ain't go work 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Eddieb for president!!!!!
Seriously?!😦
These ideas
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Most parents won’t attend so it will not work.
You Nervous? 😂😂😂😂😂
They’re not going to alternative school for getting physical with teachers statistically. Like at all. Agreeing with the consequences for punishable behavior and answering phone calls isn’t going to keep them out of there either. This is really quite silly all the way around.
So they just don’t work anymore? They go and sit with their child at school?
I thought they were going to make the parents attend class with their children to make them behave and focus on learning.
Sarcasm is not for me. No thanks.
😂😂never going to happen. Parents will help their child attack the teachers.
None of that stuff had ever worked…. The only thing that will work for these kids is prayer. This generation has lost what it means to have God in your life. Everyone leaning to their own understanding…
Preach!
No. Sky Daddy has nothing to do with this.
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Nah, yall are wrong for putting this all on the parents. These comments are full of assumptions too. There are parents who have “bad” kids and try to advocate for them, not to get away with stuff but to get the help they need. Parents would ask for years and the schools would ignore them then the parents would burn out and because the schools don’t care about helping the kids like they claim they do. Schools also stopped holding students accountable for their actions. I remember there used to be Saturday school, detention, in school suspension and home suspension for kids who misbehaved but now schools are more worried about a child’s feelings than their education. There are kids that come from good homes with good parents but act out because they are INFLUENCED by other kids and adults because there is a higher priority of being liked than being smart. Reverse that No Child Left Behind crap and start holding kids accountable for their actions and they will start getting their act together. The promise of having to repeat a grade will set them straight because no one wants to be “that kid”.