I like the way Thomas has improvised to place the microphone on his suit pocket when showing the upper roof and settings. Well done. On the other hand why not use one of those little button microphones so it would be easy for you. i do also like your classic holding mic presentation.
=) If you take a look at our driving parts of the reviews, you see that we of course have clip-on microphones. However there are several good reasons to use the handheld microphone very often, we do that intentionally. See more details here: ua-cam.com/video/q8mbwezd_VY/v-deo.html
When we had the van out for a test drive I've noticed that although materials looked OK, when pressed lightly the dash produced cheap sounds - can you advise if that has changed? Eg that when you lightly press the dash (eg with two fingers, just below 'CD player') the dash does not produce any cheap screaking sounds? Funny enough the dash did not produce any sounds during test drive, only when pressed - and you do press it as you click on 'radio', 'media', 'tel' central buttons... I've had an AMG V250 with carbon trim dash... Thanks!
Q re interior for the white AMG one - was this the new 'tartufo' nappa leather interior, or the previous version's maroon one? The grey Avantgarde - was it the new 'graphite' grey, or 'selenite'... might be useful to put this details in the video description in the future... thanks!
wish these modern vans are available in the US, we have work vans and passenger vans that are suited for business more than family like the v class here
Great Video, hope it available in US soon, but the taillight seems very similar to Hyundai Palisade, Genesis G90, Kia Telluride.. but still looks great!!
Recent V-class are quite nice. Would definitely choose a V-class as the practical car after I get a Bentley Continental GT for work and Lamborghini Urus for the weekends.
I would say, with the new OM654 the diesel issue is over and solved for the next couple of years. This new engine is the best diesel one ever created. EURO VI is way fully fulfilled!
I like that Daimler / Mercedes aren’t afraid to be in pretty much every market segment and possibly risk diluting their premium status. BMW do make motorcycles of course, but imagine if they made vans, trucks, buses, a car like the Smart etc. Would be very odd to see at first. But I suppose a Mercedes motorcycle would be equally weird.
We are really considering our next 'big' car (family of 6) and were looking forward (hoping) MB would install MBUX instead of the existing 'Command'... Difficult to justify buying a vehicle in 2019 with a 'radio with CD player' mounted in the central dash :-) To add 'insult to injury' MB is bragging that V Class has '...one of the youngest buyer groups...' ua-cam.com/video/Ty5fcJAwYIQ/v-deo.html (description) So, 'young' buyers get a CD player and 'other' buyers including Sprinter truck drivers get MBUX :-) Ahhha, someone should have a serious chat with their marketing dept...
Four years are a lot... New engines and 9-speed auto must have been a challenge to integrate, that is a decent effort by MB, but still... Command Online and it's awkward controller feels two gens behind up to date BMW and Audi systems. Actually, I'm more concerned re things I've posted above (eg cheap plastics somehow looking good, glare in the instrument panel, insensitive truck-like breaks to name a few…). The brand itself and rear wheel drive (plan to use the car mostly in the city, so turning circle is important - 4Matic has >1m bigger turning circle) are also somehow 'against my religion' :-)… However, there is no real competition out there - VW Multivan is really a van - absolutely no 'car' in it and costs are comparable to v class, so...
@@planck000 bit to be fair command will be more than enough for the average user anyway. And its been updated so its not the completly old one but yah I see your point otherwise
Hydraulic bonnet struts, Thomas! But expense. A nice e-V-Class 'electric' (when it arrives) will be VERY expensive - more than an e-NV200 Combi, for sure. Kind regards to Holger. Many thanks for your excellent video.
Such expensive VAN.... But you will just enjoy the experience in it especially with family...... For me i would pick the first one shown in this review but the interior i would pick it in black and dark Brown seats / wood panel
Autogefühl The long wheel base can be difficult parking in the underground Q park in Europe and UK. I have the 2018 AMG line SWB and it just about managed to stay on the white line in the parking spot allocated. Other wise the best option is the LWB.
@@RocoWolf hi, not exactly. Metris is the Vito version, which is a transporter van, not the luxury V Class. I think the V Class can be bought in the USA just by importing it...
Very good review as usual Thomas. Interior is a joke for this price. Nothing has changed as such, no digital cluster, no better entertainment. It has nothing to do with face-lift, at best little makeup.
@@jamiep61 soo disappointed on this v class, even the sprinter has better looking headlights and mbux. they could at least taken the headlights from the sprinter, if they did not want to use money on making new ones.
The second row and back seats are still crap and do not fold down into the floor. No they don't need to sell this in the United States the AIRSTREAM INTERSTATE which is built on the Mercedes Sprinter Chasis is a LOT nicer and built with better materials. Yes you pay more for quality with the AIRSTREAM but you also get a nice toilet and shower. Additionally there are custom van places that will take a stripped down Metris and apply quality interior construction (better than what Mercedes factory would do, including upgrading the seats). So you can buy in the United States an upgraded Metris or upgraded Sprinter and get a better experience.
Its not garbage, its a commercial vehicle. Compare it to the Transit Connect or the Ram Promaster City and you can see its superior in every measurable way. But its a fleet vehicle.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment. You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at ua-cam.com/video/S1aNZeoatmE/v-deo.html). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable. A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: ua-cam.com/video/1pRNkW9nrrw/v-deo.html And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: ua-cam.com/video/6vXePQi_MAk/v-deo.html New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: ua-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/v-deo.html More and more natural materials are rising: ua-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/v-deo.html Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: ua-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/v-deo.html For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: ua-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/v-deo.html Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. Also a group of researchers and German journalists from public media could recent directly trace the connection between car animal leather production and illegal burning down Amazon rain forest: www.daserste.de/information/reportage-dokumentation/ard-story/videos/illegales-leder-video-100.html In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? Remember that animal skin leather is no different to fur, fur is just leather where the hair is still on. And fur is widely not accepted for clothing anymore, and of course not for cars. We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future. For a great insight into sustainability in the automotive industry, you can also check out our extensive documentary: ua-cam.com/video/-8gNXlRGngA/v-deo.html
Animal Skin? Wirklich? Also kein Rindsleder sondern Häute von nicht definierten Kadavern ohne Herkunftsnachweis... Horse warscheinlich ? Ich muss gestehen das mich dass etwas verwirrt und von Mercedes so nicht erwartet habe. Aber wenn die nur eine ominoese "animal skin" anbieten ist der Traum vom Polo ausgeträumt 😉
Schau mal wir haben ausführliche Infos zu dem Thema. Mercedes bietet zum Glück auch viele Alternativen dazu an in ihren Autos (Stoff, Dinamica Mikrofaser und Artico Kunstleder). We have researched this issue for many years now so please take your time to go through our extensive resources stated below as they answer every single question we have yet received concerning this matter. At Autogefühl, we have already received several thousands (!) comments, messages and mails that more and more people want to combine enjoying their car with reducing the environmental impact at the same time. We believe that sustainable luxury is possible or at least we should do everything to support that. Those many thousand people confirming this trend, motivate us to give you the most authentic information and background on the product parts. It is not about what you bought in the past, and it is not about blaming anyone, it is about what you decide in the future and what you can decide and influence as a customer. So we want you to have all information that you need for a decision you later enjoy and like best yourself. In Summer 2017, Tesla motors has decided to be the first manufacturer to go all the way with sustainable seat materials, only offering fabric/cloth seats or leatherette seats in different colours. They have banned all real leather from the seating surface and at the steering wheel in the white trim or on demand. So Tesla shows where the industry will and must be heading, just like they went forward with electrification first. Check out our special video addressing car CEOs as a first summary and also see conditions of animal skin production: ua-cam.com/video/LNSUzZXzpdc/v-deo.html List of practical reasons against animal skin seats: 1. animal skin seats are often sold as an expensive option, by going for base trim level seats you can save a lot of money and get a better price-performance-deal (often the manufacturers claim that animal leather is top of luxury because they can earn the best money with it) 2. animal skin seats get hot in summer and you stick to the seat, probably you need seat cooling 3. they get very cold in winter and you need seat heating 4. on cloth or microfibre surfaces, you basically don’t need seat heating nor cooling 5. animal skin seats wear out very fast and look like an old sofa 6. if you want leather look or need seats that can be wiped clean easier, the leatherette (faux leather) surfaces are meanwhile highly evolved and it is possible that it feels even softer and better than anything else (See our Tesla Model X review ua-cam.com/video/y2wNGFKa4M0/v-deo.html) So Tesla shows a good example for that and as described, non-leather materials are now standard for ALL Tesla 7. More manufacturer names for their good alternatives: Mercedes MBTex/Artico for leatherette, Dinamica for microfibre. BMW Sensatec, Toyota Sof-Tex, Lexus Nu-Luxe (all faux leather) To the environmental reasons: 1. The way the cows and other intelligent and social animals are raised and held are not according to the basic values that we all share (also see videos below) 2. The factory farming industry can be accounted for at least 40 % of climate emissions and thus is (according to numerous sources you can look up) the number one reason for climate change and environmental destruction. It is the number one reason for deforestation, two thirds of all agricultural land on earth is used for growing animal food crops. If you would feed humans directly by using the agricultural land, you could produce much more food for everyone. See this interesting essay for more on climate emissions background: www.worldwatch.org/files/pdf/Livestock%20and%20Climate%20Change.pdf 3. It is not only cows who are suffering, but also the environment and to a big part also humans. Think of slavery-like working conditions in slaughterhouses (there are plenty of documentaries about this) or think of chemically altered drinking water in animal skin production villages as also seen in the video footage. 4. The discussion, for which body part the cow is killed first, is very patronizing. But if you really think it would be important why someone gets killed in first place: There are many productions where the cow is killed for the skin first, sometimes even while still being (part-)alive, the skin is the most profitable single part of the body. 5. So even if a cow gets theoretically killed for meat first, in every case you give additional money to an industry that relies on killing, pollutes the environment and harms people with chemicals. Let's say you are standing at the meat counter. And you ask for the leg of the cow. The butcher tells you: "You can eat that without worrying, the cow was slaughtered for the neck first". The next customer demands the neck. The butcher tells him: "It's not your fault, the cow was slaughtered for the belly". A the next customer demands the hide, what answer does he get? You see, that argument of "byproduct" comes from the meat and leather industry to cover up that you contribute to killing no matter which part of the body you buy. 6. To the often said argument, animal skin would just be a byproduct, please google/youtube "leather is not a byproduct" you will find plenty of information. A good overview on all those issues can also be found here: adaptt.org/ To “But leatherette is not sustainable due to petrochemical production” 1. Indeed some fabrics and micro fibres are oil based, however most oil is spent on energy production, heating and fuel. The share of oil used for artificial cloth etc. is very very small. 2. If you look at the whole production process, the leatherette is way more sustainable than the leather produce. Even if you leave the ethical aspect aside, here is the official calculation of the CO2-Output animal skin vs leatherette (different kinds of leatherette): Leather 17 kg CO2/m² PVC leatherette 10 kg CO2/m² Acella Eco natural leatherette 8,5 kg CO2/m² Benova (PUR leatherette): 8 kg CO2/m² So by using the latest high-tech leatherette, you even the CO2-emissions are cut in half! 3. The best to-come solution are indeed plant-based materials like Pinatex (based on pineapple leaves) or new materials based on mycelia (roots of mushrooms) or other innovative natural products. That’s the future. A great extensive report is also to be found here: moneywisedriver.com/do-vegan-cars-exist-a-guide-to-non-leather-interiors/ More special video episodes: 1. A initial special video from Autogefühl considering the use of leather can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/8f91KgbVbJQ/v-deo.html 2. And another one right here: ua-cam.com/video/tMNgcLE0LDU/v-deo.html 3. Furthermore, you’ll find the footage of leather production also here, where people are walking in chemicals etc. and animals have to watch their friends being slaughtered in front of their eyes: ua-cam.com/video/JipYvuDsI6s/v-deo.html timecode starting 27:46 4. This is another video which very well summarizes the torture of leather production, shots taken at big farms which directly produce for the automotive industry: ua-cam.com/video/OgHs239bAnE/v-deo.html 5. Please note that those videos are made by well-known journalists and cameramen who were not influenced by any animal welfare organisation, they supply their footage to the animal rights groups of course. I partly know the creators of the video footage personally and they are all authentic. You don’t have to search long to find cruel production environments anyway. Manufacturers reactions: We started the very first inquiry years ago, with the result that car manufacturers do not reveal their sources of animal skin AT ALL. If it all would be clean and happening without harm, why don’t they show it to us whereas they are showing us every other detail of their products? They have good reason not to, because there is no such thing as a clean animal skin production without harming cows, humans and the environment. The only thing a manufacturer can do is increase their effort for a better future, and we are helping with in-depth talks and interviews by presenting the increasing customer demand for sustainable luxury. Tesla was the first one to react in a major way now. So meanwhile, we more often also get feedback that a lot of manufacturers are working on leather-free interiors and are aware of the situation. E.g. Bentley, Mini and Kia have started vegan car interior programmes. Besides Tesla, Mercedes already shows major choices for sustainable interiors, you always have to pay attention to the details when ordering, of course - and we are happy to give advice. However, much has to be done still and the Autogefuehl community is massively helping in boosting the positive change! Help to raise awareness on this subject. Thanks!
I really can't understand how Mercedes is so stupid in term of camper vans!!! why the hell they don't want to take off their heads from their Asses and listen to real camper costumers VS insisting to use their car mentality in the camping world.. that's why Marco polo never sells!!
Great presenting, enjoyed the show!
Cheers, keep tuning in !
A first class review, thank you !!
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A good and informative review, thank you.
very nice review
I like the fact that you also accommodate us tall people, I'm 1.8m
The best mowie like always ;)Greeting from Poland 🇵🇱
Very detailed review of the V Class. :)
Thanks, please feel free to share :)
Very nice rewiev!
Das ist das beste Video zur MOPF 2019! Sehr ausführlich und schöne Bilder, Kompliment!
Danke 🙏
How does this video already have 14 thumbs down? IT IS NOT A RATING SYSTEM FOR THE CAR GUYS, DON'T GIVE THOMAS A THUMBS DOWN!
Yes, thank you
@@autogefuehl Thomas always deserves thumbs up :) One of the greatest and undoubtably the most serious! Keep it up Thomas! :)
thanks for the support =)
Justin Allen I think people are giving the thumbs down to the vehicle rather than Thomas or the production of the video
@@petedavis8701 exactly, but that's not the point of the thumbs up/down.
Going to check if it available in Australia yet. My kids would love this van and would definitely get it in the AMG line
I think the white looks great. What colour would you choose?
I’m looking to buy one. What is the best colour?
Great Video Preview. In the UK I would choose the AMG Line In standard form
The new 6 seat layout is lovely! They really need the seat-back screens for rear passengers or a big flip down monitor like Toyota Alphard has.
How many seats does it have
@@raindros4574 Alphard is actually available as a 7-seater with the 2nd row reclining chairs.
Thank you Thomas you did again a great job! For my company I need a new v-class. This has been a great review to make my final decision
Cool glad we could help!
I like the way Thomas has improvised to place the microphone on his suit pocket when showing the upper roof and settings. Well done. On the other hand why not use one of those little button microphones so it would be easy for you. i do also like your classic holding mic presentation.
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If you take a look at our driving parts of the reviews, you see that we of course have clip-on microphones. However there are several good reasons to use the handheld microphone very often, we do that intentionally. See more details here: ua-cam.com/video/q8mbwezd_VY/v-deo.html
When we had the van out for a test drive I've noticed that although materials looked OK, when pressed lightly the dash produced cheap sounds - can you advise if that has changed? Eg that when you lightly press the dash (eg with two fingers, just below 'CD player') the dash does not produce any cheap screaking sounds? Funny enough the dash did not produce any sounds during test drive, only when pressed - and you do press it as you click on 'radio', 'media', 'tel' central buttons... I've had an AMG V250 with carbon trim dash... Thanks!
Q re interior for the white AMG one - was this the new 'tartufo' nappa leather interior, or the previous version's maroon one? The grey Avantgarde - was it the new 'graphite' grey, or 'selenite'... might be useful to put this details in the video description in the future... thanks!
Nice review Thomas, greetings from south east Asia
cheers man!
Amazing! Thanks Thomas.
Please the price of this white one, thanks
wish these modern vans are available in the US, we have work vans and passenger vans that are suited for business more than family like the v class here
I have the current V250cdi AMG line (2018). I’m struggling to see any major changes. Will they be sending the 4matic in the uk?
No, im pretty sure 4matic is still not available in UK.
wish these would come to america. My vw t-4 is nice but the Marco polo is elegant camping or glamping!! love it...
Great Video, hope it available in US soon, but the taillight seems very similar to Hyundai Palisade, Genesis G90, Kia Telluride.. but still looks great!!
►Compare VW T6: ua-cam.com/video/IAJWE75VIGI/v-deo.html
Great review as always 👍🏻👍🏻
Recent V-class are quite nice. Would definitely choose a V-class as the practical car after I get a Bentley Continental GT for work and Lamborghini Urus for the weekends.
best car i ever owned... but diesel in 2020? .....i will wait 4 the plugin hybrid
I would say, with the new OM654 the diesel issue is over and solved for the next couple of years. This new engine is the best diesel one ever created. EURO VI is way fully fulfilled!
Nice review Thomas
Beautiful car 🚙 please how much 👍👍👍
perfect for a familty Thank you Thomas.
cheers mehmet!
I like that Daimler / Mercedes aren’t afraid to be in pretty much every market segment and possibly risk diluting their premium status.
BMW do make motorcycles of course, but imagine if they made vans, trucks, buses, a car like the Smart etc. Would be very odd to see at first. But I suppose a Mercedes motorcycle would be equally weird.
Wow.. this car is luxury and awesome
Will this be in the U.S. or Metris only? Great video as always. #1Bondvillan!😀
Is it coming to the us?
Big fail by not including the updated interior with the MBUX system. So sad Mercedes.... so sad.
We are really considering our next 'big' car (family of 6) and were looking forward (hoping) MB would install MBUX instead of the existing 'Command'... Difficult to justify buying a vehicle in 2019 with a 'radio with CD player' mounted in the central dash :-) To add 'insult to injury' MB is bragging that V Class has '...one of the youngest buyer groups...' ua-cam.com/video/Ty5fcJAwYIQ/v-deo.html (description) So, 'young' buyers get a CD player and 'other' buyers including Sprinter truck drivers get MBUX :-) Ahhha, someone should have a serious chat with their marketing dept...
This is a FACELIFT not a new model. They will put it in the new model. So not a fail at all.
Four years are a lot... New engines and 9-speed auto must have been a challenge to integrate, that is a decent effort by MB, but still... Command Online and it's awkward controller feels two gens behind up to date BMW and Audi systems. Actually, I'm more concerned re things I've posted above (eg cheap plastics somehow looking good, glare in the instrument panel, insensitive truck-like breaks to name a few…). The brand itself and rear wheel drive (plan to use the car mostly in the city, so turning circle is important - 4Matic has >1m bigger turning circle) are also somehow 'against my religion' :-)… However, there is no real competition out there - VW Multivan is really a van - absolutely no 'car' in it and costs are comparable to v class, so...
@@planck000 bit to be fair command will be more than enough for the average user anyway. And its been updated so its not the completly old one but yah I see your point otherwise
Hydraulic bonnet struts, Thomas! But expense. A nice e-V-Class 'electric' (when it arrives) will be VERY expensive - more than an e-NV200 Combi, for sure. Kind regards to Holger. Many thanks for your excellent video.
Thx john!
Wie was ??? immer noch kein Car Play. Wo soll den das Handy hin? keine Qi-Ladefläche. Keine touch display? Willkommen im Jahr 2019
I love the V-class but how many nights can you spend in nice hotels for the 70k euros you pay for the Marco Polo?
Such expensive VAN.... But you will just enjoy the experience in it especially with family...... For me i would pick the first one shown in this review but the interior i would pick it in black and dark Brown seats / wood panel
Und was bitte haben die geändert? Sieht genau gleich aus wie das VFL...
Thomas the bestttt
Still don’t have auto start engine button , sad
Ok how much ?
any news on price for regular SUV 4 door gle 350-400 model ?
that blue is beautiful ...
idk im looking to by a V class with 6 passenger seats and plenty of luggage space.....seems this wont help,,
Get the lwb the
As i said we showed the mid length
Autogefühl The long wheel base can be difficult parking in the underground Q park in Europe and UK. I have the 2018 AMG line SWB and it just about managed to stay on the white line in the parking spot allocated. Other wise the best option is the LWB.
still not coming to the US I'm guessing
The V-Class in the US is called the Metris
@@Wyde_Boi I stand corrected
@@RocoWolf hi, not exactly. Metris is the Vito version, which is a transporter van, not the luxury V Class. I think the V Class can be bought in the USA just by importing it...
@@RocoWolf no the metris is a completly different car
I love it Superb Mercedes 👍👍👍
Alphard Executive lounge vs V Class ... hmmm
Do they sell this in the US?
Of course not
where can I buy this car in Romania or Germany
Very good review as usual Thomas. Interior is a joke for this price. Nothing has changed as such, no digital cluster, no better entertainment. It has nothing to do with face-lift, at best little makeup.
Can we buy this in north America?
No
check out toyota alphard, its another level of luxury.
@yazkaz what are FF and FR?
@yazkaz which car do you prefer?
@yazkaz both are luxury vans tho...
ua-cam.com/video/lebMyEQaEL0/v-deo.html alphard is the most popular luxury van in asia.
great van.
What did they change !! nothing
grspunjabi Best or ‘nothing’
grspunjabi I wish Mercedes Included the new larger Infotainment System and MBUX
If its not broken don't fix it!
No! There is one improvement. The price has gone up.
@@jamiep61 soo disappointed on this v class, even the sprinter has better looking headlights and mbux. they could at least taken the headlights from the sprinter, if they did not want to use money on making new ones.
Some things look a bit cheaply made in that model, I don't know if it's worth the money compared to say a Honda Odyssey
Honda Odyssey is shit
@@jalis812 my family has owned 2 Honda Odysseys and never had any sort of problem
Also the Mercedes Metris
We dont have the metris in europe
Buying a car in 2019 without Carplay/Android Auto; it will look VERY old in 5 years. T6.1 here I come, even if the MB looks much better.
The only reviewer who said about the V class...discrimination against tall people! LOL!
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Nice one, thanks🚦🏴🇿🇦🇿🇼🇹🇴🇺🇸🏴🇻🇳
They are missing out on selling in this 🇺🇸
You got a ton of minivans in the us.
The is Non in Australia, Non Marco Polo with kitchen you just review.
Yes you hear that, Non in Australia.
Awyea just be around so we can see each other that's all it is we just need to see each other so it won't feel like nobody tryna hide
Only Thomas could make vans interesting.
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When is the all new v class launching not this facelift
not when the facelift is launching
my guess is 2021
The second row and back seats are still crap and do not fold down into the floor. No they don't need to sell this in the United States the AIRSTREAM INTERSTATE which is built on the Mercedes Sprinter Chasis is a LOT nicer and built with better materials. Yes you pay more for quality with the AIRSTREAM but you also get a nice toilet and shower. Additionally there are custom van places that will take a stripped down Metris and apply quality interior construction (better than what Mercedes factory would do, including upgrading the seats). So you can buy in the United States an upgraded Metris or upgraded Sprinter and get a better experience.
interior and windows and light are same
Him:This one hier hat less particles.
: now im starting to understand german.
Is bigger than Pacifica and Asians minivans ????
I love this car i want v class
The ottoman 2nd seat is quite rubbish as it does not support the entire length
Mijn volgeden auto
Would rather drive the good old Transporter T4 with the 2.5-litre 5 cylinder. That thing never gets old.
Very nice vehicle. I could live out of this.
2019 and he's still holding a microphone.
ua-cam.com/video/q8mbwezd_VY/v-deo.html
The best is VW t6.1 and the rest forget.
Thomas is the sexiest guy on UA-cam
Article leather 👏🏽😂
The US has the Metris which is literal garbage
Its not garbage, its a commercial vehicle. Compare it to the Transit Connect or the Ram Promaster City and you can see its superior in every measurable way. But its a fleet vehicle.
An AMG van should not be allowed 😂
When I would be rich that would be my driver's car. 😁 But would build in 42" flat tv inside...
Thomas has very long legs and very short upper body. (In ref. to his hight 185 = 6.1")
Fabric my arse nothing feels like real leather😅
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment.
You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at ua-cam.com/video/S1aNZeoatmE/v-deo.html). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: ua-cam.com/video/1pRNkW9nrrw/v-deo.html
And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: ua-cam.com/video/6vXePQi_MAk/v-deo.html
New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: ua-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/v-deo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: ua-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/v-deo.html
Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: ua-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/v-deo.html
For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: ua-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/v-deo.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
Also a group of researchers and German journalists from public media could recent directly trace the connection between car animal leather production and illegal burning down Amazon rain forest:
www.daserste.de/information/reportage-dokumentation/ard-story/videos/illegales-leder-video-100.html
In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? Remember that animal skin leather is no different to fur, fur is just leather where the hair is still on. And fur is widely not accepted for clothing anymore, and of course not for cars.
We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
For a great insight into sustainability in the automotive industry, you can also check out our extensive documentary:
ua-cam.com/video/-8gNXlRGngA/v-deo.html
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Joder ...
el único español que le gusta?
😂Sporty AMG Van 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
mctaboo like r63 amg, I always wondering they can built a v63 amg with awd.
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to expensive and no toilet...better a campervan.
Nothing has changed,nothing new, old news
Lovely you are okay
I will buy marco pollo...when i am 50...14 years to go...it's £60k now...in 14 years i will pay 10%😊👍
Wish me luck...😂
Good luck Peter 😉
Lexus LM better than this
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Animal Skin? Wirklich? Also kein Rindsleder sondern Häute von nicht definierten Kadavern ohne Herkunftsnachweis... Horse warscheinlich ? Ich muss gestehen das mich dass etwas verwirrt und von Mercedes so nicht erwartet habe. Aber wenn die nur eine ominoese "animal skin" anbieten ist der Traum vom Polo ausgeträumt 😉
Schau mal wir haben ausführliche Infos zu dem Thema. Mercedes bietet zum Glück auch viele Alternativen dazu an in ihren Autos (Stoff, Dinamica Mikrofaser und Artico Kunstleder).
We have researched this issue for many years now so please take your time to go through our extensive resources stated below as they answer every single question we have yet received concerning this matter.
At Autogefühl, we have already received several thousands (!) comments, messages and mails that more and more people want to combine enjoying their car with reducing the environmental impact at the same time. We believe that sustainable luxury is possible or at least we should do everything to support that. Those many thousand people confirming this trend, motivate us to give you the most authentic information and background on the product parts. It is not about what you bought in the past, and it is not about blaming anyone, it is about what you decide in the future and what you can decide and influence as a customer. So we want you to have all information that you need for a decision you later enjoy and like best yourself.
In Summer 2017, Tesla motors has decided to be the first manufacturer to go all the way with sustainable seat materials, only offering fabric/cloth seats or leatherette seats in different colours. They have banned all real leather from the seating surface and at the steering wheel in the white trim or on demand. So Tesla shows where the industry will and must be heading, just like they went forward with electrification first.
Check out our special video addressing car CEOs as a first summary and also see conditions of animal skin production:
ua-cam.com/video/LNSUzZXzpdc/v-deo.html
List of practical reasons against animal skin seats:
1. animal skin seats are often sold as an expensive option, by going for base trim level seats you can save a lot of money and get a better price-performance-deal (often the manufacturers claim that animal leather is top of luxury because they can earn the best money with it)
2. animal skin seats get hot in summer and you stick to the seat, probably you need seat cooling
3. they get very cold in winter and you need seat heating
4. on cloth or microfibre surfaces, you basically don’t need seat heating nor cooling
5. animal skin seats wear out very fast and look like an old sofa
6. if you want leather look or need seats that can be wiped clean easier, the leatherette (faux leather) surfaces are meanwhile highly evolved and it is possible that it feels even softer and better than anything else (See our Tesla Model X review ua-cam.com/video/y2wNGFKa4M0/v-deo.html) So Tesla shows a good example for that and as described, non-leather materials are now standard for ALL Tesla
7. More manufacturer names for their good alternatives: Mercedes MBTex/Artico for leatherette, Dinamica for microfibre. BMW Sensatec, Toyota Sof-Tex, Lexus Nu-Luxe (all faux leather)
To the environmental reasons:
1. The way the cows and other intelligent and social animals are raised and held are not according to the basic values that we all share (also see videos below)
2. The factory farming industry can be accounted for at least 40 % of climate emissions and thus is (according to numerous sources you can look up) the number one reason for climate change and environmental destruction. It is the number one reason for deforestation, two thirds of all agricultural land on earth is used for growing animal food crops. If you would feed humans directly by using the agricultural land, you could produce much more food for everyone. See this interesting essay for more on climate emissions background: www.worldwatch.org/files/pdf/Livestock%20and%20Climate%20Change.pdf
3. It is not only cows who are suffering, but also the environment and to a big part also humans. Think of slavery-like working conditions in slaughterhouses (there are plenty of documentaries about this) or think of chemically altered drinking water in animal skin production villages as also seen in the video footage.
4. The discussion, for which body part the cow is killed first, is very patronizing. But if you really think it would be important why someone gets killed in first place: There are many productions where the cow is killed for the skin first, sometimes even while still being (part-)alive, the skin is the most profitable single part of the body.
5. So even if a cow gets theoretically killed for meat first, in every case you give additional money to an industry that relies on killing, pollutes the environment and harms people with chemicals. Let's say you are standing at the meat counter. And you ask for the leg of the cow. The butcher tells you: "You can eat that without worrying, the cow was slaughtered for the neck first". The next customer demands the neck. The butcher tells him: "It's not your fault, the cow was slaughtered for the belly". A the next customer demands the hide, what answer does he get? You see, that argument of "byproduct" comes from the meat and leather industry to cover up that you contribute to killing no matter which part of the body you buy.
6. To the often said argument, animal skin would just be a byproduct, please google/youtube "leather is not a byproduct" you will find plenty of information. A good overview on all those issues can also be found here: adaptt.org/
To “But leatherette is not sustainable due to petrochemical production”
1. Indeed some fabrics and micro fibres are oil based, however most oil is spent on energy production, heating and fuel. The share of oil used for artificial cloth etc. is very very small.
2. If you look at the whole production process, the leatherette is way more sustainable than the leather produce. Even if you leave the ethical aspect aside, here is the official calculation of the CO2-Output animal skin vs leatherette (different kinds of leatherette):
Leather 17 kg CO2/m²
PVC leatherette 10 kg CO2/m²
Acella Eco natural leatherette 8,5 kg CO2/m²
Benova (PUR leatherette): 8 kg CO2/m²
So by using the latest high-tech leatherette, you even the CO2-emissions are cut in half!
3. The best to-come solution are indeed plant-based materials like Pinatex (based on pineapple leaves) or new materials based on mycelia (roots of mushrooms) or other innovative natural products. That’s the future.
A great extensive report is also to be found here:
moneywisedriver.com/do-vegan-cars-exist-a-guide-to-non-leather-interiors/
More special video episodes:
1. A initial special video from Autogefühl considering the use of leather can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/8f91KgbVbJQ/v-deo.html
2. And another one right here: ua-cam.com/video/tMNgcLE0LDU/v-deo.html
3. Furthermore, you’ll find the footage of leather production also here, where people are walking in chemicals etc. and animals have to watch their friends being slaughtered in front of their eyes: ua-cam.com/video/JipYvuDsI6s/v-deo.html
timecode starting 27:46
4. This is another video which very well summarizes the torture of leather production, shots taken at big farms which directly produce for the automotive industry: ua-cam.com/video/OgHs239bAnE/v-deo.html
5. Please note that those videos are made by well-known journalists and cameramen who were not influenced by any animal welfare organisation, they supply their footage to the animal rights groups of course. I partly know the creators of the video footage personally and they are all authentic. You don’t have to search long to find cruel production environments anyway.
Manufacturers reactions:
We started the very first inquiry years ago, with the result that car manufacturers do not reveal their sources of animal skin AT ALL. If it all would be clean and happening without harm, why don’t they show it to us whereas they are showing us every other detail of their products? They have good reason not to, because there is no such thing as a clean animal skin production without harming cows, humans and the environment. The only thing a manufacturer can do is increase their effort for a better future, and we are helping with in-depth talks and interviews by presenting the increasing customer demand for sustainable luxury. Tesla was the first one to react in a major way now.
So meanwhile, we more often also get feedback that a lot of manufacturers are working on leather-free interiors and are aware of the situation. E.g. Bentley, Mini and Kia have started vegan car interior programmes. Besides Tesla, Mercedes already shows major choices for sustainable interiors, you always have to pay attention to the details when ordering, of course - and we are happy to give advice. However, much has to be done still and the Autogefuehl community is massively helping in boosting the positive change!
Help to raise awareness on this subject. Thanks!
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Nice car but it is stupidly expensive.
I really can't understand how Mercedes is so stupid in term of camper vans!!!
why the hell they don't want to take off their heads from their Asses and listen to real camper costumers VS insisting to use their car mentality in the camping world..
that's why Marco polo never sells!!