I agree, people must talk themselves in to the trap. Nothing good happens when people knock on the door. I did see a goon van about 4 years ago doing the rounds, one even stopped outside. I was hoping he would get out and knock, he never did.
We should end ALL Capita contracts. They're vastly overpaid, the company execs are stealing as much of the license fee as they can get away with (under the guise of 'third party' tv shows that allegedly get made then never aired - the rule say the BBC doesn't have to publicize ANY data on these). MOST of the BBC license fee is literally being stolen by Capita (kickbacks to the BBC director general and the BBC board of directors) and the board/director general themselves.
I haven't seen them. They send letters to The Occupier or Resident (can't remember which), but I've not had anyone turn up for the 20 years I've not been paying.
🤣 Keeps you on your toes when the doorbell goes, when your not expecting it. Year 12 for me & had a visit last Tuesday. I simply say Hello (he asked me if I lived here) & I admit I had a bit of a convo along the lines of "What's it to you?" to just waste his time, for a bit of fun, it was all recorded on the doorbell & to put his believed sense of authority into the gutter a lot. Never let them in is the No 1 rule.
Indeed I havnt answered the door for years now don't even answer the phone to unknown numbers it's brilliant not a worry in the world stick to it it's dead easy 😁🏴👍
People like to over complicate the TV Licence issue, threatening to sue for harassment etc and what to do. Its quite simple. You bin the letters, cos they are designed to wind you up - so you bite. And simply tell them to bugger off at the door.
I do have a no-cold callers sticker, it does not always always work to be honest. If it's a salesman or someone pretending to be a gardener type, the ones that travel in caravans. I say nothing but point to the sticker. Most times I don't answear the door.
Not paid mine for years, they sent a letter & email recently, asking me to let them know if I needed a TV license. I ignored both. Not getting a word or penny from me. Door shut
I stayed at a Premier Inn and so had a TV for first time in years and years. I couldnt believe what shite I was watching from breakfast TV to all of the repeats. There was NOTHING to watch. Glad I haven't had a licence since it went digital.
I'm using a plasma panel that I bought in 2003. It still annoys me that I have to switch from analogue to the hdmi input every time I switch on - because the law in those days stipulated that an analogue tuner had to be built into any consumer video display device! Not only that: back then, everyone had to give their name & address when they bought "television" equipment from a store. Now I use an Apple TV, connected to the same plasma panel and my sound system. I have apps for UA-cam, GB News, etc., on there. I'll be subscribing to Paramount+ for movies and entertainment this Christmas. It's cheaper than a TV licence, and easy to unsubscribe. I can also hire or buy movies just like in the good old days of Blockbuster! Lol.
@@englishciderlover7347 You can say that again, Freeview did have some good FTA sport on so did the BBC. They lost everything to Sky and BT, there was a lot less reality shows before the switchover went nationwide. ITV had a lot of FTA cricket but they didn't put much of a fight to retain the rights. Channel 5 had American sports and MMA.
Thank you for helping everyone by WARNING us about these monsters. I have a "no cold callers" & "no callers without a prior appointment ......and as tempting as it would be to shout at the f*ckers.......i will adhere to your advice ie i wont give my name and will demand tgey tell me who they are.....then it's an immediate no thank you and the door will get firmly closed and locked. Thanks again.....keep up the good work.
If the bbc put this amount of effort in to finding alternative ways to fund themselves as they do hounding or prosecuting that dont have a tv license they would get on a lot better
Agreed. Trouble is most other funding models would require the BBC to be accountable for their output. With the Licence they are free to produce whatever pet and vanity projects they wish without having to justify themselves.
It would also help if they had shareholders, just as any other corporation does. The thought of accountability would concentrate the directors' minds wonderfully.
If they put this amount of effort into finding paedos in their organisation I might consider buying a licence, I would have to think very hard about it though.
People have to be told, by NOT giving the licensing people your name you are NOT committing any offences, there is no offence of failing to give your name to TV licensing, it is as simple as that.
there ne no offence of failing to give your name anywhere and that's the police to most of the time well at least un till the option getting a lawyer seems like time? only this car? but most the time know you mane before stop your car anyway, so a bit point lest there
@@dh2032 Policing is different because they deal with ticket offences, recordable and indicatable offences, where you are required by law to give your name. TV licence goons have no such power. Black Belt Barrister has done a video for you to confirm.
I smell bulls**t. If that was the fact then how did she know her son logged into bbc I player. Did he tell her. It's not a conversation that would come up in normal conversation. Did TV Licence find out and said someone logged in. Is this fishing and she assumed he logged in. I doubt it. This could be a made up store to scare people
They really piss me off too, watching your videos CJC clued me up, I never watched that crap anyway, but I thought i needed a tv license, they will “NEVER” get a penny from me ever again! Thank you so much CJC. I so love watching your videos, especially when you get really .fcuked off!
Had a goon knock on our door tonight. Told him I wasn't interested. He tried everything he could to keep me talking. I insisted that we don't watch TV and don't need to inform TVL that we don't need one.
She dropped herself in it, by talking. Trouble with woman they just talk and talk and talk, they don't know when to stop 😅 Don't start ladies I'm only kidding 😊 the moral of this joke is, do not engage with BBC sales personnel in anyway. My first year licence free, thanks Jon, Cheers all.🥂
Surely if you don't have a contract (TV Licence) you've not consented to BBC Digital Services (or whatever they're called) sharing your personal data with TV Licencing? This must be a breach of GDPR and therefore reportable to the ICO..?
The thing about TV Licences is that under the law it comes under what is known as "ABSOLUTE LIABILITY". This is a legal concept where a person is held responsible for a crime without the need to prove fault, negligence, or criminal intent. In other words, saying my son was in hospital and I forgot to pay the licence is not a defence, as there is no defence under "Absolute liability". If you haven't got a TV Licence and you watch/record live TV or iPlayer then in the law you're guilty regardless of mitigating circumstances. No Sob story will get you out of a conviction. JUST SHUT THE DOOR if goons knock on it!!
I don't even open the letters anymore .letter box to bin Was a women who came to my house when she asked to come in I said I have no idea who you are you could accuse me if anything go away .
The BBC are putting whole TV series of theirs on to youtube. Tv licensing say on their website you can only watch clips or shorts from the BBC on youtube. That can't be right surely?
Haven't a clue. Don't watch any of their bs lies. Do Not talk or watch their lies. 😢😢 Used to years ago, until I realised they were the disinformation channel.
The official BBC Earth Science UA-cam page has full on 50+ minute documentaries uploaded on there so how does that work if I’m watching official full length BBC produced documentaries that they’ve uploaded to UA-cam? Are they going to claim I need a TV licence in order to watch their programming they’ve officially uploaded for free to UA-cam?
@@gmo4250There’s full length documentaries uploaded on the official BBC Earth Science UA-cam page. Do I need a licence to watch their programming that they themselves have officially uploaded for free or has it been uploaded by them under “fair use”?
@@Levine93 The TV Licence is only applicable for BBC content on the BBC iPlayer. UA-cam, BBC website and indeed any other platform, a licence is not required for on demand content. I like the BBC Archive channel on UA-cam, the channel you mentioned looks interesting, so thanks.
Keep getting the message out, that people have no legal requirement to give any details, or talk to TV licencing at all. DO NOT COMMUNICATE WITH THEM IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM! And, if by any chance you get a goon at your door, then it's "No, thank you" and close the door. Job's a gud un👍
To avoid installing iPlayer set up TV using another country when selecting where it is. However this should not be necessary. Installing iPlayer by default is forced on equipment otherwise and ought not to be.
Had one of these pathetic creatures at my door last Thursday evening. I was downstairs making a cup of tea with the lights on! I just ignored the door and went about my business. I've now got four letters from TV Licensing. 10 Day Window! We did Not Hear From You! Will you Be In On October 30th?! Official Investigation Begun!
Still haven't payed for a TV license in two years Keep getting letters that go round in circles The shredder is busy while I shred them Still waiting for a knock on the door two years down the line
This really boils my piss too. A mother in hospital as her son is ill (who has enough stress to deal with) lets her nephew into her home. He's oblivious to the fact that she has a no licence needed declaration, signs into iPlayer on her telly to watch Match of the Day. She gets a random knock on the door from the goons, let's them into her home and she's landed herself in trouble. It is sickening.
Remember: The default is opted out, not opted in. You opt in by paying. Otherwise you are automatically out and there is no requirement to explain yourself or exempt yourself, despite what the BBC think or believe. They are nothing of importance.
What's worse chilli is that the person who was visiting could have had a TV licence at their home and it is absolutely transferable if someone is staying temporarily at your home. They cannot possibly hope to cancel that right. Similarly in a public space, anyone watching BBC on their own device is covered by their own home TV licence, regardless of the premises they are in.
Are we vicariously liable for everyone who comes into our property? If the plumber comes round, and watch some iPlayer on his phone, do we go to jail for that?
No The phone would have to be plugged into your mains. Anyone with a laptop would have to have it plugged into the mains. So long as it does not belong to you.
Oh thank you so much, I never thought to do that. Never entered my head. And I built my own computer. it never dawned on me! Ffs. that’s brilliant. Thank you!🙏🏻
I use BBC Sounds and that app shares a login with the BBC iPlayer on my smart TV. I cannot delete the app nor remove the account because it shares the account with BBC Sounds. Luckily no one in my household will use bbc iPlayer.
No licence needed. No name no correct email, just the address. Do not talk to them. If you watch the BBC pay the licence. If you don't do not pay it even if you watch other TV channels. You should not, but why should the BBC get money from you for watching ITV or channel four.
You do such a great job warning people of the BBCs practices and procedures. Is there a way an individual could take them to court for the letters which are the equivalent of constant harassment and bullying? Maybe a small claims court!?...file a complaint and claim compensation for their behaviour?!
Jon, if the nephew had a licence at his own residence isn't he covered to watch live TV in a place he is 'on holiday'. One bit of advice for BBC iPlayer. If you registered before cancelling your licence make sure you delete auto login from TV Apps. Delete your password from the login field. That way, noone can accidently log in as they wont have the password. BBX iPlayer will keep logs of logins, programs watched, tinme of day, etc. etc. Question: Under Data Protection, do the T&C's allow them to pass on confidential info to TV Licensing?
No, having a licence for a property just allows you to watch live TV outside the property from a device running under its own power supply. If you had a caravan or boat, for instance, that had a TV connected to the battery (externally powered) you would need a _separate_ TV Licence for said property. What's even more ridiculous is you can watch live TV on your smartphone anywhere you like if you have a licence and it's just running on its battery, but if you plugged your phone into the mains of someone else's property while watching live TV from it then _they_ need a TV Licence.
efing disgusting but a simple solution, everyone make a small sacrifice and stops watching TV and cancels their TV licence. Within 3 months, TV licences will be abolished. The BBC or "British Bollox Corporation" will either go commercial or cease to exist. Problem solved !
Imagine getting married, buying a house, working hard, conceiving a child, having your wife go through labour, raising the child for 18 years, setting them free into the world, only for them to tell you they're a TV licence enforcement officer 😶
It’s disgraceful on an industrial scale! If these goons weren’t on commission they’d have less of an incentive to get involved. Any job we’re staff are commissioned they will have a bee in there bonnet to get get get, and they won’t let anything, like a sick child, get in their way.
Hi Jon Just had a visit from a gas and electric meter reader .He wanted to hand me a letter from bbc/capita , i said no thank you he then said that he was sorry to call but the deliveries are now part of his job and that he hated this part of his job . He then thanked me for being polite to him ,and left with the letter .
Something was said there I wasn’t aware of - that you cannot remove the iplayer icon from your smart TV. This seems wrong if you need a license to use it. If you can’t remove it, then I think you should only be able to access it in the same way, in that you need to be a subscriber, to Now TV, or Netflix. It really seems the BBC want to be able to fine you for the revenue.
Have you seen the new ring door bell smart messages for doorbell rings? One is Ant and Dec saying "Sorry we are too busy watching telly"....now thats a good one
IF YOU DON'T need to pay the damned TV TAX >>> MAKE SURE your TV IS NOT viewable from an exterior window! A neighbour of mine had a Dismally DVD on for his kids, got a visit from the goons and they saw his TV from his Kitchen window, and even though he did the "No thanks" and shut the door, HE WAS DRAGGED TO COURT for 'Watching live TV' and it... WAS DOWN TO HIM TO PROVE it was a DVD and that he DOSN'T need to pay TV TAX!!!... Yeah, sure, he won, but the stress he and his family went through was insane! So, curtains, blinds or just MOVE the damn thing, those devious, vile BASTIDS WILL TRY to have you.... 🤨😡
Whenever they knock (or anyone for that matter) I open the top window...as soon as they say TV Licensing just go "nope, registered as not needed, goodbye" since re-registering it's not required back in March I've had 3 visits, must be due another one soon!
It is in the small print, I knew a few lads from work who have silly email addresses and use commercial business addresses for their BBC accounts watch Iplayer,
We received a hand delivered letter from TV Licensing claiming we didn't have a TV Licence. We sent them an email with an attachment showing our TV Licence. Never got an apology back from TV Licensing regarding their accusation.
So what would stop her from logging into her own iPlayer account on a mobile device whilst in a house that IS covered by a licence? Would they still come to the door and accuse her of watching without a licence? She also has a child, did she ask the goon if he had a current eDBS id card as well that was valid for her area before letting him in? If these people are sent out to addresses where (possibly) vulnerable people live then they need to be getting enhanced database & barring service checks done for each and every county/ward they visit.
@@gypsygem9395 Wrong! Years ago when it was CRB (before DBS) I worked around Cambridge driving school bus contracts, I needed 3 separate CRBs for the areas we covered. Now I drive a taxi running school contracts and for the area I cover now I have 3 again, Cheshire West & Chester, Cheshire East and North Cheshire. All three needed to be completed (and paid for) as each ward wouldn't recognise the ones I already had. So, yes they DO work on an area by area basi, it's NOT 'one DBS covers everywhere'
Just a question, but if the nephew logged into iPlayer, did he use his own account? If so, there should be no case to answer... surely? *EDIT* So the property where iPlayer is accessed must be covered by a TV licence, even if, as in this case, someone logged in with their own details. This is crazy!
From my understanding, one can use their own licence at a different address if, and only if, no one is watching live TV/BBC at the address the licence is for. At least that's how it used to be
I see from the schedules that 'call my bluff' is being repeated. This particular series was first aired when I was 7yo. 60 years ago! Dad's Army recently on prime time Saturdays. We paid a TV licence for the privilege back then and precisely why I don't watch it now!
How would it stand if someone visits your house who has a TV licence Nd uses iPlayer on their mobile. (Which they can do legally on battery power) But they then cast it to the smart TV. Technically where does it stand. The data is being sent to a correctly licensed battery powered mobile device but the picture is shown on the TV?
I know you say to just say "No thank you" but I enjoy wasting as much of their time as possible, I do the same to scam calls... Will play along as long as I can lol.
We need to stay following the gonna back to their cars, taking now off their registration plates and reporting them to police for not having business insurance on their car insurance because they are not covered by social, domestic, pleasure and commuting. If just eat delivery drivers need business car insurance then goons also need one.
When the TV licensing detector van was coming down our street my parents would turn off the telly draw the curtains turn off the lights and hide behind the sofa .
I cancelled my license in the summer over the last few weeks I've had 2 email saying I've been watching IPlayer at 2.04 in the afternoon. Not true at both these times we were at Sheffield western park cancer hospital with our daughter only the dog was at home and at the minute we don't need all this stress 😢
Criminal convictions for accessing entertainment! If I sneak into my local cinema and enjoy a film, then get caught they will chuck me out. That's it.. Consider that and think about proportional redress TV licensing will fuck you over for much less Say NO! Don't want it Don't need it Don't engage
Not had a TV Licence for 41 years, still haven't got one even though I'm eligible for the free one. Don't watch any live broadcast so why would i need one.
I had a tv license guy park up on my pad outside my front door once. I looked out the window and saw him writing on a clipboard. Then he drove off. Lol.
I wonder if he was type that was told to take job by the DWP, so he just sits in a van and write anything down, if you don't make too much commission I think they let you go.
So if you have a license for your home, and visit someone's home who hasn't a license, just in a visit, or baby sitting, are you saying that you're not covered, although you've got a license? Seems wrong to me!!
she could have been logged in, or had her details saved on her tv, from before she cancled her TV licence they can't prove that. someone logging in can not be in itself taken as proof that they have personally been using it.
Stop the licence. Stop the greed.🚫
The easiest way to decriminalise the TV Licence is to keep your door closed and never speak to them.
I agree, people must talk themselves in to the trap. Nothing good happens when people knock on the door. I did see a goon van about 4 years ago doing the rounds, one even stopped outside. I was hoping he would get out and knock, he never did.
@@andrewjames9996 Better still, just invest in a video doorbell, no need to open the door, just as I have. Simples. 👍
@@TheBrummie60 especially with the ant and dec greetings
@@davebax6819 😅
We should end ALL Capita contracts. They're vastly overpaid, the company execs are stealing as much of the license fee as they can get away with (under the guise of 'third party' tv shows that allegedly get made then never aired - the rule say the BBC doesn't have to publicize ANY data on these). MOST of the BBC license fee is literally being stolen by Capita (kickbacks to the BBC director general and the BBC board of directors) and the board/director general themselves.
Happy to say, I canceled my TV license years ago thanks to this channel and will never have one again. This story just enforces my decision.
Don't let them in. Don't talk to them. Shut the door
Oh yes, and Huw Edwards still walks the streets free.
Get rid of this mafia
I haven't seen them. They send letters to The Occupier or Resident (can't remember which), but I've not had anyone turn up for the 20 years I've not been paying.
GB 2024. It stinks. Enough said.
Day 4 of not paying for my tv licence, thanks for you're education and awareness on this matter,you've helped me a lot thanks mate ❤
🤣 Keeps you on your toes when the doorbell goes, when your not expecting it.
Year 12 for me & had a visit last Tuesday. I simply say Hello (he asked me if I lived here) & I admit I had a bit of a convo along the lines of "What's it to you?" to just waste his time, for a bit of fun, it was all recorded on the doorbell & to put his believed sense of authority into the gutter a lot.
Never let them in is the No 1 rule.
over 5 years here had one visit ignored them every letter thrown in dustbin
Indeed I havnt answered the door for years now don't even answer the phone to unknown numbers it's brilliant not a worry in the world stick to it it's dead easy 😁🏴👍
Ten years for me. Don’t miss broadcast tv one bit.
well done for seeing the light, dont forget if they knock just say no thanks and close door, ignore the letters .. licecnce free for 5 years now :o)
My husband has said to me from the day we got rid of.our licence, if they come round, do not engage with them. Shut the door without a single word.
People like to over complicate the TV Licence issue, threatening to sue for harassment etc and what to do. Its quite simple. You bin the letters, cos they are designed to wind you up - so you bite. And simply tell them to bugger off at the door.
Be careful not to put the Goon in fear of assault or violence or YOU could end up with a public order offence.
I stopped watching BBC and cancelled my license after the nonsense broadcasting during the pandemic.
Never looked back!
Single justice procedure should be banned.
Had one last week. "Sorry don't buy anything at the door" and closed it. They went away. Haven't had a licence for about 7 years.
I do have a no-cold callers sticker, it does not always always work to be honest. If it's a salesman or someone pretending to be a gardener type, the ones that travel in caravans. I say nothing but point to the sticker. Most times I don't answear the door.
Not paid mine for years, they sent a letter & email recently, asking me to let them know if I needed a TV license. I ignored both. Not getting a word or penny from me. Door shut
If you "needed" one 😅😅😅
3 letters in the last 4 weeks telling me they are going to visit. I got cakes and biscuit's in and nobody showed up, can I sue them for that?
I'm keeping all my letter's just in case in the future I can claim compensation for harassment.
@@royblackburn1163same here, 6 letters in 6 months, gonna wallpaper my living room with them!
Lmao, oh shit. 😂
Can I come round instead? Forgot to pick my biscuits up from Aldi today. To make you feel at home I could always write BBC on my shirt for ya.
They're missing out on the cakes and biscuits 😂
I stayed at a Premier Inn and so had a TV for first time in years and years. I couldnt believe what shite I was watching from breakfast TV to all of the repeats. There was NOTHING to watch. Glad I haven't had a licence since it went digital.
It's noticeable that the standard of the programmes/shows has plummeted while the technology has improved over the last few years.
I'm using a plasma panel that I bought in 2003. It still annoys me that I have to switch from analogue to the hdmi input every time I switch on - because the law in those days stipulated that an analogue tuner had to be built into any consumer video display device! Not only that: back then, everyone had to give their name & address when they bought "television" equipment from a store.
Now I use an Apple TV, connected to the same plasma panel and my sound system. I have apps for UA-cam, GB News, etc., on there. I'll be subscribing to Paramount+ for movies and entertainment this Christmas. It's cheaper than a TV licence, and easy to unsubscribe. I can also hire or buy movies just like in the good old days of Blockbuster! Lol.
@@englishciderlover7347 You can say that again, Freeview did have some good FTA sport on so did the BBC. They lost everything to Sky and BT, there was a lot less reality shows before the switchover went nationwide. ITV had a lot of FTA cricket but they didn't put much of a fight to retain the rights. Channel 5 had American sports and MMA.
Thank you for helping everyone by WARNING us about these monsters. I have a "no cold callers" & "no callers without a prior appointment ......and as tempting as it would be to shout at the f*ckers.......i will adhere to your advice ie i wont give my name and will demand tgey tell me who they are.....then it's an immediate no thank you and the door will get firmly closed and locked.
Thanks again.....keep up the good work.
If the bbc put this amount of effort in to finding alternative ways to fund themselves as they do hounding or prosecuting that dont have a tv license they would get on a lot better
Agreed. Trouble is most other funding models would require the BBC to be accountable for their output. With the Licence they are free to produce whatever pet and vanity projects they wish without having to justify themselves.
It would also help if they had shareholders, just as any other corporation does. The thought of accountability would concentrate the directors' minds wonderfully.
If they put this amount of effort into finding paedos in their organisation I might consider buying a licence, I would have to think very hard about it though.
Stories like this make TVL's monthly threatograms seem more frightening so TVL are not embarrassed by them: they are proud of them.
People have to be told, by NOT giving the licensing people your name you are NOT committing any offences, there is no offence of failing to give your name to TV licensing, it is as simple as that.
there ne no offence of failing to give your name anywhere and that's the police to most of the time well at least un till the option getting a lawyer seems like time? only this car? but most the time know you mane before stop your car anyway, so a bit point lest there
@@dh2032 Policing is different because they deal with ticket offences, recordable and indicatable offences, where you are required by law to give your name. TV licence goons have no such power. Black Belt Barrister has done a video for you to confirm.
I smell bulls**t. If that was the fact then how did she know her son logged into bbc I player. Did he tell her. It's not a conversation that would come up in normal conversation. Did TV Licence find out and said someone logged in. Is this fishing and she assumed he logged in. I doubt it. This could be a made up store to scare people
No harm to you but if I was watch match of the day with Big Ears Lineker, I would expect them to pay me for the Tramu.
Opted out is the default
He could have been a burglar, do not talk to them ,let alone, letting them in....
Be careful that the Goon does not have their fingers on the door frame when you slam it or they could be injured.
That's why I don't answer the door when I'm not expecting visitors.
They really piss me off too, watching your videos CJC clued me up, I never watched that crap anyway, but I thought i needed a tv license, they will “NEVER” get a penny from me ever again! Thank you so much CJC. I so love watching your videos, especially when you get really .fcuked off!
If they gave enough attention to weeding out all the weirdos they have had, instead of this, we would all be better off!
And stop paying ridiculous salaries to third rate presenters.
Maybe she should sue the manufacturers of the "Smart" TV for having the iplayer technology built in!
Totally agree with you chilli
Don't open the bloody door
How can TV licensing demand a TV license for watching a live streamed boxing match on Netflix?
Why is it anything to do with them?
That's a good point actually. I'm wanting to watch the Mike Tyson fight.
@racheljames7 News item today on GB News.
When did they demand? It's just empty threat letters containing gibberish
I saw a peeping Tom in my next-door neighbours garden but I warned him this is my patch
tv licence belongs back in the 70s. Its so outdated its hilarious
Even the Maffia isn't this criminal, and they are criminals.
Mafia respect the vulnerable of society, they just right amongst their own type.
I 100% support freedom from this time . all the very best
Never talk to the goons!
Had a goon knock on our door tonight. Told him I wasn't interested. He tried everything he could to keep me talking. I insisted that we don't watch TV and don't need to inform TVL that we don't need one.
She dropped herself in it, by talking. Trouble with woman they just talk and talk and talk, they don't know when to stop 😅
Don't start ladies I'm only kidding 😊 the moral of this joke is, do not engage with BBC sales personnel in anyway. My first year licence free, thanks Jon, Cheers all.🥂
Oh no your not you meant every word of that Peter. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@9matsui Oh not I didn't, Oh yes you did, Oh no I didn't, Well it's nearly panto season cheers 🥂
@@peterward3965
I make you right, only kidding………..
@@peterward3965 What Z lister is coming on the stage shortly?
They desparate for money to keep paying linekar and all the other reprabates that work there.
Don't forget Huw Edwards pension.
I refuse.
They’re worried that people will want to watch another useless Christmas & New Year schedule. Yes, that must be it.
@ I can think of much better wastes of time, like watching the white spot.
@@mygreatbigfoot1679 do they still display the test card and is that regarded as watching live TV 🤣
Surely if you don't have a contract (TV Licence) you've not consented to BBC Digital Services (or whatever they're called) sharing your personal data with TV Licencing? This must be a breach of GDPR and therefore reportable to the ICO..?
They only have your data if you give it to them
@MikeEves in order for TV Licencing to know you've used iplayer, the BBC must have told them someone logged into a particular account.
The thing about TV Licences is that under the law it comes under what is known as "ABSOLUTE LIABILITY". This is a legal concept where a person is held responsible for a crime without the need to prove fault, negligence, or criminal intent. In other words, saying my son was in hospital and I forgot to pay the licence is not a defence, as there is no defence under "Absolute liability". If you haven't got a TV Licence and you watch/record live TV or iPlayer then in the law you're guilty regardless of mitigating circumstances. No Sob story will get you out of a conviction. JUST SHUT THE DOOR if goons knock on it!!
By that logic then, every crime done by a BBC employee is the BBC fault and should be held liable too.
Sir Jimmy was not covered by this law.
I don't even open the letters anymore .letter box to bin
Was a women who came to my house when she asked to come in I said I have no idea who you are you could accuse me if anything go away .
The BBC are putting whole TV series of theirs on to youtube. Tv licensing say on their website you can only watch clips or shorts from the BBC on youtube. That can't be right surely?
Haven't a clue. Don't watch any of their bs lies. Do Not talk or watch their lies. 😢😢 Used to years ago, until I realised they were the disinformation channel.
I don't think they are, but some people might be illegally posting BBC content. The BBC post news, shorts and archive content.
The official BBC Earth Science UA-cam page has full on 50+ minute documentaries uploaded on there so how does that work if I’m watching official full length BBC produced documentaries that they’ve uploaded to UA-cam? Are they going to claim I need a TV licence in order to watch their programming they’ve officially uploaded for free to UA-cam?
@@gmo4250There’s full length documentaries uploaded on the official BBC Earth Science UA-cam page. Do I need a licence to watch their programming that they themselves have officially uploaded for free or has it been uploaded by them under “fair use”?
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The TV Licence is only applicable for BBC content on the BBC iPlayer. UA-cam, BBC website and indeed any other platform, a licence is not required for on demand content.
I like the BBC Archive channel on UA-cam, the channel you mentioned looks interesting, so thanks.
The visits sound more like mobsters going around getting people to pay protection money.
Keep getting the message out, that people have no legal requirement to give any details, or talk to TV licencing at all. DO NOT COMMUNICATE WITH THEM IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM! And, if by any chance you get a goon at your door, then it's "No, thank you" and close the door. Job's a gud un👍
About time the government scrapped the whole TV licence nonsense !
You scrap it yourself
Thanks for explaining my question Jon, "the homeowner" invited them in, maybe she hasn't heard your advice as yet. Thank you.
To avoid installing iPlayer set up TV using another country when selecting where it is. However this should not be necessary. Installing iPlayer by default is forced on equipment otherwise and ought not to be.
You would have to pay for a VPN to watch iPlayer
Had one of these pathetic creatures at my door last Thursday evening. I was downstairs making a cup of tea with the lights on! I just ignored the door and went about my business. I've now got four letters from TV Licensing. 10 Day Window! We did Not Hear From You! Will you Be In On October 30th?! Official Investigation Begun!
I have had hundreds of those letters, one was even signed in red ink not printed to make it official. He still didn't turn up.
Still haven't payed for a TV license in two years
Keep getting letters that go round in circles
The shredder is busy while I shred them
Still waiting for a knock on the door two years down the line
This really boils my piss too. A mother in hospital as her son is ill (who has enough stress to deal with) lets her nephew into her home. He's oblivious to the fact that she has a no licence needed declaration, signs into iPlayer on her telly to watch Match of the Day. She gets a random knock on the door from the goons, let's them into her home and she's landed herself in trouble. It is sickening.
Remember: The default is opted out, not opted in. You opt in by paying. Otherwise you are automatically out and there is no requirement to explain yourself or exempt yourself, despite what the BBC think or believe. They are nothing of importance.
People need to read up about the 12 presumptions of court.
Only 1 presumption needed, CORRUPT.
Don't bother, it's sovereign citizen nonsense.
This needs pinning
Over ten years license free. The goons need to pop by. They will enjoy my hospitality and a lovely cuppa tea.
Where do you get your tea from ?
@@brianlopez8855 Pureine 😂
What's worse chilli is that the person who was visiting could have had a TV licence at their home and it is absolutely transferable if someone is staying temporarily at your home. They cannot possibly hope to cancel that right. Similarly in a public space, anyone watching BBC on their own device is covered by their own home TV licence, regardless of the premises they are in.
Are we vicariously liable for everyone who comes into our property? If the plumber comes round, and watch some iPlayer on his phone, do we go to jail for that?
No The phone would have to be plugged into your mains. Anyone with a laptop would have to have it plugged into the mains. So long as it does not belong to you.
The last government did nothing about the BBC License fee, lets hope Reform can sort this unfair tax out
This is why I've blocked bbc streaming services from my DNS, so that even by acident that no one can use my internet to stream anything from bbc
What channels do we need a licence for?
Oh thank you so much, I never thought to do that. Never entered my head. And I built my own computer. it never dawned on me! Ffs. that’s brilliant. Thank you!🙏🏻
even if you use bbci etc just use a fake email address and details and vpn easy
not necessary...
I use BBC Sounds and that app shares a login with the BBC iPlayer on my smart TV. I cannot delete the app nor remove the account because it shares the account with BBC Sounds. Luckily no one in my household will use bbc iPlayer.
No licence needed. No name no correct email, just the address. Do not talk to them. If you watch the BBC pay the licence. If you don't do not pay it even if you watch other TV channels. You should not, but why should the BBC get money from you for watching ITV or channel four.
You do such a great job warning people of the BBCs practices and procedures.
Is there a way an individual could take them to court for the letters which are the equivalent of constant harassment and bullying?
Maybe a small claims court!?...file a complaint and claim compensation for their behaviour?!
you can't do that anonymously - they'll then know who you are and where you live 😉
Thanks
Hi, CJC 👍
Jon, if the nephew had a licence at his own residence isn't he covered to watch live TV in a place he is 'on holiday'.
One bit of advice for BBC iPlayer. If you registered before cancelling your licence make sure you delete auto login from TV Apps. Delete your password from the login field. That way, noone can accidently log in as they wont have the password.
BBX iPlayer will keep logs of logins, programs watched, tinme of day, etc. etc.
Question: Under Data Protection, do the T&C's allow them to pass on confidential info to TV Licensing?
No, having a licence for a property just allows you to watch live TV outside the property from a device running under its own power supply. If you had a caravan or boat, for instance, that had a TV connected to the battery (externally powered) you would need a _separate_ TV Licence for said property.
What's even more ridiculous is you can watch live TV on your smartphone anywhere you like if you have a licence and it's just running on its battery, but if you plugged your phone into the mains of someone else's property while watching live TV from it then _they_ need a TV Licence.
efing disgusting but a simple solution, everyone make a small sacrifice and stops watching TV and cancels their TV licence. Within 3 months, TV licences will be abolished. The BBC or "British Bollox Corporation" will either go commercial or cease to exist. Problem solved !
Imagine getting married, buying a house, working hard, conceiving a child, having your wife go through labour, raising the child for 18 years, setting them free into the world, only for them to tell you they're a TV licence enforcement officer 😶
If you cannot afford a tv licence then you cannot afford the fine they give you for not having one. STOP PAYING FOR THE LICENCE NOW EVERYONE.
It’s disgraceful on an industrial scale! If these goons weren’t on commission they’d have less of an incentive to get involved. Any job we’re staff are commissioned they will have a bee in there bonnet to get get get, and they won’t let anything, like a sick child, get in their way.
Iv gone 5 years without paying a TV licence and never intend to ever buy one .
Hi Jon Just had a visit from a gas and electric meter reader .He wanted to hand me a letter from bbc/capita , i said no thank you he then said that he was sorry to call but the deliveries are now part of his job and that he hated this part of his job . He then thanked me for being polite to him ,and left with the letter .
It winds me up too, imagine how wound up we will all be if they incorporate the licence fee into council tax payments.
Something was said there I wasn’t aware of - that you cannot remove the iplayer icon from your smart TV. This seems wrong if you need a license to use it. If you can’t remove it, then I think you should only be able to access it in the same way, in that you need to be a subscriber, to Now TV, or Netflix. It really seems the BBC want to be able to fine you for the revenue.
TV licensing Bailiffs are like bad colds wait then it goes away
Have you seen the new ring door bell smart messages for doorbell rings? One is Ant and Dec saying "Sorry we are too busy watching telly"....now thats a good one
Basically they entered or bullied their way into her house with a child in .
The court don't care about that sadly. However, salesman only enter when they are told to.
IF YOU DON'T need to pay the damned TV TAX >>> MAKE SURE your TV IS NOT viewable from an exterior window! A neighbour of mine had a Dismally DVD on for his kids, got a visit from the goons and they saw his TV from his Kitchen window, and even though he did the "No thanks" and shut the door, HE WAS DRAGGED TO COURT for 'Watching live TV' and it... WAS DOWN TO HIM TO PROVE it was a DVD and that he DOSN'T need to pay TV TAX!!!... Yeah, sure, he won, but the stress he and his family went through was insane! So, curtains, blinds or just MOVE the damn thing, those devious, vile BASTIDS WILL TRY to have you.... 🤨😡
Whenever they knock (or anyone for that matter) I open the top window...as soon as they say TV Licensing just go "nope, registered as not needed, goodbye" since re-registering it's not required back in March I've had 3 visits, must be due another one soon!
I don't answer the door to people I don't know I've put a sign on there stating by appointment only.
Unfortunately the BBC do check the email address whilst you use player, and will check when and what you watch.
It is in the small print, I knew a few lads from work who have silly email addresses and use commercial business addresses for their BBC accounts watch Iplayer,
We received a hand delivered letter from TV Licensing claiming we didn't have a TV Licence. We sent them an email with an attachment showing our TV Licence. Never got an apology back from TV Licensing regarding their accusation.
I would appeal it
Decriminalisation is definitely not a good idea. Involving bailiffs for example.
indeed... keep it criminal then it shows for how ridiculous it is.
So what would stop her from logging into her own iPlayer account on a mobile device whilst in a house that IS covered by a licence? Would they still come to the door and accuse her of watching without a licence?
She also has a child, did she ask the goon if he had a current eDBS id card as well that was valid for her area before letting him in? If these people are sent out to addresses where (possibly) vulnerable people live then they need to be getting enhanced database & barring service checks done for each and every county/ward they visit.
A DBS doesn't actually work on area by area basis. Once you've got one you're free to use it wherever your employer sends you.
@@gypsygem9395 Wrong! Years ago when it was CRB (before DBS) I worked around Cambridge driving school bus contracts, I needed 3 separate CRBs for the areas we covered.
Now I drive a taxi running school contracts and for the area I cover now I have 3 again, Cheshire West & Chester, Cheshire East and North Cheshire. All three needed to be completed (and paid for) as each ward wouldn't recognise the ones I already had.
So, yes they DO work on an area by area basi, it's NOT 'one DBS covers everywhere'
Just a question, but if the nephew logged into iPlayer, did he use his own account? If so, there should be no case to answer... surely?
*EDIT*
So the property where iPlayer is accessed must be covered by a TV licence, even if, as in this case, someone logged in with their own details. This is crazy!
From my understanding, one can use their own licence at a different address if, and only if, no one is watching live TV/BBC at the address the licence is for. At least that's how it used to be
I see from the schedules that 'call my bluff' is being repeated. This particular series was first aired when I was 7yo.
60 years ago!
Dad's Army recently on prime time Saturdays.
We paid a TV licence for the privilege back then and precisely why I don't watch it now!
You are doing a great job Mr AdHd58
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How would it stand if someone visits your house who has a TV licence Nd uses iPlayer on their mobile. (Which they can do legally on battery power) But they then cast it to the smart TV. Technically where does it stand. The data is being sent to a correctly licensed battery powered mobile device but the picture is shown on the TV?
What a double irony. The dreadful Gary Lineker would have appeared on her TV
I know you say to just say "No thank you" but I enjoy wasting as much of their time as possible, I do the same to scam calls... Will play along as long as I can lol.
We need to stay following the gonna back to their cars, taking now off their registration plates and reporting them to police for not having business insurance on their car insurance because they are not covered by social, domestic, pleasure and commuting. If just eat delivery drivers need business car insurance then goons also need one.
She shouldn't have told them anything. I guess some people have to learn the hard way.
When the TV licensing detector van was coming down our street my parents would turn off the telly draw the curtains turn off the lights and hide behind the sofa .
I cancelled my license in the summer over the last few weeks I've had 2 email saying I've been watching IPlayer at 2.04 in the afternoon. Not true at both these times we were at Sheffield western park cancer hospital with our daughter only the dog was at home and at the minute we don't need all this stress 😢
I sent a remove right of access letter to the TV license people, I've not heard from them in years.
Criminal convictions for accessing entertainment!
If I sneak into my local cinema and enjoy a film, then get caught they will chuck me out. That's it..
Consider that and think about proportional redress
TV licensing will fuck you over for much less
Say NO!
Don't want it
Don't need it
Don't engage
Not had a TV Licence for 41 years, still haven't got one even though I'm eligible for the free one.
Don't watch any live broadcast so why would i need one.
And here's me thinking I was doing well with a 24 year run. 🤣
And even if you did, it wouldn't matter
@MikeEves ?????
I've stopped seeing notifications about your videos... even though I am subscribed
100% Agree.
I had a tv license guy park up on my pad outside my front door once. I looked out the window and saw him writing on a clipboard. Then he drove off. Lol.
I wonder if he was type that was told to take job by the DWP, so he just sits in a van and write anything down, if you don't make too much commission I think they let you go.
She was a "people pleaser"!
So if you have a license for your home, and visit someone's home who hasn't a license, just in a visit, or baby sitting, are you saying that you're not covered, although you've got a license? Seems wrong to me!!
Negligent journalist; didn't give us the value of her house or the make & model of her car.
She never watched live TV so why must she be blamed?
she could have been logged in, or had her details saved on her tv, from before she cancled her TV licence they can't prove that.
someone logging in can not be in itself taken as proof that they have personally been using it.
Love the videos mate, keep it up pal ❤