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Personally I keep them talking as long as possible so they cant spend that time harrassing someone less able to cope with it. 48 minutes is my record so far.
I do that with have you had an accident phone calls. Cover loss of fingers ears legs horrific accident told them can't claim ect eventually I tell them I died twice and still not recovered about 30 minutes . Brill's fun
Personally, when they say "you haven't got a TV licence" I'd be inclined to say "I haven't got a fishing licence or a firearms licence either, but I don't get people coming to my door to sell me those".
I still love the story about the guy who had a Goon come to his door, The Goon says "You don't have a license at this address sir" The guy replies, "I don't watch TV". The Goon then points to the guys roof and says, "but you have an ariel there sir", the guy replies, "I've got milk in my fridge but it doesn't mean I'm keeping a fking cow!"
put a projector onto the front wall streaming netflix 24/7 see if they get the hint lolreally rub it in no licence wanted or required netflix staff welcome
The British Bollocks commission is a sinking ship and they know it. There just trying to steal as much money as they can before it sinks beneath the waves
@Charles Spencer they have to prove a letter thats NOT recorded delivery was in fact put through your letterbox , of course they can only prove it was mailed out at best and of course there is a lot of morons between their processing centre and your front door
Its sickened me to the stomach when the guy read out the rights to the home owner. Its a sheer intimidation tactic. If he said that to a poor frightened old lady she would have a heart attack. Im a fairly tolerant individual, but a bully is one thing I won't accept!!
Unfortunately you might feel sickened to the stomach, but pussies like you do feel that way. The goon is obliged by law to caution you, as anything you say beyond that point might be used in evidence against you. It is done not to intimidate you, but to ensure you understand that the goon is looking to commence proceedings against you. If the goon does not read out your rights, then anything you say cannot be used against you. Too many people on this side are clueless about how to deal with the situation, ideally do not open the door, but if you do, then once the goon has identified their self, then say I do not require a licence and immediately shut the door. If you are acting within the law, then you have no worry, if you are trying to 'cheat' the system, then you risk a clever goon sorting you out (for example, leaving TV Times, or a folded newspaper open at the TV page inside your dustbin).
@@PsychicLord Do these clowns legally have the right to interview under caution?? If it is a one on one situation the goon could fabricate evidence against you. If you are interviewed under caution by Police there will always be two officers present. These goons are salespeople who want your money.
If everyone just closed the door when these people come, they basically no longer have a job. They probably scrape by at the moment with the people that trip themselves up.
He is NOT a legally recognised Inspector as any TV Licence Goons don't have any Statutory Rights of Entry Powers whatsoever, as like do employees of Local Authorities, Gas Water and Electricity who have to unless otherwise within any Emergency situations have to give at least 24 to 48 hours notice prior to them turning up to inspect their provided Services. TV Goons also have NO Legal Rights to caution you about anything.
They are not officers how can they get a warrant to enter your property when all. They are salesmen from Capita which is an outsourcing company they have no legal powers so how can they read you your rights.They are not officers they are civilians I cancelled my TV licence because of the nonces employed by the BBC which they knew about try knocking on my door and I will knock you out I dare you 😂
Can you do a video showing the decrease in TV licenses over the past X number of years? If the data isn't available perhaps submit a freedom of information request to the BBC?
You're 100% correct all you have to do is close the door, but no one can deny the entertainment value of winding these muppets up.. but yes, there is a risk of being tripped up
It's also tempting to wind up telephone scammers......DONT! If you have caller I d and don't recognise the number,ignore the call. Otherwise just answer with a polite hello and wait to hear who it is. If they start asking questions HANG UP! If they are genuine they should start by announcing who they are.
Apparently my " property is now under investigation " . Amusing really as my property is an inanimate object with no discernible interest in watching television , live or otherwise .
In February one of their many letters told me my property had been scheduled for a visit. It's now early August. I'm assuming they have got badly lost on the way.
The longer you talk them round in circles, the less time they'll have to intimidate the old lady next door. I've been locked down for what seems like forever, and I look forward to hawkers and cold callers because that's the longest conversation I might have in a week. I love keeping them on my doorstep and telling them all about my aches & pains. Especially since I don't have any. PHUKM.
Just call the number on the TV licence letter and tell them you no longer need a licence. Then if an inspector turns up, just say 'no thanks' and close the door.
My partner kept getting threatening letters from the goons. She was worried until I showed her your informative video now we both laugh about it. Good stuff 👏
I can see how some will be tempted to goad a Crapita employee and some of them probably deserve to be goaded. Most, however, are simply employed in a rotten job and trying to make a living. Saying "no thanks" and shutting the door is the best way to deal with them. Thanks for the video; the "Goon of Goons" one was a new one on me.
I would ask the TV license inspector a question. The question is , have you got business insurance for your car. I bet most of them don’t have it. That’s a far worse crime than having no TV license.
For people who are confident enough to speak to the TV licencing without giving up any useful info I think its good to keep them at the door, wasting their time and causing as much disruption/frustration to the licencing agent as possible. The longer they are getting their ears pulled at that door the less time they have at a more susceptible house. Obviously those that aren't as confident should shut the door or just dont open it in the first place.
I don't open the door unless I'm expecting a parcel from amazon, I hate door to door sales people and more so for TV licencing cuz at least with a charity if I don't pay I'm not gonna get threatening letters etc
Wouldn't it just be easier for the BBC to pay its own way. It's actually a shame for other live TV channels that they loose customers because one network has a stranglehold over everything.
It's even more ridiculous that they claim money for this Licence to watch ALL other transmitted TV channels that are nothing to do with the BBC - yet give not a penny to any of them!!!
The first question a goon usually asks is "are you the occupier of the house" it's not until you confirm that you are will they tell you they are from TV tax. last time I just closed the door when I seen his little cash machine and his black handbag under his arm they all carry with them. Next time they knock and ask if I'm the occupier I'm going to say no, I'm the next door neighbour I just nip around to answer the door for them then close the door lol
I slapped tv licencing with a WOIRA about ten years ago and havnt had any letters or knocks at the door since, they did send a tv detector van to sit outside my house about a week after i did that but when i went out to confront the driver he wound up his window and left the estate very quickly much to my amusement.
I've been looking through the comments for someone else as confused as me! What the fuck is a tv license?! What the fuck are tv licensing goons?!?! Is this just a British thing?? I seriously don't understand lol
Wouldn't that be illegal for that TV licence goon to read that man's right being he is not an officer of the law & would it be impersonating an officer?
I think most people just carry on talking to them as they want to wind them up...and when they've left the property they go back into the house and carry on watching live TV!
Unfortunately it is so tempting to open up on these hateful people, but as chilly tells us, shut the door. I made my declaration have have my reference number but still expect a visit from these thuggish tax collectors, I do not watch live tv, its YT or Netflix or prime. NEVER EVER the bbc claptrap or any other live broadcast !
Not paid for 15 years now (approximately £2000 saved!). Like you say John, it can be intimidating if dialogue ensues. Shut that door folks immediately ! Job done. If you happen to be watching telly without a license, just make sure they can’t see it through the window.
Alright team. So! After ingnoring all the letters, got a new one yesterday sounding like we are going back to square one. Do not engage! That's my experience and I encourage everyone to do the same
there is something that happens in human head when some random stranger accuses of doing something wrong in their private home and demands payment and threatens without any evidence that said wrongdoing occured. Confusion fear adrenalin and doubt swirling all together. I think it is called congnitive dissonance or maybe somebody can correct me.
For some, bringing suffering and frustration to those who do it to others is a satisfying hobby. It's called "trolling". To troll a troll is god's work, and theres a lot of work to be done in this world.
Cancelled my tv licence almost 2 weeks ago. Just got my no licence needed comfirmation in the post. Thank you for the information. You are very informative. Thank you.
Keep their 'confirmation'. Mine said that I would receive no further communication for 2 years. I got the first (semi) threatening letter one year later. But I never did get a visit.
have no further communication ever again with them. That's the way to do it.. Don't renew the "No Licence needed" notice.. If they do send out a goon.. don't bother opening the door just say"GO AWAY, I'M NOT INTERESTED" from behind your locked door leave them outside.. They'll go bother some other mug.
@@shanefunnell542 Mine reads: "NO TV Licensing or Sales people or Agents Thank You". Mines also laminated. When I move I'll get a video doorbell installed too..
I've been getting letters for about 5 years now saying I'm under investigation and an inspector will pay me a visit. Wish they would hurry the fck up already.
Would be same in USA mate BBC America is free but we pay for all the shows for them to watch Free, would love to see them knock on a Blood members door WoW lol
@@yorkshirepud6676 I think most forms of BBCAmerica come as part of a cable bundle that is not free. not that they choose the package because of BBCAm.
I was there for 1st time 2 years back for the 12th, the estates the night before were actually intimidating!! Every second person drove a drug dealers range rover. Class.
@@yorkshirepud6676 the American BBC has ads so that it can be free. Don't know why ours doesn't get with the times and put some ads on and scrap the licence fee xx
I agree with you mate shut the door but for a laugh I did tell them I'd mental health issues n go bonkers if he didn't leave me alone never heard a word since 🤣🤣🤣
@roger robinson was funny just heading out they were there n said do u live here n i blurted out I've got mental health issues due to lose the plot n he said ok we'll put u off the list i thought result n whatever no chance I'm paying the paedo licence or not losing the plot 👌
I've got a simple solution for dealing with licence goons and that is to get a doorbell camera - like ring or similar - and connect to your wifi. Then these individuals have no choice to be filmed and can't intimidate very well from talking to someone behind a closed door. It'll be cool to see more user uploaded video reviews soon.
It's actually painful listening to these people try and sound intelligent talking about implied rights of access and acts of parliament not being law. They would be in for the shock of their lives if they ever tried to argue it in a court room. An intelligent person would just accept that this organization are never going to stop sending people as they feel they are doing a 'public service' making sure everyone is paying their TV license. Listen to ChilliJon and just shut the door in their face asap. Saves your time and wastes theirs, perfect.
@Stevean2 what an idea 💡 imagine if you had to have a console licence then and every game that was bought was subject to a licence fee and you won't be able to avoid it because every game you buy no matter where it will be Amazon eBay it will automatically have this fee added ha
Just put up a notice outside your door that reads "No soliciting, religious groups or TV Licence Inspectors. If you want to ring the bell and speak to me, I charge £100 per minute. If you agree to these terms then please proceed and ring the bell"
I live in one of the rougher areas in my town and these goons stopped coming here years ago nobody pays the license fee here and parents encouraged all the local kids to move them on after about a year they stopped coming all together.
I'd talk to them, I don't even use the TV, there's absolutely no evidence they can get. I'll just waste their time as long as they're willing to waste it so they aren't harassing anyone else, get myself a couple laughs out of it too.
From time to time I watch these TV Licence Inspector interaction videos on UA-cam, also interactions with police officers and other officials by "First Amendment Auditors" and subjects of traffic stops. There seems to be a great desire in human nature to win arguments, but it's so much simpler (and more effective) to say nothing.
Agree, but it can be a bit difficult for most people to say nothing at all - human nature. The trick is, of course, just to close the door before any meaningful conversation ensues - like shorthand for the Foreign Office, for example...
Thanks to you Jon I stopped paying for something i didnt need. I evaluated how much TV I watched in a week....sometimes it never even went on. I was paying for something i didnt use. It took your vids to open my eyes. I dont have a sneeky look either out of principle.....TV is full of doom and gloom anyway. Stuff the TV licence and BBC. Thanks Jon....but i wish my Dad would follow suit....at 86 he wont....heyho Im not paying so thats a start.
If the inspectors are nice about it / accept what you say and walk off, I don't have a problem. When they start making demands, they deserve all the aggro they get. Personally I will just say "sorry I don't watch TV" and close the door on them.
What they don’t realise too is that it’s a volume game of averages. If only 10% of people they talk to buy a licence, they’d be better off moving onto the next house as soon as they’re sent on their way. Spending time arguing and intimidating reduces volume.
Excellent. I am spreading the word and have recommended your channel. Most people still believe these goons have some sort of official status and power. They quote instances of people being thrown into prison and, of course, they're frightened witless of the dreaded TV licensing vans. I attempt to remonstrate, and truth to tell, I've yet to meet someone who's in favour of the TV licence. They are often shocked when they find out they have to have a license to watch ANY live broadcast, not just the vile BBC.
"Why are they talking to them?" It's fun for some people and they are confident they can handle it. I wouldn't, I'm a busy man I've got UA-cam to watch and stuff.
Hi, just came across your channel. I have just cancelled my licence and was wondering how to deal with a visit. Thank you so much for your advice and pointing out our rights. I feel better now. I just worry about older people, who could be very intimidated, especially the guy who read rights to the guy. Thank you so much. ❤️
Hi Jon, You have convinced me that this is the right thing to do in my circumstances. I have cancelled my licence from August 2021. As you read letters from supporters, please could you show your supporters the correct way to fill in the BBC letter with your details blanked as you have done previously with letters you have used. I am a big Supporter of yours and wish too do this legally with no come backs. Many Thanks Dave
This problem has rumbled on for years and will probably not change until the British Biased Corporations charter is due for renewal! Disgraceful behaviour 😤 😑!
I don't go fishing so I don't buy a fishing licence, I don't own a gun so I don't buy a gun licence so why do these goons expect me to buy a tv licence when I don't watch live tv?
I agree they shouldn't be a TV licence in this day and age I think we are going about things the wrong way the argument should be just get rid of the BBC and if they are elements create content out of it, it can be completely commercial as long as the BBC exists there will always be after getting money from the public.
IMO the BBC is something Britain should be proud of, and it should be funded via the public to ensure impartiality, but funding it via income taxes would be fairer and more efficient than through TV licences.
@@clarkeysam No thanks. I don’t watch them so I shouldn’t be charged. Remove them or put a block on them so you can’t watch it without a license. No one will miss it.
Loved that third goon!! What a complete idiot! I can’t wait for them to come round my house, hello who are you “tv licensing” me “do you see that gate at the end of my drive, don’t let it hit you on the way out” 😂😂😂
The removal of the implied right of access relates to the fact that people are generally allowed to come onto your property and knock on your door. If you remove that right, the TV licensing goon is now automatically a trespasser. That said, the moment you inform them of that, they need to leave straight away, so I don't know why they have hung around here.
I had another letter from them that comes in a red envelope, of course it went in the bin. Its about time they stopped contributing to the decline of the trees.
I agree with the advice of answer the door, ask who the person is, when they say TV Licensing simply say “no thank you” and close the door. Nice and polite. Where I think some people try to enter a conversation and be more objectionable, is because this visit will have been preceded by a large number of deliberately threatening letters. And of course it makes for good UA-cam. The one to review is those few Search Warrants. Where the choice of the person in the home is taken away. Here there needs to be a more considered plan of action. 1. If they turn up with a search warrant, normally accompanied by the police, let them in immediately. 2. Start video recording. Say nothing 3. If they ask your name, ask specifically “Am I obliged to answer your questions?” “Am I under arrest?” Are you going to read me my rights?” 4. Usually now they will read you your rights. From now on state “I have the right to remain silent”. 5. If the police intervene, ask them politely not to get involved, state to them that they are only in attendance to prevent a breach of the peace. Advise them not to assist TVL in any way, and that you are recording the proceedings. 6. Identify where the TV is and show them the TV remote controls. 7. If they start to examine computer equipment, laptops, tablets etc state “Under the Communications Act 2003, amended in 2004, computers are not considered TV equipment and you do not have the right to inspect computers, please desist from touching these things”. If they continue, state, “I believe you are acting outside the remit of your search warrant, stop now or I will bring about legal proceedings against you” 8. They may imply that not giving them your name or signing their form you are obstructing. In which case state “As you have cautioned me and I have the right to say nothing, that in order to proceed with your questions I require for you to appoint me a solicitor, as I am uncomfortable with not now knowing my legal rights, as either I have the right to remain silent or I don’t” If the police start to get involved repeat point 5 above, nice and politely. 9. If they start to turn on the TV, remind them that this address does not have a TV licence, so if they enable a live TV picture to appear, they are causing an offence to be committed. It is not an offence to have equipment capable of watching live TV only the act of watching it or BBC iPlayer requires a licence. 10. Don’t ask them to leave, simply invoke your rights, control the police (who often don’t understand the law and misinterpret their role), and allow the search warrant visit to naturally end. Don’t sign paperwork, don’t threaten and remain calm. Do not swear or raise your voice, that is what they want to happen, so the police can bring about obstruction charges. In the end, most convictions for watching TV without a licence are because the occupant admitted the offence or signed the TVL form. Without those things, they have no case to bring. A video record of the search warrant is vital, it gives TVL warning that misconduct won’t be tolerated. The police are just bystanders in these scenarios. If you don’t admit to watching TV without a licence, they would have to produce evidence that you did, or commit perjury by saying they saw you watch live TV. Thankfully search warrants are very rare, almost impossible in Scotland, and the BBC really don’t want to use them cause of the bad publicity. But if one happens, please stay quiet and remain calm.
a lot of this was about not what to do when you get a knock ,your comments did highlight this ! personally i think the less you say the better if you ring them to cancel as i did they already know your reasons , i would ask who they are, which is perfectly normal with a stranger on your property , say i don't need a TV licence don't engage them no matter what they are saying , finish with thank you followed by closing your door , no stress job done .
Exactly, my front has a security camera pointing at the door and property, but even if they call I would just say the same, who are you ?? Sorry don't need one goodbye. Door shut. Simples. Thanks Chili great vid.
@@mauriceosullivan6832 a relative used to ask why I always asked who was knocking at my door before opening it but its common sense. I once had a friend round and person made out was coming to read the gas meter so I shouted to my friend who was knocking and when I turned round the guy had vanished! Turns out gas meter wasn't due to be read and I dread to think what would have happened is my friend hadn't been there.
The best thing is these videos is that it degrades the job of being a tv license inspector. Being a postie over the past few weeks there has been a MASSIVE increase in the new red envelopes especially with the gradual relaxation of lockdown rules
Removing their implied rights of access is not to stop them entering your house it is to stop them passing the threshold of your property.. I've had two of them arrested for trespass for being on my property after having their implied rights removed
I doubt you did, trespass is not a criminal offence. Trespass is civil and doesn’t concern the police so no arrests can be made unless criminal damage is being done.
Correct. TRESPASS on its own is a Civil matter but Tresspass with Criminal Damage (to your property) or Trespass with a Threat of or Actual Violence is a Police matter.
@@PELTY100 So, if you caught someone on camera snooping around your property and clearly casing the joint, provided there was no damage, they could use the implied rights of access law to get away with it?
I have to point out that anyone acting on behalf of an enforcement agency (e.g DVLA, TV, local authority etc.) MUST caution you (caution same one as the police use) if they believe you may have committed a criminal offence. It is just a warning that whatever you say may (aka WILL) be used against you. This is exactly why you should say nothing.
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I film all my goons visits. I don’t put them up on public tho.
Please do more of these.
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@@seanphillips9007 Ignore all their intimidatory letters and, should a Capita salesflunckey turn up, follow CJC’s advice in this video precisely!
Hi, I've just cancelled my direct debit for licence is this a good way ??
Personally I keep them talking as long as possible so they cant spend that time harrassing someone less able to cope with it. 48 minutes is my record so far.
Brilliant!
I hadn't thought about it like that
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I do that with Jehovah Witnesses. Make them walk away and you can laugh at them.
I do that with have you had an accident phone calls. Cover loss of fingers ears legs horrific accident told them can't claim ect eventually I tell them I died twice and still not recovered about 30 minutes . Brill's fun
Personally, when they say "you haven't got a TV licence" I'd be inclined to say "I haven't got a fishing licence or a firearms licence either, but I don't get people coming to my door to sell me those".
Exactly what I do too.. the look on their faces are priceless
They’ll claim you’re threatening them with a firearm and “pretend” to mishear
Love that
Great
That's a good point! Never thought of it like that!
I still love the story about the guy who had a Goon come to his door, The Goon says "You don't have a license at this address sir" The guy replies, "I don't watch TV". The Goon then points to the guys roof and says, "but you have an ariel there sir", the guy replies, "I've got milk in my fridge but it doesn't mean I'm keeping a fking cow!"
Nice one 👍😂
😂😂😂
I love that 🤣🤣🤣
Mite have to use that statement lol
Love your COMMENT made me laugh,ABSOLUTELY Priceline, CHEERS.
The writing is on the wall for the BBC but the paint has yet to dry.
put a projector onto the front wall streaming netflix 24/7 see if they get the hint lolreally rub it in no licence wanted or required netflix staff welcome
The British Bollocks commission is a sinking ship and they know it. There just trying to steal as much money as they can before it sinks beneath the waves
*Knock at the door*
Me: *Hi, who are you?*
Agent: *TV licence*
Me: *No thank you*
*Shut door in agent's face*
This is the best way to do it. Even better, get a video doorbell, and answer them on your phone
I would leave out the 'No thank you' bit.
@@um8778 8
Exactly what I did
Easy as that.
I've seen all these videos. As Larry Grayson used to say, 'shut that door'!
Or ignore the knock!
better yet don't open the door in the first place..
Nice one Martin 👍
It might be Everard knocking lol
I cancelled my direct debit as soon as I started watching your channel because I only watch UA-cam Netflix anyway
Thanks chilli
As Clint Eastwood said in a recent movie I saw
*Get off my porch*
I think he was holding a shotgun at the time.
Bin all letters & ignore them completely. As the famous song went....Silence is Golden. You win, they lose. JOB DONE.
I prefer sound of silence
@Charles Spencer Complete bollocks. All I've said above works. Sending letters back makes your address live. Experience is knowledge.
@Charles Spencer how the hell can they take the occupier as they have no name to the address to court bin the letters as you would junk mail
@Charles Spencer absolute nonsense
@Charles Spencer they have to prove a letter thats NOT recorded delivery was in fact put through your letterbox , of course they can only prove it was mailed out at best and of course there is a lot of morons between their processing centre and your front door
I think if they ever visit me, I will just stand there staring at them silently, dribbling.
Beautiful.. mouth gaping too I hope..
Don't forget to rock back and forth. 🤣
Aaahahaha! That comment reminded me of my Dad. :P Miss you Dad!!
Is mooning prohibited?
@@happychappy7115 that depends how brave you are. Or what you can take lmao!
As soon as you shut the door their investigation ends there....
This has been my point for years. Why on earth do they insist on standing there, arguing? Absolutely no point.
Great video.
Not had a TV licence since I moved out from home when I was 18. I'm 48 now...
Its sickened me to the stomach when the guy read out the rights to the home owner. Its a sheer intimidation tactic. If he said that to a poor frightened old lady she would have a heart attack. Im a fairly tolerant individual, but a bully is one thing I won't accept!!
Unfortunately you might feel sickened to the stomach, but pussies like you do feel that way. The goon is obliged by law to caution you, as anything you say beyond that point might be used in evidence against you. It is done not to intimidate you, but to ensure you understand that the goon is looking to commence proceedings against you. If the goon does not read out your rights, then anything you say cannot be used against you.
Too many people on this side are clueless about how to deal with the situation, ideally do not open the door, but if you do, then once the goon has identified their self, then say I do not require a licence and immediately shut the door. If you are acting within the law, then you have no worry, if you are trying to 'cheat' the system, then you risk a clever goon sorting you out (for example, leaving TV Times, or a folded newspaper open at the TV page inside your dustbin).
@@PsychicLord Do these clowns legally have the right to interview under caution?? If it is a one on one situation the goon could fabricate evidence against you. If you are interviewed under caution by Police there will always be two officers present.
These goons are salespeople who want your money.
@@PsychicLord I've never read so much nonsense in my entire life.
@@THEJR-of5tf no, they have no authority and everything they say you've said is "hear-say" and is not evidence that could be relied on whatsoever
@@PsychicLord why call her "pussy" she's entitled to her opinion. Just showed yourself up there
If everyone just closed the door when these people come, they basically no longer have a job. They probably scrape by at the moment with the people that trip themselves up.
better yet don't open the door in the first place to TVL twats.
I just closed the door like I do with anybody I don't want at the door like the god squad for example
Then they wouldnt be able to pay their tv licence...so we can all go round and bash on his door. Lol.
They prob make plenty still off the elderly that they intimidate xx
Trying to read the guy his rights the inspector thinks he's a cop 😂
He is NOT a legally recognised Inspector as any TV Licence Goons don't have any Statutory Rights of Entry Powers whatsoever, as like do employees of Local Authorities, Gas Water and Electricity who have to unless otherwise within any Emergency situations have to give at least 24 to 48 hours notice prior to them turning up to inspect their provided Services.
TV Goons also have NO Legal Rights to caution you about anything.
They are door to door salespeople, nothing more, nothing less. Would you stand there debating with someone trying to sell binbags to you at the door?
They are not officers how can they get a warrant to enter your property when all. They are salesmen from Capita which is an outsourcing company they have no legal powers so how can they read you your rights.They are not officers they are civilians I cancelled my TV licence because of the nonces employed by the BBC which they knew about try knocking on my door and I will knock you out I dare you 😂
@@neilfoster814only if I needed a binbag license
Definitely interesting videos, If one calls at my house it will be a quick "Hello - Goodbye" door shut.
LOL HE TRIED ARRESTING HIM that's actually hilarious. Isn't it a crime to impersonate an officer?
Can you do a video showing the decrease in TV licenses over the past X number of years? If the data isn't available perhaps submit a freedom of information request to the BBC?
You're 100% correct all you have to do is close the door, but no one can deny the entertainment value of winding these muppets up.. but yes, there is a risk of being tripped up
It's also tempting to wind up telephone scammers......DONT! If you have caller I d and don't recognise the number,ignore the call. Otherwise just answer with a polite hello and wait to hear who it is. If they start asking questions HANG UP! If they are genuine they should start by announcing who they are.
First rate video. No fluff, simple honest guidance. Absolute excellence. This video will stand the test of time.
Apparently my " property is now under investigation " . Amusing really as my property is an inanimate object with no discernible interest in watching television , live or otherwise .
Paul Jackson. Be careful, they could interview your property under caution. Your house could say something to incriminate you.
Mine too😂😂😂😂
In February one of their many letters told me my property had been scheduled for a visit. It's now early August. I'm assuming they have got badly lost on the way.
bucket of cold water from above. just watering my window box plants officer
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Make it yellow water!!
No water needed. A closed door is the best response.
@@markhorton2920 Nah, they`re taking the piss.....give them some of yours.
The last bird had great knockers - I might have invited her in.
The longer you talk them round in circles, the less time they'll have to intimidate the old lady next door.
I've been locked down for what seems like forever, and I look forward to hawkers and cold callers because that's the longest conversation I might have in a week. I love keeping them on my doorstep and telling them all about my aches & pains. Especially since I don't have any.
PHUKM.
Hahahaha funny!
Epic!
@@yorkshirepud6676
ABSOLUTELY.
Just call the number on the TV licence letter and tell them you no longer need a licence. Then if an inspector turns up, just say 'no thanks' and close the door.
Agent: “do you have a TV license?”
Me: “No. I don’t facilitate in the funding of pedophiles! “ proceeds to close the door
Too much info. Just close the door
Nor constant race-baiting
My pal said hes not funding a peado ring 😂 I just slam the door shut in there faces.
Didn't you just say you watch the BBC? As how would you k ow about this? Now you're giving resanable doubt to the tv inspector, just saying
@@MYBIGKINDHEART don’t need to watch it to know that. Just need to know about the statues outside the building ffs.
My partner kept getting threatening letters from the goons. She was worried until I showed her your informative video now we both laugh about it. Good stuff 👏
I can see how some will be tempted to goad a Crapita employee and some of them probably deserve to be goaded. Most, however, are simply employed in a rotten job and trying to make a living. Saying "no thanks" and shutting the door is the best way to deal with them. Thanks for the video; the "Goon of Goons" one was a new one on me.
I would ask the TV license inspector a question.
The question is , have you got business insurance for your car. I bet most of them don’t have it.
That’s a far worse crime than having no TV license.
For people who are confident enough to speak to the TV licencing without giving up any useful info I think its good to keep them at the door, wasting their time and causing as much disruption/frustration to the licencing agent as possible. The longer they are getting their ears pulled at that door the less time they have at a more susceptible house. Obviously those that aren't as confident should shut the door or just dont open it in the first place.
I don't open the door unless I'm expecting a parcel from amazon, I hate door to door sales people and more so for TV licencing cuz at least with a charity if I don't pay I'm not gonna get threatening letters etc
Wouldn't it just be easier for the BBC to pay its own way. It's actually a shame for other live TV channels that they loose customers because one network has a stranglehold over everything.
It's even more ridiculous that they claim money for this Licence to watch ALL other transmitted TV channels that are nothing to do with the BBC - yet give not a penny to any of them!!!
The first question a goon usually asks is "are you the occupier of the house" it's not until you confirm that you are will they tell you they are from TV tax. last time I just closed the door when I seen his little cash machine and his black handbag under his arm they all carry with them. Next time they knock and ask if I'm the occupier I'm going to say no, I'm the next door neighbour I just nip around to answer the door for them then close the door lol
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Housekeeper just there to feed the cat. Lol
I slapped tv licencing with a WOIRA about ten years ago and havnt had any letters or knocks at the door since, they did send a tv detector van to sit outside my house about a week after i did that but when i went out to confront the driver he wound up his window and left the estate very quickly much to my amusement.
This is one of the most bizarre practices I’ve ever seen. A TV license?!? Seriously?
I agree! I'm not there though, I'm not used to these practices....🤯
I've been looking through the comments for someone else as confused as me! What the fuck is a tv license?! What the fuck are tv licensing goons?!?! Is this just a British thing?? I seriously don't understand lol
Wouldn't that be illegal for that TV licence goon to read that man's right being he is not an officer of the law & would it be impersonating an officer?
I think most people just carry on talking to them as they want to wind them up...and when they've left the property they go back into the house and carry on watching live TV!
Lol, so true.😂
Unfortunately it is so tempting to open up on these hateful people, but as chilly tells us, shut the door. I made my declaration have have my reference number but still expect a visit from these thuggish tax collectors, I do not watch live tv, its YT or Netflix or prime. NEVER EVER the bbc claptrap or any other live broadcast !
Not paid for 15 years now (approximately £2000 saved!). Like you say John, it can be intimidating if dialogue ensues. Shut that door folks immediately ! Job done. If you happen to be watching telly without a license, just make sure they can’t see it through the window.
But you still listen to and watch the BBC now doubt.Strange people
Yeah marcus it's called not giving a f###
Even if they can see it through the window, how do they know you're not watching catch up?
Although you've saved that money, all you've done is make the rest of the public pay your bill. That's shameful.
They're not allowed to look through your window, it's invasion of privacy, it'd never stand up as evidence
Alright team. So! After ingnoring all the letters, got a new one yesterday sounding like we are going back to square one. Do not engage! That's my experience and I encourage everyone to do the same
Got one yesterday. It went straight in the bin. As always.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think from now on instead of saying filming for security purposes it should be filming for comedic value or even training purposes
I don’t get why people get so wound up and engage for so long. Be polite and then say goodbye.
Do not bother saying "goodbye"
there is something that happens in human head when some random stranger accuses of doing something wrong in their private home and demands payment and threatens without any evidence that said wrongdoing occured. Confusion fear adrenalin and doubt swirling all together.
I think it is called congnitive dissonance or maybe somebody can correct me.
For some, bringing suffering and frustration to those who do it to others is a satisfying hobby. It's called "trolling". To troll a troll is god's work, and theres a lot of work to be done in this world.
Cancelled my tv licence almost 2 weeks ago. Just got my no licence needed comfirmation in the post. Thank you for the information. You are very informative. Thank you.
Keep their 'confirmation'. Mine said that I would receive no further communication for 2 years. I got the first (semi) threatening letter one year later. But I never did get a visit.
have no further communication ever again with them. That's the way to do it.. Don't renew the "No Licence needed" notice.. If they do send out a goon.. don't bother opening the door just say"GO AWAY, I'M NOT INTERESTED" from behind your locked door leave them outside.. They'll go bother some other mug.
Yes got mine laminated it if they knock on my door I will say no thank you
@@shanefunnell542 Mine reads: "NO TV Licensing or Sales people or Agents Thank You". Mines also laminated. When I move I'll get a video doorbell installed too..
I've been getting letters for about 5 years now saying I'm under investigation and an inspector will pay me a visit. Wish they would hurry the fck up already.
I live in a rough estate in Belfast. TV goons don't come near it. They know better
Would be same in USA mate BBC America is free but we pay for all the shows for them to watch Free, would love to see them knock on a Blood members door WoW lol
@@yorkshirepud6676 I think most forms of BBCAmerica come as part of a cable bundle that is not free. not that they choose the package because of BBCAm.
I was there for 1st time 2 years back for the 12th, the estates the night before were actually intimidating!! Every second person drove a drug dealers range rover. Class.
@@llardfortran2526 Even with a free VPN they could watch all our channels free ...but would they lol Thats the question :)
@@yorkshirepud6676 the American BBC has ads so that it can be free.
Don't know why ours doesn't get with the times and put some ads on and scrap the licence fee xx
I agree with you mate shut the door but for a laugh I did tell them I'd mental health issues n go bonkers if he didn't leave me alone never heard a word since 🤣🤣🤣
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@roger robinson was funny just heading out they were there n said do u live here n i blurted out I've got mental health issues due to lose the plot n he said ok we'll put u off the list i thought result n whatever no chance I'm paying the paedo licence or not losing the plot 👌
Half of them type of videos, a few months later be another one of them getting busted. No point getting cocky or smart just shut that door.
That 2nd one was october last year and the licencing guy had a mask on. I thought TV licencing said they didn't do any visits during the pandemic
just beat them up and then claim they were breaking in
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@@shep295 go for it. lol
let me know how you got on. ha ha
I've got a simple solution for dealing with licence goons and that is to get a doorbell camera - like ring or similar - and connect to your wifi. Then these individuals have no choice to be filmed and can't intimidate very well from talking to someone behind a closed door. It'll be cool to see more user uploaded video reviews soon.
I'll be getting one for my new house for exactly this reason 😀
What if you don't have Wi-Fi
I have the same setup at my house too. I can tell them to f*ck off from the comfort of my sofa!
It's actually painful listening to these people try and sound intelligent talking about implied rights of access and acts of parliament not being law. They would be in for the shock of their lives if they ever tried to argue it in a court room.
An intelligent person would just accept that this organization are never going to stop sending people as they feel they are doing a 'public service' making sure everyone is paying their TV license. Listen to ChilliJon and just shut the door in their face asap. Saves your time and wastes theirs, perfect.
I think a lot of people like the confrontation with them it's like a power struggle😕
@Stevean2 what an idea 💡 imagine if you had to have a console licence then and every game that was bought was subject to a licence fee and you won't be able to avoid it because every game you buy no matter where it will be Amazon eBay it will automatically have this fee added ha
Just put up a notice outside your door that reads "No soliciting, religious groups or TV Licence Inspectors. If you want to ring the bell and speak to me, I charge £100 per minute. If you agree to these terms then please proceed and ring the bell"
Thanks Chilli great video today had letter 4 no hell and damnation though like 1,2,3
I live in one of the rougher areas in my town and these goons stopped coming here years ago nobody pays the license fee here and parents encouraged all the local kids to move them on after about a year they stopped coming all together.
I'd talk to them, I don't even use the TV, there's absolutely no evidence they can get. I'll just waste their time as long as they're willing to waste it so they aren't harassing anyone else, get myself a couple laughs out of it too.
I like the vibe of this channel, so positive and supportive in tone and content.
Thank you for all the info if they ring my doorbell I will be prepared for them.
The only good thing about engaging with these people is you are preventing them bullying an OAP who may be intimidated by them.
I see your point, my god I bet there's some real intimidation going on when they come across vulnerable people 😔
Stringing them along is risky but wasting their time is keeping them from their next victim
You're a hero mate, I now feel comfortable and within my rights to cancel it.
If I lived in England I'd definitely own an airhorn for these people.
From time to time I watch these TV Licence Inspector interaction videos on UA-cam, also interactions with police officers and other officials by "First Amendment Auditors" and subjects of traffic stops. There seems to be a great desire in human nature to win arguments, but it's so much simpler (and more effective) to say nothing.
Agree, but it can be a bit difficult for most people to say nothing at all - human nature. The trick is, of course, just to close the door before any meaningful conversation ensues - like shorthand for the Foreign Office, for example...
Thanks to you Jon I stopped paying for something i didnt need. I evaluated how much TV I watched in a week....sometimes it never even went on. I was paying for something i didnt use. It took your vids to open my eyes. I dont have a sneeky look either out of principle.....TV is full of doom and gloom anyway. Stuff the TV licence and BBC. Thanks Jon....but i wish my Dad would follow suit....at 86 he wont....heyho Im not paying so thats a start.
The dude reading his rights was hilarious 😂😂
If the inspectors are nice about it / accept what you say and walk off, I don't have a problem. When they start making demands, they deserve all the aggro they get. Personally I will just say "sorry I don't watch TV" and close the door on them.
What they don’t realise too is that it’s a volume game of averages. If only 10% of people they talk to buy a licence, they’d be better off moving onto the next house as soon as they’re sent on their way. Spending time arguing and intimidating reduces volume.
Excellent. I am spreading the word and have recommended your channel. Most people still believe these goons have some sort of official status and power. They quote instances of people being thrown into prison and, of course, they're frightened witless of the dreaded TV licensing vans. I attempt to remonstrate, and truth to tell, I've yet to meet someone who's in favour of the TV licence. They are often shocked when they find out they have to have a license to watch ANY live broadcast, not just the vile BBC.
You only need a license if you watch BBC or BBCiplayer. That’s it.
Always be polite, do not confirm anything, do not deny anything.
And DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING.
"Why are they talking to them?"
It's fun for some people and they are confident they can handle it. I wouldn't, I'm a busy man I've got UA-cam to watch and stuff.
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first rule of a goon at your door dont open door, second rule if you open door to goon is close door
Hi, just came across your channel. I have just cancelled my licence and was wondering how to deal with a visit. Thank you so much for your advice and pointing out our rights. I feel better now. I just worry about older people, who could be very intimidated, especially the guy who read rights to the guy. Thank you so much. ❤️
You just simply answer the door, when they say who they are just shut it, DO NOT give your name or explain anything to them, Your not obliged too!
Hi Jon,
You have convinced me that this is the right thing to do in my circumstances. I have cancelled my licence from August 2021.
As you read letters from supporters, please could you show your supporters the correct way to fill in the BBC letter with your details blanked as you have done previously with letters you have used.
I am a big Supporter of yours and wish too do this legally with no come backs.
Many Thanks
Dave
They have the same powers as a mail man.
Less!
@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree No, none.
In the first film you're asking, "Why is he still talking to him?" He's a Weegie, that's why.
Goon: our records show you don't have a tv license.
Me: My tv works perfectly well without one.
**shuts door**
Say that and you've given them the perfect excuse to get a warrant to search your premises with a police officer.
I thought unannounced visits to strangers were against covid regulations.
They always turn up when I'm watching eastenders or Dragons Den. 🤣
This problem has rumbled on for years and will probably not change until the British Biased Corporations charter is due for renewal!
Disgraceful behaviour 😤 😑!
I don't go fishing so I don't buy a fishing licence, I don't own a gun so I don't buy a gun licence so why do these goons expect me to buy a tv licence when I don't watch live tv?
My property has been under investigation for nearly 8 years, still waiting for the raid !!!
I agree they shouldn't be a TV licence in this day and age I think we are going about things the wrong way the argument should be just get rid of the BBC and if they are elements create content out of it, it can be completely commercial as long as the BBC exists there will always be after getting money from the public.
IMO the BBC is something Britain should be proud of, and it should be funded via the public to ensure impartiality, but funding it via income taxes would be fairer and more efficient than through TV licences.
Most European countries have done away with the licence but have put tax up to cover it ..
@@clarkeysam No thanks. I don’t watch them so I shouldn’t be charged. Remove them or put a block on them so you can’t watch it without a license. No one will miss it.
@@lorrainefryer if you don't watch any free to air TV shows then you don't need to pay? Come on, surely you're not this stupid?
Loved that third goon!! What a complete idiot! I can’t wait for them to come round my house, hello who are you “tv licensing” me “do you see that gate at the end of my drive, don’t let it hit you on the way out” 😂😂😂
The removal of the implied right of access relates to the fact that people are generally allowed to come onto your property and knock on your door. If you remove that right, the TV licensing goon is now automatically a trespasser. That said, the moment you inform them of that, they need to leave straight away, so I don't know why they have hung around here.
Careful Sir, you'll be inviting the Alex Belfield treatment with this channel. ;-)
Alex belfield is going to hang them all out to dry ;)
It was disgusting the way they treated Alex I made a crime report to notts police about it on their website for the corrupt tactics
yes great work chili thanks Inspector c
I had another letter from them that comes in a red envelope, of course it went in the bin. Its about time they stopped contributing to the decline of the trees.
I had one too in a red envelope ... all these letters and envelopes - you think the BBC was trying to be eco and save the planet !!
Letters might stop if you paid the bill, never thought about that?
"Why is he still engaging with him?" - So he can put it on UA-cam
removing applied right's of access has actually been used to obtain warrants so i wouldn't recommend anyone doing it
Great advice as usual Jon 👍
Hello. TV licensing sir. No thanks made my declaration bye shut door. The end
I agree with the advice of answer the door, ask who the person is, when they say TV Licensing simply say “no thank you” and close the door. Nice and polite. Where I think some people try to enter a conversation and be more objectionable, is because this visit will have been preceded by a large number of deliberately threatening letters. And of course it makes for good UA-cam.
The one to review is those few Search Warrants. Where the choice of the person in the home is taken away. Here there needs to be a more considered plan of action.
1. If they turn up with a search warrant, normally accompanied by the police, let them in immediately.
2. Start video recording. Say nothing
3. If they ask your name, ask specifically “Am I obliged to answer your questions?” “Am I under arrest?” Are you going to read me my rights?”
4. Usually now they will read you your rights. From now on state “I have the right to remain silent”.
5. If the police intervene, ask them politely not to get involved, state to them that they are only in attendance to prevent a breach of the peace. Advise them not to assist TVL in any way, and that you are recording the proceedings.
6. Identify where the TV is and show them the TV remote controls.
7. If they start to examine computer equipment, laptops, tablets etc state “Under the Communications Act 2003, amended in 2004, computers are not considered TV equipment and you do not have the right to inspect computers, please desist from touching these things”. If they continue, state, “I believe you are acting outside the remit of your search warrant, stop now or I will bring about legal proceedings against you”
8. They may imply that not giving them your name or signing their form you are obstructing. In which case state “As you have cautioned me and I have the right to say nothing, that in order to proceed with your questions I require for you to appoint me a solicitor, as I am uncomfortable with not now knowing my legal rights, as either I have the right to remain silent or I don’t” If the police start to get involved repeat point 5 above, nice and politely.
9. If they start to turn on the TV, remind them that this address does not have a TV licence, so if they enable a live TV picture to appear, they are causing an offence to be committed. It is not an offence to have equipment capable of watching live TV only the act of watching it or BBC iPlayer requires a licence.
10. Don’t ask them to leave, simply invoke your rights, control the police (who often don’t understand the law and misinterpret their role), and allow the search warrant visit to naturally end. Don’t sign paperwork, don’t threaten and remain calm. Do not swear or raise your voice, that is what they want to happen, so the police can bring about obstruction charges.
In the end, most convictions for watching TV without a licence are because the occupant admitted the offence or signed the TVL form. Without those things, they have no case to bring. A video record of the search warrant is vital, it gives TVL warning that misconduct won’t be tolerated. The police are just bystanders in these scenarios. If you don’t admit to watching TV without a licence, they would have to produce evidence that you did, or commit perjury by saying they saw you watch live TV.
Thankfully search warrants are very rare, almost impossible in Scotland, and the BBC really don’t want to use them cause of the bad publicity. But if one happens, please stay quiet and remain calm.
a lot of this was about not what to do when you get a knock ,your comments did highlight this ! personally i think the less you say the better if you ring them to cancel as i did they already know your reasons , i would ask who they are, which is perfectly normal with a stranger on your property , say i don't need a TV licence don't engage them no matter what they are saying , finish with thank you followed by closing your door , no stress job done .
Exactly, my front has a security camera pointing at the door and property, but even if they call I would just say the same, who are you ?? Sorry don't need one goodbye. Door shut. Simples. Thanks Chili great vid.
My TV license is 20 years old but so are the films the BBC show enough said
Love it ! Can we have some more please ?
I think the reason why some people don't shut the door is because they really like winding them up
In had one visit a few weeks ago and I just acted like clunk on wacky races. He left after a few seconds.🤪😁
Haven’t had a visit yet but my time is to valuable to engage with these people
I've got better advice never answer your door to anyone job done another great video👊
Your right ✅ even the police say never answer your door too a stranger, as their always after something.
@@mauriceosullivan6832 a relative used to ask why I always asked who was knocking at my door before opening it but its common sense. I once had a friend round and person made out was coming to read the gas meter so I shouted to my friend who was knocking and when I turned round the guy had vanished! Turns out gas meter wasn't due to be read and I dread to think what would have happened is my friend hadn't been there.
@@squirrelnutkin6094 squirrel, there's a lot of sick weirdos out there.
So, even if you don't watch a television, like me, they expect you to pay for a permit?
The best thing is these videos is that it degrades the job of being a tv license inspector. Being a postie over the past few weeks there has been a MASSIVE increase in the new red envelopes especially with the gradual relaxation of lockdown rules
Thanks to you I have cancelled my tv licence as of Feb 2021 !
Deleted player apps and got confirmation from bbc....
Thank you.
Removing their implied rights of access is not to stop them entering your house it is to stop them passing the threshold of your property.. I've had two of them arrested for trespass for being on my property after having their implied rights removed
I doubt you did, trespass is not a criminal offence. Trespass is civil and doesn’t concern the police so no arrests can be made unless criminal damage is being done.
Correct. TRESPASS on its own is a Civil matter but Tresspass with Criminal Damage (to your property) or Trespass with a Threat of or Actual Violence is a Police matter.
@@PELTY100 So, if you caught someone on camera snooping around your property and clearly casing the joint, provided there was no damage, they could use the implied rights of access law to get away with it?
I have to point out that anyone acting on behalf of an enforcement agency (e.g DVLA, TV, local authority etc.) MUST caution you (caution same one as the police use) if they believe you may have committed a criminal offence. It is just a warning that whatever you say may (aka WILL) be used against you. This is exactly why you should say nothing.