Lol our parents still have such burial “societies” here in SA. A community thing where they pay a monthly contribution in case of death between each other.
isiZULU is the language and Zulu are very proud and large tribe til this day. One must be careful of using it offensive or appropriation. im Nama, my poeple the first genocyde tribes. Zulu are proud then and proud now, most tribes are.
Shaka Zulu was ruthless in his military strategy, but he didn't have an "extermination policy". The whole point was to *absorb* other clans into the Zulu. He had an interest in amalgamation not extermination.
You must remember that shaka Zulu was a prophet, before whites came he had visions bout people coming to Africa specially southern Africa through the sea. All he wanted to do is Unite all tribes into one and divide them across all African land coz he knew the enemy was coming.
@@asadelmalikphd oh i love it, It's good to see that my little tribe is known everywhere in the world , when i travel and being asked where I'm from when i say I'm Zulu and South African a lot of people do know about the Zulus and Shaka that makes me super proud 👸🏾 we are a legendary tribe One day i wish to Visit New Orleans it has somuch history i think it's one of the most amazing place in the US , and the fact that African culture is celebrated there makes me happy 😁
@@lungamadoda6992 that's good to hear. Yes Zulu is easily the most recognized tribe name. You should definitely visit New Orleans...it is like no other place in the world.
You guys are doing good work. Very interesting. We have a strong culture and history of mutual aid societies here in SA too, particularly within the black population. Wonder if we co-opted it from African Americans, and if so, how that came to be.
Do I think that using the name Zulu is cultural appropriation? I honestly don't know. However, I feel as if when it's people of African descent using an African word or term, it cannot be cultural appropriation since those people also have African DNA. I do understand some people may argue with this, but that's what I think, and I'm willing to be educated if someone feels otherwise
I see your point. Here is why we did this video. Our friend Fidel is from Durban. He is Zulu. When he came to visit us I drove him by the Zulu Social Aid and Pleasure Club. When he saw the name he asked "is it a strip club?" 😂
@@asadelmalikphd Lol wow, well I understand now. Tricky one because I'm an advocate for African women celebrating their heritage by dressing up in traditional attire, which a lot of it is revealing. So I honestly don't know where the line should be drawn. At the moment, I wouldn't be quick to use the phrase cultural appropriation.
@@kagisomgibi4644 yes it is tricky. I think I'm going to do a video on how New Orleans and its many African traditions. For example, for the last 300 years black New Orleanians meet in a place called Congo Square to drum and dance.
Great video. Also, I didn't know that at a certain point, the Mardi Gras carnival did not allow Black people to participate in the festivities. In my art history class, here is SA, we learned that the Central and West Africans who were forcefully taken to the US, Brazil, and Caribbean Islands, brought some of their traditions to those countries. Some of these traditions and worship celebrations / festivities evolved into what is today known as the Rio Carnival in Brazil, Mardi Gras in New Orleans, and Caribbean Islands carnivals (can't remember the names of their carnivals now).
True, West African traditions influenced Mardi Gras. However, when I said that blacks were not allowed to participate in the "real Mardi Gras" I am referring to the official parade routes that travel down Canal Street(the main thoroughfare in New Orleans). Blacks were regulated to an area on Claiborne Ave that was divided by a bridge. We were not allowed to get permits to form Krewes with floats. When we were allowed, Krewes had to be segregated. It was not until 1991 that the city outlawed segregated Krewes.
@@asadelmalikphd oh OK I see. Thanks for the clarification. Sad how the same people who gave birth to the carnival later got excluded from it. It's a reminder to protect what we create. Thanks again
no no no... when have you ever seen an African paint their faces black , I'm offended as a black South African.im xhosa and i don't like zulu being associated with painted face .no no no.
Wow... I'm South African. And did not know of this New Orleans part of history.. We south Africans do have a similar part of insurance or mutual aid. Called ( SOCIETY) where money is called monthly for help with funerals. Of course it's more on the Informal side and community based. Very similar
I wouldn't say it's cultural appropriation. I think all cultures evolve with space and time. There's not a single culture or group out there which has not taken one element or way of life from another group.
Hi guy. Zulu is the largest nation in south Africa. We are so proud about our nation and you must come and see if we are doing our activities in the palaces of our king. We promote humanity and respect. We love all people of God. We are very cool. We were Ngoni people before, Shaka unified us Zulus when he took the position of king. He was so brave and intellect. He was like a prophet because other things he was doing there was very confusing. Ngoni nation is very big nation in African continent . We from north of Africa. We emigrated in south Africa long time ago. We found khoikhoi in south Africa and bushman abathwa. We 're second people who migrated to south Africa from the northern part of Africa. The third people who migrated to south Africa are Europeans and Indians. We want black Americans to come to south Africa and learn about our cultural activities and learn about our history as Zulus and other tribes we have in south africa and know about their history as well because all black Americans are from Africa.
With many melinated people in New Orleans /Louisiana having American Indian ancestry I question why there was such a strong promotion of the Zulu and Congo culture
IS TRUE SHAKA ZULU HE`VE NEVER AGED BECAUSE OF THE VUDU WOMEN OR SANGOMA FROM LIMPOPO S.A WERE THE RAIN QUEEN (QUEEN MODJADJI) SHE`S STILL ALIVE AND SHE HEAN`T AGED TOO..........SHE 301 YEARS BUT SHE STILL CAN WALK,SPEAK AND SEE ........PLEASE CHECK IT NOW IF YOU DONT BELIVE ME(just search queen modjadji)
The Last Rain Queen VI Makobo Modjadji (2003-2005) died in 2005 and her daughter Princess Masalanabo (b. February 2005) will be crowned Modjadji VII in 2022. So I don't know about this not ageing thing.
Very interesting - thanks for bring this to YT. Personally I think it is all good fun but please remember - while many glorify Shaka, the truth is that he was a cruel, murderous despot, responsible for the death of millions - a destroyer of nations.
Honestly what I'd say is that the world doesn't know how Shaka Zulu actually was because even his reputation for brutality was exaggerated and deeply rooted in the colonial era. We also have to remember that Nathaniel Isaacs advised Henry Francis Fynn (a fellow author) to smear Shaka and Dingane's character, saying: "Make them out to be as bloodthirsty as you can and endeavour to give an estimation of the number of people they have murdered during their reign[s]." Which would help sell Fynn's book and encourage British annexation of Zulu lands
@@asadelmalikphd You'd be surprised to know that even Zulus and all South Africans in general believe the stories about Shaka. This audio is very informative: m.soundcloud.com/powerfm987/was-shaka-zulu-a-blood-thirsty
Correction Shaka Zulu was born in 1787. He was king from 1816. I misspoke at 1:14.
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Wow! Thank you!
Wow thank you guys for sharing this from a Zulu ❤️
Thank you for this video. Great quick break down of history!
Great presentation conveyed!!!!!!!! 👍
Lol our parents still have such burial “societies” here in SA. A community thing where they pay a monthly contribution in case of death between each other.
isiZULU is the language and Zulu are very proud and large tribe til this day. One must be careful of using it offensive or appropriation. im Nama, my poeple the first genocyde tribes. Zulu are proud then and proud now, most tribes are.
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Shaka Zulu was ruthless in his military strategy, but he didn't have an "extermination policy".
The whole point was to *absorb* other clans into the Zulu. He had an interest in amalgamation not extermination.
He did actually exterminate the TrekBoers on one occasion during an ambush... he killed infants and women
You must remember that shaka Zulu was a prophet, before whites came he had visions bout people coming to Africa specially southern Africa through the sea. All he wanted to do is Unite all tribes into one and divide them across all African land coz he knew the enemy was coming.
@@seandlamini5780 They were boer so....
@@pmambongwe8640 🙈
@@seandlamini5780 they wanted to takeover the country and they did
Wow!💕
Zulu girl here👸🏾 this is so interesting
Thank you. How do you feel about the use of Zulu here in New Orleans?
@@asadelmalikphd oh i love it, It's good to see that my little tribe is known everywhere in the world , when i travel and being asked where I'm from when i say I'm Zulu and South African a lot of people do know about the Zulus and Shaka that makes me super proud 👸🏾 we are a legendary tribe
One day i wish to Visit New Orleans it has somuch history i think it's one of the most amazing place in the US , and the fact that African culture is celebrated there makes me happy 😁
@@lungamadoda6992 that's good to hear. Yes Zulu is easily the most recognized tribe name. You should definitely visit New Orleans...it is like no other place in the world.
Ntombi...uyaphila mama
It is indeed a crazy connection.
8:40 I used to see those dance moves from the TV series "The Originals", best TV show from New Orleans
We are remaking the Shaka Zulu movie, to tell the story ourselves, from our own perspective.
Ukhona yin owaziyo ukuth kwenzakalani noma sizothatha Loku okushiwo yilaba
Turn a negative into positive
Fly in real Zulu dancers and let them teach them how to do it right.
I'm here
You guys are doing good work. Very interesting. We have a strong culture and history of mutual aid societies here in SA too, particularly within the black population. Wonder if we co-opted it from African Americans, and if so, how that came to be.
Thank you. I am sure many groups of poor people had mutual aid societies of some sort.
hmm interesting
Do I think that using the name Zulu is cultural appropriation? I honestly don't know. However, I feel as if when it's people of African descent using an African word or term, it cannot be cultural appropriation since those people also have African DNA. I do understand some people may argue with this, but that's what I think, and I'm willing to be educated if someone feels otherwise
I see your point. Here is why we did this video. Our friend Fidel is from Durban. He is Zulu. When he came to visit us I drove him by the Zulu Social Aid and Pleasure Club. When he saw the name he asked "is it a strip club?" 😂
@@asadelmalikphd Lol wow, well I understand now. Tricky one because I'm an advocate for African women celebrating their heritage by dressing up in traditional attire, which a lot of it is revealing. So I honestly don't know where the line should be drawn. At the moment, I wouldn't be quick to use the phrase cultural appropriation.
@@kagisomgibi4644 yes it is tricky. I think I'm going to do a video on how New Orleans and its many African traditions. For example, for the last 300 years black New Orleanians meet in a place called Congo Square to drum and dance.
@@asadelmalikphd That sounds like a really cool place. I think that's a great idea. Can't wait for that video 😎
@@asadelmalikphd New Orleans sounds like a really interesting place
Zulu in New Orleans needs a makeover. modeled after what actual zulu people would wear, not black face and other stereotypes.
I think that would be great.
Great video. Also, I didn't know that at a certain point, the Mardi Gras carnival did not allow Black people to participate in the festivities. In my art history class, here is SA, we learned that the Central and West Africans who were forcefully taken to the US, Brazil, and Caribbean Islands, brought some of their traditions to those countries. Some of these traditions and worship celebrations / festivities evolved into what is today known as the Rio Carnival in Brazil, Mardi Gras in New Orleans, and Caribbean Islands carnivals (can't remember the names of their carnivals now).
True, West African traditions influenced Mardi Gras. However, when I said that blacks were not allowed to participate in the "real Mardi Gras" I am referring to the official parade routes that travel down Canal Street(the main thoroughfare in New Orleans). Blacks were regulated to an area on Claiborne Ave that was divided by a bridge. We were not allowed to get permits to form Krewes with floats. When we were allowed, Krewes had to be segregated. It was not until 1991 that the city outlawed segregated Krewes.
@@asadelmalikphd oh OK I see. Thanks for the clarification. Sad how the same people who gave birth to the carnival later got excluded from it. It's a reminder to protect what we create. Thanks again
@@kagisomgibi4644 thanks for watching
I think you guys should visit shaka's memorial site when you come to South Africa
no no no... when have you ever seen an African paint their faces black , I'm offended as a black South African.im xhosa and i don't like zulu being associated with painted face .no no no.
Same. It's the same thing the Afrikaaners do...
Thank you for your comment. Many people feel the same way.
Wow... I'm South African. And did not know of this New Orleans part of history.. We south Africans do have a similar part of insurance or mutual aid. Called ( SOCIETY) where money is called monthly for help with funerals. Of course it's more on the Informal side and community based. Very similar
Thanks for watching. I heard that SA had mutual aid clubs.
@@asadelmalikphd They still exist. My parents still belong to a number of them.
You call it Society in Gauteng it's not called that Kwa Zulu Natal
Umasingcwabisane
I wouldn't say it's cultural appropriation. I think all cultures evolve with space and time. There's not a single culture or group out there which has not taken one element or way of life from another group.
That is true. Some argue that culture must be assessed in context. Thank you for watching!
Is there any desire or plans of connecting the two groups? The Zulus from South Africa and the Zulus in New Orleans?
@@sandiletembe2803 I am not sure. I will look into it.
Hi guy. Zulu is the largest nation in south Africa. We are so proud about our nation and you must come and see if we are doing our activities in the palaces of our king. We promote humanity and respect. We love all people of God. We are very cool. We were Ngoni people before, Shaka unified us Zulus when he took the position of king. He was so brave and intellect. He was like a prophet because other things he was doing there was very confusing. Ngoni nation is very big nation in African continent . We from north of Africa. We emigrated in south Africa long time ago. We found khoikhoi in south Africa and bushman abathwa. We 're second people who migrated to south Africa from the northern part of Africa. The third people who migrated to south Africa are Europeans and Indians. We want black Americans to come to south Africa and learn about our cultural activities and learn about our history as Zulus and other tribes we have in south africa and know about their history as well because all black Americans are from Africa.
The used of black face is very offensive to the Zulu culture and the Zulu people.
Thank you for this comment. Black face if very offensive to black people in general and thats why the Zule club in New Orleans is controversial
With many melinated people in New Orleans /Louisiana having American Indian ancestry I question why there was such a strong promotion of the Zulu and Congo culture
They were miss presenting the real culture of Zulus, because they were afraid to give real truth about black Americans identity....😳😳
IS TRUE SHAKA ZULU HE`VE NEVER AGED BECAUSE OF THE VUDU WOMEN OR SANGOMA FROM LIMPOPO S.A WERE THE RAIN QUEEN (QUEEN MODJADJI) SHE`S STILL ALIVE AND SHE HEAN`T AGED TOO..........SHE 301 YEARS BUT SHE STILL CAN WALK,SPEAK AND SEE ........PLEASE CHECK IT NOW IF YOU DONT BELIVE ME(just search queen modjadji)
The Last Rain Queen VI Makobo Modjadji (2003-2005) died in 2005 and her daughter Princess Masalanabo (b. February 2005) will be crowned Modjadji VII in 2022.
So I don't know about this not ageing thing.
Shaka Zulu and Limpopo ?
Yooooo LOL🙆🏽♀️
@@lungamadoda6992 imagine
@@lungamadoda6992 amanga aseya dlulela
sad sad sad
The blackface part I don't really like. But every else is cool.
Very interesting - thanks for bring this to YT. Personally I think it is all good fun but please remember - while many glorify Shaka, the truth is that he was a cruel, murderous despot, responsible for the death of millions - a destroyer of nations.
Thank you for watching. Indeed Shaka was a complicated man.
Honestly what I'd say is that the world doesn't know how Shaka Zulu actually was because even his reputation for brutality was exaggerated and deeply rooted in the colonial era. We also have to remember that Nathaniel Isaacs advised Henry Francis Fynn (a fellow author) to smear Shaka and Dingane's character, saying: "Make them out to be as bloodthirsty as you can and endeavour to give an estimation of the number of people they have murdered during their reign[s]." Which would help sell Fynn's book and encourage British annexation of Zulu lands
@@GrootmanSipho I didnt know that! But it figures.
@@asadelmalikphd You'd be surprised to know that even Zulus and all South Africans in general believe the stories about Shaka. This audio is very informative: m.soundcloud.com/powerfm987/was-shaka-zulu-a-blood-thirsty
@@GrootmanSipho I will listen now. Thanks.