I quit 1 week before my bond ended...(it was that bad) |
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- Sharing my experience as an SIA cabin crew in my mid twenties!
If you ever considered being a cabin crew, I hope this videos gives you an insight of what you'll expect!
If you guys have any other questions, do leave us a comment!
Much love,
John & Pat
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John - / johnathanchua
Pat - / patrinathy
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00:00:00 Intro
00:01:31 Why I wanted to be a SIA Cabin Crew
00:02:17 SIA Interview Process
00:04:58 Salary of a SIA Cabin Crew
00:06:23 Cutting your hair for the job
00:07:19 SIA Cabin Crew Training
00:08:13 Trial Flights
00:09:01 My flying experience
00:10:03 Why I decided to quit
00:11:17 How I've changed after working as an air stewardess
00:12:15 Cabin Crew Life VS Corporate World
00:12:35 My husband's perspective
00:16:09 Why you should not be a SIA Cabin Crew
When I was an MOE teacher , I felt very stressed and I quit exactly right after my 3 year bond ( during the June holidays I quit. I couldn't even be bothered with waiting till the 4th year of teaching to get the big fat bonus , because life was just too miserable to exchange it for money. Quitting a job shows how much we truly care for ourselves.
100% agree. Not that money don’t matter but mental health is not worth the money sometimes. Life is too short to focus just on money.
- Pat
You are strong to know that the job doesn't work for you and pack up to leave despite the remaining bond! Kudos to you!
Pat can you share more (maybe in an episode) on how you transit into a coporate job. Was it dificult? What you did, and what are you working as now?
Me tooo I’m in a similar situation
As an ex crew, I totally understand what you went through, thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much for sharing Pat!! Was really great to hear about your experience ❤
Omg hearing the reason why you quit, resonate so much with my experience. My job is not air steward. It's still a uniform job. I finished my bond. And I am really like feeling the exact things you mentioned, less crying. Easily Irritated and feeling that I don't have enough time for myself. A lot of people were against the idea of me quitting before securing a new job. But I feel like, I just can't do it anymore you know? Like it's getting to a point where the mental health is literally affecting my physical health. I am like getting headaches and fever from the stress and the moods. I guess knowing that there are people out there, who experienced this before and had the courage to make the same decision I did, make me feel a bit better about my decision. I mean a job that decreases your quality of life should not be a job that you stay at right?
Thank you so much for sharing ❤️ Had a similar experience, I had the opportunity to study overseas for university, felt like a dream come true. But it was the opposite, came back after a month, felt absolutely miserable there, and didn’t know why I felt that way, never felt so mentally and emotionally weak in my life. It’s an opportunity others will kill for, and I just wasted my chance like that. I still feel a lot of regret, lost a lot of confidence, always thinking of what ifs, and feel sad from time to time when thinking back although this happened about 8 years ago.
Luv the energy and honesty of the vid! 🫰🏻
Personally I observed that Workplace Bullying seemed to be the Norm in Singapore’s work environments. Not just in the Airlines.
Doesn’t help that the Unions there are basically for window dressings or simply just another COVERT HR department representing the companies’ interests instead.
Alot of toxic work environment over there with no authentic protection for employees.
Watching your video and hearing you recount your experience brought memories of my time in SQ flooding right back!
Thank you for sharing Pat. I have almost the same exact experience/sentiments to my current job and have only ever had these feelings when I had one of my internships. Funny enough, both jobs are in hospitality line, I've mainly had customer service jobs and I do enjoy this line but I guess hospitality just isn't it for me haha. On top of feeling exactly as you described in the video, it's also depressing having to suppress the feeling of not being happy about work but told constantly to put up a front because "work will always be hard". But people just can't seem to understand that it's not a good days bad days situation, it's constantly feeling that everyday is a bad day and you just can't shake this feeling off.
hii, i hope you are doing better now. Maybe this line of job doesn't suit you? Maybe can explore other industry. fighting!! :>
Thank you for your honest opinion. You did the right thing.
Agree , your mental health is most important than anything else. You have done your best so when you look back , I am sure it will bring fond memories and even nostalgia. Cheers !
What u said in this video changed the way I forever look at stewards ( in a good way). So much sacrifices especially family time , and saying goodbye is always so sad. I'm still thinking about what you shared so I wanted to leave one more comment . ❤
the curse of the best trainee strikes again!
(there's this saying that the best trainee in most batches is usually one of the first few from the batch to leave the airlines)
Pat it's actually quite interesting that you never actually faced any hostile treatment, but that your struggle was mainly with the ANTICIPATION and FEAR of hostile treatment. I feel like therapy or psychological coaching could probably have helped with that, by adjusting one's perspective/mindset, aside from just prescribing anti-depressants. But yes, ultimately, it sounds like the job wasn't a good fit if you prefer routine and need the frequent company of family members and friends.
It sounds like you’re trying to dismiss / downplay her experience
@@ngsy8193 nope, im simply repeating what she said, that the hostile treatment never happened to her
So interesting. A story of someone who needs structure in a job that is not structured.. a bit of how i feel in my current job. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for sharing. I was an ex-SIA stewardess too. Quit year 2000. During my first 18 months flying, had similar experiences. Some flights crews were super nice but some were traumatic experiences. I had my days of crying before flights too, fearing of meeting nasty crews. Love the job and the travelling parts, IT was good and fantastic but not the nasty crews. It affect one's mental health.
thanks for sharing your stories, maybe it's my wake up call for my current job as well, for my mental wellbeing.
Your husband is very supportive & you are so blessed, Patricia. 😊 I wish you guys a blessed Christmas. 🎄🎅
Hello! We are both very blessed. Her name is Patrina btw 😄
- John
@@JOHNPATCROSS Hope we stay in touch. 😊
Can truly empathise with that sian feeling and having to be working when the family is having fun. I prev worked a backend customer service job and was also the best new hire but i quit the job after 6 months because of the odd working hours and my office was in some ulu place with no bus going in on weekend. it just compounded on that already dreary mood, really bth.
Can also empathise haha, this is how every NS guys feel when taking the ferry to Tekong. I find that the only thing that helped me feel slightly better is to hang out with people experiencing the same thing.
@@playmakersmusic I am the guy who spent 1 year 10 months of his NS stint in Tekong and I am staying in the west side of Singapore. Literally journey to the east every time I need to book in.
@@tecnic4 Damn that's indeed the worst feeling! Couldn't imagine the amount of dread one has to go through when taking the EW line. Would you say working or serving NS takes the cake?
@@playmakersmusic it’s always on hindsight then I think “aiya it wasn’t so bad”. But I think working takes the cake because you know that eventually NS would be done.
Interesting to know that you felt anxiety before each flight. For me it’s the opposite, I’m always happy to go on flights cause I always have a “shopping list” from relatives and friends. I’m the only one selected in a group of 20. It was a lot tougher and stricter in the 70’s . I joined in 1975- 1985, a great 10 years🥰 Retired as a CSS to start a family 😊
Yea I also find it very funny why I felt this way. I really tried to enjoy the journey. But wow! You went all the way to CSS! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
- Pat
thanks for sharing your experience. important to note that everyone engages with the job differently. it is probably easier for certain personality types (not that some personality types are better or lesser than others).
Any interesting stories to share when you were a cabin crew? Incidents with passengers, or with fellow colleagues? Myths to debunk?
piak piak with captain is quite the norm
I feel the same Pat! I’m ex crew too. My husband and I living a better life now that I’m not flying. But I do miss the travel! :) 😂
Love your charisma and couple chemistry
same! as a ex cabin crew i always get anxiety before briefing!
I can relate to this job of yours , one statement I can share is - your boss may like you but not your staff of colleagues. Your hubby knows you & he the sort of guy who speak the hard truth , he think & care for you most . You are still growing up & you looks matured kind of lady . Stay grounded.
Currently getting bullied at my corporate job by my boss :/ I’m glad you’re done with a toxic workplace!
enjoy ur holiday~🥳
some people have such unnecessary comments ..please dont get affected, you've got such an engaging way of speaking :> also the person who said SQ is btr w/o is prolly jst butthurt that thety didnt get in... good job pat! always prioritise urself and your mental health!!
Have a fun holiday. As a cabin crew, do you get requests to help buy items?
Yes I do. But if not very close, I won’t help luh. We don’t really have much time there.
- Pat
truth be told, i was absolutely miserable with SIA.
Watching your video brought back so many memories when i was with SQ. I quit aft my bond ended because i also love my life to b systematic too and really hate the anxiety before every flt as there was an opportunity to be flying with a top 10.
Ppl also often asked me if i regretted quitting and i did not. It was the best decision I’ve ever made! I enjoy my life so much more now!
P.S. I was also the best trainee… haha!! Though i hve no idea how i became one.
no lah, honestly I get it. it's damn sian one. I imagine it's a lot like having to book-in for NS. also that it's a lonely job (probably why it hit u harder cuz u seem like the kind who needs to spend time with loved ones a lot). so unless u like to be alone and travel/explore, it doesn't really outweigh those downsides. and also I find that only people who don't get to travel much will like traveling. once your work involves flying a lot - it's really damn bloody sian one. not like you're sitting first class.
Sian hor. It has its perks luh. I think I’m the minority luh. Most people like it. I don’t mind the alone time when I’m there. It’s the leaving my bf and family part.
- Pat
Hey Pat! Can you share more about the supplement you’re taking - where to purchase & the type. I don’t have social media to DM you there 😅
Thanks for being honest. Burn out, toxic work culture is real and cannot be tolerated.
Hi. May I know if I should turn down my interview on 14th January? I actually just received an email by SIA that I am short listed. But I'm a Msian resident
your lovely personality and charisma just ooze out in the video :) you both look so happy
Even during training it was horrible for me. Batch mates were not nice and the whole environment was toxic. I left 2 months in
It’s not wat u do or wat u said. It’s how u do it & how u said it that matters. People can forget wat u do to them, but can never forget how u made them feel.
hey mate. how are you been so long I saw you. Happy to see you in youtube bro.. We have worked together some years ago and we always use to having interesting conversations about different topics.
Some things aren't for everyone. It was an experience and you grew from it. You're have a very understanding husband. He seems like a well-balanced guy. You probably complement each other well.
Any horror stories to share that you had experience while staying at so many hotels overseas while working as cabin crew?
Hi Pat thanks for sharing your fruits & vegetables supplement which you drink daily to keep your skin so flawless & supple. Could you please let me know where I could purchase?
Hello John & Patricia, I always feel intrigued by your amazing videos, Singapore airlines is world class airlines known for their impeccable service. 😊 I feel that you & your husband are down to earth. 💜
Hello. They definitely are. I’m very impressed with the training too. Thank you for your support! My wife’s name is Patrina btw 😄
- John
@@JOHNPATCROSS Hope we stay in touch, could my husband & I meet you guys? 😊
Hello you are definitely not alone. I quit half yr into my contract right after my business class training. Similarly I have very bad anxiety too. My anxiety started during training 😅. Sadly I had only few good work trips. The rest all kena jialat crew, my batchie say cause I m too soft. My Air sick is very severe too. Anxiety is the worst on standby days. So I can totally understand how you feel. ❤
Hello. The standby call is the worst feeling. Burn entire day and cannot do anything. And back of our head, if we know the crew mc because they flying with top 10, then even worse. Hahaha!
- Pat
@@JOHNPATCROSS Babe tell me about it man! =(
Standby cannot sleep well cause keep worrying kena call up. Eat also no mood to eat. So I also hands up prefer corporate life!
But so many crew how to know who Mc? You must be 神通广大!
@anaki6361 I’d like to know the same too. In the same shoes as you now.
I should have watched this video before I joined LOL. Similar sentiments as you now thinking of ways to break the bond.
Good sharing..have blessed holidays
There is never a perfect job and never a perfect candidate, it is all about matching. But 1 week before bond ends must mean a lot, so hug hug.
Not related to the video but just want to point out to Pat that you should be drag the puff when putting on cushion foundation cuz your basically making your makeup streaky. Plus your dragging your skin which isn’t good in the long run
Rather, the tapping method is better cuz you’re pushing the product gently, instead of dragging it across your skin
Omo! Thanks for the tip! 🙏🏼
- Pat
Do u all agree Workplace bully is very common in sg. No matter what jobs u do. Working is never easy. But why gaining weight will get scolded by colleague? That is too much. No one can control the body. In short don’t let others criticisms bring us down. We cannot control their mouth. Trust ourself we are the best. Love ourself and be who we truly are❤
I don't think the "zapping" culture has changed much amongst the cabin crew....LOL. I was a LS more than 30 years ago and quit to go abroad for further studies, and now living in Canada. I think what makes flying with SQ so stressful sometimes are the way cabin crew members treat each other....which is unfortunate. Unlike you, I did enjoy my stint in SQ but felt the need to improve myself which is why I quit.
Good job both of you on the vlog channel! I enjoy listening to your insights. Also, pat’s skin is genetically flawless lah 🥰, doubt it’s because of a detox drink - Or is it?
Hello, can you recommend lipstick and nail colors of the same color for SQ girls? 🥰
Hello. Can u list down the products that u used😊
Could just be the lack of sleep. It's normal. Happens in the music industry too. Kudos for realising that something's off. Sleep is one of nature's best antidepressants!
Was the same in malaysia airlines,backnin 90s,no matter who is it,even cleaners you have to keep saying good morning to anyone that passes you by,in training school.
They really upkeep the standard. 👍🏼
- Pat
Can i check how long is the bond for a cabin crew?
Humour me, but Jonathan is Nigerian! 🇳🇬...😂😂😂 He talks like my oga peopleooo... But that said, flying as a cabin crew is no joke. Been doing it for 7 years and even as I type this I'm laying over in a city, far away from home on Mother's Day and I don't remember the last time I didn't put on my uniform on Christmas. Still love it and am very passionate about meeting and serving people, but it can take a toll on one's mental health if they aren't ready. I keep telling aspirants and new joiners to brace themselves for the lows because this job can affect you in all aspects of life, be it mentally, physically, psychologically, financially, biologically, romantically, socially etc...
Watching this after coming back from a flight 👀
Why is there a censored panel in the video?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Idk eh! Why uh! Voldemort following me 💀
- Pat
experience as cabin crew helpful for your CV?
Did you get tattoo before starting work? Because I wanted to challenge cabin crew of sia but I also have tattoo on my arm
Hello. I have one when I join but it is at my hip area. Cannot see. Arm a bit risky.
- Pat
Being a Singapore Boy, yeah I know how it feels 🥹
Hello Pat, can you share the nose shade foundation that you're using? It looks good. 😊
Hello! You mean the Laneige one? I’m using N21. :)
0:35
she really
does not need any makeup
none at all
just perfect without it
You are an honest girl. Sorry to hear the mistreatments that seriously tortured you and affected your mental health. Do you still see your ex-colleagues? Do you still take Singapore Airlines?
Got stewardess ghost stories? The do and don'ts
what corporate life?
omg bank teller then learning lab teacher?! so interesting lol what did you teach at learning lab? maybe can do an episode on your corporate jobs next time :P
Hello! Yes! 😁 I teach English and math there. Up to P3
- Pat
fellow ex-TLL teacher here hahaha does being sent around to different centres to cover other Ts feel like a local version of flying to different cities?
@@matildawormwood4181hello! I know that feeling. Hahaha! But being sent around locally cannot be compared with flying to a city whom your loved ones are not there. Hahah!
The supplement 1 set how many sachets ah?
Hello! 30 for each drink.
- Pat
Did you have body image problems while working as cabin crew
Thankfully I didn’t. 🙏🏼
- Pat
May I know which Church do u both attend? Thanks!!
Hello. We go to Church of the Transfiguration in Punggol. :)
@@JOHNPATCROSS Hello fellow brother and sister in Christ! Visited that church before for my friend's wedding. CGS brother here. =p
why is there a luggage behind? going airport?
We went on a cruise!
- John
That was stupid, if you left a week, just take a week of mc, and if it was that bad, you can claim work stress, and get a week mc and clear your bond.
Trial Flight - Supernumerary aka SNY
Enjoy your holiday folks!! 🎉🎉 Blessed Christmas to you guys!! 🥳🥳
Thank you! Blessed Christmas to you too! 😄
- John
Did you pay the bond amount?
No I didn’t. I was excused by a psychiatrist.
When stewardess gain weight through staff canteen. The food set was meant for Westerners Male. So stewardess eat the whole set will gain weight. The set rice 1. Wholeleg chicken, 1 rice serving, 1 serving Vegetables, 1 Serving Soup. So my advise, share your meal 50% or half with your friend.
Maybe just eat meat. Thats way better
Still the same culture now 😅 BABY HAIR/ weight/ eyeshadow/ lipstick etc
Hello! Hahaha! They still have an image to uphold 👍🏼
- Pat
wasted should have just take some MCs on the last week
1 year into the job and i break the bond . i just couldnt 🙂↔️
Happy for you!
I also quit teaching a few months before receiving my $22,000 Connect Plan payout, coz too overwhelmed with crazy amount of piled-up work after I returned from long MC due to accident.
I found u so familiar till u got Into the car!!! Then I realised who u 2 are. Lol. GBU la. He love u always. Hi John. Lol
Also u look like NOC Sylvia 😊
Oh, were you teaching at TLL? United Square branch? All good lah, u hv picked up how to self gloom and the need to speak more softly. Keep your cheerfulness...
nothing has changed. only salary drop!
I think such training in SIA is good for this generation. So many youngsters are so arrogant these days.
not everyone suitable for the job, either u must be genuinely like to serve people or u are a good actor/actress, if u r none, then probably the job is not for u. With the increase air-turbulence accidents, it had bacame a more risky job.
Bullying, superiority and harassment culture is still there. Been there and done that. Got out early.
Can I talk to you personally, i'm sufferring on it
@@corbycanyomg same. are u still in it?
hahahhs interesting the censored following your face throughout this video!
Hahahaha! Paiseh! There was some technical error 🙏🏼
Great boyfriend he concern about you 🎉
7mths bonus
omg, you are hilarious
Pat is the stereotype true that pilots and crew often sleep around?
No luh. Even if have, it’s a very very small group. But I won’t know luh. Cos I was attached then. Hahahah!
- Pat
It’s not true.
@@JOHNPATCROSS i see... how about clubbing and drinking?
@@Bp-sp2zsu want the juicy bit only.
Skin check ? Ho seh for people with Eczema. I have seen cabin crew girls with skin issues .
But the real question is… chicken or fish??
Algoooooooooooooo
legooooooooooooo
- John
Would You dare to comment on the Gay & Lesbian Mafia, in this industry, Does Such Exist ?