Vince Neil of Motley Crüe | His Deadly Car Crash and the Death of Razzle
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Vincent Neil Wharton (born February 8, 1961), best known by the stage name Vince Neil, is an American musician. He is the lead vocalist and occasional rhythm guitarist of heavy metal band Mötley Crüe, which he fronted from their 1981 formation until his departure in 1992. Neil reunited with the band in 1996 and continued with them until the band's 2015 retirement, and again from the band's 2018 reunion onwards. Outside of Mötley Crüe, Neil has also released three studio albums as a solo artist - the most recent of which, Tattoos & Tequila, was released in 2010.
Mötley Crüe is an American heavy metal band formed in Los Angeles in 1981. The group was founded by bassist Nikki Sixx, drummer Tommy Lee, lead guitarist Mick Mars and lead singer Vince Neil. Mötley Crüe has sold over 100 million albums worldwide. They have also achieved seven platinum or multi-platinum certifications, nine Top 10 albums on the Billboard 200 chart (including 1989's Dr. Feelgood, which is Mötley Crüe's only album to reach number one), twenty-two Top 40 mainstream rock hits, and six Top 20 pop singles. The band experienced several short-term lineup changes in the 1990s and 2000s; these included the introduction of vocalist John Corabi (who was Neil's replacement from 1992 to 1996) and drummers Randy Castillo and Samantha Maloney, both of whom filled in for Lee following his departure from Mötley Crüe in 1999; he returned to the band in 2004. More recently in 2022 guitarist Mick Mars announced his retirement from touring with the band, with former Rob Zombie guitarist John 5 taking his place on live duties.
In late 1984, Finnish hard rock band Hanoi Rocks was on their second American tour and their first to reach California. The two gigs meant to be held in Los Angeles sold out in only twenty minutes. On the day they arrived in Los Angeles, December 8, Hanoi Rocks drummer Nicholas "Razzle" Dingley and the other members of the band (with the exception of singer Michael Monroe, who was recovering from a fractured ankle) visited Neil's home and spent the day in Redondo Beach. After partying for hours, Neil and Razzle decided to visit to a local liquor store in Neil's De Tomaso Pantera. Neil, who was drunk, lost control of the car and hit an oncoming vehicle. The two occupants of the other car were seriously injured and suffered brain damage, and Dingley was killed. Neil was charged with vehicular manslaughter and driving under the influence of alcohol in connection with the crash. His blood alcohol content was 0.17, well above the California legal limit at that time of 0.10. In September 1985, Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Edward Hinz Jr. sentenced Neil to 30 days in jail and five years' probation. Neil was ordered to pay $2.6 million in restitution to the victims of the crash and undergo 200 hours of community service. Neil was paroled after serving 15 days in jail for good behavior; Mötley Crüe dedicated their third studio album, Theatre of Pain, to Razzle.
Nicholas Charles Dingley (2 December 1960 - 8 December 1984), better known by his stage name Razzle, was the English drummer of Finnish glam rock band Hanoi Rocks from 1982 until his death.
He was buried at Holy Cross Church in Binstead, on the Isle of Wight in 1984.
Neil dedicated Theatre of Pain, Mötley Crüe's third studio album, to Razzle. In 2015 Neil admitted to Ultimate Classic Rock that he wrote a check for $2.5 million to the courts, so he only ever served 19 days of a 30-day sentence for the reckless death
Neil's account of this event, while contradictory to witnesses accounts, is documented in Mötley Crüe's 2001 autobiography The Dirt: Confessions of the World's Most Notorious Rock Band. Max Milner portrayed Razzle in the 2019 film adaptation. - Розваги
You said it Scott, Vince is going strong, yet the victims are still dealing with the pain. I truly wish DUI laws gets more stern each year. Thanks Scott🥰
Vince is not going strong he drinks himself to oblivion to forget all the pain of Razzle and Skylar
@@aprilgosa5779 You actually believe that🤦🏼♂️🤣🤣🤣😊
vince neil is an asshole we need to do so much more and better of a job of stopping very very large numbers of drunk people from ever getting behind the wheel because most people that know or see drunk people really arent doing anything at all to stop drunk people they know or see from driving this needs to be done so much more often and better which really should have been done over 2 decades ago what the hell
@@Alien300Blackout yeah, Skylar killed Neil's soul. Especially because so many people said Skylar's death was his karma for Razzle. People tried to tell Neil God doesn't give a child kidney cancer to get back at the dad but people still say it.
He's trash.
I was the passenger in a horrific drunk driving incident a few years back. Really changed my perspective on life and made me never want to get into a car with a drunk driver ever again. Im lucky to be here
Glad you're still here also 🤗 it's scary, been there when another intoxicated friend was driving us all back he from a concert, I sat in the middle seat trying to help them drive, they kept saying I'm not drunk, in the back of my mind I knew differently and had to help because there where others in the vehicle drunk, so one by one they all got home safe, now it's just me over to the passenger seat, as they got me home safe I had asked if they wanted to crash at my place until later that day or eat something and relax until you sober up, they said no I'm fine, well it wasn't fine, they where hit Head on by another drunk driver on their way home, that driver wasn't killed but the person driving us all home did, the drunk driver that killed him got away with no time, because they thought because my guy was drunk and hey caused it and not the other dude since his blood content wasn't as high as for the other dude's.... Just sad, buzz driving to me is the same as drunk driving.... R.I.P to all that have been killed by a drunk driver... 🙏
were you both drunk because these 2 were everyone acts as if Vince forced him it was a tragedy that Vince still suffers from mentally and emotionally
@@aprilgosa5779 does it matter if we were both drunk? I think what matters here is the fact that I’m still alive today, to tell the story about it.
@@DiogenesUlyanov unfortunately both of you are correct. Its great & amazing that you are still here! But both made an active choice to get in the vehicle. (IF, both of you were intoxicated) Either way, I hope I don't offend, its not my intention! This is just my opinion on these types of crashes.
My Nan got cleaned up by a drunk driver who crossed the median strip and hit her head on. It was in ‘64, and although she was lucky to survive she lived with the physical consequences of that accident for the rest of her life. I was 18 months old when it happened and 33 when she died..30 years of unnecessary suffering for one bloke’s bad choices. It frustrates me that people are still dying every day because of drunk drivers.
Nikki Sixx said at the end that this tragedy made the band tighter, but it didn't. This actually caused a permanent rift in Motley Crue that has never healed.
We lived in Redondo Beach at the time this happened. I’ll never forget how angry the community was over the punishment being the equivalent of a slap on the wrist. It just wasn’t right.
I thought I heard her wrong. WTH
The fine Vince paid was for the victims in the other car. Razzle's family didn't receive one red cent. I saw an interview of Vince saying himself he got off easy and felt guilty about it. He also said he thought Skylar's death was his karma.
Out of Motley Crüe, Mick is the most stand up guy. I believe Vince has a bigger heart now and still suffers the guilt of killing Razzle. I like Vince a whole lot better than Tommy. I can barely stomach Nikki at all.
@@roxannemoser I like their music but I always try to separate the art from the artist. Now that John 5 is stepping in for Mick, I really feel for him. He's a nice, down to Earth guy whose only vices seem to be collecting Kiss memorabilia and vintage Fender Telecasters. I just hope he's got his guard up.
@@roxannemoser Mick Mars is the most modest person in the group and the brains behind everything. There's a lot of folks who would disagree with me and say Nikki Sixx. I met Vince Neil one year at Las Vegas Motor Speedway at the drag strip. He was a guest of one the race teams. He was cool with fans. I did get a autograph from on a shirt. The new guy John 5 has very huge shoes too fill in the band. There's only Mick Mars one of the greatest guitarist ever.
@@roxannemoser He is wrong Skylar was not Karma for what happened to Razzle 1 God would not do that 2 Nobody deserves to watch his child die
Everytime I see an accident or I see an ambulance pass me I pray that whoever is in ambulance or in a crash I always pray that everyone is kk or when I pass the cemetery I always say rip to all who lost their live rip that's just out of respect thxz for a great video scott
What a tragic story it's like my friends daughter who was 20. 2 years ago she was back seat passenger in a soft top with top down. The driver was fine the other passenger was seriously injured but recovered while keegan my friends beautiful daughter was killed instantly almost cut in half. The driver has only just gone to trial as he pleaded not guilty. It went to court last month he then pleaded guilty so waiting for sentencing in a few weeks. Now the driver was still aloud to drive no jail time no fine still waiting for justice. Something should be done to the drivers who cause death or serious injury shouldn't be allowed to just walk and carry on with their lives having taken other life. Anyway I shall stop there. Thanks Scott for sharing love from West Yorkshire UK ❤️ 🇬🇧
Vince was out of jail before one of the people in the volkswagon was out of a coma
Seriously? Holy shit
Awful.
I remember my cousin telling me about this in the summer of '85. I was a little 7 year old kid who loved Motley Crue and I refused to believe him. To me, at the time, these guys were stars who could do no wrong. Now, looking back, it's amazing when I think about the fact that it was Tommy who warned Vince not to get behind the wheel. When Tommy Lee is the voice of reason, the situation is pretty much FUBAR.
Tommy seems more normal like sure he’s done stupid stuff but he’s never hurt anyone or killed anyone like Vince. At least Tommy handles his booze and doesn’t do stupid things like what Vince did. Tommy’s a little nuts but he’s never killed or harmed anyone, he’s ok in my book. At least he acts responsibly when he drinks. Common sense Vince doesn’t have whatsoever
@@Stewieboy1995 A little kid drowned in his pool at a birthday party at his house, does that count?
WOW, I haven't heard FUBAR since the 70's. You must be like me, older than dirt 🤣🤣🤣. You Take Care and Stay Safe ✌️
@@Stewieboy1995Tommy crashed his motorcycle and crushed his passenger hand in the process. He was fucked up. Didn't serve a day. Nikki crashed his car around the time of Vince's accident. Luckily no one was in his car.
@@Stewieboy1995Tommy Lee definitely doesn’t act responsibly when he drinks 💀
I remember when this happened. Surprised something like this didn’t happen earlier as the band was totally out of control with drink and drugs. Watched another UA-camr pay respect to Razzle who is buried on the Isle Of Wight . #RIPRazzle
I remember when this happened too. The rock press took it pretty seriously, I remember reading about it in Rolling Stone
Isle of man? Don't you mean Isle of Wight
Apologies indeed it is. Edited above. 👍
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Finally someone does this story justice. Good job Scott
I remember when this tragedy happened. I got most of my music news from Circus magazine or MTV. I wasn’t aware the accident occurred so close to where the bands were partying. Also never knew about the occupants in the VW and how badly they were injured. Vince Neil did not receive just punishment for all of the devastation he caused, imo. Such an awful thing to have happened that could have obviously been avoided. RIP Razzle
that crazy wow
Great video as always Scott. I recently visited Razzles grave. He’s buried on the Isle of Wight off the South coast of England. It’s great too see where it all happened 🙏
I just commented that I watched your video on Razzle without realising you commented too. Great work Paul.
Great Video. Thanks Scott for covering this❤
Great video man, thanks for posting
Thanks so much for Sharing!!!❤
I've never been to cali you're out there with the stars and that's where you should be ...your channel is a huge hit cause you are the best at what you do and I can't wait to see what's coming next like everyone else ..you're the new homerun king cause you cover the best subjects and do it with style humor and the research that is incredible
Thank you so much Mark!
Great video thank you
Stars? U mean the pedos? I've never been there either and have 0 desire to.
Oh yea, good video.
The unintentional asmr of your videos get me every time, regardless of subject matter. Such a soothing voice.
Yeah,that's what got me on the hook with Scotty-with his Jeff Buckley piece...
Great video. Thanks Scott.
Scott you are kicking butt bringing us amazing content thank you
Well done Scott! Thanks for covering this my friend...✌👍
I was never a big fan of motley crue but the movie the dirt was really good. Such a tragic story. Vince Neil got a slap on the wrist. RIP Razzle
Times and laws were different. The guy the drunk driver that killed Criss Oliva (guitarist of Savatage) served 18 months of a 5 year sentence, no big pay out and he had 7 prior DUI's.. That to me is way more of a slap on the wrist. and he wasn't famous.
Good Evening Scott 🙋🏽. Awesome Video ‼️ Thanks for sharing this with me.😃👍🏽
Perfect timing… thank u! And a good way to celebrate my bday today! Love from SoCal.
Yet another interesting story which I’m just learning about from you, Scott. I was 9 or 10 when this happened. You always do such a great job with your videos, and I always learn something new. Thank you!
I def agree. Had this happened back then with today's tech, Vince either would had gotten cancelled or would never live it down. He even admitted in the VH1 documentary he bought his way out of jail.
Thank you for such an informative video about an event that I wasn't aware of.... you do extraordinary work and I appreciate your sense of integrity.
Love your site. I appreciate your videos and love your input !!
Obviously this is terrible situation . You reporting it tho brings the situation to light. God bless RAZZ !!
Great job and props to you for giving 85 Grave credit too. It's nice when people give credit to others that do hard work and you just don't take the info and just make it your own. Great job.
Awesome video. It was very interesting.
Excellent stuff Scott.
We used to call onlookers who slowed down traffic: “rubber neckers.” Another great video Scott! Thank you! ❤
Or a Lookie Lou !
Great cinematography. And historical narration.
Thanks for taking us there Scott!
The same month in '84 Rick Allen of Def Leppard lost his arm in an accident.
THANKK U SCOTT ON TAPE I REALLY ENJOY YOUR SITE!!
I remember this incident when I was a kid in 84. Great video Scott. Love me Some Motley Crue still.
Beautiful view for sure. Great vid!!
Hanoi rocks has been my favorite band since I was in the 6th grade. Thanks for sharing
Lovely view that beach with the low clouds, beautiful!!
Fell in love with this band a couple of years back. Not sure why I had never really given the Crue a chance but they have some amazing songs. Didn't find out about this incident until I watched The Dirt which is an awesome movie.
Baffles me how he didn't serve much time.
Great video as always, Scott. Keep doing what you do best brother. Love from England.
Doc McGhee got Vince out of trouble with that.
Big money lawyers. You know the kind Us normies can’t possibly afford. Think O.J. Simpson. lol
not many drunk drivers do
@jayIgnition I hate being someone who says this... But if you liked the movie Dirt.. You HAVE TO read the book! I liked em both. But it isn't even close!! The movie misses 90% of the story.
Read the book goes into more detail about what was going on at the time with the band I too discovered motley Crue 3 years ago I was on heroin I was 23 in a bad spot in my life I've now been almost a year clean but Nikki's story resonates with me so much... Another person whose music I discovered while being lost in the black despair pit that is heroin addiction, is Prince.! He rocks too just like motley rox.. God bless guys
R.I.P Raz and condolences to your family and friends 🙏🙏🙏💖💖💖🇬🇧
Very well done, sir!! Awesome video and very respectful of the deceased.
New subscriber, love your vids man! Real life, real stuff
Thank you Jordy!!
Awesome video,as always, Scott! 👍 Yeah, Vince got a slap on the wrist. RIP Razzle. 🤗✌️
I loved Motley crew whilst growing up, RIP Raz, never forgotten 💐💐, thank you Scott ✌️✌️🤟🏼
Awesome job again, Scott. I was never that into Motley Crue so I guess I never digested this story when it originally broke back in the day. But I love your take on it, and I can't agree with you more. I've been in a few car accidents - and the way you describe the "explosion" and crunch, etc - it immediately took me back there. Fortunately for me and those involved - it was mostly "minor" accidents, but serious all the same. Anyway - thanx for the story and interesting facts. Take care, my friend.
I like motley Crüe but not so much these past years since I’ve grown up. I realize they’re egotistical jerks and just horrible people. They also can’t close their mouths especially Nikki. I thought they were cool as a kid but now I’m 27 and I just realize they’re not good people, better rockstars to appreciate and admire. These motley boys are drunks, druggies and womanizers like don’t have to be a pig with women. No respect for people these clowns. Lost respect for them years ago when I realized how stupid they are, especially Vince and the crash.
I've been a Motley Crue fan since the'80s, but have always seen this as an injustice. Great material as always Scott! Keep it up!😃👍🇨🇦
Such a sad story 😢❤️ poor man 😔🌹🌟🌹R.I.P 🙏🕊️❤️ Thank you again Scott for always great videos 🤗😊👌❤️ You are absolutely the best 💪😊💞
Thanks Scott! I don’t even remember all of this. Sad for everyone involved 😢🙏. Have a beautiful weekend everyone 🙏❤
15 days?? What a joke. 😮
I hope he is reminded of that horrific night each and everyday. SMDH
My dad used to party with the band a lot and I remember him telling me about this when I was a kid. Too bad I never got more stories after I grew up he passed away
Hi Scott just shows you in a split second how your life can change and other people as well feel for the family involved but some people never learn until it’s too late keep up the great work with the vlogs really enjoy the locations and the history that you give details and the background
Hey Scott Happy Holidays
9:31 85 Grave filmed this 3 years ago, and that old red Bronco on the right was on their vid in front of the store! Thanks for the upload Scott !
Thank you Scott for doing this story I was 10 years old when this happened and I agree with you Vince Neal got off easy.
So crazy that u uploaded this I just watched the move the dirt and felt so bad for vince and razzle
Your comments aren't harsh at all Scott. Anyone else would have done some serious time for such an accident, if you can call it that. Money talks and people walk. Vince issued a court room apology to one of the victims, besides the payout that was it. Thanks for showing this location. I have Chynnas' autobiography, I'll have to check out your video about her. RIP Razzle ❤️💐🕊️🌈
Laura I agree with you if you have money and your famous you get away with it Robert from Australia
@@robertmckay2833 A lot of times it's true. As Scott pointed out, Motley Crue was a the top of their game at this time and it would have been a blow to them and their organization if their lead singer got locked up. Millions of dollars would have been lost. It's disgusting that money prevailed over justice in this case, but in a subtle way Divine Justice prevailed.🌄
@@laurastrobel718While I agree money helps, it's not like people normally get a huge sentence for vehicular manslaughter. At the end of the day it was an accident, a mistake. Obviously an avoidable one and horribly tragic.
@@MrOctober44 So tragic 😕 Appreciate your input.💫
Great job Scott! You are always great of what you are doing, interesting, as well! Cheers to you! Keep up the good work! I have vague memories of this tragic accident, but the punishment for Vince Neil, not even as a joke.
Such a tragic shame RIP Razzle.
The weather looks awesome compared to here in Alberta, Canada it -35 in the day time.
Great video. So sad...✌️
I just watched this for the first time. I’m a huge Hanoi Rocks fan so I’ve avoided watching any videos about the crash since it will only make me angry. You did a wonderful job sticking to the facts, not dramatizing it. You were also very respectful of Razzle and the other two people horribly injured in the accident. I thank you for that.
Hanoi was a magical, once in a lifetime band. It’s tragic how things ended for Razzle and for the band but they left behind some of the most amazing music I’ve ever heard.
I love your videos
Paul from unusual things did a video recently on the final resting place of ‘Razzle’. Love watching both your channels so interesting what you do. Thank you
Love your stuff . I laughed so hard when you side tracked at some high pitch noise and you were like whats going on up there and then went back to this amazing story. Much love and peace my friend. Keep rocking 🤟🤟🤟 my brother
Haha thank you Justin!!
A person who gets caught for DUI twice after killing a person and seriously injuring two others isn't a good human.
Your moral superiority has been duly noted
I Remember This
Incident Very Well
Great Video
As Always Scott.
R.I.P.
Nicholas Charles “Razzle” Dingley
I never heard about this case. I was too young then. Very interesting video. Beautiful area.
It’s my brother’s birthday todays and this was a video he wanted u to cover thanks Scott have a nice rest of your day
Soon as i saw the video. I thought i saw this before and i was right. Thanks. Have a great weekend ♥️
Never knew that about The Delphi and I pass by it all the time when I visit Redondo Beach a few blocks away from me. Great info!!
It's like you live in my head . Or you in my mind..you know the thing. Great film good sir.
🎸I Love both Band's music,but ya he got a slap on the wrist. TFS! Your awesome!💜😊💜
Great video Scott. Hopefully it will serve as a warning for anyone that decides to drink and drive. I remember this incident well because I was sixteen at the time. Since it was pre-internet accurate information was hard to come by. The following Monday after the wreck, someone at school told me Tommy Lee had been killed. I knew better because I had seen an article in the newspaper a day or so after it happened.
Yes I remember hearing this
Thanks
Thank you so much for the tip it is so appreciated!!
RIP Nicholas "Razzle" Dingley. I was a HUGE Hanoi Rocks fan. I discovered them through GNR. Izzy made his stage image after Andy McCoy.
Edit: not one dime of the restitution went to Razzle's family. I saw an interview where Vince says he still feels guilty. Sharise was pregnant with Skylar when this happened, and Vince said he believes Skylar's death was his fault too. He said it was his karma for getting off so easy. He also said that he didn't ask Doc McGhee to fight so hard for that easy time, but he didn't reject it when it was handed down. He had to stay sober during tours as Tommy and Nikki were shooting heroin and ridiculing Vince for having to stay clean. He eventually couldn't handle it and started drinking again, but he never did heroin.
Andy McCoy gave Nikki the shot that made him overdose. Nikki wasn't hit with a baseball bat, nor thrown in a dumpster. Andy did CPR until the ambulance arrived. Andy left when Nikki showed back up and told him he was stupid.
Here's Andy's story:
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Andy Mccoy hates Vince n Nikki and Nikki Overdosed twicce in a 24 hour period
He absolutely did. Still wasn't Andy's fault as Nikki states.
I just signed up for 85 grave thank u for being respectful even tho u have ur opinions at the same time he lost his daughter so there's a lot he's going thru also
Super coverage as per usual Scott. He should of received at least 12 years. I stayed in Santa Monica. For quite a long while. Months. I love Santa Monica Pier and Malibu. I walked past these condos and never knew they lived there. I respect your views and I completely agree with you. Craig and the boys send their love. They watch lots of your videos and they have even watched vids from years ago you made. Loads of love and respect from us all bud. You are the best on youtube
Great idea for a video.
This was a great video. I don't even remember hearing about this car accident at the time and I have always been into rock and heavy metal. Like you said, you miss the news one or two nights and no Internet....
Great job Scott✌️💯💯👈👈watching you from New Zealand 🇳🇿 5m people🙏
15 days. Travesty! RIP Razzle, and blessings to the 2 people in the other car.
By the way, thanks for such good job
Great video Scott and he must have not learn his lesson if he still is doing it and i enjoyed the video Scott.
Very sad 😔 another great show brother love from UK 🇬🇧 🙏 stay safe scott 🙏 👍
Hey Scott thanks for this, I only knew what was on the Dirt ,and sketchy stuff back when it happened back when! iam 61 my mind not so clear anymore lol 😆
HEY SCOTT!!! thank you for sharing this ... when i was 19years old in 1977 i was driving my 64 impala ss coming back from the drive in movies,and we were drunk!! well i hit a utility pole doing 95 and my best freind that was in my passenger seat died.. i just broke my leg.. i got neglagent homicide and 10 year probation and 90 days in jail and 500 hours of comunity service...and i still suffer everyday for the guilt and loss of my best freind virgil ray .😪
So true.....always hope people are ok when you hear that noise....
"Mornings aren't great for me." Awesome.
Vince Neil lost a child. Perhaps that was karma.hope he humbled up since then. Just sad had to come to that. Pain comes and punishment come in different forms. Sorry for loss of his friend and his daughter. There’s all kind of lessons in this life, point is to learn from them!✌️
Last week, after I was done work and on my way home (this is at about 6:30 or 7 in the morning), I actually was stuck in traffic. I hate sitting in traffic but there was nothing I could do. The reason why traffic was so backed up is because there was a really bad accident on the other side of the interstate going north (I was going south). I didn't understand why those going south were going so slow, but you said it right, everyone slows down and looks. The thing that went through my mind when I got a glimpse of the accident was that I pray that everyone was okay. It was a very bad accident as well. Very well done video as usual and I love watching your videos!
Great video Scott I did not know that happened back then. You should do a video on the heavens gate cult down in Rancho Santafe ca
Wow, I had no idea about any of this 😳 I used to love their songs. Still do,
Still blows my mind that Neil skated with essentially a very large fine and no serious jail time. I guess money can get you out if a lot of problems.
I love old Crue, but seriously, he should have been doing hard time for that level of negligence. A .17 is about 6-8 drinks in an hour for a person of Vince's body type (170-190 lbs). Plus how much coke, etc... yeah. He got off light.
Vehicular Homicide, IMHO.🤗✌️
great video! Also i love your Liquor store ghetto "LOCS" sun glasses ! East LA staple! i have a few pairs!
This was a badass video....i didn't even know about this!
Excellent video, I never knew exactly where it was but I remember when this happened. A friend of mine was dating Vince's cousin.
I got to know and meet the guys from crue after this incident. My first time hanging out Vince had just been released in jail and they were back on the theater of Pain Tour. He had shorter hair, seemed quite compared to the rest of the guys. I think loosing his daughter then this has taken a toll on him personally.
@LCA-Auctions he lost his daughter in the 90s this happened when he was young in 1984 some say Skylar dying was his karma t hey do not know the Lord I serve Vince has never gotten over this or Skylar so yes he chose to drink he needs treatment not condemnation
@aprilgosa5779 I know this. Thank you for response.
I think he needs to realize it’s the two in that other car that have to live their lives having someone help them go to the bathroom and eat and bathe. He doesn’t give a damn and I don’t care his daughter died, he’s taken enough lives in one night. He just needs to realize you took two young peoples lives that now are vegetables basically you took their lives away by your stupidity. I don’t see him ever giving a Damn about those two young kids, it’s always his daughter who passed. I understand it’s sad but how many lives did he destroy in one night
RIP BIG Raz 🙏🙏🙏🙏