The 2020 Roubaix Expert, pre-covid. Over-speced, perfect bike. All the right moves for endurance and built prior to the collapse of bike supply chains. It's a story in itself.
I like both. I got a great deal for Roubaix S Works with SRAM red power meter etc. super impressive bike. Exactly what I was looking for as it is sooooo comfortable. Future shock definitely helps when I come across crackyroads and bumps. I wanted Defy or TcR. Maybe in future when I need another bike . Roubaix so much more pleasant and comfortable than my Dogma.
I’ve always respected Warren’s reviews, it comes from a deep knowledge of bike development & testing. That’s why my previous bike was a Supersix EVO Hi-mod and my current bike is a TCR Advanced Pro. Still got your Storck Warren?
My thoughts exactly-I have a 2018 Roubaix with the earlier version of future shock which works brilliantly, and I have been lusting after an Aethos-but the geo is a bit too ‘race bike’ for my 75 year old body. The Crux is the same frame design as the Aethos but longer wheelbase and gentler geo, yes it’s heavier than an equivalent Aethos but like for like it’s lighter than a Roubaix-decisions, decisions…….
Yeah, he really only covered the specs to compare Price Range... And he concluded by saying the Giant was the better Road RIDE... Which I knew he would!!😂(Really like the idea of that Roubaix future-shock though🤔....)
@@markehrlich7534I own the diverge and it’s great all rounder for me. I don’t ride fast anyways. I have the panaracer sk 38’s and for faster rides pump them up to 40psi, for gravel 27 psi. Perfection
Nice review (and fair from the start pointing out the differences in build levels), but I still have a really hard time with $12000 bikes that are probably in the same factory in Asia. Of course the laws of supply and demand apply, and manufacturers will provide what consumers want and buy at whatever cost. After all, people go into business to make money. I get that. But $12000 for a bike that chances are looks like a gazillion (yes, that's a word! 😆) others? I'm out, I'm afraid.
Hello. I am in mumbai and the roads here are horrible with potholes and stuff. I am looking for a fast bicycle which is versatile and can last at least for 5-7 years or more, and is safe in the rains, bad roads and the occasional mountain trips on the road. I deciding between the pinarello gravel and the roubaix sport considering it is at a similar price (lower spec components) and can upgrade components in time if needed. Any suggestions which is better?
Interesting that this is multiple professional bike reviewers who own their own TCRs are all saying they might switch to the Defy... As a consistent and multiple TCR owner, who took a new '25 Defy for a spin, I may be doing the same...
It would be good to remind viewers at the conclusion that you're not comparing apples to apples, which would have been the top end (lighter frame) Roubaix S-Works model to the top model Defy in your video.
The new Defy is one of the best looking bikes released this year. The price isn't as far off the Canyon as other big brands, so I think it's the clear choice.
Same, but will be going for the defy as I can buy it from a dealer nearby, as to optimise my position. The canyon center is just too far in terms of maintenance as well. I have a a canyon e-bike. Should go for a broken light… but it is a 30 min + ride. I have come to appreciate service, my time and ease of mind.
Specialized has a hoverbar problem. The Roubaix has a profile only a parent could love. Gimmicks are needless in a wide tire era. Canyon learned. Roubaix should be synonymous with 2BR rubber. Specialized's tyres are highly rated. Owners of competitors' frames run them. Lean on that strength.
Not a huge fan of the Roubaix but it's no gimmick. If you're riding mostly smooth terrain with higher pressure, that suspension still does a lot to soften the ride when you hit things vs lowering pressure for terrain that largely doesn't need very low pressure. It also let's you get away with narrower tires on rough terrain
Ah yes, channels should only review what you personally want to see. And let’s ignore the masses of other videos they have made featuring neither of these brands. 🙄 Do you just go looking for reasons to be upset and offended?
Which is your favourite?
Roubaix 👍
The 2020 Roubaix Expert, pre-covid. Over-speced, perfect bike. All the right moves for endurance and built prior to the collapse of bike supply chains. It's a story in itself.
Roubaix, all day, every day
Just bought a Roubaix to replace my road and cyclocross bikes. Less bikes means a happier wife and thus, a happier life. :)
Just put in my order for the Defy Advanced Pro. Can't wait for the new year.
New Defy is so good it'll start cannibalising TCR sales. New TCR had better bring some improvements, because they sure made the new Defy a winner!
2023 propel had already started to seriously impact TCR sales, the new Defy is another nail in the current TCR coffin
The TCR is an introductory road race bike that is quite competitive. Always has been.
Excellent review, thank you.
I like both. I got a great deal for Roubaix S Works with SRAM red power meter etc. super impressive bike. Exactly what I was looking for as it is sooooo comfortable. Future shock definitely helps when I come across crackyroads and bumps. I wanted Defy or TcR. Maybe in future when I need another bike . Roubaix so much more pleasant and comfortable than my Dogma.
Out of curiosity did you swap wheels just to see what difference if any that makes? Great review as always,
Cheers
I’ve always respected Warren’s reviews, it comes from a deep knowledge of bike development & testing. That’s why my previous bike was a Supersix EVO Hi-mod and my current bike is a TCR Advanced Pro. Still got your Storck Warren?
Helpful, thanks!
Seems to me that the Crux with a set of road wheels is the winner here....Looking at the geo charts, seems pretty similar
My thoughts exactly-I have a 2018 Roubaix with the earlier version of future shock which works brilliantly, and I have been lusting after an Aethos-but the geo is a bit too ‘race bike’ for my 75 year old body. The Crux is the same frame design as the Aethos but longer wheelbase and gentler geo, yes it’s heavier than an equivalent Aethos but like for like it’s lighter than a Roubaix-decisions, decisions…….
“Not going to be comparing specs, it’s all about the ride” …then spends the whole video talking about specs and hardly any actual bike review.
I thought he covered the specs quickly but talked about the ride…😅did I miss something?
Yeah, he really only covered the specs to compare Price Range... And he concluded by saying the Giant was the better Road RIDE... Which I knew he would!!😂(Really like the idea of that Roubaix future-shock though🤔....)
@@markehrlich7534I own the diverge and it’s great all rounder for me. I don’t ride fast anyways. I have the panaracer sk 38’s and for faster rides pump them up to 40psi, for gravel 27 psi. Perfection
Both are awesome ❤
Nice review (and fair from the start pointing out the differences in build levels), but I still have a really hard time with $12000 bikes that are probably in the same factory in Asia. Of course the laws of supply and demand apply, and manufacturers will provide what consumers want and buy at whatever cost. After all, people go into business to make money. I get that. But $12000 for a bike that chances are looks like a gazillion (yes, that's a word! 😆) others? I'm out, I'm afraid.
Hello. I am in mumbai and the roads here are horrible with potholes and stuff. I am looking for a fast bicycle which is versatile and can last at least for 5-7 years or more, and is safe in the rains, bad roads and the occasional mountain trips on the road.
I deciding between the pinarello gravel and the roubaix sport considering it is at a similar price (lower spec components) and can upgrade components in time if needed.
Any suggestions which is better?
What size was the Defy reviewed here? Looks like an XL?
Interesting that this is multiple professional bike reviewers who own their own TCRs are all saying they might switch to the Defy... As a consistent and multiple TCR owner, who took a new '25 Defy for a spin, I may be doing the same...
i almost bought a roubaix years ago but the dealer what a snobby holier than thou bike bro
Giant all day
It would be good to remind viewers at the conclusion that you're not comparing apples to apples, which would have been the top end (lighter frame) Roubaix S-Works model to the top model Defy in your video.
I’m torn between the new Defy and the new Canyon Endurace…I’d love to see a head to head.
The new Defy is one of the best looking bikes released this year. The price isn't as far off the Canyon as other big brands, so I think it's the clear choice.
Same, but will be going for the defy as I can buy it from a dealer nearby, as to optimise my position. The canyon center is just too far in terms of maintenance as well. I have a a canyon e-bike. Should go for a broken light… but it is a 30 min + ride. I have come to appreciate service, my time and ease of mind.
Hi sir, how tall are you please?
pls make a bideo avoit trek procaliber 6
Roubaix SL8 = 2019 Diverge
And 2023 Defy = 2015 Roubaix w/out the Zertz, but with better, lighter carbon fiber layup. Geo is essentially identical
Specialized has a hoverbar problem. The Roubaix has a profile only a parent could love. Gimmicks are needless in a wide tire era. Canyon learned. Roubaix should be synonymous with 2BR rubber. Specialized's tyres are highly rated. Owners of competitors' frames run them. Lean on that strength.
Not a huge fan of the Roubaix but it's no gimmick. If you're riding mostly smooth terrain with higher pressure, that suspension still does a lot to soften the ride when you hit things vs lowering pressure for terrain that largely doesn't need very low pressure. It also let's you get away with narrower tires on rough terrain
I put regular handlebar on my 2021 Roubaix and it looks so much better
@@j03yl33ah yes, looks… clearly the most important metric 🙄
picture please ?
No Trek Domane?
No, overpriced and heavy.
Giant against Specialized - how original -... Like there are no other brands to compare...
Well if the manufacturers won't provide them for a comparison review, draw your own conclusion as to why.
@@bikeman123 we don´t know that. Your conclusion is just wrong. Maybe these 2 big brands just paid more to geht the desired review...
Ah yes, channels should only review what you personally want to see. And let’s ignore the masses of other videos they have made featuring neither of these brands. 🙄
Do you just go looking for reasons to be upset and offended?