Critiquing the "Dissident Right" with Renaissance Man

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  • @renaissanceman419
    @renaissanceman419 16 днів тому +65

    Thanks a lot for having me on

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 16 днів тому

      Ephraim! How are you?

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 16 днів тому +1

      @@johnnotrealname8168 Not too bad

    • @MW-zm9hl
      @MW-zm9hl 16 днів тому +1

      love seeing you return, discord was a crazy place back then

    • @kevinpulliam3661
      @kevinpulliam3661 15 днів тому

      Really great stuff man!

    • @aarondickson1898
      @aarondickson1898 14 днів тому

      Nothing wrong with y'all content but you mega dorks have to explain why the 'dissident right' should listen to you in the first place.

  • @newglof9558
    @newglof9558 16 днів тому +22

    Mauritian!! He helped me return to the Faith. Glad to see him doing well

    • @eldenlean5221
      @eldenlean5221 16 днів тому +5

      Same here, born and raised catholic, had my edgy new atheist phase and these two fellas here are the main reason why I snapped out of it.

    • @TheDistributist
      @TheDistributist  16 днів тому +5

      he's a good guy.

    • @gnomueaux
      @gnomueaux 16 днів тому +8

      you must be an ancient devote of him if you remember the Mauritian label lol. He did that for me though under the RM label though

    • @navienslavement
      @navienslavement 16 днів тому +1

      Golf

    • @newglof9558
      @newglof9558 15 днів тому

      ​@@navienslavementhello king

  • @areyoutheregoditsmedave
    @areyoutheregoditsmedave 16 днів тому +32

    listening to this as i do electrical work in smelly section 8 housing for a dysgenic african migrant with a thousand kids.

    • @Vingul
      @Vingul 16 днів тому +6

      Section 8, District 9?

    • @vorynrosethorn903
      @vorynrosethorn903 16 днів тому +2

      Basically council housing in British terms.

    • @jackvancekirkland
      @jackvancekirkland 16 днів тому +10

      would be a real shame if you made some kind of mistake in whatever you're doing

  • @ShowMeMoviesInc.
    @ShowMeMoviesInc. 15 днів тому +12

    Church bros (especially the Catholic or orthodox converts) get very excited which is nice, but they often say the church is the answer for everything, and I don’t even think the gospels say anything like this and it feels often like retreating to the insular. That’s not to say some secular answer will ever suffice for spiritual answers

    • @ATEN_DNAR
      @ATEN_DNAR 5 днів тому

      Matthew 16:18 - And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

  • @DC-td7cq
    @DC-td7cq 16 днів тому +10

    The spiritual language that Christians have (and the world cannot understand) is the language of confident hope in redemption.

    • @cesarcampos8746
      @cesarcampos8746 15 днів тому

      Sure dude

    • @DC-td7cq
      @DC-td7cq 15 днів тому +1

      @@cesarcampos8746 cope

    • @ChannelRandomMy
      @ChannelRandomMy 7 днів тому

      This sounds good, and I agree it can't be understood by nonbelievers, but it isn't a language.

    • @DC-td7cq
      @DC-td7cq 6 днів тому

      ​@@ChannelRandomMy Acktually and gotcha! Explain Acts 2:4

    • @ChannelRandomMy
      @ChannelRandomMy 4 дні тому

      @DC-td7cq I don't want to argue scripture with a fellow Christian, you can view Act 2:4 as you do, I"m not trying to one up you. How about you explain to me how we can use this language to speak to one another without others understanding as Dave mentioned?

  • @robertpatter5509
    @robertpatter5509 16 днів тому +10

    Speaking of the Renaissance, try looking up
    - The Book of the Courtier by Castiglione ( What a Gentlemen is)
    - Galateo by Giovanni Della Casa ( Manners and what is a Lady?)
    Two of the biggest italian books of influence of the time. Along with Dante's Inferno.
    The Right to Bear Arms may have originated in Italy, The Gentlemen and military service intertwined.
    Addendum: Spirit precedes Aesthetics.

  • @matthewthestoat
    @matthewthestoat 16 днів тому +24

    This stream feels like it belongs in 2016 and not in a good way

  • @dominicius77
    @dominicius77 16 днів тому +16

    We need more men of action and less men that intellectualize.

    • @donjuanmckenzie4897
      @donjuanmckenzie4897 16 днів тому +1

      Go get em

    • @kevinpulliam3661
      @kevinpulliam3661 16 днів тому +3

      Nah we need both

    • @AA-ki6zn
      @AA-ki6zn 12 днів тому +4

      You step one degree right of Dave and talk about "those issues" as a public-facing commentator/intellectual and your professional life is 100% over. Everything you've worked for since high school SAT cramming, gone. Forever.
      In other words, you first.

  • @kinghoodofmousekind2906
    @kinghoodofmousekind2906 13 днів тому +2

    26:13 funny thing about Dante; even in Italy, we read it with a translation. His Italian is so different from ours, plus many symbols and images found in the text are lost due to the changes in culture in the peninsula, both locally and in the Country.

  • @nietzschesmadman4026
    @nietzschesmadman4026 16 днів тому +23

    The whole point of BAP is to demonstrate that the self-appointed priest class failed to curb the inherent moral decay of the post-industrial first world, and that said priest class lacks any real potency to catalyze meaningful change as long as they remain timid, hamstrung stakeholders in this whole disgusting machine. My local church groups are mostly out of touch pensioner boomers hung up on 700 club culture war talking points from the 90s, whereas the butchering of sacred cows that comes so effortlessly and innocently to good-natured youths seems to hold the promise of deliverance as long as it can survive the domestication process that claimed the vitality of their impotent forefathers. Real teleology makes no pretenses about doctrine.

    • @navienslavement
      @navienslavement 16 днів тому

      Can you explain what you've meant? Like what are the sacred cows that kept the vitality?

    • @nobobonobo
      @nobobonobo 16 днів тому

      He is jewish

    • @nietzschesmadman4026
      @nietzschesmadman4026 15 днів тому

      ​@@navienslavement sacred cows, as in things performatively esteemed by a culture through peer pressure, rather than any objective praiseworthiness. See also naked emperors

    • @earlyandoften
      @earlyandoften 15 днів тому +1

      well-said

    • @earlyandoften
      @earlyandoften 15 днів тому +1

      @@navienslavement firmly masculine leadership and general orientation regarding societal goals and direction would be the most significant if restored, I think

  • @clknight2008
    @clknight2008 14 днів тому +1

    Great talk. Looking foward to seeing some sort of list written out. Trying to dive into all this with no guide is a bit daunting.

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 14 днів тому +1

      I'll copy and paste what I wrote below:
      Okay that didn't post so I'll just list them:
      For instruction on mental prayer, Ways of Mental Prayer by Dom Vitalis Lehodey is recommended, but so also is Conversation with Christ by Fr Peter Rohrbach. This latter is a lot shorter, but some content may be objectionable to some of the Eastern Orthodox.
      For books to actually meditate on, the New Testament is recommended (Especially the Gospels). The three other books I recommend (Which would be fit for your catholic grandmother) are: Story of a Soul by St Therese of Lisieux, Preparation For Death by St Alphonsus Ligori and Humility of Heart by Fr Cajetan Mary Da Begamo.
      For theological instruction, I should have mentioned the Catechism. There's an edition with Theological Commentary which would be worth seeking out. Besides this, start by praying the Psalms and Learning the Proverbs. A good commentary in English is the Ancient Christian Commentary Series on Proverbs, Ecclesiastes and The Song of Solomon (This Last book is especially hard so I would explicitly avoid that). For a longer list, Paragraph 41 of Spiritus Paraclitus gives an order of reading.
      Beyond this, it is worth subscribing to Militant Thomist and Distinguo. Likewise, finding the Aquinas 101 playlist on the Thomistic Institute Channel will give a good basic foundation in the most common school of thought in Catholicism. Finally, seeking out Fr Ripperger's lectures on Virtues and on the Seven Deadly Sins give a great foundation also.
      WHERE TO START WITH ALL THIS:
      If I would start somewhere, I would get Conversation with Christ and make about half an hour a day to do what it prescribes. When Conversation has been read, I'd go through the Catechism with one of the three books. Story of a Soul is definitely the softest, which may be a turn off, but the other two may be a bit brutal. I don't know where you sit in terms of your knowledge of Christianity.

  • @SigmarAcademy
    @SigmarAcademy 15 днів тому +20

    This stream somehow made me think even less of Catholicism than I already did. Forget Malawi, we need to focus all energy on Europe and America/Canada.
    The Pagans understand this whereas the Catholics are hampered by universalism. All that matters is saving our people.

    • @kennethruskin2710
      @kennethruskin2710 15 днів тому +4

      There's not a little irony in this as the Bible, for those that care to read it, is a story just as much about the spiritual, if not less, than it is about racial and cultural struggle. It's important to understand that before Christ essentially injected this sort Aryan-Egyptian doctrine into judaism they had not real concept of an afterlife, certainly none of judgement, but rather saw their religion, the covenant, as this contract with their storm god that they had to follow, even if they often attempted to cheat rules and break them in lawyering ways, if they wanted to racially arrive at a position of supremacy.
      This sort of ethos permeates the entirety of the old testament. Over time the Christian Church somewhat formalised a similar structure on top of this Egyptian notion of judgement in the afterlife, and the Greco-Aryan morality of objective truth and beauty. Tracts were written in racial and religious terms against jews, partly based on their rejection of Christ and so becoming this new master race, upholders of God's kingdom on Earth.
      Modern Catholicism has buried if not destroyed such tracts, and aligned themselves morally, spiritually and so on with the modern post-monarchic regime, wherever it went, even as it went against the teachings of Christ.

    • @vklnew9824
      @vklnew9824 14 днів тому +1

      This is why I believe the Christianity of Marcion of Sinope should become the default Christianity of the west.

    • @vklnew9824
      @vklnew9824 14 днів тому +1

      ​@@kennethruskin2710 you familiar Marcion of Sinope?

    • @kennethruskin2710
      @kennethruskin2710 14 днів тому +1

      @@vklnew9824 I've only heard the heresy named but not looked deeply into it. On the face of it I can already say that he commits one great error when he condemns Ialdabaoth (as good a name as any), first one borne from nous, demiourgos glorious, fashioner of matter, and only one with pure sight into forms and thoughts of the One God which he did copy.
      The head of that rebel crew, which the Greeks called Zeus, which the Norse called Thor, and the jews called Iao. In the Assyrian tradition. from which the jews derive him. this storm god overthrew his father Apsu (the artificer and creator) and waged war on Tiamat, the Magna Mater, after felling him. It corresponds to many other cultures also.
      Our fallen king, this locked away prime titan, creator of this sphere, originator of illumination into this matter, arranger of the primordial chaos and waters upon the deep, which were personified as Tiamat, is not the same as this jealous Storm god that Marcion confused him with. How might it ever be that the creator of something would demand his own work, which he himself might infinitely reproduce in plenitude, sacrificed unto himself by the very people whose vessels he also fashioned? What might be his gain? We must conclude that the one who does is his son, without vision into the noetic, without any ability to create and copy from the thoughts of God, shaped instead to rule creation before envy of his father got the better of him.
      The Greeks were not willing to throw off the yoke of the nine rebellious planets, nor the Egyptians who refused to part and embrace Aton, which is Ialdabaoth, or Apsu, even as their philosopher understood the One and the role of the first distinction, the first descendant into particularity, into some higher form of flesh.
      So while I think he does make a reasonable claim that the God of Christ is not the thunderer of earlier judaism. heck even the racial version of Zeus they torture chickens to until this day, his cosmological model is very off.

  • @TheFallingThunder
    @TheFallingThunder 16 днів тому +24

    This guy says we all want to reclaim our homelands but the only project he puts forward is a spanish language project focused on converts in malawi. Are catholics even allowed to be nationalists, because it seems like there may be fundamental conflicts between catholicism and the idea of a nation and a people.

    • @ComputingTheSoul
      @ComputingTheSoul 16 днів тому +2

      Where in the nationalist code does it say I'm not allowed to love my country and to save the souls of black pagans?
      I guess half of those living in the 19th century must have never gotten the memo.

    • @Vingul
      @Vingul 16 днів тому +24

      You don't understand, bro... what we need to do to help our own people is to expend more of our resources on random people around the world... trust me dude, it'll work...

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 16 днів тому +9

      First of all, we are subordinate to that project, which covers many countries. Malawi is the current focus of the priests.
      Secondly, to say that to love your homeland and to love and interact with other countries is somehow to be at odds is like saying that my love of my wife is at odds with my love of my son. I can do both.
      As for loving one's country, we are supposed to love it by natural law in the same way we are supposed to love our families.

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 16 днів тому +6

      @@Vingul No you don't understand. If we don't help those we can we are disobeying the same God who created our nations.
      And actually yes it's helping otherwise who the heck is Fr Frederico talking to?

    • @TheFallingThunder
      @TheFallingThunder 16 днів тому +17

      I'm not trying to be too adversarial, but you are taking resources from your people and giving them to those who aren't your people. I'm not saying this is always wrong but it's not very nationalistic, also whether it's Malawi or Tibet isn't really my point, my point is that it's not England it's not your community it's someone else's.

  • @danilopaes4058
    @danilopaes4058 16 днів тому +12

    Here in Brazil we have an actual catholic right wing renaissance and part of this discussion of yours of being alone as the only catholics amidst pagans is alien here, though actual trad catholicism was merely some years ago a fringe movement, suddendly it became as big as charismatic and now we have this mode of being: Tradsmathic Catholic which is fun and actually based. All these Tradsmathic live in constant passive-aggressive fight against this socialist-catholics called TL aligned with the socialist workers party (belive me they're worst than dems) who domminate our council of bishops, oppressing trad new seminarists . Meanwhile the pagan you talk about live in standby, not caring and being hedonistic all around

    • @esoterico7750
      @esoterico7750 15 днів тому

      What is tradsmatic

    • @danilopaes4058
      @danilopaes4058 15 днів тому +2

      @@esoterico7750 Within catholicism in Brazil there's currents of thought and the four i cited are: Trad (traditionalist), Charismatic, TL (teologia da libertação, aka socialist modernism) and the new one and most recent: Tradsmatic.
      Trads are the ones like you guys, right wink, students of history, philosophy and theology we have them by the half dozen million of young men and women, they're fringe right now because stablishment of clergy became modernist and seminarists are expelled if trad, though crescent in numbers because of reconverts meanwhile the half - assed ones leave church the actually faithful ones take their place in statistics, so you won't see much change in actual demographic.
      Charismatics do some catholicized version of evangelic charismatism
      TL stands for Theology of Liberty, it combines socialism with catholicism paradoxically, in actuality they don't believe in actual faith, they're part of communist domination tactics supporting the workers party of Brazil
      Finally Tradsmatic would be the trads that humble themselves to do the Charismatic worship and stay in love with church tradition

  • @misterkefir
    @misterkefir 16 днів тому +3

    You shold just call yourself "Chameleon Man", Mauritian. That would fit You the best I think.
    Cheers, gentlemen. Thanks for the stream.

    • @JBlackjackp
      @JBlackjackp 16 днів тому +1

      No more name changes.

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 16 днів тому +10

      Any more of this and I'll make a new channel and it'll be even more pretentious

    • @JBlackjackp
      @JBlackjackp 16 днів тому

      @@renaissanceman419 probably something like magisterial synthesizing or something.

    • @ComputingTheSoul
      @ComputingTheSoul 16 днів тому +1

      Το σύναξης της εκκλησίας

    • @NathanielJ.Franco
      @NathanielJ.Franco 16 днів тому

      lol anons

  • @hamesparde9888
    @hamesparde9888 16 днів тому +1

    Come on Dave! Everyone knows you're German! I've never been to Norway, but that doesn't change the fact that I am 55.8% Scandinavian. It's my spiritual homeland!

  • @VagueElaboration
    @VagueElaboration 16 днів тому +2

    The internet is kind of a ghost town bro

  • @JustineBrownsBookshelf
    @JustineBrownsBookshelf 16 днів тому +1

    Excited for this

  • @SNEED_FEED
    @SNEED_FEED 16 днів тому +2

    This guest is brilliant

  • @SiniAnimations
    @SiniAnimations 16 днів тому +1

    I feel like the only broad influence on youtube who has been successful at making premodern ways of thinking accessible to modern people has been Jonathan Pageau.
    As Dave correctly pointed out, meeting people where they are/helping them understand how religion relates to their current lives in an immediate sense is the real challenge here.

  • @theodosius395
    @theodosius395 16 днів тому +4

    Wagner W

  • @chaosmos24
    @chaosmos24 10 днів тому

    It would be interesting to see these guys talk to Jay Dyer.

  • @John-Brown
    @John-Brown 15 днів тому

    29:15 Renaissance Man's advice for daily Bible study

  • @aaronbarreguin.4211
    @aaronbarreguin.4211 16 днів тому

    Good conversation with old friends.

  • @TK-en2hq
    @TK-en2hq 16 днів тому +5

    Ok bud, I'll bite. I have a copy of my orthodox study bible on hand (much less used than it aught to be). What section should i read to get rid of this vague existential dread, depression, and desire to no longer live?
    Not baiting, just curious as to where to start with the method suggested of discussing things with god.

    • @ComputingTheSoul
      @ComputingTheSoul 16 днів тому +5

      I'm renaissance man on another account. I would start with the Gospel of John. The High Priestly Prayer of John 13-17 could be a good start.
      The place where, before Christ is about to die for us, he talks intimately to his disciples.

    • @kevinpulliam3661
      @kevinpulliam3661 16 днів тому

      Complete Protestant and modern way of viewing it. Christianity is much more than the Bible

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 16 днів тому +3

      @@kevinpulliam3661 Our own spiritual books tell us to meditate on the scripture. The Rosary is literally a scriptural devotion what are you talking about?

    • @nietzschesmadman4026
      @nietzschesmadman4026 15 днів тому

      Put your Bible back in your nightstand and reread it after taking a heroic dose of mushrooms.

    • @bartholomewthered9143
      @bartholomewthered9143 15 днів тому +1

      @@nietzschesmadman4026Is there a single one of you Nietzsche acolytes who isn’t just a hedonistic 90s liberal that happens to dislike negroes and Latins?
      The entire sphere seems to boil down to “I want to do drugs and have weird sex without being nagged/criticised for it. This makes me more right wing than every other right winger in history.”

  • @kooistradurk
    @kooistradurk 15 днів тому +3

    lol; the Anglo cathsplaining European history. The late 2010s was a nice time indeed tho. Kinda miss the discord times.

  • @williambranch4283
    @williambranch4283 16 днів тому

    Balanced right-left hemisphere cognition is hard to develop.

  • @jibdee
    @jibdee 16 днів тому +15

    Meditative prayer and missionary work in Malawi ... Bravo christkeks--bravo.

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 16 днів тому +1

      Yeah, and we will win too.

    • @bartholomewthered9143
      @bartholomewthered9143 15 днів тому +8

      And yet he’s accomplishing more irl than writing substack posts about half-baked Nietzschean schlock ever will. Funny that

    • @AA-ki6zn
      @AA-ki6zn 12 днів тому

      @@bartholomewthered9143 Such as? Asking sincerely.

  • @vorynrosethorn903
    @vorynrosethorn903 16 днів тому +3

    We need to build an intellectual pipeline.
    You can't expect post-modernists to read theology and understand the language, let alone the meaning.
    I agree that Latin is an essential skill for our noble and monk classes, it would probably be for the best if this guy designed a course for it to go along with AA's trivium.
    Also he is correct that we must centralize and grow in wisdom. Personally I wouldn't recommend putting all the eggs in with one basket as the regime already have modernists within the Church, they could easily take advantage of the fact that young Catholic converts are very commonly caesaropapist. I recommend keeping channels open with conservatives within several denominations, and thus if there is a crack down we can easily congeal, potentially enacting a hostile takeover, submitting to a sympathetic hierarchy or breaking off into something that can from a stance of theological validity quickly restart Christianity from the position held in less kind times, with apostolic succession still intact after the possible renunciation by apostasy of various currently compromised hierarchies.
    Our loyalty should be to our people, and we need to form centralised organisation, until a time of Kings clergy will likely be vital in this, we should also form our own communities on top of connecting people, for now people can drive, but as time goes on we will need to condense for mutual safety, both from ideological pathogens and the world as it is increasingly coming to be. For those without wealth or much hope of it buying land and putting up yurts or other cheap structures is probably necessary, the priority is virtue and the nurturing of families, not personal comfort our the temptations of modernity.
    There is a lot to be done, but there is plenty to learn from in the past, so long as we know what to look for.
    Having multiple interlocking contingencies would be wise, other than central organisational bodies we can afford to have a foothold in any areas of potential gain. Lawyers and moles would be of outweighed value even if I don't think they are of use in the actual solutions.
    The Pagans will be onboard once the Christians shed the facile pretence at niceness, it is not moral to allow others to fall into danger by ignorance, nor to leave the vulnerable defenceless. If Christians are uncompromising like those of the past the pagans, being vibe based larpers, with start to acknowledge our inheritance of the civilisation of the classical world. One point this means is that women must absolutely be confined to their sphere, the reason vitalitist movements lose vitality is that women are playing a very different game, and once you let them it will start changing the rules and atmosphere to suit that one. They are socially dependent creatures, once the norms are cemented you will have to hold them back from a purity spiral of prestige signalling by going towards the extreme with norm enforcement and social bullying.

    • @robertpatter5509
      @robertpatter5509 16 днів тому

      Those Pagans I guarantee want the Knights Templar back. Then they stop being Pagan. I guarantee it

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 16 днів тому

      I'm currently teaching a course, I might write an article on it if people are interested on my Substack

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 16 днів тому +2

      Actually what am I talking about I already have an hour long stream describing how to learn Latin and Greek!

    • @WallGon
      @WallGon 15 днів тому

      ​@@robertpatter5509 who killed the knights templar? Who disarmed the teutonic and hospitalers? Let's see...

  • @MrDanno2
    @MrDanno2 16 днів тому

    @Distributist thanks for the workout podcast material! Get some!

  • @SirSomnolent
    @SirSomnolent 16 днів тому +4

    Any concerns about Christian nationalism subverting or disavowing nationalist movements historically in 20th century? I see Christianity and nationalism as having to be completely separate things to keep my sanity.

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 16 днів тому +1

      I don't think that the 20th century nationalist movements were fully compatible ideologically so you're going to jettison something one way or another. That doesn't mean that the nation is not loved.

    • @vorynrosethorn903
      @vorynrosethorn903 16 днів тому +2

      Nationalism is liberal, the arguments of the Christian Nationalists are mostly pre-liberal, Christian understandings of the function of government. While they are technically correct they seem not to understand the context of their arguments or the logical conclusions of them.
      They probably need an understanding of Church history and the ideological development of politics over the last few centuries. The are a bit like the peasants crusade, they have the spirit, and something approximating a purpose, but they are bumbling around all over the place, with very little idea of where they are or what they face, I fear it shall end the same way.

    • @intenzityd3181
      @intenzityd3181 16 днів тому

      @@vorynrosethorn903 Nationalism is very much NOT liberal. The etymology comes from the latin for birth - a race of people, large group of people with common ancestry and language. You cannot be a nationalist and a universalist or liberal. That is some of the worst christcuck cope I've read in ages.

  • @Vingul
    @Vingul 16 днів тому +19

    Confusing stream with only a hair-thin connection to its title. Expected something far more tabloid and was, therefore, genuinely disappointed by all the intellectual theology talk.

    • @robertpatter5509
      @robertpatter5509 16 днів тому +6

      Spirit precedes Aesthetics.
      You need an Ethos, Spirit first.
      It's like a tank.
      You need a fuel source to drive it. Then you need a crew to man it. Then you need mechanics to maintain it.
      Priests often propelled the Warrior as the fuel.
      Look at the Knights Templar.
      They just did not walk around aimlessly in armor for no reason. They were propelled by Priests first.
      They are the Body. Priests are the Mind.
      You need both a Body and Mind.

    • @Vingul
      @Vingul 16 днів тому +8

      ​@@robertpatter5509 It's not at all that I have anything against theology or intellectual discussion, it's that this stream didn't live up to expectations. It's a good stream in itself, but I wanted red meat.

    • @facilegoose9347
      @facilegoose9347 16 днів тому

      _"Cesare Borgia as Pope- have I been understood?"_
      Space Viking Mormon Outer Party, Thomas Malthus Enthusiast Promethean Inner Party. Blowback from Anglo Elite Capture by Evangelical Scofieldist heathen can't be allowed to sabotage over things like abortion absolutism, _less is more._

    • @Vingul
      @Vingul 16 днів тому +7

      ​@@robertpatter5509 P.S. I think there's a whole lot to criticise about the DR, which is why I expected a much broader view within the topic. Not that it matters all that much, I'm partly trying and possibly failing to be humorous here. Distributist can talk about whatever he pleases, it's good stuff. But the lack of spirit in the "DR" is one of its greatest flaws. There's a lot of "negative vision", anti-ideological sentiment around these parts, as if we *want* to be without purpose. Hardly feel at home with the scene anymore, borther. Actually that's been the case for years. Anyway, thanks for your well-phrased comment.

    • @vorynrosethorn903
      @vorynrosethorn903 16 днів тому

      I hope there will be further streams to remedy this, I'd be interested in more of what this chap has to say.

  • @chaseharrison2064
    @chaseharrison2064 4 дні тому

    BAP?

  • @torinmccabe
    @torinmccabe 16 днів тому +4

    I went on a week-long silent meditation retreat and each night they played a video of the founder singing versus in Hindi. The last day he sang in English and me and a few other younger men could not stop laughing. What was so beautiful in Hindi sounded utterly ridiculous in common modern gutter English

    • @donjuanmckenzie4897
      @donjuanmckenzie4897 16 днів тому

      Common gutter English is the sweetest music to my ears. I love my own.

    • @vorynrosethorn903
      @vorynrosethorn903 16 днів тому

      Yeah, English is not well equipped for music or poetry, also it helps if you don't understand what is said as you won't spot the words that were picked to sound good.
      The Latin languages, Russian and Japanese are all easily conformed to music. We English have the hymns, but not many people know them anymore and the newer ones are unfortunately influenced by secular music (which is to say they are not nice to listen to and somewhat demeaning to the purpose). On the plus side folk music still works in English fine. And unlike the Chinese our language doesn't sound like a snake having a coughing fit, so foreigners listen to many of our songs and pick up on the tune and not that the lyrics sound stupid.

    • @jameslave98
      @jameslave98 15 днів тому

      Lol says a mud person

  • @thewh00ster
    @thewh00ster 16 днів тому +12

    >call video “Critiquing the Dissident Right”
    >actually just critiquing BAP and neo-pagans
    LMAO what cowards

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 16 днів тому +14

      Who am I afraid of?

    • @vorynrosethorn903
      @vorynrosethorn903 16 днів тому +3

      They got sidetracked speaking about Latin and educational resources.

    • @evan7391
      @evan7391 16 днів тому +4

      @@vorynrosethorn903 the most based tangent to possibly go on lol

    • @robertpatter5509
      @robertpatter5509 16 днів тому +6

      ​​@@renaissanceman419 Maybe it's not a WHO but a TOPIC.
      Race,IQ and Civilization. There it is. Which means Universalism is incorrect by definition.
      One cannot transpose ones culture upon another and assume it's success. Only that people can be them who can be them.
      Which excludes a large population of the world by necessity.
      Certain parts of Africa is Christian. Do they behave like you? No. Nor can they.
      It's a Spirit issue. One cannot be part of another Spirit. Progressive people tried this when they wanted to " Find themselves " in Asia back the 60's and 70's. What they found was Charles Sobraj waiting to expell them from HIS culture.
      They were killed by Charles Sobraj.
      Those Progressive people just thought they were just like them. Just needed the "Right ideas" because deep down is an American waiting to come out. Turns out this is false.
      Instead Nepal and other places became their tomb.

    • @donjuanmckenzie4897
      @donjuanmckenzie4897 16 днів тому +2

      ​@@robertpatter5509You can judge the African bio-weapon harshly because morality and truth writ large is universal. Otherwise, it would be like calling a pack of hyenas evil.

  • @presleyalbertclark6742
    @presleyalbertclark6742 15 днів тому

    is there a bibliography of the works he mentioned?

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 15 днів тому

      Sure, I'll post it in a second comment since there's tons of links

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 15 днів тому +2

      Okay that didn't post so I'll just list them:
      For instruction on mental prayer, Ways of Mental Prayer by Dom Vitalis Lehodey is recommended, but so also is Conversation with Christ by Fr Peter Rohrbach. This latter is a lot shorter, but some content may be objectionable to some of the Eastern Orthodox.
      For books to actually meditate on, the New Testament is recommended (Especially the Gospels). The three other books I recommend (Which would be fit for your catholic grandmother) are: Story of a Soul by St Therese of Lisieux, Preparation For Death by St Alphonsus Ligori and Humility of Heart by Fr Cajetan Mary Da Begamo.
      For theological instruction, I should have mentioned the Catechism. There's an edition with Theological Commentary which would be worth seeking out. Besides this, start by praying the Psalms and Learning the Proverbs. A good commentary in English is the Ancient Christian Commentary Series on Proverbs, Ecclesiastes and The Song of Solomon (This Last book is especially hard so I would explicitly avoid that). For a longer list, Paragraph 41 of Spiritus Paraclitus gives an order of reading.
      Beyond this, it is worth subscribing to Militant Thomist and Distinguo. Likewise, finding the Aquinas 101 playlist on the Thomistic Institute Channel will give a good basic foundation in the most common school of thought in Catholicism. Finally, seeking out Fr Ripperger's lectures on Virtues and on the Seven Deadly Sins give a great foundation also.

    • @presleyalbertclark6742
      @presleyalbertclark6742 13 днів тому

      @@renaissanceman419 thanks very much

  • @thoughtful1233
    @thoughtful1233 15 днів тому +7

    Christianity is just an earlier stage of the cancer. We need to have rather sharp ingroup/outgroup concern lines that are based mostly on genetics via the eye test. We can't have a utopian worldwide project. Our attitude to outsiders should be one of fairness but not concern.

    • @bartholomewthered9143
      @bartholomewthered9143 15 днів тому +4

      I have two questions for you and anyone else who adopts this position.
      a) The zenith of Europe, objectively, occurred when it was still a Christian civilisation. If Christianity is part of the decline, why has its collapsed caused the objective decline of Europe to accelerate further? Why was European identity strongest under Christianity?
      b) Are you actually familiar with Christian doctrine and history, or do you rely on Nietzsche’s deranged and ahistoric ramblings as filtered through a half-dozen pseudo-intellectual Twitter accounts for your Christianity takes?

    • @thoughtful1233
      @thoughtful1233 15 днів тому

      @@bartholomewthered9143 Not interested enough to hold this conversation, but a) I don't think it's as simple as I put it. I speak in disgust. The fall of Christianity has been bad for the West in many respects. b) I am quite familiar, but that's always relative. I'd put myself in the 97th percentile or so.

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 15 днів тому +3

      So you're saying we should behave like a stereotypical Jew but with our races?

    • @thoughtful1233
      @thoughtful1233 15 днів тому +1

      @@renaissanceman419 Fairness.
      We don't need to be out to hurt others or leech off of them, we just need to distinguish their project from ours and not concern ourselves with theirs.

  • @davejohnson8371
    @davejohnson8371 15 днів тому +1

    Jesus had something to say about those who would adorn themselves in vestments and wish to be called “Father”

  • @GertAllen
    @GertAllen 16 днів тому +11

    Boohoo they are mistweating the poor poor jews OwO

  • @dogeofphobos3524
    @dogeofphobos3524 16 днів тому +11

    Calling the Catholic Church a stable and lasting institution is like calling the Windsors the most powerful family.

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 16 днів тому +4

      Of course you'd think that, you're an English speaker.

    • @kevinpulliam3661
      @kevinpulliam3661 16 днів тому +4

      I mean if the Catholic Church is anything it’s stable. What other institution is as old as it?

    • @cesarcampos8746
      @cesarcampos8746 15 днів тому

      ​@@kevinpulliam3661it isnt unchanging, it has adapted even the latin mass isn't original

    • @dogeofphobos3524
      @dogeofphobos3524 15 днів тому

      @@renaissanceman419 Bold of you to assume I can't simultaneously hold both opinions to be both true and false.

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 15 днів тому +2

      @@dogeofphobos3524 >The Church is collapsing
      >It's strong in non English speaking countries
      Pick one

  • @r.a.t.t.s1686
    @r.a.t.t.s1686 16 днів тому +14

    Nietzche doesn't understand Christianity? 😂

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 16 днів тому +31

      Yes

    • @JustineBrownsBookshelf
      @JustineBrownsBookshelf 16 днів тому +25

      Yes. His concept of Christianity is based on Protestantism, so it’s limited.

    • @r.a.t.t.s1686
      @r.a.t.t.s1686 16 днів тому +4

      @@renaissanceman419 no true Christian

    • @r.a.t.t.s1686
      @r.a.t.t.s1686 16 днів тому

      @@JustineBrownsBookshelf ah, so the pet version of catholicism you toy with is safe? Interesting, I'm sure that bulwark of civilization never crossed his mind...

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 16 днів тому +1

      @@r.a.t.t.s1686 Yeah, he was raised by heretics, of course we couldn't expect him to understand it properly.

  • @hamesparde9888
    @hamesparde9888 16 днів тому +5

    Sorry but BAP is cooler than both of you guys. If people don't think you are cool then most of them won't care. Especially young men. I'm not against Christianity in any way, but when you go on about it too much it makes a lot of people who aren't Christian just role their eyes. I'm not sure how you get around that, because obviously you need to talk about it if you want people to convert.

    • @nobobonobo
      @nobobonobo 16 днів тому +1

      He is jewish

    • @kevinpulliam3661
      @kevinpulliam3661 16 днів тому +1

      Caring about what is “cool” rather than what is true is what got soul crushing progressivism into power. You can beat degeneracy with “based degeneracy”

    • @courtilz1012
      @courtilz1012 15 днів тому +2

      They need some help from Valentina Gomez? BAP plays on that primitivist/vitalist thing some of the more colourful fascist figures from the interwar years exemplified. I think people have written about how this was seen as borderline comedic at the time, even if also serious. BAP seems to channel that quite well.

    • @nobobonobo
      @nobobonobo 15 днів тому +1

      @@hamesparde9888 he is born of Israeli semen

    • @navienslavement
      @navienslavement 15 днів тому +1

      Middle aged Romanian jew got these nerds by their balls

  • @Jigsaw0097
    @Jigsaw0097 16 днів тому +3

    Jay Dyer. People should check out Jay Dyer. Orthodoxy is the way.

    • @kevinpulliam3661
      @kevinpulliam3661 16 днів тому +1

      Nah

    • @navienslavement
      @navienslavement 15 днів тому +3

      Jay doesn't represent the orthodox ethos, he's just as western as any American protestant