I felt bad for Moxxie. He never knew that his mother who is killed by his father and his father make him to do killing that Moxxie never want as a kid. I wanted to hug Moxxie and tell him he always be loved by his mother and Millie, who always loved him until the end.
@@melissadesmena2847 I think in my theory if Moxxie does find out that his own father kill his mother, he would neither just avenge her death or afraid that his father will do the same thing to Moxxie as a child through adult. If he wasn't betrayed by his ex, we would never see him met Blitz or married Millie
@@Veanixonn_ If Moxxie does found out for what he did, he would never forgive himself for killing his own mother, the only loving parent who always love her son and hatred her husband. If Moxxie did, he would have nightmare of him killing her and blaming himself. Crimson is the only one who sees kindness, love and caring is the sign of weakness and by get rid of it, he can use his own son to kill the weakness. People like Crimson are nothing but monsters and they can be easily hurt those you love and care.
Viziepop actually nailed this episode. With all the dramatic scenery of the backstory, moxies mom overall being a saint. This is the best episode yet for sure.
It’s interesting to note Moxxie didn’t have a problem shooting the guy tied up. He was confused but he wasn’t afraid and would have done it, probably thinking it was just a game. Imagine if his mother hadn’t stopped him. If he had taken the shot and then been heavily praised and probably rewarded by his dad.
Well he was practicing on scarecrow like targets, and his mom seemed to be proud that he had good aim, prior to his father almost forcing him to shoot the guy, so that makes sense
Seeing Crimson's foot touch his Wife's foot indicates that she was forced to be married in a mafia family or she could've been taken against her will to marry him. Resulting in giving birth to Moxxie, seeing him as the only positivity in her miserable marriage. Not wanting her son to be a killer like his father. Finally having enough and confronting him about leaving this life with Moxxie and his motives to control everything he owns. So he might've kidnapped her when Moxxie was asleep and drowned her. Resulting in the heel popping up when Crimson and Moxxie were at the boat.
If what you’re saying turns out to be true, there’s a parallel with Stolas there. Just like Moxxie’s mother, Stolas was also forced into a marriage he never wanted and Octavia was the only positive thing he had in his life. I wonder what the circumstances were with Blitz’s family. Whether there is reason to believe his mother was forced into a marriage or not.
This is the most heartbreaking scene, not just in this episode but in all of episodes. Not just Helluva boss, any show! I was literally shaking and sobbing when seeing this scene😭
@@AdaminTranzit well idk, based on the fact he has a loving wife, a good job which, involves killing people for money, seems like 'being soft' (aka not being a murderous asshole like his dad) is working out for him pretty well.
@@AdaminTranzit Here is the thing though , she wasn't. She was all in for him practicing shooting at a young age , she just didn't want him to kill someone . She was just trying to protect him a little while longer . She probably knew eventually that he would have to kill , but Moxxie looks around 5 in the flashback , she just didn't want the weight on someone who didn't understand .
@@arcticwolflover263 It would be the safest but not the best for the children's psyche That isnt my logic, its just logical in general, i never said its the best way for the child, ir will obviously harm him and make him weaker emotionally but it would keep him way safer in a way.
The expressions are beautifully animated, you can see baby Moxxies face change several times as he's examining the tail and realizing it's his mother, the fear of his father the horror and trauma after he pushed the block. Facial expressions is animation are so vital but so hard to nail perfectly because subtlety and small but evolving changes are key.
This episode made me hate Crimson with all my heart, my blood was boiling, and I was feeling like Millie this episode. She was conveying my feelings about her father-in-law just perfectly.
@@beetlejuice831 Me neither, but Crimson did it, he managed to make everyone hate him just by slapping around his son and being controlling. He even killed his own wife out of cold blood.
Only good thing Crimson did was kill Chaz. The friendless horsefucker practically painted a target on Moxxie's back, but at least Crimson drew out his death slowly and horribly.
Moxie's mom was his protector/ his rock and after his dad killed her, he had no one and had to find a way to survive on his own. Eventually, Mille became his rock/ protector and vise versa. ❤
I would like to see a flashback to the day they met, when they (moxxie and Millie) got married (even if we have a photo) and even when they got engaged..the episode just destroyed me.. poor moxxie.. but millie doesn't know that moxxie's mother was killed by her father since even moxxie doesn't know it..? ( I think..)
@@dasilvaolivia6559 some speculate that either mom was kidnapped or forced into marrying Crimson. I also don't think Moxxie knows either...unless he didn't as a child but that he got suspicions as he grew older, but he feared his dad more because Crim already controlled him.
I like to say when looking at these comments that Moxie didn’t kill his mom. The clothes are different and male, there was even a male grunt when he got push into the lake, the horns is a sign of a male, and the tail is different cause there are no dots like the mother. The shoe that float is his mother’s but a theory is that those in the bottom of the ocean shifted once a new body floated down so the mother’s corpse could have shifted and made her lose her shoe, making it float up.
One think disturbed me. In pilot Moxxie dreamed about that he killed his parents. I really was surprised that on the next episode Moxxie met his dad, because I though that he was so evil that he killed his parentsor they where so bad to him that he killed them. I know why he want to kill father in the dream, but mother? Did he deep in his heart felt that his mother "abandomed" him and he didn't do anything to safe Moxxie from him?
Well if you think about it. It was just a Pilot, they made few adjustments to the show which made more sense: they change voice actors/actress (Millie being a western and stoles sounding more royal and gay), Biltz supposed to have three sisters but turn the oldest as the mother, and now they change this. It’s understandable but I like how it turn out. Even though it was way twisted than the pilot
If you look at his expression right before he woke up and the way he phrases it in the pilot, I’m pretty sure he didn’t actually like that dream, he just preferred it to Blitz watching him sleep. Maybe his parents were originally meant to be good parents.
"Well I was dreaming my parents were being murdered... But now? I'd like to go back to that." He clearly wasn't enjoying the dream, you can even see him uncomfortably tossing and turning as one does during a nightmare.
Dang, I never expected Richard could play such a threatening villain as Crimson. Of course he’s played villains before but I could never take them seriously.
(Moxxie wakes up and sees Blitz.) Blitz: "whatcha dreamin' about?" Moxxie: "well, I was dreaming about my parents being murdered. but now...I'd like to go back to that." Retcon Joke aside, Moxxie clearly took after his mother and continues to be the best character of the show as he chose to break the cycle of violence that his dad tried to pass onto him by being a loving husband to Millie, and having a moral compass, despite being a professional assassin. Seriously, the first episode of season one had him having a problem murdering an average family, arguing: "I can understand killing a shitty dad, or a Mob Family." (yeah, CLEARLY Moxxie was referring to his own dad there. neat foreshadowing.)
I don't think the demon they drowned was her because if you looked at the demon's tail and his mother's tails they look different cuz his mom didn't have the stripes on her's. His father likely have drowned her first beforehand when the heel popped out of the ocean (I did think it was his mom he drowned at first though 😭)
When I watched this episode and saw the person with their head covered the bag. I was really hoping that wasn’t his mom and then when the heel floated up I just teared up
@@nerdycookiebunny856 movement of the water probably made it float up or it was probably stuck somewhere and when the body that was thrown in probably mad the shoe unstuck and float up
@@nerdycookiebunny856 it didn't really make it clear that she was dead, she could have ran away and lost her shoe in the process and he used that to maybe make it seem like she was dead
Tbh I hate him more than Stella. Stella is pretty insufferable, but she's not forcing her kid to marry anyone, or taking her out on the lake to murder someone and telling her "that'll happen to you too if you anger me".
It's refreshing to see that not all imps/denizens of Hell are evil/demented/you name it Demons who savor in tormenting others. That there are some good souls in hell who want to who want to make the lives of others better. Moxxies mother is/was a good soul who wanted Moxxie to live a happy life.
Tbh I really love this episode this probably might be my favourites this scene made me so emotional I was going to cry moxxies mom is the greatest moms I ever seen in a adult cartoon.
Because Crimson is way more grounded and realistic in terms of characterization. This is someone who you could genuinely live with in real life. With him you always know, whatever he does to you is personal
His mother was from the lights of heaven and Crimson was nothing but a devil worse than lucifer. At least, lucifer loves his daughter with all his hearts
I think some ppl are a lil confused. The imp that Moxxie’s dad made him kill was just some random imp that ‘crossed’ his dad. Moxxie’s dad already killed Moxxie’s mom before that. Moxxie’s mom’s tail has no patterns besides three white dots at the end of her tail, the random imp had a striped patterned tail. I’m guessing the imp landed on the shoe when he fell in the water, and that’s why Moxxie’s mom’s shoe floated back up at the end 👽🤙🏻
It was proven that he went out to sea without Moxxie and threw her in, but then they went back out to steal some stuff from the water, revealing her shoe floating up.
this is so amazing and such a twist i wish they didnt take 4 months to make a episode but its 100% worth it because how jaw-dropping they are (EDIT ive never gotten so many likes tysm)
Tbh I'm okay with the wait time because so far it has always been worth it. Great art, effects, story, etc.. Even their worst episode still isn't a bad episode, y'know?
This part honesty almost made me cry, imagine people or children in real life going through this. Helluva boss and hazbin hotel show very real and powerful events, I feel so bad how this could relate to the real world. 😢
Okay I might be the only one who noticed this but like, the imp who crimson wanted Moxxie to shoot kinda looked like striker. Like how his eyes were in that swirly pattern, the horns on his back (striker doesn't have his on his back but on his tail), the hair, his actual horns, and this is a stretch but his teeth. I don't know, Helluva boss has always been about the small details, so maybe this is pointing to something.
I have a feeling maybe it wasn't an arrange marriage or anything like that like people theorize but I believe that Crimson was a regular IMP in Hell raising a family but since Imps are the lowest of the low he felt like becoming a mafia member was the best way to provide more efficient for the family and over time crimson father changed thanks too all the greed moxies mom noticed the change into someone she doesn't know anymore. And over time moxies mom began to loose love interest but stuck around for moxies sake.
At first, I thought Crimson was nothing more than some abusive mob boss father figure, someone I could give no shits about. But now that I've seen Moxxie's backstory, I feel really bad for Mox and scared of Crimson. And, like the mob boss says... ( 1:18 )
Crimson reminds me a lot of Don Leno from Shark tale, where they both want their sons to do the same thing they do, but their sons both refuse to do that tradition
What I think was little Moxxie was checking out the cement block because it's his first drowning and he didn't know what it was for until he realized it. Like, "Why is Mr. Imp's tail wrapped tightly around it? ...wait" He was checking why or if the tail was truly wrapped around...and tight. As for mom. Nope, she most likely died days or weeks prior to that. I take that lake as the regular dumping/drowning site of Greed citizens, not just Crim. Notice how it doesn't have currents, therefor all those floating keepsakes have been stuck in the same for so long, that means they're placed right above the drowned person. And the shoe came out far away from the boat (also last hint, the tip of the imp's tail doesn't have spots like Moxxie's mom does).
Even in a show as violent as Helluva Boss, this scene which involves Moxxie's flashback is really dark. Jeepers, Moxxie definitely doesn't deserve this.😨😬
I cried with this scene, so truth about this world we lived in.....and something like this still exists. That show the dark side of society how he could do that to a child....his child Horrible!
the saddest part of it all is knowing that his father killed his mother without him even knowing it and unfortunately he couldn't do anything to help her.
Crimson is most definitely the most Darkest and most horrifying villians in all of Helluva Boss he is definitely as bad as it gets when it comes to being the worst Villains He should definitely be considered Hell’s Hell’s Satan after Witnessing everything he did to Moxxie in his childhood lord only knows how Stolas Grew up with Stella but that’s an episode for another day
Moxxie has daddy issues, Blitzø has daddy issues, Stolas has daddy issues, I have daddy issues!! Are there any other people with daddy issues I should know about!?!?
I'm pretty sure it's not Moxxie's mom being thrown in the water, you can see by the tail and the hands that are way too big to be hers (hers had three spots on the tail and the rest was red,she also had white gloves?or maybe not gloves but white hands) , horns were bigger and different too, sure it's completely fair to assume she was _also_ thrown like that but not by Moxxie. or who knows, chances are she'll come back sometime somehow, you never know how karma comes back!
People think that crimson dround moxxies mother but that ain’t her who sunk down bc 1. The person who got the bag on there head got black&white horns so it’s a male 2. It sound like a male 3. Why would moxxies mother would dress up like that and 4. Idk why people listen to theory people
It's funny how later in this scene, Crimson threatens to hurt Millie only to see moment later, Millie crashes the wedding like a total badass to get Moxxie back. Crimson thinking he can over power Millie is just funny to me.
If that's what they did to start off Moxxie's backstory, i can't fucking WAIT to see how they show Alastor's with HIS mom! That's what I'm looking forward to the most in Hazbin.
It's all about the design. It is not by chance that we were shown the lower part of the face of that demon. She had three freckles on her cheeks just like Moxie. And the tails are similar, they're just different colors. The color, fur and horns came from his father.
If you noticed the person Moxxie "Killed" as a child wasn't his mother he pushed off the boat that was another person. Crimson been killed moxxies mother on the boat before he brought Moxxie along to kill something.
Am I the only one who thinks that Crimson is a more realistic portrayal of an abuser than Stella? At first he seems nice and polite to Blitz, Moxxie and Millie before slowly revealing his true self and literally behind the closed doors we really see how abusive he is. His son is afraid of him, he ruled his family with an iron fist and his wife was also afraid of him. We don't know much about the afterlife but abusers like Crimson are too real.
For anyone who dosent know not hate ❤ the imp wasn't moxxies mother! Movies mother had left the shoes were simply him leaving her wardrobe in the lake you can check with the tail and horns
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I felt bad for Moxxie. He never knew that his mother who is killed by his father and his father make him to do killing that Moxxie never want as a kid. I wanted to hug Moxxie and tell him he always be loved by his mother and Millie, who always loved him until the end.
You think he doesn't know for his mother ? Later when he grow up
@@melissadesmena2847 I think in my theory if Moxxie does find out that his own father kill his mother, he would neither just avenge her death or afraid that his father will do the same thing to Moxxie as a child through adult. If he wasn't betrayed by his ex, we would never see him met Blitz or married Millie
Moxxie killed his mother unknowingly
@@Veanixonn_ If Moxxie does found out for what he did, he would never forgive himself for killing his own mother, the only loving parent who always love her son and hatred her husband.
If Moxxie did, he would have nightmare of him killing her and blaming himself. Crimson is the only one who sees kindness, love and caring is the sign of weakness and by get rid of it, he can use his own son to kill the weakness. People like Crimson are nothing but monsters and they can be easily hurt those you love and care.
@@annaesparza6157 Yes right 🤔 I agree thanks !
Viziepop actually nailed this episode. With all the dramatic scenery of the backstory, moxies mom overall being a saint. This is the best episode yet for sure.
This is the same exact comment I saw in the actual episode lol
All of the episodes are the best!
@@excitablepack7076 except 1 episode from 1 season and 2 episode from 2 season (IMO)
@@Clownfan137 what’s wrong with Season 2 Episode 2?
She didn’t write it tho.
It’s interesting to note Moxxie didn’t have a problem shooting the guy tied up. He was confused but he wasn’t afraid and would have done it, probably thinking it was just a game.
Imagine if his mother hadn’t stopped him. If he had taken the shot and then been heavily praised and probably rewarded by his dad.
Well he was practicing on scarecrow like targets, and his mom seemed to be proud that he had good aim, prior to his father almost forcing him to shoot the guy, so that makes sense
Seeing Crimson's foot touch his Wife's foot indicates that she was forced to be married in a mafia family or she could've been taken against her will to marry him.
Resulting in giving birth to Moxxie, seeing him as the only positivity in her miserable marriage. Not wanting her son to be a killer like his father.
Finally having enough and confronting him about leaving this life with Moxxie and his motives to control everything he owns. So he might've kidnapped her when Moxxie was asleep and drowned her. Resulting in the heel popping up when Crimson and Moxxie were at the boat.
I thought the same thing, I truely feel bad for Moxxie and his mom
Just like Stolas🤯
It's the same thing Stolas and Stella. Crimson didn't marry Moxxie's Mom out of love, but because he needed to produce "an heir to his throne"
If what you’re saying turns out to be true, there’s a parallel with Stolas there. Just like Moxxie’s mother, Stolas was also forced into a marriage he never wanted and Octavia was the only positive thing he had in his life. I wonder what the circumstances were with Blitz’s family. Whether there is reason to believe his mother was forced into a marriage or not.
@@shortwinger3 even if it's not true, It's fun to theorize
This is the most heartbreaking scene, not just in this episode but in all of episodes. Not just Helluva boss, any show! I was literally shaking and sobbing when seeing this scene😭
Not any show
how old are you 💀
@@miguelthekewlkid272Literally.
R.I.P Moxxie's Mom. She raised his son well in such a harsh environment his dad created, Poor woman.💔😢
@@AdaminTranzit well idk, based on the fact he has a loving wife, a good job which, involves killing people for money, seems like 'being soft' (aka not being a murderous asshole like his dad) is working out for him pretty well.
@@AdaminTranzit Here is the thing though , she wasn't. She was all in for him practicing shooting at a young age , she just didn't want him to kill someone . She was just trying to protect him a little while longer . She probably knew eventually that he would have to kill , but Moxxie looks around 5 in the flashback , she just didn't want the weight on someone who didn't understand .
She'd loved Millie if she had lived long enough to meet her.
@@AdaminTranzit so by your logic she should have let her father train a vulnerable 5 year old imp to be a killing machine like his father?
@@arcticwolflover263 It would be the safest but not the best for the children's psyche
That isnt my logic, its just logical in general, i never said its the best way for the child, ir will obviously harm him and make him weaker emotionally but it would keep him way safer in a way.
The expressions are beautifully animated, you can see baby Moxxies face change several times as he's examining the tail and realizing it's his mother, the fear of his father the horror and trauma after he pushed the block. Facial expressions is animation are so vital but so hard to nail perfectly because subtlety and small but evolving changes are key.
That clearly wasn't his mother. The tail and horns were completely different.
@@alexjewett7455 yeah
@@alexjewett7455 the shoe at the end is his mother’s shoe
@@alexjewett7455 The tail was the same and the horns were sawed off, why do you one of her shoes floated to the top right after?
@@kylohpig1638 it was also several feet away from the boat.
1:25 😱HE’S EVEN WORSE THEN I HAD IMAGINE😰
Even wore than blitzo’s dad
I think he will be the most darkest helluva boss villains
Only Vivziepop Villian that managed to be worse than Valentino.
And I think the first to officialy clasify as pure evil
Only 4 months until the summertime and Hazbin Hotel makes its comeback.
This episode made me hate Crimson with all my heart, my blood was boiling, and I was feeling like Millie this episode. She was conveying my feelings about her father-in-law just perfectly.
I didn't know it was possible to hate someone more than Valentino
@@beetlejuice831 Me neither, but Crimson did it, he managed to make everyone hate him just by slapping around his son and being controlling. He even killed his own wife out of cold blood.
I like him
Only good thing Crimson did was kill Chaz. The friendless horsefucker practically painted a target on Moxxie's back, but at least Crimson drew out his death slowly and horribly.
He was right to abuse his son like that, knowing that he became the bi Imp we all know him as, but he was in the wrong to abuse his wife.
Moxie's mom was his protector/ his rock and after his dad killed her, he had no one and had to find a way to survive on his own. Eventually, Mille became his rock/ protector and vise versa. ❤
I would like to see a flashback to the day they met, when they (moxxie and Millie) got married (even if we have a photo) and even when they got engaged..the episode just destroyed me.. poor moxxie.. but millie doesn't know that moxxie's mother was killed by her father since even moxxie doesn't know it..? ( I think..)
@@dasilvaolivia6559 some speculate that either mom was kidnapped or forced into marrying Crimson.
I also don't think Moxxie knows either...unless he didn't as a child but that he got suspicions as he grew older, but he feared his dad more because Crim already controlled him.
Protect Moxxie at all costs! He doesn't deserve that
Considering how Millie went apeshit at the wedding ceremony, its safe to say she got this covered.
Roger Roger
#SaveMoxxie ❤
This was by far the most darkest episode of Helluva Boss, felt so bad Moxxie's mom was killed off that way 😭
And the award for the worst dad and husband in Helluva Boss goes to Crimson
Stolas's father and Blitz's father are sitting at the award of worst father
@@Hi-gt9vithey’re saints compared to him
@@Hi-gt9vi Paimon isn't even that bad compared to Crimson and Buckso, sure he's a bit of a prick but he wasn't physically or mentally abusive.
@@FatherOFCrimzon Then he is sitting at neutral good and bad father
@@Hi-gt9vi that's fair
This is an emotionally aggressive scene 😭😢
Was he born in hell? Yes
is he a demon? Yes.
But he is also an angel compared to his past.
I thought that was his mom that his dad made him push into the water. No, the tail has different markings and the horns weren't right.
& the clothes... it's a random male imp! 😭
@@violetthebat8810 he wanted him to belive it was his mom and he did a damn good job at it.
I like to say when looking at these comments that Moxie didn’t kill his mom. The clothes are different and male, there was even a male grunt when he got push into the lake, the horns is a sign of a male, and the tail is different cause there are no dots like the mother. The shoe that float is his mother’s but a theory is that those in the bottom of the ocean shifted once a new body floated down so the mother’s corpse could have shifted and made her lose her shoe, making it float up.
I always thought it looks like the horn's got cut off.
I don't know why Millie and/or Moxxie didn't just kill him
They'll probably save Moxxie's dad for future episodes like striker
Still his dad, and killing hum would put them to his level
@@connorredshaw7994 Speaking of Striker, I'm still waiting for him to return
He's a head of the Mafia, all his employees/friends will avenge him so they must go low profiling.
I'm pretty sure if they killed him, other mob bosses would come after Moxxie and his friends.
One think disturbed me. In pilot Moxxie dreamed about that he killed his parents. I really was surprised that on the next episode Moxxie met his dad, because I though that he was so evil that he killed his parentsor they where so bad to him that he killed them. I know why he want to kill father in the dream, but mother? Did he deep in his heart felt that his mother "abandomed" him and he didn't do anything to safe Moxxie from him?
Well if you think about it. It was just a Pilot, they made few adjustments to the show which made more sense: they change voice actors/actress (Millie being a western and stoles sounding more royal and gay), Biltz supposed to have three sisters but turn the oldest as the mother, and now they change this. It’s understandable but I like how it turn out. Even though it was way twisted than the pilot
If you look at his expression right before he woke up and the way he phrases it in the pilot, I’m pretty sure he didn’t actually like that dream, he just preferred it to Blitz watching him sleep. Maybe his parents were originally meant to be good parents.
He said he dreamed that his parents were murdered, not that he killed them. Either way, it clearly wasn't a pleasant dream.
"Well I was dreaming my parents were being murdered... But now? I'd like to go back to that."
He clearly wasn't enjoying the dream, you can even see him uncomfortably tossing and turning as one does during a nightmare.
Dang, I never expected Richard could play such a threatening villain as Crimson. Of course he’s played villains before but I could never take them seriously.
(Moxxie wakes up and sees Blitz.)
Blitz: "whatcha dreamin' about?"
Moxxie: "well, I was dreaming about my parents being murdered. but now...I'd like to go back to that."
Retcon Joke aside, Moxxie clearly took after his mother and continues to be the best character of the show as he chose to break the cycle of violence that his dad tried to pass onto him by being a loving husband to Millie, and having a moral compass, despite being a professional assassin.
Seriously, the first episode of season one had him having a problem murdering an average family, arguing: "I can understand killing a shitty dad, or a Mob Family." (yeah, CLEARLY Moxxie was referring to his own dad there. neat foreshadowing.)
crimson's design is so good, i would simp for him if not for his personality💀
This scene made me cry tears bro my room was flooded
This is messed up when you realized moxxie may had help put his own mother body in the ocean
O_O
I don't think the demon they drowned was her because if you looked at the demon's tail and his mother's tails they look different cuz his mom didn't have the stripes on her's. His father likely have drowned her first beforehand when the heel popped out of the ocean (I did think it was his mom he drowned at first though 😭)
Was not expecting it to go this dark. But damn this made me feel things...
When I watched this episode and saw the person with their head covered the bag. I was really hoping that wasn’t his mom and then when the heel floated up I just teared up
it wasnt his mom. the tail is different. tho maybe he had to kill the mother before
@@marweha7002 yeah your probably right but seeing that heel float up did hurt..actually now that I think about it why does it suddenly float up now?
@@nerdycookiebunny856 movement of the water probably made it float up or it was probably stuck somewhere and when the body that was thrown in probably mad the shoe unstuck and float up
@@darknessthewolf2.039 maybe she’s alive maybe she’s dead but somewhere else who knows..
@@nerdycookiebunny856 it didn't really make it clear that she was dead, she could have ran away and lost her shoe in the process and he used that to maybe make it seem like she was dead
Crimson is literally at the same hate level as Stella or Valentino
Tbh I hate him more than Stella. Stella is pretty insufferable, but she's not forcing her kid to marry anyone, or taking her out on the lake to murder someone and telling her "that'll happen to you too if you anger me".
@@itsnotthatdeep6657 sometimes being ignored by your parents is better.
He does give Valentino vibes doesn't he? I imagine Valentino runs his business in a similar way
I really love crimson's design. Pure evil just like a true demon. Really love villains who is just evil.
Can't we all just sit down and appreciate how cute moxxie as a baby was
How could something so cute suffer from this 😭
No matter how many times I watch this,I never fail to not shed a tear.
It's refreshing to see that not all imps/denizens of Hell are evil/demented/you name it Demons who savor in tormenting others. That there are some good souls in hell who want to who want to make the lives of others better. Moxxies mother is/was a good soul who wanted Moxxie to live a happy life.
This episode was so good, and the backstory made me cry 😞 the part where his moms shoe floated on the water us what got me
Tbh I really love this episode this probably might be my favourites this scene made me so emotional I was going to cry moxxies mom is the greatest moms I ever seen in a adult cartoon.
It's a mirical that Moxxie turned out the way he did
At first it was funny bc it was like a taller moxie in the mafia but like 7 minutes in it gets deep
How did they make an imp more scary and intimidating then movie villains with army’s and world ending power
Because Crimson is way more grounded and realistic in terms of characterization. This is someone who you could genuinely live with in real life. With him you always know, whatever he does to you is personal
I’ve seen guys like Crim do the things he does in other shows, I just want y’all to know that if ever ran into him, I would do far, far worse
R/iamverybadass
Ouch, dude, watch out with the edge over here.
Crimson would shiver his timbers to a guy like you no doubt
Honestly, considering the shit that has happened. i’m kinda scared
@@voidyvoid11 U better be
The first time I watched, I was so afraid Moxxie was going to have to kill his mom in that boat scene.
The scariest thing about all of this is that people like Moxxie’s father actually exist in real life.
His mother was from the lights of heaven and Crimson was nothing but a devil worse than lucifer. At least, lucifer loves his daughter with all his hearts
😭 I'VE BEEN WAITING 2023 AND IT'S FINALLY HERE!!!😩👍
I think some ppl are a lil confused. The imp that Moxxie’s dad made him kill was just some random imp that ‘crossed’ his dad. Moxxie’s dad already killed Moxxie’s mom before that.
Moxxie’s mom’s tail has no patterns besides three white dots at the end of her tail, the random imp had a striped patterned tail. I’m guessing the imp landed on the shoe when he fell in the water, and that’s why Moxxie’s mom’s shoe floated back up at the end 👽🤙🏻
Sometimes, I really hate to see adorable kids crying. Because if some of them cried, it makes me also crying. (only sometimes)
Spoilers
Who else thinks that Crim forced Moxxie to throw his mother into the river?
It was proven that he went out to sea without Moxxie and threw her in, but then they went back out to steal some stuff from the water, revealing her shoe floating up.
I did at first but noticed the design was different.
Poor Moxxie, I have some daddy issues too buddy, your not alone.
I hope....you get a better life 😟😟
Bruh you people need to realise the reveal of his dead mom was the shoe not the guy he pushed into the lake. It was very clear
this is so amazing and such a twist i wish they didnt take 4 months to make a episode but its 100% worth it because how jaw-dropping they are (EDIT ive never gotten so many likes tysm)
Tbh I'm okay with the wait time because so far it has always been worth it. Great art, effects, story, etc.. Even their worst episode still isn't a bad episode, y'know?
Theyre making like 1-2 ep in one time so Its normal Ir took that much
Good lord...
Idk why Moxxie Is so cute when he was Little...
Crimson would be such a badass villain for this series
Moxxie did not deserve such a traumatic past :(
This part honesty almost made me cry, imagine people or children in real life going through this. Helluva boss and hazbin hotel show very real and powerful events, I feel so bad how this could relate to the real world. 😢
What I love about this scene is that it just shows how Moxxie's childhood was like, and not tell us the context of the flashback.
Okay I might be the only one who noticed this but like, the imp who crimson wanted Moxxie to shoot kinda looked like striker. Like how his eyes were in that swirly pattern, the horns on his back (striker doesn't have his on his back but on his tail), the hair, his actual horns, and this is a stretch but his teeth. I don't know, Helluva boss has always been about the small details, so maybe this is pointing to something.
Anyone notice that Crim hit Moxxie's face on the cinderblock?
I have a feeling maybe it wasn't an arrange marriage or anything like that like people theorize but I believe that Crimson was a regular IMP in Hell raising a family but since Imps are the lowest of the low he felt like becoming a mafia member was the best way to provide more efficient for the family and over time crimson father changed thanks too all the greed moxies mom noticed the change into someone she doesn't know anymore. And over time moxies mom began to loose love interest but stuck around for moxies sake.
Same. It seems likely, how else was Moxxie made? Definitely wasn't rape
At first, I thought Crimson was nothing more than some abusive mob boss father figure, someone I could give no shits about. But now that I've seen Moxxie's backstory, I feel really bad for Mox and scared of Crimson.
And, like the mob boss says... ( 1:18 )
Crimson reminds me a lot of Don Leno from Shark tale, where they both want their sons to do the same thing they do, but their sons both refuse to do that tradition
Imp tale, if you will
What I think was little Moxxie was checking out the cement block because it's his first drowning and he didn't know what it was for until he realized it.
Like,
"Why is Mr. Imp's tail wrapped tightly around it?
...wait"
He was checking why or if the tail was truly wrapped around...and tight.
As for mom. Nope, she most likely died days or weeks prior to that.
I take that lake as the regular dumping/drowning site of Greed citizens, not just Crim.
Notice how it doesn't have currents, therefor all those floating keepsakes have been stuck in the same for so long, that means they're placed right above the drowned person.
And the shoe came out far away from the boat (also last hint, the tip of the imp's tail doesn't have spots like Moxxie's mom does).
Lil moxxie is so adorable, i wanna protect him
Even in a show as violent as Helluva Boss, this scene which involves Moxxie's flashback is really dark. Jeepers, Moxxie definitely doesn't deserve this.😨😬
I cried with this scene, so truth about this world we lived in.....and something like this still exists. That show the dark side of society how he could do that to a child....his child Horrible!
the saddest part of it all is knowing that his father killed his mother without him even knowing it and unfortunately he couldn't do anything to help her.
I can't believe it.
Crimson killed Moxxie's mother.
I recognised those shoes.
Wow, this show is so good at taking a dark turn.
This scene in the episode nearly made me cry
Was crimson jealous of moxxie getting affection from his mum
Dang that's a pill hard to swallow, that's really said.🥺
Even though a villain is nice at first, you will then see there TRUE nature
Crimson is most definitely the most Darkest and most horrifying villians in all of Helluva Boss he is definitely as bad as it gets when it comes to being the worst Villains He should definitely be considered Hell’s Hell’s Satan after Witnessing everything he did to Moxxie in his childhood lord only knows how Stolas Grew up with Stella but that’s an episode for another day
OMG that was Moxxie's mother poor Moxxie 😢
Moxxie has daddy issues, Blitzø has daddy issues, Stolas has daddy issues, I have daddy issues!! Are there any other people with daddy issues I should know about!?!?
"Meow"
@@KazumaAsogiFan I’m outta here.
Poor Moxx, I knew he’d have to deal with some extra BS this episode
I'm pretty sure it's not Moxxie's mom being thrown in the water, you can see by the tail and the hands that are way too big to be hers (hers had three spots on the tail and the rest was red,she also had white gloves?or maybe not gloves but white hands) , horns were bigger and different too, sure it's completely fair to assume she was _also_ thrown like that but not by Moxxie.
or who knows, chances are she'll come back sometime somehow, you never know how karma comes back!
People think that crimson dround moxxies mother but that ain’t her who sunk down bc 1. The person who got the bag on there head got black&white horns so it’s a male 2. It sound like a male 3. Why would moxxies mother would dress up like that and 4. Idk why people listen to theory people
Vivziepop trying not to make every character have mommy/daddy issues challenge:
(Impossible)
This is the worse father ever! He actually worse then Buckzo and piamon!
I feel so bad for moxxie he doesn’t deserve this
I think she slapped Crimson. The reaction, from him, and how she left the room.
Prob
1:18 "Let this be a lesson Moxxie, this is what happens when you cross me".
If i was her sister i would still help him
It's funny how later in this scene, Crimson threatens to hurt Millie only to see moment later, Millie crashes the wedding like a total badass to get Moxxie back. Crimson thinking he can over power Millie is just funny to me.
He got his mothers freckles 😔😭
Crim is dark…. New favourite Imp.
Why do i relate to this so much
i dont know why, but the muffled sobbing sound effect made me legitimately nauseous. kudos to the VA for that
So far he’s the worst dad. Don’t know how they’ll make a worse dad?
If that's what they did to start off Moxxie's backstory, i can't fucking WAIT to see how they show Alastor's with HIS mom! That's what I'm looking forward to the most in Hazbin.
Tail designs are not the same, I think it was his mother but still
His*
It's all about the design. It is not by chance that we were shown the lower part of the face of that demon. She had three freckles on her cheeks just like Moxie. And the tails are similar, they're just different colors. The color, fur and horns came from his father.
@Poofie ! I really did that kind of mistake.....
@@speechredking2921 But his mother's tail has 3 dots while the tail in the final scene has stripes
1:08
"Moxie, you have nothing to do with this- I love you, I love you."
or
"Moxie, you don't have to this- I love you, I love you."
Moxxie*
(Not tryin to be rude)
1:05 am I the only one hearing "no no no" on loop,
This is sad 😔
Admit it: We all cried when we saw the drowning scene
Cash was using his family for money. Paimon doesn't know how to be a dad. Joe is actually a good dad.
Crimson is simply a monster.
If you noticed the person Moxxie "Killed" as a child wasn't his mother he pushed off the boat that was another person.
Crimson been killed moxxies mother on the boat before he brought Moxxie along to kill something.
Am I the only one who thinks that Crimson is a more realistic portrayal of an abuser than Stella? At first he seems nice and polite to Blitz, Moxxie and Millie before slowly revealing his true self and literally behind the closed doors we really see how abusive he is. His son is afraid of him, he ruled his family with an iron fist and his wife was also afraid of him. We don't know much about the afterlife but abusers like Crimson are too real.
For anyone who dosent know not hate ❤ the imp wasn't moxxies mother! Movies mother had left the shoes were simply him leaving her wardrobe in the lake you can check with the tail and horns
Crimson: “Don’t cross me.”
[Gasps] yo poor Moxxie ----> 0:38
0:29 Moxxie was going to shoot the guy
😨: Oh my gosh... what you did to Moxxie's mother.......was horrible. YOUR HORRIBLE CRIMSON!!!!! YOUR AN IRREDEEMABLE MONSTER!!!!!!!
Puss in boots reference?
@@wooshydog yes
Crimson is the WORST DAD i can possibly imagine