@@Diegesis Any theories on why naked old ladies are frequently in horror movies? (And it's not just old women either) But no one wants to think about that ever happening to them. We are fine with it in the abstract but when we are confronted with our skin sagging, our bones showing through past our flesh--things we used to be able to do so easily that we can't do anymore. It's a reality we all have to face, but Christ who wants to really face that? You should check out the movie X. Brilliant, Brilliant horror movie. They made two others, Maxine and Pearl--those were okay--but the first--X was so fresh and the script was so smart, tight and the cast was perfect. It's a deeply disturbing look at our horror of aging. To your larger point about the movie--I love the book and I saw what they were trying to do. The adults have a much smaller part to play in the novel. Yes, they do have amnesia and yes they go around recovering critical memories, but what happened to them as kids was always the foundation and informed the action. Its always been tough to capture Stephen King in movies--so much of what happens in a King novel is internal--it's so tough to get at that in a movie. Reading the book, or listening to It on audible (On your way to and from work) is the best way to experience this story.
They haven't really figured out how to film IT yet. The book switches between the adults and the kids the whole way through. With these movies, they made the first movie about the kids but then brought the kids back in the second one because they were popular even though they didn't have anything left to do. Same with the 90s mini-series, which was also basically two movies. A TV show might work better, it would allow them to switch between the two periods like the book does without running out of stuff to say.
The mini series suffered from this as well. But that’s the point…the fear between a child and an adult is largely different. As adults, or fear is rooted within self and trauma…and all of the Losers were faced with this. It wasn’t the monster of the their dreams…but the monster of their everyday lives
I love the casting for the adult Losers Club so much. Especially Jessica Chastain as Bev and Bill Hader as Richie. And Isaiah Mustafa, (the Old Spice guy) as Mike Hanlon. lol One of the creepiest parts in Chapter II is when the Losers Club is at the Chinese restaurant and they start getting tormented by Pennywise. Side note: The fact that one of Pennywise's eyes is wonky isn't a special effect, Bill Skarsgård can actually do that with his eyes....same with the creepy smile.
"I guess the blood in the water probably wakes up It." Not exactly. Pennywise himself, his very presence having recently woken up is what's causing the hate crimes and the violence. Shitty people become genuine monsters because of his Lovecraftian influence.
I don’t mind when reactors don’t like the movie. But dang when they continuously mention how much they don’t like it? It’s like okay we get it…why not just finish the movie and try giving it a full shot BEFORE forming an opinion at the end? Even if you hated it… at that point you at least tried. Instead it’s like they decided they don’t like it half way through and just proceeded to cross their arms and be negative the rest of the time. Obviously there is more to the story that you can only get from the books. Not the best movie but definitely not the best reaction. P.s. I mean these reactors were even negative in scenes that were not even horror. Like the kiss between Bev and Ben. Like…. Arms crossed eye rolls. They just hated it and never gave it a shot.
I disagree. I'd rather watch people react to films authentically. If you want them to react a certain way, it just ends up being a reality show and loses all its worth imo. Also it definitely is a terrible film, especially compared to the first one: The horror is mostly just things made as gross as possible, the characters have no depth and are just mirrors of themselves as children, the backstory kills all the ambiguity and the end fight is just action and not scary at all. I felt the same way as the girls when watching it in the cinema, grossed out by the "horror", disconnected from the story and characters and the ending was just a bit ridiculous and I could't take it seriously.
the second one is definelty not as good as the first one but I think you're missing the theme of this movie. they act the way the do because they haven't really grown up from there past trauma. Bill rushed to fight pennywise on his own because he literally saw a kid about the age of his brother get killed right in front of him, the hopless feeling that he felt as a kid is still there as an adult. i agree that a lot of it felt like retracing things we already knew, and sure like anything else in this world it could've been done better, but the idea still stands that these "adults" are still kids inside. Thats the whole point of the amnesia, they didn't work their problems out they just moved on and forgot.
Always love when people react from their own perspective, not trying to understand why someone would react the way they do. I call that lack of empathy.
The problem is that even if they are still stuck in their childlike trauma, the tone of the movie is not at all like the first. So, it doesn't fit when you're stuck in the "old ways", but nothing about the narrative has any synergy with the "old story".
yeah.. the problem is the book actually starts with the same spot as movie 2.. and all of movie 1 is just flashbacks.. making movie 1 just the flashbacks made for a great "nostalgia/horror".. but then the leftovers dont make a story by itself :( not without repeating way too much The whole amnesia thing worked in the book as we were introduced to the characters as adults and the meet up and start reliving the childhood summer... But just the adult bits by themselves are.. lacking
This is a pretty concise theory as to why them using all the kids stuff in part one was them using the "good stuff" and this stretching that I hadn't thought about but you're very correct
The main problem is that it's based on the novel and films aren't novels. In the novel, King jumps back and forth between the kids and the adults. The first movie is just the kids and how they deal with IT. The novel parallels how they deal with IT as kids and adults up to the end. This film has to introduce them as adults, explain that when they leave Derry, they lose their memories and make them separate to try to remember, then introduce the ritual (that they also did as kids in the book). What it doesn't explain is that IT isn't an alien. It's a cosmic being/horror. Think Cthulhu. There's just way too much.
From the comments alone I don't think I can watch it - just because my love of the book . Even though this movie wasn't perfect if I really hated it like half way through as a reaction channel I would have stopped filming and just said 'we decided not to post the reaction as we weren't enjoying it' but each to their own I guess.
Pennywise is actually an interdimesional shape-shifting alien from a different universe where he once a fear eating creature called a Glamour but turned into a form of a three orbs of magic called the Deadlights from a dark sorcerer named the Crimson King. The crimson king sent Pennywise to a different universe to give him more fear or power so he could destroy his own universe. Although Pennywise needed a host because he is just three orbs so he possessed a circus employee named Robert Bob Gray to eat fear from vulnerable humans who are actually children. More fear or power he eats, the crimson king gets more powerful he gets.
Idk im a pretty big fan of this channel but this reaction was just... i dont need you to like everything you watch, but something felt very off. Long periods of just staring and then feeding off eachother not enjoying the movie to the point where the comments you were making just didnt make sense. Im not even a big It fan, but there were incredible moments in this movie that just fell flat in your reaction. Its all cool though, you are allowed to have off days and thats what this felt to me.
Agreed. Though I'm a big "It" fan, they just didn't get what the movie was doing with the back and forth of the characters. "It" was to much for them so they blamed "it" on the writing. Like "it" went right over their heads. So much so I had to stop watching them as they became annoying. When they didn't show Henry's whole background part including in the hospital I knew "it" wasn't going to be good...
this is not the first time some of the reactions they say anything and the rest is silence and when the episode/movie they watched they just say random things or i dont know what to say i dont have words or something others but they are not the only reactors that does this sometimes
if they thought the movie made them uncomfortable.. they should never read the books... also the complaint about how long the movie was.. the book itself is over 1000 pages.. the movie would've been much longer if it included most of the details.. also part 1 is actually part 2 where the book started with them as adults (part 1 actually being included as part of the flashbacks).. so if you think part 1 is better, that is probably why, it wasn't set up as a flashback
I don't throw around the phrase "character assassination" often, but what they did to Mike Hanlon in this film (and to an extent the 1st) is criminal. No knock against the actor-he did his job well enough.
Yes, thank you! Mike's characterisation was so bastardised in this. Say what you will about the original 1990 mini series, but they at least respected the character in that one.
The problem is that they gave Mikes entire "thing" in the book to Ben in the movie. If Mike isnt the one that sepnds all of his time in the library (because he literally cant go outside without risk of being assaulted because this is the 1950´s , then he doesnt learn about the history of Derry. If he doesnt learn about the history of Derry then it doesnt make much sense that he´s the one staying behind. He loses his purpouse ass a characer in both movies and becomes a nothing-character.
17:11 The emotional manipulation in this scene might be the scariest part of the whole movie on reflection, because that $h!t is VERY real and they did a great job with it. Using a child's compassion and loneliness and lessons about friendliness, anti-bullying, and giving the unknown a chance against them to manipulate them is so screwed up.
I actually like this movie, they did their best with what they got it's pretty obviously they tried hard to put page to screen but it's kind of hard with Stephen King's writing because it's kind of all over place, but it is still good.
I think they are just too old. I grew up as a kid watching the old IT movies and it scared me for life. Then when the new ones come out I still love it. I can't wait for the new one. They just have poor attention spans.😂 They should have just watched it and then at the end said "I didn't like it as much" but when they was trashing it from the middle to the end it felt pointless watching it. In my opinion
I actually thought part 2 was good but it’s been something that’s really hard to execute, it was also the same way in the original 1990 2 part show. I always felt IT would be best served as an 8 episode mini series with 4 episodes for the kids and 4 episodes for the adults without it being rushed or dragging
The book is a fascinating mess. It jumps back and forth between time frames (like The Haunting of Hill House minus the elegant transitions). When the first movie came out, I thought it was genius to adapt only the childhood portion of the book. And I think “Chapter One” works well as a standalone. I enjoy “Chapter Two” more than both of you did, but every criticism you leveled against the movie was accurate. The second movie is even more unwieldy than the novel.
Was just coming to say this. Once Arianna said she "wasn't invested" and they both just started complaining about how long it was, I turned it off. If you're not invested, I have no interest in seeing your reaction because it will either be flat or not genuine.
@cavaughngrace1488 except they kept complaining over and over while watching. It gave the impression they didn't want to be watching it and thus I wasn't interested in their reaction anymore. I watch these reactions to feel like I'm watching movies I like with a friend. If I Was doing that IRL and my friend was constantly complaining about the movie, I'd be annoyed. For a reaction channel, you suck it up, give it a go, and give your critiques at the end if you want people to stick around and give you views. Doing nothing but trashing the material (unless it's obvious it's a hate watch and the critique is at least funny) just turns people off. For a funny hate watch, check out Badd Medicine watching the Twilight films. Those were obviously not their usual jam (and they're not amazing movies anyway), but they at least were funny about it.
The second one isn’t as good, but good enough. I am happy with this 2-part adaptation. The adult actors were perfect cast and Richie aka Bill Hader suprised me with how good he was.
Please ignore all the comments saying it's a terrible reaction. I, and many others here, watch your reactions because it's like showing a film to a friend and you reacting authentically is the most important thing. If you'd react a certain way because you want to pander to a certain audience it would just be like a reality TV show. Just be yourselves, hate the film if you feel like it, ridicule it if that's your honest reaction. To me this being authentic and honest is more important than you faking to enjoy and respect every trash piece of media you react to. And let's be real, this film doesn't achieve anything it tries to convey, it's just not good in any way.
Big unfortunate when a reaction devolves into just repeating the same complaint over and over and over again. Don't know how much enjoyment there can reasonably be on the viewer's end if all the 'react' moments seem like different ways of saying "I'm not enjoying this" or "I dont' want to keep watching this"
51:38 that would work. The whole point is that they all HAD to go back. If even one of them chose not to, they’d all die. The fact that Stan is now dead meant he no longer counts.
As a fan of the novel, the mini series and IT Chapter 1 and 2 both have their pros and cons. I definitely think Chapter 1 was better than Chapter 2. Chapter 2 was okay though. Not terrible but not amazing, just okay. Also the reason the movie starts off with a hate crime is because in the book it takes place between the late 1950’s and and mid 80’s, in the 1980’s the AIDS epidemic happened and being gay while seen as less extreme then previous decades, still had a stigma connected to it, especially because of the AIDS epidemic. This hate crime is actually based on a real incident and it also is what awakens IT 27 years later.
1st film...a fun fact, the reason pennywise drools so much is cus the fake teeth make the actor Bill, drooled uncontrolably, but when the director saw it he loved it and wanted it left in the first movie 2nd film was amazing casting, they looked just like em, even Ben if u look at there eyes
I saw this in the theater and I was incredulous when I realized they'd be seeking and trying to kill Pennywise for a WHOLE HOUR. At least we get Bill Hader.
In the book the two timelines are told simultaneously. I Think that's why telling it chronologically made it feel tedious. Also there are a lot of things that would happen in like a spiritual realm, that i guess it's difficult to translate into a movie, so they change a lot of things to make it more cinematic. Like the ritual of Chud. In the book it is a sort of spiritual battle, there are no pshysical elements in it, like the native american thingy and the tokens. That change was so dumb, as many others in the second film. Anyway, i do recommend to read the book. Specially the ending was so beautiful, made cry, honestly. The end of the book really hits the nail about how the people you survive trauma with in your childhood end up fading away. Kind of like the end of The Body, also fron Stephen King, which ended up as the movie Stand By Me.
Take a good solid few months to read the original (if you wish), which is over 1,000 pages in length. That length alone to me suggests it would be better served as a mini series, to help give each of the Losers’ storylines the respect they deserve. IT is heavy on the themes of childhood trauma, dealing with loss, and connection with others to face off fears. There’s also a strong condemnation of people who allow apathy to set in as they grow into adulthood, how they neglect their own emotional health and therefore others, especially children. Fear and monstrous acts can and do flourish in communities where apathy and neglect of each other also flourish. Looking out for each other, especially the weak or different, in the face of fear, brings strength and life - a huge theme in pretty much all Stephen King’s stories. Thank you for sharing your reactions, love your work!
@Kadarello true, there are like 2 parts that are just completely not needed. Still I've honestly never read a book that has creeped me out in quite the same way. Incredible read imo
I do agree with the criticism of this movie. They basically relived the entire first movie as a plot for the second and then added a boss fight at the end.
The book is so much better than the movies. There's still a ton of stuff the movies could never capture. If you like Stephen King, I recommend doing Dreamcatcher. That's a good one too.
Honestly, this movie confused the shit out of me. Like all those flashbacks to childhood, along with additional scary visions. When did they happen? Before or after they defeated Pennywise? Why is it that in the first one Ben is obsessed with the history of the town and the curse, but then in the second one Mike has taken over that role? And why all the memory stuff? What's that about? Plenty of good stuff to like. Pennywise is still great. The simple horror stuff is still great. The casting of the older versions of the characters is incredible. But overall it still just felt very sloppy compared to the first.
The answer to why Mike is the historian in this movie is because he is the only one that stayed in Derry and in a library to boot. He has studied the history and kept in touch with his memories. The rest of the losers have forgotten. It is actually a very clear point in the book. Derry is cursed and when the kids left and became adults they forgot most of it. Derry is cursed by more than just Pennywise as well. Many King books center around Derry.
The childhood memories took place during the time they had fallen out and were not speaking to each other. The clubhouse scenes took place after the rock fight and before they first went into the house on Neibolt street.
@@kennethbartlett4302 ”The reason why it happened is because it happened.” It’s called consistency. We see Ben reading about the history of Derry as a child. We never see Mike doing it. What would be his motivation to stay? He’s only ever suffered racial abuse and violence in Derry. But I guess it just happened because it happened.
They definitely should have made the artifact hunt a ten minute montage or space out some of it. It was 100% most of an hour of walking around in solo scenes which just waters the whole movie down. I have to throw out there Richie have feelings for Eddie was done pretty quietly and subtly and that Bill Haders sobbing at the end crushes me a little bit
Yeah this movie was an hour and a half too long and just did too much. The first was OK, this has some moments (the Kersh grandma) but in general it was just bad in every way.
I sort of thought the consensus was that Chapter Two wasn't very good. I definitely felt uninspired after I left the theater in 2019. Despite some strong actors, the characters never felt as three-dimensional as the kids in Chapter One. The plot as laid out just was brutally uninteresting. I agree with what Maple and Arianna said. Also I really wanted an insane design for Pennywise at the end and it didn't really deliver.
I totally get not liking every movie you see but this was painful & annoying. This movie definitely could’ve used some editing, sure, but Jesus you guys sure made it a miserable watch. Maybe take a nap & eat a snickers before your next reaction. Get your blood sugar up or something.
There’s a hundred other channels that watched the movie and here you are complaining that somebody didn’t like the movie and expressed their own opinions.
This movie is an interesting case of trying to tackle a problem without addressing the actual core issue and instead making it even worse in the attempt. The original made for TV adaptation, while a cult classic, still had the same issue of "the first half with the kids is better, the second half with the adults is not as good". In that adaptation part of the issue was the adult cast just didn't quite meet the mark, which is not a problem here since most of these actors are quite good; the other part was just a lack of time building on their adult selves, which is what they SHOULD have spent their time addressing on this version of the movie, but instead they decided to shoehorn the kids back into the movie in this weird attempt to leverage the fact everyone already liked those characters, which ultimately doesn't help at all and ends up inflating the runtime with additional, unnecessary, predictable scares that just end up tiring the audience before we reach the actual climax of the movie. Also not a fan of how schlocky the entire final confrontation feels with the half-spider, half-clown design rather than just letting him turn into the straight up spider monstrosity he truly is. I understand it's kind of a hard part to adapt but despite the confusing and low budget approach of the TV movie I still found it more effective than what they went with here. Sorry yall hand to go through that disappointment!
@@mast3rNate The movie is a sequence of one terrible "crime" after another, so "hate crime" is not very descriptive. Someone already clarified what was meant.
To be fair, I think Chapter Two was dependent on how the 1st one did and so it was always going to be geared more for the book fans. The 1st one was the scary movie for the masses, the 2nd one was for the King nerds wanting more of the book. Cause to REALLY do the book justice it should be a longer mini-series format. 5-6 hours just ISN'T enough for this story. Where the book succeeds but these movies come up just short is the book is always flashing from kids to adults almost seamlessly and that way the story is always entertaining. Where the adult portion of the story may be dragging with the lore of "IT" and the "Ritual of Chud" stuff, that's when we're getting all the juicy flashback stuff as kids, and when the kid parts of the story start dragging with the part of the Summer they spent alone, that's when some shit's going on with the adults. It's all very well balanced in the book. The ending is still shit. So I do love that they threw that into the movie. Most of King's endings are garbage but it's also due to the problem that the beginning, middle & most of the end of his works are SPECTACULAR!!! Like legit, one of the most amazing writers in the history of literature....if only he could stick the landings on his books. There are some that he does. Carrie, Cujo, Salem's Lot are some that I remember being very solid endings for the story he was telling. But then there's IT, The Stand, Christine, etc etc that make you wonder "was it too much or not enough cocaine when he got to this part". There's also a really good reason why they do have Bill flying off the handle. And it is kinda embarrassing that in 3 hours they couldn't have done this. But Bill's actress wife goes to Derry, because the film has completely shut down without him there, and is taken by Pennywise. Anyway, I dunno why they didn't just do that instead of the sushi kid BS. I guess the studio figured since Georgie was like the secret star of the 1st one, they better cast a Georgie2.0 for Bill to freak out about.
Terrible reaction yes its longer then it should have and the story is not as good as the first one because of it being difficult to adapt into live action like the 1990 miniseries. However the way you react as if its a bad movie makes you look so whiny as well as lacking common sense just enjoy the movie I mean there are good parts that you two ignored. Keeping on repeating the same complaints is annoying behaving like you lost 3 hrs of your life. Grow up
There's no way you can possibly feel contented in telling people to grow up after filling your britches past the belt in the comment section over a negative reaction video to It Part 2 of all movies.
Your frustration of the goofy plot and length is so funny, the first one had me scared of pennywise but this one really made him laughable coz if I see him I'll just be like "stop you ugly, b***h" 😭😂
The fact that y’all have no attention span and spend the whole movie complaining is pretty annoying not going to lie. It’s a movie based on a book. The original movie was 4 hours too. Even so, this is a movie. Released a year later in theaters. You can’t just sit down in a movie that’s instantly at the conclusion. The build up scenes are there for good reason.
This is what happens when reactors do horror due to fan demand but actually hate horror. You’re never going to get a fun, positive viewing from them in this genre.
@ it was definitely in the second movie I remember watching it. Maybe this is a cut version? I specifically remember in the movie the older version of him in the asylum seeing a balloon and completely reeking havoc
Just watched Sleepless In Seattle for the first time in my thirty-three years of life and I genuinely enjoyed it. It’d be interesting to see both of your reactions to it if you haven’t already seen it.
This has been the consistent problem with the book, miniseries and this two part movies; the adult section aren’t as strong as the story when they were kids. This didn’t need to be 3 hours long. It needed another draft to make it tighter and more focused. Sometimes you have to omit things from the book that doesn’t work onscreen
I pretty much fully agree with this reaction. There's a lot of good in Chapter 2: I think the adult actors do a great job, there's great characterization, and some pretty creepy moments. But there are also major flaws. There's no tension in the scenes where the adults are retrieving the artifacts because the movie quickly falls into a pattern of jump scares where you know no one is going to actually die, and that sequence takes far too long to play out. There are also issues with tone: I don't know whose idea it was to play Angel Of The Morning while Eddie has vomit spewed on his face, but that is something you see in a comedy, not a horror movie. It's a shame because Chapter 1 was so effective and there are good elements here, but the final product just didn't work for me.
Ben and Bev having their first kiss under dirty water sums up this movie perfectly. The filmmakers were going for romance, but it comes off as silly and weird.
Nah… it definitely could have been shorter. The 90s miniseries had the fact that the network(for studio reasons outline by executives) needed to spread it across more than one night, but this film definitely could have improved on that, with better a run time.
i have been saying he sounds like winnie the pooh for YEARS and no one ever agreed with me. pennywise would 100% say "oh bother". i was 16 when the first one came out and i used to walk around the house going "hiya georgie doyouwantyourboatback" in the jim cummings winnie the pooh voice to terrify my older brother lmao. also i'm a horror person (not in a gross weird way, in an "i like stories that are allegories for trauma" way) and i hated this movie. it sucks ass and the shit cgi that should have been practical effects was so distracting. also idc if the intro happened in the book. being a kid who was closeted at home and bullied at school, sitting in a theatre full of townies, and watching 20-odd minutes of a violent hate crime that contributed nothing to the plot was hell. stephen king needs to be in prison for some of the shit he writes. and keep that dude away from children.
I love the story too much. Any version just because of that. I read the book in 6th or 7th grade. The idea of phobias and childhood fears and how they become manifest and whether we confront and overcome can dictate the quality of our lives is just a timeless concept and I am glad King decided to fully explore it. And I like my horror with a victorious protagonist too. I think it allows it to have a point. In this one and it's previous chapter the highlight is of course the cast and their performances.
I think the problem with the part 2 movies of IT is that when its kids vs It its more suspenseful and scary because its children. Grown adults i dont feel bad for
Stumbled across this as it went live and I need to thank you two for jumping on the grenade and justifying & reinforcing the fact that I never wanted to see this thing----and I'm doubling down on that. Maple was making some comment regarding things going sideways in the writing process---do y'all write?
Yeah, I think they wasted a ton of time with all the flashbacks and "side-quests" because they wanted to bring all the kid actors back for this movie, even though there's literally nothing significant left for the kid-versions of these characters to do. The only side-quest that actually was worthwhile was Beverly's with Mrs. Kersh. All the others just padded out the runtime.
Nah, the book isn't scary because books inherently aren't scary. You control the pace, and your imagination. Movies are a ride, you're forced to watch what happens.
@Karvan420 Still, it almost became the first book I threw into a wall when Ben encountered Pennywise. I'm not that kind of gal to skip paragraphs, but I'm that kind of gal to close my eyes or turn off sound when I watch a film. I cannot turn off my imagination as I process words from a page.
Dude, I agree this movie had some flaws and Chapter 1 was better but the negativity throughout the ENTIRE video was really bumming me out more than the actual movie... I understand it’s not for everybody and you’re entitled to your opinion/reaction but it was the constant feeding on each other negativity that made me not want to finish the video. Like this could come off as sorta insulting to the fans (within your audience) of this movie/story, calling it “stupid” or “lazy” was a little harsh. Again, you can, of course, not like a movie but just be more careful with your words next time.
fr i really relate to the absolute LETHARGY displayed in this reaction. I remember seeing the first movie when it came out and being very delightfully surprised and then being excited for this one (esp because of bill hader) and going and seeing it in theatres with friends and midway through all of us were like "oh no, is this bad, is this a bad movie?" which was then solidified when we all broke out in laughter upon seeing ben and beverly on the boat with a dog at the end. they so couldn't figure out the tone of the second one and looking back no wonder bill hader was so done on the whole press tour for the movie.
The whole chanting at IT by “name calling” it wasn’t explained well, so I agree about Part 2 not being fleshed out very much. The chanting was essentially the Loser’s Club recognizing that IT can’t attack or entrance anyone who isn’t afraid of IT. By anthroprobmorphasizing IT by its forms; ie clown, mimic, disembodied voice, etc allowed the members to use logic and frustration and pain to mask their fear and misery therefore nullifying IT’s powers. The biggest note missed from the book to movie is the literal love bond amongst the group (including physical love) which connected them and gave them an anchor to rely on in order to fight IT. But yeah, that could have been explained better with the writing
5:26 "He married exactly his mother"
Yes, Eddie's wife and his mother are played by the same actress.
Oh shit really? I didn't catch that
haha didint notice that myself
~Chad
@@Diegesis Any theories on why naked old ladies are frequently in horror movies? (And it's not just old women either)
But no one wants to think about that ever happening to them. We are fine with it in the abstract but when we are confronted with our skin sagging, our bones showing through past our flesh--things we used to be able to do so easily that we can't do anymore. It's a reality we all have to face, but Christ who wants to really face that?
You should check out the movie X. Brilliant, Brilliant horror movie. They made two others, Maxine and Pearl--those were okay--but the first--X was so fresh and the script was so smart, tight and the cast was perfect. It's a deeply disturbing look at our horror of aging.
To your larger point about the movie--I love the book and I saw what they were trying to do. The adults have a much smaller part to play in the novel. Yes, they do have amnesia and yes they go around recovering critical memories, but what happened to them as kids was always the foundation and informed the action.
Its always been tough to capture Stephen King in movies--so much of what happens in a King novel is internal--it's so tough to get at that in a movie. Reading the book, or listening to It on audible (On your way to and from work) is the best way to experience this story.
well, you learn something new every day!
Props to the editor for catching the exact moment this movie violently ripped Arianna's suspension of disbelief from her body.
@JDMC13 For the ending fight? Yeah that was pretty much my reaction as well when I first saw this.
They haven't really figured out how to film IT yet. The book switches between the adults and the kids the whole way through. With these movies, they made the first movie about the kids but then brought the kids back in the second one because they were popular even though they didn't have anything left to do. Same with the 90s mini-series, which was also basically two movies. A TV show might work better, it would allow them to switch between the two periods like the book does without running out of stuff to say.
They should have done a single season series. One that actually cares about the story and characters.
@@terrycullen3302Theres literally a IT tv show releasing next year lol
@@juubicortex8178 it won't be good. They'll try and make it 5 seasons long instead of just telling a good story.
They need to do a series. Same with 11/22/63, and have them cross over.
Hahaha you need a hobby
Not Maple with the wife beater roast "How is she not asleep? He can't punch very hard." OMG LOL!
Laughed out loud
The mini series suffered from this as well. But that’s the point…the fear between a child and an adult is largely different. As adults, or fear is rooted within self and trauma…and all of the Losers were faced with this. It wasn’t the monster of the their dreams…but the monster of their everyday lives
I love the casting for the adult Losers Club so much. Especially Jessica Chastain as Bev and Bill Hader as Richie. And Isaiah Mustafa, (the Old Spice guy) as Mike Hanlon. lol
One of the creepiest parts in Chapter II is when the Losers Club is at the Chinese restaurant and they start getting tormented by Pennywise.
Side note: The fact that one of Pennywise's eyes is wonky isn't a special effect, Bill Skarsgård can actually do that with his eyes....same with the creepy smile.
Thought Jessica Chastain as Bev was weird. Should’ve been Amy Adams.
@@MisterS1r007 I can't picture Amy Adams saying "Fuck you" to anybody.
"I guess the blood in the water probably wakes up It." Not exactly. Pennywise himself, his very presence having recently woken up is what's causing the hate crimes and the violence. Shitty people become genuine monsters because of his Lovecraftian influence.
I don’t mind when reactors don’t like the movie. But dang when they continuously mention how much they don’t like it? It’s like okay we get it…why not just finish the movie and try giving it a full shot BEFORE forming an opinion at the end? Even if you hated it… at that point you at least tried.
Instead it’s like they decided they don’t like it half way through and just proceeded to cross their arms and be negative the rest of the time.
Obviously there is more to the story that you can only get from the books. Not the best movie but definitely not the best reaction.
P.s. I mean these reactors were even negative in scenes that were not even horror. Like the kiss between Bev and Ben. Like…. Arms crossed eye rolls. They just hated it and never gave it a shot.
I disagree. I'd rather watch people react to films authentically. If you want them to react a certain way, it just ends up being a reality show and loses all its worth imo.
Also it definitely is a terrible film, especially compared to the first one: The horror is mostly just things made as gross as possible, the characters have no depth and are just mirrors of themselves as children, the backstory kills all the ambiguity and the end fight is just action and not scary at all.
I felt the same way as the girls when watching it in the cinema, grossed out by the "horror", disconnected from the story and characters and the ending was just a bit ridiculous and I could't take it seriously.
These two are insufferable on many levels
@Poggle_der_Geringere hahah, you should watch an actual terrible film...
the second one is definelty not as good as the first one but I think you're missing the theme of this movie. they act the way the do because they haven't really grown up from there past trauma. Bill rushed to fight pennywise on his own because he literally saw a kid about the age of his brother get killed right in front of him, the hopless feeling that he felt as a kid is still there as an adult. i agree that a lot of it felt like retracing things we already knew, and sure like anything else in this world it could've been done better, but the idea still stands that these "adults" are still kids inside. Thats the whole point of the amnesia, they didn't work their problems out they just moved on and forgot.
Always love when people react from their own perspective, not trying to understand why someone would react the way they do. I call that lack of empathy.
The problem is that even if they are still stuck in their childlike trauma, the tone of the movie is not at all like the first. So, it doesn't fit when you're stuck in the "old ways", but nothing about the narrative has any synergy with the "old story".
It's better, paced much more like the book and the Pennywise scenes (save for the ending) are excellent
yeah.. the problem is the book actually starts with the same spot as movie 2.. and all of movie 1 is just flashbacks.. making movie 1 just the flashbacks made for a great "nostalgia/horror".. but then the leftovers dont make a story by itself :( not without repeating way too much
The whole amnesia thing worked in the book as we were introduced to the characters as adults and the meet up and start reliving the childhood summer... But just the adult bits by themselves are.. lacking
This is a pretty concise theory as to why them using all the kids stuff in part one was them using the "good stuff" and this stretching that I hadn't thought about but you're very correct
Pennywise is a shapeshifting demon. An ancient demon older than time. It came here from another dimension
The main problem is that it's based on the novel and films aren't novels. In the novel, King jumps back and forth between the kids and the adults. The first movie is just the kids and how they deal with IT. The novel parallels how they deal with IT as kids and adults up to the end. This film has to introduce them as adults, explain that when they leave Derry, they lose their memories and make them separate to try to remember, then introduce the ritual (that they also did as kids in the book). What it doesn't explain is that IT isn't an alien. It's a cosmic being/horror. Think Cthulhu. There's just way too much.
I love this channel, but this was the first video i couldn't finish based on the reaction. I dont get all the hate.
@@davidmink6686 same
From the comments alone I don't think I can watch it - just because my love of the book . Even though this movie wasn't perfect if I really hated it like half way through as a reaction channel I would have stopped filming and just said 'we decided not to post the reaction as we weren't enjoying it' but each to their own I guess.
The movie isnt very good. Not as a movie nor an adaptiation of the book
because the movie is bad. period.
Pennywise is actually an interdimesional shape-shifting alien from a different universe where he once a fear eating creature called a Glamour but turned into a form of a three orbs of magic called the Deadlights from a dark sorcerer named the Crimson King. The crimson king sent Pennywise to a different universe to give him more fear or power so he could destroy his own universe. Although Pennywise needed a host because he is just three orbs so he possessed a circus employee named Robert Bob Gray to eat fear from vulnerable humans who are actually children. More fear or power he eats, the crimson king gets more powerful he gets.
It's waffle tho
Stephen King tried and failed to connect a lot of his works.
dont forget the turtle :D
All things serve the beam.
00:50 if that grosses you out, then you probably shouldn't read the book to see what they did to seal the pact
lol that shit was wild
Yeah I always said that thank God in this movie that's the only thing they swapped 😬
Stephen King after all is one of _God's Chosen™_ people.
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@@AyAy008 he wrote some weird shit but every religion has diddled their way thru history, especially the christian ones lol
Idk im a pretty big fan of this channel but this reaction was just... i dont need you to like everything you watch, but something felt very off. Long periods of just staring and then feeding off eachother not enjoying the movie to the point where the comments you were making just didnt make sense. Im not even a big It fan, but there were incredible moments in this movie that just fell flat in your reaction. Its all cool though, you are allowed to have off days and thats what this felt to me.
Agreed.
Though I'm a big "It" fan, they just didn't get what the movie was doing with the back and forth of the characters.
"It" was to much for them so they blamed "it" on the writing.
Like "it" went right over their heads.
So much so I had to stop watching them as they became annoying.
When they didn't show Henry's whole background part including in the hospital I knew "it" wasn't going to be good...
this is not the first time some of the reactions they say anything and the rest is silence and when the episode/movie they watched they just say random things or i dont know what to say i dont have words or something others but they are not the only reactors that does this sometimes
Agreed...story is too much for some people. IT is what IT is 🎈 Pun intended
The writing is pretty bad though I can see why they didn’t enjoy pt 2
Agreed
if they thought the movie made them uncomfortable.. they should never read the books... also the complaint about how long the movie was.. the book itself is over 1000 pages.. the movie would've been much longer if it included most of the details.. also part 1 is actually part 2 where the book started with them as adults (part 1 actually being included as part of the flashbacks).. so if you think part 1 is better, that is probably why, it wasn't set up as a flashback
Hey girls, I recommend you watch "The Invisible Man" it's a good and underrated movie
I don't throw around the phrase "character assassination" often, but what they did to Mike Hanlon in this film (and to an extent the 1st) is criminal. No knock against the actor-he did his job well enough.
So true. He is an absolute unit in the books and is basically the Samwise Gamgee of the whole thing
Yes, thank you! Mike's characterisation was so bastardised in this. Say what you will about the original 1990 mini series, but they at least respected the character in that one.
The problem is that they gave Mikes entire "thing" in the book to Ben in the movie. If Mike isnt the one that sepnds all of his time in the library (because he literally cant go outside without risk of being assaulted because this is the 1950´s , then he doesnt learn about the history of Derry. If he doesnt learn about the history of Derry then it doesnt make much sense that he´s the one staying behind. He loses his purpouse ass a characer in both movies and becomes a nothing-character.
Say what you will about the movie, it's got problems but the casting was perfect. here.
17:11 The emotional manipulation in this scene might be the scariest part of the whole movie on reflection, because that $h!t is VERY real and they did a great job with it. Using a child's compassion and loneliness and lessons about friendliness, anti-bullying, and giving the unknown a chance against them to manipulate them is so screwed up.
I actually like this movie, they did their best with what they got it's pretty obviously they tried hard to put page to screen but it's kind of hard with Stephen King's writing because it's kind of all over place, but it is still good.
I think they are just too old. I grew up as a kid watching the old IT movies and it scared me for life. Then when the new ones come out I still love it. I can't wait for the new one. They just have poor attention spans.😂 They should have just watched it and then at the end said "I didn't like it as much" but when they was trashing it from the middle to the end it felt pointless watching it. In my opinion
I actually thought part 2 was good but it’s been something that’s really hard to execute, it was also the same way in the original 1990 2 part show. I always felt IT would be best served as an 8 episode mini series with 4 episodes for the kids and 4 episodes for the adults without it being rushed or dragging
The book is a fascinating mess. It jumps back and forth between time frames (like The Haunting of Hill House minus the elegant transitions). When the first movie came out, I thought it was genius to adapt only the childhood portion of the book. And I think “Chapter One” works well as a standalone. I enjoy “Chapter Two” more than both of you did, but every criticism you leveled against the movie was accurate. The second movie is even more unwieldy than the novel.
36:38 no offense, but if you "dont care and are not invested", well then neither am I in watching your reaction. Its that simple.
Was just coming to say this. Once Arianna said she "wasn't invested" and they both just started complaining about how long it was, I turned it off. If you're not invested, I have no interest in seeing your reaction because it will either be flat or not genuine.
@@ribbitgrlWould you rather they lie and say that they liked it? At least they're giving an honest opinion on it
@cavaughngrace1488 except they kept complaining over and over while watching. It gave the impression they didn't want to be watching it and thus I wasn't interested in their reaction anymore. I watch these reactions to feel like I'm watching movies I like with a friend. If I Was doing that IRL and my friend was constantly complaining about the movie, I'd be annoyed.
For a reaction channel, you suck it up, give it a go, and give your critiques at the end if you want people to stick around and give you views. Doing nothing but trashing the material (unless it's obvious it's a hate watch and the critique is at least funny) just turns people off. For a funny hate watch, check out Badd Medicine watching the Twilight films. Those were obviously not their usual jam (and they're not amazing movies anyway), but they at least were funny about it.
@@ribbitgrl Well, I guess you have a point there. 🤷
it’s this terrible movies problem AND your problem, NOT theirs.
People lashing out at the reaction for "being bad" when their reactions to the clunky book to movie adaption is completely justifiable.
To be honest I thought they did really well with the source material, in the book the kid part was the best also.
The second one isn’t as good, but good enough. I am happy with this 2-part adaptation. The adult actors were perfect cast and Richie aka Bill Hader suprised me with how good he was.
Please ignore all the comments saying it's a terrible reaction. I, and many others here, watch your reactions because it's like showing a film to a friend and you reacting authentically is the most important thing. If you'd react a certain way because you want to pander to a certain audience it would just be like a reality TV show. Just be yourselves, hate the film if you feel like it, ridicule it if that's your honest reaction.
To me this being authentic and honest is more important than you faking to enjoy and respect every trash piece of media you react to. And let's be real, this film doesn't achieve anything it tries to convey, it's just not good in any way.
Well you two seem absolutely bent on hating this movie and being miserable…not really fun to watch. Shame. 🤷🏼♂️
At least I feel like maple is trying to take it with a grain. But this was kinda insufferable
Big unfortunate when a reaction devolves into just repeating the same complaint over and over and over again. Don't know how much enjoyment there can reasonably be on the viewer's end if all the 'react' moments seem like different ways of saying "I'm not enjoying this" or "I dont' want to keep watching this"
51:38 that would work. The whole point is that they all HAD to go back. If even one of them chose not to, they’d all die. The fact that Stan is now dead meant he no longer counts.
As a fan of the novel, the mini series and IT Chapter 1 and 2 both have their pros and cons. I definitely think Chapter 1 was better than Chapter 2. Chapter 2 was okay though. Not terrible but not amazing, just okay. Also the reason the movie starts off with a hate crime is because in the book it takes place between the late 1950’s and and mid 80’s, in the 1980’s the AIDS epidemic happened and being gay while seen as less extreme then previous decades, still had a stigma connected to it, especially because of the AIDS epidemic. This hate crime is actually based on a real incident and it also is what awakens IT 27 years later.
1st film...a fun fact, the reason pennywise drools so much is cus the fake teeth make the actor Bill, drooled uncontrolably, but when the director saw it he loved it and wanted it left in the first movie
2nd film was amazing casting, they looked just like em, even Ben if u look at there eyes
I saw this in the theater and I was incredulous when I realized they'd be seeking and trying to kill Pennywise for a WHOLE HOUR. At least we get Bill Hader.
In the book the two timelines are told simultaneously. I Think that's why telling it chronologically made it feel tedious. Also there are a lot of things that would happen in like a spiritual realm, that i guess it's difficult to translate into a movie, so they change a lot of things to make it more cinematic. Like the ritual of Chud. In the book it is a sort of spiritual battle, there are no pshysical elements in it, like the native american thingy and the tokens. That change was so dumb, as many others in the second film. Anyway, i do recommend to read the book. Specially the ending was so beautiful, made cry, honestly. The end of the book really hits the nail about how the people you survive trauma with in your childhood end up fading away. Kind of like the end of The Body, also fron Stephen King, which ended up as the movie Stand By Me.
Take a good solid few months to read the original (if you wish), which is over 1,000 pages in length. That length alone to me suggests it would be better served as a mini series, to help give each of the Losers’ storylines the respect they deserve.
IT is heavy on the themes of childhood trauma, dealing with loss, and connection with others to face off fears. There’s also a strong condemnation of people who allow apathy to set in as they grow into adulthood, how they neglect their own emotional health and therefore others, especially children. Fear and monstrous acts can and do flourish in communities where apathy and neglect of each other also flourish. Looking out for each other, especially the weak or different, in the face of fear, brings strength and life - a huge theme in pretty much all Stephen King’s stories. Thank you for sharing your reactions, love your work!
Ben didn't lose weight, he gained height.
I really dug part 2 🤷🏼♂️
It's probably the best book I've ever read. Nearly impossible to put to screen.
and nowadays it is a bit morally unacceptable and disgusting
@Kadarello true, there are like 2 parts that are just completely not needed. Still I've honestly never read a book that has creeped me out in quite the same way. Incredible read imo
I do agree with the criticism of this movie. They basically relived the entire first movie as a plot for the second and then added a boss fight at the end.
The book is so much better than the movies. There's still a ton of stuff the movies could never capture. If you like Stephen King, I recommend doing Dreamcatcher. That's a good one too.
Honestly, this movie confused the shit out of me. Like all those flashbacks to childhood, along with additional scary visions. When did they happen? Before or after they defeated Pennywise? Why is it that in the first one Ben is obsessed with the history of the town and the curse, but then in the second one Mike has taken over that role? And why all the memory stuff? What's that about?
Plenty of good stuff to like. Pennywise is still great. The simple horror stuff is still great. The casting of the older versions of the characters is incredible. But overall it still just felt very sloppy compared to the first.
The answer to why Mike is the historian in this movie is because he is the only one that stayed in Derry and in a library to boot. He has studied the history and kept in touch with his memories. The rest of the losers have forgotten. It is actually a very clear point in the book. Derry is cursed and when the kids left and became adults they forgot most of it. Derry is cursed by more than just Pennywise as well. Many King books center around Derry.
The childhood memories took place during the time they had fallen out and were not speaking to each other. The clubhouse scenes took place after the rock fight and before they first went into the house on Neibolt street.
Mike was the group's historian in the book, they changed it Ben for some reason in the movie.
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”The reason why it happened is because it happened.” It’s called consistency. We see Ben reading about the history of Derry as a child. We never see Mike doing it. What would be his motivation to stay? He’s only ever suffered racial abuse and violence in Derry. But I guess it just happened because it happened.
the they hated the ending part was probably a jab from stephen king who notoriously hates endings.
They definitely should have made the artifact hunt a ten minute montage or space out some of it. It was 100% most of an hour of walking around in solo scenes which just waters the whole movie down. I have to throw out there Richie have feelings for Eddie was done pretty quietly and subtly and that Bill Haders sobbing at the end crushes me a little bit
The general consensus is that part 2 was way longer than it needed to be and had some moments that were just too goofy.
Party of the problem is that you are watching part 1 and 2 so close together.
Yeah this movie was an hour and a half too long and just did too much. The first was OK, this has some moments (the Kersh grandma) but in general it was just bad in every way.
I sort of thought the consensus was that Chapter Two wasn't very good. I definitely felt uninspired after I left the theater in 2019. Despite some strong actors, the characters never felt as three-dimensional as the kids in Chapter One. The plot as laid out just was brutally uninteresting. I agree with what Maple and Arianna said. Also I really wanted an insane design for Pennywise at the end and it didn't really deliver.
I totally get not liking every movie you see but this was painful & annoying. This movie definitely could’ve used some editing, sure, but Jesus you guys sure made it a miserable watch. Maybe take a nap & eat a snickers before your next reaction. Get your blood sugar up or something.
Exactly! They hated it and were almost angry they had to watch it.
There’s a hundred other channels that watched the movie and here you are complaining that somebody didn’t like the movie and expressed their own opinions.
This movie is an interesting case of trying to tackle a problem without addressing the actual core issue and instead making it even worse in the attempt.
The original made for TV adaptation, while a cult classic, still had the same issue of "the first half with the kids is better, the second half with the adults is not as good". In that adaptation part of the issue was the adult cast just didn't quite meet the mark, which is not a problem here since most of these actors are quite good; the other part was just a lack of time building on their adult selves, which is what they SHOULD have spent their time addressing on this version of the movie, but instead they decided to shoehorn the kids back into the movie in this weird attempt to leverage the fact everyone already liked those characters, which ultimately doesn't help at all and ends up inflating the runtime with additional, unnecessary, predictable scares that just end up tiring the audience before we reach the actual climax of the movie.
Also not a fan of how schlocky the entire final confrontation feels with the half-spider, half-clown design rather than just letting him turn into the straight up spider monstrosity he truly is. I understand it's kind of a hard part to adapt but despite the confusing and low budget approach of the TV movie I still found it more effective than what they went with here.
Sorry yall hand to go through that disappointment!
My biggest problem with this movie is when Ben said he lost a little weight, I'd beg to differ that he weighs more now as an adult. Just saying.
The hate crime is a true story from Bangor, Maine, where King lives.
the what?
The murder of Charlie Howard happened while King was writing It
Came here to say this. He was so intensely bothered by the event that he had to process it by writing about it.
@@benguensche is “hate crime” not an accurate phrase? or? what are you questioning?
@@mast3rNate The movie is a sequence of one terrible "crime" after another, so "hate crime" is not very descriptive. Someone already clarified what was meant.
To be fair, I think Chapter Two was dependent on how the 1st one did and so it was always going to be geared more for the book fans. The 1st one was the scary movie for the masses, the 2nd one was for the King nerds wanting more of the book. Cause to REALLY do the book justice it should be a longer mini-series format. 5-6 hours just ISN'T enough for this story.
Where the book succeeds but these movies come up just short is the book is always flashing from kids to adults almost seamlessly and that way the story is always entertaining. Where the adult portion of the story may be dragging with the lore of "IT" and the "Ritual of Chud" stuff, that's when we're getting all the juicy flashback stuff as kids, and when the kid parts of the story start dragging with the part of the Summer they spent alone, that's when some shit's going on with the adults. It's all very well balanced in the book.
The ending is still shit. So I do love that they threw that into the movie. Most of King's endings are garbage but it's also due to the problem that the beginning, middle & most of the end of his works are SPECTACULAR!!! Like legit, one of the most amazing writers in the history of literature....if only he could stick the landings on his books. There are some that he does. Carrie, Cujo, Salem's Lot are some that I remember being very solid endings for the story he was telling. But then there's IT, The Stand, Christine, etc etc that make you wonder "was it too much or not enough cocaine when he got to this part".
There's also a really good reason why they do have Bill flying off the handle. And it is kinda embarrassing that in 3 hours they couldn't have done this. But Bill's actress wife goes to Derry, because the film has completely shut down without him there, and is taken by Pennywise. Anyway, I dunno why they didn't just do that instead of the sushi kid BS. I guess the studio figured since Georgie was like the secret star of the 1st one, they better cast a Georgie2.0 for Bill to freak out about.
Terrible reaction yes its longer then it should have and the story is not as good as the first one because of it being difficult to adapt into live action like the 1990 miniseries. However the way you react as if its a bad movie makes you look so whiny as well as lacking common sense just enjoy the movie I mean there are good parts that you two ignored. Keeping on repeating the same complaints is annoying behaving like you lost 3 hrs of your life. Grow up
There's no way you can possibly feel contented in telling people to grow up after filling your britches past the belt in the comment section over a negative reaction video to It Part 2 of all movies.
@@Denizen-Unknown 😂😂
At least they didn't adapt everything from the book this would've been like 6 hours just for the half that they're adults
I kinda felt the same way watching this movie the first time. Like the kids made the first one worth it. This one I kinda just didn’t care lol
43:15 “it was the 1800’s! it was a time of science!” - Dennis Reynolds (The Gang Gets Trapped)
in the book.... well..... if you know..... you wish you dont.....
Your frustration of the goofy plot and length is so funny, the first one had me scared of pennywise but this one really made him laughable coz if I see him I'll just be like "stop you ugly, b***h" 😭😂
It's always sad that Eddie died but it's als sad that he died the same place as pennywise so his soul will stay there with pennywise
This was based off of the book from Steven King. It, was a huge book
Yeah, the first movie is solid but ultimately I prefer the Mini-Series from 1990 directed by Tommy Lee Wallace.
I actually didn’t know that was Tommy Lee Wallace. I have been in a Halloween rabbit hole. How cool !
@@TheAbominableDrFaustus Yes, he doesn’t get enough credit as a director.
The fact that y’all have no attention span and spend the whole movie complaining is pretty annoying not going to lie. It’s a movie based on a book. The original movie was 4 hours too. Even so, this is a movie. Released a year later in theaters. You can’t just sit down in a movie that’s instantly at the conclusion. The build up scenes are there for good reason.
It’s a pretty bad adaptation to be fair.
Movie is clearly worse than the first.
This is what happens when reactors do horror due to fan demand but actually hate horror. You’re never going to get a fun, positive viewing from them in this genre.
@@maxducoudray how do they Hate horror when they said they liked the first one?
MUST LIKE ALL MOVIES NO MATTER WHAT
I just want to know why we LGBTQ got to check-out in every single horror movie.
Maple sounds like she actually been knocked out by an abusive guy..
Your guys reaction was my reaction in the theater, felt so frickin long
Its just crime, assault is assault murder is murder people just look for an excuse.
Wait why didn't it show the bully older when he as in the insane asylum? Did i miss something?
I guess they didn’t include that in the second movie. Sucks because that was a pretty intriguing plot point.
@ it was definitely in the second movie I remember watching it. Maybe this is a cut version? I specifically remember in the movie the older version of him in the asylum seeing a balloon and completely reeking havoc
Dammit, now I want some Chinese food.
Just watched Sleepless In Seattle for the first time in my thirty-three years of life and I genuinely enjoyed it. It’d be interesting to see both of your reactions to it if you haven’t already seen it.
This has been the consistent problem with the book, miniseries and this two part movies; the adult section aren’t as strong as the story when they were kids. This didn’t need to be 3 hours long. It needed another draft to make it tighter and more focused. Sometimes you have to omit things from the book that doesn’t work onscreen
I pretty much fully agree with this reaction. There's a lot of good in Chapter 2: I think the adult actors do a great job, there's great characterization, and some pretty creepy moments. But there are also major flaws. There's no tension in the scenes where the adults are retrieving the artifacts because the movie quickly falls into a pattern of jump scares where you know no one is going to actually die, and that sequence takes far too long to play out. There are also issues with tone: I don't know whose idea it was to play Angel Of The Morning while Eddie has vomit spewed on his face, but that is something you see in a comedy, not a horror movie. It's a shame because Chapter 1 was so effective and there are good elements here, but the final product just didn't work for me.
Ben and Bev having their first kiss under dirty water sums up this movie perfectly. The filmmakers were going for romance, but it comes off as silly and weird.
Nah… it definitely could have been shorter. The 90s miniseries had the fact that the network(for studio reasons outline by executives) needed to spread it across more than one night, but this film definitely could have improved on that, with better a run time.
44:04 the clown is so valid for pointing this out to the group lol id be pissed too
Part II was fine, i just have a preference for part I
i have been saying he sounds like winnie the pooh for YEARS and no one ever agreed with me. pennywise would 100% say "oh bother". i was 16 when the first one came out and i used to walk around the house going "hiya georgie doyouwantyourboatback" in the jim cummings winnie the pooh voice to terrify my older brother lmao. also i'm a horror person (not in a gross weird way, in an "i like stories that are allegories for trauma" way) and i hated this movie. it sucks ass and the shit cgi that should have been practical effects was so distracting. also idc if the intro happened in the book. being a kid who was closeted at home and bullied at school, sitting in a theatre full of townies, and watching 20-odd minutes of a violent hate crime that contributed nothing to the plot was hell. stephen king needs to be in prison for some of the shit he writes. and keep that dude away from children.
The opeining is probably the best scene in the movie, so brutal
Agreed, toughest part of the movie. The rest is meh
I love the story too much. Any version just because of that. I read the book in 6th or 7th grade. The idea of phobias and childhood fears and how they become manifest and whether we confront and overcome can dictate the quality of our lives is just a timeless concept and I am glad King decided to fully explore it. And I like my horror with a victorious protagonist too. I think it allows it to have a point. In this one and it's previous chapter the highlight is of course the cast and their performances.
Ill save everyone an hours worth of time. Dont bother watching this because all you will hear is them bitching nonstop about things not making sense.
48:30 is exactly how i felt about this movie
I really like the second one but i get your points...i wonder if a cut of the film but cut like the mini series with going back and forth would work.
They basically took all the good parts and put them in 1. Then 2 had all the leftovers haha.
I think the problem with the part 2 movies of IT is that when its kids vs It its more suspenseful and scary because its children. Grown adults i dont feel bad for
is it just me or are these two just getting more irrationally emotional with each react video? lol!
Chapter 2 was good
Stumbled across this as it went live and I need to thank you two for jumping on the grenade and justifying & reinforcing the fact that I never wanted to see this thing----and I'm doubling down on that. Maple was making some comment regarding things going sideways in the writing process---do y'all write?
Whoo-ee, you're gonna get crucified for those perfectly valid opinions.
I'm not a horror movie person, so I just watched this for Bill Hader anyway and he was great lol.
Yeah, I think they wasted a ton of time with all the flashbacks and "side-quests" because they wanted to bring all the kid actors back for this movie, even though there's literally nothing significant left for the kid-versions of these characters to do. The only side-quest that actually was worthwhile was Beverly's with Mrs. Kersh. All the others just padded out the runtime.
I recommend reading the book, it's much better and scarier. The first film was such a fixation for me in 2017, but then 2019 came...
Nah, the book isn't scary because books inherently aren't scary. You control the pace, and your imagination. Movies are a ride, you're forced to watch what happens.
@Karvan420 Still, it almost became the first book I threw into a wall when Ben encountered Pennywise. I'm not that kind of gal to skip paragraphs, but I'm that kind of gal to close my eyes or turn off sound when I watch a film. I cannot turn off my imagination as I process words from a page.
@@Karvan420 today's dumb comment goes to.
One of my favorite King books
@@Karvan420 you never read the book.
Dude, I agree this movie had some flaws and Chapter 1 was better but the negativity throughout the ENTIRE video was really bumming me out more than the actual movie... I understand it’s not for everybody and you’re entitled to your opinion/reaction but it was the constant feeding on each other negativity that made me not want to finish the video. Like this could come off as sorta insulting to the fans (within your audience) of this movie/story, calling it “stupid” or “lazy” was a little harsh. Again, you can, of course, not like a movie but just be more careful with your words next time.
Arianna's facial expressions at 18:05....😂
Imagine if they just read the book...
fr i really relate to the absolute LETHARGY displayed in this reaction. I remember seeing the first movie when it came out and being very delightfully surprised and then being excited for this one (esp because of bill hader) and going and seeing it in theatres with friends and midway through all of us were like "oh no, is this bad, is this a bad movie?" which was then solidified when we all broke out in laughter upon seeing ben and beverly on the boat with a dog at the end. they so couldn't figure out the tone of the second one and looking back no wonder bill hader was so done on the whole press tour for the movie.
I felt the same in theaters. I was relieved in a way when it finally ended because I wanted to go home and take a nap.
I think their memories came back because they were back in Derry
The whole chanting at IT by “name calling” it wasn’t explained well, so I agree about Part 2 not being fleshed out very much. The chanting was essentially the Loser’s Club recognizing that IT can’t attack or entrance anyone who isn’t afraid of IT. By anthroprobmorphasizing IT by its forms; ie clown, mimic, disembodied voice, etc allowed the members to use logic and frustration and pain to mask their fear and misery therefore nullifying IT’s powers. The biggest note missed from the book to movie is the literal love bond amongst the group (including physical love) which connected them and gave them an anchor to rely on in order to fight IT. But yeah, that could have been explained better with the writing
I loved the first one... I felt exactly the same as you guys when I watched part two.. Very underwhelming 🎈
Seems like u guys just hate fun lol