Surprise, it's not a Lawbringer video. I didn't do it intentionally, I just thought it would be fun to make a short video about the new Wulin hero. Lawbringer Analysis will be out next, hopefully. Timestamps: 1:29 - Stances and footwork 3:52 - Forward Dash Light 7:28 - Reveal Trailer/ "Sun Da's Journey" Routine
Oh definitely, but insanity doesn't tend to pan out well for people who go up against opponents who practice a martial art and meticulously use specific stances for practical reasons. INB4 someone decides to tell me, yes I know, it's a video game. I just find it funny that out of the entire roster, she is probably the most unrealistic yet one of the most viable gameplay wise compared to the rest of the roster.
It doesn't look that comfortabele either, it looks like she thinks she is a bobcat, but one just about smart enough to use weapons. And what ever she smoked, snorted, inhaled or ate were can I get it?
It's super hard for me to say this after your disclaimer, but Zanhus foot work is more representative of martial arts than sword play. Alot of his stances are from a martial art called Taekwondo. His top guard is actually a stance called tiger stance which distributes all the weight on the back leg, it's mainly used for snapping kicks with the front leg and defense, alot of the wulin heros use stances from various martial arts, no shade though I really enjoy your videos
@@ohgodwhy3246 It's always welcome to see a perspective from outside of my own. Like I say, I can only show what I know from my knowledge of weapon based combat. So I always welcome sharing information from a different set of knowledge base that I don't have.
Pretty much everything you said is right, however I just don’t understand why ubisoft would give a swordsman like zhanhu taekwondo like stances when taekwondo is basically all kicks (even though its called the way of the foot and fist yadda yadda).. this really doesnt have to do too much with you but im just questioning their stance choice, such as tiger stance for top guard and deep front stances for his side guards.. its not like they give a mobility advantage and zhanhu doesnt use any aspect of taekwondo except for the stances Edit: Also, since mobility isnt too much of a priority with the stances, i wonder why they would give him something like a tiger guard instead of a more balanced back stance
@@ohgodwhy3246 The Zhanhu stances are more classical wushu stances just with a two handed sword or Miao Dao, the fighting style is like a cross between staff and sword almost(and I suppose his side stance would make more sense with a spear). And the style of kung fu the Zhanhu uses is Pi Gua quan.
Does zhanhu have his guardbreak and bash make use of his stance and he actually does some martial art move or is ubisoft just dumb thinking that any stance works with a sword?
Dude the amount of work put into this video is insane and it’s actually a great well edited video coming from an extremely small UA-cam channel I’m definitely subbing keep up the great work brother
Thank you, I really appreciate that when you like something you go on to praise it instead of just espousing the negative without giving the positive any attention which I often see others do.
The only other channels I've seen do anything similar to this are Skallagrim and Metatron. An incredibly interesting idea for a channel, and an enjoying one too. Keep it up
The motion capture of Zhanhu is actually made by a Chinese-local fencing group's help. Some of their members are doing HEMA as well, and some of them are practicing Chinese swordsmanship and maybe some other cultures. The funny fact is that in order to make the difference between Katana or maybe Nodachi, Ubisoft changed the historical weapon "Miaodao"（苗刀）into the “Changdao”. There is no scientific name of weapon called Changdao in Chinese because the word "Chang" means Long, it's an adjective word. So yes, there is no long saber with a straight blade in Chinese history, as far as I knew at least. But the funny thing is, Miaodao was created in Ming Dynasty, so does Zhanhu's background. At that period of time, China was having a war with Japan, so according to the Katana/Nodachi they seized from the battlefield, ancient Chinese general improved the Nodachi into the Miaodao, so yes technically Miaodao does related with Nodachi a lot. But from the design perspect, Ubisoft had to let players see the differences.
@@kurodo9926 It's okay, but I didn't expect any reply though lol. Yes, the Zhanmadao（斩马刀）is a thing. But I personally don't believe this is a real-exist practical weapon. According to the descriptions of Zhanmadao from the ancient Chinese war book, there are multiple possible weapons. Yet people never really discovered any historical Zhanmadao from relic at all. Also, some descriptions of Zhanmadao, such as its weight is definitely hyperbole, it is no way a human being can use. After all, the name "Zhanmadao" shows up in many ancient books from dynasties, some of them are centuries apart, and there is no discovered Zhanmadao from the relic, so I don't think it is a real weapon. But the Miaodao or Changdao is something that can be found in the relic and almost the same with what the Ming dynasty's book recorded. I have to declare that I am not a scholar or professional guy, just normal people who studied martial arts and interested in swords, so I probably will make mistakes or what am I saying isn't totally correct XD. Anyway thanks for paying attention lol.
The snap is how you trust with a jian but with 2 hands. And the top stands is called short fighting stands. It's a stance you retract in to protect yourself and because most of your weight is on the back leg you can launche kicks very easy from that postion. Or in sunda's case step in to do a attack. The side stances are the bow stance and reversed bow stance but he is not really flexiable enough to do them right. Bassicly same idee will help you step in for a sideways attack. Sow from a asian masrhelarts prespectif it's logical. Not trying to kritiek you if you don't really know you won't understand why but sunda does things pretty much right. One thing I'm not trained with this weapon sow I don't know how to use it, but as far as i can tell the did a kind of good job like with most of the chinees charakters.
Awesome video as usual! Two-handed greatswords like that are the one case where spinny techniques can be justified. I practice the Iberian montante and the historical treatises have lots of spins and turns because it's designed to be used for crowd control and area denial, so many techniques are designed for opponents on multiple sides of you.
(not the meme) I am indeed a kung fu practitioner and man... I gotta say you have a really nice eagle eye and went perfectly through all the main characteristics oh those stances. Eventhough they used those stances in the game as statics stances (or ready stances), both the bow stance (the one he is sideways to the opponent) and the false/cat stance (the one his feet are way too close) are stances used while attacking, defending, evading, etc. So they are not meant to be used as ready stances, hence why each one has really strong and weak points (eg. false/cat stance, in that case, is probably meant to be an evading move from a leg aimed attack, so he pulled it out at the same time he stays ready to counter attack (just like the ox stance as you said :). I'm quite impressed by your really nice analysis, well done!
Cool video. Even though I know nothing about the game, I still very much enjoyed watching. What sword I'd that? Closest I can think of I the Dragon King Miao dao.,
It's the Miao Dao from Sword Buyers Guide for $200. They don't explicitly say it, but I am fairly certain it's made by Ryuijin who make a lot of the Katanas on SBG. I'll have a review out for it at some point, but the short version of it is that it's worth the money. Just make sure if you cut water targets, to immediately clean the blade. No joke, I had minor rust spot come up within 20 minutes of droplets sitting stagnate on the blade, maybe even less than 20 minutes. My only real complaint with the sword.
@@erichusayn Yeah, I mean when you look at it up close it really does look like a long katana blade, but that's not bad considering that what you kinda want in a two-handed saber-like blade. They even went as far as to keep the katana like bo-hi. It has a good feeling to it though, so in the end it doesn't really matter anyways.
If weight is equal on both feet, then in order to move you have to take the weight off a foot before you move it, an extra step in the process. So in Chinese martial arts they avoid 'doubleweighting'. The weight is almost always over %70 on one leg or the other except in motion. Cool video!
Zhanhu‘s actual name is 斩虎 means cut tiger in half（the power to beat a tiger）.The translation in the video means 战虎. The chinese heroes in the game except Nuxia，are using nick names，not their real names，for example Tiandi means sky and ground and JiangJun means general.ShaoLin is a style of martial art.Not his name
Just noticed a thing, the top guard footwork is compareable to the (I don't even know if that's the real word for it) cat stance, it is used in karate (Yes I practice that so I know at least slightly what I am saying). In this stance the weight is almost completely on the leg further away of the enemy. Just wanted to mention it, altho I don't think there is a connection between kempo karate and a chinese sword art. Hope it was at least a little informative.
So id like to put my own thoughts in. Having done martial arts for a long time i can say the devs had no idea of realism in the stances although hes stands in a long bow stance thats isnt Necessary for his side guards. In his top guard he stands in a cat stance which is ment for small movements back and forth not long hops and skips like he does. For his side guards all he has to do is move his blade to that side and it would have worked or stand in a more comfortable arrow stance which is squared off but still guarded
Great video even though you don’t have very much experience in this field of weaponry I can tell that you only made points about things you’re confident about. I won’t pretend to be a master... cause I’m not. But I have done Shaolin Hand to hand fighting for a bit (and while I personally don’t have experience with this weapon) I noticed that in his top stance he is in what we call a “Cat stance”. As far as I know it’s mainly used for kicking but in that stance 100% of your weight is on your back leg and your front leg is just in front of you. It’s used for keeping Balance while kicking. That may explain why his feet were so close together. That said I wish he was a bit lower. My master would hit me with a stick if I looked like that ahaha
Fantastic video! I just got back into playing FH and as a result I've discovered your channel, I'd say that's a good result! Quick question: Isn't the Zhunhu's forward dash light attack basically just a snap cut? I haven't done very much longsword training sadly but I've studied it a bit and snap cuts are a pretty common and perfectly viable combat move as I understand it.
I practiced kempo karate and Taekwondo I think zanhu is very similar to Taekwondo because his moves are kind of based on his legs and his movements and the Taekwondo I practiced was based on your kicks and leg movements
Here before this blows up. The amount of work on this is insane and will def get the attention it deserves. Also, shaman does not stand, *she s t a b s* I'll see myself out
Hey mate, do you have an analysis on Tiandi or Shaolin? I'd like to hear and see what you think of them. And you're right that Zhanhu is more for show, but you have to admit...he flows like water, I think!
15:00 Wiki is not quite accurate. Actually,“Chang Dao” means “Long Knife” in Putonghua , no matter it is straight or curve blade. And “Zhi Dao” means “Straight Knife”, “Wan Dao” means “Curve Knife”
“Dao” in Putonghua means single blade short handle weapon, like katana, saber, machete, meal knife. “Jian” means double blade short handle weapon, like German Sword, Gladius. FYI
I like the video, but I can't help but say that you didn't properly imitate the zhanhu's stance on the thumbnail. Also, I know a lot of the movement in the trailer seems pointless. But it is what is called "formula" which is a demonstration of skill rather than a series of optimal battle moves. And yes, there are certain moves like "hitting the lantern" that look silly and unnecessary, but yo need to know that the formula is not designed to be used in a real fight most of the time. In other words, it is a serie of difficult movements that one makes to demonstrate mastery or in this case "excellence". Quoting zhanhu a bit. I really love your work, and yor dedication! Keep doing this kind of stuff. ❣
About the Shaman stance: she is an insane woman who was probably exiled, so she wasn’t going to have anyone to teach her fighting stances, let alone teaching her not to eat people
I took martial Arts I'm no master but I was taught to read your opponent what he's about to do and at same time make it hard for your opponent to read your body language dont know if that help any.
Wouldn’t it be much better to use a straight sword except one with the weight added to the end as most Chinese techniques need specific balancing of the sword?
I don’t do Chinese Martial Arts, but as someone who has done karate (Yes I know karate is different from a Chinese martial arts) for almost a decade, Zhanhu’s stances are kinda shit to be honest. I’m just going off what I’m knowing, but yeah, I can agree it’s easy to fall from a push in those stances, but the stances are not meant to be able to stay, but instead be quick and agile and counter-attack through dodging. Then again, I’m assuming these characters have been training for many years. After some time it would take more effort to make one lose their balance from a push or shove. (I have practiced keeping my balance in stances similar to these and after some time it’s not easy to make someone lose their balance). Although it looks like he has an imbalance in his stance, there is actually a balance of weight believe it or not. Overall, Zhanhu’s stances need work in regards to looks but assuming he’s trained for years he probably knows what he’s doing.
Nice video, but maybe you should ask some miaodao pros in china about some thing you say... Because wushu is very diffrent from European martial arts... （And wulin 武林 is means the world of chinese martial art, wushu 武术 is the way of chinese martial art）and in game zhanhu is using a tanghengdao 唐横刀
Shaman is meant to look like she hasn't been taught by people. Shes meant to look like an animal, wild, feral, and unpredictable. Of course she isnt going to stand normally in terms of a fighting stance, on top of that shes also supposedly meant for quick hit and run attacks, shes also low to the ground to maintain energy build up for her charging shoulder bashes or tackling. Again shes supposed to mimic animal behavior.
@@carna-9501 That would be out of my control, but the developers of this game decided shaman would be a good character to release during one of the worst toxic moments in for honor would be a good idea? Shaman is toxic inducing by design. Even if I was a mistake, shaman was intentionally created with toxicity in mind.
@@carna-9501 okay but that's kinda irrelevant to how developers designed a toxic character. Are you saying people should get help in how to defeat her? I agree, is she better than BP, I dont know about that.
Yeah, I've practiced with various Chang Dao, Sabers, Jian, and the like in TCMA. Chinese swordsmanship is very unique in its movements and application, but personal preference plays the huge part in how well you learn and how much you absorb when practicing Chinese swordsmanship. It is a lot more challenging than HEMA or Kendo or whatever. You have a different take on these stances and movements that I haven't seen before, and I can clearly see there's a lot you don't understand about this martial art, but you're pretty good. Just don't be ignorant to it. Look into it more. An interesting video 👍 (Edit) P.S. don't take this the wrong way
Obviously your understanding of ZhanHu's moves is wrong, you can refer to this video:ua-cam.com/video/jNxQ0XAVtEg/v-deo.html By the way, this is the Chinese Miao Dao, not the Japanese sword, the two are very different.
5:21 i think the dash attack is a bit too wasteful on movement and makes it worse by instead of just usn the strike when he jumps or hops, after hoppin he loses all the kinetic energy he could have used for it for the strike. like he jumps forward with the blade in front of him then he steps once more AND then does more wasted movement by bringing the darn blade down to his stomach after which he uses more power to actually use the poke. like holy shet he could have just used the hop for a faster and stronger attack, but no he needed to waste all that energy for 2 moves instead of 1 clean move. really annoys the shit out of me. like the hop is good, then he steps a second time and brings his hand down to move the darn sword upwards like a turd which is why he loses more energy instead of using gravity to his advantage, he goes against it. really such a shame 1 good movement then using 1 wasted movement really just a way to make it flashier. the way you swung it is a bit better but still just wastes energy imo. you dont take a second step but you still bring down the arm and then throw the sword in instead of hoppin onto the taget and hitting him with it from upwards with the help of gravity, a lot of wasted movement.
You're taking the foot stance too literally. Its looks like Ubisoft just took a transitional stance and used it as an actual stance to make zhanhu look unique. Also I would like to point out Kung Fu practitioner tend to really exaggerate these transitional stance to the point they end up losing their purpose and just becomes theatrical dance.
sbg-sword-store.sword-buyers-guide.com/product854.html I highly recommend it. Hopefully I can get around to making a dedicated review for it, but things have been kinda hectic lately.
The Question that I want to ask is this. Is this a martial artist with enough expertise and a soldier with combat experience? No is the awnser to both questions. Get me a soldier hired by a professional army who actually fights with a sword to survive and make due (nobody) - and Ill show you a man who can judge wether or not the for Honor moves are real in the cutscenes. To me this is the equivalent of a backyard shooter pretending to be a WS in the Army or a Marine with Combat Experience.
His foot work is shit. When going from a long sword stance from German height stance to a forwards stab, the forward stab is actually similar to the kendo forward back push forward stepping. When he forward dashes he still keeps that Wide A stance of the German style when he moves one foot forward which is so wrong.
Surprise, it's not a Lawbringer video. I didn't do it intentionally, I just thought it would be fun to make a short video about the new Wulin hero. Lawbringer Analysis will be out next, hopefully.
Timestamps:
1:29 - Stances and footwork
3:52 - Forward Dash Light
7:28 - Reveal Trailer/ "Sun Da's Journey" Routine
Da faq stance was that dude doing the legs are wrong everything thing is wrong
In my opinion shaman doesn’t stand “right” because she is completely insane and probably just fights however she feels is comfortable.
Oh definitely, but insanity doesn't tend to pan out well for people who go up against opponents who practice a martial art and meticulously use specific stances for practical reasons. INB4 someone decides to tell me, yes I know, it's a video game. I just find it funny that out of the entire roster, she is probably the most unrealistic yet one of the most viable gameplay wise compared to the rest of the roster.
@@GoGoDani shaman has the spirits on her side fuck martial arts
@@davidunderscore9916 "spirits"? What a weird way to spell *_bath salts_*
_SargentoCoelho _ “bath salts”? Interesting take on natural oils...
It doesn't look that comfortabele either, it looks like she thinks she is a bobcat, but one just about smart enough to use weapons. And what ever she smoked, snorted, inhaled or ate were can I get it?
I been mastering the wulin for 9 years and ur wrong lmao
_i was waiting for this comment and i'm glad the internet didn't disappoint me_
GoGoDani I honestly just feel special for getting the heart
I love you, Adam Rivera.
This comments string is the best! 😂😂
@@Wraith_of_Storm thread... Not string...
It's super hard for me to say this after your disclaimer, but Zanhus foot work is more representative of martial arts than sword play. Alot of his stances are from a martial art called Taekwondo. His top guard is actually a stance called tiger stance which distributes all the weight on the back leg, it's mainly used for snapping kicks with the front leg and defense, alot of the wulin heros use stances from various martial arts, no shade though I really enjoy your videos
I should have said used in, I'm not totally sure tiger stance is exclusive to Taekwondo
@@ohgodwhy3246 It's always welcome to see a perspective from outside of my own. Like I say, I can only show what I know from my knowledge of weapon based combat. So I always welcome sharing information from a different set of knowledge base that I don't have.
Pretty much everything you said is right, however I just don’t understand why ubisoft would give a swordsman like zhanhu taekwondo like stances when taekwondo is basically all kicks (even though its called the way of the foot and fist yadda yadda).. this really doesnt have to do too much with you but im just questioning their stance choice, such as tiger stance for top guard and deep front stances for his side guards.. its not like they give a mobility advantage and zhanhu doesnt use any aspect of taekwondo except for the stances
Edit: Also, since mobility isnt too much of a priority with the stances, i wonder why they would give him something like a tiger guard instead of a more balanced back stance
@@ohgodwhy3246 The Zhanhu stances are more classical wushu stances just with a two handed sword or Miao Dao, the fighting style is like a cross between staff and sword almost(and I suppose his side stance would make more sense with a spear). And the style of kung fu the Zhanhu uses is Pi Gua quan.
Does zhanhu have his guardbreak and bash make use of his stance and he actually does some martial art move or is ubisoft just dumb thinking that any stance works with a sword?
"Twirling his two-handed great sword in ONE hand, I knew I was done." Best. Line. Ever.
Dude the amount of work put into this video is insane and it’s actually a great well edited video coming from an extremely small UA-cam channel I’m definitely subbing keep up the great work brother
Next video: Performing Jormungandrs moves with a warhammer just like his
Jorgen out of stamina punishment would be... curious
YO, When I seen you doing his training irl, that fucking twirl slash gave me *chills*
Thank you, I really appreciate that when you like something you go on to praise it instead of just espousing the negative without giving the positive any attention which I often see others do.
I've been mastering the wulin for nine minutes and your wrong lmao
The only other channels I've seen do anything similar to this are Skallagrim and Metatron. An incredibly interesting idea for a channel, and an enjoying one too. Keep it up
The motion capture of Zhanhu is actually made by a Chinese-local fencing group's help. Some of their members are doing HEMA as well, and some of them are practicing Chinese swordsmanship and maybe some other cultures. The funny fact is that in order to make the difference between Katana or maybe Nodachi, Ubisoft changed the historical weapon "Miaodao"（苗刀）into the “Changdao”. There is no scientific name of weapon called Changdao in Chinese because the word "Chang" means Long, it's an adjective word. So yes, there is no long saber with a straight blade in Chinese history, as far as I knew at least. But the funny thing is, Miaodao was created in Ming Dynasty, so does Zhanhu's background. At that period of time, China was having a war with Japan, so according to the Katana/Nodachi they seized from the battlefield, ancient Chinese general improved the Nodachi into the Miaodao, so yes technically Miaodao does related with Nodachi a lot. But from the design perspect, Ubisoft had to let players see the differences.
Isn't this sword called, zhanmadao? Sword that can behead horse? (I'm not a historical guy or chinese, sorry if I sound stupid)
@@kurodo9926 It's okay, but I didn't expect any reply though lol. Yes, the Zhanmadao（斩马刀）is a thing. But I personally don't believe this is a real-exist practical weapon. According to the descriptions of Zhanmadao from the ancient Chinese war book, there are multiple possible weapons. Yet people never really discovered any historical Zhanmadao from relic at all. Also, some descriptions of Zhanmadao, such as its weight is definitely hyperbole, it is no way a human being can use. After all, the name "Zhanmadao" shows up in many ancient books from dynasties, some of them are centuries apart, and there is no discovered Zhanmadao from the relic, so I don't think it is a real weapon. But the Miaodao or Changdao is something that can be found in the relic and almost the same with what the Ming dynasty's book recorded. I have to declare that I am not a scholar or professional guy, just normal people who studied martial arts and interested in swords, so I probably will make mistakes or what am I saying isn't totally correct XD. Anyway thanks for paying attention lol.
You almost nailed the trailer moves, dude! I practically got it right the first time I saw the trailer, after I got my Miaodao.
Underviewed channel. You definitely deserve more subs. Love your content!
I really enjoy your vids and i can see you put a lot of effort into your videos, so, thanks for existing!😁
The snap is how you trust with a jian but with 2 hands. And the top stands is called short fighting stands. It's a stance you retract in to protect yourself and because most of your weight is on the back leg you can launche kicks very easy from that postion. Or in sunda's case step in to do a attack. The side stances are the bow stance and reversed bow stance but he is not really flexiable enough to do them right. Bassicly same idee will help you step in for a sideways attack. Sow from a asian masrhelarts prespectif it's logical. Not trying to kritiek you if you don't really know you won't understand why but sunda does things pretty much right. One thing I'm not trained with this weapon sow I don't know how to use it, but as far as i can tell the did a kind of good job like with most of the chinees charakters.
Chinees charakters
Hahahahaa my favorite video so far. Loved the star wars references! ❤️
Awesome video man. Please keep making these videos.
Awesome video as usual!
Two-handed greatswords like that are the one case where spinny techniques can be justified. I practice the Iberian montante and the historical treatises have lots of spins and turns because it's designed to be used for crowd control and area denial, so many techniques are designed for opponents on multiple sides of you.
Really like the video! Always waiting for more! Keep it up :D
Another great vid Dani!! Can't wait for the next upload.
(not the meme)
I am indeed a kung fu practitioner and man... I gotta say you have a really nice eagle eye and went perfectly through all the main characteristics oh those stances. Eventhough they used those stances in the game as statics stances (or ready stances), both the bow stance (the one he is sideways to the opponent) and the false/cat stance (the one his feet are way too close) are stances used while attacking, defending, evading, etc. So they are not meant to be used as ready stances, hence why each one has really strong and weak points (eg. false/cat stance, in that case, is probably meant to be an evading move from a leg aimed attack, so he pulled it out at the same time he stays ready to counter attack (just like the ox stance as you said :). I'm quite impressed by your really nice analysis, well done!
Cool video. Even though I know nothing about the game, I still very much enjoyed watching. What sword I'd that? Closest I can think of I the Dragon King Miao dao.,
It's the Miao Dao from Sword Buyers Guide for $200. They don't explicitly say it, but I am fairly certain it's made by Ryuijin who make a lot of the Katanas on SBG. I'll have a review out for it at some point, but the short version of it is that it's worth the money. Just make sure if you cut water targets, to immediately clean the blade. No joke, I had minor rust spot come up within 20 minutes of droplets sitting stagnate on the blade, maybe even less than 20 minutes. My only real complaint with the sword.
@@GoGoDani cool. Thanks. I'll check them out. You're probably right about the ryujin making them.
@@erichusayn Yeah, I mean when you look at it up close it really does look like a long katana blade, but that's not bad considering that what you kinda want in a two-handed saber-like blade. They even went as far as to keep the katana like bo-hi. It has a good feeling to it though, so in the end it doesn't really matter anyways.
If weight is equal on both feet, then in order to move you have to take the weight off a foot before you move it, an extra step in the process. So in Chinese martial arts they avoid 'doubleweighting'. The weight is almost always over %70 on one leg or the other except in motion. Cool video!
Shaman is just using her crazy Viking blood magic
A comment I saw on the trailer that pointed out that he did his drill with his eyes closed
Zhanhu‘s actual name is 斩虎 means cut tiger in half（the power to beat a tiger）.The translation in the video means 战虎. The chinese heroes in the game except Nuxia，are using nick names，not their real names，for example Tiandi means sky and ground and JiangJun means general.ShaoLin is a style of martial art.Not his name
Just noticed a thing, the top guard footwork is compareable to the (I don't even know if that's the real word for it) cat stance, it is used in karate (Yes I practice that so I know at least slightly what I am saying). In this stance the weight is almost completely on the leg further away of the enemy.
Just wanted to mention it, altho I don't think there is a connection between kempo karate and a chinese sword art.
Hope it was at least a little informative.
So id like to put my own thoughts in. Having done martial arts for a long time i can say the devs had no idea of realism in the stances although hes stands in a long bow stance thats isnt Necessary for his side guards. In his top guard he stands in a cat stance which is ment for small movements back and forth not long hops and skips like he does. For his side guards all he has to do is move his blade to that side and it would have worked or stand in a more comfortable arrow stance which is squared off but still guarded
Check out the duel clip from a movie called the deluge, has a move almost just like the on here
I kinda wanted you to talk about the "zone attack" of the new wu lin hero
Looking back at the Zhan Hu trailer, I just realized that he does all these movements with his eyes closed...
Alright man, y'know what that means! XD
10:40 we’ll his palm strike in game is pretty useful
Great video even though you don’t have very much experience in this field of weaponry I can tell that you only made points about things you’re confident about. I won’t pretend to be a master... cause I’m not. But I have done Shaolin Hand to hand fighting for a bit (and while I personally don’t have experience with this weapon) I noticed that in his top stance he is in what we call a “Cat stance”. As far as I know it’s mainly used for kicking but in that stance 100% of your weight is on your back leg and your front leg is just in front of you. It’s used for keeping Balance while kicking. That may explain why his feet were so close together. That said I wish he was a bit lower. My master would hit me with a stick if I looked like that ahaha
so basically he's doing Heavy + GB + Heavy + Heavy + Heavy cancel into Feint then switch side then Heavy
Amazing video, and recreation of Zhanhu’s trailer, how many gallon jugs did you go through?
Fantastic video! I just got back into playing FH and as a result I've discovered your channel, I'd say that's a good result!
Quick question: Isn't the Zhunhu's forward dash light attack basically just a snap cut? I haven't done very much longsword training sadly but I've studied it a bit and snap cuts are a pretty common and perfectly viable combat move as I understand it.
I practiced kempo karate and Taekwondo I think zanhu is very similar to Taekwondo because his moves are kind of based on his legs and his movements and the Taekwondo I practiced was based on your kicks and leg movements
The reason zunhu does those attacks is bc there presenting his moves that he has in the game.
Here before this blows up. The amount of work on this is insane and will def get the attention it deserves.
Also, shaman does not stand, *she s t a b s*
I'll see myself out
Can we get more of these??
Bro I remember swing you performing their routine on Reddit and I didn't even know it was you.
Hey mate, do you have an analysis on Tiandi or Shaolin? I'd like to hear and see what you think of them.
And you're right that Zhanhu is more for show, but you have to admit...he flows like water, I think!
There was someone who trained in a Shaolin monk for a long time that did some critique on the Wulin, mainly the Shaolin
15:00 Wiki is not quite accurate. Actually,“Chang Dao” means “Long Knife” in Putonghua , no matter it is straight or curve blade. And “Zhi Dao” means “Straight Knife”, “Wan Dao” means “Curve Knife”
“Dao” in Putonghua means single blade short handle weapon, like katana, saber, machete, meal knife. “Jian” means double blade short handle weapon, like German Sword, Gladius. FYI
This Chinese era is Ming Dynasty. 1368-1644. He is using Changdao.
Do you plan on doing a shugoki analysis? Asking for a friend
At some point I might, but that would be far in the future
GoGoDani as long as it happens at some point I’m happy. Do you have a specific order of characters you plan on doing?
Didn't Ubisoft say that they got someone from China who practises the martial art that Sun Da uses to motion caption it all?
its funny how zhanhus here use a stance for balance (gongbu) but turn the body the wrong way...wth for honor i was completly confused aswell
I like the video, but I can't help but say that you didn't properly imitate the zhanhu's stance on the thumbnail.
Also, I know a lot of the movement in the trailer seems pointless. But it is what is called "formula" which is a demonstration of skill rather than a series of optimal battle moves. And yes, there are certain moves like "hitting the lantern" that look silly and unnecessary, but yo need to know that the formula is not designed to be used in a real fight most of the time. In other words, it is a serie of difficult movements that one makes to demonstrate mastery or in this case "excellence". Quoting zhanhu a bit.
I really love your work, and yor dedication! Keep doing this kind of stuff. ❣
Have you seen that one skallagrim video where he collabed with a guy who brought in a bunch of chinese jians?
About the Shaman stance: she is an insane woman who was probably exiled, so she wasn’t going to have anyone to teach her fighting stances, let alone teaching her not to eat people
I took martial Arts I'm no master but I was taught to read your opponent what he's about to do and at same time make it hard for your opponent to read your body language dont know if that help any.
Wouldn’t it be much better to use a straight sword except one with the weight added to the end as most Chinese techniques need specific balancing of the sword?
I don’t do Chinese Martial Arts, but as someone who has done karate (Yes I know karate is different from a Chinese martial arts) for almost a decade, Zhanhu’s stances are kinda shit to be honest. I’m just going off what I’m knowing, but yeah, I can agree it’s easy to fall from a push in those stances, but the stances are not meant to be able to stay, but instead be quick and agile and counter-attack through dodging. Then again, I’m assuming these characters have been training for many years. After some time it would take more effort to make one lose their balance from a push or shove. (I have practiced keeping my balance in stances similar to these and after some time it’s not easy to make someone lose their balance). Although it looks like he has an imbalance in his stance, there is actually a balance of weight believe it or not. Overall, Zhanhu’s stances need work in regards to looks but assuming he’s trained for years he probably knows what he’s doing.
Nice 👍
I've been mastering the ways of the Wu Lynn my entire life and your wrong LMAO
As a shaman main, shes perfect change my mind
You say shaman doesmt know how yo stand,but does it matter when her teeth are stronger then all elementsknown by man.
Nice video, but maybe you should ask some miaodao pros in china about some thing you say... Because wushu is very diffrent from European martial arts... （And wulin 武林 is means the world of chinese martial art, wushu 武术 is the way of chinese martial art）and in game zhanhu is using a tanghengdao 唐横刀
one more thing the trailer is stupid ignore the trailer
By the way where did you get the tang heng dao term from?
How does he freeze the game an shoot shots like this?
What? He was using a trailer
Zhanhu is Joe exotic confirmed
Shaman is meant to look like she hasn't been taught by people. Shes meant to look like an animal, wild, feral, and unpredictable. Of course she isnt going to stand normally in terms of a fighting stance, on top of that shes also supposedly meant for quick hit and run attacks, shes also low to the ground to maintain energy build up for her charging shoulder bashes or tackling. Again shes supposed to mimic animal behavior.
Shaman was a mistake
@@gutnaffs.3143 as were you
@@carna-9501 That would be out of my control, but the developers of this game decided shaman would be a good character to release during one of the worst toxic moments in for honor would be a good idea? Shaman is toxic inducing by design. Even if I was a mistake, shaman was intentionally created with toxicity in mind.
@@gutnaffs.3143 I play shaman, I actually use combos, and message people that they help me improve my gameplay. And hey, shes better than BP
@@carna-9501 okay but that's kinda irrelevant to how developers designed a toxic character. Are you saying people should get help in how to defeat her? I agree, is she better than BP, I dont know about that.
Thats a great recreation, but I think it's slightly too far apart, either that or the ingame Sun Da is a bit taller than you
Yeah, I've practiced with various Chang Dao, Sabers, Jian, and the like in TCMA. Chinese swordsmanship is very unique in its movements and application, but personal preference plays the huge part in how well you learn and how much you absorb when practicing Chinese swordsmanship. It is a lot more challenging than HEMA or Kendo or whatever. You have a different take on these stances and movements that I haven't seen before, and I can clearly see there's a lot you don't understand about this martial art, but you're pretty good. Just don't be ignorant to it. Look into it more. An interesting video 👍
(Edit) P.S. don't take this the wrong way
Obviously your understanding of ZhanHu's moves is wrong, you can refer to this video:ua-cam.com/video/jNxQ0XAVtEg/v-deo.html
By the way, this is the Chinese Miao Dao, not the Japanese sword, the two are very different.
Did you even watch the video? He knows
5:21 i think the dash attack is a bit too wasteful on movement and makes it worse by instead of just usn the strike when he jumps or hops, after hoppin he loses all the kinetic energy he could have used for it for the strike. like he jumps forward with the blade in front of him then he steps once more AND then does more wasted movement by bringing the darn blade down to his stomach after which he uses more power to actually use the poke. like holy shet he could have just used the hop for a faster and stronger attack, but no he needed to waste all that energy for 2 moves instead of 1 clean move. really annoys the shit out of me. like the hop is good, then he steps a second time and brings his hand down to move the darn sword upwards like a turd which is why he loses more energy instead of using gravity to his advantage, he goes against it. really such a shame 1 good movement then using 1 wasted movement really just a way to make it flashier. the way you swung it is a bit better but still just wastes energy imo. you dont take a second step but you still bring down the arm and then throw the sword in instead of hoppin onto the taget and hitting him with it from upwards with the help of gravity, a lot of wasted movement.
Now perform kensei's
You're taking the foot stance too literally. Its looks like Ubisoft just took a transitional stance and used it as an actual stance to make zhanhu look unique.
Also I would like to point out Kung Fu practitioner tend to really exaggerate these transitional stance to the point they end up losing their purpose and just becomes theatrical dance.
Where did you get the sword?
sbg-sword-store.sword-buyers-guide.com/product854.html
I highly recommend it. Hopefully I can get around to making a dedicated review for it, but things have been kinda hectic lately.
The Question that I want to ask is this. Is this a martial artist with enough expertise and a soldier with combat experience?
No is the awnser to both questions. Get me a soldier hired by a professional army who actually fights with a sword to survive and make due (nobody) - and Ill show you a man who can judge wether or not the for Honor moves are real in the cutscenes.
To me this is the equivalent of a backyard shooter pretending to be a WS in the Army or a Marine with Combat Experience.
except you did it with a katana instead of a chinese sword
All that attention to detail, yet you misspell "Performing".
Yeah, I’m "that guy".
...*FUCK*
GOD DAMN FEET
His foot work is shit. When going from a long sword stance from German height stance to a forwards stab, the forward stab is actually similar to the kendo forward back push forward stepping. When he forward dashes he still keeps that Wide A stance of the German style when he moves one foot forward which is so wrong.
Ive been mastering the ways of the wulin for nine years nao and ur wrong lmao
Like 593 y comentario 65 xddd
Old china > current china
Please, don't be one of THOSE channels. :/