I like the simplicity of this unit and the general appeal, i'm not looking for anything special just a nice little unit that i can listen to my records on and i think this might be the one!
Setting tracking force (roughly) without a scale, turn counterweight until tone arm "floats" level above platter, holding weight in place turn indicator wheel till zero is matched with the notch mark (you might have to do this a few times, the weight may move slightly), then turn entire weight counter clockwise until 2.5, then you have the tracking force roughly set to 2.5 grams which is about right for the 3600L cartridge this uses.
Here's my understanding of the different hole sizes. Columbia created the 33, and RCA Victor responded with the 45. The hole in 45s meant the 33s players couldn't play them, and RCA players couldn't support 33s, forcing people to buy records from the same company/licensee. As seen in this vid, it's easy to adapt a 33 player to play 45s, so RCA's plan kinda backfired. Kinda like the war between Beta and VHS. One gives longer play time at slightly less quality. Like VHS, LP's meant you could stay on the couch a little longer. couch potatoes gonna couch, speaking as an official member of the couch potato club.
Manual explains how to set the tracking force. It is the conventional method that has been used for a long time. The scale is movable, separate from the weight itself just so everybody knows that part of this unit is very very nice.
When balancing the tonearm you really should remove the plastic that protects the stylus as it adds extra weight to the tonearm resulting in an unbalanced tonearm.
It looks like a good quality set up with a proper counterweight .Hopefully the tracking force is not over 2 grams unlike Crosley Vinyl Grinders that has 6 g's or more ....I cannot understand why these makers of belt drives cannot make a simple strobe pitch for accurate adjustment because they do get too slow or too fast after a while .I have a BIC 912 over 43 years old and is not loved by the serous community of hi fi but with a little work of putting sntyh oil of the shaft and bearings and a decent factory strobe adjustment it came with ,it holds it tight according to the phone app RPM WOW .
Yes we have 45 adaptors on our turntables in europe, and elsewhere, and 45's with 40 mm hole in the middle as well, the reason they got 40mm big hole, we can look to RCA Victor who invented the 45 records in 1948, they also made stackable recordplayers called Victrola, later all records plants made an deal to make a 40mm hole in the middle of 45's, because the producers of jukeboxes came on 45's, they tested them, and they figured out that since a jukebox is an mechanical maschine, the records hit the platter on the player more easy with with a big hole, than a little hole, 40mm hole became standard on 45's in the most countries, with some exceptions of course.. Btw the player you show here is bether than the plastic Crosley like, in suicases, the speakers in them sound worst than the speakers on a laptop, but this one was better, and i agree that they should have a little slot to the 45 adapter
That's an interesting way of setting tracking force. I'll try it next time. What I usually do to set it is setting the counterweight in a position where the tonearm would float in the air parallel to the turntable body, then zero out the scale on the counterweight and set tracking force according to the cartridge specs (without the styles protection cover) PS cool goofy record!
It's funny how you mention the 45 RPM adapter as something for American single records. Only in modern times, I've heard that in the UK, 7-inch records most often used the same standard holes as LPs, but southern European me has only seen a bunch of those at home or elsewhere as a kid. Most had the large hub and did require the adapter. Same with the ones I find in thrift shops. As a separate, unrelated comment, does anybody know how this turntable can switch from line level to phono not having a ground wire?
@@Ekkaisara I have bought at a Goodwill a pair of Sony U560 for $25 & a pair of KLH 911B speakers for $15 at a Disable Veteran Thrift Store in my area. Every so often good speakers like these pop up in thrift stores. As long as they are from a well known brand from the 80's through the mid 2000's you'll get a real good sound. Just make sure they work first, and have no visible damage to the cones.
Look for the specific tracking weight for that Audio Technica cartridge. I think it may be a little heavier than 2 grams. It looks like the same cartridge on the Audio Technica LP60.
hi we had a curry in the past i pick up a record deck from them it looked bad i was wroung big time never got by looks it lasted of hell of a long time till i sold all my records of my cats were up setting them went over to tape decks the pro one's soundcraft 381-8 kind 71/2 with a cat cover on it
Pity this isn't one though. Maybe connected to an external amp / receiver it would sound better, but then you might as well buy one that doesn't have the crappy speakers and internal amp. One step up from a Cruiser, and then only because it has an AT stylus and a metal platter, which aren't worth 4x the price.
@@rich_edwards79 That is how I would use it, I'm just saying better than those cheaply made ones you get from Aldi. For the cost you would be better buying a technics turntable second hand through ebay, a top model from the 1970's will have the best sound but sadly be up to twice the cost of this. 50 years old but still can't be beaten on sound and built to last with always the option to rebuild it. A cheaper one from the 80's through to the mid 90's would cost way less than buying this one new and still have better sound.
@@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 I don't read the comments. I watch and state my own views and add what other people have told me. Don't like my views? Don't read them, but I know a lot of people that wish you could buy a decent new turntable. But I haven't come here to troll like you.
@@rich_edwards79 Some people just want to play records for the aesthetic Edwards. If I just wanna play my $20 silly little Maya Hawke record without scratching the shit out of it, I’m not gonna go buy three separate things to do so.
mids and bass sound nice. not so much the highs. then again i'm not getting the full story with the camera mic. certainly better than i expected though :)
unless it's a battery powered portable, hell no to integrated speakers. Not into record player all in one units - isolation in these modern units is practically non existent.. with that cheap material they use (not like Garrard all in one) . Another possible exception are those military grade record players with all speeds that you find in schools.
Ironically the unit seems to have decent (for somethig low end) isolation feet. But hey, it's a good thing to have if you use this hooked to an audio system/active speakers... Which one should REALLY do, and not just because of the built in speakers vibrations to be sure...
I haven bought a turntable since 1986 (when I discovered CD's) as I hated the sound quality of vinyl. From which point I threw away my horrible, bad sounding records, gave the record player to a charity shop and that was it for me for vinyl and I have never been happier. But, hey, you do you.
Probably a result of a damaged record, stylus, or a vibration-susceptible plate. The "scratch" of a record (i.e. commonly seen in media) is actually what damaged goods sound like - something in good condition or of good quality should have a very clean sound
I like the simplicity of this unit and the general appeal, i'm not looking for anything special just a nice little unit that i can listen to my records on and i think this might be the one!
Hey, im thinking the same. Did you end up getting one? If so, what do you think?
Setting tracking force (roughly) without a scale, turn counterweight until tone arm "floats" level above platter, holding weight in place turn indicator wheel till zero is matched with the notch mark (you might have to do this a few times, the weight may move slightly), then turn entire weight counter clockwise until 2.5, then you have the tracking force roughly set to 2.5 grams which is about right for the 3600L cartridge this uses.
Here's my understanding of the different hole sizes. Columbia created the 33, and RCA Victor responded with the 45. The hole in 45s meant the 33s players couldn't play them, and RCA players couldn't support 33s, forcing people to buy records from the same company/licensee. As seen in this vid, it's easy to adapt a 33 player to play 45s, so RCA's plan kinda backfired. Kinda like the war between Beta and VHS. One gives longer play time at slightly less quality. Like VHS, LP's meant you could stay on the couch a little longer. couch potatoes gonna couch, speaking as an official member of the couch potato club.
I bet you watched Techmoan's video on record format wars!
Manual explains how to set the tracking force. It is the conventional method that has been used for a long time. The scale is movable, separate from the weight itself just so everybody knows that part of this unit is very very nice.
The large hole in the 7-inch 45 was designed for jukebox play.
Slides onto the large center pole easier to stack and play as well part of that design in the jukeboxes> I miss the real jukebox vibe.
Yep, which is why if you bought a used 7" single with an adaptor in the middle it was likely an ex-jukebox disc.
Given that it has a built-in speaker, having the term "RENEWED VIBRATIONS" written in all caps right on the box doesn't inspire confidence.
Good catch.
When balancing the tonearm you really should remove the plastic that protects the stylus as it adds extra weight to the tonearm resulting in an unbalanced tonearm.
It looks like a good quality set up with a proper counterweight .Hopefully the tracking force is not over 2 grams unlike Crosley Vinyl Grinders that has 6 g's or more ....I cannot understand why these makers of belt drives cannot make a simple strobe pitch for accurate adjustment because they do get too slow or too fast after a while .I have a BIC 912 over 43 years old and is not loved by the serous community of hi fi but with a little work of putting sntyh oil of the shaft and bearings and a decent factory strobe adjustment it came with ,it holds it tight according to the phone app RPM WOW .
What ...No headphone socket ? ( not interested in bluetooth? ) DEAL KILLER
Looks like cheap ! Very cheap !!!
It 200$
Yes we have 45 adaptors on our turntables in europe, and elsewhere, and 45's with 40 mm hole in the middle as well, the reason they got 40mm big hole, we can look to RCA Victor who invented the 45 records in 1948, they also made stackable recordplayers called Victrola, later all records plants made an deal to make a 40mm hole in the middle of 45's, because the producers of jukeboxes came on 45's, they tested them, and they figured out that since a jukebox is an mechanical maschine, the records hit the platter on the player more easy with with a big hole, than a little hole, 40mm hole became standard on 45's in the most countries, with some exceptions of course.. Btw the player you show here is bether than the plastic Crosley like, in suicases, the speakers in them sound worst than the speakers on a laptop, but this one was better, and i agree that they should have a little slot to the 45 adapter
That's an interesting way of setting tracking force. I'll try it next time. What I usually do to set it is setting the counterweight in a position where the tonearm would float in the air parallel to the turntable body, then zero out the scale on the counterweight and set tracking force according to the cartridge specs (without the styles protection cover)
PS cool goofy record!
I do it like you as well and it is the correct way to do it
Anybody know if the cartridge/headshells can be upgraded on these ? Thanks .
I have some Granola Dips in my neck of the woods, but I don’t think they’re Quakers.
I don't have this player, but I've been considering it. I read that it will stop 3 minutes after the end of the record.
These are only a notch above those Crosley suitcase players.
I would say this is about three notches above that.
The bigger holes in 45 rpm records were to accommodate various types of record changers and Juke boxes I guess
It's funny how you mention the 45 RPM adapter as something for American single records. Only in modern times, I've heard that in the UK, 7-inch records most often used the same standard holes as LPs, but southern European me has only seen a bunch of those at home or elsewhere as a kid. Most had the large hub and did require the adapter. Same with the ones I find in thrift shops.
As a separate, unrelated comment, does anybody know how this turntable can switch from line level to phono not having a ground wire?
In Germany, where I live, big holes in 45s were also quite common. I am pretty sure they were the standard here from the 50s-early 90s.
What brand is this device ? Is it in stereo and bluetooth system' ? (Banyumas, Central Java)
Well for the price (without any coupons) I'd just stick with a Audio-Technica AT-LP60X (or AT-LP3BK when it's on sale for $170), and a cheap
Then what speakers would you recommend? Since I assume they'd be about as expensive as the record player but idk a lot.
@@Ekkaisara I have bought at a Goodwill a pair of Sony U560 for $25 & a pair of KLH 911B speakers for $15 at a Disable Veteran Thrift Store in my area. Every so often good speakers like these pop up in thrift stores. As long as they are from a well known brand from the 80's through the mid 2000's you'll get a real good sound. Just make sure they work first, and have no visible damage to the cones.
Look for the specific tracking weight for that Audio Technica cartridge. I think it may be a little heavier than 2 grams. It looks like the same cartridge on the Audio Technica LP60.
I'm tempted about getting this cuz I'm trying to reduce a lot of clutter
I'm rather impressed by this.
hi we had a curry in the past i pick up a record deck from them it looked bad i was wroung
big time never got by looks it lasted of hell of a long time
till i sold all my records of my cats were up setting them
went over to tape decks the pro one's soundcraft 381-8 kind
71/2 with a cat cover on it
No treble/bass adjustment. No auto tone arm. 😮
So its a good starter then? Thats what im getting out of this
The first thing I would do would be to swap out that 3600 with something better
This is what people want, a half decent modern record player.
Dave , representing people in the comments again 😅
Pity this isn't one though. Maybe connected to an external amp / receiver it would sound better, but then you might as well buy one that doesn't have the crappy speakers and internal amp. One step up from a Cruiser, and then only because it has an AT stylus and a metal platter, which aren't worth 4x the price.
@@rich_edwards79 That is how I would use it, I'm just saying better than those cheaply made ones you get from Aldi.
For the cost you would be better buying a technics turntable second hand through ebay, a top model from the 1970's will have the best sound but sadly be up to twice the cost of this.
50 years old but still can't be beaten on sound and built to last with always the option to rebuild it.
A cheaper one from the 80's through to the mid 90's would cost way less than buying this one new and still have better sound.
@@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 I don't read the comments. I watch and state my own views and add what other people have told me.
Don't like my views? Don't read them, but I know a lot of people that wish you could buy a decent new turntable.
But I haven't come here to troll like you.
@@rich_edwards79 Some people just want to play records for the aesthetic Edwards. If I just wanna play my $20 silly little Maya Hawke record without scratching the shit out of it, I’m not gonna go buy three separate things to do so.
Hi! I just got this turntable- and the voice is super distorted - it's a taylor swift vinyl and it sounds like a man. Do you know how I fix this?
I changed the vinyl and it's her normal voice 😂 is the vinyl the issue then?
Sounds like a speed setting issue or the player is broken.
Mine doesn't work
Mine is not turning
mids and bass sound nice. not so much the highs. then again i'm not getting the full story with the camera mic. certainly better than i expected though :)
I would have preferred a deeper bass sound but it wasn’t awful and plastic sounding.
please reed yo user manual's to preveut damage or misuse such as in this video
Users manual wasn’t helpful and this isn’t rocket science.
I have that KFC Christmas record!
Is the electric cable part of the package?
Three months later, databits decides to get a tonearm scale.
Yup. All records played without the scale…shredded to bits.
Thank you for all you did!!
Tf is that music!
Amazing
No.
unless it's a battery powered portable, hell no to integrated speakers. Not into record player all in one units - isolation in these modern units is practically non existent.. with that cheap material they use (not like Garrard all in one) . Another possible exception are those military grade record players with all speeds that you find in schools.
Ironically the unit seems to have decent (for somethig low end) isolation feet. But hey, it's a good thing to have if you use this hooked to an audio system/active speakers... Which one should REALLY do, and not just because of the built in speakers vibrations to be sure...
I haven bought a turntable since 1986 (when I discovered CD's) as I hated the sound quality of vinyl. From which point I threw away my horrible, bad sounding records, gave the record player to a charity shop and that was it for me for vinyl and I have never been happier. But, hey, you do you.
Probably a result of a damaged record, stylus, or a vibration-susceptible plate. The "scratch" of a record (i.e. commonly seen in media) is actually what damaged goods sound like - something in good condition or of good quality should have a very clean sound