Camping Wood Stove with Off Grid Thermoelectric Generator - M-Stove Project Part-7
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I conducted this experiment to see if I could produce electricity using the surplus heat from the wood stove.
1. Power Generation Module
I installed two thermoelectric elements that can be used stably even at a surface temperature of up to 250 degrees Celsius on the aluminum plate and connected them in series. And I installed computer CPU radiator and cooling fan for cooling. It is said that the greater the temperature difference between the both surface of the element, the more power they can produce.
2. Installation of Power Generation Module
I tried to generate power by installing the generation module vertically on the stove pipe. The module was brought into contact with the heat-absorbing surface at the appropriate height of the chimney that can use heat, and was fixed with a stainless steel band.
3. Power Generation Performance
I added firewood to the firebox and burned it to heat up the stove, and the chimney gradually became hot. The LED of the constant voltage module did not light up, but it was confirmed by the multimeter that electricity was produced. The voltage was lower than expected. I confirmed that the surface temperature of the stove pipe, which installed the first power module with a contact thermometer, was less than 100 degrees Celsius. So, the power generation module was installed at a lower level. The intensity of wood fires in the stove was increased and a cooling fan was operated to try to make a difference in temperature. Although it was possible to secure a voltage of up to 3.5 volts, it was far less than the target voltage of 6.5 volts for operating the system.
4. Conclusion, Improvements
There are two sides of the thermoelectric element, and the heating surface should absorb heat as much as possible within the endurance limit, and the surface to be cooled should be cooled as cold as possible. And the larger the temperature difference between the two sides, the higher the power is produced. It should be devised to maintain a large temperature difference between the thermoelectric elements.
Thank you for watching.
Always be safe and have a fun camping.
Stay safe.
Disclaimer: Using a stove in a confined space can be very dangerous. When using a stove, be sure to ventilate properly and be prepared for fire or other safety accidents. I am not responsible for any loss or injury caused by carelessness.
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It's nice to see power generation videos on UA-cam that don't lie. Excellent experimentation.
Thanks for watching😊
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I like your video because there's zero talking involved. You just show the work & let it speak for itself. Too many annoying ppl on youtube just blabbing.
Thanks for your support!
Nice mate, I like it. Ive built a similar thing for a kerosene lantern and an alcohol stove. I had to run the hot side at at least 130 degrees to really get power running. The kero lantern could do it, but I needed a heatsink on the hot side as well to really suck up the heat. Worked out very sweet, light, and a phone charger!
One major bit of advice, you use tapped holes on both the heatsink and the mount. TEC’s, ive found, need to be clamped tight. Drill out the hot side, so your pulling the bolts down hard on the sinks. Full wrench hard. Crush them. I also didnt bolt directly to the heatsink, but a bar across it, with the heads out of the path of the heat. Dont want the bolts themselves to conduct heat from your hot to cold side.
I also found I needed to ‘bootstrap’ the fans, like you do. I just put a 9v battery (PP3) clip on the fans, so I could clip on a 9V battery. Then another PP3 clip across the TEC’s and charger circuit. Light the lamp, warm it up, attach the battery to the fans. Once everything is up to temp, about 6v, swap the fans from the batterys clip to the TEC. You need a starter battery, but it really was the ‘eureka’ moment for the project.
I’d also ditch the swanky LED display USB regulator. I used a very basic single cell LIPO charger with an 18650 holder. Super tolerant of wide input voltages, I tended to get between 4 and 6v, depending on ambient temp and load. And that charged 18650’s fine. Most of my load is geared to those cells, USB charger for my phone n tablet, torch, vape, tent lamps, all 18650’s. Keeps it efficient. To go from TEC voltage > 5v (with LEDs) > battery bank > 5v > usage , lots of loss. TEC voltage > 18650 > usage, really only the battery charging loss there.
Unfortunately, I wasn't using high temp TEC’s. My project came from another that used 6 TEC’s as a chiller, and the best price I got was from a pack of 10. so I had 4 for free. What else can I do with these? The kero one still lives, but I killed the rest on an alcohol stove, finding how hard can I run these? About 8v, 6W out, running the fans from the TEC. Then there is that horrible ceramic plink sound, and everything goes to 0. the kero lamp gets about 4w useful power to the batteries.
TL;DR Clamp your TEC's tight and isolated, and use direct battery charging. Your going to have a lantern or fire lit anyway, might as well use that heat!
TEG . No TEC . Por eso no funciona . Debe ser seebeck (TEG ) nunca peltier (TEC) error
👍👍👍 Yesterday I made a video of a mini thermoelectric generator on TEP1-142-T300. Your design is very interesting, a little grammatical, Thanks for the good video! 👍👍👍
I made a generator on 6 elements connected in series. I managed to reach 1000 mAh of 5 Volt with a load.
Hi. Thanks for watching. Check out my latest video of thermoelectric generator.
you also need thermal grease on the hot side of the chip as well , for the same reason as the cold side of the chip
Try wiring the fans to the input side of the 5v converter instead of the output. The fans will activate at less than 5v and will provide an ever increasing temprature differential for the peltier junctions. They will just work better and better untill they produce 6+v and the converter kicks in and charges your battery bank. Just an option.
And Personal computer fans.. are far more efficient than the fan he used :) Even with a variable power switch built in.
Que no deben ser TEC (Term Electric Cooler) las que hay q instalar son TEG ( TERM ELECTRIC GENERATOR ) efecto seebeck . No peltier
@@marioschutrumpf9463 I think it's all the same principle. You can power it to make a cooler or you can use a thermal gradient to generate a current.
Whatever the case, I think you could optimize it by using the draft of the fire to draw cold air through or over the cold side of your TEG. You're mainly running that thing in the cold, and the outside air is an endless supply of cool/cold air. Too bad I'm not an engineer, or I would either build one, myself, or know it's a dumb idea. Wait. I can go on thinking what I want, if I don't do or test anything. I can hold on to that idea as long as I please, now! Cool!
오늘 아침 화목난로를 받고 깜놀했습니다
너무 꼼꼼하게 보내주신데에 연통 보호하라고 에어캡도 새거 보내 주신것 같은데 정성스러움에 감동까지 받았습니다.
하나하나 완벽하게 받았습니다.서비스로 감동서비스 굿입니다.
감사하게 잘쓰겠습니다..
유투브 100만 가길 진심 바라겠습니다.
잘 받으셔서 다행입니다. 장난감이다 생각하시고 야외에서 재미나게 쓰시기 바랍니다. 다시 한 번 말씀드리지만 취침시 사용은 안됩니다. ^^ 감사합니다.
В СССР выпускали термоэлементы ещё до Великой Отечественной,они тянули ламповый переносной приёмник
The genius of the human mind. Shame more people arent as constructive as this! Bravo Sir. Thank you for sharing.
Я тоже тестровал эти Пельте. Эфективность низкая. И ты используешь электричество для вентиляторов чтобы их охладить больше чем они дадут электричества ))) А идея отличная !!
So what you need to do is stack them. Hot to cold side and run them in parallel. So long as you still have a hot and a cold side they will balance the heat out
Элементы Пеллетье надо напрямую на трубу устанавливать. Мне кажется слишком много тепловых переходов в твоей конструкции, друг. И ещё - я бы добавил экран между горячей и холодной сторонами устройства. Кулеры нагреваются восходящим горячим воздухом от печи.
Удачи тебе в экспериментах!
정말 캠핑투게더님의 아이디어는 어디까지인지 대단하십니다~
From a retired Navy electrician that is interesting. A 12 volt 5 amp output would be nice for what I have in mind.
Man, it keeps getting better! Kudos!
IMHO this CPU coolers using heat pipes should stand upright for best performance. Cool video. Thanks!
Double les modules Peltier en série et tu doubleras ton voltage . Très intéressant. Si tu développe un modèle 12v ou 24v performant tu vas trouver des clients !! 👍🏻
Ciao! 🇮🇪
Beh.. Son passati circa 40 anni quando giocavo con le Peltier.
Cmq potevi fare un raffreddamento ad acqua.
Sicuramente il risultato era migliore ottenendo il vero potenziale reale a causa dello scambio termico rivelato dal sandwich dei semiconduttori interni alla Peltier.
Infatti, più raffreddi il lato freddo in questo caso meglio sarà la risoluzione nella potenza.
E questo vale anche per il lato caldo,
Se la cella la usi per un eventuale frigo.
Nel frigo più raffreddi il lato caldo più precipita la temperatura oltre i 25° sotto zero il lato freddo.
Quindi il raffreddamento è estremamente importante per una buona efficienza anche in volt.
E dovresti sapere che le celle di Peltier se superano una certa temperatura nel lato caldo, si danneggiano irrimediabilmente.
Scusa se mi son permesso qualche suggerimento.
Ciao :)
I think thermoelectric elements work better at higher temperature variables. Maybe you can ice the cold side to see if camping in the snow and moving the radiators outside with ice water being pumped into the tent through insulated tubing to a copper heat exchanger on top of the thermoelectric elements would be an improvement. But what would circulate the water? Another need for energy? What about thermally inducing the flow? I see a lot of people doing that to make hot water. No pump, just temperature variables moving the water. One other thing I was thinking, maybe the radiator you're using can be better. The ones you're using are for taking the high temp off processors, supper HOT! I think if you got your temp colder you're going to find better results. I really like the way you think! And you're mechanically inclined enough to do some really nice work!
Using water pipes heatsink away from the stove would be rather better, no noise, no power output problems.
Русские партизаны в окружении использовали эти элементы пельтье для радиостанций еще в 2 мировой войне.
Russian partisans in the environment used these Peltier elements for radio stations back in World War II
Сначала снял крепление, а потом такой, блин, надо же башни как то закрепить 😆👍🔥
Great idea...few things can be added..
1: Delta T is most important, If you keep colder side out of camping tent then it would increase its efficiency and power output, since hot environment inside camp is not allowing that Delta T..
2: Add exhaust duct flapper to constant the heat in duct..Normally 150°C should be enough for a good TE to perform at max..
3: Make Peltier contact flat to the duct.
Most importantly, wish you all the best..will appreciate to see further follow up till success..😁
Thanks for the idea. Stay safe!
겨울에 귤에 많이 나오니 구리판 꼽아서 귤한 500개 연결하는게 더 나을거같아요 까먹으면서
새벽에 이런 놀이는 너무 재미있습니다
чТО БЫ получить напряжение от тепла - нужно напряжение что бы погасить тепло. Премию дарвина в студию!
Hay que seguir investigando y probando!!!, Bien por vos!!!
Le système de refroidissement n'est pas fait pour être à l'horizontale. Chaque tube de cuivre contient un liquide qui s'évapore à la base chaude et se condense dans les ailettes d'aluminium. Essaie de le placer horizontalement et il refroidira extrêmement bien +- 250W de dissipation de chaleur par éléments. Là tu obtiendras plus de différence de température aux extrémités du module péltier
열전소자는 효율이 낮아서 직렬로 많이 연결해야 그나마 전압이 나옵니다.
난로로 물을 끓여서 그 압력으로 팬이나 발전기를 돌리는게 더 나을겁니다.
As always you are a great craftsman
If 2 TEM (Peltier) in series = 3.5 vDC, then 4 of them would be 7 vDC. Looks like 5 TEM in series is what you need. Also, the rising heat from the stove shouldn't be entering into cooling unit/radiator. Interesting experiment. It was fun to watch.
Thanks for your idea! I will try do more on this. Stay safe!
Great project but breaking thermal barrier with the four fixing screws, they transfer heat to the cooler. a piece of 25mm square bar the length of the channel, and basically clamp everything together.. the greater the differential the better the power output... good work.
Hi Aiden! Thanks for watching! After I found its inefficiency, I modified all these installed with water cooling module and it worked great! Check the video out. ua-cam.com/video/H0Qva6JxSD0/v-deo.html
@@campingtogether Hi im working on similar project, have been for last couple of years, cant give too much away... i thought about putting, the pc heatsinks in a tube, fan on the intake so cooler air, have so clip onto flu pipe. and have a flexiible pipe off the outlet to another area. blown warm,dry! air!... but what i was on about was that using four screws, they are tranfering a lot of heat to the heat sink. by putting a piece of box section behind the heat pad of the heat sink, and three fixings one either end and one in middle. the heat will transfer to the box section first, aluminium woud be good as disapate the heat!... like your work..
Having power is like the cherry on to. I'd be happy with it just being warm.
👍👌👍
Great idea, the project gets better all the time😀
Я буду пробовать собирать такой же генератор, но только уже на жидком азоте, отбирая тепло у внешнего пространства.
Thank you, sir, for posting your video.
I hope you were able to solve the problem to getting the voltage to the target strength, and will be looking through your channel with great interest to find out about it.
Highly recommend thermal paste between the aluminum mount and the thermal chip and not just between the thermal chip and the heat sink.
I guess that was the main problem - both surfaces of the peltier element must have good thermal contact.
나도 옜날 해본 일..
저거 사실상 거의 안된다고 보는게 좋은..
냉각을 위해 쓰는 전기보다, 충전 전력이 더 안나오는..
I know that it is probably too late to give input for your project, but I'll try anyways. Make it even more complicated using a stirling engine lower down on the stove to provide air movement and turn the heatsinks 90 degrees to use the stirling engine's fan vertical exhaust for the cooling. The computer fans you have mounted are 12v monsters and do not help much for the power they draw. The stirling engine will use the heat of the stove passively and not put a load on the power system. Unfortunately, it may require separating the peltier units from being vertically stacked for optimal heatsink cooling and placing them at the same level will mean you need 2 stirling engines. Those engines are mostly used for powering campstove fans in cabins, so not much work will likely be needed to fit them in to your project.
You need a heat shield between the body of the stove and the cooling fins for better efficiency.
Brilliant ... your skill is professional level ! thank you for sharing
Hi I had conducted a similar experiment many years ago with the first cells of Peltier and had had the same problem, in that case I used to cool a refrigerator but the physical principle is the same.
Along the two sides ceramic you don't have to create thermal bridges that can heat the "cold" side.
The system can be improved using a pressure cooker with a 1 cm thick bottom to work as a cold tank, you can use the steam output tube to pump cold water in the pot and with an additional tube withdraw hot water considering that hot water goes Always upwards the cold tube must send water directly to the bottom where you put the cells. I would put 4, 2 in series, 2 in parallel.
An alternative can instead be to position the cells on a thicker floor not connected to the exhaust fumes but on the rear panel of the stove so as to keep the heat away and use a steel heat exchanger, of those that are installed On normal gas boilers.
Given the efficiency of Peltier cells in their traditional operation I would use a Stirling generator for this application.
Non ti arrendere, sei molto preciso e certamente riuscirai👍👍👍👍👍
Guarda il video del prodotto di miglioramento che utilizza il metodo di raffreddamento ad acqua. Grazie.
Nice project try to use 4 or more Peltier module and rotate the heat sink 90° so hot air can rise above.
멋진 아이디어와 프로젝트네요!! 저도 아이들과 우드스토브 만들기 프로젝트를 시작해봐야 겠습다^^
one little thing to maybe help boost the input, not fully, is to spin that 90 degrees behind the stove. heat is rising from the stove onto the cooling side a bit.
SUPER IDEA . POZDRAWIAM . POLSKA .
공냉이 아니라 수냉식으로 바꾸셔서 보일러와 충전기를 함께 사용하시면 좋을것 같슴다ㅎㅎ
짐이 물론....
Habe mir das gleich für mein Raketenofen gebaut , bloß mit mehr Elementen. Viel Erfolg noch 😁👌
Hallo Benno,
wieviel Ampere lassen sich bei deiner Bauweise mit mehreren Elementen rausholen?
good idea maybe improved with a duct insulated from the outside of the tent. greetings from Argentina
Woo thats is expensive project. May it great when winter
Great work and like your continuous improvement
Thanks!
One limiting factor that you may be experiencing is the mounting screws may be transferring heat from base to the heat sink. I will have to think about this. I taught PC Hardware design at university. More later after skull sweat. Stay safe and keep designing. Peace brother.
Bolts.... Oh never thought it is transferring heat....😅
Look at video “how it works...”
www.bioliteenergy.com/products/campstove-2
Their heat probe, hot side is much smaller than surface area you used. Their Thermal Electric Generator (TEG) is displayed as a grid of 16 (4x4) squares. They may be achieving their voltage by wiring multiple pads in parallel and series. Step back and experiment with a single Peltier junction, then two in parallel the way you wired the pair. Also, stack two with thermal grease connecting hot to cool side. Your experiments could be done on your stove or over a small alcohol lamp. I believe you are on the right track, just a bit more small scale experimentation prior to your second attempt on stove chimney.
Peace brother, I admire you tenacity and quest for empirical knowledge. Stay safe, surrounded by family.
That is just perfect... I lost my words..
캠핑투게더 That’s the value of showing your videos to others. We all see different elements. We all share our knowledge and experience, we all grow and benefit. Peace brother.
I love it bro. I would love a community like that .hunters and gathering mad max sh## .you rock bro..can't wait to bug out .woooooooo
dont use the aluminium base, its disipating heat before producing electricity. u have a new suscriber
팔리고 있는 제품은 화실에서 열을 공급받는 형태이더라구요.
많은 열을 공급하고 많은 열을 식힐 수 있는 구조가 되어야 그나마 쓸 수 있는 정도가 되는 것 같던데..
저 처럼 머리로 설계만 하는 것 보다 일단 지르고 보는게 중요하지만요 ㅋㅋ
꼭 성공하시길..
요거 뭔가 아쉬워서 수냉식으로 해보니 좀 낫더라구요^^ 감사합니다
Great work! Keep it up! Now for those module you will want to use a boost converter or a sepic converter. They don't produce as high of a voltage then what they are rated for and also you can buy high temperature one that are rated for more power and 300c but they are expensive one. I made 2 of these as well using repurposed old one. They work to light up an LED but nothing fancy for charging they need a lot of heat. Cheers!
Thanks! I will try different way maybe one or two more shots.:D
@@campingtogether if you need help let me know!
외국인 댓글 왤케많아ㅋㅋ또 읽어보면 다 전기 능력자 같은데ㅋㅋㅋ댓글들 보니 불가능한 영역은 아닌것같네요! 좀더 컴팩트하게 만들면 제품화도 노려볼수가 있을것같아요! 한국 테크계 유투버 화이팅ㅋㅋㅋ
Electric fans also consume electricity. You should try to measure the power generation to see if the power generation is higher than the power consumption.
Ya without a decent Temperature difference the power would not be much so I think the fans are probably a net benefit
Попробуйте тягу в печь трубой через радиатор охлаждения пропустить, не будете энергию тратить на вентилятор. С вентилятором нет накопления, много тратит.
Спасибо за комментарии.
다양한 시도가 보기에 좋네요. 5년전에 열전소자를 팰릿 자동 공급용 전원으로 시도해봤는데 700도 이상 발열하는 본체로도 5V조차 안정적으로 유지하기 어려워 포기한 적이 있습니다. 열전소자의 내열 내구성도 신뢰하기 어려웠는데 그 사이 더 개선된 고온용 소재가 나오지 않았다면 쉽지 않을듯 합니다.
감사합니다. 최대 300도용 고온소자를 사용했는데 생각보다 전압이 너무 낮네요.. 개선된 소재가 있는데 좀 더 찾아봐야겠습니다.
오호 발전기였다니 제 상상 그 이상을 생각하시는군요
생각하시는 이상의 성공이 계실거 같습니다.
곳 엄청 멋진 물건이 만들어 지겠네요
한 번 만들어 보고 싶었는데 쉽지는 않네요 ^^, 외국분들이 댓글로 링크를 주셨는데요, 이걸 실용화한 제품도 있네요. 앗 ㅎㅎㅎ 일단 충전 되도록 뭔가 더 해봐야겠습니다.
Severel years ago I've did similair progect ,while electricity was off.
It was interesting to see , how the 1W LED become more bright , while snow added to the cooling water.
Also I can say , that Indigirka stove produce 60 W of electric power .
물끓여서 터빈돌려 전기 만드는게 더 쉬울듯합니다... 돈안들고. 스텐물병 밀봉되는거 구해서 증기로 프로팰러 돌려서 발전기 돌리면 될듯 합니다.. 모터 개조하면 발전기 되니뭐.. 비용도 얼마 안들고 좋죠. 전에 만들어 봣는데.. 그땐 모터를 작은거로해서 그런지 출력양이 얼마 안되던데.. 한번 해보세요.. 재미는 잇어요
Cool. Charge the battery to run the fan to cool the system enough to charge the battery
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 좀있음 충전하겠다고 남편이 아주 재밌게 보더라구요 “ 오~ 오~ 오~ 재밌다~~ 오~ 오~ “ 하면서 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 저는 봐두 모르지만요 😎 화이팅 입니다!!!
댓글로 남편분의 리액션이 그대로 전해지는 것 같네요..ㅎㅎ 이게 충전이 딱 됐어야 그림이 완성되는데 너무 아쉽네요..^^ ㅋㅋㅋ 한 두 번 더 시도 해보고 안되면 놓아줘야겠어요.. ㅎㅎ
캠핑투게더 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그림완성은 아쉽지만 화이팅!!!!! 너무너무 재밌다고 합니다 👏👏👏 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 저는 보면서 대체 모가 재밌는지 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ🙄 존경합니다 ㅋㅋ
Fit a turbine generator inside the chimney for optimum performance . Smokes is lighter when hot so it will go up hence Power !
You can use just a tall tower full of water instead of the cpu heat sinks. Stick a little water faucet in the side of a tall aluminum tower, and now you have hot tea water. The slow dissipation of the water, due to not boiling at a high temperature because of the long tower and water fill .. 1.5liters.. makes it run for well over a day without watching it at all. No moving parts. Then you can get into your wiring for clean power to charge with and stop charging with.
If you dont believe me.. go look at the Ipower tower at tecteg dot com. Further.. you can use them around stove pipes and ambient water line heat for flooring as well. They are installing them into Pizza ovens now.. to produce multiple killowats as well. The newest seebeck modules can take up to 600c with perfect efficiency, and 20 year warranty.
I also made a unit you can slide down into the vacuum solar tube cookers. You can do alot with these. People dont realize full potential of them, nor do they attempt as you have. Well done.
A huge cooler on the cold side that must work orizontally .
On the hot side poor alluminium mostly in contact with air than with stove .
May be You should do a radiator that go inside the the stove pipe to extract the eat .
В советское время была подобная штучка, одевались на летучих мышь, керосиновая осветительная лампа. Технология та же самая только охлаждения без вентиляторов и работало стабильно питало лампочку и радио
Ага, я освещали квартиру махами летучих мышей, приходилось даже убивать лишних, свет глаза резал!!!
Good video production.
펠티에소자를 늘리거나 승압을 해주거나 선풍기를 이용해 온도차를 만드는건 배보다 배꼽인 상황이죠
비슷한 실험을 진행해봤는데 제 경험이 혹시나 참고가 되실까 하여...
저 구조를 손대지 않으신다는 가정이시라면, HY410 써멀구리스는 보급형이라 성능이 낮습니다. 열전도도 1.4W/mK 일텐데 고급형인 MX-4 제품만 쓰셔도 8.5W/mK 정도로 훨씬 성능이 좋습니다. 또한 금속이 써멀구리스보다 당연히 열전도도가 높습니다. 다만 금속면과 면이 닿게 되면 실질적으로 열 전달면적이 낮기 때문에 그 틈새를 메우고자 써멀구리스를 쓴다는건 아실겁니다. 고로 써멀구리스가 많이 남아있으면 오히려 열전달이 제대로 이뤄지지 않기에 압착하여 꽉 붙이셔야 합니다. 안에 써멀구리스가 흘러나올 정도로요.
그리고 경험상 열전소자를 이용한 발전은 냉각부가 얼마나 냉각이 잘 되느냐에 따라 성능이 좌우됩니다. 그래서 히팅쪽보단 냉각쪽에 신경을 쓰셔야 합니다. 그런 이유로 각이 나올지는 모르겠으나 발전시스템을 난로 하단에 놓는건 어떨까 합니다.
스마트폰 충전 정도는 충분히 가능성 있어 보입니다. 제 경험으로 시행착오를 조금이나마 줄이셨다면 좋겠습니다.
정말 큰 도움이 되었습니다. 현상태로는 난로 하단부에 공간이 협소하네요. 공간 확보하고 몇가지 더 시도해 보겠습니다. ^^ 냉각의 중요성을 실감합니다. 감사합니다.
근본적으로는 외부 찬공기로 연소와 냉각을 시켜주는게 좋은것 아닌지....
🇯🇵いいですね👍
これなら環境 汚染 の 心配もないですね
キャンプだけではなく
災害時にも活躍してくれそうですね
いつも 参考になります
ありがとう。😊
It's not easy for me to make it a reality, but it would be easier if an expert did it. Thank you. Stay safe.
cool idea but extremely inefficent peltier modules are not made to make power, at least is not like the fake videos who pretend to charge a phone with a candle using a peltier module lol. powering the fans is already too much for the power made by theese modules
Надёжно, как и всё китайское. 😇😇😇
Amazing construction and research! Try connect thermoelectric element to the bottom of a pot as done in Powerpot. So you will use water to cool down the element effectively and cook rice simultaneously.
Looks like a awsome little wood stove.
오늘도 대단하게 호기심을 일으키는 동영상이네요 잘보고갑니다
This is not cost effecient to use or market .
Is very good attempt though .
Would be more efficient to either use steam pressure or to use mercury cycle .
Thanks for sharing .
Thanks!
퀄리티가 대단한데요~ 아래 난로 본체에서 올라오는 열기가 방열판에 닿아
효율이 좀 떨어질 수 있으니 기기의 아랫부분에 열차단판을 달아서 올라오는 열기를
막아주면 온도차를 좀 더 멀어지게 할 수 있을 듯 하여 효율이 좀 더 좋아지지 않을까
하는 생각이 듭니다. 만시는 것들이 다 멋집니다~ ㅎㅎㅎ
Gostei da Experiencia! Eu também gosto de fazer coisas que não existem! No momento estou fazendo um veiculo elétrico com dois motores autônomo, chamado de biga, movido a energia solar, eólica e com regeneração dos motores para carregarem as baterias! Um detalhe, as baterias são recicladas de notebook!
Eu apoio o sucesso e a diversão do seu projeto.
Aluminium reflects Infrared radiation very well, so maybe paint the inside of the extruded aluminium profile black to catch that radiation and turn it to heat.
Vera e pura opera ingegneristicha bravo👍👍
Grazie! Questo è molto divertente.
I like the idea. What about add more option about create a fan at the end of the tube where is can turn the wheel of motor to create energy?
Yeah that is a good idea. But I found that there is a Stirling engine and I understand that it is more suitable. I wonder what it would be like to have a steamjet powered by strong steam, just for fun.
3.5 2개로 효율이 반인거네요. 역시 염려대로 차이온도 부족인듯... 구리판을 이용해 화목 불꽃열 최대한 가깝게 흡수하고 생산 전기로 냉각도 하고 폰 충전도 해야하니 팬크기 줄이고 냉각핀 크기는 줄이고 효률은 올려서 집중성 높이면 어떨지 .. 사용하신 냉각 타워는 외부형태로 보아 아마 수냉식 타입인듯한데.. 공냉식으로 활용하니 오히려 효률이 떨어 질듯 합니다. 그렇다고 물을 순환시키기엔 펌프와 대형팬 둘다 돌려야 되니 전력 소모가 엄청 늘어 날것 같고.. 그냥 공냉식을 간단히 해서 효율성을 올려보시죠. 기판에 정전압 회로 내장 안되어 있으면 하나 추가 하시고....잘되면 저를포함하여 이거 따라 만들분 많겠는데요.
냉각면도 열이 계속 올라가는 것 같아요. 저전압 팬을 사서 컨버터 없이 연결하면 서큘레이터는 될 것 같은데 충전은 쉽지 않네요...쿨러는 공랭식이 맞습니다. 6관 쿨러입니다. 컨버터는 5V 2A 감압 정전압 컨버터 입니다. 동작하려면 최소 4.5볼트는 나와야 하는데 3.5밖에 안되니 작동을 안하네요..^^ 좀 더 시도 해봐야 겠습니다.
스털링 기관 쓰는게 젤 빠를걸요 괜히 전기로 바꿔봐야 효율 극악이라 힘들어요.. Stirling engine stove fan 쳐보면 여럿 나옴
네 감사합니다. 스털링도 참고 하겠습니다🤗
정말 재미나네요! 한달동안 같혀있는데 선생님 동영상보는게 낛
선생님 현지 사정 어떻습니까? 지내시는데 많이 불편하시겠어요..
@@campingtogether 여기는 3월 14일부터 전 도시가 Lockdown에 들어갔어요.. 그리고 저번주에 2주더 연장을 해서 4월 말까지.... 식량이나 기타는 문제가 없는데, 집에서 못나오게 하니 개는 오줌을 아무데나 싸고, 와이프는 찡얼 거리고.... 현지 직원들은 계속해서 돈 달라고 하고.... 차라리 별장에 가서 있었을 걸 합니다. 그 와중 아버지는 운동(저랑 100미터 거리에 사심) 운동하신다고 나가셨다가 파출소에 끌려가서...ㅎㅎㅎㅎ Bailout(벌금내고 출소)....... 한국은 그나마 나갈수 있지만 선택해서 나가지 않는 것과, 여기는 강지로 못나오게 하는게 다른 것 같아요. 오늘 자세히 Medical Journal을 보니 Ace 2 Enzyme Blocker 역활을 하는 것보면 걸랴서 진행이 되면 영구적으로 심장과 기타 장기에 손상이 가는 것 같아요... 하여간에 걸리면 안되요... 조심하시고...... 항상 즐겁게 보고 있습니다. 특히 열교환전력 발생기 최고였어요.... 시중에 팔던데 Wood Stove중에 USB차징해주는것.... 항상 건강하새요!
Cuttest Pomeranian Simba Friends 많이 불편하시겠지만 어쩔 수 없는 조치이니 만큼 잘 이겨내셔야겠네요. 항상 응원해주셔서 감사합니다. 조만간 영상에서 또 뵙겠습니다. 건강하십시오.
Is it me or does this guys grass looks like carpet. Everything is looks nice in that tent!
Thank you😊
겨울철에 쓰면 좋을것 같네요.
눈 뭉쳐다가 냉열판에 넣어두면 펜 돌릴 필요도 없겠어요.
To generate you need ice on one side heat on the other create a big Delta temp
님은 다 계획이 계셨군요. 아름다운 마무리 기대하고 함께 하겠습니다
Bin gespannt auf den nächsten Teil 👍
Hello, I managed to get 4 volts from 4 Peltiers and 4 heat sinks connected crosswise I used Peltiers SP18482714SA and insulated with asbestos yellow tape, such as in satellites the heating plate moreover it works on the principle of temperature difference, so the generator should be on top of the chimney outside the tent otherwise the warm air from the stove heats it up and loses efficiency.
능력자이십니다!....나중에 더좋은 결과있가를 기원합니다.
감사합니다. 좀 더 살펴보겠습니다.
Super cool build ,but 2 peltier dont get ennuf electricety for you ....to make something useful whe schould build something that has at least 10 peltier in it ....than whe have a real woodstove generator....
Cant wait that i can build one ,one of these cold winters...greetings
Imho, rotate the heatsinks(HS) 90deg and then layer them with 3 more fans, so fan/HS/fan/HS/fan. And put a shroud around the entire unit making a wind tunnel so you're not openly bleeding off the extra cooling.
Thanks for the comments. I judged that the air-cooled power generation module was too complex and not very efficient, so I transformed it into a water-cooled module and got better results. Please watch this video out.ua-cam.com/video/H0Qva6JxSD0/v-deo.html
Maybe build thermal generation device inside a kettle or in tank of water on side of wood burner.
Those are some serious heatsinks.
Thanks for this clear experiment - but voltage only is meaningless : how many Amps did you get ?
Also the fan might use more energy than what is produced - A low flow of water could be more efficient and cheaper to build
The chart giving the power vs temperature of the pelletier module is very hard to find ; usually the chart we can find gives the performance for cooling purposes
Anyway congratulations for this construction
Hi, Thanks for watching! Stay tuned. Another experiment on this coming soon.
4 штуки минимум братан надо. Охлаждение лучше водяное. Лучше воду качать насосом для аквариума чем вентилятором шуметь.