You need a mppt circuit between thermal modules and load. The best is to have a storage after mppt like li-ion or supercaps to supply peak power. Another consideration is to have a continuous cooling like radiator or a fan because you have to have a continuous heat flow to guarantee the delta temperature. For now I think is a good start. Compliments.
Wendell Wood Thanks for keep following. I am so glad that I could make this. It is all thanks to you and dear subscribers. You all cheer me and encourage me. ♥️😊
Wow! I'm just so impressed w/you & that stove. There's no end to the possibilities what you can do w/one of your stoves. Before I went into the medical field. I went to school for electronics in high school, my Dad made me bc are whole family worked @ A TV factory. And to help him in his electronics repair shop fixing Tv's, VCRs, & stereo equipment. It was free labor for him. I didn't really want to work for my Dad @ his shop. I was young & it didn't excite me. I just wanted to work @ the factory & volunteer w/the fire & rescue, it played $7.00 a call if you was @ the scene but you didn't have to do anything just show up & you still got paid. It was exciting & you never new what to expect on each call. I didn't know about those fire/ice generators for a long time, one side you put hot to, & the other side up put cold to & it generates power to charge your electronics. There so cool how they work. I love your design w/the stove. Mine is a large coffee can that I made & it's fueled by sticks, the little square generator is glued to the side w/wires & the connectors for whatever you want to charge. It works ok, but your setup looks a thousands times better & I know it's more effective then mine is. I just want to thank you for sharing your awesome work w/us (me). Sorry for that long message but I thought I needed to give kind of my back story on my electronics background. I do have a question: I would like to know why the water? And is there another reason why you put the drain pipe on it besides to drain the water out. Would the hot water be safe to like wash your pots & pans or your hands in it? Is the hot water toxic? I go by if it has 3 uses then I carry it, bc it's worth it's weight. If it only does one thing, then I'm going to leave that home & find something that can do multiple uses. ***Exp. A screw driver is good, but a multi tool is better.*** I hope you Understand what I'm saying. Sometimes I don't understand what I'm trying to say... lol... I was just curious. Thank you again. Be safe & God bless us all durning this dang COVID-19 virus, Chris from Missouri
Hi, Chiris. Thank you for sharing your story. The main reason for filling the water is that water helps to cool the thermoelectric element. The greater the temperature difference at both ends, the higher the power. So I thought it was effective to use water. And I thought it could be used to warm the surroundings using warm water. You need to drain the treated water and fill it with cold water to maintain power. So, I attached a drain first. I think I will need an intake tube now. It is not yet known how harmless the warmed water is chemically. It requires attention and research. Thank you. Stay safe. From the camper in South Korea.
@@campingtogether thank you & you stay safe also. We all need that right now. I hope you didn't think I was being harsh, bc I wasn't. I was just wondering. I didn't know you had to put cool water in regular. I do see your point on a fill value now. Have a great day or night, whatever the time difference is... lol... it's neat how these days we can talk all across the world just on a UA-cam video.... lol... just think what we'll going to be able to do in the future. Like beam me up Scotty. A play off of star trek. How fun that will be. Take care. Chris
This is amazing, this went from a nicely designed stove to a high tech stove. I love the design and engineering. Can't wait to see you attach the water pump to it.
@@campingtogether bro dont waste the energy from water pump just find a natural flow of water running free to ur cooling system just add a converter and power bank
Great job! I really like the design of the stove and generator. Sadly, the peltier modules are quite inefficient. Well, let's hope for new efficient modules that can create bigger power output. I still think that there is huge potential in thermoelectric generators. Your design looks really good. Would like to see more thermoelectric designs from you! Cheers // Thomas
Consider adding a small external tank and using an unpowered thermosiphon system to circulate the water. cool water goes in the bottom and hot flows out the top. No power or pump is required to circulate the water. Wood stoves have been used in this fashion to heat and circulate domestic hot water for many years. I grew up with one.
👍Water cooling is the right decision! When shooting my video about a thermoelectric generator, I heated up to 230 degrees Celsius. All temperature and voltage parameters can be viewed on my channel. 🔥 You did great! What temperature did you reach?🔥
@@campingtogether You did great! My respect! The manufacturer’s website has a maximum value of 300 C, but I have not reached that value. In my opinion, the best value is current and voltage with a temperature difference of 100-150 C. My teseling lasted 3 hours, the average value at the same time was 600 mAh 5 volts (after the stabilizer module)
Россия 🇷🇺 Урал 😁 12:11 мои поздравления👏 с воплощением одной из популярных шуток которые есть в России. Речь про: атомный (или ядерный 🤔) реактор в жилище с подключением к этому разных электропотребителей (освещение, отопление, разное на кухне, и что есть прочего).
Add some capacitors and you will be light years ahead of where you are now. You have done a very wonderful job at developing this technology using only two TEG's.
Comming soon.... M-Stove Project Part43 (nuclear powered stove) If someone left this guy on a remoteempty island with absolutley nothing on it with only a stone and a stick he would probably be able to send us an e-mail within a week, tops! Respect!
아이디어가 좋으시네요. 조금 수고럽긴 할텐데.. 좋은 방법이네요. 혹여 물이 끓으면 위험해 보이긴 하네요. 냉각수 순환까지 된다면 온수매트를 통해 열을 빼고 다시 통으로 돌아오면 완벽하겠네요. 근데 100도면 끓는 물 보단 갈덴 같은 물질이 좀 더 안전하겠네요. 넘 비싸서.. ㅎㅎ회수도 문제고.. 대단하세요.
구독자님들이 이런 저런 아이디어를 주셔서 상황에 맞게 조합을 해봤습니다. ^^ 끓지는 않겠지만 60~70도 까지는 열이 올라갈 것 같습니다. 이정도면 1인용 온수매트 순환 정도는 할 수있을 것 같기도 합니다. 아직 온수매트쪽은 경험이 없어서 공부해서 나중에 만들어 보려구요. 재미로 봐주시면 감사하겠습니다. ^^
A very good insulation between cold water and heater chamber and silver or copper extention blocks from heater to cold water chamber for peltier would bring best results.
@@campingtogether Thanks for encouraging...There should be gap between stove and cold water chamber and then cold water chamber with good insulation from top and extention heat medium blocks of silver or copper for peltier.. You are very good at making stove..👍
Hello! What a great advance, the temp exchange with water is very better than air. With an water inlet you can recycle the cooling fluid and make the generator run continuously. My sugestion: Try to develop an container for drained water that can dissipate temperature, to return the system again...
Camping together Hi Great job!!!! If you want to have more power, refrigerator and 60 psi air to run a drill on air pressure you can an do it. 1. You need a battery storage bank. Bigger arrays cheap. Get a piece of copper pipe 3 inches in diameter by 3 inches long. Hook up copper wire to it both sides. Seebeck effect. Hook the battery up in the right spot. Then connect the batteries to an aluminum car radiator a few feet away from the stove. And you got way more power. With more power you can do MORE things like do refrigeration instead of electricity on the thermal couple. Or run a water pump. With a water pump you can get 60 PSI compressor air to run a drill, grinder off compressor air. I will show you if you want. You got way more heat than your are using. BTU to power
I sent you some more information on the other video but I forgot to tell you about the Robert Murray Smith channel, where he shows things on windmill power generation and putting a capacitor before the load to eliminate resistance,
maybe u could let the inlet air go trough that cold chamber first and then enter your stove, then u dont need water. If this works... more peltiers? :O great videos man
The only good thing about thermoelectric elements is that they are small, but they are not very efficient, as your oven is, develope your stove first so it burns the woodgas, just look for "gasifier stove" if you don't know it already, easy to make with this container system as you use it, definitely worth a try. Gasifier systems produce strong drafts by the fire that sucks air in, your oven does it already and could be used aswell for a turbine system, but gasifiers do that more constant, you don't set the size of the fire through setting the drafts, aslong the gasifier is doing its job, the draft is there all the time. Also instead of placing the water tank beneath the oven, place it on top and make a steam machine and water cooker just by the way. Your oven is nice, don't get me wrong, but since it is a developing project, I think some criticism is helpful for you. Keep on bro 👍
Congratulations, you have achieved success with the water bath to provide cooling. If you use their stove during winter with snow packed around the base, your efficiency should increase. Good observation for inlet port as well. You solved two problems with this one solution. In addition to producing charging power, you have added a water heater for dining. Trusting that you and your family are safe from the dreaded Covid-19 virus. Wishing you continuing Peace, health and happiness. Cheers.
Thanks for your words! Doing this project is so fun! Even though each step is challenging for me, any result I ever got was interesting and helpful. Stay safe and strong! Thank you for support!♥️🙆🏻♂️🇰🇷
캠핑투게더 one day you need to publish a book of plans. A chronicle of your creative genius. Show the evolution of products, what worked and what failed. You are a terrific engineer and have a wealth of knowledge to share with younger generations. Wishing you a peaceful day and a safe journey through life. Peace brother.
Hi, I see that you can make it better, while avoiding overheating.That is my opinion only. I ordered GStove, so I deep in expanding it's usage like chimney soup cooking (while main plate use for roasting)and thermoelectricity- peltier. 1- peltiers are connected continuously, not parallely. 2-air cooling is the must for handheld devices, don't need that big PC cooler,that 1 piece aluminum is enough.Fan is better, but for auxiliary battery.Avoid attach it over the main plate, because it can not be cooled down by cool air, better is at stove's side or chimney outside. 3-For smartphone charging , use module boost dc-dc 0,9-5v USB is the most.
I like this project, i have an idea that can helps you to develope this project. You notified that the water heated up over time due to radiant heat from the stove, so you can try to make an radiator with a coil and make it outside for an cool air and a mini 5v water pump to make circulate from the container to coil in a loop and that can make the water cool all the time. Ps : the mini 5v water pump can powered directly from the converter you made and i consumpt just 0.6 amps × 5 volts = 3 watt 🥰 Good luck from Morocco
L'eau est inutile car l'air ambiant est inférieur à 37°... L'air chaud monte et l'air froid descend... Inutile de fermer le système dans une boîte, mais très bonne idée sous le poêle...
i'm trying to figure a teg out. you put it under the stove. what's interesting is a module manufacturer makes a stovetop unit that sits right on the top of hot stove. works immediately. Going to all that work....use 4 teg's? 2 series, 2 parrallel.
I don't think using that silicone is a good idea, as you might well now, the TEC/TEG needs a high-temperature differential in order to generate more V and consequently more power. By adding the silicone (though low thermal conductivity) you are adding an extra "bridge" (parallel resistance always decreases overall resistance) for the heat to go from hot side to cold side (even if silicone is low thermal conductivity, air's is even lower). As general advice, work the most on ensuring the best thermal contact between the heat source and hot side of the TEG (thermal paste & pressure) do the same for the cold side and make sure to not thermally shortcut the TEGs
you don't use disolinated water? what if i had a larger battery and inverter? that paste you put on between the cell and the generator is that called thermite paste? would it be possible to use the heated water flow to cool water flow to heat a small horse tr-off that was converted into a makeshift hot-tub? plus all of yr heat that can produce team and increase the thermal output is mostly on-top of the unit, wouldn't you get more output if yr thermoelectric generator was closer to the hottest part of the unit? or is that too much output to input fore this de-zine?...
Watching this progression is great. You seem to find new ways of making me want on of your stoves. The first model was cool but now we are at the super awesome amazing model. Really is a great idea throw wood on charge up the laptop in the middle of nowhere. Can’t wait for your next idea. I don’t know about everyone but I enjoy when people leave in problems like holes not lining up. I’ve did that one a bunch. Never thought about making the plate into giant washers like you did. But little things like that. One last thing the coolant water is that still ok after use or does it get contaminated (different metals or sealant toxins) just curious. Thanks for the wonderful videos an stay safe
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it! The sealant was like mud. Not elastic one. So when I open the water basket rid after the use of stove, I found the sealant became muddy again. So need to find different one but I am not sure I can find one! 😊
Отличная работа ! Но поспешу опечалить при нагреве жидкости до определенной температкры эффект Зебека перестает работать ! Чтобы продлить зарядки нужно постоянное охлаждение !
Автору не хватило 3го элемента и второго преобразователя в параллель. Иначе преобразователь может сгореть по входу от 3х элементов. Он как раз мог бы заряжать повербанк для накопления, а первый может питать текущую электронику во время горения. От 3х элементов этого достаточно было бы.
If that is used to power a fan to blow into the stove, it would reach higher temps, stoking the fire which would make more electricity, wouldn’t having the thermo above the stove capture more heat?
I think it is important not to simply need high temperature, but to make the temperature difference between both ends of the device large. It requires a certain level of heating and extreme cooling.
I wonder how much more energy could be produced if you used ice water? Have you looked into a gamma type Stirling engine? Hook those up to a dynamo and you'll get electricity. :)
핵심 기술인 온도편차를 올리기위해 저탕식 냉각기를 다셨네요. 자주 물 교환해야 되는것 보니 끓는 물에서는 발전이 낮은듯... 즉 최대 온도 300도 당연 될거고 물이 100도면 편차 200도 인데 ... 온도차가 부족 하나보네요. 실내공기 온도가 25도 정도라보면 공냉식도 괞찮을듯.. 냉각수용 구리튜브도 있으니 속에 물이나 오일 같은것 넣은후 팬으로 알미늄핀을 냉각하는 공냉식으로 하시면 어떨지... 야외에서 실제로 물을 계속 공급 한다는건 구조체가 점점 커지고 물두 많이 보유해야하고 특히 구리,알미늄 ,써멀구리스, 등이 녹아 나올 가능성 있는 물을 먹거나 세면용등으로 사용 하는것도 좋은 생각은 아닌듯..
체적대비 질량이 큰 물이 공기보다 열 흡수 효율이 훨씬 나은 것 같습니다. 공랭식을 하려니 말씀하신 것 처럼 팬을 구동해야 하고, 그럴려면 생산된 전력이 바로 소비 되어 버려 남는게 없을 것 같더라구요. 그래서 일단은 이 방식으로 만들어 보게 되었습니다. 좀 더 생각해 보겠습니다🤗
You need a mppt circuit between thermal modules and load. The best is to have a storage after mppt like li-ion or supercaps to supply peak power. Another consideration is to have a continuous cooling like radiator or a fan because you have to have a continuous heat flow to guarantee the delta temperature. For now I think is a good start. Compliments.
Knew you could get it to work! A wood stove that can heat, cook and charge your phone, outstanding!
Wendell Wood Thanks for keep following. I am so glad that I could make this. It is all thanks to you and dear subscribers. You all cheer me and encourage me. ♥️😊
Hello my friend, it's getting better and better, it's finally central heating! you can install manifolds and thus distribute hot water for radiators.
👍is incredibly wonderful way to charge your cell phone for free. thanks again. Greetings Hassan
Thanks Hassan! Glad to see your comment!
This is amazing great job. I live in a small apartment and want to make one of these for myself. You are brilliant and very inspiring.
Wow! I'm just so impressed w/you & that stove. There's no end to the possibilities what you can do w/one of your stoves.
Before I went into the medical field. I went to school for electronics in high school, my Dad made me bc are whole family worked @ A TV factory. And to help him in his electronics repair shop fixing Tv's, VCRs, & stereo equipment. It was free labor for him.
I didn't really want to work for my Dad @ his shop. I was young & it didn't excite me. I just wanted to work @ the factory & volunteer w/the fire & rescue, it played $7.00 a call if you was @ the scene but you didn't have to do anything just show up & you still got paid. It was exciting & you never new what to expect on each call.
I didn't know about those fire/ice generators for a long time, one side you put hot to, & the other side up put cold to & it generates power to charge your electronics. There so cool how they work.
I love your design w/the stove. Mine is a large coffee can that I made & it's fueled by sticks, the little square generator is glued to the side w/wires & the connectors for whatever you want to charge. It works ok, but your setup looks a thousands times better & I know it's more effective then mine is.
I just want to thank you for sharing your awesome work w/us (me). Sorry for that long message but I thought I needed to give kind of my back story on my electronics background.
I do have a question: I would like to know why the water? And is there another reason why you put the drain pipe on it besides to drain the water out. Would the hot water be safe to like wash your pots & pans or your hands in it? Is the hot water toxic?
I go by if it has 3 uses then I carry it, bc it's worth it's weight. If it only does one thing, then I'm going to leave that home & find something that can do multiple uses. ***Exp. A screw driver is good, but a multi tool is better.*** I hope you Understand what I'm saying. Sometimes I don't understand what I'm trying to say... lol... I was just curious.
Thank you again. Be safe & God bless us all durning this dang COVID-19 virus,
Chris from Missouri
Hi, Chiris. Thank you for sharing your story.
The main reason for filling the water is that water helps to cool the thermoelectric element. The greater the temperature difference at both ends, the higher the power. So I thought it was effective to use water. And I thought it could be used to warm the surroundings using warm water. You need to drain the treated water and fill it with cold water to maintain power. So, I attached a drain first. I think I will need an intake tube now. It is not yet known how harmless the warmed water is chemically. It requires attention and research. Thank you. Stay safe.
From the camper in South Korea.
@@campingtogether thank you & you stay safe also. We all need that right now. I hope you didn't think I was being harsh, bc I wasn't. I was just wondering. I didn't know you had to put cool water in regular. I do see your point on a fill value now.
Have a great day or night, whatever the time difference is... lol... it's neat how these days we can talk all across the world just on a UA-cam video.... lol... just think what we'll going to be able to do in the future. Like beam me up Scotty. A play off of star trek. How fun that will be. Take care.
Chris
This is amazing, this went from a nicely designed stove to a high tech stove. I love the design and engineering. Can't wait to see you attach the water pump to it.
Should I attach water pump? Yes. Thank you so much! Stay safe!
@@campingtogether bro dont waste the energy from water pump just find a natural flow of water running free to ur cooling system just add a converter and power bank
@@bryanagustin5886 I can agree with this, but just add a funnel system he could drain from and probably flip the stove and have it below
Great job! I really like the design of the stove and generator. Sadly, the peltier modules are quite inefficient. Well, let's hope for new efficient modules that can create bigger power output. I still think that there is huge potential in thermoelectric generators. Your design looks really good. Would like to see more thermoelectric designs from you!
Cheers
// Thomas
That was just awesome. It blowed my mind. 👏🏽 the thermo electric thing is just phenomenon. Bravo
이건 제가 생각한것보다 더아이디어가 좋아보입니다. 가면 갈수록 다양한 모듈러 형태로 갖춰지고있네요.
감사합니다. 이번 것은 진짜 탈부착 가능한 모듈이 되었네요.. 제가봐도 신기합니다. 밧드가 너무 너무 이쁘네요;;
Consider adding a small external tank and using an unpowered thermosiphon system to circulate the water. cool water goes in the bottom and hot flows out the top. No power or pump is required to circulate the water. Wood stoves have been used in this fashion to heat and circulate domestic hot water for many years. I grew up with one.
From France : it's awesome !!! You are a very good engineer in the stove and BBQ . Best congratulation for your many invention
Thank you so much! This is just an experiment but I liked this so much.
I know that but you are very best stovemaker.
God job, keep up the work we may need you sooner than later.
👍Water cooling is the right decision! When shooting my video about a thermoelectric generator, I heated up to 230 degrees Celsius. All temperature and voltage parameters can be viewed on my channel. 🔥 You did great! What temperature did you reach?🔥
It cools way better than in the air. I guess the Temp. between 220~250 deg C.
@@campingtogether You did great! My respect! The manufacturer’s website has a maximum value of 300 C, but I have not reached that value. In my opinion, the best value is current and voltage with a temperature difference of 100-150 C. My teseling lasted 3 hours, the average value at the same time was 600 mAh 5 volts (after the stabilizer module)
That's amazing, I have been following since the beginning - it's great! Well done.
Thanks! Glad you like this.
그야말로 화력발전이네요, 진정한 금손이십니다. 뭐 하시는 분인지 궁금하네요 ㅋ
감사합니다. 화공기 제조업에 있다가 경영악화로 퇴사하고 현재는 미디어콘텐츠창작업을 주업으로 하고 있습니다.
Soon enough, that build is going to have legs and shoot lasers.
Possibly even mine cryptocurrency 😂😂😂😂😂
It has legs.
@@samimurtomaki5534 Great now we need laser.
Россия 🇷🇺 Урал 😁
12:11 мои поздравления👏 с воплощением одной из популярных шуток которые есть в России. Речь про: атомный (или ядерный 🤔) реактор в жилище с подключением к этому разных электропотребителей (освещение, отопление, разное на кухне, и что есть прочего).
very good idea ad couple more into the tank ...more power quicker
Simply Brilliant stove project !!
👍🏻🇺🇸
I wish we had smellovison for the cooking great work keep in up.
It's awesome work.I enjoyed all the videos.
ストーブでペルチェ素子を使った小型の発電装置は以前から幾つか販売されているので知って居ましたが自作も良いですﾈ。
ボイラーも良いです。そのストーブをいつかは作ってみたいです。
楽しい動画を有難う。
ありがとうございます。自作は楽しい趣味です。
Add some capacitors and you will be light years ahead of where you are now. You have done a very wonderful job at developing this technology using only two TEG's.
why the caps?
와 ㅋㅋㅋ 화목난로에 수냉쿨러 제작하는 분은 처음보네요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
진화는 계속 되는군요
멋지심니다
눈이 항상 호강하네요
시청해주셔서 감사합니다.
Great set of videos I’m inspired thank you 🙏🏽🏴
Thanks for watching! Let's keep going. Stay safe over there!
Comming soon.... M-Stove Project Part43 (nuclear powered stove)
If someone left this guy on a remoteempty island with absolutley nothing on it with only a stone and a stick he would probably be able to send us an e-mail within a week, tops!
Respect!
Very cool. I love your projects. Note: there is no silicone in Wurth Fire Cement 1000.
시판중인 온수 장판과 연결 하거나 온수장판을 직접 만드시는 그림이 그려집니다 ~ !
Can't wait till this is something you start selling online
축하드립니다!...^^ 성공을 거두셨군요...나날이 발전하는 모습이 보기좋습니다...^^다시한번 축하드리고 건강하고 행복한 날 되세요...^^
감사합니다. 이번 발전모듈이 잘 작동되어 너무 기쁩니다😌 건강하시고 행복하시길 바랍니다🙆🏻♂️♥️
아이디어가 좋으시네요. 조금 수고럽긴 할텐데.. 좋은 방법이네요. 혹여 물이 끓으면 위험해 보이긴 하네요. 냉각수 순환까지 된다면 온수매트를 통해 열을 빼고 다시 통으로 돌아오면 완벽하겠네요. 근데 100도면 끓는 물 보단 갈덴 같은 물질이 좀 더 안전하겠네요. 넘 비싸서.. ㅎㅎ회수도 문제고.. 대단하세요.
구독자님들이 이런 저런 아이디어를 주셔서 상황에 맞게 조합을 해봤습니다. ^^ 끓지는 않겠지만 60~70도 까지는 열이 올라갈 것 같습니다. 이정도면 1인용 온수매트 순환 정도는 할 수있을 것 같기도 합니다. 아직 온수매트쪽은 경험이 없어서 공부해서 나중에 만들어 보려구요. 재미로 봐주시면 감사하겠습니다. ^^
i agree a water inlet valve in a good idea an very necessary
A very good insulation between cold water and heater chamber and silver or copper extention blocks from heater to cold water chamber for peltier would bring best results.
I agree! Thanks for the idea!
@@campingtogether Thanks for encouraging...There should be gap between stove and cold water chamber and then cold water chamber with good insulation from top and extention heat medium blocks of silver or copper for peltier..
You are very good at making stove..👍
순환호스를 연결 하고, 발전된 전기로 펌프를 돌린다면 진정한 무한온돌도 가능하겠네요!!
재밌을 것 같아요^^
Hello! What a great advance, the temp exchange with water is very better than air. With an water inlet you can recycle the cooling fluid and make the generator run continuously. My sugestion: Try to develop an container for drained water that can dissipate temperature, to return the system again...
Hi Leonel. Thanks for watching and your comment. Great idea. I will keep researching for another one. Thanks Stay safe over there.
Good job.........
When your nearby water source like stream you can use continues cooling water by using ram pupm. Then have a release back to stream .
냉각수 밸브를 상하로 배치하고 온수매트배관을 연결하면 취침시 따뜻하게 잠을 잘수있고 리턴되어 돌아온 물은 식어서 냉각에 활용될것 같습니다
Camping together
Hi
Great job!!!!
If you want to have more power, refrigerator and 60 psi air to run a drill on air pressure you can an do it.
1. You need a battery storage bank.
Bigger arrays cheap.
Get a piece of copper pipe 3 inches in diameter by 3 inches long. Hook up copper wire to it both sides. Seebeck effect. Hook the battery up in the right spot. Then connect the batteries to an aluminum car radiator a few feet away from the stove. And you got way more power.
With more power you can do MORE things like do refrigeration instead of electricity on the thermal couple.
Or run a water pump.
With a water pump you can get 60 PSI compressor air to run a drill, grinder off compressor air.
I will show you if you want. You got way more heat than your are using. BTU to power
Very interesting ideas. I will research for doing that. :D
I sent you some more information on the other video but I forgot to tell you about the Robert Murray Smith channel, where he shows things on windmill power generation and putting a capacitor before the load to eliminate resistance,
maybe u could let the inlet air go trough that cold chamber first and then enter your stove, then u dont need water.
If this works... more peltiers? :O
great videos man
The only good thing about thermoelectric elements is that they are small, but they are not very efficient, as your oven is, develope your stove first so it burns the woodgas, just look for "gasifier stove" if you don't know it already, easy to make with this container system as you use it, definitely worth a try. Gasifier systems produce strong drafts by the fire that sucks air in, your oven does it already and could be used aswell for a turbine system, but gasifiers do that more constant, you don't set the size of the fire through setting the drafts, aslong the gasifier is doing its job, the draft is there all the time. Also instead of placing the water tank beneath the oven, place it on top and make a steam machine and water cooker just by the way.
Your oven is nice, don't get me wrong, but since it is a developing project, I think some criticism is helpful for you. Keep on bro 👍
Hi Wilson. Thanks for your comment! I got many ideas from you. I will make it real some of these in the future. Truly thanks. I like your pic.
Fantastico👍👍👍👍👍
Awesome 👍👍👍Thanks for sharing. Now put aluminum heatsinks on the outside of the water tank and it will keep the water cooler longer
Congratulations, you have achieved success with the water bath to provide cooling. If you use their stove during winter with snow packed around the base, your efficiency should increase. Good observation for inlet port as well. You solved two problems with this one solution. In addition to producing charging power, you have added a water heater for dining. Trusting that you and your family are safe from the dreaded Covid-19 virus. Wishing you continuing Peace, health and happiness. Cheers.
Thanks for your words! Doing this project is so fun! Even though each step is challenging for me, any result I ever got was interesting and helpful. Stay safe and strong! Thank you for support!♥️🙆🏻♂️🇰🇷
캠핑투게더 one day you need to publish a book of plans. A chronicle of your creative genius. Show the evolution of products, what worked and what failed. You are a terrific engineer and have a wealth of knowledge to share with younger generations. Wishing you a peaceful day and a safe journey through life. Peace brother.
Thank you for your support. I am trying to do things that I like and care about. Will these experiments help others? I hope.
Iron Surgeon 💪🙏🙋👏👍💯 Great ideals
Thanks Pamla. Big support!
Hi, I see that you can make it better, while avoiding overheating.That is my opinion only. I ordered GStove, so I deep in expanding it's usage like chimney soup cooking (while main plate use for roasting)and thermoelectricity- peltier.
1- peltiers are connected continuously, not parallely.
2-air cooling is the must for handheld devices, don't need that big PC cooler,that 1 piece aluminum is enough.Fan is better, but for auxiliary battery.Avoid attach it over the main plate, because it can not be cooled down by cool air, better is at stove's side or chimney outside.
3-For smartphone charging , use module boost dc-dc 0,9-5v USB is the most.
Thanks for the Idea!
I like this project, i have an idea that can helps you to develope this project.
You notified that the water heated up over time due to radiant heat from the stove, so you can try to make an radiator with a coil and make it outside for an cool air and a mini 5v water pump to make circulate from the container to coil in a loop and that can make the water cool all the time.
Ps : the mini 5v water pump can powered directly from the converter you made and i consumpt just 0.6 amps × 5 volts = 3 watt 🥰
Good luck from Morocco
Awesome idea. Stay safe.!
@@campingtogether ❤
와......와....진짜...황금손!! 화목난로 보다가 이게 뭔가 했는데.... 발전기...허허허
좋게 봐주셔서 감사합니다. 밧드 크기가 표준으로 나오다 보니 이런식을 활용하기 좋은 것 같습니다. 발전 성능을 떠나서 재미있네요..^^
Спасибо большое! 👍💪👌🇷🇺🤠👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
🔥♥️🙏🇰🇷
화목난로가 무한 발전하네요. 대단합니다.
Open the water valve and you can have hot tea.
Lol. Just for heating... :D Thanks!
Tudo e possivel! Na natureza tudo se aproveita, tudo se transforma, a água aquecida pode servir para tomar banho quente no acampamento!
Sim. Acessível. Sua ideia é boa. Obrigado.
급수관 하나 있어야겠다는 생각이 들었지만 바로 알아채시는 군요.
이걸로 겨울캠핑(집마당) 하시는 모습이 보고 싶습니다.
감사합니다. 집마당 캠핑이라면 가능 할 것도 같습니다. ^^
L'eau est inutile car l'air ambiant est inférieur à 37°...
L'air chaud monte et l'air froid descend...
Inutile de fermer le système dans une boîte, mais très bonne idée sous le poêle...
에너지 순환구조가 퍼져간다!
은수저군 점점 부피도 커져갑니다 😅
진짜 맥가이버가 손들고 가겠네요 ㅎㅎㅎ
대단하세요 ^^
좋게 봐주셔서 감사합니다. 반신반의 했는데 실제로 돼서 놀랬습니다. ^^
좀더 크게만들면 화력발전소온수매트보일러화목난로가 되는거네요.
Thank you 🙏
Thank you Kris!
Good idea
Thanks!
정말 대단하시네요 ㅎㅎㅎ 장인이신 듯
감사합니다 사라고고님~ ^^
Or use it as a small hit water tank. But to cool it you would need to recirculate the water through an external cooling block.
Awesome
i'm trying to figure a teg out. you put it under the stove. what's interesting is a module manufacturer makes a stovetop unit that sits right on the top of hot stove. works immediately. Going to all that work....use 4 teg's? 2 series, 2 parrallel.
What a great idea! What if you integrate a ram pump for continuous cooling?... But that could only work if you are camping near a stream.
Excelent vídeo THX👍
For when the 220v .... I want you in my team !!!! Excelente
Marcelo Oscar Olcese Thanks ♥️
라지에더와 워터펌프를 이용한 냉각 방식은 어떨까요? 아니면 연소통에 바람같은 풍력발전 방식도 재미 있을것 같습니다.ㅎㅎ...
물에다 자동차용 냉각수를 넣으면 물 교체 안해도 되지 않을까요?
Идея хорошая , но необходимо на системе охлаждения понизить температуру. Тогда будет более стабильная система.
와~~~~~!!! 정말 대단대단 입니다
과학자시군요!!!! 따라하고십은데 역부족일듯....ㅠㅠ
재미로 실험삼아 해봤습니다^^
Add ball valve pointed up to top of water container to ease filling
Yeah cool! I can use it as a water heater!
I don't think using that silicone is a good idea, as you might well now, the TEC/TEG needs a high-temperature differential in order to generate more V and consequently more power. By adding the silicone (though low thermal conductivity) you are adding an extra "bridge" (parallel resistance always decreases overall resistance) for the heat to go from hot side to cold side (even if silicone is low thermal conductivity, air's is even lower).
As general advice, work the most on ensuring the best thermal contact between the heat source and hot side of the TEG (thermal paste & pressure) do the same for the cold side and make sure to not thermally shortcut the TEGs
Thanks for your comment! When I try it a gain, I will do like you told me. 😊👍
I like to shrink heat-shrink tube with a lighter via swipe the fire under the tube quickly. It can then be shrinked nicely. For your consideration :-)
Hi Tony. Thanks for the comment. I just have gas torch only;;; Hope you understand what I mean... Stay safe!
ㄷㄷㄷ. 온수매트가 가능해지겠군요!!!
우째 맞추면 가능할 것 같습니다. ^^
TIP: You could use the fan along with a heat source taken from the burner to create central heating for your tent :)
Are you talking about a thermoelectric fan? Thank you.
@@campingtogether yes a thermoelectric fan on the stove, would that work?
you don't use disolinated water? what if i had a larger battery and inverter? that paste you put on between the cell and the generator is that called thermite paste? would it be possible to use the heated water flow to cool water flow to heat a small horse tr-off that was converted into a makeshift hot-tub? plus all of yr heat that can produce team and increase the thermal output is mostly on-top of the unit, wouldn't you get more output if yr thermoelectric generator was closer to the hottest part of the unit? or is that too much output to input fore this de-zine?...
나중에 설명에서 말하신거처럼 온수장판 연결해서 사용해보셔도 잼있을거같아요
엑셀관 연결하면 어쩌 될 것 같기는 합니다.. 이거 점점 감당이 안되겠는데요;; ^^
Watching this progression is great. You seem to find new ways of making me want on of your stoves. The first model was cool but now we are at the super awesome amazing model.
Really is a great idea throw wood on charge up the laptop in the middle of nowhere. Can’t wait for your next idea. I don’t know about everyone but I enjoy when people leave in problems like holes not lining up. I’ve did that one a bunch. Never thought about making the plate into giant washers like you did. But little things like that.
One last thing the coolant water is that still ok after use or does it get contaminated (different metals or sealant toxins) just curious.
Thanks for the wonderful videos an stay safe
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it! The sealant was like mud. Not elastic one. So when I open the water basket rid after the use of stove, I found the sealant became muddy again. So need to find different one but I am not sure I can find one! 😊
급수관위에 물통을 만들면 대류 현상으로 물이 돌지 않을 까요 ? 순환 하게끔
오 이거맞음 화목보일러 이케만들엇음
제 생각은 연전소자 쿨링을 위해 돌이 돌게끔하여 물통을 난로에 붙여서 가열하는게 아니라 높이 멀리 떨어지게해서 쿨러에 열때문에 데워진 물이 대류현상으로 올라가고 찬물일 내려오고 해서 쿨러에 물을 식힌다는 의견입니다
Nice
Thanks Gaucho
maybe you can circulated the water you are out side in the cold, you can take advantage of this and cold the water using the cold weather
Makarov Fox Yeah It will be more efficient in that condition!👍
열전소자보다는 수증기 터빈으로 발전 하는게 효율이 좋을 것 같네요.
잘보고 갑니다.
시청 감사합니다. ^^
존경합니다~~~
재미로 해보는 것입니다.^^ 감사합니다.
Try using a mineral oil for coolant or even vehicles anti freeze
와우 대단해요~^^
냉각수 주입구도 조만간 만드실거같은 느낌
만들면 일단 편할 것 같습니다. ^^
Отличная работа !
Но поспешу опечалить при нагреве жидкости до определенной температкры эффект Зебека перестает работать ! Чтобы продлить зарядки нужно постоянное охлаждение !
Спасибо. Я буду продолжать защищать и тестировать стабильность.
Süper
Автору не хватило 3го элемента и второго преобразователя в параллель. Иначе преобразователь может сгореть по входу от 3х элементов. Он как раз мог бы заряжать повербанк для накопления, а первый может питать текущую электронику во время горения. От 3х элементов этого достаточно было бы.
У него вода в "корыте" скоро горячая станет 🙂
Изоляции ж нет.
Короче, печка пригодилась для жарения мяса
Galvanic corrosion possible?
Oh, really? I will have to check. Thanks!
i think make some thermal insulation between the lid and container would a better chioce
Could it be a hot or warm water heater too! :)
물에 담궈진 구리와 알루미늄은 얼마나 버틸까요 다양한 시도 응원합니다.
수시로 확인을 해봐야겠습니다. 궁금증 전해주셔서 감사합니다. ^^
If that is used to power a fan to blow into the stove, it would reach higher temps, stoking the fire which would make more electricity, wouldn’t having the thermo above the stove capture more heat?
I think it is important not to simply need high temperature, but to make the temperature difference between both ends of the device large. It requires a certain level of heating and extreme cooling.
Do you have to circulate the cool water?
In winter, I plan to make a hot water mat by circulating water. It is unlikely that the water temperature will rise much in winter. I am not sure.
I wonder how much more energy could be produced if you used ice water?
Have you looked into a gamma type Stirling engine? Hook those up to a dynamo and you'll get electricity. :)
Stirling engine would be great to generate electricity. I will consider using it.
What is the thermoelectric name?
핵심 기술인 온도편차를 올리기위해 저탕식 냉각기를 다셨네요. 자주 물 교환해야 되는것 보니 끓는 물에서는 발전이 낮은듯... 즉 최대 온도 300도 당연 될거고 물이 100도면 편차 200도 인데 ... 온도차가 부족 하나보네요. 실내공기 온도가 25도 정도라보면 공냉식도 괞찮을듯.. 냉각수용 구리튜브도 있으니 속에 물이나 오일 같은것 넣은후 팬으로 알미늄핀을 냉각하는 공냉식으로 하시면 어떨지... 야외에서 실제로 물을 계속 공급 한다는건 구조체가 점점 커지고 물두 많이 보유해야하고 특히 구리,알미늄 ,써멀구리스, 등이 녹아 나올 가능성 있는 물을 먹거나 세면용등으로 사용 하는것도 좋은 생각은 아닌듯..
체적대비 질량이 큰 물이 공기보다 열 흡수 효율이 훨씬 나은 것 같습니다. 공랭식을 하려니 말씀하신 것 처럼 팬을 구동해야 하고, 그럴려면 생산된 전력이 바로 소비 되어 버려 남는게 없을 것 같더라구요. 그래서 일단은 이 방식으로 만들어 보게 되었습니다. 좀 더 생각해 보겠습니다🤗