people like you, who use their knowledge to better the wold for free with open source project are one of the few reason i have not lost all hope for humanity. thank you
@@andreihossu2749 i do not praise him for making the best most efficient desing, i praise him for doing it free, for the benefit of mankind. science if full of idea that have been paused and given more interest after. it's also full of idea beeing halted, but the motive for that stop is not always ineficiency, it can be lack of interest, death of the inventor, conflict with lobby,... in medecine phago therapy came up befor vaccines and yet it was left behind because it was not easy to mass produce, but now that antibiotics have been overused we see it as a new miracle while it is old tech. the electric car also came before the fuel one. even if it's not the best use of energy (because i agree it's not using the whole potential energy) it could be usefull some place also people have already pointed out that he should use a load to see the real power of his engine. he didn't say it was the best or that he was the messiah as you seem to think
@@andreihossu2749 yeah yeah you're not extracting the full potential energy with that kind of device, i can see that. but that might be enough for lights in a small house and it's easy and cheap to build. i'm sure in some place they would already be happy with this kind of powersource (plus i've never seen a motor working this way, it's interesting)
Thank you sir. I decided to move to rural South America to get away from civilization but after some major flooding I rejoined society, albeit in a different way. I started a "critical skills club" in rural Chile and invited many to come build many dozens of these based on your design, we ended up scaling them up in size and capacity, so 30 separate turbines became 12, and then 6, now the entire village has more power than we know what to do with and we are helping many others in the nearby region to do the same. Much love, you helped a lot of people. Damn solar is too expensive and too hard to make raw material wise, THIS is the perfect idea. With the power we were able to maintain palliative care services at a nursing home, you literally saved dozens of lives.
He's like Doctors Without Borders but the green energy division. You have inspired me sir. I have water behind my house and I'm thinking of 4 of these in a series would end my dependence on the grid.
Daniel congratulates you for your initiative. The world needs more people like you, who help by doing, showing how to do it and not charging for the teaching you give. God bless you. Jalmar from Brasil.
Someone give this man some funding , let him build a water tower and watch him light up a city. Great effort keep up the good work, the world needs more people thinking like you
Pumped storage requires ADDITIONAL energy to pump water to the storage location to release for hydroelectric power. The easiest way is to just go make a pond on a hill and plumb a pipe. You would have to harness wind or solar to operate your charge pumps. Im the end, these infrastructure solutions require mot just the technical knowledge but specific knowledge of the geology and biome of the place you are bringing services to so that these infrastructure projects can be maintained or upgraded and not become an additional problem.
Good to hear it’s about 50% efficiency. That’s pretty good considering the simple to make design using off the shelf parts that were not designed for super efficient hydro generation. I’d like to make one for camping.
Siphon type is highly inefficiënt. It can only achieve a vacuum at the low pressure part of the generator. Pressure difference over the pump will always be less than 1Bar. Mounting the pump at exit of the pipe will give extra energy. Certainly when height difference is more than say 10meters
@@fransmulder9326 I think it was done this way to make it easy to test in the area he was given. I liked the design because it gives me other options in some unseen future.
This is great work for humanity you open source people. What a great Vision it is, IF this technology gets adopted as well as optimized for people in remote rural communities. Great Humanitarian folks! you deserved all the love in the world.
I am fascinated by the way people are reinventing the hydropower systems. Most of this was done in the late 1700's for mechanical power and around the late 1800's for hydroelectricity. The major difference between then and now is really lower power levels. Now 500 Watt will provide a lot of light and communications. I strongly suggest finding a copy of a 19th century Water Power textbook. It should be very helpful.
Excellent . Cheers mate. Sending love and gratitude to you and your family. Many will have their quality of life increase . Many lives will be saved. Many inspired. Our children are the future and they are watching this! Amazing & beautiful.
Hi all. Been getting quite a few queries as to how the turbine is developing, which is good to see that there's a high level of interest in the project. I just shot the next update video yesterday, will edit and release that as soon as I relocate from Berlin back to Scotland later this week. In short, it works, produces a decent amount of power (full details in the next video), and I'll be doing longer term field tests and a full open source construction tutorial imminently.
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Thank you very much sir! I really like your work and appreciate every help you gave thanks a lot and I hope more people get interested in your project that you've been doing it is really innovative and helps the people and the environment. Keep up the good work and God Bless you❤😊
Nice system! I'm interested in trying something similar to power an RFID system. We previously built a high-head, low-flow system with the 5-gallon-bucket design, and later rebuilt it with a real Pelton wheel. I've got a few videos about our system on my channel. We moved to a site with a weir that might make a low-head generator like yours feasible, especially with needing something to engage two teenage boys out of school for at least the next month. I'm looking forward to your follow-up video!
So, first off, this is a fun little contraption that does indeed have real-world applications, so keep it up. This is the first time I've heard of this open source project, but I think I might like to get involved! Anyhoo, others have mentioned a few issues here and there, and things that need to be considered, and I'll just throw a few items in here as well (some of these may have already been mentioned in other comments): 1. Any air drawn into the siphon tube will want to find a place to collect. The longer your discharge tube, the greater the chance that some of the air will be trapped at the top elbow. A "band-aid" solution to this problem is just to add a large air-gap reservoir at the top where you've placed the cap. A long term solution would be to use a small take-off siphon line to develop vacuum in a smaller diameter pipe along with your main discharge. In this way, you could create an "eductor" (yay Bernoulli's principle!) which draw any air out of the reservoir, thus preserving the main siphon. 2. Your impeller is one of your major bottlenecks for producing max, continuous power. One solution might include a multi-stage impeller with stationary blading in between. This will maximize torque if you get it right. 3. Blade seals - I'm not sure how you would do this simply and cost-effectively, but the trick here is to prevent any flow from passing the impeller blades without imparting any force. Typically, a labyrinth seal is used for this, but I don't know if that's easily applied. Perhaps someone could come up with something via 3D printer. 4. Suction screen - you don't want to accidentally suck up large objects which could damage your impeller. You need to put a large screen at your suction - larger is better because you will want to compensate for partial blockage in the event something gets stuck on the screen. Simply having a section of your suction piping that has a zillion holes drilled into it, and a capped off end would work.
@@aicram62 I don't, although I've considered making vids like that. So far I only have videos about growing exotic peppers lol. I'd be happy to explain any part of what I said (or any other principle in this family of physics) if you have questions. Also, I'm 100% sure there are other people who have great explainers, too.
Governments could make available injection moulded turbine blades, perhaps in glass-reinforced polypropylene. Also, a blade design that could be reproduced locally with simple indexing lathes would allow villagers to make lots of blades and rotors. Really the blades could even be carved out of wood.
You are a awesome person, as are all ppl who were involved in this open source low tech turbine. Especially the cameraman, cameramen in generall deserve more praise. Definitely subbing your channel & looking forward to more ingenious stuff like this.
I am trying my best to find something to help the people in the rural areas in Papua New Guinea i need people like you bringing blessings to the poor people 🙏
Amazing stuff! I'm preparing to live off the grid and was looking for a cheap reliable water turbine to power some of my appliances. Thanks for sharing this awesome water turbine with the world
J1 & CHP it's been a learning experience good days and hard days but all and all I'm glad I've made the decision do this currently living out of a waxed canvas tent have most of my electronics and my led lighting running off solar and the more demanding things like a small fridge and a back up generator I keep charged off of the turbine found in this video, for anyone thinking about doing this I strongly suggest giving it a try its hard work but its very rewarding, you know the feeling after a long day at a 9-5? the exhaustion you feel after working on building your homestead knowing all your hard work benefits you and your loved ones it makes you feel good as you sit back and look over all you have done. considering starting a vlog series about my experience.
Thank you very much for your kind heart you giving chance for people to make their life better. A specially for people from my mountain country. Tajikistan, GBAO Khorog. Appreciate all of your diligence. Keep doing your excellent projects.
Fantastic job, guys. The turbine looks like the impeller of a centrifugal pump with shroud. So as you pointed out, you only need good flow for this turbine and not much of head.
wow esto es lo mejor que he visto en mucho tiempo buscando informacion. Muchisimas gracias, porfin podremos tener luz en el rancho. Intentaremos aplicarlo
Thanks for all the helpful comments. I'm currently in Berlin working on optimising the design, including ways to maximise the rpms and voltage, so as to be able to have less load for more power overall, and try to hone in on that hundreds of watts figure. I'll be publishing all the results in a future video soon. Any suggestions and recommendations for ways forward are certainly appreciated. And if you have any technical questions let me know.
Hey Man, I like this project and live in Berlin, I would like to help you to optimise this project, I have a master in Electronic Industrial Engineering Energymanagement.
The efficiency on this will be absolutely terrible I know I have tried it many times please show us the numbers of the wattage it is putting out that way everybody understands completely what is going on truthfully. I applaud you for trying to get power to third world countries at a reasonable price. But if you are not siphoning the water over a culvert the efficiency would be greatly improved.
@@SpencerLAPowerSpencer I agree, low head requires really really high flow but if this could power some lights for as cheap as it is it would be just fine. He could even run multiple in parallel.
@@JoeMalovich in most countries I've sold 2 over the years out of the United States most of them can't get or afford batteries so it has to run Direct to the lights or whatever they want to run . Just curious as to how much power it actually makes given the tremendous head that he has their looks like it's about 10 to 12 feet or more The on-demand power is very minimal but should be able to run a few LED lights. But over time it would charge a battery bank and they could power mini lights and appliances off of it as you know charge controllers and inverter cost money. I'm not trying to knock this guy I think he's doing a great thing to help people that can't afford it.
Muy bueno felicitaciones por el proyecto ! Siempre me interesó la energía renovables y todos estos campos es muy interesante saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷👏
i hope that the tutorial will come up soon i would like to learn from it and share it to the the remote area in the philippines where people dont have basic electricity this could be a big help.
thank you sir this could be a big help for those people in need once the design is finished ill be more than happy to do it and hoping i can get help from the government once i made some proposals thank you again sir and Godbless you!
@@OpenSourceLowTech Hi there. In the video that you show how the turbine is turning the motor through the pvc pipe at the channel, can you please tell me what kind of motor you used there. Thanks Leon
Really cool idea. I would like to see it tested under load, even a relatively crude setup like rigging up some light bulbs to it or something, to show that it's not just spinning away and would stop the moment any current is drawn. 5:02 "Will power like half a dozen homes in a developing country ... Italy!" Now that's savage.
@Rens Langendoen Listened to it again, maybe you're right. Besides, Italy wouldn't be the Developing Country - these days that's probably America, given that only the rich have healthcare and many don't have access to clean drinking water. (I'm an American, for context).
@Rens Langendoen Netherlands - relative to you almost everyone's a developing country! I think Italy's doing fairly well though, I had figured this was more a British jab at them - the Brits tend to make jokes like that, and this guy sounded possibly British to me. Though I think the Brits would be more likely to make a joke about some less-well-off portion of their own country in a case like that. Or America, we deserve it!
@@quillmaurer6563 I can go see a doctor tomorrow if I wanted to you just want FREE healthcare paid for by SOMEONE ELSE. America has pretty good drinking water compared to a lot of Europe. We have polluted a lot less due to us being around for less time. Except California. They are a mess thanks Leftists.
@@rujikin Flint has had undrinkable water for many years now and nothing has been done about it. I will agree that most of the rest of the country is pretty good though, and I'm thankful for that. Even with health insurance I've found seeing a doctor to be far more hassle than it is in many other countries as there is so much bureaucracy involved - the whole system is more concerned about getting paid than taking care of people. This is the experience of myself and of other people I know who have gotten medical care here and in foreign countries. Pretty unanimously they say seeing a doctor is far easier and more convenient - as well as cheaper - in pretty much any other country, even second- and third-world countries. I crashed a scooter in Nicaragua and had the village doctor clean me up, $5 for the whole visit including medication, zero wait time, no hassle, no worries of how it would be paid for, no waivers to sign, no medical history reports, no paperwork. Don't think they ever even asked for any form of ID. They just brought me in and cleaned me up. Granted the place didn't feel super sanitary (open windows and overall a bit dirty), and language barriers were an issue, but still I was very impressed, would take it over an American doctor any day.
Everyone's asking if a second impeller at the output of the tube would increase power. It wouldn't, as each impeller removes momentum from the water flow, and so slows every other impeller as well as reducing the maximum available power in the system. Having the output water pouring over a water wheel wouldn't have that effect as the water would then be in open air, but the wheel would take up vertical space which you'd get more power from by just having extra pipe. I'm currently in Berlin working on optimising and load testing the turbine design. Once I'm happy with it I'll be doing a full open source build tutorial, hopefully before summer.
not sure this is completely correct. after the first stage (first generator), the water is in free run/ free fall. you may need to adjust the design, but think of the water vortex turbine. that might work
Is that possible to make perpetual motion water out of that in a way that it will be installed in a huge elevated tank of water, the the passing water on that will be pump back to the same upper tank by couple of ram pumps which basically same water running to the second level tank. Water leak through the ram pumps will be sucked back using air pump system located higher than the main tank? Please see below systems. Combinations of all of that will generate continues flow of water and energy? ua-cam.com/video/kYx3M-A5_bE/v-deo.html&feature=share ua-cam.com/video/6koHqPM_zxg/v-deo.html&feature=share
Is it possible to install eight of these on 25 foot long x 8 foot tall fence post, (as a recharging system), the downspout water is captured into a retention tanks, then with an Archimedean screw, move that water uphill to an organic filter ( sand gravel charcoal ) before splitting into dual feeds for both compost heater( Biomeiler) & Rocket water heater system and Cold Water Tanks?
I am very impressed with your invention, I am a interested in making this system, because this I believe we will have to depend on systems like this, in the future.
It is interesting having the driven member at the top. However, it does not matter where the energy is extracted from the flow, because the total amount of energy depends on the volume of water and the distance it falls, no matter where the energy is extracted. Higher voltage means lower loss for transmission of the power but then the higher voltage must be reduced to the voltage that can be used by a particular user. Unless there are fairly high resistive losses in the transmission of the power, which is unlikely over short distances, it would be better to produce the power at a voltage that can be used directly. If the turbine needs to spin fast and only low torque is available then an alternator from a scooter may work well. The rectified output could be used to charge a 12 volt battery. This battery could then be used for 12 volt LED lighting. If 220 volts are needed then modern inverters are energy-efficient and available worldwide.
5Hi there, really do not want to be a small rain parade. My experience with all of this is fairly extensive by this point. Voltage is one of the considerations that tells us RPM. Current draw is the basis for the actual load applied...not just a voltage meter. If you put an actual 50 watt load on the system I believe your RPM would drop to 25% of the reading that you are getting now at possibly 12 to 14 volts which would need to supply a 4 amp output to be 50 watts. It is very deceptive until you completely understand the full process. Hopefully that is not a bummer for you and maybe I am all wet in my summary...just did not see a bulb or motor or something pulling off power other than a meter and that does not count in the real world...
@@OpenSourceLowTech I second the observation - there is no point in reporting zero load voltage and speculating a current/power availability based on generator specs. Put a simple 10 ohm power resistor across to provide a real world load and then measure the voltage. Make it quick though as (we hope) the resistor to get very hot, very quickly. Two other observations regarding your very interesting and innovative implementation though. 1) I would worry about maintaining a siphon for any reasonable length of time (days, weeks). Maybe the continuous flow rate will purge any bubbles forming at the top of the siphon so this is not a problem. Hope so. 2) Your observation that the current design with the impeller on top (terrific idea for maintenance etc.) not being dependent on the head as it 'is only dependent on the speed of the water, not the drop height' - I think this is going to be proven wrong. Once you have a load, the weight of the water in the pipe will support the torque on the turbine, meaning the actual power will be directly affected by the head. Good luck with your project though, I look forward to seeing some real numbers.
@@OpenSourceLowTech you should look into maple sap production and how they run 3/16 lines(as opposed to 5/6) and it actually creates more vacuum in the tubing(sap doesn't just run down the side of the pipe, it seals and pulls vacuum) . I'm wondering If you could see this effect in your device if your down pipe was a smaller diameter that the intake??
@@joshwooten3719 , with that much volume of water at the exit, he could use a much larger impeller and have ten time the torque where he can gear up for more RPM
@@lightrose100 that water means nothing though if there is any air in the tube which could cause cavitation/air pockets. With the impeller at the top, it is completely dependent on liquid vacuum of the water moving through. Ie. You could move the same volume of air through the pipe as water and it would barely spin at all. I'm not sayings that's the case but the sap stuff is at the very least an interesting read.
and you won't because if you did put a load on that thing it would stop. It's the same thing with everything like this it's just a whole lot of if's and but's. You know, IF we had this and BUT the pressure and so on and so on. This is why these things are always open source so that others can work out the flaws for them for free.
That still dosen't fix the fact that it will slow down when you put a load to it. The power available in a stream of water is; P=eta*rho*g*h*q where: P= power (J/s or watts) eta = turbine efficiency rho = density of water (kg/m³) g= acceleration of gravity (9.81 m/s²) h= head (m). For still water, this is the difference in height between the inlet and outlet surfaces. Moving water has an additional component added to account for the kinetic energy of the flow. The total head equals the pressure head plus velocity head. q= flow rate (m³/s) So with that we can simply calculate what head is the most efficient to use with the kind of flow available. • Water wheel 0.2 < H < 4 (H = head in m) • Screw turbine 1 < H < 10 • VLH turbine 1.5 < H < 4.5 • Kaplan turbine 2 < H < 70 • Francis turbine 10 < H < 300[10] • Pelton wheel 80 < H < 1600 • Turgo turbine 50 < H < 250 Oh it wasn't just as simple as putting a stream of water through some blades, who knew? Apparently anyone with some knowledge of the laws of nature....
@@BolinFoto I get what you are saying. But if I were to use this, I won't powering directly. I would send the power to a bank of Deep Cycle batteries, and then feed off of those.
@Charles A Townsend Charles, My thoughts on this would be to recycle the water. For example, dig a pond/reservoir, build a trestle to the desired height Setup the mechanism intake at one end, the outlet a little was toward the other end. The out flow should not reach the water level. So now you are using the same water over and over again without having to pump it back in. I was also thinking that a secondary power system can be used at the outflow area, this one with an offset/bladed turbine to a similar alternator, thereby doubling your energy output. All of this power should be sent to a bank of deep cycle batteries then, inverters before you use. Just my opinion.
YK Chan that’s because it’s virtue signaling that the world can run on this garbage. Nuclear is already here. Clean safe and can run everywhere for nearly no cost per watt hour.
Hello, Very good project I love it. Just one thing you are wrong (or i didn't understand correctly your explanations because i'm not english native). When you say your system doesnt use pressure for its power but more the speed of water. That is not true. To have power you need P. (Delta V / t) which is a common thermodynamic formula. So pressure and water flow are both important and necessary. And in function of those 2 potentials you will adapt your system (and you did). Your system works with negative pressures due to water fall. That's why you need to launch it at the beginning. The rotor is runned by this negative pressure with a pulling force. But with heights higher than 10 metters you gonna reach -1 bar (relative pression) which correspond to vacuum, so a natural limit. So yeah it becomes more optimised to put the turbine at the bottom of the waterfall with heights > 10 metters. Another thing, you speak about the cheap price. But you do not include electrical parts and knlowledge to convert this energy to a proper and stable electrical signal. Anyway still cool !! Did you get 500 watts ? 😁
I would like to see it running with a load taking 10 A; wonder if de generator can deliver it at 50 V. The tension will probably drop to 25 V if not regulated. And I wonder what the torque in that case will do with the plastic turbine. Keep up the good work.
We learn to use less so we need to make less electricty. Peopl spend 4 5 6 even 1000 dollars a month for electric I pay $0.00 to an eketric company but I use my cheap amount we get from solar and batteries cheap generator you can get 1000 watts loaded from 1.3 hp you can do it with an electric motor as well as gas
I like the idea of the siphon. Nice design. Do you find, with such a small, multi-blade impeller, do you have any problems with clogging due to debris in the water? Also, might your analysis regarding speed vs. torque demands differ when the generator is under load?
Seems the turbine is sitting in a section of pipe where there is little new water. You could always add a big mesh filter at the inlet pipe to minimise any debris entering
say my 5,500 watt aircompressor ore 3 x 3000 watt water heater would probably stall it, hehe but as an offgrid power supply loading a big battery and a converter12 to 110-220 volts you get more than enough power for say a washing maskine 1-2 time a day ore some powertools even the wourld largest hydropowerplant started as a small scale science projekt. but to perfect small scale powerplants, say a car factory could MASS PRODUSE STAINLESS STEEL TURBINS WITH GOOD SELF LUBRICATING BEARINGS! IT WOULD MAKE THEM CHEAPER IF THEY MADE SAY 1 MILLION OF THEM THAN IF THEY SAY MADE 1.
I love how the intended target of projects like this is "the developing world", yet we all know the only people going to be using this are off grid preppers in the US lol
Yes you're correct but there are people that are doing this in Colombia there are third world countries that do to this 1993 in the state of Oaxaca very poor area they were using hydrogen for lights so don't worry the people already know how to take care of themselves they don't care about what their government thinks in these places like this there is no law there.. Humanity can survive with their creator without other human intervention or a grid or government of some sort I think the thing you have to look at it when you say developing world you're talking about third world countries... but then again I think you're talking about the money aspect of what people would be getting from this this can all be done in your third world country doesn't matter where you're from Powers free I'm just going to let you know that right now.. only thing that makes the difference of us using these things that are free is your mind open up the realize that they've been there all this time for thousands of years we just haven't seen it that way... power is always been around for a long time energy has been around such as fuels there's like five different fuels you can make on your own right out of your house just from having animals manure of some sort doesn't matter as long as it has methane gas and you have a black tank or it can heat up keep moisture to it so you can keep it going... and then there's hydrogen Vapor which is the easiest to make and yes that can be made it free as well it might cost you something to use and get the parts you need but most of that stuff you can salvage from a junkyard or a dump it doesn't make a difference you can make a lot of the stuff right out of the stuff you throw away..example jars wires 2guage plumbing cap clamp screw on type brake soda..solar power ..
Is too loud for preppers in my opinion. I could see BF attacking the sound quality. Maybe it's quieter in person? Idk. From my cell...sounds like a weed wacker.
This really an impressive turbine. We also wants to use it at our fishing pond in Austria. There is no electricity but a lot of water. which diameter do the pipes have? 100 mm or 150 mm? Is the repeller really a pc fan? The generator is a hoverboard motor, is it AC or DC?
The pipes here are 110mm up to and including the impeller (which is an ATX computer power supply fan), and then immediately after increasing to 125mm. Just because these are standard PVC sizes which seem to work ok. The hoverboard wheel is putting out three phase AC, which will ultimately be rectified to DC for charging a battery.
Hi Tailss!! I am going to collaborate for a hydro project here in Italy. Is it possible to reach out to your friend? I might need some tips on how to do it properly. Thank you very much!! Alex
Great ! Could it be possible to imagine with intermittent energy (solar, wind) to put again the water up 2 meters, so it could deliver stable energy ? How much water could it be necessary to recycle to do so ?
Great video but those plastic blades won't hold up to 500watts once you put a load to it. I tried and it didn't work with 500 watt light as load. I ended up buying the blades. They look like spoons with a notch cut out of it.
Yes. This doesn't occur to most diy builders because it is not intrinsically intuitive. But once there is an electrical load on the generator, it creates current flow resistance that translates to electromagnetic "braking" of generator rotational speed. This braking action will snap off the plastic turbine blades as they try to turn against the increased resistance. Thanks for sharing your firsthand experience.
I tested that by shorting the three AC channels so as to create maximum load, which hammered to a stop the impeller and water flow, but didn't seem to do any damage to the blades. Which was of course just a momentary load, we'll see how it holds up over weeks and months. The impeller can be significantly reinforced tho by gluing a thin circle of pipe around the blade edges.
@@OpenSourceLowTech time is the most important thing on earth. DONT WASTE IT you cant get it back. Learn from other people's mistakes and let's not all keep repeating mistakes.thats what big oil wants is for us to keep going in circles
@@OpenSourceLowTech you could always try a metal impeller from an RC EDF electric deducted fan there cheap and strong as hell . you could also put a call out to rc community for crashed ones and try get them free
@@hotcoffee5542 If you know anything about electricity you know that the 55V unloaded will drop to 5-10V loaded and the current will be, at best 1A. This will give you 5-10W of usable power with this particular configuration, which is too little for all the effort - there are no free meals in physics and power generation is one of the most difficult cases, due to the very low efficiencies in all types of generators.
Thanks. There's a Paypal button on the opensourcelowtech.org website, but if you become a member of the the channel via the 'Join' button under the video there's extra perks.
In practice it turns out more like 200 for this kind of drop and flow. Check the part 2 video. I'll be experimenting with a couple potential further optimisations with the next build.
people like you, who use their knowledge to better the wold for free with open source project are one of the few reason i have not lost all hope for humanity. thank you
I was just thinking exactly the same thing 👍
@@andreihossu2749 i do not praise him for making the best most efficient desing, i praise him for doing it free, for the benefit of mankind.
science if full of idea that have been paused and given more interest after. it's also full of idea beeing halted, but the motive for that stop is not always ineficiency, it can be lack of interest, death of the inventor, conflict with lobby,...
in medecine phago therapy came up befor vaccines and yet it was left behind because it was not easy to mass produce, but now that antibiotics have been overused we see it as a new miracle while it is old tech. the electric car also came before the fuel one.
even if it's not the best use of energy (because i agree it's not using the whole potential energy) it could be usefull some place
also people have already pointed out that he should use a load to see the real power of his engine. he didn't say it was the best or that he was the messiah as you seem to think
Sad that our power companies won't buy power generated like this otherwise thousands would be doing it.
@@andreihossu2749 yeah yeah you're not extracting the full potential energy with that kind of device, i can see that. but that might be enough for lights in a small house and it's easy and cheap to build.
i'm sure in some place they would already be happy with this kind of powersource
(plus i've never seen a motor working this way, it's interesting)
@@andreihossu2749 Hopefully you can save the world with your vast knowledge, unfortunately I think your pessimism will keep you from trying anything.
Thank you sir. I decided to move to rural South America to get away from civilization but after some major flooding I rejoined society, albeit in a different way. I started a "critical skills club" in rural Chile and invited many to come build many dozens of these based on your design, we ended up scaling them up in size and capacity, so 30 separate turbines became 12, and then 6, now the entire village has more power than we know what to do with and we are helping many others in the nearby region to do the same. Much love, you helped a lot of people. Damn solar is too expensive and too hard to make raw material wise, THIS is the perfect idea. With the power we were able to maintain palliative care services at a nursing home, you literally saved dozens of lives.
Hey, that's amazing, do you have more information / data / media of this?
Please tell us more! Would love to see pictures of what you did!
He's like Doctors Without Borders but the green energy division. You have inspired me sir. I have water behind my house and I'm thinking of 4 of these in a series would end my dependence on the grid.
A big drop is necessary too, I think. Two meters is tough to come by where I live.
I've seen people do this method with even less steep of a drop, but they used a machine to begin the syphon initially so the pressure was crazy high
Engineers without borders is a thing. Also, as it happens, clowns without borders.
Daniel congratulates you for your initiative.
The world needs more people like you, who help by doing, showing how to do it and not charging for the teaching you give.
God bless you. Jalmar from Brasil.
As a college drop out I can honestly say Ive learned much more from you tube
Someone give this man some funding , let him build a water tower and watch him light up a city. Great effort keep up the good work, the world needs more people thinking like you
Pumped storage requires ADDITIONAL energy to pump water to the storage location to release for hydroelectric power. The easiest way is to just go make a pond on a hill and plumb a pipe. You would have to harness wind or solar to operate your charge pumps. Im the end, these infrastructure solutions require mot just the technical knowledge but specific knowledge of the geology and biome of the place you are bringing services to so that these infrastructure projects can be maintained or upgraded and not become an additional problem.
You are a great guy ... love your spirit ... thanks a lot for being selfless ...something we have lost in this world
Good to hear it’s about 50% efficiency. That’s pretty good considering the simple to make design using off the shelf parts that were not designed for super efficient hydro generation.
I’d like to make one for camping.
You're doing a lot of good for the world. May your tribe increase! Thanks
Thanks
This guy deserves more subscribers than any other channel that I know
I love this stuff this is the kind of things that can really change peoples lives
Please show how to build
This is the stuff my father taught me growing up to build
wow never seen a siphon style turbine before.
do you think they're generating power legitimately already downstream, behind this guys camera?
siphon between farm ponds, back and forth, as long as the outlet is longer than the intake it will work.
Dan Di you can only siphon from a higher elevation to a lower one. Never the other way around. Really, this is a gravity powered generator.
Siphon type is highly inefficiënt. It can only achieve a vacuum at the low pressure part of the generator.
Pressure difference over the pump will always be less than 1Bar.
Mounting the pump at exit of the pipe will give extra energy. Certainly when height difference is more than say 10meters
@@fransmulder9326 I think it was done this way to make it easy to test in the area he was given. I liked the design because it gives me other options in some unseen future.
I like the whole idea of winning free energy from the nature. Keep up the good work mates.
This is great work for humanity you open source people. What a great Vision it is, IF this technology gets adopted as well as optimized for people in remote rural communities. Great Humanitarian folks! you deserved all the love in the world.
people like you make the world go still..... thank you...
I just found out you exist and I know you've changed my life
Building stuff like this is super interesting to me. I believe this is what living life is all about.
agreed idk where to start
I am fascinated by the way people are reinventing the hydropower systems. Most of this was done in the late 1700's for mechanical power and around the late 1800's for hydroelectricity. The major difference between then and now is really lower power levels. Now 500 Watt will provide a lot of light and communications. I strongly suggest finding a copy of a 19th century Water Power textbook. It should be very helpful.
Such a beautiful thing, to see people who want to help the world and pur planet; over people who want to control it for the illusion of personal gain.
Excellent . Cheers mate. Sending love and gratitude to you and your family. Many will have their quality of life increase . Many lives will be saved. Many inspired. Our children are the future and they are watching this! Amazing & beautiful.
Hi all. Been getting quite a few queries as to how the turbine is developing, which is good to see that there's a high level of interest in the project.
I just shot the next update video yesterday, will edit and release that as soon as I relocate from Berlin back to Scotland later this week.
In short, it works, produces a decent amount of power (full details in the next video), and I'll be doing longer term field tests and a full open source construction tutorial imminently.
Hello sir, can I use your idea in creating my research project and papers? I am really in need of your answer because without your consent, I will be marked with plagiarism in my papers. Email me at my account😊. Thanks in advance❤
@@joshua9744s Everything on the channel is open source, and can be used for any purpose including commercial.
So please do.
Thank you very much sir! I really like your work and appreciate every help you gave thanks a lot and I hope more people get interested in your project that you've been doing it is really innovative and helps the people and the environment. Keep up the good work and God Bless you❤😊
Sorry, I didn't see your update notice a few comments back.
Nice system! I'm interested in trying something similar to power an RFID system. We previously built a high-head, low-flow system with the 5-gallon-bucket design, and later rebuilt it with a real Pelton wheel. I've got a few videos about our system on my channel. We moved to a site with a weir that might make a low-head generator like yours feasible, especially with needing something to engage two teenage boys out of school for at least the next month. I'm looking forward to your follow-up video!
So, first off, this is a fun little contraption that does indeed have real-world applications, so keep it up. This is the first time I've heard of this open source project, but I think I might like to get involved! Anyhoo, others have mentioned a few issues here and there, and things that need to be considered, and I'll just throw a few items in here as well (some of these may have already been mentioned in other comments):
1. Any air drawn into the siphon tube will want to find a place to collect. The longer your discharge tube, the greater the chance that some of the air will be trapped at the top elbow. A "band-aid" solution to this problem is just to add a large air-gap reservoir at the top where you've placed the cap. A long term solution would be to use a small take-off siphon line to develop vacuum in a smaller diameter pipe along with your main discharge. In this way, you could create an "eductor" (yay Bernoulli's principle!) which draw any air out of the reservoir, thus preserving the main siphon.
2. Your impeller is one of your major bottlenecks for producing max, continuous power. One solution might include a multi-stage impeller with stationary blading in between. This will maximize torque if you get it right.
3. Blade seals - I'm not sure how you would do this simply and cost-effectively, but the trick here is to prevent any flow from passing the impeller blades without imparting any force. Typically, a labyrinth seal is used for this, but I don't know if that's easily applied. Perhaps someone could come up with something via 3D printer.
4. Suction screen - you don't want to accidentally suck up large objects which could damage your impeller. You need to put a large screen at your suction - larger is better because you will want to compensate for partial blockage in the event something gets stuck on the screen. Simply having a section of your suction piping that has a zillion holes drilled into it, and a capped off end would work.
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Somebody understands what's happening. Wonder if they have a channel on youtube with a 3-d instructional video? I guess I'll go searching now.
@@aicram62 I don't, although I've considered making vids like that. So far I only have videos about growing exotic peppers lol. I'd be happy to explain any part of what I said (or any other principle in this family of physics) if you have questions. Also, I'm 100% sure there are other people who have great explainers, too.
Governments could make available injection moulded turbine blades, perhaps in glass-reinforced polypropylene. Also, a blade design that could be reproduced locally with simple indexing lathes would allow villagers to make lots of blades and rotors. Really the blades could even be carved out of wood.
@@MichaelIreland Thank You I'm still feeling out options so I'm not ready yet. I was just impressed with your reply.
You are a awesome person, as are all ppl who were involved in this open source low tech turbine.
Especially the cameraman, cameramen in generall deserve more praise.
Definitely subbing your channel & looking forward to more ingenious stuff like this.
Documentation crew are so often overlooked, yes. Thanks.
Hello Daniel is very nice to see A light of hoop in the work that you do we need more people in the world with a heart like yours.
I am trying my best to find something to help the people in the rural areas in Papua New Guinea i need people like you bringing blessings to the poor people 🙏
Feel free to email me.
Amazing stuff! I'm preparing to live off the grid and was looking for a cheap reliable water turbine to power some of my appliances. Thanks for sharing this awesome water turbine with the world
How is it going
J1 & CHP it's been a learning experience good days and hard days but all and all I'm glad I've made the decision do this currently living out of a waxed canvas tent have most of my electronics and my led lighting running off solar and the more demanding things like a small fridge and a back up generator I keep charged off of the turbine found in this video, for anyone thinking about doing this I strongly suggest giving it a try its hard work but its very rewarding, you know the feeling after a long day at a 9-5? the exhaustion you feel after working on building your homestead knowing all your hard work benefits you and your loved ones it makes you feel good as you sit back and look over all you have done. considering starting a vlog series about my experience.
@@bug3518 omg that is so cool
How do u shower?
@@chpcovers6560 I have a gravity shower it’s basically a bag with a shower head lol in the colder months I heat the water before filling
Nice to see. You starting to live off the land?
My hat off to you sir, respect.
That's just plain old good work fellas. Bob from Philadelphia
Thank you very much for your kind heart you giving chance for people to make their life better. A specially for people from my mountain country. Tajikistan, GBAO Khorog. Appreciate all of your diligence. Keep doing your excellent projects.
You should be mainstream news mate, is brilliant.
Nice concept. Ingnore the haters if this works for you that's what matters.
Really excellent work, guys!
This is really important work you're doing, which will have significant benefits.
This is amazing. I absolutely love watching your channel. I just wish I had the water resource in my backyard.
Fantastic job, guys. The turbine looks like the impeller of a centrifugal pump with shroud. So as you pointed out, you only need good flow for this turbine and not much of head.
I'm studying energy engineering and stuff like this is exactly what i want to do when I've majored. This made me so inspired. Thank you!
Nice one.
such a simple design yet its so efficient. wow
Love what you are doing. Much needed tech for everyday human living where resources are highly constrained...
Love brother!!!😍😍👍 Well done!!! You have just given me some ideas. Thank you very much!!! And keep up the good work!!!
Note; to get watts you must measure volts and amps at the same time. Measuring shorted amps will provide zero or almost zero volts. Loved the video.
Indeed. Check the part 2 video in Berlin for more comprehensive and accurate power measurements.
wow esto es lo mejor que he visto en mucho tiempo buscando informacion. Muchisimas gracias, porfin podremos tener luz en el rancho. Intentaremos aplicarlo
THis is so satisfying. "Free energy". Also the priming part was super satisfying.
Thanks for all the helpful comments. I'm currently in Berlin working on optimising the design, including ways to maximise the rpms and voltage, so as to be able to have less load for more power overall, and try to hone in on that hundreds of watts figure.
I'll be publishing all the results in a future video soon. Any suggestions and recommendations for ways forward are certainly appreciated.
And if you have any technical questions let me know.
Hey Man, I like this project and live in Berlin, I would like to help you to optimise this project, I have a master in Electronic Industrial Engineering Energymanagement.
Ok cheers, happy for any help I can get. Email me, address is on the opensourcelowtech.org website.
Quality balanced bearings to reduce resistance,
Why couldn't you place generator'(s) in the down flow pipe as well for additional output? Just thinking out loud! Nice work.
Do you know how the dyson vacumm advanced? Vortex within a vortex = exasterbated flow, mite work with kw output too?
UA-cam algorithm on point! I've been wanting to do exactly this but didn't really have access to a good site until recently.
I was looking to send this to you Joe!
@@yv6eda I was like #50 to watch it somehow.
The efficiency on this will be absolutely terrible I know I have tried it many times please show us the numbers of the wattage it is putting out that way everybody understands completely what is going on truthfully. I applaud you for trying to get power to third world countries at a reasonable price. But if you are not siphoning the water over a culvert the efficiency would be greatly improved.
@@SpencerLAPowerSpencer I agree, low head requires really really high flow but if this could power some lights for as cheap as it is it would be just fine. He could even run multiple in parallel.
@@JoeMalovich in most countries I've sold 2 over the years out of the United States most of them can't get or afford batteries so it has to run Direct to the lights or whatever they want to run . Just curious as to how much power it actually makes given the tremendous head that he has their looks like it's about 10 to 12 feet or more The on-demand power is very minimal but should be able to run a few LED lights. But over time it would charge a battery bank and they could power mini lights and appliances off of it as you know charge controllers and inverter cost money. I'm not trying to knock this guy I think he's doing a great thing to help people that can't afford it.
Basically a simple siphon attached with DC generator, very cool sir!!
Wow!!! Well done! You're saving the world!
i'm very happy i found this channel. thank you for the little inspiration : )
I like this guy
Muy bueno felicitaciones por el proyecto ! Siempre me interesó la energía renovables y todos estos campos es muy interesante saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷👏
Nikola would be proud... Thank you, I love your videos
What a treasure of a channel, glad I found it
Really cool! Can't wait to see the final version.
i hope that the tutorial will come up soon i would like to learn from it and share it to the the remote area in the philippines where people dont have basic electricity this could be a big help.
Yeah please do. I'll be putting the tutorial together in the coming months, once the design is sufficiently optimised and tested.
thank you sir this could be a big help for those people in need once the design is finished ill be more than happy to do it and hoping i can get help from the government once i made some proposals thank you again sir and Godbless you!
Have a merry Christmas and happy new year sir!
You too.
@@OpenSourceLowTech Hi there. In the video that you show how the turbine is turning the motor through the pvc pipe at the channel, can you please tell me what kind of motor you used there. Thanks Leon
Really cool idea. I would like to see it tested under load, even a relatively crude setup like rigging up some light bulbs to it or something, to show that it's not just spinning away and would stop the moment any current is drawn. 5:02 "Will power like half a dozen homes in a developing country ... Italy!" Now that's savage.
@Rens Langendoen Listened to it again, maybe you're right. Besides, Italy wouldn't be the Developing Country - these days that's probably America, given that only the rich have healthcare and many don't have access to clean drinking water. (I'm an American, for context).
@Rens Langendoen Netherlands - relative to you almost everyone's a developing country! I think Italy's doing fairly well though, I had figured this was more a British jab at them - the Brits tend to make jokes like that, and this guy sounded possibly British to me. Though I think the Brits would be more likely to make a joke about some less-well-off portion of their own country in a case like that. Or America, we deserve it!
@@quillmaurer6563 I can go see a doctor tomorrow if I wanted to you just want FREE healthcare paid for by SOMEONE ELSE. America has pretty good drinking water compared to a lot of Europe. We have polluted a lot less due to us being around for less time.
Except California. They are a mess thanks Leftists.
@@rujikin Flint has had undrinkable water for many years now and nothing has been done about it. I will agree that most of the rest of the country is pretty good though, and I'm thankful for that. Even with health insurance I've found seeing a doctor to be far more hassle than it is in many other countries as there is so much bureaucracy involved - the whole system is more concerned about getting paid than taking care of people. This is the experience of myself and of other people I know who have gotten medical care here and in foreign countries. Pretty unanimously they say seeing a doctor is far easier and more convenient - as well as cheaper - in pretty much any other country, even second- and third-world countries. I crashed a scooter in Nicaragua and had the village doctor clean me up, $5 for the whole visit including medication, zero wait time, no hassle, no worries of how it would be paid for, no waivers to sign, no medical history reports, no paperwork. Don't think they ever even asked for any form of ID. They just brought me in and cleaned me up. Granted the place didn't feel super sanitary (open windows and overall a bit dirty), and language barriers were an issue, but still I was very impressed, would take it over an American doctor any day.
@@quillmaurer6563 lol we have great drinking water compared to almost any other country. Classic American talking out of your arse.
As long as there's water supplies , you could power up needs in third world countries etc thanks for being perfect 👌
Wow, what a guy. Instantly subscribed after your intro. We need more people like you in this world.
Thanks!
Everyone's asking if a second impeller at the output of the tube would increase power. It wouldn't, as each impeller removes momentum from the water flow, and so slows every other impeller as well as reducing the maximum available power in the system.
Having the output water pouring over a water wheel wouldn't have that effect as the water would then be in open air, but the wheel would take up vertical space which you'd get more power from by just having extra pipe.
I'm currently in Berlin working on optimising and load testing the turbine design. Once I'm happy with it I'll be doing a full open source build tutorial, hopefully before summer.
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not sure this is completely correct.
after the first stage (first generator), the water is in free run/ free fall.
you may need to adjust the design, but think of the water vortex turbine.
that might work
Is that possible to make perpetual motion water out of that in a way that it will be installed in a huge elevated tank of water, the the passing water on that will be pump back to the same upper tank by couple of ram pumps which basically same water running to the second level tank. Water leak through the ram pumps will be sucked back using air pump system located higher than the main tank?
Please see below systems.
Combinations of all of that will generate continues flow of water and energy?
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Is it possible to install eight of these on 25 foot long x 8 foot tall fence post, (as a recharging system), the downspout water is captured into a retention tanks, then with an Archimedean screw, move that water uphill to an organic filter ( sand gravel charcoal ) before splitting into dual feeds for both compost heater( Biomeiler) & Rocket water heater system and Cold Water Tanks?
Nasty great guys.. May I know what was the motor and charger you used you used? Gonna be doing that in my grandma's far flung place..
I am very impressed with your invention, I am a interested in making this system, because this I believe we will have to depend on systems like this, in the future.
This is fantastic stuff, thank you for sharing this with the world!
Great job. Solar power is good, but when it's cloudy and rainy these mini hydro generators are fantastic.
This is the very exact video I was looking for on UA-cam, thanks for your ingenuity.
Thanks. You see the part 2 as well?
I'd love to see the power results after you have them when you have it under a load! looks promising
In process, hopefully something to broadcast by the end of the month.
It is interesting having the driven member at the top. However, it does not matter where the energy is extracted from the flow, because the total amount of energy depends on the volume of water and the distance it falls, no matter where the energy is extracted. Higher voltage means lower loss for transmission of the power but then the higher voltage must be reduced to the voltage that can be used by a particular user. Unless there are fairly high resistive losses in the transmission of the power, which is unlikely over short distances, it would be better to produce the power at a voltage that can be used directly. If the turbine needs to spin fast and only low torque is available then an alternator from a scooter may work well. The rectified output could be used to charge a 12 volt battery. This battery could then be used for 12 volt LED lighting. If 220 volts are needed then modern inverters are energy-efficient and available worldwide.
how does the distance the water falls _after_ the 'driven member' affect anything ? Seems like only the distance above the driven member should matter
5Hi there, really do not want to be a small rain parade. My experience with all of this is fairly extensive by this point. Voltage is one of the considerations that tells us RPM. Current draw is the basis for the actual load applied...not just a voltage meter. If you put an actual 50 watt load on the system I believe your RPM would drop to 25% of the reading that you are getting now at possibly 12 to 14 volts which would need to supply a 4 amp output to be 50 watts. It is very deceptive until you completely understand the full process. Hopefully that is not a bummer for you and maybe I am all wet in my summary...just did not see a bulb or motor or something pulling off power other than a meter and that does not count in the real world...
In the process of finding out with the new test version in Berlin. Will post results hopefully by the end of the month.
@@OpenSourceLowTech I second the observation - there is no point in reporting zero load voltage and speculating a current/power availability based on generator specs. Put a simple 10 ohm power resistor across to provide a real world load and then measure the voltage. Make it quick though as (we hope) the resistor to get very hot, very quickly.
Two other observations regarding your very interesting and innovative implementation though.
1) I would worry about maintaining a siphon for any reasonable length of time (days, weeks). Maybe the continuous flow rate will purge any bubbles forming at the top of the siphon so this is not a problem. Hope so.
2) Your observation that the current design with the impeller on top (terrific idea for maintenance etc.) not being dependent on the head as it 'is only dependent on the speed of the water, not the drop height' - I think this is going to be proven wrong. Once you have a load, the weight of the water in the pipe will support the torque on the turbine, meaning the actual power will be directly affected by the head.
Good luck with your project though, I look forward to seeing some real numbers.
@@OpenSourceLowTech you should look into maple sap production and how they run 3/16 lines(as opposed to 5/6) and it actually creates more vacuum in the tubing(sap doesn't just run down the side of the pipe, it seals and pulls vacuum) . I'm wondering If you could see this effect in your device if your down pipe was a smaller diameter that the intake??
@@joshwooten3719 , with that much volume of water at the exit, he could use a much larger impeller and have ten time the torque where he can gear up for more RPM
@@lightrose100 that water means nothing though if there is any air in the tube which could cause cavitation/air pockets. With the impeller at the top, it is completely dependent on liquid vacuum of the water moving through. Ie. You could move the same volume of air through the pipe as water and it would barely spin at all. I'm not sayings that's the case but the sap stuff is at the very least an interesting read.
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I didn’t see a dummy load or the load current meter?
and you won't because if you did put a load on that thing it would stop.
It's the same thing with everything like this it's just a whole lot of if's and but's.
You know, IF we had this and BUT the pressure and so on and so on.
This is why these things are always open source so that others can work out the flaws for them for free.
That still dosen't fix the fact that it will slow down when you put a load to it.
The power available in a stream of water is;
P=eta*rho*g*h*q
where:
P= power (J/s or watts)
eta = turbine efficiency
rho = density of water (kg/m³)
g= acceleration of gravity (9.81 m/s²)
h= head (m). For still water, this is the difference in height between the inlet and outlet surfaces. Moving water has an additional component added to account for the kinetic energy of the flow. The total head equals the pressure head plus velocity head.
q= flow rate (m³/s)
So with that we can simply calculate what head is the most efficient to use with the kind of flow available.
• Water wheel 0.2 < H < 4 (H = head in m)
• Screw turbine 1 < H < 10
• VLH turbine 1.5 < H < 4.5
• Kaplan turbine 2 < H < 70
• Francis turbine 10 < H < 300[10]
• Pelton wheel 80 < H < 1600
• Turgo turbine 50 < H < 250
Oh it wasn't just as simple as putting a stream of water through some blades, who knew?
Apparently anyone with some knowledge of the laws of nature....
@@BolinFoto I get what you are saying. But if I were to use this, I won't powering directly. I would send the power to a bank of Deep Cycle batteries, and then feed off of those.
@Charles A Townsend Charles, My thoughts on this would be to recycle the water. For example, dig a pond/reservoir, build a trestle to the desired height
Setup the mechanism intake at one end, the outlet a little was toward the other end. The out flow should not reach the water level. So now you are using the same water over and over again without having to pump it back in.
I was also thinking that a secondary power system can be used at the outflow area, this one with an offset/bladed turbine to a similar alternator, thereby doubling your energy output.
All of this power should be sent to a bank of deep cycle batteries then, inverters before you use. Just my opinion.
YK Chan that’s because it’s virtue signaling that the world can run on this garbage. Nuclear is already here. Clean safe and can run everywhere for nearly no cost per watt hour.
Hello,
Very good project I love it.
Just one thing you are wrong (or i didn't understand correctly your explanations because i'm not english native). When you say your system doesnt use pressure for its power but more the speed of water. That is not true.
To have power you need P. (Delta V / t) which is a common thermodynamic formula. So pressure and water flow are both important and necessary. And in function of those 2 potentials you will adapt your system (and you did).
Your system works with negative pressures due to water fall. That's why you need to launch it at the beginning. The rotor is runned by this negative pressure with a pulling force.
But with heights higher than 10 metters you gonna reach -1 bar (relative pression) which correspond to vacuum, so a natural limit.
So yeah it becomes more optimised to put the turbine at the bottom of the waterfall with heights > 10 metters.
Another thing, you speak about the cheap price. But you do not include electrical parts and knlowledge to convert this energy to a proper and stable electrical signal.
Anyway still cool !! Did you get 500 watts ? 😁
I would like to see it running with a load taking 10 A; wonder if de generator can deliver it at 50 V. The tension will probably drop to 25 V if not regulated. And I wonder what the torque in that case will do with the plastic turbine.
Keep up the good work.
With 10A it will drop way lower than that
Siphon tube will spin and spin whatever you want it to. Great job !
We learn to use less so we need to make less electricty. Peopl spend 4 5 6 even 1000 dollars a month for electric I pay $0.00 to an eketric company but I use my cheap amount we get from solar and batteries cheap generator you can get 1000 watts loaded from 1.3 hp you can do it with an electric motor as well as gas
Good job it will help developing countries like Nepal. Plz keep updating it. Thanks
I would be curious to see you put a real load on it,
i'd be surprised if it could handle 5 amps.
It's charging ability is great.
I like the idea of the siphon. Nice design. Do you find, with such a small, multi-blade impeller, do you have any problems with clogging due to debris in the water? Also, might your analysis regarding speed vs. torque demands differ when the generator is under load?
Seems the turbine is sitting in a section of pipe where there is little new water. You could always add a big mesh filter at the inlet pipe to minimise any debris entering
Please show us a load applied i want to see how the voltage holds
say my 5,500 watt aircompressor ore 3 x 3000 watt water heater would probably stall it, hehe but as an offgrid power supply loading a big battery and a converter12 to 110-220 volts you get more than enough power for say a washing maskine 1-2 time a day ore some powertools
even the wourld largest hydropowerplant started as a small scale science projekt.
but to perfect small scale powerplants, say a car factory could MASS PRODUSE STAINLESS STEEL TURBINS WITH GOOD SELF LUBRICATING BEARINGS!
IT WOULD MAKE THEM CHEAPER IF THEY MADE SAY 1 MILLION OF THEM THAN IF THEY SAY MADE 1.
I have no electricity, but i do have a weir in the Barcaldine forest. cheers for your invention brother!
Very useful it help people who live on developing countries like mine....
I love how the intended target of projects like this is "the developing world", yet we all know the only people going to be using this are off grid preppers in the US lol
Yes you're correct but there are people that are doing this in Colombia there are third world countries that do to this 1993 in the state of Oaxaca very poor area they were using hydrogen for lights so don't worry the people already know how to take care of themselves they don't care about what their government thinks in these places like this there is no law there.. Humanity can survive with their creator without other human intervention or a grid or government of some sort I think the thing you have to look at it when you say developing world you're talking about third world countries... but then again I think you're talking about the money aspect of what people would be getting from this this can all be done in your third world country doesn't matter where you're from Powers free I'm just going to let you know that right now.. only thing that makes the difference of us using these things that are free is your mind open up the realize that they've been there all this time for thousands of years we just haven't seen it that way... power is always been around for a long time energy has been around such as fuels there's like five different fuels you can make on your own right out of your house just from having animals manure of some sort doesn't matter as long as it has methane gas and you have a black tank or it can heat up keep moisture to it so you can keep it going... and then there's hydrogen Vapor which is the easiest to make and yes that can be made it free as well it might cost you something to use and get the parts you need but most of that stuff you can salvage from a junkyard or a dump it doesn't make a difference you can make a lot of the stuff right out of the stuff you throw away..example jars wires 2guage plumbing cap clamp screw on type brake soda..solar power ..
Nicholas Napier Bro, how about punctuation?
Is too loud for preppers in my opinion. I could see BF attacking the sound quality. Maybe it's quieter in person? Idk. From my cell...sounds like a weed wacker.
i love how water turbines actually cause anthropogenic global warming
@grodhagen meanwhile, in the 3rd world, they have flying cars:
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Amazing job, you are an inspiration
This really an impressive turbine. We also wants to use it at our fishing pond in Austria. There is no electricity but a lot of water.
which diameter do the pipes have? 100 mm or 150 mm? Is the repeller really a pc fan? The generator is a hoverboard motor, is it AC or DC?
The pipes here are 110mm up to and including the impeller (which is an ATX computer power supply fan), and then immediately after increasing to 125mm. Just because these are standard PVC sizes which seem to work ok.
The hoverboard wheel is putting out three phase AC, which will ultimately be rectified to DC for charging a battery.
@@OpenSourceLowTech That's so cool. You made something and made it from what you had available. Thanks for posting that.
Another New Zealander changing the world :)
You are genius. Well done
Use a storage container add a few ram pumps, and a water wheel, battery and multiple generators
Sink both sides deeply enough into the water, and then it works year round even if the top of the water freezes.
The pressure would equalize if both ends are in the water. Keep the water moving and it shouldn't freeze.
Clever man, i'm sending this to someone that does micro hydro generation as this is interesting indeed.
Hi Tailss!! I am going to collaborate for a hydro project here in Italy. Is it possible to reach out to your friend? I might need some tips on how to do it properly. Thank you very much!! Alex
Merhaba ben Türkiyeden proje çok güzel, teşekkür ederim, açık bir şekilde paylaşmak güzel, tebrik ediyorum ve devamını bekliyoruz...
Respect you are helping humanity
Great ! Could it be possible to imagine with intermittent energy (solar, wind) to put again the water up 2 meters, so it could deliver stable energy ? How much water could it be necessary to recycle to do so ?
Great video but those plastic blades won't hold up to 500watts once you put a load to it. I tried and it didn't work with 500 watt light as load. I ended up buying the blades. They look like spoons with a notch cut out of it.
Yes. This doesn't occur to most diy builders because it is not intrinsically intuitive. But once there is an electrical load on the generator, it creates current flow resistance that translates to electromagnetic "braking" of generator rotational speed. This braking action will snap off the plastic turbine blades as they try to turn against the increased resistance. Thanks for sharing your firsthand experience.
I tested that by shorting the three AC channels so as to create maximum load, which hammered to a stop the impeller and water flow, but didn't seem to do any damage to the blades.
Which was of course just a momentary load, we'll see how it holds up over weeks and months. The impeller can be significantly reinforced tho by gluing a thin circle of pipe around the blade edges.
@@OpenSourceLowTech time is the most important thing on earth. DONT WASTE IT you cant get it back. Learn from other people's mistakes and let's not all keep repeating mistakes.thats what big oil wants is for us to keep going in circles
@@OpenSourceLowTech you could always try a metal impeller from an RC EDF electric deducted fan there cheap and strong as hell . you could also put a call out to rc community for crashed ones and try get them free
Seems like you could put a second generator on the output end to double output
That may work, it may also cause a power loss at the main turbine. An external wheel would certainly work as it would not interrupt the flow.
It will reduce the speed of both turbines so there is no way to know for sure.
@@wolfgangouille second turbine has to stay external and you'll have gain without question
@@j.r.576 Right. I thought he meant inside the tube.
There is only so much energy in the fall. Adding another load to the flow would just slow down the original turbine..
I want so badly to learn and help this guy all over the world.
FINALLY! SOMEONE WHOM DOES SOMETHING I LOVE!
I will love to see that with a load connected on the generator or after the rectifier AC to DC.
Put two motors in series. one on front of pump one on the bottom
The losses you would get from impeding the water flow would exceed the generated power.
For this to be realistic you need: to load the generator, and show the power curve.
Yep! ROFLed when I heard 10 amps! Not even one under load! Every generator runs wild unloaded!
He says this in the video. Watch it again.
@@hotcoffee5542 If you know anything about electricity you know that the 55V unloaded will drop to 5-10V loaded and the current will be, at best 1A. This will give you 5-10W of usable power with this particular configuration, which is too little for all the effort - there are no free meals in physics and power generation is one of the most difficult cases, due to the very low efficiencies in all types of generators.
@@hotcoffee5542 he says 500 Watt which is crazy for that design.
Yes I agree totally P = V*I we cannot get away from that fact.
This is exactly what i was thinking of for getting power when on camping trips, thanks for the knowledge!
Thank you for posting this video, you just gave me a huge idea!!! Thank you and good luck man!
Whoever hit the thumbs down are just plain ignorant.
3:22 one probe in current jack, one in voltage jack und com unplugged. I dont think this style of measurement will be teached in the manual 😅
Yeah, well spotted, that multimeter wasn't set quite right, but have confirmed the voltage since.
SOOO...WHERE IS YOUR "HOW TO BUILD THIS?" VIDEO?
GREAT STUFF, MATE!
Exactly, it's just bandana man posing about
where can i donate you?
Awesome guy!
Thanks. There's a Paypal button on the opensourcelowtech.org website, but if you become a member of the the channel via the 'Join' button under the video there's extra perks.
Good design for a multiple turbine setup.
Indeed. Even the large hydropower setups have multiple turbines and generators.
500 watts? Absolutely incredible! Great job on this.
In practice it turns out more like 200 for this kind of drop and flow. Check the part 2 video.
I'll be experimenting with a couple potential further optimisations with the next build.