The quality of your videos rival some of even the most famous MTB review teams, and the thought put into the edit and the fluidity of the entire video is insane!
Great Video Rob. The quality is insane. 👍🏻😊😅 The Rocky Mountain bikes come with Cush Core tire inserts from stock. Would be nice to see a test from you. Cheers.
Looks like a nice bike. I have to say Rob, that you are the best in the industry at bike reviews buy a fair margin. From filming to presentation, it’s all top notch. Well done sir.
I've put the new XT Linkglide on my V1 Megatower and it's riding well so far. The XT has an alloy carrier with steel teeth bonded on. I'll take the extra weight and longevity every time over XT 12 Speed.
Nice review. That frame looked a little small for you on the climbing shots. Yes, that 38T chainring should get immediately replaced to be able the climb the steeper stuff...LOL
Hi Rob, Australian here, how does the Rift E2 compare to the alpine trail E1 in a trail riding sense? Love the videos as they are easy to watch over and over
My mate is on his third shimano motor in 12 months!🤔 I asked if he was going out after some rain and he said he didn’t want to risk it getting wet🫣 I’m sure he’s just unlucky but jeez!🤷🏼♂️
Great job by Marin on their e-bikes. Decent value and excellent design. I'd happily take one out for a test to compare against my Rocky Mountain anytime. Good review, as usual Rob. 👍🏻
Great channel and great vids Rob. I'm not an e-biker but your content lays everything out for easy digestible viewing so I can keep up with all the latest tech and news in this segment. Keep doing your thing man 👌
Another great review Rob. I have a trek rail 5 that I bought about a year ago and am looking to buy another e-mtb so my lad and I or missus can go riding with me more. Have been looking at that e1 version of this - looks pretty nice for the money and I have a 2018 rift zone 3 in the bike stable which I've enjoyed immensly over the last 5 years - now a bit dated geometry wise but still really capable to be fair. Also looking at the Giant Trance e2 pro with the fox 36's and float set up on it but just cant seem to decide. Theres some great deals on both these bikes at the moment for around the 3k mark. Which would you choose? the Marin or the Giant?
Mostly just wish they offered a 720wh battery and even a 900wh option to all the new marin bikes. Not sure if the new ep6 and ep801 are more efficient than the ep8 for power consumption cuz they have been at the back of the pack for range tests compared to rocky mountains dyna motor, giants sync drive, and Bosch's cx motors. Need a more efficient motor or a bigger battery to compensate for it 🤷♂️
Hi Rob, really enjoy watching your detailed Knowledgeable reviews, I have a analog bike but a lot of my friends have e bikes, so am thinking between this Marin e2 or trek rail 7 as both on sale, really like the canyons as well but have a trek dealer nearby so it would be handy if anything went wrong, swaying towards the rail 7 as have heard the Bosch is one of best motors, but would really appreciate any advice, thanks keep up the great vids
Hey @rob, I hope you see this... it's been a while since you posted. What size did you test? I know you tested a large Alpine Trail (which I own - had an XL which was too long.) I've herd that the Rift Zone E is a little more cramped.
Another great issue Rob......I really wish I could get a reply from you about your new Pole Voima and how you must like full power Mt Bikes that still weigh almost double what analog bike weighs...
Am I the only one who cannot run Shimano cassettes on an ebike? The small cogs that are not on the spider skip under max load if leaning the bike at all (Orbea Rise…tried 3 separate cassettes). Zero issues since switching back to SRAM cassettes.
Hi Rob, great vid and really enjoy the content. I've got a quick question: how can I tell the difference between the Shimano EP8 and the EP801 motors? I ask as I've recently taken delivery of a Canyon Spectral ON and I cannot tell if the motor is the current Gen EP801 or the older EP8? Cheers Brendon
You can see in the Shimano E-Tube Project App (the motor will be either the old DU-EP800 or DU-EP801), the motor also looks physically different on the left side, the Shimano logo is smaller and sits higher up on the motor on the EP801.
I wish youal would put dollar value not just pounds for price. I wish you would stop saying a $5,000 bike is budget. You can buy a motorcycle for that. Those are not budget.
Yes they are. eBikes are not motorbikes. They don't sell in the same volumes, they don't use the same tech, they're not the same thing. As Keith Bontrager said, "Strong, light, cheap; pick two." Your $5,000 motorbike weighs more than 100Kg. How much does a MotoGP bike cost??? That's where you're getting closer to the same level of tech as modern trail and enduro bikes.
@@johnthompson8148 you people are out of your mind there is no way you can call a $5,000 bicycle a budget buy I don't care how you explain it the motorcycle was just an example
Budget is relative,,, a budget car is 10k a budget house is 100k.,, nowadays a budget e Mtb is 5 k .,,a budget analog Mtb is 2 k .,,u can’t say it’s not budget just because it’s a lot of money
So many good bikes ruined by Shimano motors. Weakest motor with the worst range and anti-consumer to boot. Would not recommend Shimano motors to anyone. Bosch, Bafang, Yamaha, Pinion, Brose. Anything is better. I know other have had and still have issues but Shimano is by far the worst.
It went together easily in less than an hour. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
don't buy bikes with shiamno motors. When warranty ends and your motor fail then the only thing is to buy new motor.. These are non serviceable units, shimano don't sell any parts to that motors! This should be banned!
Hard for him to give a non biased review when you really only want to ride 10k+ bikes kitted out In top of the line parts, it’s all just to make more view/money.
Yip. E-bikes are great. If ya can afford the bike, the maintenance, and spare components. Which is why e-MTB, is for the weekend yuppies, that gotta dress-up in that MTB gear.
The quality of your videos rival some of even the most famous MTB review teams, and the thought put into the edit and the fluidity of the entire video is insane!
He literally is the famous mtb reviewer team tf you on? (He has camera man, most likely an editor as well, therefore a team)
the visual quality of your videos is just insane. you can clearly tell how much work you are putting into them. it's awesome!!
Thanks so much. We put a ton into these videos 👊
he's a bit over the top to the point it looks and sounds hyper produced. i find it distracting and unnatural.
Feedback noted. Thanks 👍
@@RobRidesEMTB i know you work hard at it Rob and many like it, just a bit overwrought for me. otherwise very much like the content mate.
Video looked and sounded amazing! Bike looks good too really do enjoy the production value you put into your videos!
Great Video Rob. The quality is insane. 👍🏻😊😅 The Rocky Mountain bikes come with Cush Core tire inserts from stock. Would be nice to see a test from you. Cheers.
Looks like a nice bike. I have to say Rob, that you are the best in the industry at bike reviews buy a fair margin. From filming to presentation, it’s all top notch. Well done sir.
The video is absolutely incredible 😁
Love the enhanced audio of the bike on the trails. Your video production is next level.
Normally watch on my phone - beautifully shot vid - looked super on my monitor in work ;)
Wow you've taken the editing to the next level, pro level production grade!
I've put the new XT Linkglide on my V1 Megatower and it's riding well so far. The XT has an alloy carrier with steel teeth bonded on. I'll take the extra weight and longevity every time over XT 12 Speed.
Nice review. That frame looked a little small for you on the climbing shots. Yes, that 38T chainring should get immediately replaced to be able the climb the steeper stuff...LOL
Thank you for this detailed review. I am saving my pennies for this one!
Hi Rob, Australian here, how does the Rift E2 compare to the alpine trail E1 in a trail riding sense? Love the videos as they are easy to watch over and over
I’m wondering the same with these 2 bikes
My mate is on his third shimano motor in 12 months!🤔 I asked if he was going out after some rain and he said he didn’t want to risk it getting wet🫣 I’m sure he’s just unlucky but jeez!🤷🏼♂️
Great job by Marin on their e-bikes. Decent value and excellent design. I'd happily take one out for a test to compare against my Rocky Mountain anytime. Good review, as usual Rob. 👍🏻
Very nice video as usual. Will we be getting a review video for the Transition Relay?
Great channel and great vids Rob. I'm not an e-biker but your content lays everything out for easy digestible viewing so I can keep up with all the latest tech and news in this segment.
Keep doing your thing man 👌
Another great review Rob. I have a trek rail 5 that I bought about a year ago and am looking to buy another e-mtb so my lad and I or missus can go riding with me more. Have been looking at that e1 version of this - looks pretty nice for the money and I have a 2018 rift zone 3 in the bike stable which I've enjoyed immensly over the last 5 years - now a bit dated geometry wise but still really capable to be fair. Also looking at the Giant Trance e2 pro with the fox 36's and float set up on it but just cant seem to decide. Theres some great deals on both these bikes at the moment for around the 3k mark. Which would you choose? the Marin or the Giant?
Mostly just wish they offered a 720wh battery and even a 900wh option to all the new marin bikes. Not sure if the new ep6 and ep801 are more efficient than the ep8 for power consumption cuz they have been at the back of the pack for range tests compared to rocky mountains dyna motor, giants sync drive, and Bosch's cx motors. Need a more efficient motor or a bigger battery to compensate for it 🤷♂️
Nice review. Thank you!
Hi Rob, really enjoy watching your detailed Knowledgeable reviews, I have a analog bike but a lot of my friends have e bikes, so am thinking between this Marin e2 or trek rail 7 as both on sale, really like the canyons as well but have a trek dealer nearby so it would be handy if anything went wrong, swaying towards the rail 7 as have heard the Bosch is one of best motors, but would really appreciate any advice, thanks keep up the great vids
Hey @rob, I hope you see this... it's been a while since you posted.
What size did you test?
I know you tested a large Alpine Trail (which I own - had an XL which was too long.)
I've herd that the Rift Zone E is a little more cramped.
Excellent video Rob. In fact unmatched quality in this industry right now 👊
Aren't they putting the thirty-eight sprocket to support the US market that has the 20 MPH cut off limits?
Another great issue Rob......I really wish I could get a reply from you about your new Pole Voima and how you must like full power Mt Bikes that still weigh almost double what analog bike weighs...
Ebikes should be made to accept 44t to 30t for a wider range of use cases especially for a trial bike
fast uphill and even faster descending, sheesh i hope so!
Am I the only one who cannot run Shimano cassettes on an ebike? The small cogs that are not on the spider skip under max load if leaning the bike at all (Orbea Rise…tried 3 separate cassettes). Zero issues since switching back to SRAM cassettes.
What brand and model is that purple jacket you use? I love the color
None of Major Ebike Brands where at The Cycle Show at Alexandra Palace same with MTB last year they where all there
Hey Rob .. do you think you can you review 'Scott Lumen eRIDE' or 'BMC Fourstroke' ?
Is it about a bike or the video production?
Looks great
I would go with the Alpine Trail E2 with the updated EP801, and bump up the fork travel to 170mm
Wouldnt you have to long shock the rear end too?
@@KurtRWalker No, Marin say a 170mm fork is accepted without picking up the rear travel
Hi Rob, great vid and really enjoy the content. I've got a quick question: how can I tell the difference between the Shimano EP8 and the EP801 motors? I ask as I've recently taken delivery of a Canyon Spectral ON and I cannot tell if the motor is the current Gen EP801 or the older EP8? Cheers Brendon
You can see in the Shimano E-Tube Project App (the motor will be either the old DU-EP800 or DU-EP801), the motor also looks physically different on the left side, the Shimano logo is smaller and sits higher up on the motor on the EP801.
@@Echoes- thanks Echoes…ill go have a quick look. Cheers
I have a Kelly’s f90 and the ep8 is super quite I’ve never heard this rattle that people talk about
I’ve not had any problems with it fingers crossed
I've got a Rotwild RE375 and the rattle isn't a "rattle" it's a brutal, repetative "knock" which can be really annoying, depending on the trail.
how does this marin value back compaire with the nukeproof megawatt which was your best value e bike
Is the chainguide adjustable to suit the 34T chainring ? 38 sure is an odd choice.
Superb vid again Rob! But what's with the voiceover, not your usual enthusiasm in it or is it just me?
At 24 kg, wouldn't it be better to get a 170mm travel bike? I mean, what's the point of having less travel if it weighs the same?
I'd go for a Cube One55.
I wish youal would put dollar value not just pounds for price. I wish you would stop saying a $5,000 bike is budget. You can buy a motorcycle for that. Those are not budget.
Yes they are. eBikes are not motorbikes. They don't sell in the same volumes, they don't use the same tech, they're not the same thing. As Keith Bontrager said, "Strong, light, cheap; pick two." Your $5,000 motorbike weighs more than 100Kg. How much does a MotoGP bike cost??? That's where you're getting closer to the same level of tech as modern trail and enduro bikes.
@@johnthompson8148 you people are out of your mind there is no way you can call a $5,000 bicycle a budget buy I don't care how you explain it the motorcycle was just an example
@@dashifusheffield2568 Budget for a proper eMTB. Obviously.
Looks like good value to me ... except for the motor choice, an option I would consider.
Budget is relative,,, a budget car is 10k a budget house is 100k.,, nowadays a budget e Mtb is 5 k .,,a budget analog Mtb is 2 k .,,u can’t say it’s not budget just because it’s a lot of money
what sort of range can you get Rob ?
You ask my missus about my rift-zone! 😖
So many good bikes ruined by Shimano motors. Weakest motor with the worst range and anti-consumer to boot. Would not recommend Shimano motors to anyone. Bosch, Bafang, Yamaha, Pinion, Brose. Anything is better. I know other have had and still have issues but Shimano is by far the worst.
Shimano is best
Creaky cranks ?
It went together easily in less than an hour. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
Where are you riding there Rob? That's not Surrey Hills is it.
Mixture of Quantocks, Somerset, Minehead and Swinley Forest :-)
@@RobRidesEMTB cool cheers bud 👌🏼
don't buy bikes with shiamno motors. When warranty ends and your motor fail then the only thing is to buy new motor.. These are non serviceable units, shimano don't sell any parts to that motors! This should be banned!
Got two Shimano EP8s not one issue yet
@@emtbtrailrider539 you will see where jerryofthebikes is coming from once that e010 error code shows up, till then enjoy your bikes 👍
What a load a terd.
@eMTB Trail Rider, I think you have been lucky. If you are out of warranty, you should be budgeting for it.
That’s how warranties work, you get coverage until the warranty expire. Why do you feel entitled to warranty coverage without a warranty?
Hard for him to give a non biased review when you really only want to ride 10k+ bikes kitted out In top of the line parts, it’s all just to make more view/money.
Yip. E-bikes are great. If ya can afford the bike, the maintenance, and spare components. Which is why e-MTB, is for the weekend yuppies, that gotta dress-up in that MTB gear.
Was excited until 140 travel
Shimano- no thank you
Are they listening?..
Any e-bike under $5K must be cheaply made and unbelievably unreliable. It's too cheap to be any good. Should probably be sold at Walmart. 😂😱
Sausages for fingers
No bike is worth 5k. Everyone paying that much is being mugged right off.
cant even nearly compete with cube´s prices :(