UK School Teacher Fired for Prophet Muhammad Cartoon - Andrew Doyle
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- In the face of authoritarianism, we need to hold fast to our liberal values
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From my childhood in the 70s I remember a song with the lyrics "Conform or be cast out" which seems more relevant current day.
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I remember a horse that won the Grand National. Comply or Die. Pretty much sums up what this debate is about!.
Can you please invite Apostate Prophet?
The inability to separate religion from state is the main problem with Islam. If your faith can be challenged by a cartoon, your faith is not worth the papyrus it's written on.
(It's a dead warlord's fan club. Of COURSE bad mouthing the warlord is the single most egregious thing you can do within that fan club.)
Don't disrespect other people's beliefs for fun
@@MH-bf4uu Grow a pair!!!
People's beliefs should be mocked mercilessly if they are as stupid and destructive as Islam, an ideology that has reduced large swathes of the world to primitive barbarism.
People's beliefs should be mocked mercilessly if they are as stupid and destructive as Islam, an ideology that has reduced large swathes of the world to primitive barbarism.
Since when does Islam rule on what Britain teaches in schools. Never give in to religious fanatics.
Since idiots mass imported jihadis to the point where they outnumber non-jihadis.
*englaza teaches.....
The knobs running the country bend over backwards for certain people
Ah, Islam a religion of peace!😉🙃
Since it's been allowed to.
You can take a Muslim out of the dark ages, but you can never take the dark ages out of a Muslim.
you killed 100 million indians in 40 years
In the end our two cultures may be fundamentally incompatible. Those who lead should consider that.
All religions are mad as history is full of examples
@@Peter-ww9bw Just one question for you. If you could live in a Christian or a Muslim country, which one would you choose?
@@SaxonGlory non of the above,
This is the true islam....its in the koran to eliminate the infidels
Read Koran 60 8-9 for more information
@@randomhuman2595 Does the term "those who do not fight you" include those that do not physically attack you but do verbally critize your doctrine? And if the answer is confirmative, do you believe that this opinion is shared by the majority of your 'fellow believers'?
@@randomhuman2595 Do you condemn hamas as a terrorist organisation?
and they all use the Holy Book as justification for their actions....which incidentally the Hafs version was written in 1925 when Arabs were resenting Jews coming home to the Holy Land hence the hatred of muslims of Jews
@@randomhuman2595 There is NO Sura 60 in the Koran. 60 is a hadith, which is written by Arabs in the 7th & 8th centuries, & has no relevance today.
No blasphemy laws….just deportations.
Back to France
Downtown Mogadishu would be another place that springs to mind. It's sparsely populated, there's mosques galore, and the weather's sometimes Shia and other times Sunny, if you see what I mean.
@@user-zx4cp6kz4b I thought it only rained shia's on a sunny day if you can see rainbows
To Mecca,yes. Islam is a cancer. From an apostate
I hope the UK will be a Muslim country soon 😊
Islam is not your friend
steve , '''They are more the enemy.''' I know who our friends are, and its not Islamists.
Read Quran 60 8-9 to learn why this comment is wrong
I unfortunately married a Muslim, and moved to a Muslim country. I did not convert but I was told that is they found out I was Jewish they would kill me. This is not some 1800 historical story, thus was 2009. Islam as a religion is false. It's an ideology. The culture for the 99.9% majority of these countries are approx 500 years, behind evolution and the fast pace of the world. Women are typically either uneducated or have degrees. No middle ground. Either westernised or not. The 2 cannot work together, it really is that simple of an answer
and yet millions of zoomers truly believe otherwise, having no concept or interaction with actual muslims.
@@ian.swift.31614
I loved watching them work customer service in those neighborhoods and *lose their sauce* the first time an old brown guy talked over them and asked if there was a man in the building he could speak to.
Diversity is our weakness.
YES to this.
Also tolerance. England is a Christian country if they come here then this is something that should be accepted and Christians come first.
If Britishers are too woke to care about their own values, do you expect others to do it?
Scary that! 😮
We are surrounded by a lot of weak men creating hard times...
Hard times create hard men, It's coming.
Why just men or have you not seen the same disgusting behaiviour from women?
Not yet. This new generation is the worst of the ‘weak’, they’ll make the times so hard that they break down institutions before the hard men can’t take it anymore. My estimate is that the following generation will rise against all of this. Therefore, the next 25-30 years will be quite dodgy
Weak men, weak women, etc.
@@forsociopoliticalstuff2629 no difference. There was a time our language that men, man, him, he was to speak of an ‘unknown’ the revolution started a long time ago, with comments similar to this.
So let me get this straight... When muslims feel offended by a picture and protest against a teacher and threaten his life, that's free speech and must be defended at all costs.
But when someone says there are only two genders, now that's a far right and racist behavior that needs to be met with the complete force of the law
Unless they say things about LGBT, then it’s ok!
You got it!
Unless that person is a Muslim ofcourse.
If it's a muz who says there are only two genders, then that's ok.
complete FARCE of the law....
1:47 I resigned membership of this same union (NEU) in disbelief. Disgusted with their non-handling of this situation; they were mealy mouthed and cowardly. Did not condemn the behaviour of the mob with their daily intimidation at the school, threats of terror and death at his home toward him and his family.
The NEU, should be ashamed.
Well done.
Did any of the other teaching unions say anything in defence of the teacher, or where they all as quiet?
I did similar over their supine, virtual signalling calls to support ‘Free Palestine’ marches. One action group were calling for volunteers to go to Calais to offer advice to migrants. John K.
Those 9th graders who premeditatedly plotted schemed to have their teacher fired are NOT innocent. Sadly, you said, "We were reluctant to blame the children". Good god, man, the foolishness of such a statement. I have taught chemistry for 35 years, and such students are crafty. They knew exactly what they were doing. Previously, you told us that the students wanted him to be denounced. So, contradict yourself by suggesting they are not responsible for his sacking. They are indeed morally reprehensible, guilty, and accountable. We have excused this behaviour, at society's peril, for far too long.
@user-et9zf3ne5p You are exactly right to point out that there ought to be due process in place-well, at least here in Canada, there indeed is the right to due process. Therefore, this could not actually happen here in Canada. This could not happen unless there was an investigation and it was brought before a tribunal-if it even got that far. Such a case would fail. Believe me, I have been down many
such roads. I was shocked that there was no actual process in place. After all, the Canadian system is mirrored in the British system.
You need to see the puppeteers behind the scenes controlling things from the shadows.
It's because our politicians are scared, and don't know what to do.
More like spineless. It isn’t that hard to uphold the law.
They're not scared, they just want to maintain their way of life by giving in to whatever popular "movement" has the most traction in order to keep their supporter numbers high.
They know the solution but going back against 40 years of mass immigration narrative and saying its a disaster will never happen.
Your politicians are the ones helping push this. As for the teacher, he's very lucky he didn't lose his head like that teacher in France.
@@ratgrl81like they still do in many Islamic nations even for blasphemy all in the name of allah
she was 9 years old
6 when he married her
Ah, the false prophet
@@hmmmmmm69 police be upon him
@@ct5965😂😂😂😂😂
Free speech matters.
So he does his job...gets threatened and bullied out of his home and job, gets sacked and has to go into hiding..where is his union?where are his and his families himan rights?
Why do we keep let these people dictate to our teachers.
We allow these people to dictate many,many things and the list keeps growing.
Apathy. Cowardice.
Blame it on the British school system and the British government for being spineless.
No blame it on those Muslims who issued death threats and the child and family who complained and any Muslim who supports such brutality.
@@theinngu5560 Sorry but Muslims gonna Muslim. Our government and institutions should be robust enough to shut down this lunacy as soon as they try it.
@@theinngu5560❤❤❤❤
But they all threw out the British 60 years ago and now have to work it out for themselves. It's going wrong - ah, the British
I'm sure I've seen a Go fund me page for this teacher. It's reached over hundreds of thousands. It is disgusting as a country where we have allowed this teacher and his family to live in absolute fear because of religion. The UK is a Christian country. A democratic country. If Muslims or other religions can not live in this country, then please leave. If they want to practise their faith, do so privately. Funny how 0% of immigrants to Middle East/ Muslim countries do not go there and start building churches, synagogue etc......
Or... Don't disrespect other peoples beliefs for fun
UK was a Christian and democratic country once, and it no longer is.
@MH-bf4uu a truly stupid comment.
@@jamewakk if we keep saying this, it will end up like this. Why do people not fight back? Every other country is allowed to celebrate irs history, traditions, religions etc, yet there is always some group shouting that " I'm a victim"
Fighting back doesn't mean violence, or any of the new words that have been made up over the last few years. It means fighting back for the country we either were born in, or have chosen to live in. Just a simple idea 😊
The whole premise of Islam is to spread and conquer - the quicker the West wrap their heads around this the better.
What the hell happened to solidarity ?
50 years ago, if someone was dismissed unfairly the WHOLE WORKFORCE would walk out, that very day. And we would stay out until he/she was reinstated.
You live in a post-family, post-loyalty, post-interconnectivity era populated by lazy opportunistic cowards.
Y'know Brave New World? Yeah. You're in it.
(Nobody tells you that the world around you has become morally bankrupt. They just all quietly stop caring around the same time.)
Welcome to the 'New Left'...seemingly zero connection to the values of not-so-long-ago
fear
The gynocentric social order we allowed to solidify replaced solidarity with opportunism and snitching.
O, What Brave New World.
Thatcher happened.
Islam pushes, and gets no pushback. So it pushes a bit more and more and more until it gets a pushback. It hasn’t received a pushback yet so it keeps pushing.
Exactly, every Ramadan they do a bit more, last one was prayers in football stadiums and cathedrals, next year it will be stopping traffic five times a day and having restaurants closed during the day
The oppression of women is not the only problem.. the weird over-sensitivity with the noncey messiah is another one too bizarre for a people world
Let's stop referring to Mohammed as a prophet - he wasn't.
“The instant we admit that a book is too sacred to be doubted , or even reasoned about , we are mental serfs.”
― Robert G. Ingersoll
What people forget is that the school suspended 3 teachers, their whole civics/English dept, and it was the pupils themselves who set up a petition to reinstate them. If I remember rightly, it got over 60.000 signatures.The school, unions, local politicians, and police, were all complicit.
Really dreadful but very happy at least the pupils had some guts
The treatment of this young Teacher is not just disgusting, its unforgiveable, THE Head Teacher must be pensioned off!
I honestly can't fathom why anyone would even consider going into teaching these days.
Teaching, policing, public policy, public service of any kind… the list goes on
My ex wife has just quit after 20 years, she’d had enough of al this nonsense
People who like to manipulate the minds of children. Having control over peoples lives is a powerful drug.. which is the same reason most of these nasty little control freaks want to get into parliament.
It's even more worrying to think of the kind of people that would. Either those who previously wouldn't have made the grade, or radicals with a matching agenda.
This should've been shut down by the police immediately, there's far too much of this kind of thing happening in the UK (including the threats to MP's as well), and there's been very little response to it by the authorities.
We've tolerated the intolerant for too long, and hardline Islamists are very intolerant of people who disagree with their faith.
100% agree...along with their community imam...he too should have shut it down
Once you silence, coerce or bully anyone in the name of religion, that is when your God ceases to exist.
Once you allow your religion to be mocked and permit something that is completely forbidden in your church that’s when your religion becomes a joke.
Your also ignorant, there is no such thing as “your God” there’s only “The God”
The late great Christopher Hitchens would have had a field day!
Yes, his warning years ago ' resist while you can' resonates louder than ever.
Islam is Britain's fastest growing political movement.
Not a good thing.
Why are they hiding their faces these brave brave Muslims nothing but intimidation
People of different religions and race belong in their OWN country’s. This diversity experiment has failed as it ALWAYS does
Other religions isn't the problem. I never had any problems with a Jainist or Buddhist. The problem starts when that religion openly calls for war against us and we are pretending they aren't.
Would he have been fired if he made a cartoon of Jesus or Buddha?
Most definitely not.
Promotion in at least 1 case...
Nope
No, but other religions don't have blasphemy laws. Muslims want to impose their laws on Western society.
It says our society is in a dire state.
If I recall correctly the "protest" against enlightened teaching was during "lockdown". Funnily enough protests against the lockdowns in West Yorkshire at the same time were met with riot police. Two tier policing and every police 'service' has been ideologically captured. Group think amongst senior officers who have been chosen for their adhesion to follow the party line and are incapable of thinking for themselves. The reason I am resigning.
The country of my birth is doomed unless and until someone with a big pair steps up.
Shame on the British establishment
I am disappointed that even Triggernometry won't show the Charlie Hebdo cartoon even though it is clearly relevant. They too have been bullied into following the blasphemy laws of islam.
Understandable not to want to create incredible hassle and possible deaths threats as well…most people do want to live!
Such laws are not law in this secular island. We need some constitutional clarity. Urgently. Blashpemy is not illegal here. We tolerate the intolerant. But we must clarify our laws that publicise, promote and defend our free expression and freedom of thought values. At a constitutional level. Intolerant people who make threats or use violence towards the tolerant, just because they got offended, must be punished. Violence and intimidation by an intolerant, non-inclusive, homophobic, right wing ideology cannot be tolerated within this inclusive tolerant society. Islam is like something from the dark ages. Islam doesn't allow music, dancing, art on your walls, being creative, satirising of ourselves and our beliefs. If it had another name we'd be far more vocal about such an oppressive belief system that prevents cultural, social and psychological evolution. All religions suck, but the most boring one of all is the worst. Women have a crap time in Islam. But gay people? Poor buggers! (pun intended). We must be aware of, and defend our liberal values.
Disgusted that the teachers' unions did not call a national strike to stand up for the teacher.
Please don't make excuses for the pupils, ban phones at school and if ANY pupil pulls these stunts its time for a real re-education.
Take it from someone who drives past this school every day, Batley is a shit hole and I can guarantee this isn't the worst thing to happen around here 😂😂
As someone who lives near the town, I think you'll find it is the worst thing! A local teacher has had his whole life turned upside down and has had to go into hiding to protect his life. Sod all else happens in Batley other than generic weed smoking boy racers racing around in their rental cars!
I read what was shown was given by the education department, not something he created. Very worrying
Scary what UN protocols etc leads to...
The lesson is to eliminate “hate speech” laws - it’s a backdoor blasphemy law.
Sickening. What happened to free speech - and how did we get to the state when being offended is a heinous crime. Glad I grew up in a time when we were told sticks and stones etc. Orwellian times.
Quite. Newspeak and double speak is the norm. So much that the left has words that will tell them immediately whether you’re on their side or not. Such as cisgendered, if you state this is your personality - you’re in.
UK is in transition to a Fascist one. UK voters? You can still do something about this. Not for much longer. Truly Fascist governments don't tolerate too much voter initiative.
Nah, Canada is flirting with fascism. Britain is becoming an Islamic theocracy.
Imagine the myopic worldview of those who threaten violence over others exercising their rights.
Seeing the crowds of bearded Muslims I can only say, what the eff are they even doing in the country??
What is your issue with them?
@@Dr.Ian-Plect😂😂😂 so putting fatwas on someone is completely normal to you. Celebrating atrocities 🙄
@@keepingitreal618 Another imbecile that can't understand the concept of a question.
Muted.
@@keepingitreal618 Another fungus that can't understand the concept of a question.
Muted.
@@keepingitreal618 Another rat that can't understand the concept of a question.
Muted.
Disgusting , why are we putting up with this monstrous behaviour , it must be stopped !, a bloody cartoon i ask you ! this is BS.
Government, authorities and the police are absolute cowards, I despise them for not standing up for this teacher
The lack of support, the fact that those threatening the teacher have never been prosecuted, the fact that these idiots are allowed to get away with anything and everything is a disgrace on all concerned!
We are is so much trouble
I think the one good thing to come out of both this and other stuff is that people are finally saying we cannot let this go on and I don’t think it could happen again…too many ordinary people would come out against it and fortunately the Michaela School won its case against the praying at lunch time by the Muslim girl
There is a difference between a protest and a mob demanding the sacking of a teacher for a perceived slight.
How do people even have the gal to question why kids feel they’ve so much power in schools and why they act out in such disgraceful manners, worst than ever before, when it’s so obviously tied to things like this by allowing kids to feel they can rid themselves of a teacher, get excused from class and be permitted to not participate by simply mentioning that they’re offended?
You’re creating this problem by consistently validating their emotions and allowing them to believe their emotions trump everything.
It’s no wonder the world in disorder.
The silence from our leaders on this issue is sickening...Hard times are coming. Be ready.
Everyone all at once all over the world should start publishing cartoon of their dear leader.
De facto blasphemy laws.
Democracy NO religion is untouchable. NONE. All can be discussed, as long as no violence is acted.
One of the most egregious things to happen among many in our land, there should have been an immediate clamp down on the protests outside a school this is England. The cowardice displayed by the head teacher the police and the establishment regarding this is shocking.
Sometimes good men have to do bad things when faced with evil , you have to stand up and be strong, remember that!
This is a Christian country they know that and should abide by our customs. No normal religion would exact such a law and it is extremists who are pushing this agenda. People should defend the laws here and no one group is above them. No one should be in fear of retribution for a distorted ideology.
And it’s only going to get worse.
Thank you for your voice, Andrew. You are making a difference.
People laughed when we said they were going to implement Sharia law in England... yet here we are.
I suspect the reason the people do not speak out is simply due to fear. Say one thing wrong and never work again? That is enough to provoke fear, fear for peoples' livelihoods or the safety of their children. We also see a state with two tier policing that will come down firmly on the side of the offended. The example I give is the mother forced to apologise in the "scuffed Koran" incident. The police are alleged to have taken the women to apologise.
Well said!
Exactly.
‘Officers for Social Cohesion or ‘Kick the Deviants out of the country’ .. I know which I’d vote for!
They won't like my tee shirts now that I've found a printer brave enough to produce em for me
Don’t let them dictate us it’s a free speech country they say and do what they like once you start bowing to them it never ends
Again, Andrew is spitting logic.
If I'd known I'd have been there with a poster of Mo.
I worked as a consultant with public servants at an “iconic”, easily identifiable public service in Central London for way too many years. Public servants come in two flavours: totally incompetent or utterly lazy. Often both. All are utterly spineless and hang their flag in the wind any day of the week. At the “iconic” civil service, all work was done by consultants. Despite the bickering, the civil service is surprisingly well-funded. Ironically, the top brass always talked about reducing consultants to reduce costs. The efficient approach would have been to let the public servants go and to keep only the consultants. Therefore, I am not the slightest surprised that the school sacrificed the teacher instead of standing up. Talking endlessly about woke ideals is much easier than doing any work, serving the public or “doing the right thing”. Never mind standing up for British values. I am so glad I got away from this swamp.
Nailed it! Western countries first created generations of entitled, lazy and incompetent civil servants that cannot be touched. Then, second, they told everyone these same incompetent people were the pride and the engine of the nation. We are now enjoying decades of ideological contamination.
i am loving more of Andrew on Triggernometry - much more pls
I was a pupil of Holy Cross Girls School so I completely agree with the reasoned arguments expressed here. Spot on as usual Andrew.
People mistake this as a one off mob. It isn't. It's just Islam, pure and simple.
Wow, stunningly, fair, balanced, well researched, and insightful! Kudos to trigonometry for another excellent UA-cam video !!!
What is happening in the UK!?!
It says that our politicians are totally spineless. In this case the head teacher and management team should be held accountable for not backing the teacher.
Fair play Andrew Doyle for not avoiding contentious topics and events
Teacher's lucky to be still alive 😮
Honestly, the poor man is going to spend the rest of his life in hiding? not a hill to die on, its just not worth it. He should have stayed clear of the whole subject.
@@paulinegallagher7821it certainly is worth it what would you do just roll over and give in to a false god. This is not the fkn Middle East
Your ideas are very clear and they represent mine too . Thank you 🙏🏻
And mine ❤
This video is great. Fab job Andrew 👍
This was the catalyst for what is now being played out every weekend London , the “ authorities “ condone and actively encourage this type of behaviour, look at the Met police right the way up to the very top.
Would this be the same Khan who criticised Islam and its impact of the UK.? The failure of the state is disgusting
She is amazing.
Amazing to recognise the Islamic problem?
Literally any other faith gets made fun of:
"Well we don't like it, and we don't like you, but you can say what you like."
Same scenario with the navel-length beard crowd? You get:
"OFF WITH YOUR HEAD INFIDEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
(When they have specific terminology for a religious hit job?
Yeah. That means they're not the touchy-feely kinda church.)
"literally"?
Navel-length beard crowd.
As a fan of ZZ Top I take great offence at that, and so does my own beard that has yet to reach such great lengths lol😁
You can only make people follow a grown man sleeping with a nine year old if you stop allowing them to think.
"literally"? 😏
There was an article in last week's Sunday Times comment section. This was written by a teacher who chose to remain anonymous, probably because of the Batley grammar school case.
The author wrote about how he/she asked the class how many people hated Britain and thirty hands shot up.
It made for depressing reading. To my mind there is no remedy to this. They have nearly finished their school career but have learnt nothing of their host nation. This is a lost generation who are highly unlikely to do anything positive for our country. People will say "Oh, it's a minority view" but as the teacher wrote it was a very large minority. Furthermore there is no condemnation from the supposed Islamic majority.
There is only one solution and that is to do what the Spanish did when it expelled the Moor.s Will it happen? Never.
The West had a renaissance once. It brought great art, music and cultural enrichment. We are now on course for a second renaissance that will strip all of that away. We can't complain, since 1997 we voted for it.
I didn't but I believe in democracy. I couldn't stand Blair from the outset, I thought John Smith was an honourable man but Blair was a poor successor. Still he had won a mandate and I accepted it
The trouble is, democracy only works when people care for the country. We now have increasing millions of British citizens able to vote. Soon they will have their own political party and our democratic system will be our undoing. If Labour get in Blair will be able finally to nail our coffin shut
If you are not a Muslim why are you calling him a prophet.
Because there are millions of people called Mohammed. It seems sensible to specify which one you are talking about.
@@not_ever you say the Muhammad of the Quran
@@WorkingClassPatriot1
Really? I say Brown Immortan Joe.
@@not_ever I think we would know which illiterate paedophile he meant.
@@WorkingClassPatriot1 dumb.
“Stay away from Islam”.
Who knows who I’m referring to?
You are asking all the right questions Andrew. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Blasphemy: a law to protect an all-powerful, supernatural deity from getting its feelings hurt.
I’ve never been insulted or threatened with death by hateful Satanists for not believing in their devil. Only by loving Muslims for not believing in their God and Prophet.
"The extremists will come from the West". Paraphrasing a famous Arab aristocrat.
Where was his teachers union?
Probably run by the hams.
@@susanmills4843 all the unions are on board with it! Totally corrupt, I left UCATT the builders union 20 years ago because every news letter was more interested in Palestine than builders rights!
Thanks!
Governments, whether national, or in this case, local are intimidated by islamism. I'd say that applies to the average muslim as well as they feel the pressure to conform.
No protests 10 km from schools
How can they demonstrate if a cartoon is a representation of their unproven idol if they cannot provide an example of what their chosen prophet or deity actually looks like. 🙄
You’re not allowed to show a picture of Mohamed because he was Arabian and classed as Caucasian.
😂 Yea one of the many photos existing of him
And was made up!
@@ulrichenevoldsen8371
Picture =/= photograph.
The whole world isn't made up of 13 year old zoomers, friend.
@@ephraimwinslow have you read the bible? There is a similar rule in there. Not that I care.
@@ephraimwinslow maybe not the whole world but you seem to be a zoomer
Has anyone else stopped caring about UK, Canada, and Australia?
They gave up their guns, and now it's all downhill for them. It will be a predictable and inevitable decline. It's sad, but also like watching paint dry.
Not in the least. They are our future so long as the path we go down is remaining silent. I imagine you’re American, with that you’re watching our landscape go from bad to worse in the past 15 years with more and more threats of weapon registries, magazine capacity regulation, certain stocks being illegal, gun free zones growing… these western countries are similar in age or origin and it’s as though I’m watching a train slowly come down the line directed at our values, education, and political structure - with a minority of people yelling even though the majority of people seem to agree.