RISKY MOVE… All-New 2025 Toyota 4Runner TEASED!
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- Опубліковано 28 бер 2024
- Toyota just teased the all-new 2025 Toyota 4Runner... they showed a small photo of the back hatch. The new 6th Generation Toyota 4Runner will be a stunning SUV no doubt. I have full faith in Toyota to deliver an exceptional looking vehicle. The 4Runner has become an iconic mid-sized SUV in America since it's debut in 1984. Having owned several 5th gen 4Runner TRD Pros, I can confidently tell you, it's the perfect SUV (for most people). I am nervous, however, that Toyota will do the same thing they did to the new 2024 Toyota Tacoma... first they'll slap the turbocharged 2.4L 4 cylinder motor in it, THEN move production from Japan to Mexico. The new Tacoma and new 4Runner will be built on the same TNGAF global body on frame design, and they'll undoubtedly share the same exact powertrain: 4 cylinder and 8 speed auto. What do you think? You think they'll move production to Mexico?
I personally LOVE my Japanese built vehicles. They always have top-notch quality and fit and finish. You can tell the Japanese take tremendous pride in building their vehicles. With Toyota making room for the new 2024 Land Cruiser and other vehicles in Japan, you can't help but wonder if they'll do this. The new Lexus GX550 is a part of the equation too. PS: The license plate saying JUS 282 certainly means something but I'm not digging that deep lol.
Let me know your thoughts. Do you plan to buy the all-new 2025 Toyota 4Runner? Will you wait for the TRD Pro or Trailhunter trims? Or will you get the last of the TRIED and TRUE 5th gen 4Runners? The 2024 model.
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I have recently purchased a 2024 Toyota 4Runner. And I can honestly say I appreciate not having all the fancy tech. I was looking for the absolute, best reliability SUV and they have it. I will never purchase the first year of a new platform and if I can help it, I do not want twin turbo or battery pack. More stuff to go bad that cost you a lot of money. My older model might use more gas but I’m OK with that because I know I will get many years of worry, free reliability.
Problem is the mpg and expensive oil changes etc. cost to own is high but they do have real buttons and are reliable.
I have owned and driven Toyotas for 34 years. Quite a few of those Toyotas were Land Cruisers that got used really hard, even before overlanding became popular in North America I was pushing my 60’s and 80 pretty hard entrusting their rugged durability (as well as my upkeep) to get me back to civilization. Toyota has this principle of manufacturing where the do continuous refinement and improvements over the life time of production. Thats what traditionally has made a big difference in terms of build quality and reliability. They were never cutting edge, their “tech” and powertrains were usually old school by choice. You chose a 4wd Toyota for their use of proven drivetrains and not for glitzy tech. These days every manufacturer takes the route of fancy, complicated tech to wow buyers but are creating this perfect storm of screens and garbage that will be lucky to last ten years then provide the owner with a headache of functions they can’t use or access because of failed screens. This and the jump to forced induction… yada yada, yeah turbo charging has been around for a long time, it’s gotten more reliable and better…. BUT…. No matter what they will not last as long as a good NA engine. They just won’t… and turbos won’t last the life of the engine. I know for some it’s not a concern but it’s a thing. I am curious as hell to see what the 6th gen ends up like but still feeling very content having bought a new 5th gen last fall. Where as it gets dogged on for being so old, to me it’s the most refined and perfected vehicle Toyota has made since the 200 series left the chat. And I would argue the 5th gen 4Runner is a tick higher with less issues than the two hundy. Anyway, only time will tell but absolutely enjoying the hell out of our 5th gen and am pretty certain it was the best choice for our family even if it isn’t the newest shiny object out there.
Couldn’t agree more.
I guess we should’ve stuck with horses.
Well said
I agree 100%. I have a 21 200 and my wife has a 20 4Runner. We will be keeping these for a while.
@@PSR1791I still have my donkey, and it’s reliable as a mule.
Enjoy your point of view as there are other Toyota UA-camrs that no matter what won’t say anything bad about Toyota. Toyota can add a lawn mower engine to whatever and they will still say how amazing it is. I love Toyota that’s why I’m going to buy a 2024 4Runner before it’s too late. Keep up the good work 👍
Yeah i dig Untamed because he’s true & authentic. and the other Toyota fanboys all screech about “rELiaBiLaTy!” which we all love but that’s not the end all be all. Especially when other makers have better engine options than 4 bangers
I hear ya 100%. Just picked up my 2024 t4r off road in underground.
Those same people are also proclaiming "Toyota reliability is the best" and arrogantly try to mock you. They have no evidence to make that claim when Toyota is completely changing their design philosophy. I see more evidence that Toyota quality is already tanking. Time marches on and things change. It's not the 90's anymore, they don't know what they're talking about and they're uninformed fan-boys, plain and simple.
I remember when Mitsubishi was hot stuff and seemed like they could do no wrong, look at them now.
@@JokerG16 Some youtubers are not even true toyota fanboys , they just want content on their channel. Imagine calling it reliable when you only drive it 1k miles a year 😂. TRD jon is even complaining about his new tundra and that guy is one of the biggest toyota fanboy on youtube.
@@buraian2694 LOL right! or even worst, they drive it for a week or 2. i need to check TRD Jon again. what’s wrong with his Tundra?
Toyota, in my opinion is headed towards a cliff. If they don’t get it together they will end up like all the other mediocre truck, SUV manufacturers. I’ve been a diehard fan of Toyota since 1978. They have always delivered quality, reliability & value. They need to get back to basics and back to the companies core values.
Agree
Toyota Japan or Toyota America??
epa and corperate greed the golden age of toyota has officially peaked and heading downhill
Remember when they offered the 4Runner with a V8 back in the day?...it was awesome.
I still drive daily a 2009 V8 4Runner. It has 229,764 miles as of right now when I check the odometer. I had to put some work into it last summer but well worth it. That 4.7 L V8 to that transmission is pre-stellar.
Keeping my 2024 ..making it my last 4 runner
I’ll probably be doing the same. Glad I got the last of the best generation.
I really almost bought one but my mechanic talked me out of it. Might do it anyway
@@billricheter5678they did? Why? 😂
@@dbunch904 they said the reliability is just ok and would be better off keeping my Nissan frontier. They said they are overrated and have rust issues and differential problems. Also said maintenance is fairly expensive and a few other things. I probably will still buy one since so many people love them and I like the way they drive. Mpg is a concern as is insurance. I think he has been jaded by working with tacomas and tundras which I guess are pretty unreliable now.
Buy the 5 gen..2024…rust isn’t a huge issue if you keep you car clean and maintained….dont want a 4 cylinder turbo….
Thanks for keeping us posted i new this was coming 3 years ago that’s why I purchased a 2021 4Runner TRD off road premium amazing truck the quality and pride they put into these vehicles. Let’s hope that they don’t leave Japan
I appreciate what you do. This is Great Information. Thank You.
Toyota has pretty much already stated that they will still be produced at the Tahara plant where it’s currently produced. TNGA-F is also used on the Lexus GX and Toyota Landcruiser. All BOF SUV’s are going to come out of Tahara with the exception of the Sequoia.
On point! Happy Easter✝️
It's already becoming clear.
The smart money will choose yesterday's Toyota.
I agree man. Anyone who buys a 2024 will be very happy they did come 2026… 27.
Who cares about smart money. I think they generally care about real money and seem to be doing an amazing job at that
For nearly the same money you could get a used 20~22 Lexus gx or even better a 2017 Land Cruiser. . I’d take that any day over the new 4Runner.
Toyota it's killing itself.Just like the US😅
How is that elaborate
Toyota is killing itself with a new….4Runner? No, you have it wrong. Toyota is killing it lately with a ton of new product.
If by killing them selves you mean unable to meet the demand then yes. They seem to be selling fine
Hello UT, itd be nice if you did a price model compare at a dealership on the arriving 24 Tacoma's.
spot on that Toyota prices should come down as logistic costs come down. Would be refreshing if businesses would pass on savings to their customers.
Keep dreaming. All C-suite members in USA need 3 houses. Darling daughter wants a 150k wedding, lavish vacations to Hawaii, Europe, Fiji.
How is that? The already were building 3rd gen Tacomas in Mexico and also is a new platform that required billions of dollars to develop that alone requires and increase of msrp add the all new technology to that and you get another increase of price. People here are all a bunch of ignorant old folks
@@Mr14041985 how's that you ask? Well, when you don't have to ship 4Runners from Japan on a 1 month voyage to the US and can just drive them up from Mexico, then logistics cost go down you stupid fuck. Labor costs go down too as Mexican workers not near as expensive as Japanese workers...did you forget that too?
@@Mr14041985Yup
Great analysis! I especially liked your point about people missing the old reliable V6 after Toyota moves to a turbo 4-cylinder. I can definitely see that happening with the 4Runner too. Maybe there will be a strong used market for the 2024 4Runner?
When it is coming to states? 2025?
4Runner price prediction - $43,000 (SRS 2WD) - $65,000 (TRD Pro/Trailhunter). Land Cruiser 250 price - $56,000 (1958) - $68,000 (LC trim). Yes, the top trim 4Runners will be roughly the same price as the new LC trim. They will have the same powertrain and the LC is the overland focused rig while the 4Runner will be the rock crawler off roader rig.
I’m reserve judgement till the full reveal comes out but you have a great point about the Mexico build site. Very disappointing move from Toyota. Why are the prices so high for Toyota right now (over last 3 years) when the operating overhead is presumably low in MX?
Think it will be a bust for most people, EPA restrictions forced them to changed the engine not by choice and with the unknows of its reliability in the long run and as this a truck/suv not a daily car commuter. The 6th gen will go against the core principles of the 5th gen that people come to love, 6th Gen will appeal to new generations of buyers of cheap tech thrills and with a city commuter refined driving experience with a overprice tag as we have seen with the Tacoma.
I don't think the EPA has that much power. Dodge still has the Ram Rebel & TRX
The rule was that if the vehicle actually changed and was completely new redesign, the engine would need to conform with the latest emissions standard. The loophole is that you just keep using the same underpinnings like the frame and suspension- and technically you can change the cab design while keeping the same old engines- that's what Dodge does in my opinion- refreshes, without being full redesign. Toyota sort of did it with the Tundra Gen 2.
oboma started this epa mandates years ago (dictator). now biden is pushing more restrictions and mandates(force). this is all trying to get the population to ditch gas (there is enough for thousands of years) so we can all buy ev . the junk vehicles you have to pay top dollar for.
@@MegaCityOneYou absolutely don't even know what you're talking about.
@@mattb9664That's not accurate. Maybe for the HD, but not the DT 1500.
Untamed and Company, I could use some real world 4runner advice. My fam is considering nabbing one of these final 5th gens. Narrowed it down to the Offroad Premium, Offroad Premium with KDSS, or the TRDPro. Resale value is meaningful, though we do keep vehicles for the long term. Mostly on-road and light trail performance prioritized. No major offroading or modification intended at this time (perhaps mods in future), but we like to have serious get-out-of-a-jam capability just in case. How would you rate these three options?
FWIW- have been hearing pretty strong rumors that the 4Runner production is staying in Japan.
I have heard this too as Mexico allocated production is already tapped out. Which would lend itself to the idea this is more 250 series related than Tacoma.
@@Kristian_Saile So what's the win? It will be a 2.4l i-Force MAX Hybrid.... The looney powertrain is the biggest problem with Toyotas new direction.
What I love about this guys is… he’s HONEST ..he could easily sell us a dream ..but he’s honest about his opinion
I recently traded my 2016 SR5 Premium for a new TRD ORP. Glad I did!
When do you think they’ll announce the 6th gen? I’m hoping by latest summer. Then I’ll make my decision to wait or grab 5th gen. Can’t really go wrong getting a 5th gen, keeping it for at least two years, and then see if it’s worth trading in after kinks are ironed out. The resale will be great and these generations are what built Toyotas name and reliability.
You're asking him as if he's some magic genie? He doesn't know.
I agree with you on all points, time will have the final word!!
Thanks man.
Amen to that… 🙏🏼
Do you ever regret getting rid of your Land Cruiser Heritage Edition. I have a 2018 4Runner now, but I would love to have the Land Cruiser Heritage Edition that you had.
Not when I did. Sold it for the maximum I ever could have… values have been slumping ever since. I’ll buy another one someday. =]
IMHO, Toyota has always offered "reduce the stress in your life" vehicles. They're moving away from that now.
I’m with you on that 👌
Glad I bought my 23 Trd pro solar octane I would say the new under ground Trd pro and solar octane and voodoo blue will be the most desirable of the 5th generation in colors
I like the badging! There will be a roll down rear window!
And make the front seat more comfortable with more adjustments!
I’m intrigued to see how each new generation pans out with time, 2-3 years, but mainly mileage. I know there is some guy out right now with a 24 Tacoma, trying to hit milestones as fast as possible. My ‘22 with 87K miles is proving amazing and that’s why I bought. Inherently curious if a ‘24 could do that in
Had 2019 Nightshade edition. Seemed to have a few gremlins. A high pitch whistling sound we couldn't figure out where it was coming from. Blue tooth phone call conversations were almost impossible to hear, just garbled and crackling sound quality. Not great quality for a $60k vehicle. We traded it for Sequoia TRD Pro and it's been pretty good other than some minor issues. Unusual tread wear on one tire only. Plastic piece on the roof with sunglass holder detached itself from the roof. I got a 2019 Tundra Sport. Just have squeeling brakes and "contamination" in my tranny fluid according to the dealership mechanic.
They are about to ruin the 4Runner just as they did with Tundra and Tacoma! RIP
yep turbos.
And Sequoia, and some lexus models.
Don’t forget the tow hooks!
The biggest question/ concern here is will it still have the roll down rear window 😅, I truly hope they always keep that option
I’d be shocked if they did away with that. They kept it in the Tundra after all. =]
But not the Sequoia… hmm 🤔
Not a big deal tbh. Rarely used it
Don’t underestimate Toyota, I still have confidence in Toyota than any other automaker out there. People used to bash 1998 Prius Hybrid but my 2002 has been as reliable as any Toyota vehicle I’ve seen driving. Toyota is good at willing to fix if things aren’t right.
I just hope they got rid of the oversized storm trooper grill. The first year model should be okay. I'm still driving my 2003 V6 with the rare aggressive fenders. It's never given me any problems. Just basic maintenance for 20 years.
What a “click bait” headline. How is the new 4-runner risky?! What in the hell? It’s what all enthusiasts wanted. Toyota will soon have every niche of the suv/crossover market covered, which is great for the consumer. The judgement over a teaser shot is just wild.
What's going to happen with the Mexico built 4Runner is that you're going to have latent defects and quirks that don't affect longevity of the truck, but really are just unresolved and annoying to the customer.
I drove a Mexico built 2nd gen Tacoma V6 for 9 years- and every year during the cold-to-warm and warm-to-cold transition where you might have freezing in the morning and 50ish weather after work, my truck to do the hard-start (like a GM in a horror movie) without actually starting 1-2 times for the season- and then it would start up on next attempt. Then it wouldn't repeat ever for the rest of the transition season. Totally ignored and unresolved because it didn't hurt the engine. Those trucks also had a pinging noise at 3k RPM in hot weather if you were hauling anything heavy- which they tried to ECU-flash fix for the 2012-2015 folks, but didn't for anyone else. I would just temporarily use 93 and it would resolve that way, but no mention of that from Toyota. Another minor one- my door cards also weren't built the same- they all had some lazy, sonic-welds- they were way overtacked together, so I forgot about upgrading that crappy pokadot cloth armrest. Looked fine outside though quality-wise. Oh, and the door seals were pretty terrible- they would tap and rattle in cold weather- and if you got the cab warm, and then sat in the truck while the cab cooled, you could actually hear the door seal contracting.
You're going to have ankle-biter quality issues that annoy the customer, but aren't going to be detrimental to longevity of the vehicle. We'll see with that 4 cylinder turbo though...
It will be an easier decision about LC vs 4R if production moves to Mexico.
I love how people equate Mexico with poor quality. But American built cars, which routinely have recalls aren’t mentioned. When I was in my 20’s, people regarded Japanese built cars the same way. Notice a trend? Half my family is Chinese, so I encounter similar kinds of…well, you can guess. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
I'm Toyota biased, but with that disclosed, I'm baffled by the logic that Toyota is placing their entire reputation at risk due to motors being turbo charged, hence more complicated. I think it's fair to say they did their research. I am on my second Toyota tt and have been very satisfied. I get the nostalgia, but to now infer that Toyota may be throwing it all away by going away from the V8. I'm old enough to have been around when the 22R was introduced and then discontinued. It was a magnificent motor, I remember a neighbor buying the new six cylinder Tacoma Extended cab 4x4, everybody saying they won't hold up etc etc. He put over 400k on that truck. There are plenty of old V8 trucks out there for those that want them, and everything, including vehicles, costs more now. I'm pretty sure time will prove the 3.44 tt to be like most everything Toyota makes, excellent. I've been driving them since 2018. As for "they are no better on fuel than the V8." My previous LX got 14 mpg, period. My new averages a little over 19 mpg. So, to say 35 percent changes, my life would be a stretch, but 35 percent is 35 percent. To each their own but to bash a platform because it's not a V8 makes no sense to me. If you don't want it, find a V8. I'll put the current LX build quality against any vehicle being produced right now.
The only reason some Toyotas have been reliable is they don’t change anything for 20 plus years.
V6 hybrid would be a perfect engine for this SUV.
I never understood why people buy a new car for all the new tech. Most all of the new tech can be added to any model yourself. The new turbos are the deal breaker for me know longer will we see maintenance free toyoats going forever. For people that don't keep there cars very long it's not a issue but to the ones who keep there toyotas for 15-20+ years it will be. Replacing the turbos once you get around 120,000 miles+ will be costly a expense that was not there before hand and lets not forget the stupid auto/start stop to wear your engine out quicker.
I still have my 1997 Tacoma the hybird garagbe will never last 27 years without being replaced. Just bought a 23 4runner and 2019 V8 tundra. I could have bought the newer models but no thanks toyota.
Self driving can’t be added.
@@trumptookthevaccine1679 sure it can.
@@trumptookthevaccine1679 luv all the libs that fell for it and defend the myo C juice.
@@David9726100One ignoramus indeed (you are)...
@@David9726100 lol how do you add self driving to my 2022 Toyota sienna?
I think it will stay 6. Since the land cruiser seems to be more on the taco engine. Toyota other than sequoia doesn’t have a 6. Since gx is twin turbo. They can do single turbo 6.
Keeping my 5th gen or trading it in for a preowned LX570. No desire for this 6th gen. Probably not fair for me to say that cause we haven’t even seen yet.
If Toyota is being "forced" to go to 4cyl turbo because of the EPA standards, how does Nissan get away with still pumping out V6 Frontiers? Does Nissan pay fines or penalties for still manufacturing V6 na motors in their vehicles?
They’re not better by forced. They’re just incentivized less to keep larger displacement options. 👍
My sources in Japan have told me that the 4Runner is going to continue to be built in Japan and the new generation will still have the rolldown rear window.
David from Automotive Press feels the Mexico plant is at its max capacity so I’m hoping it stays in Japan
I think it was TFL showed the Ford. Ranger, smoke the Toyota. And I own a Toyota.
I am starting to think that Tundra will be in your fleet for a long time. Seems like it’s already been the driveway twice as long as the average acquisition!
I think that there are plenty of 4.0 4Runners out there that people can maintain and overhaul. Another point in favor of the 4.0 is that not many people live up in the mountains where the 4.0 loses its potency.
The weight of Toyota is behind the mass production of the 2.4L turbo. We will have plenty of time of that engine in other platforms like the Tacoma and Land Cruiser ahead of 4Runner.
Buy a ‘24 4Runner TRD Off Road Premium and don’t worry about needing another vehicle for at least 10 years. I got $3500 off sticker (plus $750 from Toyota on window sticker)
It really comes down to value proposition, the US prado is way overpriced, the sequioa has an atrocious cargo area and it seems like each of these models have some fatal flaw. For example, the sequioas cargo area, the lack of a V6 in the LC and lockers not being available on base GX trims. Thee new Armada is more interesting at this point.
Seems to me a lot of the same people complaining about how Toyota is leaning too much towards tech and fancy gadgets are the same ones saying that the 5th gen is an outdated dinosaur. While I agree that Toyota has kept things simple beautifully, regulations and new climate laws are forcing their hand
Exactly what I say, there is always something dumb to say😂
@@Mr14041985Precisely.
If honda can make the new pilot trailsport a v6 then so can toyota and their 4 runner. I have no idea why toyota would do this.
And the Titan and Armada still run a NA V8!
just a matter of time for honda 😁
@@derekcapitano5257not the next armada, titans getting axed
@@derekcapitano5257You are obviously asleep and pay attention to nothing around you.
not sure about Nissan but Honda’s (and Acura as well) engines specifically the v6 are all direct injection.. buyer beware 60-80k miles down the road with carbon buildup issues. At least the toyos are both port and direct injected
Based on the 1958 trim of the Land Cruiser, the basic 4Runner will be very stripped down too. Maybe two door option. Def Mexico. Mexico Toyotas can get to market a month faster than Japanese ones.
You're so full of it. The ignorant dunderheads all over these comment sections continually highlight the digression in the US education.
None of that drivel makes any iota of sense nor is occuring. Just be quiet.
Toyota is on the same path as Boeing. Both companies were known as Quality 1st companies, overshadowed and plagued by bad business decisions based on prioritizing shareholder profit.
New Toyotas are no more reliable than other brands but what sets Toyota apart from others is that once they sort out the bugs, the cars become reliable and problems reduces. Other brands especially Ford appears to struggle with ironing out bugs
I understand the quality control concerns. With so much automation on the assembly line how much of a role does a human play in the area of QC? I assume the robots, etc would be the same regardless of which country the car is built in. Additionally, my guess is that Toyota would / does employ a lot of management that have the Toyota way burned into them and would enforce it amoung the Mexican employees. I know historically we all wanted a vehicle built in Japan but do we really know how much of a difference there is today between the two with so much automation?
So to your point with the old vs new and the values of the old version…we’ve all being saying more fuel economy, more gears, more tech, then once’s it’s delivered we’re like, no no no not now, then we want the old again.
Landcruiser looking like a way better option. I don't think it's even close!
Not going to botch it!? The Celica has entered the chat.
Haha 😂
Toyota is emphasizing sustainability 101, build solid power trains, everything else smoke & mirrors, pump up: MSRP, warranty cost, labor cost at dealerships hence more profit per unit. This business model benefits Toyota not consumers. 😢
Where is the Land Cruiser made?
Made in Japan 👍
3:41 .. NO , they are NOT going to get it " right " with that BS 4 banger Turbo !!
4Runner production is not moving to Mexico, there is no capacity at the Tacoma plant for another vehicle.
Will the average truck tuber own any of these new trucks long enough to experience real reliability?
FLT will keep their Tacoma for 3-4 years, put 50k and claim it’s the most reliable Tacoma ever built.
I’m a recovering Toyota Fanboy but this is not the same company making the same decisions based on sound mechanical engineering. The EPA is designing the modern automobile based on the nothing.
More parts, more systems, more electronics. 👎
Ramon and jaiden agree buy 24
We should get a choice to buy a simple horse in the US like the 2024 toyota land cruiser 70 pickup and the station wagon. But the US government does not allow it for some reason. Those cars are very simple without computers and electronics.
i'd expect it to be built in tahara along with gx and land cruiser(prado). remember that tacoma and tundra are made for the U.S. market. hilux is their global market pickup.
it's also unlikely these will have many issues for 12-15 years if well cared for like toyotas of the past. will they last 25-30? it'll be a long time until we really know. i wouldn't sweat it. get yourself an internal combustion now if you can't sleep at night with a turbo on your vehicle. as always, watch out for the first few model years if you want to keep it a long time. most importantly, maintain your toyota and prevent it from rusting out and i bet it'll treat you well for a long time.
The new Tacoma is very underwhelming in the metal( should say in the plastic)
It looks smaller than it actually is and lacks presence compared to the previous model.
The killer is its ridiculous staring price
The new 4 runner will be similar
The current 4Runner has more presence in the metal.
It will be turbo charged 2l with hybrid! LOL
I drove by a GX 550 Overtrail yesterday and it was a lighter moon dust color. It looked really cool.
6th Gen 4Runner wise Automotive Engineer (I believe) analyzed the picture and believes the roll down back window is still there with >50% certainty
I would be interested in the new 4runner if it had the GX engine.
Moving to a "turbo" platform from the straight V6 in the case of Toyota (as w/the Tundra/Tacoma) is a horrible idea when you consider it's only being done for 1 -3 mpg (city/hwy) improvement. What you get with the turbo platform is the opportunity of buying a $50k+ untested vehicle. Why untested? From the get/go you know you'll be losing engine/trans torque, but what you don't know is how forcing that engine with the turbo over time (engine compression) will affect longevity/maintenance/repair$$. Also, a turbo will only last with proper maintenance 140k miles (that's it). Looking at the number of turbos on the Toyota lot (Tundra/Tacoma) the truck buyer at this point doesn't seem to want them at all. When you consider a V6 turbo for a full sized F150 or Ram 1500 can be had for almost 1/2 the price right now yep... 1/2 the price (like options) - what is Toyota thinking? Toyota trucks (monthly inventory), is approaching a very high number (nationwide) second only to Ford (TRUCK - lot rot) . OUCH - Toyota, a very bad business move to-date. Want a high quality straight six and still thinking? No brainer... buy the 2024.
That’s quite the write up there, turbo.
Thanks donut dude@@macscvelopopperdonuts2169
I would hesitate on buying a new 4Runner. I own a 5th gen 4Runner and have had no problems at all in 6 years.
Toyota might not be new to "the game" of turbo 4's but what IS new is they aren't building these new cars with the same quality and care as they have in the past.
My expectations are under the basement for this 4Runner…
I highly doubt 4Runner moves to Mexico. Those two plants are tapped out.
Don’t forget, I’ll buy your tundra if you sell:)
I have faith in Toyota over other manufacturers like GM to do turbo charging right and make it reliable but only time will tell. However, I don’t have any faith at all in anything hybrid because the battery will always be a weak point that will inevitably cost thousands to replace and it just adds way too much electrical complication and possible fail points. I may be in the minority for Toyota fans because I really hate how gutless the Tacoma and 4runner have always been so I am actually looking forward to the new turbo in the runner as long as it’s not hybrid and as long as that rear window rolls down I’ll be buying one. 😂
Hello
Just like we didn't need a new gen Tacoma. We don't need a new gen 4Runner.
Oh shut up, utter drivel.. You all are some knuckleheads, bereft of any understanding in terms of the automotive industry.
youre garand thumb of the truck world
I wouldn’t be so quick to say that they won’t screw it up… I know we don’t have a lot to work with, but if you ask me it looks like the quality of the new 6th gen is on a downward trend. Even just the bumper shot looks like cheap plastic. And if you look at the interior of the new Tacoma it’s the same thing. All I can say is I’m glad that I got a 2024.
Toyota is relying on its fanbase (or "fan boys and girls") to promote the new designs while neglecting the shortcomings. Removing the V8 from the 4Runner in 2009 was a disappointment for me, and now they've added a new Land Cruiser positioned between the 4Runner and the Lexus GX. I'm not optimistic about the upcoming 2025 4Runner, which is why I opted for a 2023 TRD ORP. In my opinion, the 4Runner has been the most versatile SUV ever built by a car manufacturer. Let's see if Toyota can maintain this legacy or miss the mark.
Toyota is pute junk anymore not like they used to be, I had a 2004 toyota corolla with 275,000 miles on it, and id go to hell and back with that car, best car I ever had.
I had a 2005 Corolla...long story short was on cross country road trip and was running behind schedule. We were in Vancouver and had to get back to NY. Booked it driving 48hrs straight. Stopped just for gas, 15 min stretch breaks, restrooms, switch up drivers. No hotels, no sit down restaurants and virtually ran the car 48hrs over 3000± mile cruising at 75-85mph. Started right the day after we got home and went on yo work as a usual Monday!
The 24 4runner is the last real Toyota rip to this company now they’re like everyone else no more v8s no more million miles vehicles
The TRD PRO will be around 62k to 64k. If they came with the new Taco seats, Fox shocks, and ARB rear bumper. I think it will be made in Canada. Since NX is making in Canada and Mexico is max out in their production.
I would go for this if it had the GX engine. Not really interest 4 banger
Fox shocks aren’t good.
You have no proof of that inane theory and pulled it out of your arse.
Canada is not building any body on frame Toyota products and never has. You couldn't even be bothered to verify basic facts, before making (ignorant) speculation.
I only buy used. Buying new is for people making 250k or more. Pay off your house. They botched the sequoia and the tundra. New land cruiser is smaller than the previous… I’m 6’2” it’s to small.
Tbh that’s no longer true. Used cars actually cost more in many cases than new if you negotiate well. If you get used you lose the warranty, need new tires and other maintenance immediately. Used use to be better, often not now.
rear bumper is gonna be plastic.. what is toyota thinking
We only know what 10% of the car looks like and I already don't like it.
Exactly people are fucking dumb, also regarding the drivetrain they act like if hybrids are a new thing for Toyota they had been making the most reliable hybrid for decades in the Prius
no J in the vin# - pass
Definitely not buying if it is made in Mexico
Every comment I have read
“Those letters suck and gotta go”
Me: I agree. Looks like an “equity equality” hire designed it.
I have learned the magic of a heat gun and fishing line. It works great on removing badges
Not surprising seeing dim ~ witted commentary from your handle as usual. Typical of a dimwit.
I keep thinking about how many people will be removing those 4 runner letters on the back. The new Toyota line up across the board is horrible. Ugly and overpriced. Hopefully they don’t screw the 4 runner up
Go away and buy something else then.
Toyota dealership are the main reason ive left this brand, they are the worse .
Agree, I have seen the same thing. Arrogant and dishonest
No thanks on the 6 gen. I bought 5th gen just because I don’t believe the new engine will go 200k plus miles. I will not be Toyotas test dummy on my dime. Sure, lots of power but will it last?
No way I would buy the first two years of a new model.
I understand the fustrations with the turbo charging and hybridization of vehicles. However, I think Toyota wants to play the long game here. By the time all other companies also switch to more turbo charged vehicles, as they already are, in a couple years, we will have more refined engines, and Toyota hybrids are very well known to exceed a whole lot of miles/KMs. As for the 4Runner, I think production will stay in Japan, hopefully, and the rear roll down window will stay, as they may have purposefully hid the window.