Fuji GFX 100 II vs Hasselblad X2D + Sample files
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- At $7500 vs $8200, these two 102mp cameras are obvious rivals, and whilst they share a mini medium format sensor, they are also quite different. Let's compare their portrait performance and image quality.
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So I watched this video to hear some opinions on the image quality comparisons and I've heard everything besides that. Thanks
Yes, probably he is trying to avoid the controversy, but I don't like it, I understand it, but the one of us who are subscribers and users of Matt's learning platforms would love to have his opinion. It could highlight differences that we don't see if they are not pointed to us.
Did you check the sample files?
@@mattgranger sample raws you gave us sucks not a proper comparison
@@mattgranger I did. Thanks. It's more that we would love to have your opinion. I understand people will talk, but it's something I miss.
Agreed. It's another informercial. Buy whichever camera you like depending on your preferences. No one wants to piss off the camera manufacturers.
An image quality comparison without commentary on the image quality? Hmm... That's what I came here for.
Thanks for the Samples I really appreciate when someone provides them
No problem!
Especially since they are real world examples and not of a beach chair that looked like a misfired shot.
I have the GFX 100ii coming in today for three shots next week so I'm a bit worried about the lockup you described. I had forgotten that my XT5 did the same thing on a shot last Saturday so I'm wondering if it's only triggered when using flash. I'll test that out for both.
For landscape work, which one has superior focus bracketing capture and processing? Thanks.
I don't own either camera, but always watch for your commentary!
I would love to know your thoughts on how the viewfinder experiences were between the two since they’re both quite high resolution
Not making an account for sample files. I'm also a bit surprised that you didn't share your opinion about the image quality at all. Did I miss a segment? Otherwise the video had some good information and all (very much agree about the exceptional haptics on the Hasselblad cameras btw.). But I feel the main thing, the title why I clicked on this, isn't really in it.
Fuji uses are vicious haha. I left that up to viewer taste
@@mattgranger Weird assumption but ok ... I still own a GFX50R but XCD is my main system. I'm not here for or against a brand, I commented to give you feedback about your content. And as a viewer clickbait is not something I desire.
An ‘assumption’ based on plenty of first handle experience. Of course it’s not the majority.
I hear all the positives and advantages of the Fuji and then I see the photos of the Hassleblad and the skin tones and colors just wow me and pretty much negates all of the advantages of the Fuji for me. Now I just have to figure out how to pay for the lenses...
about the banding on speed 1/250 and up, did you set the Flash Sync terminal setting into FP mode?
The flashes I was using were not capable of high speed sync
Very interesting comparison, Matt! A bit disheartening to hear about the multiple Fuji lockups, though I hope it's an issue isolated to that particular body. My BIG question though, concerns image sharpness and detail...In your opinion, which system provides better sharpness? Thanks, and Happy Holidays sir!
Reading the comments, it is not isolated to this camera, or even the GFX range sadly.
It’s impossible to say one system is sharper - depends on the specific lenses used. I would say the reduced vibration, and amazing ibis, make it easy to get crisp images with the x2d.
@@mattgranger That's good to know, Matt! Though I'm currently commited to the Nikon Z System, I've always admired Hasselblad and Fujifilm, and since I came from the Fujifilm X-System, will continue research into those systems, especially Hasselblad, to see exactly what print size would show any advantage of medium format . I appreciate your expert information! Thank you sir.
Nice to hear that since my X-H1, Fuji still freezing with external triggers mounted to hot shoe.
Yeah, that is an annoying thing that happens with Fuji, the 100 and 100s suffer the same problem. Imo, if you own a 100/100s I don't think the mark ii is a worthy upgrade.
Sorry to hear it’s happening on other models
Hey Matt what brand of triggers are you using on both cameras?
Pocketwizard
Hi Matt! Not sure if you were sharing same sd card, but my xt5 is completely locking up just like yours if my sd card has canon photos on it. (It won’t turn off either)
Nope never. I always format in camera
Darn it!!! I wished I didn't see this. I was wanting to do a flower series very very similar to this URGH.
I'm still going to do it but I wished I didn't have it in the back of my head that it's been done recently. Great vid as always.
Cheers.
I know how you feel, I’m sure you’ll make something great 👍🏼
If nothing else you convinced me that I got the right camera when I bought the X2D. It has not failed in a year.
Sorry to hear about troubles with the GFX100II, I've had mine for a month now and can report no issues so far. I'd be pretty annoyed and disappointed to see my 15k investment malfunctioning!
Looking at the comments it seems pretty
Common, but I’m glad you dodged it!
I don't mean to pile on, but I am baffled by the lack of commentary on the image quality of these cameras. Thanks for the samples, but I tuned in to see what a pro photographer's impressions are. I do appreciate the comparison to the build quality and feel and autofocus capacities of the cameras, but these are secondary considerations for me.
Which camera has better lenses?
I have done 3 shoots 2 with flash and 1 on streets and have not had any lock ups with my GFX100ii. That is a bummer it happened.
Enjoy!
Make certain your card is on the Fujifilm recommended list. I’ve had issues using not recommended cards in the GFX100 II. Build wise I’m sure the Hasselblad is a bit better… but the Fujifilm is nonetheless well made. Video wise… welp hassy doesn’t do video. AF wise… oh dear. I could go on. Anywho…
Yep, I have a more complete comparison coming. There are many points where the Fuji dominates
I would like to see a comparison on the color science.
me to but as always Matt can't do proper image RAW sample comparison, the ones he provides always are bad and not something you can use todo side by side
I have a GFX 100 and have the same problem: it may freeze. Solved by removing the battery. Sometimes the date and time may reset. The latest firmware is 5.1
Sucks
@@mattgrangerI think it’s a risk of spending $7,500 on medium format camera that froze in the middle of the photoshoot. Absolutely sucks!!!! I’ll take the hasselblad which I think more reliable than the Fuji if I could just afford any of these ridiculously an expensive medium format cameras. Nice review Matt.
depands on the flash brand name you use profoto a10 gives u an execptional strobe shots
hard to beat Hasselblad's color science. Best camera for those who can afford it
Nice❤
On my 100s, it locks up when I don’t use proper v90 Sdcards.
The face is only at 2:13 it's such a beautiful picture, same for the face only rest. The image quality of the cameras are amazing. Fuji needs to fix the freezes, even more so that turning off the machine does not work either. Hasselblad, on the other hand, has to improve the AF performance, and where is the 90mm ? 😂Build quality: the Hasseblad is a work of Art.
Thanks for the comparison Matt. As a long time Fujifilm and, more recently, Hasselblad user - as a piece of design ergonomics in the hand, the X2D is head and shoulders above the GFX. Regarding the prices of the lenses, I think Hasselblad is just charging a premium full stop. The 45P is an affordable lens with a leaf shutter, so the leaf shutter does not explain why the Hasselblad lenses are so expensive. Arguably, Hasselblad is going after the Leica market and that's the basis for their pricing strategy.
Certainly premium pricing. Thankfully not as high as Leica!
That is a pretty strong point. The 28mm f/4 has the 1/4000 leaf shutter. Even so I would not say it's not a part. One has to develop the shutters and mounting a delicate electromecanical device inside each lens has to have a cost.
Loss leader 45mm
Can you comment on how the autofocus systems on both cameras work in low-light situations?
The thing I know is the autofocus of x2d is absolutely not working if the exposure is not well-set
He can’t. He would have to say something negative about Hasselblad, and positive about Fuji. So that’s a non starter.
The GFX 100II autofocus blows the Hasselblad out the water. Thats why it is not mentioned in the video.
Both my Xt4 and Xh2 lock up. Pretty frustrating…but I still love fuji…i call it FujiTude fuji attitude 😂🎉
Sorry to hear that. Careful, you may be accused of being a liar and biased for sharing your experience 😉
@@mattgranger Nah, you're legit, I trust your vids...keep 'em coming
I own 2 Fuji xh2 cameras and one locks up and the other is fine
That sucks!
Why are the file sizes different. File B0008691 is 93MP and file DSC0108 is 66.8MP??? I own a GFX 100 II and the file dimensions are 11648 x8736 = 102MP.
Yep, you got a dud. Have been using both cameras in this video for months, and have never experienced the issues with the Fuji you had. Also, when doing a comparison like this, I think it would be more helpful if you used the same settings and focal length. For example, both have a 120mm macro lens.
I don’t have access to every lens. These were the closest I could get.
Good comparison. I have owned Hasselblad cameras for over 10 years. Originally the H series and then shifted to the X almost as soon as they came out. I have the X1D, X1Dii and the X2D. Obviously, Hasselblad has made significant progress as they have progressed through the models but one annoying facet of all 3 of the X series cameras is when shooting in portrait mode on a tripod. The cameras often just flake out: stop working, screen goes black but camera still fires, throws a lens error or variety of other issues. When this happens it obviously forces you to stop what you're doing and spend time getting the camera running again. I have sent issue after issue to Hasselblad but they just don't seem to care - maybe it's the DJI influence. Wondering if you have experienced this issue. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my Hasselblad cameras in spite of the issues - nothing compares!
Hey thanks for the feedback, I’ve never heard this before, certainly never experienced it. What response have you had from them?
They don't seem to be interested. Considering this is consistent across all 3 models there is something wrong. I think, after experiencing these problems, it is related to the case. It's machined out of aluminum which is not the strongest metal and I think they experience some slight warping which puts a circuit card or connector into stress. I owned a tech company for many years and this sort of issue was pretty common if you didn't design/test for it.
Hi Mate, I am still curious to know what response you have had. Seeing I have never heard of this issue from any user before, yet you had it on all 3 models, either it is extremely statistically rare case that you got three lemons, or perhaps it is some specific combination of elements that are somehow unique to your shooting process.
(I dont say that to diminish your experience or discount it at all. But I get a LOT of feedback from users about errors. So being this is the first I am hearing of it, and its 3 cameras from one user, it is unusual).
How often do you shoot your X2D? I use mine a lot and it doesn't happen all the time, just when you really need a working camera. Then you have to stop, disconnect the lens or cycle power and go at it again. It actually happened to me yesterday while shooting a portrait (in portrait orientation on a tripod) and the screen blacked out and then once I got the screen back on it started throwing lens errors. Look I'm not bad mouthing the camera. I LOVE my X2D and its predecessors but these things occur with much higher frequency than any of my other cameras. Hasselblad makes a big deal out of "Handmade". I have had a lot of experience fabricating electronics and give me a robot every day (and twice on Sunday). Robots a extremely accurate, never have a bad day and do exactly what they are told to do. I understand that Hasselblad probably isn't big enough to afford robotic assemble lines which means they have to do a lot more QA and testing.
All the time.
My GFX100 need to format the SD card by Camera, then no more hang again
I always format cards in camera
With Fujifilm GFX 100 II you use strong continuous studio light and your speed in going to be fine.
The major disadvantage that I am not able to ignore on the Hasselblad''s side is: no Capture One support, therefore the Hasselblad will not be a considerable option for me.
Continuous is not a substitute for full power flash. You’d burn the studio down haha 😂
@@mattgranger 5-10 years ago you would have been right. continuous studio light has gotten much better though. Many pros use it exclusively now, because it has many advantages over flash. Many use a combination of continuous light and reflectors.
Hi thank for the review. As Fuji GFX owner since GFX 50S (I had GFX 100 and now GFX 100II), I only had freeze on GFX 100 with firmware 4.0 but with latest 5.10 no lock up. My GFX 100 II didn't had lock up yet, worth mention I don't use Performance mode as I feel it may feel lock ups. Sucks you had on yours. Thanks for the review!
I had the 100 and the 100s - both would freeze and lock up from time to time (not as often as you experienced but occasionally enough. I just learnt to remove the battery). I had 2 100 and 1 100s (all 3 would do it).
…. That sucks
It did. I also too have the X2d now and played around a bit with the X1D and X1D II. Its my first Hassy and I do very much enjoy it. To me its the GFX 50R and 100 in one. Where when I had the 100, also had the 50R as the user shooting experience is very different btw the two.
I do miss the AF from the GFX but I used to shoot with an Mamiya RZ and the X2D MF, large viewfinder, rear screen and the three focusing options (zoomed in, the arrow system (much like a split prism of the RZ, line it up, and my favorite - focus peaking) has me using manual focus again. Which has also meant that my process has slowed down and I'm really looking at the image I'm creating more while shooting - which is mainly portraits/fashion @@mattgranger
Hi I have GFX 100 and 50S. I had one lock up on GFX 100 with firmware 4.00 after I updated 4.22 (last year) never had lockup. Lock up happened to me with EVF tilt and performance mode on . But since then no lock up and its super stable. Probably people need to update their GFX
Matt, in your videos you keep saying that the gfx 100 ii has “the same sensor” as the X2D and the 100/s. Please read better the Fuji presentation: it’s a BRAND NEW SENSOR, although with the same pixel count!!!
it's not new unfortunately..only new processor.
@@simonomis5246 Well here you find what Fujifilm writes in own homepage: "GFX100 II brings a new 102-megapixel sensor “GFX 102MP CMOS II HS” with a readout speed that is about two times faster than GFX100S. Combined with X-Processor 5, GFX100 II is able to achieve a high continuous frame rate of up to 8fps, surgically accurate AF, and advanced video features that have never before existed in any previous GFX System or X Series camera." So as you see it's not just a new processor, but also a NEW SENSOR. Unless, of course, Fujifilm is lying (which I don't believe).
Parts are new. But the imaging component are the same. It’s only the parts affecting readout that are changed, not those recording the image.
You’ll note they do not say BRAND new.
It’s like keeping the engine etc, changing the gearbox, and saying it’s a new drivetrain… kind of, but not really.
They also call it large format 😂
I had to send in a 100s two times because of the electronics. The image quality is outstanding but the build quality isn't good vs. my Nikon equipment - not to speak about my old Hasselblad mechanics (I cannot compare it to the digital ones)
I also had lock ups with the gfx 100s
My GFX100 sometimes lost the date and time when I changed batteries, sent it back three times they couldnt fix it
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That's very disappointing that the GFX 100 II kept locking up. It makes me much more nervous about buying one.
You realize that Granger tested a pre-production review copy, right? Serious reviewers mention that, but I guess you can't expect _too_ much in this case.
@@el_fucko yeah, but tbh it happens once in a while with my xt-3, I hope they fixed that for the gfx that is now on the market
Which is the sole purpose of this video. To steer possible GFX buyers towards Hasselblad. Ive been using two 100s and now the 100II without even a single lockup in two years.
Shame on Fuji. My 100s does lock up once in a while. Usually after low speed continuous burst. But sometimes it just does it without. It’s not that bad. But what you experienced is unacceptable.
My GFX100ii doesnt lock up at all, thats a horrible fault to have
Glad to hear that. Reading people’s comments, it seems random. Some users own two cameras, one freezes and the other doesn’t. 🤷
1/250 sec is a perfect normal sync speed for a mechanical shutter. 1/320 for mechanical shutter on small chip is also a normal speed. If you want faster speeds use hs sync like elinchrom has. But for 95% of studio work 1/250 is fast enough.
Yep, but both these cameras will no doubt be used out of studio too
(with Hong Kong accent) you want to pay less? huh? no pay no joy... !! remember if you no pay enough money, camera freeze huh? you must pay more money to get camera wok well!! Also FujiFilm no go to Moon, Hasselblad go!! This is why cost money!! what kind of a comment is this?? huh? you want free camera? then freeze multiple times! there is no free lunch - never!! Lemembel that!! Thank you for video Matt... very useful!! huh!! plus FujiFilm no sexy camera!! Hassy very very sexy!! My wife jealous!! This is why I don't have one..! But I want it... without hassy no beautiful naked model... this is why Fuji frozen (yogurt)! Always take out battery!! Always!
Why sometimes your comparison raw just are really bad? like no proper side by side, only one pic is half decent to compare others one just random and not to compare to other camera, not the first time seeing this
I guess I’m inconsistent and imperfect
@@mattgranger yep, but i think you just dont care
In this case I’m limited what samples I can share, they can’t include nudity.
@@mattgranger We dont need nudity we can always get that from other sites, but we just want proper comparison samples
Do you really need this high end cameras and test them in a mediocre test like this? What's the point? Just terrible
I spend 12min of my life waiting for image comparison and I get nothing... please change the title.
Hope you checked out the supplied raw files
No, but I know what the files from these cameras look like. I watched the video because I want to get your perspective. As it is, you might as well provide links to the files themselves without the video.
Matt, as a landscape and product photographer, I went from the Fujifilm X System (several bodies and XF lenses) to the Nikon Z System and haven’t looked back, though I have been impressed with the Fuji gear, I just wanted the larger FF sensor. Recently I’ve been interested in MF, and thus this video. What really surprised me was your Fuji’s frequency of camera lockups! But if you could state which system files yielded sharper images, that would be most appreciated! Thanks!
@@mattgranger to me, those files you supply are really how we're able to make an informed decision. Your files are the reason I'm probably going to end up buying the X2D 100c. It's why I tried and eventually bought the XT5. The Internet can room images so it's good to examine them in controlled settings.
@@SonOfTheBlueSky😂as if you can afford any of these cameras lol
Would be good to start thinking about of the box here, Matt. The subject matter for these test shoots is just way too cringey and cliche. Two women -- one naked with rose petals covering her privates and another pole dancing? Not asking you to be a groundbreaking here... but something other than the lowest possible hanging fruit from a male photographer would be nice.
Both shoots requested by the models. Cheers though.
I need to stop watching video of cameras I will never aford to buy...
It's a shame about the fuji
Luckily Canon and Sony make reliable cameras and fantastic lenses so we don’t have to use these cameras to get fantastic results.
Requires you to sign up for his course before you can see the files... I will skip....his channel from now on.
You don’t have to join a course. But it does require an account. Good luck on your journey.
Too dear x 2
Where are the women without tattoos?
fuji can make only instax cameras. and even in that they fail. or example crated Instax SQUARE and put viewfinder in opposite place as all other brands !
Nah, Fuji makes some great cameras imo.
Hard to find a more biased „review“ comparison on UA-cam. The files are useless. No mention of all the advantages you’ll get with GFX, like leagues better AF. And then continuously mentioning the „sync speed“. Yeah no shi*, leaf shutter lenses have better sync speed. Overall an incredibly biased video, that only seems to exist to throw dirt at the GFX.
I have the Fujifilm x100 ii, and never had a freeze on me. It must be a lousy copy you got
Assume so.
Fuji is junk. A camera at that level of photography that fails like that wants throwing in the bin.
That particular camera body had issues. Fuji isn’t a junk brand though.