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PODCAST: New Babolat Pure Aero is here! A sneak peek & the evolution of this iconic tennis racquet ✨
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2022
- The new Babolat Pure Aero is here!
In this episode, Olivier Carlier (Babolat Global Marketing Manager - Expert Racquets), joins us to talk all about the evolution of the iconic AERO line of Babolat racquets and how this new one came to be! What has changed, who should be using it and so much more!
In this episode:
- Pure Aero: an evolution of the AERO - from the APD to present day Pure Aero; what have been the key moments and most popular versions of the racquet?
- What makes the AERO such an iconic racquet - can't just be Rafa?! Or can it?!
- NextGen players using the Pure Aero: FAA, Carlos, Leylah, Danielle, Jen Brady, etc.
- How Babolat updates a franchise of racquets: from previous generation to new racquet: how they decide what to change & how they navigate between too much or too little change to make it enough of an “update”
- What changes have been made with the new Pure Aero line: 100, 98, Lite and Team
- How important is the RA to the Pure Aero's playability and identity
- Why the different string spacing for the heavy vs. light models
- Who is the Pure Aero player?
- Explain the flax fibers technology in the new Pure Aero
- Best string set ups for the new Pure Aeros
0:00:12 Intro, meet Olivier from Babolat!
0:02:54 explanation of delays of inventory from the pandemic & where Babolat is with deliveries summer 2022
0:05:45 How long does it take from concept to market for racquets; when did this Pure Aero begin getting worked on & how does that begin
0:12:45 what was identified to be main updates for this Pure Aero (better power:control ratio)
0:15:20 the result of what was achieved
0:15:55 APD nostalgia
0:16:00 Pure Aero 2019 & Pure Aero VS
0:19:25 2023/8th generation of the Pure Aero revealed & design explained
0:24:50 Pure Aero VS / 98 evolution
0:30:00 new generation of "AERO" players
0:30:57 players who tested the racquets
0:33:09 Best strings for the new Pure Aeros (poly / poly hybrid included!) & non-poly options
0:38:30 any sneak peeks?! (Rafa racquet?!)
0:41:38 more exciting things to come! focused on 2024 & 2025!
0:43:50 always looking at new technology options for every level
0:45:00 DEMO the Pure Aero NOW
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Thank you Michelle for bringing Olivier to the podcast!
This might be my favorite interview/podcast of 2022
Very happy to see a non frutal pure aero paint work, thumbs up guys!! I know young people loves the 2019 banana one, but im glad you guys didnt listen to the youngsters this time, this kids didn't get to see the 90s-early 2000 awesome paint schemes from pretty much all manufactures.
The new one looks like if the VS and the 2013 had a child. Take my money
Buddy, paint jobs are completely subjective. I love the banana yellow.
The aerobanana is a great racquet but is just boring all yellow and black letters. the designs of the early 2000 really unique from brand to brand, distintive in design but not trying to be striking with a plain string color. People might like the color of the banana but that doesn't make it a good design. Absolutely love the new one
@@maicastro1697 it's boring for you, I love it. Subjectivity.
Question is if the stiffness of the new Pure Aeros will actually be as stiff or less stiff - per the podcast it seems like it should be less stiff 🤞
I think I saw another video where it is only just a little less stiff. It does have better dampening tech though.
The specs show the new Aeros are less stiffer than the 2019 versions
Добрый день. Однако многие в России, считают, что ракетка Надаля - это Babolat APD Original 2004. Он поменял молд и раскладку материала в ракетке?
Is the new string pattern identical to the old APD's or just something close? I played all early generation APDs and always wished they would open the string pattern slightly but the Pure Aero's got opened up way too far.
Hard to say for certain but looks pretty close, and has the 8/8 skips for stringing. Troy, TW
@19:27 is when they introduced the 2023 models.
I think that’s 19:27 here in the States. 👍🏻😀
So soon we will see a new Rafa Pure Aero with a particular set of specs over the rest of the Aero's? That makes sense for Rafa to have his own racquet for sale
Has anyone here used the newest Pure Drive and this, the newest Aero?? I love the Pure Drive, the free power, the high launch angle, the soft feel, the spin potential... but...even though I put Solinco Hyper G in it which helped, it can let you down a little with control, on certain shots. Would this new Aero give me the power? Similar launch angle? The soft feel?But with a little more control???? Thanks.
@tomr1056,
Yes! We are finding this updated Pure Aero to offer more control than previous versions with a softer feel, but still free power. If you are looking for even more control, I would suggest checking out the Pure Aero 98 as our playtest team really loves what that racquet has to offer and feels a bit more precise and controlled but you can still hit out and hit through opponents. Hope that makes sense! If you can demo them side by side that would be ideal and then go from there!
Michelle, TW
When will production be moved from China?
Tighter pattern and lower stiffness. Yes pleass
Will there be a + model??? No mention of it....
Awesome! Thanks guys 🎾👍🙏 great job!!
I see you have the new Pure Aero 98 on your desk! Will their grommets work with the previous gen (Pure Aero VS)?
What weight are going to be available and is there any other head size options?
Here's the current options, www.tennis-warehouse.com/Babolat_Pure_Aero_2023/catpage-BABPA22PP.html. More versions will be coming early, 2023. Troy, TW
The second they make a 98 inch pure aero with 320+ weight I will deadass buy it instantly
I am very, very interested in that as well.
you can always add weight
@@therealdavidleong I do, but it's tough to get the perfect balance and stability. I'll always be fiddling with shit and blaming my lead
@@uchihasasuke7436 it's better to buy lighter than you want and weight up. You can control it this way, make the racket you want. Sounds like you just need more experience with it.
Stock rackets leave you at the mercy of quality control and liking a spec laid out for you, not one you've come to yourself.
Did you buy it?!
The 2013 AeroPro Drive isn't one of the best racquets that Babolat manufactured. It is one of the best racquets EVER manufactured in the history of the sport. We still have five of them and they are every bit as good now as they were when we bought them in 2014. Babolat should never have withdrawn it from sale. It should have become the "Rafa" model in the same way Wilson created the RF97A as the "Federer" model. Babolat missed a huge opportunity to sell millions more of those units.
Interesting that Babolat has returned to a very similar paintjob for the new Pure Aero. Trying to cash in on the fondness for the 2013 APD? Anyway great podcast Michelle. Thanks to you and TW.
Hi TW, with a poly poly hybrid like rpm blast/rpm soft, do you recommend stringing the crosses with rpm soft a few pounds lighter than the mains. How would this setup effect the stringbed performance and feel?
Doing that will improve the feel but reduce the life of the string bed significantly compared to keeping RPM Soft crosses at same tension. You would be better to use a full bed of RPM Blast and reduce the tension of the crosses by 2 to 4 lbs.
2013 APD goated
When is the 98 dropping? The website shows the regular 100 and the team version are dropping on the 25th.
Next year
are there any differences between the Rafa version and this new Pure Aero or is it only cosmetic?
I am wondering the same
I think the Rafa version is going to be the same as the 2019 banana areo version and there are going to keep that model alive with the Rafa model
But I’m not sure
@@SpEEdySlImE-qh4vr actually this makes sense. Since Aero 22 is not the exact replica of Aero 19. However, Aero Rafa is an exact replica of Aero 19, sans the cosmetic changes.
He did mention the new Rafa coming out will have different specs to offer "heavy spin" over the rest of the Aero line
@38:00 he does mention that in Sept. or Oct. we will know more but will be released 2023. Excited to see the new version of the Rafa (2019) since I still like the wider string pattern and spin/power potential. The Babolat website even sets the Rafa line apart from the 2022 ("2023") Pure Aero that was just released.
Given that Rafa really uses the Aero Pro Drive and not the racquet that is branded with his name on it and given that this new aero is a shift back towards the tighter sting pattern of the APD then it’s kind of weird that the Rafa special edition is actually less like Rafa’s actual racquet than the new 2023 version. Maybe the spinnier 2019 version and the Rafa edition which is exactly the same except for the paint is designed to give mere mortals like us Rafa levels of spin even though the racquet he uses generates less spin on its own and more from his technique. Anyway it will be interesting to see what they do to the string pattern on the second gen Rafa when it finally comes out.
Will there be a pure aero 98 team or lite? Like 285g or something? Like the Yonex Vcore 98 285g etc.
As far as we know, not a lighter version of the 98. Troy, TW
Waiting for Pure Aero Rafa Version!!!
Can’t wait for the Aero 98 next year and new RAFA
Same. I'm a blade 98 user but I love the spin from the aero but 100 is too big for me
Same with me, using the Extreme Tour and wishing it had just a bit more oomph. Next year can’t some soon enough!
But the 98 it was already released 🥴
@@felipeaguilarrojas561 without the VS branding it will have a better price hehe
If the 2013 version was the perfect combination of power and control, so why did they change it?
MONEY! People like new things. Many people that owned perfectly good 2013 APDs put them away and purchased the first Pure Aero model to keep up with the Joneses. Also, a lot of people look at the pro players paintjobs and go out and purchase racquets that look the same because they believe they are getting the identical racquet as their favourite Pro uses.
There is no universal perfect combination. That's part of it. There are pros swinging every gen of the aero in all likelihood.
The other is business. As a business, they want to sell rackets. They have to convince people to get the newest one each time it releases. So they'll focus on what's changed and spin it as an 'upgrade' of sorts but things can go in circles. With other rackets, a good example might be lowering swing weight to 'improve acceleration and crank easier winners on the run' and then in the next gen up the swing weight to 'improve stability and plow and put away power' etc.
So now with the aeros we've been with the high energy return/spin access models for quite a few years and we seem to be returning back to the older aero pro drive kind of model. And given time we'll likely end up back with the more powerful ones, and that will be used in marketing to sound better and sell rackets.
Until there's an actual evolution in racket technology again, there's only so much that can be done. By increasing control and precision with this aero, they lower ease of spin access and energy return. Things like tighter string spacing help with shot security, but they affect something else negatively. It's like a game of sliders. Each gen of a racket changes the sliders but we don't usually get better or worse rackets. Most rackets are great now. It's just about personal preference and what works better for you. Hence no universal 'this is best', no matter what some of us want to believe.
Will there be new Pure Aero Tour?
I got a question for michelle, did she worked in arisona back in 2007? In scottsdale?
@Siufui,
She did!
Michelle, TW
@@tenniswarehouse then i worked with her at the hyatt regency. What a cool girl
@Siufui,
Small world :) Are you still in AZ?
Michelle, TW
@@tenniswarehouse left usa that same year. Went back europe and for last 10years in hongkong. Still coaching. Cant get rid of the tennis thing. Jeeez!! Looks you doing great Michelle!!! Stay cool
Nikola Aracic w/ french accent 😂
aaahhhhh i just bought a pure aero+...
I have the 2013. Not a nice looking paint job but a great racquet.
This step backward is Babolat's first step forward since the original version, which was the best racket I ever had in my hand. Since then the racket has been progressively dumbed-down to cater to a wider and wider range of skill levels, an until-now continued process of degrading control and feel. The 2019 is a string-eating, ball-flinging nightmare. When my 2013s finally started stress fracturing and the 2019 abortion was the "replacement," Wilson got a new customer.
The first racket he held up looks awesome. Is that one available? That new one is awful looking.
You know you are getting good wisdom when the man has an accent and circular glasses
Babolat needs to bring back a Pure Drive Soft
Only 3 rounds of samples and it took 2 years?
a raqueta inestable , y descontroladala pregunta es porque hicieron tan mala la version 2019 , porque tal fracaso ? En
Is Rafa’s racket going to be different?
Yes
Made in asia, not to say made in china
Please bring the price down to $229. Tennis racquets are not worth that much. Let's be real
Buy it at local tennis shops, it’s much lower and you can buy for around 189-199$
@@jonathanchen1026 name me a tennis shop that sells a brand new Babolat Pure Aero for $189
I heard this generation of the Pure Aero has a better quality control. If that’s true then that might be where the extra cost is going.
Lyon to San Luis Obispo 5,718 miles / 9 203 km flying. Airfare (roundtrip) from €1389 (acc. to google maps). For one interview. That's commitment! ;-) 😉😄
JK of course.
@Walter E. Kurtz,
Super fun chat though and thankful to have had the opportunity! Luckily, he brought some protos we got to test as well! Always fun to connect in person with the Babolat team!
Michelle, TW
It's a slightly string pattern change, (Less difference now to the Pure Drive) and a cross between the Pure Aero VS and Old Yeller 2019 Pure Aero Drive) A slight adjustment in stiffness and put it on sale. Not anything in specs, technology or other. The width remains the same. I'm still waiting for Babolat to put out a 98sq in racket with the same beam as the Pure Aero. Stop with the thinner VS. [Yes, the thinner beam is for more control with the 98sq in head but, I prefer the power of the Pure Aero Beam in a 98sq in head. Sort of a medium of both worlds. Not an Aeropro Control, not a VS , not a Pure Drive without the Aero. Babolat needs to get on a 98Sq in head Pure Aero. Awkward interview and all commercials aren't for HD. Toof
14:38 - corrrection: "Rafa still plays..."
Indeed
His statement was, this is the racquet Rafa used during his first French Open win, not that Rafa has retired.
@@Sly_404 of course not. but the point is that he has been playing with the same racquet all these years, just with different paint jobs
I’m a 3.5 and let’s be honest, the racket doesn’t really mean much at my level so I buy more on looks. Also, rackets are like golf clubs where it’s all marketing and a racket from ten years ago really isn’t any worse. Currently using the 2016 Aero and I was thinking about updating to the new PA but that retro color scheme looks bad to me. Hard pass. But the good news is I saved a bunch of money on something I really didn’t need anyway.
Wow you deleted my comment about having a europen website with global inventory where people from denmark can order from. Other manufactures does that. So no babolat you are not doing your best about inventory situation.
True i could order from Babolat website to uk but not to denmark
A long winded and sugar coated way to say the Team and Lite are just PJ change.
98 interesting
they could have pushed the weight to 310
Alcaraz is the poster boy for the pure aero Vs. His spec is apparently that of an average stock pure aero Vs. So you're saying it should be heavier than what Alcaraz actually uses? Funny enough, that can already happen because of quality control.
Someone who wants it heavier can customise it themselves. The real issue is for players who want a light spec like Alcaraz and many younger players today. A lighter option is actually needed in addition to current one.
@@sjjapp
you have no idea of carbon LAYUP or what's inlayed in his racket
CANYON bikes xray there carbon bike batches
carbon can have bubbles and all sorts of issues
funny how my 30YO mizuno is same as FEDERRER 365g funny how tennis hasn't changed
can you run as fast as ALCARAZ ? his running speed counters heavy hitting tho he did lose to a good base line hitter
comes down to hitting ball early and rushing him
if you get sucked into his style of play he will out run you
so its tactics
are golf clubs better lighter or cricket bats all comes down to timing and style
my point is light rackets take more effort AKA ALKARAZ runs like crazy
this debate happens in all sports cycling HIGH CADENCE VS PUSHING BIG GEARS
ski's have metal laminates
@@Simon-Simon-Simon Its quite common for younger pros to use lighter rackets with lower swing weights these days. Why? Will be different reasons, but one reason can be wanting more time on the ball. Increasing swing speed is another. Alcaraz a good example of this. And no. Running speed is not making up for power. The guy is one the heaviest hitters on the planet.
My point was merely that a lighter option has a higher priority than adding a heavier one. You can always go up in weight, but you can't remove stock weight. Advanced players, which lets be honest are the only players who should be playing with a heavier pure aero Vs, should know how to customise. And if they know how to customise, they can make a racket how they want, if that can be achieved by going up in spec. Of course, a heavier option still has its place if they make it. I'm merely saying they should first add a lighter one.
I used Alcaraz as an example because if they make the only pure aero Vs available heavier than the one Alcaraz actually uses, a player that over the years is likely to sell Babolat a lot of rackets, that just would be weird.
Ezone 98 and vcore 98 are pure aero Vs/98 competitors. Both of those Yonex offerings have 285g offerings. The ezone also has a tour option that's slightly heavier. Most sticks in this class of racket are 305g as well if you notice, the base option. The yonex model with these is a good one. And I would like to see a pure drive 98 and pure aero 98 do something similar (285 and 305 versions, possibly a tour as well that's say 315 or so).
@@sjjapp
nice topic
but it seems to me silly there are so many rackets options
and all you have to customize seems silly
at these prices then why are not rackets sold as modules then like bikes
raw frame :)
until we see a BABOLAT video discussing his specs we don't know
@@Simon-Simon-Simon that's basically what the rackets are. Platforms. For advanced players and up, quality control isn't good enough, even with Yonex. You need to buy lighter than what you want to use and weight up to achieve consistency of spec, so that when strings go in a match etc you're using the same racket still when you pick up another racket.
As your level increases you may also find it's beneficial to find your own spec. Not just use the spec that comes from a stock racket.
Customisation can do many things with a racket. You can change its performance in a variety of ways to suit your own style of play.
But as I said, this is what a racket is. A base. A platform.
At very least a racket needs a light and standard option. Generally, this is 285g and either 300 or 305g. Some rackets will even have 270g etc option, and some have 310/315/320 etc options. In the case of a pure aero Vs/98, which is a very modern frame for modern styles of play, but ultimately still a 98, it really only needs a 285 and a 305g option. But if it became popular enough, an ezone model type could be good, with a 285g, a 305, and I think a 315g option.
Babolat has the worst sweet spot feel of all rackets lel stop saying perfect feel
I disagree. Especially on serve. If you really catch a ball perfect, it’s feels like the ball just explodes. I will say though, they have terrible off center feel and awful torsion.
The 2013 APD has a wonderful feel if you hit the sweet spot. Every bit as good as many other racquets. However, off centre hits feel terrible unless the racquet is customised with some impact vibration dampening measures.