nice seeing you come to finals but your best [class] builds are kinda inacurate. I'm a top 1000 in the betas and I can tell you if you don't run glitch with light or aps/sonar as medium you're actually just throwing the game because these are big meta gadgets and should not be left out of most loadouts because they give your team a big advantage over the enemy and give you win conditions like more space to play around, wallhacks or a free push because the enemy has no util. Edit: Mines are not worth the slot as you will have either a light or a heavy that will have c4 which can just protect the cashout way better and more controlled especially because you can prep it with gas or other barrels which you can't do with gas mines. Also you can hide c4 so enemies wont just shoot it or try to evade it to not get hit. For the movement I prefer the jump pad but if your heavy says you should swap to zip 100% do that because heavies might get screwed up by the jump pad because they're slower and heavier than you are so they might not make some jumps and that leads to inconsistency and more randomness in fights. This loadout is more selfish so if you're playing with a team/teammate you will want to swap off the mine and maybe jump pad.
@@skell1469 btw I rock the 1887 shotgun because it's really strong but akm is definitly the pick for consistency so I swap to that once I get tired or just in general stop hitting my shots
What do you think about the Medium's gun choices? Do you think that the AKM is the clear winner or is it more complicated than that where the FCAR and the R .357 could potentially be better? Also, do you think that the Defibrillator is a gadget worth running and if so, is it more beneficial than the aps/sonar that you mentioned?
@@Andrew-nm2ve as he said defib is a must pick. akm was the best but it might change with the fcar buff. the r.357 is a very strong weapon but you have to have the aim of a top 100 player or better but as the #1 medium shows the skill ceiling with it is very high. I personally used the shotgun which is not the most consistant weapon but I found success with it but you'll need teammates to back you up if you're playing that. Also if as long as you don't have a pretty good team you shouldn't use aps and sonar at the same time because that is only viable for high level team play strats
I run a similar loadout but instead for the gas mine I run the sonar grenade. One more thing to add which I noticed you doing a lot. Whenever you use the defibrillators, your first instinct should be to top up your teammate's health if you're running the healing gun. Lastly, you should place your jump pads while you're sliding. Sliding gives you a slight bit more momentum and I've noticed that I'm able to make it to those ledges that make you go "man if I just had a bit more forward momentum, I'd be able to get up there" Hope this helps. This kind of loadout is indeed more suited for casual and solo playstyles as the pinned comment suggests. If you're in a 3 stack, communicating with them as a medium player is important because you're the support player. It's better to run a build that makes teamplay better if you're playing ranked or competitive.
I loved playing the M 1887 in the Beta. I got really good with it hitting headshots left right and center but they somewhy removed headshot multipliers for shotguns. Idk if that's a bug or intended but I specifically tested for that on the test range and the multipliers are gone for some reason...
shotgun never had headshot multipliers source: you can check the subreddit "This is how much damage the medium class weapons do" , post is 9months old long and it shows that body and headshot does the same damage
@@namo2403 this is true but the 1887 is still really strong because of the spread and high dmg as it one shots light with a punch, two shots medium and three shots heavy. I killed the #1 player lezduit and lystic with it... and then got rolled by their undefetable aps bunker strat
@@SuicidalChocolateSK wdym they changed nothing just made it easier to reload. It has a way different feel than all the other guns but if you know how to play it and when to shoot (it has pretty a long range) then it's still pretty busted
@@namo2403 Weird. I have footage on my Ps5 of me playing and getting yellow hitmarkers. Maybe that was the bug and I have been experiencing a placebo since launch. I could swear there were headshot multipliers in the Beta
I love the revolver. At certain ranges I’ve one tapped lights, and I’ve 2 tapped heavies/mediums. Obviously I got games where I potato aim and can’t hit a shot.
I haven't watched much yet but IMO I much prefer recon senses when not in comp/pre made teams. Especially in cash grab as you can easily check if you are safe to deposit
I think you might be using the sonar grenades wrong tbh. They’re not meant for tracking during a firefight (you’re right that it’s not hard). I use them pre-push to see where defenders are camped out, or I’ll toss them down a corridor or stairwell as an early warning system when we’re the ones defending.
People sleep on jump pad, not only do you gain the mobility. You can place it behind doors or in a choke to offset your opponents movement on defense. Heals are great, but honestly in a fire fight your more effective team firing than attempting to heal... Yea it helps you recover, but your assuming your gonna win the firefight before it happens right... Worry about winning the engagement first. Turret can bullet sponge, draw aggro, and throw people off. All around better imo.
Explosive mine is the best in my opinion because it can 1 shot lights. Most of the time 1 shot mediums. And it does have lingering gas that damaged teammate or yourself
I currently use: riot shield, ap mine, jump pad and defib and heal beam. Ap mines are soooo much fun. You can put them on explosive cans and make them into proximity missiles
3 GOOD mediums on a team is dumb busted. The amount of times we ran thru a game with 3ms was nuts. Constantly healing and defibing each other was so good. Also had a few games where one medium ran beam and the other 2 ran turrets and we held down cash box with relative ease very often. 2 mediums with beams and a heavy with mesh shield and dome shield is super strong too.
While i agree that ak and beam are better overall, but i specifically like the combo of turret+revolver. I dont run either if those without the other. Even one single tick from the turret reduces the shots to kill for light and medium
Annoyed that playing medium comes with the expectation that your team expects you play a medic revive roll. I understand why you wouldn't want to give it to heavy with all his shields or Light with being able to turn invisible. I like to use more the weapons and gadgets on medium for more offensive playstyle, but at that point you should play Light or Heavy even though I don't want to worry about lack of hp or lack of speed/ movment.
you absolutely should be expected to support your team as medium, it’s essentially the whole point of the role with the abilities you can use. keeping your teammates alive is overpowered and anyone who plays medium without defib or beam is throwing
Remember people the best build is the one you like the most. Don't let these so called META people tells you how to play. For me I like running with a pistol grenade jump pad and a defibrilator with recon senses and having much success with it.
I feel the zip is considerably more usfeul than the pad having used both. The pad requires sloped terrain which is not readily available to get you into the action zip does not. zip is also far more accurate and once your team has used it a punch stops others following.
I would hate to see the meta consist of only mediums… I think the light class needs a couple more utility that is valuable for the team. Perhaps a healing grenade or something
I just cannot understand AKM's recoil at long range. I can hit my first shot and nothing after.... 😁And secondly I hate it's sight. Hopefully there will be titanfall styled weapon and sight customization.
I love playing The Finals but I refuse to play even 1 game of Warzone 3. I didn't buy Vanguard or MW2 or MW3 and they can't have my money or my ball of attention.
Everyone sweating so hard all i see are medium builds with Ak 😭 they kinda need to buff light class if theyre going to give medium the best shotgun in the game
Don't mind me brainstorming on my own comment: maybe it's as easy as giving light class a combat stim option, that will possible get people to do less explosives also.
Or basically do the opposite and make the C4 more impact full by adding one more, or make the explosion stronger, or make it so you can set them off faster.
Really. Then leave an actual comment. What's the bet you didn't even watch the vid. You hang on your phone and wait for notifications just so you can type 4 letters and be the most unoriginal person on the planet. Dude. Wake up in life.
nice seeing you come to finals but your best [class] builds are kinda inacurate. I'm a top 1000 in the betas and I can tell you if you don't run glitch with light or aps/sonar as medium you're actually just throwing the game because these are big meta gadgets and should not be left out of most loadouts because they give your team a big advantage over the enemy and give you win conditions like more space to play around, wallhacks or a free push because the enemy has no util.
Edit: Mines are not worth the slot as you will have either a light or a heavy that will have c4 which can just protect the cashout way better and more controlled especially because you can prep it with gas or other barrels which you can't do with gas mines. Also you can hide c4 so enemies wont just shoot it or try to evade it to not get hit. For the movement I prefer the jump pad but if your heavy says you should swap to zip 100% do that because heavies might get screwed up by the jump pad because they're slower and heavier than you are so they might not make some jumps and that leads to inconsistency and more randomness in fights. This loadout is more selfish so if you're playing with a team/teammate you will want to swap off the mine and maybe jump pad.
Good tips my friend. I'll take your edited load out when playing
@@skell1469 btw I rock the 1887 shotgun because it's really strong but akm is definitly the pick for consistency so I swap to that once I get tired or just in general stop hitting my shots
What do you think about the Medium's gun choices? Do you think that the AKM is the clear winner or is it more complicated than that where the FCAR and the R .357 could potentially be better? Also, do you think that the Defibrillator is a gadget worth running and if so, is it more beneficial than the aps/sonar that you mentioned?
i agree on M, aps turret is literally the best suppression tool you can use for obj.
@@Andrew-nm2ve as he said defib is a must pick. akm was the best but it might change with the fcar buff. the r.357 is a very strong weapon but you have to have the aim of a top 100 player or better but as the #1 medium shows the skill ceiling with it is very high. I personally used the shotgun which is not the most consistant weapon but I found success with it but you'll need teammates to back you up if you're playing that. Also if as long as you don't have a pretty good team you shouldn't use aps and sonar at the same time because that is only viable for high level team play strats
I run a similar loadout but instead for the gas mine I run the sonar grenade.
One more thing to add which I noticed you doing a lot. Whenever you use the defibrillators, your first instinct should be to top up your teammate's health if you're running the healing gun.
Lastly, you should place your jump pads while you're sliding. Sliding gives you a slight bit more momentum and I've noticed that I'm able to make it to those ledges that make you go "man if I just had a bit more forward momentum, I'd be able to get up there"
Hope this helps. This kind of loadout is indeed more suited for casual and solo playstyles as the pinned comment suggests. If you're in a 3 stack, communicating with them as a medium player is important because you're the support player. It's better to run a build that makes teamplay better if you're playing ranked or competitive.
Love seeing you play the Finals! I've been so excited for the game and to see one of my favorite Apex youtubers play it is the cherry on top ❤
I loved playing the M 1887 in the Beta. I got really good with it hitting headshots left right and center but they somewhy removed headshot multipliers for shotguns. Idk if that's a bug or intended but I specifically tested for that on the test range and the multipliers are gone for some reason...
shotgun never had headshot multipliers
source: you can check the subreddit "This is how much damage the medium class weapons do" , post is 9months old long and it shows that body and headshot does the same damage
@@namo2403 this is true but the 1887 is still really strong because of the spread and high dmg as it one shots light with a punch, two shots medium and three shots heavy. I killed the #1 player lezduit and lystic with it... and then got rolled by their undefetable aps bunker strat
Yeah shotgun for M seems pretty trash now sadly
@@SuicidalChocolateSK wdym they changed nothing just made it easier to reload. It has a way different feel than all the other guns but if you know how to play it and when to shoot (it has pretty a long range) then it's still pretty busted
@@namo2403 Weird. I have footage on my Ps5 of me playing and getting yellow hitmarkers. Maybe that was the bug and I have been experiencing a placebo since launch. I could swear there were headshot multipliers in the Beta
I love the revolver. At certain ranges I’ve one tapped lights, and I’ve 2 tapped heavies/mediums. Obviously I got games where I potato aim and can’t hit a shot.
My man thank you so much for the tips.
I'm consistently getting 10 or more kills with the revolver in Quick Cash. It's so fun!
I haven't watched much yet but IMO I much prefer recon senses when not in comp/pre made teams. Especially in cash grab as you can easily check if you are safe to deposit
I think you might be using the sonar grenades wrong tbh. They’re not meant for tracking during a firefight (you’re right that it’s not hard). I use them pre-push to see where defenders are camped out, or I’ll toss them down a corridor or stairwell as an early warning system when we’re the ones defending.
People sleep on jump pad, not only do you gain the mobility. You can place it behind doors or in a choke to offset your opponents movement on defense.
Heals are great, but honestly in a fire fight your more effective team firing than attempting to heal... Yea it helps you recover, but your assuming your gonna win the firefight before it happens right... Worry about winning the engagement first. Turret can bullet sponge, draw aggro, and throw people off. All around better imo.
I feel like gas nades are a must because everyone uses gas. If you don’t know, fire gets rid of gas
bro recon sense is so good it actually gives you wallhacks for a few seconds it helps so much
I’ve been waiting for this game. Glad to see you’re on it because I’m gonna need help lol
You really need to heal teammates after reviving them with the defib
I personally like the lever action. I used it in beta, and I still use it. It's great close range or far.
Explosive mine is the best in my opinion because it can 1 shot lights. Most of the time 1 shot mediums. And it does have lingering gas that damaged teammate or yourself
I currently use: riot shield, ap mine, jump pad and defib and heal beam. Ap mines are soooo much fun. You can put them on explosive cans and make them into proximity missiles
Insane build
arent ziplines better than jump pads?
3 GOOD mediums on a team is dumb busted. The amount of times we ran thru a game with 3ms was nuts. Constantly healing and defibing each other was so good. Also had a few games where one medium ran beam and the other 2 ran turrets and we held down cash box with relative ease very often. 2 mediums with beams and a heavy with mesh shield and dome shield is super strong too.
Hey is there a bug on console because each time I press A to respawn I doesn't do anything
Its all personal play style and creativity. Everything in the game is useful especially when working with teammates. Its just your preference.
While i agree that ak and beam are better overall, but i specifically like the combo of turret+revolver. I dont run either if those without the other. Even one single tick from the turret reduces the shots to kill for light and medium
Shotgun, and all the traps and hope another med does the heal thing
do u also know u can go slide into jump pad to get more speed?
can you slide and deploy jump pad at the same time for more distance travel? i know you can do this with the already deployed jump pad.
Annoyed that playing medium comes with the expectation that your team expects you play a medic revive roll. I understand why you wouldn't want to give it to heavy with all his shields or Light with being able to turn invisible. I like to use more the weapons and gadgets on medium for more offensive playstyle, but at that point you should play Light or Heavy even though I don't want to worry about lack of hp or lack of speed/ movment.
you absolutely should be expected to support your team as medium, it’s essentially the whole point of the role with the abilities you can use. keeping your teammates alive is overpowered and anyone who plays medium without defib or beam is throwing
I would take goo instead of jump pad, it's very valuable
Jump pad or zipline are mandatory. If the cash out is up in the sky, your only option is waiting for a heavy RPG to shoot it down.
Remember people the best build is the one you like the most. Don't let these so called META people tells you how to play. For me I like running with a pistol grenade jump pad and a defibrilator with recon senses and having much success with it.
Did the full game drop?
Yes since the game awards show
yes, yesterday
Dude gas is SOOOOOO freaking strong. I’ve gotten sooo many kills with gas mines alone
I love how the best load out is literally just the default one
I feel the zip is considerably more usfeul than the pad having used both. The pad requires sloped terrain which is not readily available to get you into the action zip does not. zip is also far more accurate and once your team has used it a punch stops others following.
It so hard to control aim and hit enemy i keep missing so many shot
I love it when ppl tell u what class is good and then shows u the class is good Walk the talk ❤
The mine meta is so real
Flamethrower is my love language
for me.. zipline is a must! its won me the games many times lol
Slide on Pad for more mobility
i'm surprised the 357 is not considered, i'm just beaming player accross the map/medium range and even close,the point shooting is decent
If there is no heavy in your team its not worth to take helaing beam. Medium and Light die too fast.
Next time make sure ur camera isnt covering information on the screen
Can i play this on xbox one?
Yes
@@jonathnpoindexter9448just tried. U can't
That is a lie. This game is next Gen only unfortunately.
I would hate to see the meta consist of only mediums… I think the light class needs a couple more utility that is valuable for the team. Perhaps a healing grenade or something
Riot Shield is a beast
THE pistol slapss tho
once people realize that smoke counters fire and poison things might change. too bad it is so hard to find smoke canisters
I just cannot understand AKM's recoil at long range. I can hit my first shot and nothing after.... 😁And secondly I hate it's sight. Hopefully there will be titanfall styled weapon and sight customization.
are you controller or mouse
The gun has the same recoil everytime you shoot
the medium doesnt have 2 shotguns. one is a grenade launcher
gas mine has won me so many games
Do heavy next
The most addictive game agree?
I love playing The Finals but I refuse to play even 1 game of Warzone 3. I didn't buy Vanguard or MW2 or MW3 and they can't have my money or my ball of attention.
Surprifed merchant hasnt bought the entire shop by now
loool im useing this loadout before this video
Gas is useless, fire disabled this, the best is Frag Grenade you can spit the spot, hit and frag the enemies.
ngl I think the scar is better
OK, CHAU
Everyone sweating so hard all i see are medium builds with Ak 😭 they kinda need to buff light class if theyre going to give medium the best shotgun in the game
Don't mind me brainstorming on my own comment: maybe it's as easy as giving light class a combat stim option, that will possible get people to do less explosives also.
Or basically do the opposite and make the C4 more impact full by adding one more, or make the explosion stronger, or make it so you can set them off faster.
Yeah, light is built for close range so why do they give the best shotgun to mediums.
This game TOWERS valorant
This guy hasn't played much, I don’t think🤣🤣
2:29 sorry did you say “shotguns” as in plural.? Bruh come on
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Really. Then leave an actual comment.
What's the bet you didn't even watch the vid.
You hang on your phone and wait for notifications just so you can type 4 letters and be the most unoriginal person on the planet.
Dude. Wake up in life.
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