JUDO or BJJ: WHICH SHOULD I JOIN?

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  • @michaelmcvey1442
    @michaelmcvey1442 3 роки тому +4

    Hi Kathy - I’m 51 and have a background in mainly striking arts. Looking at starting Judo after lockdown eventually ends! I am subscribed for beginner tips 👍

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  3 роки тому +1

      Hey Michael! Awesome! Stoked you're joining judo! Keep me posted on your progress!!!

    • @vancityband6577
      @vancityband6577 3 роки тому +2

      Hi Michael, I'm 43, have a background in mainly striking arts and I'm waiting for the lockdown to end as well to sign up (was waiting for an ankle sprain to heal and then lockdown started). Glad to see I'm not alone!

  • @lewisb85
    @lewisb85 3 роки тому +6

    I forgot to mention those saying "you're too old to do judo" read Mark Law's book "the Pyjama game" He took up Judo after turning 50, got his black belt in it, then went down the hall and started training BJJ at ray stevens/roger gracies class at the Budokwai.

  • @bb320
    @bb320 3 роки тому +7

    Ukemi! Ukemi! Ukemi! once they get pass the fear of getting thrown, that's when their judo game improve...

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  3 роки тому +4

      Absolutely! That’s why judo focuses a lot on Ukemi practice in the beginning (and throughout all judo practices as well)!

  • @OGFITNESS
    @OGFITNESS 3 роки тому +3

    Hey Kat,
    Wow, that's a lot of hunting going on there :) (the head trophies). hehehe.
    Nice video, i see how it's very club dependent for an older adult when it comes to safety and easing into it. Like you said, some clubs are very competitive while others are more recreational. Gotta find the right one for you and talk to the sensei, absolutely agree.

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  3 роки тому

      Yes, we lease from a Fish and Game Club for our dojo space - that's why the animal heads... And yes, super important to talk to each Sensei to see their philosophies before joining I think...

  • @JoseRodriguez-kg2ec
    @JoseRodriguez-kg2ec Рік тому +1

    I have a Nidan in judo under the usja and a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu under ibjjf I'm now 53 yrs old .... it is good to learn both and both can end a fight very quickly... my favorite throws where Hari goshi and uchi Mata... my go to ground work moves are chokes cause they end the fight quickly.... osakomi pins are different in both arts in judo its a pin and jiu-jitsu its a transition position and you flow to one position to another and judo it's a hold down or pin and hold for a couple a seconds to win the match... both arts are great and have different rule sits .... so if you going to pick one pick the one that's going to take alot of time to learn and that's judo it took me a while to really get the throws down plus break falls is very important you need to know how to fall ... jiujitsu ground work I learn quick once I started learning how to move on the ground learning sweeps off my back jiu jiu gatami and shime waza where my go to moves and you learn different ways of doing them in judo .... well awesome video Oss

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for this - a very accurate description. And I agree… both arts are important to take… later on in life, I still love both like you do!!🥋🙏💛

    • @JoseRodriguez-kg2ec
      @JoseRodriguez-kg2ec Рік тому

      @Kathy Hubble/NTB FIGHT GEAR your welcome ... I think judo helps alot because it's in categories like ne Waza Shima waza , katami waza , Naga waza , so it helps learn the different arts with in that art while jiu-jitsu is a collection of moves and situations and escapes and sweeps and what makes them fit together is randori .... great video keep up the good work 👌 👏

  • @bobpickens1
    @bobpickens1 3 роки тому +12

    I did Judo in my pre and early teens. In the mid 1980's I became interested in Aikido. I am currently a Nidan in Aikido an train 4-5 days a week . Interestingly, I have never lost my interest in Judo. I am currently investigating the local Judo club I belonged to some 60 years ago. I turned 77 last month. Odd how we seem to return to our origins. I think this is going to be an interesting journey.

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  3 роки тому +2

      It's so true Robert! We always return to our roots! Keep us posted on your journey!

    • @bobpickens1
      @bobpickens1 3 роки тому

      @@KathyHubble193 Thank you. I will.

  • @lewisb85
    @lewisb85 3 роки тому +1

    Do both you'll become a beast like Flavio Canto, Travis Stevens, Ffion Davis and Ray Stevens. I live in Bath UK and we have one of the best BJJ academies here but we also have one of the training locations for the UK judo team, so I train both. the light switch going on moment for me was after going to one of Ray Stevens' Judo for BJJ seminars I actually learnt about how in competition the Judo guy actually has the edge during the takedown and transition phase of a match, hence why competitors from ray's academy (and he encourages his students to cross train) go for the big explosive throw which quite a few BJJ guys can't deal with.

  • @jamesmunroe6558
    @jamesmunroe6558 Рік тому

    Hi Kathy, just wanted to drop you a line and tell you how much I'm enjoying your Judo Belt Promotion series - what a fabulous resource! Thanks for sharing!

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  Рік тому +1

      Well thank you so much sir! Glad to know it’s being used out there for a purpose! 🙏🥋💛

  • @visionpiping1048
    @visionpiping1048 17 днів тому

    At 56 I started this summer, first BJJ and then judo. I really like the BJJ, but ai love the judo!

  • @dorota5384
    @dorota5384 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, thank you Kathy! I was always sure judo, one should start early. I always wanted to but was a bit afraid after hearing this opinion. I'm 36, and just started bjj, I'll defo get into judo after watching this 💗

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  2 роки тому +2

      Never too late! And ya, keep me posted on your journey!!!

  • @eberhardkieslich2538
    @eberhardkieslich2538 2 роки тому

    Very glad I came across this video. Very well explained, exactly my views.

  • @playthroughcinema
    @playthroughcinema 3 роки тому +5

    I like judo because you take them down then you can run, or if you have to, follow through with a choke/submission, I like the sweeps in judo they're good too. One thing with bjj is there are so many vids online showing bjj fights and no one else getting involved. It's a bad idea to rely on bjj for self defence, what if you're rolling and the other guy pulls a weapon or his friends join in? wouldn't it be better to be on your feet moving around using judo when grabbed? of course it would.
    People see bjj in mma and it looks cool, but that's a controlled environment with a ref/rules. Since most people don't know bjj they're more likely to grapple with you standing and that's another reason why judo wins. Am I right kathy? I mean I don't do judo or bjj... but from my observation those are reasons why I think judo is better... for self defence at least.

    • @marcelodiaz5006
      @marcelodiaz5006 3 роки тому +1

      Using your logic: what if your opponent have friends when you throw somebody? Your opponent can easily stand up and chase you. In bjj you can have control, position and submission.
      Literally, any martial art can save you from 2 or more opponents, or even a weapon

    • @memysurname7521
      @memysurname7521 2 роки тому

      Judo is too rough, it causes pain and bruises. The grips are limited, the Gi dependency is really bad, etc.
      BJJ and, if you like it, some Muay Thai and wrestling mixed in are way more productive.

    • @brianrahuba6919
      @brianrahuba6919 2 роки тому

      There are throws in BJJ mabe not the same in Judo . But all art's have their limitations being strong or weak . Like striking art's what's there is to know ? And there are limits to it a kicking art is good till you can't kick and punching art is good till you can't punch a throwing art is good till you can't throw wrestling art is good till you can't wrestle . Not one is better then the next are . As a warrior we force the opposition in the realm where we want to combat at . Not where our opposition wants to be in . Since I like grappling Jit Jitsu is for me and there are levels on the damage I can control on my opponent . Once you throw someone the best you can do is hold on to your opponent so the impact doesn't damage them to much . But always think if knife fighting comes to play Jit Jitsu would be better . And what I see the Jit Jitsu you control the damage control on your opponent better . So why does people think there are no take downs or throws in Jit Jitsu ? To use your art you need to get your opponent where you want to be at . If I'm a boxer I surly don't want a grappling fighter it's out of your element and so forth . Just get good at something is what I say . Like myself I train in Iron Fist and Iron Palm . Know am I a boxer ? No I'm not but if I hit you it won't be a fist hitting you more like rock hitting you . Now muti opponents your just screwed no matter what art your in PERIOD ! I'm 6ft at 295 sorry but it there is 2 or 3 of me I don't care what you know pack mentality will rule all the time saying multiple attacker's Judo is better then Jit Jitsu is plain stupid . Sorry for being forward with my word's but people who talk like that can't fight or even know how too especially if you know nothing of the two . What you think is not factual . It's only your opinion and that's it your opinion . Learn something and cross train in anything . Is always a plus

  • @abvisuals7200
    @abvisuals7200 Рік тому

    I stopped judo a few years ago but I want to return. The judo club nearby is cheaper Monthly but offer like half the sessions the BJJ club offers (2 to be exact while the BJJ club offers 4-5) so I'm genuinely not sure what to train lol BJJ is intriguing but my hear is somewhat with judo since it was my first martial art

  • @WestonSimonis
    @WestonSimonis Рік тому

    I have been in BJJ & JJJ for many years. Been interested in doing Judo but no schools in my area. Could I still enter a Judo tournament even if I have no school or rank in it? We do practices Judo throws in JJJ.

  • @jaymorris3468
    @jaymorris3468 Рік тому

    Both eventually but It's much easier to go from Judo to BJJ than the other way round, A judoka can do really well in BJJ but very unlikely the other way around, i found BJJ a rest tbh cos u can take your time,,But different rules, for self defence, i say Judo, once thrown an inexperience yob is already done, the concrete does the work for you, BJJ emphasis is mostly on the ground and great tech you can use in newaza, IMHO. Depends what you want from it.

  • @jamesmcdonagh2331
    @jamesmcdonagh2331 Рік тому

    Some of those you like judo end up doing BJJ, i think people don't realize that Judo has a ground work only Judo version called Kosen Judo ,but it is mainly taught in Japan or China ...No westener learned it for other parts of the world to start training..which is a shame given how big BJJ has become ...Judoka Kimura beat Gracie in a ground fight using Kosen Judo .This Style is for the Judoka in ground work only. It is just that BJJ is out there to be able to train and not Kosen Judo groundwork .Thanks Kathy. Merry Christmas.

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  Рік тому

      Merry Christmas to you too James! And thanks for the insight!

  • @DonquihoteGG
    @DonquihoteGG 3 роки тому +2

    Now that ur back in the dojo will we see more throw videos?

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  3 роки тому +2

      Random A.F. You bet, coming soon!

    • @skarnyfred2250
      @skarnyfred2250 3 роки тому

      @@KathyHubble193 Hope to see more of your great Tomoe Nage. Thanks for your hard work, skill and passion.

  • @christophalcmeonides8537
    @christophalcmeonides8537 2 роки тому

    Great info
    Thanks Kathy :)

  • @Terminatortx33
    @Terminatortx33 2 роки тому

    Im an older Judo guy and the one thing i dont like is when we compete in Masters we get no contest points in Australia. If i want points i have to compete mens division against all the fit and young Judokas going flat out. So i tend to get injured so i just dont do compete. So takes years to get points for your next Dan gradings. They need to fix that rule i think. Should be able to gain points from veterans 40+ brackets.

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  2 роки тому +1

      We have Veteran's points count for dan gradings here now. And I agree, we certainly should be able to!

  • @rogerfulgham3941
    @rogerfulgham3941 2 місяці тому

    Incredible and amazing

  • @TheLockon00
    @TheLockon00 2 роки тому

    I competed in MMA and have taken some head trauma. Not an incredible amount, but enough to be cautious about what arts I practice. I no longer do any striking with contact sparring, for instance. I have an interest in Judo, but it seems the impact from the throws and randori might conflict with my priorities. But I am unsure.

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  2 роки тому +1

      Judo has some impact throws for sure, but 50% of Judo is all mat-work, NeWaza, so you can sit out the heavy throwing portions of the practice like some of my older students do, and just do the groundwork (Newaza) portion as well... also doing the throws into the crash mat is fun too!

  • @michaelenns8872
    @michaelenns8872 3 роки тому +1

    It's pretty simple: Can you afford bjj? No, then judo. Yes
    Which one interests you more? BJJ! Judo!! Both.
    Which one is closer to your home? Judo! BJJ! Both pretty much.
    Do you care about the self defense aspect. Yes (probably more judo). No.
    Do you care about getting thrown and having body parts hurt a little after training. Yes, BJJ. No
    At that point, I'd say just go with your gut feeling.

    • @michaelenns8872
      @michaelenns8872 3 роки тому

      I forgot to add: Do a trying lesson at all these clubs you are interested and see 4 yourself which one speaks more to you.

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  3 роки тому

      @@michaelenns8872 100%!

  • @Perifanos
    @Perifanos 2 роки тому

    I have just went to a judo/bjj school and the Sensei in judo who owns the school asked me which would you like to start? And i told him both. Why both? In BJJ they wil learn you around 10 or 15 no more than that take downs while judo has around 60. So i told him sensei i want to learn judo in order to be competent in bjj. And i am 45! I don't know if i am right or wrong time will tell!

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  2 роки тому

      That's awesome - so cool you are joining at 45! Love it! Keep us posted on how everything goes!!

    • @Perifanos
      @Perifanos 2 роки тому

      @@KathyHubble193 You asked me how it goes. Well i have noticed in BJJ even the advanced students don't protect their legs they keep them immobilized and i asked in my judo training a blackbelt teammate what would he do if his opponent keep his feet still, so the guy taught me yesterday ko-uchi gari and ko-soto gari and i cant wait to apply them in rolling. Now i ve started judo a couple weeks ago and at the end of the month i have a choice to make. Either i am gonna learn to execute the test for yellow belt or i am gonna take it on May next year so i am gonna have to train really hard to learn the test and take my yellow belt. Wish me luck. BTW If any BJJ student read this do yourself a favor and take judo classes as well. You cant beat a guy who knows judo really well. He will throw you down the way he wants and either he will mount on you or he will take side control and submit you. Judokas are really fast

  • @nutaman60
    @nutaman60 3 роки тому

    Do you have any experience with students begining judo or bjj after hips surgery?

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  3 роки тому +1

      Depending on your type of surgery but after healing, do more Ne-waza in your judo workouts, and bjj is great too - just be careful and pick your training partners and tell them what you want and need...

  • @michaelenns8872
    @michaelenns8872 3 роки тому +1

    Oh yeah, my club definitely needs a crash mat. Our club is filled with high level judokas and they throw you like you are a little doll.

  • @88hyperman
    @88hyperman 3 роки тому

    Our top judo 🥋 guy was 58 years old!

  • @rogerfulgham3941
    @rogerfulgham3941 2 місяці тому

    You’re welcome 👍👍👌👌✌️✌️💪💪👊👊🥊🥊🥋🥋

  • @dinardoworldwide
    @dinardoworldwide 3 роки тому

    Fun!

  • @ifazhowl5381
    @ifazhowl5381 3 роки тому +7

    craziest dojo ever. Animal heads lining ever corner of the walls lmao

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  3 роки тому +5

      I know, it's so great! Our dojo is within the Fish & Game Club building that's why...

  • @michaelenns8872
    @michaelenns8872 3 роки тому

    Correct, Judo is way bigger and well known in europe than it is in america. Most people from europe have not even heard of bjj.

  • @tribalman9668
    @tribalman9668 3 роки тому

    Both. It is the same thing that had divided itself into two different branches. Nage Waza= today’s judo and katame waza= today’s bjj..

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  3 роки тому +1

      Yes both. Exactly what I say in the video. But the Nage waza and Newaza comparison isn’t necessarily true, as mentioned in the video. After watching, would live to hear your comments!

    • @tribalman9668
      @tribalman9668 3 роки тому

      @@KathyHubble193, yes i heard what you said and i agree with you, you need to practices both, but in my opinion because the original art fragmented into two different branches due to endless and questionable politics. I practiced judo in my youth and in my country there was not jujitsu, but as we progressed into the art it became more and more, what we know today, jujitsu. When i see a bjj curriculum i can still judo name most/ all of the techniques... when i see the classic videos of the old judo masters like Tokio Hirano i can not tell what he is practicing, judo or jujitsu because the art was integrated....now a days a bjj guy will just pull guard at the minimum frustration with the stand up game of his opponent and judo had banned morote gari and techniques of the sort... when in come to age more martial arts are ageless, you can practice them at any age, you just need to adjust your expectations....no ura nage for me anymore and pulling guard/ do jime makes a way more sense now, lol... still think it is a shame that judo in its olympic quest had allowed this fragmentation and had lost most of its martial art origins, no one practice or even heard of atemi waza anymore for example....

    • @memysurname7521
      @memysurname7521 2 роки тому

      @@tribalman9668 No, in BJJ you wrestle for throws and submissions like in Judo, but you don't wrestle for Osaekomi but instead for the Mount and or Back Mount. Soon, fundamentally different martial arts. With the different fundamental being the one that most BJJrs train the most time. The original Gracie brothers learned Catch Wrestling from their teacher Dudu, learned from Judokas that were Catch Wrestlers themselves, practiced No Gi and leglocks, George Gracie even won against Yano that was a Kosen Judo representative. So yeah, isn't one art that branched in two. Is a mix of different wrestlings that was tailor made to Vale Tudo competitions.

    • @tribalman9668
      @tribalman9668 2 роки тому

      @@memysurname7521 you just don’t make sense, to much indoctrination and disinformation.. you need to learn your history.. jujutsu is the original art.. Kano created judo from it but he wanted judo to become an Olympic sport not a martial art so he did not want his disciples to fight for money or fame, so Maeda told Kano he was teaching jujutsu to the Brazilians no judo and jujutsu became jujitsu by Portuguese pronunciation.. what Maeda knew was judo… the only thing different is the competition rules, get a bunch of judokas give them bjj competition rules and in a few months you’ll have bjj tournaments.. get a bunch of jujiteros and give them judo rules, they will become judokas.. same techniques, there is nothing in bjj that does not have a Japanese name and is not a jujutsu technique… what could the vale todo fighters knew that the samurais did not? Jujutsu is the hand to hand combat system of the samurais.. the Gracie’s have won and lost all around the word, that those not make any difference when it comes to what they practice..

  • @michaelt1899
    @michaelt1899 2 роки тому

    Please increase the volume of your video. I have my volume on full blast and cannot hear you. Had to exit the video because of it.

  • @plamenmilanov3009
    @plamenmilanov3009 3 роки тому +2

    If you want to maintain peak physical form, but not really applicable - go for Kyokushin or Taekwondo. If you are all about the discipline and want to be a part of a sect - Aikido. If you want somewhat limited self defense in any situation - go for Judo. If you want self defense that works in many situations - Wing Chun. And if you are gay and want to cuddle with people of the same sex on the ground for 15 minutes - go for BJJ. BJJ has a great ground game, but in self defense is not really applicable, because you are not very likely to end up fighting on the ground, and even if you do, there are most likely going to be people around, trying to break the fight at that point. And finally - if you want self ultimate self defense capabilities - go for boxing, kickboxing or muay thai , but be advised that the training is hard and involves taking a lot of hits in the head during training, so i don't think it's really worth it for normal people working at an office from 9 to 5. I'd go for Wing Chun in that case.

    • @KathyHubble193
      @KathyHubble193  3 роки тому +2

      This was a video aimed at the question about someone considering joining judo or BJJ as a sport more not a street fight... (although both have attributes there also)

    • @Crazy_Rich_Asian
      @Crazy_Rich_Asian 3 роки тому +8

      Wing chun? Seriously?

    • @Squishysforbreakfast
      @Squishysforbreakfast 3 роки тому +2

      Any grappling art paired with a good striking art is the best option for unarmed self defense. A good Judo slam can end a fight in the streets before it can really begin. Go ahead, try to stop a Judoka from grabbing you; and good luck getting them off once they do.

    • @plamenmilanov3009
      @plamenmilanov3009 3 роки тому

      @@Squishysforbreakfast yes but Judo training is too intensive and is for people that are in good health already. Also it's much more likely to get injured in Judo than Wing Chun. How can i at 31 years of age, 185cm and 110kg start training Judo? I love the sport, it's by far my most favourite to watch. I just don't think it's a good idea to get my 110 body thrown around for practice, basically for nothing.

    • @Squishysforbreakfast
      @Squishysforbreakfast 3 роки тому

      @@plamenmilanov3009 you are not that old tbh. Unless you have some sort of injury, plus the randori is essential for practical use.
      Wing Chun is good on paper but oftentimes they struggle against trained people, like boxers. Mostly because you cannot spar in Kung fu. Aikido has the same problem.