I'm Irish and I live in Monterrey Mexico and us Irish fought proudly with Mexico during the Mexican American war over 200 Irish men called the San Patricios 🇲🇽☘️🇮🇪
Now imagine of the whole world were infused with the Irish spirit instead of the English one, voluntarily (as are truly so machoxists some to do so) or not (as tis was mostly the case). What OPENHEARTED, GENEROUS AND GREAT this world d had been...
Irish Catholics we're a huge part of the Caribbean slave trade, because light skin slave with red hair was a status symbol in Europe just like Hollywood with the minority babies they adopt as a status symbol.. mainly it was a religious thing why the Catholic irish family's were targeted..But the irish held out for a long time but once they left the Church abortion came to the land and now Muhammad was the most common baby name in Dublin last year..While the irish elites are richer than ever the irish are losing Ireland..
Why would there be no Irish people in the Caribbean??? Idk maybe because my great grandma came to Trinidad from Ireland, I just find that an odd assumption
What happened on Montserrat was an incredible shame that crippled a very unique culture. Plymouth's destruction and the desolation of much of the northern island.
@@Dulaman107 It is indeed. Following the brutal invasion, colonisation and ethnic cleansing of Ireland an estimated 850,000 were “wasted by the sword, plague, famine, hardship and banishment.” At the end of the war, vast numbers of Irish men, women and children were forcibly transported by the English government. Oliver Cromwell needed to populate the new colonies. Many were convicts, some indentured servants and very few of the deportees had committed any crimes. Deportation “beyond the sea, either within His Majesty’s dominions or elsewhere outside His Majesty’s Dominions” was one of their methods of dealing with the Irish issue and, more importantly, populating England’s new acquisition. Large numbers of the Irish exiles died from heat and diseases. Some survived and left the places they knew as a rememberence to who they were.
"What's yer name?" "Eugene Fleming." "Eugene Fleming... good man, Eugene. And what's yers?" _ "Se🍀n" I love your videos, Davy. It is deeply moving, to learn more about such a fierce, proud, beautiful people; and I'm humbled and proud to be descended from such men and women. Hearing where else in the world you would find Irish communities is fascinating, as well!
Red legs is the name if the Irish colony left over from when Cromwell Enslaved them.Rihianna is a red-leg her father is a fenty so she is part Irish ..
@@debhin that is incorrect. Cromwell sent Irish to Barbados as actual slaves, one of my ancestors suffered in Barbados as a slave. It was even more common among women. This was only one of the many cruelties Cromwell visited on the Irish who resisted his forces in Ireland. My ancestor was offered indentured servitude by a Massachusetts merchant who purchased sugar in Barbados. Being an indentured servant was a step up for my ancestor and he was thrilled to take that offer. Did the Irish suffer as much as African slaves? Well they had the distinct advantage of being able to assimilate into a mainly British society so it did not continue past one or two generations. Some joined African slaves in the Caribbean to develop a truly unique and rich society still prevalent in places like Monserrat. I have heard the difference between Irish and African slaves described as that Irish slaves were actually indentured servants, and though this may have been true for some. Cromwell did not intend for his victims who survived his rampage through Ireland to be able to achieve freedom with their work.
@@debhinYeah thats a story the English often put about. The reality is that 10s of 1000s of Irish men women and children were rounded up and transported against their will to the early English colonies to be worked to death during the 1500 and 1600s, following the brutal invasion, colonisation and ethnic cleansing of Ireland. Even if they had been forced to sign contracts- then it was not "indentured servitude". Nor would they have understood where they were been sent to, most likely not being English speakers. To quote: "Irish people being enslaved in the Caribbean by Cromwellian forces is contemporary with the events themselves and is based on historical truth" It wasnt lifetime slavery, because they were sent there to die and die they did as large numbers of the Irish died as a result of the brutal conditions, heat and diseases. Later some Irish were indeed transported as so called indentured servants. That's a whole other story.
@debhin They were both actually started as slaves, but after the slave law bill, foreign slaves were than refereed to as indentured, just a change in the name the job stated the same, sold as property zero contract. .no choice in the matter Cromwell transported them..Of catholic Scottish possible enslaved, bit protestant Scottish were the outliers in charge of the slaves, just like were in Ulster and US South. .
These people are black and oof Irish identity but they are not the black Irish. That term merely mena sblack haired Irish people. BTW, the slave opwners here were Irish and a slave uprising drove them out.
Correct, the reason they celebrate St Patrick's day for a week is to commemorate the slave rebellion you mentioned. I'm assuming they picked St Patrick's day because they thought all the Irish slave masters would be drunk lol
@@debhin Lol, I forgot about the drunk part. Thanks for reminding me. I ilke site but clealry I am from a differnt Irsh identity strain from the narrator. My parnets' families, from East Clare, deValera's constituency, were active in the Irish Wat of Independence, and then totally suppported Collins efforts to build the new Irsih state. They suffered for tis, especially my father's family. I think the IRA members of my mother's familywere to scary or respected for her family to suffer as they diid grtetaly during then ar of Indepemdence.. The "up the Republic crowd" leaves out that the UK govt had good reason to fear a working cass/Communist revolution. They saw the army as their only defense shoudthat happen. An dthe lower ranks of officer were overhwlmingly Ulster Protetsnats, some of whem had already mutineed fanist being incoorportated into a single Irish Free State. Voolins understood this. ASnd deValera knw=ew that Collins hyad gotten the best that the Irish coud get from the British at that timel. Or so my tradiition sees it.
Incorrect. The island was an English colony. An English colony ran for and by the English Crown. The first Irish transported there were sent from St Kitts where the English governor wanted rid of the tlthe Irish who had been sent there to work on the early plantations. Montserrat was founded in 1632. The first slaves did not arrive until between 1650 and 1660. And at first in relatively small numbers. It is estimated that at this time there was over 1000 forced and indentured labourers working as on the plantations as field hands and general labourers . An early survey of the Island details the numbers involved. In 1667 the Irish on Montserrat rose in rebellion and aided the shortlived French capture of the island. The slave rebellion of 1768 was undertaken at a time when the Irish on the island were prohibited from being members or voting for the Island Council which ruled from the Government House. The Irish were also prohibited from having a church on the island. It is also important to note there is no reference to Irish being the target of the rebellion in the historical record. It wasn't until 1828 that an act was passed that gave civil and political equality to the Irish in Montserrat. Ultimately the plot of the rebellion discovered and its participants were executed. The plantation owners were not driven out.
@@debhinNothing like a bit of rac ist sterotyping of the "drunk" Irish eh? Firstly the Irish transported to Montserrat were in the vast majority those the English sent there to clear the island for the growing of Tobacco. These were followed by those transported during the Cromwellian cleansing of Ireland. Overseeing the Irish on Montserrat in the early decades of the colony were mainly Protestant English colonists and later Cromwellian era settlers who had also been given land in Ireland Ireland who apparently knew best how to manage the Irish. Funny thing is at least one Anglophile historian deliberately conflates these English settlers as being Irish and Irish "slavers". Where the historical records show the majority of the land was owned by the English settlers on the island. And of course some are only too happy to repeat that dis information verbatim.
@debhin1641 The slave rebellion did indeed happen on St Patricks day. What we know of that day is limited, but historical accounts of what happened no where state it was the Irish, who were targeted. Infact at the time of the rebellion, the Catholic Irish were prohibited from sitting on the colonial concil, voting in it, or even having a Catholic church and certainly not observing Catholic holy days. Unlike the anglophile historian who has tried to recast English settlers as "Irish". Howard Fergus, a native of Montserrat, professor of eastern Caribbean Studies, and its most celebrated historian had this to say about the Irish on Montserrat "During the heyday of plantation life in Montserrat, most of the Irish were only a few removes from slavery. In addition to carving out a livelihood from the and slopes of St Patrick's and St George's, their lives were a constant struggle for a place in the sun Discriminating laws were therefore enacted against them to prevent competition with the English and Irish Protestants for positions of authority in the society. Illiterate English were preferred in government administration to educated Irish Catholics" Yeah the Irish there sound like right barstards altogether...
You cannot be black and Irish Irish people are ethnically Gael. Two different things..look beyond an accent and names. Neighing doesn't make you a horse.
Looks like some cultural Imperialism going on there. Malcolm X would've had something to say. It reminds me of the Orange Order Lodges in Uganda, Nigeria and Ghana.
Yeah sure. The 10s of 1000s of Irish forcibley transported to the early English colonies to be worked to death, following the brutal invasion, colonisation and ethnic cleansing of Ireland is definitely just like an Orange lodge in Uganda 👍
I'm Irish and I live in Monterrey Mexico and us Irish fought proudly with Mexico during the Mexican American war over 200 Irish men called the San Patricios 🇲🇽☘️🇮🇪
So cool a chara 🇮🇪
Now imagine of the whole world were infused with the Irish spirit instead of the English one, voluntarily (as are truly so machoxists some to do so) or not (as tis was mostly the case). What OPENHEARTED, GENEROUS AND GREAT this world d had been...
Sean, you have to hit Argentina, where the oldest western hemisphere newspaper existed an Irish newspaper
There is the O'Neill's of Puerto Rico,they were mayors and there are law firms there now.
Small planet!🌍☘️🌎☘️🌍💚💚💚
This is amazing
Thank you, Davy
Amazing!! Didn't know that at all! 👍🏻🙏💚☘️
Irish Catholics we're a huge part of the Caribbean slave trade, because light skin slave with red hair was a status symbol in Europe just like Hollywood with the minority babies they adopt as a status symbol.. mainly it was a religious thing why the Catholic irish family's were targeted..But the irish held out for a long time but once they left the Church abortion came to the land and now Muhammad was the most common baby name in Dublin last year..While the irish elites are richer than ever the irish are losing Ireland..
Why would there be no Irish people in the Caribbean??? Idk maybe because my great grandma came to Trinidad from Ireland, I just find that an odd assumption
What happened on Montserrat was an incredible shame that crippled a very unique culture. Plymouth's destruction and the desolation of much of the northern island.
I love it, the black Irish. Beautiful.
I have to say that your videos are just the best. I love them
Thank you!
Omg that's crazy to think 😂😂😂 my god wow thanks davey would never known this ❤❤ love to the Caribbean Irish people ❤❤ 🇮🇪 😊xx
We Irish are everywhere Davy. Sure you couldn't wish to anyone else. ☘🇮🇪👍
so fascinating!
Im from Clonmel in County Tipperary. There is a Clonmel, in Jamaica.
the reason for that is... depressing, to say the least
@@Dulaman107
It is indeed. Following the brutal invasion, colonisation and ethnic cleansing of Ireland an estimated 850,000 were “wasted by the sword, plague, famine, hardship and banishment.” At the end of the war, vast numbers of Irish men, women and children were forcibly transported by the English government. Oliver Cromwell needed to populate the new colonies. Many were convicts, some indentured servants and very few of the deportees had committed any crimes. Deportation “beyond the sea, either within His Majesty’s dominions or elsewhere outside His Majesty’s Dominions” was one of their methods of dealing with the Irish issue and, more importantly, populating England’s new acquisition.
Large numbers of the Irish exiles died from heat and diseases. Some survived and left the places they knew as a rememberence to who they were.
😊
"What's yer name?"
"Eugene Fleming."
"Eugene Fleming... good man, Eugene. And what's yers?"
_
"Se🍀n"
I love your videos, Davy. It is deeply moving, to learn more about such a fierce, proud, beautiful people; and I'm humbled and proud to be descended from such men and women.
Hearing where else in the world you would find Irish communities is fascinating, as well!
Mrs Catherin Ryan, sounds like a teacher from the parish. Monsteratt, great bunch of lads
Keep up the great work lad 🏆🇨🇮👍🏻☘️☘️☘️
Wrong flag
That’s class
“SÉAN!”
That made me ROLF
Very cool!
Dont get more irish than Sean 😅
I was on barbados
Red legs is the name if the Irish colony left over from when Cromwell Enslaved them.Rihianna is a red-leg her father is a fenty so she is part Irish ..
Davy W
This just looks like Dublin nowadays
Well Cromwell sent a bunch of Irish captives to Barbados as slaves so this doesn’t surprise me at all. One of my ancestors was exiled this way,😊
The Irish were not sent as slaves to the West Indies. They were sent as indentured servants just like the English and Scots.
@@debhin that is incorrect. Cromwell sent Irish to Barbados as actual slaves, one of my ancestors suffered in Barbados as a slave. It was even more common among women. This was only one of the many cruelties Cromwell visited on the Irish who resisted his forces in Ireland.
My ancestor was offered indentured servitude by a Massachusetts merchant who purchased sugar in Barbados. Being an indentured servant was a step up for my ancestor and he was thrilled to take that offer.
Did the Irish suffer as much as African slaves? Well they had the distinct advantage of being able to assimilate into a mainly British society so it did not continue past one or two generations. Some joined African slaves in the Caribbean to develop a truly unique and rich society still prevalent in places like Monserrat.
I have heard the difference between Irish and African slaves described as that Irish slaves were actually indentured servants, and though this may have been true for some. Cromwell did not intend for his victims who survived his rampage through Ireland to be able to achieve freedom with their work.
@@debhinYeah thats a story the English often put about.
The reality is that 10s of 1000s of Irish men women and children were rounded up and transported against their will to the early English colonies to be worked to death during the 1500 and 1600s, following the brutal invasion, colonisation and ethnic cleansing of Ireland.
Even if they had been forced to sign contracts- then it was not "indentured servitude". Nor would they have understood where they were been sent to, most likely not being English speakers.
To quote: "Irish people being enslaved in the Caribbean by Cromwellian forces is contemporary with the events themselves and is based on historical truth"
It wasnt lifetime slavery, because they were sent there to die and die they did as large numbers of the Irish died as a result of the brutal conditions, heat and diseases.
Later some Irish were indeed transported as so called indentured servants. That's a whole other story.
@@Adaman368 Thank you for presenting this historical reality so eloquently and with clear authority.
@debhin They were both actually started as slaves, but after the slave law bill, foreign slaves were than refereed to as indentured, just a change in the name the job stated the same, sold as property zero contract. .no choice in the matter Cromwell transported them..Of catholic Scottish possible enslaved, bit protestant Scottish were the outliers in charge of the slaves, just like were in Ulster and US South. .
Bob Marley's farther was irish,,👑
Fleming is also a Scottish name. Not uncommon to be both.
Link to that full vid please bro
Rte achieve Eammon de butler
Red legs
These people are black and oof Irish identity but they are not the black Irish. That term merely mena sblack haired Irish people. BTW, the slave opwners here were Irish and a slave uprising drove them out.
Correct, the reason they celebrate St Patrick's day for a week is to commemorate the slave rebellion you mentioned. I'm assuming they picked St Patrick's day because they thought all the Irish slave masters would be drunk lol
@@debhin Lol, I forgot about the drunk part. Thanks for reminding me. I ilke site but clealry I am from a differnt Irsh identity strain from the narrator. My parnets' families, from East Clare, deValera's constituency, were active in the Irish Wat of Independence, and then totally suppported Collins efforts to build the new Irsih state. They suffered for tis, especially my father's family. I think the IRA members of my mother's familywere to scary or respected for her family to suffer as they diid grtetaly during then ar of Indepemdence.. The "up the Republic crowd" leaves out that the UK govt had good reason to fear a working cass/Communist revolution. They saw the army as their only defense shoudthat happen. An dthe lower ranks of officer were overhwlmingly Ulster Protetsnats, some of whem had already mutineed fanist being incoorportated into a single Irish Free State. Voolins understood this. ASnd deValera knw=ew that Collins hyad gotten the best that the Irish coud get from the British at that timel. Or so my tradiition sees it.
Incorrect. The island was an English colony. An English colony ran for and by the English Crown.
The first Irish transported there were sent from St Kitts where the English governor wanted rid of the tlthe Irish who had been sent there to work on the early plantations.
Montserrat was founded in 1632. The first slaves did not arrive until between 1650 and 1660. And at first in relatively small numbers. It is estimated that at this time there was over 1000 forced and indentured labourers working as on the plantations as field hands and general labourers . An early survey of the Island details the numbers involved. In 1667 the Irish on Montserrat rose in rebellion and aided the shortlived French capture of the island.
The slave rebellion of 1768 was undertaken at a time when the Irish on the island were prohibited from being members or voting for the Island Council which ruled from the Government House. The Irish were also prohibited from having a church on the island. It is also important to note there is no reference to Irish being the target of the rebellion in the historical record. It wasn't until 1828 that an act was passed that gave civil and political equality to the Irish in Montserrat. Ultimately the plot of the rebellion discovered and its participants were executed. The plantation owners were not driven out.
@@debhinNothing like a bit of rac ist sterotyping of the "drunk" Irish eh?
Firstly the Irish transported to Montserrat were in the vast majority those the English sent there to clear the island for the growing of Tobacco. These were followed by those transported during the Cromwellian cleansing of Ireland.
Overseeing the Irish on Montserrat in the early decades of the colony were mainly Protestant English colonists and later Cromwellian era settlers who had also been given land in Ireland Ireland who apparently knew best how to manage the Irish.
Funny thing is at least one Anglophile historian deliberately conflates these English settlers as being Irish and Irish "slavers". Where the historical records show the majority of the land was owned by the English settlers on the island. And of course some are only too happy to repeat that dis information verbatim.
@debhin1641 The slave rebellion did indeed happen on St Patricks day. What we know of that day is limited, but historical accounts of what happened no where state it was the Irish, who were targeted.
Infact at the time of the rebellion, the Catholic Irish were prohibited from sitting on the colonial concil, voting in it, or even having a Catholic church and certainly not observing Catholic holy days.
Unlike the anglophile historian who has tried to recast English settlers as "Irish". Howard Fergus, a native of Montserrat, professor of eastern Caribbean Studies, and its most celebrated historian had this to say about the Irish on Montserrat
"During the heyday of plantation life in Montserrat, most of the Irish
were only a few removes from slavery. In addition to carving out a livelihood from the and slopes of St Patrick's and St George's, their
lives were a constant struggle for a place in the sun
Discriminating laws were therefore enacted against
them to prevent competition with the English and Irish Protestants for
positions of authority in the society. Illiterate English were preferred in
government administration to educated Irish Catholics"
Yeah the Irish there sound like right barstards altogether...
Ah yes the British overseas territory 🇲🇸💚
🇮🇪🇻🇦
Montserrat is a BRITISH TERRITORY. It's not Irish. Stop pretending that is t is.
You cannot be black and Irish
Irish people are ethnically Gael. Two different things..look beyond an accent and names.
Neighing doesn't make you a horse.
That Sean at the end 😂😂😂 he must be irish
Check out some of the people names, the streets names, words and frazes and even some of the slang in from Jamaica.. ✌🇮🇪
Why are these people not allowed to live in Ireland???
Looks like some cultural Imperialism going on there. Malcolm X would've had something to say.
It reminds me of the Orange Order Lodges in Uganda, Nigeria and Ghana.
Yeah sure. The 10s of 1000s of Irish forcibley transported to the early English colonies to be worked to death, following the brutal invasion, colonisation and ethnic cleansing of Ireland is definitely just like an Orange lodge in Uganda 👍
They are mixed African and Irish, what cultural imperialism? 😂