DO's And DONT's - Electric Car | Edd China
Вставка
- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- I’ve popped into Bosch to see what you can and can’t do and what specialist training and equipment you will need to tackle the high voltage bits of your modern motorcar.
Is it any different to servicing your ICE car or will it shock or maim you in some horrible high tech way?
Watch all Workshop Diaries Updates here: bit.ly/3ItPqMR
China relishes the upcoming project, which invites viewers into his personal workshop facility in Buckinghamshire.
“I’m really excited to finally be able to bring this project to our fans as it is something they repeatedly have been asking for,” said China. “Workshop Diaries will let viewers really get stuck into the project and the detail of the fixes, and also provide a platform for instant feedback and interaction. It’s an exciting prospect and it’s great to finally get going!”
Follow Edd China on social media here:
Instagram: theeddchina
Twitter: theeddchina
Facebook: eddchina
#EddChina #WheelerDealers #WorkshopDiaries #Presenter #Mechanic #Motor #MotorSpecialist #Inventor #Toyota #Garage #Nissan #Tesla
I was worried at the start that it was going to be just a Bosch advert however the second half was very interesting - never thought working on a hybrid was so dangerous!
It’s dangerous alright I’ve worked on one never wanna work on one again
2022's best quote, " no one wants to be killed to death by a Prius"🤣🤣
NO one wants to drive or admit they own a prius....
Or drive one
Fatally!
"killed to death fatally"
Anyone driving a Prius is an uber driver until proven otherwise
II was a firefighter when the electric/ hybrid cars started hitting the roads. I got ahold of a video done by Toyota covering first responder safety during accident rescues. The bottom line is yes they can kill you of you come into contact with the high voltage components. There is supposed to be an automatic disconnect for the batteries after an accident however there are a number of failures with those. The recommendation was for first responders to wear "lineman's" safety gloves when using the jaws of life or a cutter incase the HV lines are cut into. Tere is a lot more in the course but yes they can be dangerous.
Edd comencé a seguirte ahora, te seguía desde el programa de tv, explicas bien y claro, saludos desde Buenos Aires Argentina !!!
Thanks Edd for teaching people 👍
What's happening with the Range Rover, it's been months since the last video.
Edd China The Auto Jedi Master On point knowledge gained from every post / video
Ed, extraordinary and very entertaining video, like everything you generate for us. I've always followed you, and I appreciate your work. Thank you very much..!
Thanks! That's why I'm keeping my ICE car. I know how to fix it.
But an EV, with around 30 moving parts, has considerably less chance of requiring fixing than an ICE car with over 2000 moving parts....... What isn't there can't break or wear out.
I don't know what was better. The insightful and instructional video or "The Edd China's a million ways to get killed to death fatally comedy show".
Thanks for the upload, Edd.
It's great to see you again Edd.
Goddamnit Edd, you just made me watch an ad for Bosch and somehow made me learn something and enjoy it as well! You sneaky bastard!
I always enjoy Edd's videos but of late they have been too few and far between. I wish they were more regular than they are and of course there are so many projects we would like to have updates on.
I remember when Prius came on market i work at Toyota that time. Blow in gloves and take away security switch was something i never forget.😃
Hola Excelente. Video y explicación...la verdad como siempre lo que enseñas y siempre vas avanzando así lo moderno en lo que está el mercado automotriz..gracias... desde quilmes desde América del Sur. Saludos 🤗 🤗
Great awareness to the home mechanic. I didn't know the engine can just spin up like that. Thx Edd
Hi, Mark! Yep, it's no different from shoeing a carthorse in the olden days; important to remember to fill its nosebag with oats before starting work lest Old Ned throws a wobbler and kicks your head off... 🤭
Seems extremely unlikely that the engine will randomly turn on if ignition is off. It’s not like Priuses are frequently turning on in the middle of the night. Disconnecting 12V is just good practice for certain jobs whether pure ICE or hybrid.
@@TheEquationSlayer I've replaced front brake pads and rotors on an early Prius about 5yrs ago and I was warned to disconnect the 12v battery, can't remember the reason but seemed like a good idea at the time and we had no problems, looks like we avoided being "killed to death fatally" which sounds rather nasty🙂
It doesn't just turn on randomly. Just don't leave the ignition turned on.
@@darylwalford8697 That's because the brake system will pressurise itself when you open the drivers door. Makes for quite a mess if one of the calipers is hanging off on the side and somebody opens the drivers door.
A Prius ? The devil itself has seduced Edd.
Hi Edd. Great to see you back with more great content! Been missing your weekly episodes-are you planning to pick things back up regularly soon?
@Figment He's not a YTer, he's just on YT as well. Also, you should check his profile and social tab, he mentioned that they are taking a well deserved rest. It would be preferrable if he made it more clear but ohh well...
Welcome back Edd. Hope you had a great summer!
Every morning I watch wheelers dealers in Sydney Australia 🇦🇺.miss your knowledge 🇦🇺🔥👍
Thank goodness you’re back! I’ve seen all your videos and you’re the best
This may have been commented before, tip when testing insulated gloves for cracks is to hold them front and back then open, instead of at the sides before flipping them to trap air. It creates more space inside the glove at the start and holds more air for leak check. Great video.
Another great video of Ed continuing his work to Inform and Educate a principle of the BBC which he may of watched when he was younger. Continue sharing your wisdom.
Awesome content Ed! Thank your for these videos!!!!
Great to have you back Edd
"Particularly by a Prius" did it for me.. Thumbs up!
A Edd China upload, Tonight is a good night for sure. The true master of car workshops.
Edd perfect work whit bosch !
I ♥️ engine diesel🛢 and gasoline ⛽
As usual, you brought complex concepts to the day-by-day world.
Thank you, please don't stop to do this!!! Cheers!
Thanks for this one, Edd!
My car is an '07 Honda Civic Hybrid. For anyone interested, its high-voltage isolation scheme requires removal of the rear seat back, then releasing a little access panel to reveal the switch, and then flipping said switch to the isolated position. The battery pack itself is mounted within an insulated capsule in the boot on the other side of the non-hinged rear seat, well hidden behind the fuzzy panels. Pretty great safety design but it limits the length of boards one can stow for any DIY woodworking projects!
Good to see a new video from you Edd
Jaguar wanted nearly £400 to service my 4 year old I-Pace. I looked at the job spec, it entailed changing the pollen filter, topping up the washer fluid and changing the brake fluid. Basically a rip off. The cabin filter I changed myself for £15, the washer fluid cost me £4.99 from Tesco for 5 litres, and the brake fluid change cost me £72 from my local garage. Total cost £91.99. With the £300 saving I'm going to Tenerife for a week!.
I drive a Prius 2 a lot of years.
The best car I ever have.
Since the display limit of 299.999 km has reached, the actual km range must be more than 300.000 km.
I like your instruction for a save working on the servicing of a hybrid car.
Thanks
Nice to see you back
Very interesting video Edd!
Looking forward though to what has been happening with a Land Rover 🤔😉
As usual, amazing content, thanks Edd! Greetings from Lithuania!
Everyone expect you do this kind of work.👍😎
A very interesting video which taught me a lot. Thank you for sharing the knowledge with us.
I wonder how many "home mechanics" are likely to be caught out by the dangers highlighted in this video?
Always familiarise yourself with safe working practices whatever you are working on. Plenty of dangers on an EV for the fearless dabbler.
Hi Edd!!, no tenia idea de lo peligroso que es manipular un auto eléctrico... que bueno verte de regreso....
Awesome video as always Edd.
*Safety tip for folks changing their wiper blades:* Keep hold of the wiper arm at all times, then when you've disconnected the wiper blade, _carefully lay it back down_ onto a clean cloth on the windscreen before reaching for the new wiper blade. It only takes a moment but it saves you a fortune every single time on avoiding a very expensive accident.
I've seen so many people leave it up out of bad habit (even the most experienced mechanics) then proceed to accidentally knock the wiper arm, which snaps down and cracks the windscreen.
Yes, most folks have windscreen cover on their insurance, but try explaining that little mistake to your service manager (aka significant other 😅) why their car now needs a new windscreen...
Yup, easy yes, safe hell no...
@@AttilaAsztalos What do you mean there mate?
@@mazdamaniac4643 Edd was saying changing the wiper was "easy and safe"; well, I do agree with easy, but my previous windshield wants to veto "safe"...
@@AttilaAsztalos Ahh, no worries mate. I've had a few close calls myself with this and after seeing the results happen to the guy working next to me in the workshop, I was "Nope." and the cloth on the windscreen from then on.
Agreed! Sadly learnt my lesson doing this the painful way… Excellent tip for the uninitiated. 👏 👏 🙌
Interesting thanks Ed nice to see you again 👍
I do have a soft spot for Bosch because their only shareholder is a non-profit, charitable foundation.
Instead of enriching shareholders and fund managers their profits go towards good causes.
I like ZF for the same reason.
thanks for remembering us. great video
gracias por acordarse de nosotros. gran video.
Welcome back, Edduardo! 😎
Hi edd. So happy for your return.
Very interesting. I laughed with those examples of what would be happening in case of the engine starting to spin while servicing :D
I'm not a fan of electric cars, but Edd did a great job explaining this procedure.
Edd, I work for a large telecom, where we use class 2 insulating gloves, as well as rubber mats. For a very short time, we switched to class 0, but found that that they had to be discarded at the end of their certification, whereas the class 2, that we've always used, can be returned for recertification. Prior to expiration, we order replacements, then return the old ones. We do the air test, but after the pull test, pulling the fingers apart while looking for the contrasting color to indicate any cracks or splits. then turn it inside out and repeat all that. Ours are black outside, red inside. Cheers!
That’s really interesting, I’ll look into what the differences in spec are…
I didn't realise working with high voltage systems is safer with an arm behind your back, I googled why. Thanks for that Edd
Thanks for the video. I have a plug-in hybrid Ford C-Max and never thought about the safety concerns that you showed. Good Job!
Reminds me on working with trolleybuses, especially the huge capacitor bank. You can either wait until it discharges via the bleeder resistor, or, if impatient, place a screwdriver between the terminals. Before that, make sure to say farewell to your screwdriver.
Did they actually give you the full course? That could make for some awesome content that's different from what most other youtube creators can do!
If they did that, DIYers wouldn't pay to do the course
Imi are trying to license working on EVs.
The level 3 course is pretty poor
Back in the 70''s The one hand behind you was taught to TV engineers when working on old 25Kv eht screen colour tubes also to discharge the set via the mains plug with a 1k 5watt resister to discharge the set completely, I made an adapter for the TV plug to plug in to with the resister build in. But one day when picking up an old mono TV, screen to my chest, I forgot the plug adapter Left in my van and the tube discharged via the mains plug in my hand to my chest, I never forgot to use the adapter after that.
Welcome back good ot see you amazing show true legend never forgotten 🤠🤠♥️
Congratulations, Edd, on achieving the highest level of sponsor product placement ever!
Yes missed you edd nice to see you back
感謝艾德講述油電車維修的前置安全，Edd,thanks👍
Thanks for this video Edd! 👍😁
Wowwwwwwwwwww, excelente recomendación, muy interesante y se agradece.
Saludos desde México
Greenhouse gasses...... good for your greenhouse ! A handy vid thanks.
Edd, Thank you to video 🙂👍
From looking at the special handling precautions shown, I'm thinking garage labor rates will probably double.
As will the number of inadequate mechanics.
Yep. Mechanics will have to do courses and purchase insulated tools, neither of which will be inexpensive
Not so. The first service on my Kia eNiro cost me less than £90. Both guys at my local (village) garage have been on the HEVRA course, and are certified to work on electric vehicles.
Bought my first hybrid, an 07 Prius, the beginning of this year and it’s been great. Had 201k miles when I bought it and 223k now with the only work needed was the coolant inverter pump went bad(1hr job + $100 part) and I just replaced the struts all around last week from being worn out. Otherwise it’s just been oil changes, filters, and tires. Even has original brake pads!
Brilliant 😎👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I build valve amps and repair valve radios as a hobby. Great fun. The one hand behind your back is par for the course as 1200v AC is often exposed inside the equipment. If you are very careful it is safe though I have been bitten in the past. Only by about 200v but that was scary enough.
Good advice. I do the valve thing too.
I once accidentally brushed against the DC link of an industrial inverter. That's 3-phase mains, rectified (about 600V DC). It pulled a muscle in my wrist that ached for over a week - and that was a very lucky escape.
Missed you, great to see you today 😀
Thanks Edd! Welcome back!
As expected, good concise practical demonstration. 👍🇬🇧
Hi Edd
Please do more videos, we watched Wheeler Dealer because of you, how easy you explain everything and nice presentation
Interesting stuff, really learned a lot from watching this. Well done.
Yet to be convinced these are environmentally an improvement on an economic 4-pot ICE.
Once you factor in the impact of mining eg lithium, copper and iron ore - the impact of the power stations you use to charge it - and the high cost of replacing batteries after ~10 years of usage probably making most of them scrap...
But have to start somewhere I suppose. Interesting insight!
Don’t forget to factor in the drilling of the oil, the shipping to a refinery, the energy to refine it, the shipping to the fuel station and the fact that when we bother to run the planet on renewable energy then the EV route makes a lot more sense. It’s definitely part of the answer.
I can see a lot of fried back street cowboy mechanics in the future.
"Bisch basch Bosch" made me chuckle 😂
Hi Edd,
As a trained HV mechanic and designer of an electric conversion kit for a specific vehicle, I'm having some trouble with your video. For servicing the engine and brakes it's absolutely not necessary to place the HV battery in a safe mode.
Removing the key, and maybe disconnecting the 12Vdc battery will de-energize the contractors and therefor isolate the HV battery.
When do you need to put the HV Battery in a safe condition: when working on HV components, cabling or working in close proximity to these parts. This last item might be a reason to disconnect the HV Batt during service, but in my opinion it's a bit overdoing it.
Would be wonderful if you also did "will it start" videos like Mustie1 or others... Was so much fun that you repaired and explained every step you did before... 🤗🤗 Love you Edd China
Nice to see you back pal
I'm going to the shop next week. Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Boooossscchhhhhh.
Welcome back Edd
Just an fyi from a telecoms eng, 48v has a hell of a kick. But DC means you don’t get hooked up.
I love videos like this 😍
Hi Edd, thanks for the very informative video which is timely because my friend just bought a new Hyundai Ioniq PHEV, we have well equipped workshop and normally service our own cars but the Ioniq will very likely be going to the dealer to be serviced especially since being "killed to death fatally" sounds particularly nasty.
This video was just one big Bosch advertisment
May I make an observation? Edd, you forgot to maintain the fan of the battery; it gets full of debris since it’s inside the cabin by the passenger side... I enjoy watching your films learn a lot thank you
Good tip, thanks, something to look out for next time!
Very well done 👍
Are we gonna get back to weekly workshop diaries soon?
Alas, the day of the shade tree mechanics is gone. Oh well I feel lucky to have been a child of the 50'. Thank you, take care and cheers!!
Quite interesting video about managing the danger of a missing check on an electrical circuit. I remember have changed an internal battery on a wireless Bosch sander and made a mistake while soldering poles, only 12 v but it hurts when I accidentally touch a pole with my tin welder. I should have done a course like Edd about safety on managing batteries first.😅 Nobody thinks can be harmful a disconnected battery until you accidentally touch it.
I know how to change a windscreen wiper now. Thank you Edd😘
Edd is back and on form, well done Edd.
Always keen to see another video. This one was just as good as the usual. Nice work 👍
I really learned something today, thanks Edd.
Whilst my suspicion of the green credentials of electric and especially hybrid vehicles have been reinforced by this video; I believe that pure electric vehicles can now be driver/owner maintained, with the specialist stuff being left to the professional. Just like DIYers do now. Removing the 12v supply to disable the contactors would be enough for me, to do say a brake service.
We just need that magic battery technology that weighs no more than a tank of petrol, charges in five minutes, is made from green, recyclable materials and lasts longer than the car itself!
Or hydrogen fuel cells.
Personal transport must continue. It's a basic human right!
carefull with that, the car might be trickle charging the 12V from the big pack as you were undoing it. which could mean that the 12V system was still powered. Double check that the 12V system is completely dead after disconnecting the battery before you trust that.
Check the service manual for the minimal actions needed for your particular car to make it safe to work on.
Thank you.👍🙂
Great video, very informative.
Really great vid Edd 👍
I wouldn’t mind doing that course Edd.
Think Ill stick to ICE car, less hassle, and about half the price or more than an EV.
Edd please when are you going to fix the Land Rover ?
Edd is grade A qualified Bosch :D Always has been.
Edd, you should have called the video "Will it kill you to death fatally?" And only 400v? Pffft! Try 25kv from an old CRT TV tripler. But yeah, the most dangerous part is the current. As little as 0.1 amps across the old ticker can kill you to death most fatally.
Was looking like a Bosch puff piece but interesting in the end.