@@matteorepetti9761 Hi, great question. The answer is: no you cannot. Striking with the tibia is forbidden and will attract a warning in Savate Assaut or Combat. The shoe/boot must be used as the weapon for all kicks - indeed the art is named after the shoe :-)
@@LondonSavate Question can you strike with the heel in a Revers lateral? Also have you heard of Superfoot Wallace? ua-cam.com/video/L13oSnxqdgQ/v-deo.html
@@FrankJeeves (1) no, the rule book specifies exactly that revers lateral must be made with the sole of an extended foot. You may use the heel for chassé only. (2) yes, it was recommended to me once to rely on kicks, as he does, with a left hook as the primary punching weapon.
Great teacher, fantastic training philosophy.! Trained with James near Waterloo. His chase frontal was very good 🤣🤣 really hope to catch up again soon Patrick from Brittany 🤔
I always liked this martial art. Like, most others are kind of tame with shoes, but this one specifically tells you to obliterate your enemy with your shoe, grind their bones into the ground with your heel, poke their eyes out using your toe
le terme approprié serait plutôt "tireur". Sinon, je trouve incroyable que de voir cet art martial être pratiqué partout dans me le monde mais aussi peu médiatisé en France comme la lutte gréco-romaine.
What I like about dis is dat u could do those kicks without needing to use crazy fitness like flexibility or balance control like u do in karate. U just let the weight of the shoes do its thing
I don't think it was intentional either because the Kicking technique changes when using shoes. But yes, like Fencing, Savate is very elegant and rightfully so.
Aren't you forgetting the chasse bas (forgive me if I've written it wrong, my French stinks)? Or are you including it together with the chasse frontal? I don't remember if it's allowed in Savate competition but I believe so.
Hi, yes chassé bas is a permitted kick. 'Bas' means low and I haven't put in the demo all the different heights that each kick can be used (bas, médian, figure).
There have been plenty of wheel kicks spinning side kicks etc producing impressive KO’s across many organizations over many years. Literally the definition of effective against trained fighters.
To be exactly precise, there are two kinds of "coup de pied bas" : "Coup de pied bas de déséquilibre" (basically sweep, shown in the video) and the "Coup de pied bas de frappe", which is the same with a straight trajectory, like a football pass in the shin. Also "Chassé lateral" can be called a "Chassé", you dont have to precise it. When you precise it, its for the "Chassé frontal". Although nice video
Great question. Do you mean the effect on you, or the effect on your partner? For the first, I found it took me a while, (years ago) to learn to control the weight of the boot when kicking. It lags a little compared with kicking barefoot. You must practise often with footwear. If you mean the effect on the partner, a boot can have a harder sole and, importantly, a harder tip, meaning that toe kicks can penetrate a guard and still hurt.
Well yes with that attitude. I can discern differences, however, between using shoes and kicking barefoot; between rule systems; between scoring points vs knockouts; between Savate and other kicking styles.
Not in Kung Fu no, but Karate did incorporate Savate kicks in its modern form after French army instructors came to help Japan modernize its own army so it's normal if you see similarities.
Would you use the tip of your toes because of the boots for the front kick or even roundhouse for that matter or would that just hurt you the same as without shoes?
Avoid the tip of your toes unless you are wearing steel toed boots or something unless you are desperate and your life depends on it. It is not an effective attack. For the fouetté (wheal kick) practice striking with the heel and for extra range the ball of the foot.
Hi Andrea - my name is Dylan Hintz and I'm a White Glove ranked member of the United States Savate Federation. We do exist and we are working to reinstate our workshops and ranking events going forward. If you'd like more info, please reach out to me at my email address or on IG. saga.action.arts@gmail.com @saga_action_arts
@@LondonSavate Thanks for your reply, revers frontal is little similar haha. Yes I'm from Nice we have some good clubs and I would like to test thats why I'm curious about Savate. ☺
@@nicolaschaillan3871 yes, revers frontal is similar, but you cannot hit on the way down. In Nice, you are lucky, I hope you get to train with Frank May!
Is it true that Taekwondo kicks came from Savate? I've seen lots of random comments point that out but it doesn't make sense to me because Korea already had something similar called Taekyeon.
A lot of flexibility comes from strength in lower back and legs. Without knowing your routine, I can't tell which piece of the puzzle needs work, but the triangle of (1) lower back strengthening (2) dynamic stretching (3) adherence to good technique would usually get you there, all else being well and injury-free.
Not all the kicks. The main Savate kick is the ax kick which is not hear and only one of the the "revers frontal" is an inside out crescent kick not the revers of a thrust kick! Where is the outside in crescent kick and the ax-kick? The ax-kick is the number one premier kick of Savate? It should say allowed in Savate competition! I am sharing this it is well done.
Hi, there doesn't seem to be enough evidence to support that claim, no. There is tenuous evidence, however, to stretch to say that the development of kata shares a historical root with the French 'four faces' method developed at the military academy in Joinville which had some exposure in Japan from the 1870s.
He is so thin and from a combat perspective he makes mistakes ion posture like sticking his back out as a counterweight. Mostly it is because he is so thin and is not kicking a target. Actually his kicks are very good.
That's what the international rules say, yes. They do offer a couple of other ways to do revers latéral than I have shown here, but this is the full set. Did you have another in mind?
It's a common belief, but I've not seen any strong evidence for it. By all accounts it was developed in situ in France in the early nineteenth century, I've not seen anything compelling an outside influence on that.
@@LondonSavate So this fight style was born in France? Are there some evidences French people used this technique in the Middle Ages or Ancient times, before they arrival to East Asia?
@@maksymmerkulow5196 Short story : Karate incorporated Savate kicks and not the opposite. Long story : The fighting style was born of sailors south of France due to two restrictions : fencing with sword was illegal, punching each other was forbidden on boats. As such they designed a fighting style that would use the very shoe as a weapon (savate is slang for shoe in French) with kicks inspired by fencing attacks. The weight and hardness of the shoe making those impacts more hurtful than a bare foot could, the style oriented itself more towards control and less commitment rather than heavy impacts, leading to the creation of maybe the first modern point system of any martial arts for competition. Punches were also incorporated after one of the first practitioner had a sparring match with a British boxer. The art became very popular within the French army at the time and when instructors were sent to help Japan modernize its own army they introduced the local troops to their style and training regiment. Coincendently it was at that time that some wanted to modernize Karate that was dwindling in popularity, they then incorporated the point system, katas and flashy kicks from Savate, making the new art extremely popular and leading to a Karate golden age. Since Karate is more well known than Savate it lead to uncultured people, mainly Americans, assuming Savate copied Karate.
@@LondonSavate , yes, exactly, sir. I've written quite short my question, but you've guessed what I mean. I've asked, because in karate and I believe in kickboxing these kicks exist. And what about the kicks with spin? I mean- the spinning hook kick and the spinning back kick, are they allowed in savate?
It amazes me how much you can do with only three kinds of punches and six kinds of kicks!
Exactly! Savate is an art in which the aesthetic is gained from how you put together relatively few things in endless ways.
@@LondonSavate one question you can strike with your shin in savate?
@@matteorepetti9761 Hi, great question. The answer is: no you cannot. Striking with the tibia is forbidden and will attract a warning in Savate Assaut or Combat. The shoe/boot must be used as the weapon for all kicks - indeed the art is named after the shoe :-)
@@LondonSavate Question can you strike with the heel in a Revers lateral? Also have you heard of Superfoot Wallace? ua-cam.com/video/L13oSnxqdgQ/v-deo.html
@@FrankJeeves (1) no, the rule book specifies exactly that revers lateral must be made with the sole of an extended foot. You may use the heel for chassé only. (2) yes, it was recommended to me once to rely on kicks, as he does, with a left hook as the primary punching weapon.
Great teacher, fantastic training philosophy.! Trained with James near Waterloo. His chase frontal was very good 🤣🤣 really hope to catch up again soon Patrick from Brittany 🤔
Hi Patrick. Hope you are doing well.
I really like this video, thank you!
I always liked this martial art. Like, most others are kind of tame with shoes, but this one specifically tells you to obliterate your enemy with your shoe, grind their bones into the ground with your heel, poke their eyes out using your toe
Brother you're like Majima, everywhere lol
@@gianncmedina7805 true that
Great video! Savateur from Finland.
le terme approprié serait plutôt "tireur". Sinon, je trouve incroyable que de voir cet art martial être pratiqué partout dans me le monde mais aussi peu médiatisé en France comme la lutte gréco-romaine.
@@ligneotetsvdo1341Ihmeellinen ajatus, että suomalaisen pitäisi osata ranskaa. Toki osaan useita kieliä: Ruotsia, eestiä, englantia ja vähän espanjaa.
What I like about dis is dat u could do those kicks without needing to use crazy fitness like flexibility or balance control like u do in karate. U just let the weight of the shoes do its thing
The weight of the shoes does make a difference. But you still need fitness and balance control ;)
This is awesome!
Thanks!
Cool breakdown coach!
No worries, thanks. Hope your training is going well!
merci !!! j'aime la savate
Salut!
Great video short
Bravo, very useful! Thank you!
This IS savate thankx For demonstrate
Bro was Zesty af during this whole vid
The French are always elegant
@@mizutxkoOui oui.
I don't think it was intentional either because the Kicking technique changes when using shoes. But yes, like Fencing, Savate is very elegant and rightfully so.
Aren't you forgetting the chasse bas (forgive me if I've written it wrong, my French stinks)? Or are you including it together with the chasse frontal? I don't remember if it's allowed in Savate competition but I believe so.
Hi, yes chassé bas is a permitted kick. 'Bas' means low and I haven't put in the demo all the different heights that each kick can be used (bas, médian, figure).
@@LondonSavate hi James? remember training near Waterloo with you years ago.. Your chase frontal was very good!
Collier, Epaule, Cotelette, Selle, Poitrine, Gigot, Mutton Shot
Oh my god you know that
XD
Merci pour ces vidéos intéressantes
Avec plaisir.
Wow, thanks. So few kicks (no spinning kicks) but maybe there's a good reason for this
I guess you need to watch this video next :) ua-cam.com/video/bSrsS3jzQXo/v-deo.html
Because spinning kicks don't work against a trained fighter . It's for show
There have been plenty of wheel kicks spinning side kicks etc producing impressive KO’s across many organizations over many years. Literally the definition of effective against trained fighters.
@@ketsugo3 You're way off base mate. Requires training to use them properly though.
@@ketsugo3 Ummm they work. Wtf are u talking about? Do u train?
Looks like a dancing tutorial, the music matches the kicks
One tries.
To be exactly precise, there are two kinds of "coup de pied bas" : "Coup de pied bas de déséquilibre" (basically sweep, shown in the video) and the "Coup de pied bas de frappe", which is the same with a straight trajectory, like a football pass in the shin.
Also "Chassé lateral" can be called a "Chassé", you dont have to precise it. When you precise it, its for the "Chassé frontal".
Although nice video
ua-cam.com/video/qljVvTemXLE/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/Tuv7JcHjGxY/v-deo.html
Respectful
Gracias desde España.
How much does different footwear change the effect of your kicks ?
Great question. Do you mean the effect on you, or the effect on your partner?
For the first, I found it took me a while, (years ago) to learn to control the weight of the boot when kicking. It lags a little compared with kicking barefoot. You must practise often with footwear. If you mean the effect on the partner, a boot can have a harder sole and, importantly, a harder tip, meaning that toe kicks can penetrate a guard and still hurt.
Literally all these moves are already in kung fu and karate.
Your point being?
@@LondonSavate All the martial arts are the same. Nothing is unique
Well yes with that attitude.
I can discern differences, however, between using shoes and kicking barefoot; between rule systems; between scoring points vs knockouts; between Savate and other kicking styles.
Not in Kung Fu no, but Karate did incorporate Savate kicks in its modern form after French army instructors came to help Japan modernize its own army so it's normal if you see similarities.
@@grandmanitou6563 are you basing that on Jesse Enkamp's video?
I remember Remy character in Street Fighter 3
What about spinning kicks? Spinning back kick and spinning hook kick?
Yes, you can do spinning kicks. But they will be spinning chassé, fouetté, or revers - so they are just variants of the demonstrated kicks.
Would you use the tip of your toes because of the boots for the front kick or even roundhouse for that matter or would that just hurt you the same as without shoes?
Yes, we use toes for the fouetté (roundhouse) as the boot offers protection and this affords extra range.
Avoid the tip of your toes unless you are wearing steel toed boots or something unless you are desperate and your life depends on it. It is not an effective attack. For the fouetté (wheal kick) practice striking with the heel and for extra range the ball of the foot.
My name is Andrea Lomas and I'm looking for savate schools in USA I went to the US Federation if you heard of it is it the real deal
Hi Andrea - my name is Dylan Hintz and I'm a White Glove ranked member of the United States Savate Federation. We do exist and we are working to reinstate our workshops and ranking events going forward.
If you'd like more info, please reach out to me at my email address or on IG.
saga.action.arts@gmail.com
@saga_action_arts
Also where in USA are you based? I can help you find a specific school.
@@SagaActionArts well im in houston but soon i will travel to other places where savate schools are located
Saga action art. Happy to hear it is growing! I love savate, do you know of any places in or near Mississippi?
Nice sir
Can you use axe kick ? Thanks for your videos !
Great question! And the answer is - no you can't . In Savate the axe kick is forbidden.
Do you have a club near you?
@@LondonSavate Thanks for your reply, revers frontal is little similar haha.
Yes I'm from Nice we have some good clubs and I would like to test thats why I'm curious about Savate. ☺
@@nicolaschaillan3871 yes, revers frontal is similar, but you cannot hit on the way down. In Nice, you are lucky, I hope you get to train with Frank May!
@@LondonSavate He is famous, I will go !
@@LondonSavate I come from a karate background. Why are kicks forbidden?
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Is it true that Taekwondo kicks came from Savate? I've seen lots of random comments point that out but it doesn't make sense to me because Korea already had something similar called Taekyeon.
I don't know enough about taekwondo history to answer that, but it does seem unlikely, yes.
Это балет?
Hey. How could I get my legs more flexible?
A lot of flexibility comes from strength in lower back and legs. Without knowing your routine, I can't tell which piece of the puzzle needs work, but the triangle of (1) lower back strengthening (2) dynamic stretching (3) adherence to good technique would usually get you there, all else being well and injury-free.
It looks like you training to dance Hakken)
Not all the kicks. The main Savate kick is the ax kick which is not hear and only one of the the "revers frontal" is an inside out crescent kick not the revers of a thrust kick! Where is the outside in crescent kick and the ax-kick? The ax-kick is the number one premier kick of Savate? It should say allowed in Savate competition! I am sharing this it is well done.
The axe kick is illegal in Savate.
I need to wack someone in a quiet ally - what's the best way? By way, love your videos. x
Silencer gun
Have you trained with Ollie Batts?
Sir, is there any Savate group which copyright claims that most of Karate's kicks came from Savate?
Hi, there doesn't seem to be enough evidence to support that claim, no. There is tenuous evidence, however, to stretch to say that the development of kata shares a historical root with the French 'four faces' method developed at the military academy in Joinville which had some exposure in Japan from the 1870s.
I'm sorry but why does this look funny ?
He is so thin and from a combat perspective he makes mistakes ion posture like sticking his back out as a counterweight. Mostly it is because he is so thin and is not kicking a target. Actually his kicks are very good.
So funny but very effective.
There are some constraints in this discipline, but it brings the most important combinations in all boxing type
Are there anymore Savate kicks than what you just performed?
That's what the international rules say, yes. They do offer a couple of other ways to do revers latéral than I have shown here, but this is the full set.
Did you have another in mind?
@@LondonSavate I was just about more things from Savate
It is Daniel Walters?
One question: was Savate based on oriental martial arts? I heard it was brought to France by sailors, travellers and soldiers.
It's a common belief, but I've not seen any strong evidence for it. By all accounts it was developed in situ in France in the early nineteenth century, I've not seen anything compelling an outside influence on that.
@@LondonSavate But where did this kicks come from?
@@maksymmerkulow5196 why do you believe they need to come from anywhere else? That's exactly my point.
@@LondonSavate So this fight style was born in France? Are there some evidences French people used this technique in the Middle Ages or Ancient times, before they arrival to East Asia?
@@maksymmerkulow5196 Short story : Karate incorporated Savate kicks and not the opposite.
Long story : The fighting style was born of sailors south of France due to two restrictions : fencing with sword was illegal, punching each other was forbidden on boats. As such they designed a fighting style that would use the very shoe as a weapon (savate is slang for shoe in French) with kicks inspired by fencing attacks. The weight and hardness of the shoe making those impacts more hurtful than a bare foot could, the style oriented itself more towards control and less commitment rather than heavy impacts, leading to the creation of maybe the first modern point system of any martial arts for competition. Punches were also incorporated after one of the first practitioner had a sparring match with a British boxer. The art became very popular within the French army at the time and when instructors were sent to help Japan modernize its own army they introduced the local troops to their style and training regiment. Coincendently it was at that time that some wanted to modernize Karate that was dwindling in popularity, they then incorporated the point system, katas and flashy kicks from Savate, making the new art extremely popular and leading to a Karate golden age. Since Karate is more well known than Savate it lead to uncultured people, mainly Americans, assuming Savate copied Karate.
About what is the fouetté Kick about?
can you expand on this question?
what about the matrix style savate kick?
Do you mean débordement, beginning of this video? ua-cam.com/video/Mrq3OQCyp_g/v-deo.html
Is there a kick which is opposite to reverse frontal?
Aha! An excellent question. I guess you mean an interior revers, hitting with the inside of the foot? That would not be permitted in Savate rules.
@@LondonSavate , yes, exactly, sir. I've written quite short my question, but you've guessed what I mean. I've asked, because in karate and I believe in kickboxing these kicks exist. And what about the kicks with spin? I mean- the spinning hook kick and the spinning back kick, are they allowed in savate?
Each of the kicks in this video can be done spinning as well (not by the names you give though). ua-cam.com/video/bSrsS3jzQXo/v-deo.html
@@LondonSavate , thank you! The spins make thd kicking part of the game much more interesting, spectacular and unpredictable. :)
@@adnanadil4498 I should make a spin-kick compilation, but you'll see a few here ua-cam.com/video/EU5c5LPWSzo/v-deo.html
These kickks are obviously French 😂
What's funny is you apparently think this is an insult.
@@LondonSavate Nah mate, you got me wrong. I was just observing the style and it shouts French stereotipically. 😃
@@TomRiddle-2 fair play. Have you ever fought or trained in France?
@@LondonSavate No, no, just stereotipically saying, the elegance in the movement reminds me of fencing.
DID REALLY english steal our martial art???WTF!!! (i kidding)
Damn right I did! (Kidding)
@@LondonSavate glad u accept the only truth, england is a french colony!:)
It's not all kicks
Horrible kicks
Ignorant comment.
That's why Bruce Lee chose them to include in his own martial art, and many kick boxers consider savate kicks superior to theirs... ^^
Can you use a dummy to kick with so I can know what spot I’m supposed to be kicking
e.g. ua-cam.com/video/pRmTNneiTeM/v-deo.html
@@LondonSavate thanks