Great job explaining the process. Helped me a bunch. I had instructions with mine, but like most, they seem to leave out just a couple of things I would have liked to know when putting together. Your piece was precise and to the point. No long explanations. I appreciate that. Great job. Thank you.
I purchased this miter stand and just finished putting it together by following your directions and it was a breeze because of your video. Thanks so much for taking the time to put this video together to help everyone out. If I could just add a comment that may help....I have a 12 Dewalt miter saw so I thought I would adjust the tool mount secondary stop so my saw would be more centred on the stand.....big mistake, by doing this it caused the support leg to bind when opening or closing the stand. I couldn't tell this until I had the saw attached. Once I put the tool mount secondary stop back to the original position, the stand now goes up and down very smooth. Thanks again for your great video and stay safe and healthy!
Well i looked at the manual after following your instruction. Excellent video and i put the manual down after reading two sentences. Now I will use your video on how to set up and tear down. This stand is incredible.
Thank you for posting this video. It is the best I have seen to be able to put this stand together. I bought this stand and it came without instructions. Do not understand why. But with the help of your video I was able to put it together pretty easily. I wish more assembly videos were as thourough as yours. Again, thank you for posting this. Great Help!!
Very well done, thanks for this - I'll still glance at the manual, but now I don't feel I'll need to follow it step by step because you covered it all.
Thanks so much posting this cool video. I am in my garage and I literally got stuck on the part about the “fastener access window”. Kept scratching my head and reading the instructions before I thought hell someone has to have to have posted a video on this. Have an awesome one thanks! You saved me a headache.
Hi, great instructions, very clear and concise. I have just bought the stand and already have the similar stand for my Bosch table saw. Great fit for my small workshop, I can easily put up and down so no need to keep up and take up precious space. I tend to take them outside to use if weather permits.
That's a nice stand for sure, I really like that it has the options for a work stop when making repetitive cuts. I had bought a Ridgid MSU back when I got my saw and it works but it doesn't have a built in work stop feature. As usual, great review and how-to G, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for making this video, the instructions were great. The stand is very impressive. It's replacing a Dewalt DWX726, and I couldn't be happier. The Dewalt was overpriced junk, this Bosch is a quality stand.
Glad it was helpful. I'm not familiar with the Dewalt stand but did watch one video. The main thing that would turn me off on that stand is that it uses a gas strut to aid in lifting. It will go bad over time and warrant a replacement. That's a no go in my book. The other thing I noticed is there is no quick disconnect to use the saw without the stand. You would need to unbolt it. Both my Ryobi stand and this one has that feature. That's my second no go. I didn't think any deeper than those two observations. I'm still completely satisfied with mine. Good luck with yours. Take care, G.
Mine didn't come with instructions, so this was incredibly helpful - thanks! One thing that helped when putting the rail on was laying the thing on it's back so you're putting the nuts on from the top and not the side. I can't tell you how many times I dropped those stupid nuts! Also, I used needle nose pliers to hold the nut in the track while turning the bolt rather than trying to screw the nut onto the bolt in that tiny track. Bosch is always an excellent product, but they really need to work on the design of the rail attachment!
Yeah, that part was a pain for sure. Good tips on how you got it accomplished. Agreed, they need to make it easier to attach the rail. Glad it worked out though. Take care, G.
I love this video and the T4B is a great product, however I respectfully suggest that probably if you need to watch this video to set up your T4B, it is going to take you longer than 30 minutes to build. Like ghostses, installing the aluminum rack was the most difficult step, I understand why he could not show how he did it, the way I handled it was that I actually used the extension on the rack to line the holes up with the stand. It was slow and tortuous, but it did work for me, my total time to build was about 4 hours. Yes, I acknowledge I am at best and advanced beginner, but we need great tools too. I strongly recommend the T4B but know that it will take a while to assemble.
Thanks Ralph! Great tip on using the extension to get things lined up! Much better than my pain. It's a pain either way, but yours seems to include a third hand to assist. I'm sure your tip will help others. Good luck and take care, G.
Good review and nice stand... I have an older gravity rise stand that came with my 8 year old Bosch (4100-09) 10" worksite table saw and love it. That said, the only Achilles heel to the stand are the wheels. I couldn't tell from your video if Bosch is still using pneumatic tires as they did when mine was new but if so they're OK but always seemed to deflate regularly. Since I only run the saw around my garage and never over rough terrain the way a contractor might, I choose to replace the wheels. I found a set of comparably sized hard rubber (non-pneumatic) wheels at HF some years ago and haven't encountered any problems. Best of all I never have flat tires anymore or need to remember and check air pressure... :)
+hiptech Thanks! I've been using it quite a bit and couldn't be more pleased. I should have noted the tires, but didn't think of it. They're either semi-pneumatic or solid rubber. Either way, they won't ever go flat. It sounds like Bosch has changed them over the years- at least on this stand. It sounds like your upgrade to the HF wheels was a great thing to do. I can't stand having to keep up with small pneumatic tires. They're either aired up or they're completely flat- most of the time flat...lol. I might have one of their work-site saws on my radar in the future. Good to hear yours has been serving you well! Either that, or pull the legs off my contractor saw and mount it to a gravity rise stand if possible. I haven't looked into either, but that's my plan...lol. Take care, G.
+ghostses Just an update... after purchasing the GCM12SD last month I've been diligently watching Amazon (and other sites) for a price drop on this stand, no luck as the price seems stuck at $299. Well my weekly ritual of visiting HD every Sunday finally paid off. Yesterday after walking through the entrance my eyes glanced down near the return desk and low and behold there on the floor under a sign marked "Clearance" (siting among several "decent deals") was a familiar large blue unopened box (with factory strapping). That's right just like the miter saw HD has decided (for whatever insane reason) to blow these Bosch tools out. Needless to say my heart raced and I immediately recognized a manager who I previously shared a few conversations with. I told him I was very interested in this stand and asked if he might consider a "good customer" discount? It may have helped that I am remodeling my bath rooms and spend a great amount of time (and money) there. He seemed to think about this longer than I expected but in the end gave me my discount. Bottom line, instead of the going $299 the item was marked down with a clearance tag to $209 and with a $20 discount I picked it up for $190 plus tax or little over $200! Not exactly the stuff of dreams but definitely a price I could live with :) He also mentioned that they had 3 of these in inventory but the odd thing was prior to yesterday I hadn't seen any large Bosch tools anywhere in the store (believe me I looked). My advice to anyone interested is to check with your local HD and ask a manager if they have any in inventory and would be willing to discount. I suspect floor space may be an issue in most stores especially during the holidays and they appear motivated to move these...
Menards had the saw for 598 and if you buy the stand with it stand is 150 (149 discount) good until july 15 I believe. Thanks for the video just put saw and stand together its wonderful
That's a pretty good deal Vickie! I'm glad the video was useful. I agree, the combination of saw and stand are great. I couldn't be more pleased with mine. Take care, G.
Very Nice early Christmas gift from Dad to go with your new Bosch Miter Saw. I wonder who will be the first to borrow that beauty or you to do some on location work now that there is no excuse for mobility? (Telephone rings, Hello, oh hi Dad. Come over to your house and visit you say? And bring what with me?).
+MRrwmac That it was Mac! That's true, no excuse for mobility now. Funny you mention the the way it REALLY works in my life! We take our daughter to my folks every Sunday to visit. My Dad must spend the other six days making lists on what he needs done/help with...lol. I don't mind though. Come to think of it, he tells me stories of his Dad doing the same thing to him....lol. I guess I need to give my daughter the skills to do so I can do the same to her as she gets older...lol. G.
Great video. What saw did you use? Also, if you push the mitre gauge to 45 degrees or more what is the dimension in storage front to back if you know. Many thanks!!!!
Thanks Jeff! This is the saw I used. ua-cam.com/video/KANMZJJXDXk/v-deo.html I can't say what the dimensions are when stored in a miter setting. Good luck, G.
Yes, it did help - a lot. Why? Because some numpty forgot to include the handbook and build instructions in my delivery. Your video saved me hours of fiddling about and, doubtless, much swearing. So, thanks very much indeed. You should get a job at Bosch....
That's no good they didn't include the manual Ian. I'm glad the video was helpful with putting yours together. I'd probably take a job should they ask...lol. Good luck, G.
Good review and subscribed. I wish it would work with my Hitachi C12RSH without the use of plywood for a mounting plate. I may have to go with the DeWalt DWX726, but bummer about that is the saw wouldn't be removable due to its design.
+Mario Monti Thanks Mario. I read one question on Amazon that asked if it your saw would fit, and they said yes. I, of course can't confirm that, or if they used a plate of some sort. I took a peak at the Dewalt stand and agree with you about not being able to remove the saw. The other thing I noticed is there appear to be no stops for repetitive cuts. That alone would be a deal breaker for me, but over all it looks like a fine product. You might check out the Ridgid AC9945 as another option. It does have removable mounts as well as stops. I can only vouch for the Bosch stand though, and really like it. Good luck, G.
They're pretty stout Chris, but will sag some with heavier material- not unlike most stands. I compensate for the sag by raising the support arm till the stock is resting flat on the table. I'm still extremely pleased with the stand. Hope this helps, G.
ghostses ok thanks for the response. I had a RIDGID that sagged over 2" with a 2x4. I wasn't pleased. I'll look into this one based on your review. Have a good one!
No problem Chris! That's not good. I don't recall mine sagging anywhere near that, especially with a 2x2. I don't think they have them on display for checking out, but I could be wrong. If you do pick one up, drop your thoughts on it. Take care, G.
Thanks Lee! I really like the stand. Yeah, her and also a Galaga. I spent a lot of time pumping quarters in these two machines when I was young. Good luck, G.
Great combination. Top shelf. I have one question. What is the purpose of the orange piece at 8:08? I believe you called it a stop. Once you set it up for your saw do you still need it. Just curious.
+WoodRodent It is, and it is! Great question! That stop is to make sure you don't move the saw too far to the left and cause the stand to tip over. I hope that make sense. G.
Plus when you have the saw in the upright storage position, the weight of the saw can bear down on it. The saw mounts are pretty secure but just use friction. I believe this stop can add a second tier of support to keep gravity from drawing the saw down the bar.
Question! At 3:28 you mention the direction facing toward the back. My assembly is complete, but the bottom bar is not facing in the correct direction. What's the downfall to not correcting the direction? tyia
Lori, other than aesthetics- I see no reason to turn it around unless you just wanted to. It might collect some saw dust in the holes, but that's no big deal. The top one has stickers with information- so that one would be better the correct way, which you have yours. Take care, G.
ghostses Thank you for your prompt reply! Even my little fingers could barely fit in to get nut started. I'd hate have to do that again. maybe I'll take over the openings. thanks again!
No problem Lori! Yeah, I had to use needle nose pliers to get the nuts where they go. It's a really tight space. Tape would be a good solution if it catches too much debris. G.
Yes, he could have shown how he installed the support beam (the big piece that actually is the most important part of the stand) but since he didn't, I'll tell you how I did it. 1. I clamped the swinging arm so it wouldn't get damaged while I lifted the support beam. 2. I inserted all the bolts and washers through the holes on the receiving beams (the ones that he said needed to face back when the stand was in the storage position). 3. I used my foot to lift the support beam up to the top beam closest to the handle and guided the support beam holes over the bolts. 4. Once I guided the support beam holes closest to the handle, I began to line up the bottom portion closest to the swinging arm and once I successfully guided all the bolts into the holes I unclamped the swinging arm and inserted it into the notch it is designed to be bolted to for temporary support in case gravity decided to pull down the support beam. 5. I used needle nose pliers to place the nuts over the bolts and when they made contact, I used a socket wrench to SLIGHTLY tighten the bolts just enough to ensure that the bolts and nuts would stay attached. 6. I very carefully lowered the stand into the "saw" position and made slight adjustments to the receiving beams (the small ones) so they were flush against the support beam. 7. I finished tightening using an open-ended wrench and a socket wrench. Frankly, I'm disappointed that the entire strength of the most important part of the stand relies on 8 small bolts and nuts. My faith in the stand being able to hold my 12" miter saw is solely based on all the praise that I have read in reviews about the stand. I would think that Bosch would used sturdier bolts like they did for the pivot points. In spite of my slight frustration with Ghostses not showing this portion of the assembly, the rest of the video helped a lot considering the box had no instructions. Luckily I am mechanically inclined so I was able to easily follow along and figure out the most difficult part of the assembly. On a separate but related note, I ran out of grease so I ended up using FrogLube. For those that don't know what that is, it cleans, lubricates, and protects the things called guns. Maybe you've heard of them. ; )
No, I couldn't show the work being preformed due to a lack of space to work and not being able to get a shot with the camera due to the lack of it. It's hard to tell in the video how little of it I really have/had to work with. I thought I did a pretty good job of describing the procedure as it was- not to mention the entire process. Your not the first to state they didn't get a manual- which is very strange to me. They need to correct this problem for sure. So for those that didn't, here's a link to the manual. www.boschtools.com/us/en/boschtools-ocs/miter-saw-stands-t4b-31897-p/ Bottom of the page to download it. A "slight frustration" with me not showing this portion is somewhat confusing to me as I did go over the procedure similarly to how I described the rest. Either way, I believe this is the only video outlining the assembly so I guess it's better than nothing. Perhaps someone else will do a better job in the future. Glad you benefited from the rest though and perhaps your notes will be of use to others. As for being concerned with the 8 small bolts not being strong enough to support a 12 inch saw- don't worry about it. Mine's ridden hundreds of miles in my trailer (folded up and strapped vertically to the wall) with my 12" bosh glide and all is good. The 6mm bolts used are more than likely class 8.8. They would have a min tensile strength of about 116k psi and a proof load of about 84k psi. That's for each bolt. I would be more concerned with the aluminum extrusion giving way well before the bolts ever would. What brand of 12 are you running? If other than bosh, did it mount easily? Never heard of FrogLube. I've always used Hoppe's solvent and oil. I my look into it so thanks for the tip. Get back with me in about 6mo. and let me know how the stand is working out for you. Take care, G.
ghostses I apologize for my choice of words during my slight frustration. I truly appreciate the rest of the video because it was well done. Thank you for detailing the holding strength for the 6mm bolts. You are correct; they are 8.8 so my faith in the stand holding up my Dewalt 12" dual-bevel compound saw is no longer just reliant on previous reviews but on your knowledge of the bolts. THANK YOU. My friend recommended this stand since he has a previous version which has been heavily used for several years with no problems whatsoever.
No apologies required man! I guessed 8.8 so thanks for the clarification. Yeah, you should have no problem with the Dewalt 12" staying put. The 12" Bosch glide is probably the heaviest of the 12" brands and I have no problems. If they designed it for their monster saws, it should be even better for anything lighter. I think your friends recommendation is spot on! Still feedback in 6mo. or so to let me know how its working out for you. It might help others out. Good luck, G.
That's a great question Aleksey and one I can't answer at this time. My saw is buried so I can't get it out, and my tape measures are under the house...lol. I would guess it's about 40" to the top of the table. Perhaps someone else will chime in and give the accurate number. Take care, G.
I see. I thought you were asking about it when stood up for work- not collapsed and laid down. I was able to get some measurements without having to dig it out, but don't think it would work with the cover closed. They should be fairly close. Saw on stand with bevel set at 90: 36.5" Saw on stand with bevel set at 45: 35.5" Saw off stand with bevel set at 90: 25" Saw off stand with bevel set at 45: 24" Stand without saw: 28.5 I was thinking if you loaded them separately it might work, but I don't think that's going to be the case. Either way, hope this helps, G.
Not hard to assemble but the bolts that hold the rail support need to be tightened and I’m not sure how they expect you to get a wrench on the nut. Also as much engineering that had to go into designing this you’d think they would have had to sense to put flat spots on the leveling feet so you could use a wrench.
I stuck a screwdriver in there where nut couldn’t turn. At first I was kinda disappointed but now that I’ve become more familiar and less clumsy operating it up and down I’m glad to got it .
ghostses Many of those stands are good. I used a Hitachi stand for many years. It was very solid with nice features. But if I had a nickel for every time I had to lift my left or right foot to catch a good piece of fall off that was just a little too short to reach either wing I'd be a millionaire!!! For anyone not earning a living making saw dust the Best Fence is overkill. However, if you do get one and use it on a jobsite you'll be in heaven.
Yeah,,,lol. I know what you mean by catching shorter pieces.. But yes, if money were no object I'd probably have one even though it's not my bread and butter. Take care, G.
Great job explaining the process. Helped me a bunch. I had instructions with mine, but like most, they seem to leave out just a couple of things I would have liked to know when putting together. Your piece was precise and to the point. No long explanations. I appreciate that. Great job. Thank you.
Thanks Maure! Glad it was helpful with getting yours together. It's an awesome stand! You're going to love it. Good luck, G.
This is the best demo I have ever seen, thanks a lot.
Thanks! Glad it was helpful. Take care, G.
I purchased this miter stand and just finished putting it together by following your directions and it was a breeze because of your video. Thanks so much for taking the time to put this video together to help everyone out. If I could just add a comment that may help....I have a 12 Dewalt miter saw so I thought I would adjust the tool mount secondary stop so my saw would be more centred on the stand.....big mistake, by doing this it caused the support leg to bind when opening or closing the stand. I couldn't tell this until I had the saw attached. Once I put the tool mount secondary stop back to the original position, the stand now goes up and down very smooth. Thanks again for your great video and stay safe and healthy!
That's cool Earl! Glad it was helpful. Take care, G.
Thanks for the video, could have not completed mine without it. Big thumbs up!
Glad it was helpful Mick. Take care, G.
thank you for taking the time to help,, u made my stand assembly very easy.. just a few beers of time and done
No problem Gerry! Hope you had one for me...lol. Glad it was helpful. Take care, G.
Thank you for showing the compatibility chart. VERY HELPFUL. Really a great review, thank you
Glad it was helpful. Good luck, G.
Well i looked at the manual after following your instruction. Excellent video and i put the manual down after reading two sentences. Now I will use your video on how to set up and tear down. This stand is incredible.
Thanks Chris. Good luck, G.
Thank you for posting this video. It is the best I have seen to be able to put this stand together. I bought this stand and it came without instructions. Do not understand why. But with the help of your video I was able to put it together pretty easily. I wish more assembly videos were as thourough as yours. Again, thank you for posting this. Great Help!!
No problem! Glad the video was helpful. I still really like the stand and and have had no problems at all. Take care, G.
Extremely helpful. I'll appreciate this during assembly. Thanks!
Thanks! Hope it helps. The stand is awesome! Good luck, G.
Awesome video! Easy to follow and straight to the point. Good job.
Thanks Steven. Glad you found it informative. Take care and good luck, G.
Very well done, thanks for this - I'll still glance at the manual, but now I don't feel I'll need to follow it step by step because you covered it all.
Thanks Antonio! Glad you found it useful. Good luck with your stand. I still really like mine. Take care, G.
Very nice video - very thorough and informative. I have been shopping for miter saw stands and this looks like the one I will finally settle on.
Thanks Brian! It's a great stand. Let me know what you think after you get one. Good luck, G.
Thanks so much posting this cool video. I am in my garage and I literally got stuck on the part about the “fastener access window”. Kept scratching my head and reading the instructions before I thought hell someone has to have to have posted a video on this. Have an awesome one thanks! You saved me a headache.
Good deal David! Glad it was helpful with your assembly. It is a great stand. Take care, G.
@@ghostses you too!
Will Do! G.
Hi, great instructions, very clear and concise. I have just bought the stand and already have the similar stand for my Bosch table saw. Great fit for my small workshop, I can easily put up and down so no need to keep up and take up precious space. I tend to take them outside to use if weather permits.
Glad you liked it. Good luck, G.
@@ghostses Cheers.
AWESOME video!!!!!! I love the way you explained everything. Thanks for sharing......
Thanks. Glad it was informative. Take care, G.
Great video, thanks. The wording of the assembly manual was confusing in a couple of places, but the video was crystal clear.
Thanks Howard! Glad it was helpful. Take care, G.
That's a nice stand for sure, I really like that it has the options for a work stop when making repetitive cuts. I had bought a Ridgid MSU back when I got my saw and it works but it doesn't have a built in work stop feature. As usual, great review and how-to G, thanks for sharing!
+Larry527az
That it is Larry! The stops will come in handy from time to time. I'm not familiar with the Ridgid stand. Glad you liked it! G.
Thanks for making this video, the instructions were great. The stand is very impressive. It's replacing a Dewalt DWX726, and I couldn't be happier. The Dewalt was overpriced junk, this Bosch is a quality stand.
Glad it was helpful. I'm not familiar with the Dewalt stand but did watch one video. The main thing that would turn me off on that stand is that it uses a gas strut to aid in lifting. It will go bad over time and warrant a replacement. That's a no go in my book. The other thing I noticed is there is no quick disconnect to use the saw without the stand. You would need to unbolt it. Both my Ryobi stand and this one has that feature. That's my second no go. I didn't think any deeper than those two observations.
I'm still completely satisfied with mine. Good luck with yours. Take care, G.
thank you for this video...it really helped me out!!!
No problem Frankie! Glad it helped. Good luck, G.
Wow! So clear, thank yo SO much. The paper instructions included with the saw are pretty vague; you saved me.
Thanks Gerrit. Glad it helped you out. Good luck, G.
Great job showing the steps one by one - Thanks
Thanks Dave. Hope it was helpful. Good luck, G.
Mine didn't come with instructions, so this was incredibly helpful - thanks! One thing that helped when putting the rail on was laying the thing on it's back so you're putting the nuts on from the top and not the side. I can't tell you how many times I dropped those stupid nuts! Also, I used needle nose pliers to hold the nut in the track while turning the bolt rather than trying to screw the nut onto the bolt in that tiny track. Bosch is always an excellent product, but they really need to work on the design of the rail attachment!
Yeah, that part was a pain for sure. Good tips on how you got it accomplished. Agreed, they need to make it easier to attach the rail. Glad it worked out though. Take care, G.
What a FANTASTIC Video you did a great great job. Thank you Sir!
Thanks! Glad you found it informative. Take care, G.
@@ghostses BTW...i looked everywhere to find out if a Makita LS1019L Saw would fit, got a bunch of different answers...it fits perfectly.
@@stevarino1675 Good deal! Good luck, G.
Very well done video. Not sure who gave it a thumbs down, but it was extremely helpful. Thank you for taking the time.
Have a very blessed day.
Not sure Dean. Glad you found it informative. Take care, G.
Great assembly video, Thanks
Thanks Felix! Glad it was useful. Take care, G.
Thanks, seems very clear instructions. Think I’ll refer to your instructions instead of the manual....to speed up my assembly.
No problem Roger. Glad you liked it and good luck with yours, G.
thank you for saving what remains of my sanity!
No problem! Glad it was helpful, G.
This video is a life saver
Thanks Corey! Glad you found it useful. Take care, G.
Nice setup with saw and stand.
+Gary Hodgin
That it is Gary! I've used it more today and it's turning out to be a great pairing! Take care, G.
I love this video and the T4B is a great product, however I respectfully suggest that probably if you need to watch this video to set up your T4B, it is going to take you longer than 30 minutes to build. Like ghostses, installing the aluminum rack was the most difficult step, I understand why he could not show how he did it, the way I handled it was that I actually used the extension on the rack to line the holes up with the stand. It was slow and tortuous, but it did work for me, my total time to build was about 4 hours. Yes, I acknowledge I am at best and advanced beginner, but we need great tools too. I strongly recommend the T4B but know that it will take a while to assemble.
Thanks Ralph! Great tip on using the extension to get things lined up! Much better than my pain. It's a pain either way, but yours seems to include a third hand to assist. I'm sure your tip will help others. Good luck and take care, G.
Good review and nice stand... I have an older gravity rise stand that came with my 8 year old Bosch (4100-09) 10" worksite table saw and love it. That said, the only Achilles heel to the stand are the wheels. I couldn't tell from your video if Bosch is still using pneumatic tires as they did when mine was new but if so they're OK but always seemed to deflate regularly.
Since I only run the saw around my garage and never over rough terrain the way a contractor might, I choose to replace the wheels. I found a set of comparably sized hard rubber (non-pneumatic) wheels at HF some years ago and haven't encountered any problems.
Best of all I never have flat tires anymore or need to remember and check air pressure... :)
+hiptech
Thanks! I've been using it quite a bit and couldn't be more pleased. I should have noted the tires, but didn't think of it. They're either semi-pneumatic or solid rubber. Either way, they won't ever go flat. It sounds like Bosch has changed them over the years- at least on this stand.
It sounds like your upgrade to the HF wheels was a great thing to do. I can't stand having to keep up with small pneumatic tires. They're either aired up or they're completely flat- most of the time flat...lol.
I might have one of their work-site saws on my radar in the future. Good to hear yours has been serving you well! Either that, or pull the legs off my contractor saw and mount it to a gravity rise stand if possible. I haven't looked into either, but that's my plan...lol. Take care, G.
+ghostses
Just an update... after purchasing the GCM12SD last month I've been diligently watching Amazon (and other sites) for a price drop on this stand, no luck as the price seems stuck at $299. Well my weekly ritual of visiting HD every Sunday finally paid off.
Yesterday after walking through the entrance my eyes glanced down near the return desk and low and behold there on the floor under a sign marked "Clearance" (siting among several "decent deals") was a familiar large blue unopened box (with factory strapping). That's right just like the miter saw HD has decided (for whatever insane reason) to blow these Bosch tools out. Needless to say my heart raced and I immediately recognized a manager who I previously shared a few conversations with.
I told him I was very interested in this stand and asked if he might consider a "good customer" discount? It may have helped that I am remodeling my bath rooms and spend a great amount of time (and money) there. He seemed to think about this longer than I expected but in the end gave me my discount.
Bottom line, instead of the going $299 the item was marked down with a clearance tag to $209 and with a $20 discount I picked it up for $190 plus tax or little over $200! Not exactly the stuff of dreams but definitely a price I could live with :)
He also mentioned that they had 3 of these in inventory but the odd thing was prior to yesterday I hadn't seen any large Bosch tools anywhere in the store (believe me I looked). My advice to anyone interested is to check with your local HD and ask a manager if they have any in inventory and would be willing to discount. I suspect floor space may be an issue in most stores especially during the holidays and they appear motivated to move these...
+hiptech
Thanks for the update and info! Brand new at about 33% off- you did good! Take care, G.
+hiptech I've been looking too, but my store isn't discounting them.
Awesome. Subscribed!
Thanks again! Take care, G.
Menards had the saw for 598 and if you buy the stand with it stand is 150 (149 discount) good until july 15 I believe. Thanks for the video just put saw and stand together its wonderful
That's a pretty good deal Vickie! I'm glad the video was useful. I agree, the combination of saw and stand are great. I couldn't be more pleased with mine. Take care, G.
Very Nice early Christmas gift from Dad to go with your new Bosch Miter Saw. I wonder who will be the first to borrow that beauty or you to do some on location work now that there is no excuse for mobility? (Telephone rings, Hello, oh hi Dad. Come over to your house and visit you say? And bring what with me?).
+MRrwmac
That it was Mac! That's true, no excuse for mobility now. Funny you mention the the way it REALLY works in my life! We take our daughter to my folks every Sunday to visit. My Dad must spend the other six days making lists on what he needs done/help with...lol. I don't mind though. Come to think of it, he tells me stories of his Dad doing the same thing to him....lol. I guess I need to give my daughter the skills to do so I can do the same to her as she gets older...lol. G.
thank you sir, appreciate it much.
No problem Jamon! Glad you liked it. Take care, G.
Great video. What saw did you use? Also, if you push the mitre gauge to 45 degrees or more what is the dimension in storage front to back if you know. Many thanks!!!!
Thanks Jeff! This is the saw I used.
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I can't say what the dimensions are when stored in a miter setting. Good luck, G.
Yes, it did help - a lot. Why? Because some numpty forgot to include the handbook and build instructions in my delivery.
Your video saved me hours of fiddling about and, doubtless, much swearing. So, thanks very much indeed. You should get a job at Bosch....
That's no good they didn't include the manual Ian. I'm glad the video was helpful with putting yours together. I'd probably take a job should they ask...lol. Good luck, G.
I think assembly instructions is available on line at their site.
Maybe his job at Bosch could be putting a instructions video in each box. And be paid very well for it!!!
Good review and subscribed.
I wish it would work with my Hitachi C12RSH without the use of plywood for a mounting plate.
I may have to go with the DeWalt DWX726, but bummer about that is the saw wouldn't be removable due to its design.
+Mario Monti
Thanks Mario. I read one question on Amazon that asked if it your saw would fit, and they said yes. I, of course can't confirm that, or if they used a plate of some sort. I took a peak at the Dewalt stand and agree with you about not being able to remove the saw. The other thing I noticed is there appear to be no stops for repetitive cuts. That alone would be a deal breaker for me, but over all it looks like a fine product. You might check out the Ridgid AC9945 as another option. It does have removable mounts as well as stops. I can only vouch for the Bosch stand though, and really like it. Good luck, G.
How strong are the support arms when they are fully extend? Do they sag a lot when you have heavier material?
They're pretty stout Chris, but will sag some with heavier material- not unlike most stands. I compensate for the sag by raising the support arm till the stock is resting flat on the table. I'm still extremely pleased with the stand. Hope this helps, G.
ghostses ok thanks for the response. I had a RIDGID that sagged over 2" with a 2x4. I wasn't pleased. I'll look into this one based on your review. Have a good one!
No problem Chris! That's not good. I don't recall mine sagging anywhere near that, especially with a 2x2. I don't think they have them on display for checking out, but I could be wrong. If you do pick one up, drop your thoughts on it. Take care, G.
Trying to decide between this and the Ridgid equivalent 🤔 I got the Milwaukee Duel Bevel 12” and I believe it will fit on both.
Caleb, I can't speak for other stands- but will say I'm still satisfied with mine. Good luck, G.
@@ghostses Ended up getting the Bosch stand and it fit with no problems! Also I can see now why the stand has such good reviews. Totally worth it!
@@calebcorkum740 Good deal! Take care, G.
you have a Mrs Pac-Man machine way cool, I have the stand on my 10" glide very heavy but also very stable
Thanks Lee! I really like the stand. Yeah, her and also a Galaga. I spent a lot of time pumping quarters in these two machines when I was young. Good luck, G.
Great combination. Top shelf. I have one question. What is the purpose of the orange piece at 8:08? I believe you called it a stop. Once you set it up for your saw do you still need it. Just curious.
+WoodRodent
It is, and it is! Great question! That stop is to make sure you don't move the saw too far to the left and cause the stand to tip over. I hope that make sense. G.
Plus when you have the saw in the upright storage position, the weight of the saw can bear down on it. The saw mounts are pretty secure but just use friction. I believe this stop can add a second tier of support to keep gravity from drawing the saw down the bar.
Question! At 3:28 you mention the direction facing toward the back. My assembly is complete, but the bottom bar is not facing in the correct direction. What's the downfall to not correcting the direction? tyia
Lori, other than aesthetics- I see no reason to turn it around unless you just wanted to. It might collect some saw dust in the holes, but that's no big deal. The top one has stickers with information- so that one would be better the correct way, which you have yours. Take care, G.
ghostses Thank you for your prompt reply! Even my little fingers could barely fit in to get nut started. I'd hate have to do that again. maybe I'll take over the openings. thanks again!
No problem Lori! Yeah, I had to use needle nose pliers to get the nuts where they go. It's a really tight space. Tape would be a good solution if it catches too much debris. G.
Yes, he could have shown how he installed the support beam (the big piece that actually is the most important part of the stand) but since he didn't, I'll tell you how I did it.
1. I clamped the swinging arm so it wouldn't get damaged while I lifted the support beam.
2. I inserted all the bolts and washers through the holes on the receiving beams (the ones that he said needed to face back when the stand was in the storage position).
3. I used my foot to lift the support beam up to the top beam closest to the handle and guided the support beam holes over the bolts.
4. Once I guided the support beam holes closest to the handle, I began to line up the bottom portion closest to the swinging arm and once I successfully guided all the bolts into the holes I unclamped the swinging arm and inserted it into the notch it is designed to be bolted to for temporary support in case gravity decided to pull down the support beam.
5. I used needle nose pliers to place the nuts over the bolts and when they made contact, I used a socket wrench to SLIGHTLY tighten the bolts just enough to ensure that the bolts and nuts would stay attached.
6. I very carefully lowered the stand into the "saw" position and made slight adjustments to the receiving beams (the small ones) so they were flush against the support beam.
7. I finished tightening using an open-ended wrench and a socket wrench.
Frankly, I'm disappointed that the entire strength of the most important part of the stand relies on 8 small bolts and nuts. My faith in the stand being able to hold my 12" miter saw is solely based on all the praise that I have read in reviews about the stand. I would think that Bosch would used sturdier bolts like they did for the pivot points. In spite of my slight frustration with Ghostses not showing this portion of the assembly, the rest of the video helped a lot considering the box had no instructions. Luckily I am mechanically inclined so I was able to easily follow along and figure out the most difficult part of the assembly. On a separate but related note, I ran out of grease so I ended up using FrogLube. For those that don't know what that is, it cleans, lubricates, and protects the things called guns. Maybe you've heard of them. ; )
No, I couldn't show the work being preformed due to a lack of space to work and not being able to get a shot with the camera due to the lack of it. It's hard to tell in the video how little of it I really have/had to work with. I thought I did a pretty good job of describing the procedure as it was- not to mention the entire process. Your not the first to state they didn't get a manual- which is very strange to me. They need to correct this problem for sure. So for those that didn't, here's a link to the manual.
www.boschtools.com/us/en/boschtools-ocs/miter-saw-stands-t4b-31897-p/
Bottom of the page to download it.
A "slight frustration" with me not showing this portion is somewhat confusing to me as I did go over the procedure similarly to how I described the rest. Either way, I believe this is the only video outlining the assembly so I guess it's better than nothing. Perhaps someone else will do a better job in the future. Glad you benefited from the rest though and perhaps your notes will be of use to others.
As for being concerned with the 8 small bolts not being strong enough to support a 12 inch saw- don't worry about it. Mine's ridden hundreds of miles in my trailer (folded up and strapped vertically to the wall) with my 12" bosh glide and all is good. The 6mm bolts used are more than likely class 8.8. They would have a min tensile strength of about 116k psi and a proof load of about 84k psi. That's for each bolt. I would be more concerned with the aluminum extrusion giving way well before the bolts ever would. What brand of 12 are you running? If other than bosh, did it mount easily?
Never heard of FrogLube. I've always used Hoppe's solvent and oil. I my look into it so thanks for the tip.
Get back with me in about 6mo. and let me know how the stand is working out for you. Take care, G.
ghostses I apologize for my choice of words during my slight frustration. I truly appreciate the rest of the video because it was well done. Thank you for detailing the holding strength for the 6mm bolts. You are correct; they are 8.8 so my faith in the stand holding up my Dewalt 12" dual-bevel compound saw is no longer just reliant on previous reviews but on your knowledge of the bolts. THANK YOU. My friend recommended this stand since he has a previous version which has been heavily used for several years with no problems whatsoever.
No apologies required man! I guessed 8.8 so thanks for the clarification. Yeah, you should have no problem with the Dewalt 12" staying put. The 12" Bosch glide is probably the heaviest of the 12" brands and I have no problems. If they designed it for their monster saws, it should be even better for anything lighter. I think your friends recommendation is spot on! Still feedback in 6mo. or so to let me know how its working out for you. It might help others out. Good luck, G.
ghostses Will do! Thanks again.
Good deal! G.
Thank you!
No problem Chris! Take care, G.
Just pickup one on sale for $167.00 at Canadian Tire . love it.
That was a great price Neil! I agree- love it! Take care, G.
Yup, yup! I opened my box and immediatly started calculating how many beers it was gonna take me to asssemble this f'n thing.
LOL! That's cool. But, try to get in about six BEFORE you start. It might make it more entertaining....lol. Good luck, G.
What is the height of gravity stand with this saw attached from the floor to the highest point of the saw ?
That's a great question Aleksey and one I can't answer at this time. My saw is buried so I can't get it out, and my tape measures are under the house...lol. I would guess it's about 40" to the top of the table. Perhaps someone else will chime in and give the accurate number. Take care, G.
ghostses thanks, I was just wondering if it will fit on the bed of my truck with tonneau cover being closed.
I see. I thought you were asking about it when stood up for work- not collapsed and laid down. I was able to get some measurements without having to dig it out, but don't think it would work with the cover closed. They should be fairly close.
Saw on stand with bevel set at 90: 36.5"
Saw on stand with bevel set at 45: 35.5"
Saw off stand with bevel set at 90: 25"
Saw off stand with bevel set at 45: 24"
Stand without saw: 28.5
I was thinking if you loaded them separately it might work, but I don't think that's going to be the case. Either way, hope this helps, G.
ghostses thank you , your info was very helpful !
No problem! Good luck, G.
Is that a Ms Pac-Man?
I remember their wedding...
Does that make me old?
Yes it is Joseph! I have an original Galaga as well. No, not old- just seasoned...lol. Take care, G.
Not hard to assemble but the bolts that hold the rail support need to be tightened and I’m not sure how they expect you to get a wrench on the nut. Also as much engineering that had to go into designing this you’d think they would have had to sense to put flat spots on the leveling feet so you could use a wrench.
I did it, but don't recall how. Take care, G.
I stuck a screwdriver in there where nut couldn’t turn. At first I was kinda disappointed but now that I’ve become more familiar and less clumsy operating it up and down I’m glad to got it .
@@K31swiss Good deal!
Once you go Best Fence you never go back.
I've seen them and they do look nice. Good luck, G.
ghostses
Many of those stands are good. I used a Hitachi stand for many years. It was very solid with nice features. But if I had a nickel for every time I had to lift my left or right foot to catch a good piece of fall off that was just a little too short to reach either wing I'd be a millionaire!!!
For anyone not earning a living making saw dust the Best Fence is overkill. However, if you do get one and use it on a jobsite you'll be in heaven.
Yeah,,,lol. I know what you mean by catching shorter pieces.. But yes, if money were no object I'd probably have one even though it's not my bread and butter. Take care, G.