Thank you G for a great review. When I purchased my Bosch over a year ago, I found the same as you. It was dead on right out of the box. I also found as you did, the upper fence sits back slightly. I didn't measure measure that but has not been a problem. The Bosch is truly a jewel of a saw and should satisfy any wood worker looking for a top quality cut. I am astounded by the Freud blade. There is no excuse for a 12 inch blade not being 12 inches.
+James Lester Thanks James! I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for the feedback on your fences being set back as well. It lets me know it was designed that way for some reason. It's not a problem, like you mentioned, just something I observed. Man, I'm still taken back how well it was setup out of the box. Yours being the same way really blows my mind. They're on their game in that regard! A jewel it is for sure. I haven't used mine in about a week so I'm starting to go through withdrawals...lol. Yeah, I still have a bad taste in my mouth over the 12" 80 tooth blade. The way the Bosch saw is designed- they eek out every bit they can to increase the cut capability so it has to have a full 12" blade, or you have to mess with the factory settings. It might not be a problem for other saws, and the user may never even know, but it is for this one. Their 100 and 90 tooth blades are a full 12"- and I think a 60 of some sort. I did put on a 100 tooth and it's working fine. Take care, G.
While I don't use it professionally, i have used it plenty and it still works like day one. I do recommend it. Good luck, G.
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Here it is 5 years later, and this is STILL the king of saws!!! Just got one today!!! Sold my DeWalt to get it because I can put it up against the wall!!!
This review was excellent. Really actually gave accuracy amd workmanship review of the saw. Not just repeating what's written on the back of the box. Thank you!
I just took my new saw out of the box and made a few cuts and was having the same problem you was having with the freud blade, I called Bosch and was on the phone with someone in the Philippines, which they had to idea what I was talking about, then I ran across your video, thank you so much for clearing things up..
Glad it was helpful JC. Scour the comments for the exact blade I ended up using- but I believe if was Freud's 100 tooth I picked up from HD. It was a true 12" and works great. I believe there are another one or two that are 12" as well. Take care, G.
Appreciated your thorough review of the saw. the review is now 3 years old. Do you still feel as positive about the saw as your review indicated? Not withstanding your great deal, would you purchase this saw again? i am considering buying one and would like your thoughts.
Thanks Rob! Very much so, I'm still completely satisfied and would definitely purchase one again. If you settle on this one, let us know what you think after some use. Take care, G.
You can store the hold down clamp in the same hole just turn it 180º out of the way or put it in the hole on the other side. Works for me. Might have to remove it for 45º or more cuts? Good review. Thx. Ive had mine a several years now and love it. I finally replaced the blade and it cuts like butter now. Your blade is probably square. Use a bigger square and stay off the plastic. If you really want to split hairs on the 45º bevel cut two pieces and fit them together and check for 90º. If your making something like picture frames or something it can really be fine tuned that way. Great saw in my opinion and worth every penny!
Yeah, I do that now so I don't lose track of it. I would like a storage point so it's always out of the way until it's needed. Good tips! I'm with you there- it is a great saw and worth the cost. Take care, G.
Simply stated, this is an outstanding review! I have had one for 5 years and it is as accurate today as it was when it was new. My fence setback was just over 5 tho, but ALL the settings were dead accurate out of the box. I did not have the flash issue on the bevel lock. I COMPLETELY agree with your comments about blade change procedure, I also remove the guard completely. The saw weighs 68 lb, so the gravity stand is a must. The only thing I would like to see is a micro adjust on a fence stop, but this is easily machined. I have used Makita, Dewalt, and Festool and except for dust collection, the Bosch is the ticket! I also added a blade laser but it really isn't necessary.
+Don Donaldson Thanks Don! Man, I was really taken back with how accurate the saw was setup- and still am. My flash issue may have been a one-off- who knows. It's not a big deal to remove the guard, but they should address it- or just amend the manual to just remove it. It does make it way easier to change the blade having it out of the way. I agree, if the saw will be moved around, the gravity stand is a must. I agree 100%- this saw is the ticket. Take care, G.
A really clear, well-presented and helpful review - thanks very much. I've been debating whether or not to buy one of these and I think that I will now. I need an accurate, large capacity mitre saw but it'll just live in the workshop so I'm not too bothered about the size and weight. Thanks again.
Great score G, now I'm going to have to check my local Home Depot's and see what they have for prices. This saw looks awesome, really like that the controls are all our front. Thanks for showing us this.
+Larry527az Thanks Larry! The first store I went to had them at full price. Why the other store was at $520 I don't know, and I wasn't going to question it...lol. Being able to use the HF 20off made it even better. It is an awesome saw for sure. If you want to get one, go to the top and try the HF coupon. It might work, it might not. Take care, G.
curious to an update? this is a great review and thinking about getting one though in my mind, more parts = more opportunity for failure. How has that hinged system held up? I have a small space and don't want the protruding rails going out the back. Looking at either this saw or makita has one that the blade housing travels along the rails instead of rails going out the back. Thanks again for the review
@@ghostses it does I just ordered one and I still am kind of skeptical about moving Parts breaking but we're going to see how long these hinges last :-)
Congratulation on your new Miter Saw. It is my dream to have one in my stall shop because of space-saving. I have a question for you mate. Are you 100% happy with it? for my next update(when I will have the money) I am in between this and another cordless Miter Saw from another brand. Thanks
Thanks Teo! Yes, I'm still completely satisfied with it. I don't how much smaller their 10" version would be. But if you don't need a 12", you might look into one to save more space. Good luck whichever way you decide to go. Take care, G.
Well, here we are 5 years after this video posted. Yesterday, I was in a store looking at this exact saw which is still being manufactured, and I think I am as impressed today, as you were 5 years ago. I just found this video and your channel today while looking for reviews on this saw, so, I am a new viewer, and new subscriber. You mentioned the adjustable upper fence being .008 out of parallel with the fixed fence, which is thinner than a piece of US paper currency. I can't think of any woodworking needs where tolerances need to be that precise, so I won't even consider that to be a con with this saw. I think I had already made up my mind about buying one of these saws after the holidays, and watching your video just set my plans in stone. Looks like Santa will be visiting my workshop some time shortly after the StupidBowl. My only question for you would be How do you feel about the saw after owning it for 5 years??
Great review... Just a thought, with your Diablo blade, if you ad an auxiliary fence, you will solve the problem of not cutting all the way through your working piece.
As others have said, outstanding review. Thank you! My big question that I can only find yes and not is the accuracy for full length cuts. Say you have a 16" piece of plywood set against a stop, cut as far as you can, flip it over, does the cut line up? My current kobalt is often like an 1/8 or more off.
Thanks Ron! I've never made such a cut so I can't say for sure. All I can say is it's an extremely accurate saw for anything I throw at it. Good luck, G.
Thanks Bryan! Thanks for confirming on the 10". I'm sure it well help others. I'm still really liking mine. It's a great saw IMO. Good luck with yours, G.
Well you pushed me over the edge since I've been looking at this saw for a well over a year now... Checked with several HD's and I suspect they may be eliminating these from the stores as several locations no longer display or stock them anymore. My local store had it on display last week and now it's gone but they did have two on an end cap (one in a box and the other a display model). So I snagged the boxed unit and just as you said it was reduced to $520. I next tried the HF strategy but was turned down. I did this a 2 other stores and both were out of stock. So I returned to my local store (luckily still available) and purchased the last new one at a 10% discount thanks to a kind manager. I tried to combine a $20 off coupon that was just emailed to me but they wouldn't go for it (only 1 discount/customer) so I choose the bigger 10% discount and felt satisfied getting it for $495 + tax. Problem is I have a perfectly fine Hitachi C12FDH that has served me well and works fine... now what? ;)
+hiptech LOL...that's cool! You might be right on HD phasing them out. They are great saws, but can imagine they are slow to move due to their cost. Or perhaps Bosh is coming out with something newer- who knows. The first store I went to did not have them marked down. I guess for me, it worked out even better since the second did and they let me use the HF coupon. It was worth a shot trying to use the HF coupon, but I agree- you still did good. Have you used it yet? If so, what do you think? If not, let me know when you do. HMM...I see TWO miter stations in your future...lol. G.
great job explaining all the details on this saw..i bought one last year ,,same model ..really the best I have seen and ultra smooth..there was a couple things I didn't know like the slide outs on rotary table slide outs ..ive only used it a few times so only played with the basics // unforunatley I paid $650.00 at the local hardware store //oh well ..it will last me the rest of my life
Thanks David! I'm still really pleased with mine. Glad the video pointed out things you didn't realize. Even at full price- I still think it's worth it. Mine will last my life as well. Take care, G.
@@ghostses thanks for the reply ..I found all the other gadgets on mine aftr the video and checked to see with my machinist indercator the squareness all around //found it to be spot on ...thanks again !!im buying the folding cart for easier transport if I do side work at other jobs!!! have a nice day
What did you resolve on the not-quite-12" blade issue? I would also be PO'd if a 3rd-party 12" blade would not cut through, but I need quality of cut -- so does that mean I MUST get blades from Bosch to cut through? (!) Thanks for the excellent review. I had one of these a few years ago, and I had problems with it & returned the saw -- details as to why I returned it are lost in the mists of time. I presently use a Makita LS1016L saw that I am happy with. Please share any follow-up. Why do I care? Well, I'd like to be able to cut through a 4x4 (Read: 12" Blade) in one pass -- thinking about my upcoming Homestead.
+tkarlmann Yeah, I'm still a bit ticked over that one. Any true 12" blade will work just fine on the saw- regardless of manufacture. I did go with another Freud blade that is a full 12"- D12100X 100 tooth. Their 96 tooth is also 12", and I believe the 60 but can't can't confirm 100%. Perhaps Bosch corrected something since you had yours, who knows. I, of course, can't speak for all the them, but this once is great. Your Makita looks like a really fine machine. I understand why you're needing something larger. I got a great deal on some 5 5/8 crown molding that ended up costing me a larger saw and stand in the end....lol. Hope this helps! Good luck, G.
+tkarlmann Sorry for the confusion. Freud is the manufacture name- Diablo is a series of their blades. This is the exact blade I'm using now. Take care, G. www.homedepot.com/p/Diablo-12-in-x-100-Tooth-Ultimate-Flawless-Finish-Saw-Blade-D12100X/202786845
Nice review! That glide system looks awesome, but do you think it will last? I've had the 10" version for 8 - 10 years and it's also a great saw. It doesn't have the glide system, just two tubes like most bevel saws, but it too is smooth as silk and shows no sign of wear. Of course it does stick out the back and that can be a nuisance occasionally. There is one thing about the 10" saw that I like better. The clamping mechanism locks with a lever so it's easy to snap and unsnap with a simple motion, and it's height is determined by friction when you lock it down. When you don't need it, it swings to the back out of the way. I've had no major issues with the saw, but you need to keep an eye on the two lower stops as I've had to re-square them a few times.
+Kate Cassandra Thanks Kate! That's a great question! The glide system is awesome and I do think it will last- no problem. The pivot points are all loaded with sealed bearings- probably the same type that would be used in a motor spinning thousands of RPM's. With what little they move when using the saw, I see no reason they won't outlast the tool overall. It sounds like your 10 has been serving you well- that's great! Yeah, the shafts sticking out the back can be a pain- especially if you're cramped for space. It has to be held out from the wall enough to allow for the full travel. The clamp on yours sounds superior to what this came with for sure. For what this saw costs, It would be nice to have a toggle clamp included like the one you have. If yours ever dies, which is unlikely, you might look into the glide. I think they also have a 10" version available if you don't require a 12". Put your hands on one, and you will want it....lol. Thanks and good luck, G.
your video is amazing I just got a new saw for Christmas my wife wants a couple projects done and I can't wait to start it and use it thanks for making this video
Thanks Jose! Glad you liked it. Now that was a great gift!!! A few projects is a small price to pay to get one of these...lol. Your going to love it! I think it's the best saw out there. If you ever plan on putting in on a stand, I've done a review of the Bosh stand as well. It's a great addition for the saw. Check it out if you like. Good luck, G. ua-cam.com/video/i2UzZPfCzJ8/v-deo.html
Congratulation G, Your experience with the Bosch Glide is same as mine. It is a joy to use and extremely accurate. I have had mine for about four years and use it every day making furniture. It is the second most use tool in my shop next to my Sawstop table saw. Both are designed for and by folks who are woodworkers. I to have been disappointed with saw blades that are to small. I have been using the Bosch DCB1280 Daredevil 12-Inch 80-Tooth blade and very happy with it. Enjoy the new toy. It is a beast. You are the master of Coupons.LOL
+MrMnchstr I agree I love to watch all his Video's. He takes great pride in doing a quality job on what ever he undertakes. Who ever buys his house can take comfort in knowing things are done right.
+Dev Ogle Thanks Dev! Agreed, it is an extreme joy to use. Knowing you use yours daily, and that it's holding up well, ensures this might be the last miter saw I ever buy! Thanks for the info on the blade. They are pricy, but they look to be a fine blade. I couldn't find one locally so I may have to go another route. I went to Woodcraft toady to look at the higher ended 12" Freud blades and they were all 11 3/4". I can see fudging to 11 15/16" or even 7/8"- but a full 1/4"- come on! Have you ever adjusted the down-feed stop on your saw to work with smaller blades? It doesn't look like there is much adjustment left so I don't know if there is enough to work with a 11 3/4" blade. Plus it's secured with red Loctite on mine so I don't know how friendly it would be to adjust. Any input would be greatly appreciated. LOL, yeah- you can blame the mastery of the coupons on my wife! She's taught me well. Be nice, ask, and more often than not you will win....lol. Take care, G.
Great review. Congrats on the saw . Looks like you got a good one with some well thought out features. Nice, but extremely rare, to find a tool set up correctly out of the box. I've got an older (10-12 years or so) dewalt 705 12" compound miter. Good for trim work and narrow boards, but if I did more cross-cutting I'd seriously consider the slider.
+Gary Hodgin Thanks Gary! I agree, I was fully expecting to have to adjust SOMETHING- as with most factory setups. Whoever had their hands on this particular saw was on their game for sure! It sounds like your 705 has been serving you well- good deal! If you ever need to expand your capacity, be sure to check this saw out. Take care, G.
Hi Ghostses, thanks for that excellent video, I also have a Bosch Glide like yours but what I want to know is the brand of your Angle finder and where you purchase it. Looks pretty cool. Thanks again.
Glad you liked it! I got the finder years ago at WoodCraft but don't believe they sell them anymore. Here's a link to one that looks to be the same. Hope it helps, G. www.amazon.com/Universal-Protractor-Magnifier-Degree-Adjustment/dp/B00HG0NVQM
I have one of these saws 3 or 4 years years now , Its mounted on a bench in my workshop , I have a forest blade in it , the accuracy has always been hit and miss , its very easy to put a little side pressure while cutting and throw the cut off , wide cut are worse , If its locked so not to glide I can pull it a head almost a inch , Bosch offered to have me send it for repair but to have to send it halfway across the country would have cost me a couple of hundred dollars. I still use it for rough stuff , I have a 12 inch stationary Dewalt I use for accurate cuts. If it cut accurately all the time I would love the saw, I take great care of my tools and I'm fanatic about proper setup , Love the glide concept but I wouldn't buy another one.
+Darrell LeBlanc That's no good Darrell! Mines been riding about 300mi/week in my trailer strapped to the wall on a gravity rise stand and it's still dead on. 1" of play when the head is locked makes me thing there's something really wrong with yours. Mine has a little play when locked, but nowhere near what you have. I understand not wanting to send it off for what it would cost. Good to know your DeWalt is working great for you. The Bosch should be right there with it. It's unfortunate you're having problems with yours, and am surprised- based on the experience I've had with mine. I don't know if maybe they've changed something over the years to correct problems, but mine is as close to perfect as perfect can get. Good luck, G.
The bolt that you back off 6 turns can be backed off more, and if you do, the rod will stay put. I can back mine out to where about 3/8” of thread is exposed and the rod fits right in there and stays put.
It doesn't have to do with deserving Dennis. They help families of veterans as well. He told me on big ticket items, he would go with me so we could save some money. Nothing nefarious, just him offering and helping us out. G.
Nice review. You certainly got a bargain with your purchase. Here in Oz this saw is going for $1100.00 + AUD. We certainly seem to pay premium prices. Well done, enjoy your saw.
good review. for your blade issue an auxiliary fence would fix the problem. have the same model saw and stand and agree if you move the saw a lot you need the stand
Thanks Ken! An aux fence would take care of the problem for sure. I ended up going to HD and measuring all the 12" Diablo blades and found 2 or 3 different tooth counts that were a full 12. I went with the 100 tooth and it works great. Why the 80 is small is still beyond me. Yeah, this thing is a monster! The saw with stand combo is awesome for sure. Take care, G.
To eliminate tear out, zero clearance inserts are needed on any saw. By adjusting the kerf inserts in toward the blade that will reduce the clearance normally needed to accommodate bevel cuts. That feature is not standard on most miter saws. I am looking to upgrade my miter saw and I have my eyes on this Bosch model.
True Randal, they are adjustable which is unique. It really is a great saw. I've made zero clearance inserts out of wood to use on this saw. One for 90 cuts, and others for miter cuts. I think I've made about eight and have only used a couple for specific compound beveled cuts. Either way, it is a nice saw and very versatile. Good luck, G.
What a super addition to your shop and a great review as always. Just in time for trimming out the remodel. That was a surprise about the Diablo blade. Seems deceptive to me. A 7 1/2" blade is 7 1/2" not 8" and a 11 3/4" is 11 3/4" not 12". The electronic industry got in trouble for this behavior not so long ago. I expected better from Freud.
+WoodRodent That it is and thanks! Yeah, I'm pretty ticked off with them. I've been using their blades for years on my TS and circular saw. I went by Woodcraft today and checked their higher ended Freud blades they had and they were all 11 3/4". I can see maybe a 1/16" shy- but a full 1/4? I too expected better! G.
What angle finder are you using? What might cause ringing in the blade like that? Great review and I really appreciate your detail about this miter saw. Your video detail has convinced me to purchase this model. The price you paid for the saw is crazy awesome, great work.
Thanks David! It's a great saw hands down. The angle finder I'm using is called a universal bevel protractor. I got mine at Woodcraft but I don't believe they still carry them. Here's a link to one that looks to be just like mine. www.amazon.com/Universal-Protractor-Magnifier-Degree-Adjustment/dp/B00HG0NVQM The Freud blade has laser cut slots that act as silencers- as well as allow for expansion without warping due to heat. The blade that came with the saw had some slots, but not like the Freud. It not being coated could also add to the ringing- but not sure. I personally like the Freud blades due to their cost being fair- and they have a really good cut quality. If you pick up a saw, let me know what you think. Good luck, G.
David, I need to add a note to the video about that problem. That blade went back and I was tipped off by another viewer that their Freud 100 tooth blade was in fact 12". So that's the one I ended up with. Here's a link. I measured a couple more Freud blades while I was there and found others were 12" as well. I can't remember which ones, but believe I noted them in the comments somewhere. G. www.homedepot.com/p/Diablo-12-in-x-100-Tooth-Ultimate-Flawless-Finish-Saw-Blade-D12100X/202786845
ghostses I went ahead and bought this saw. This saw is a beast. When it sits on my basic Delta miter stand saw I noticed due to weight there is movement forward and back of the whole saw itself as the arm comes forward. I know you have the T4B gravity stand, does it have that kind of forward and back movement on the stand? Thanks again for your great video.
That's cool David! Yeah, it's a beast for sure. I doubt Delta has any saws that weigh in like the Bosch, so they probably built them lighter. I would say no on any T4B movement. If you get the leveling feet adjusted so it has 4 points of contact- it stays put. It really is a great stand. Not trying to spend more of your money, but that's my opinion and I have nothing to gain from saying so. If you do pick one up, post your thoughts on that video. Take care, G.
i've seen a lot of reviews on amazon along with pictures about the quality of the cuts and it doesn't cut straight, specially when using the gliding system, have you noticed this as well?
will that was a very good buy. i think my was a little better / at my home depot they had this same miter saw on clearance for $289.00 and on top of that they also had the miter stand for $210. that was a deal of a life time for me. very happy with my buy , you never know what deal ever come up and yes not all home depot are the same.
great saw i would recommend not leaving it in the sun seems to weaken the plastic after 3 years was decolored and the handle broke off plastic weakened dramatically
Great review. I'm also a fan of Diablo blades, and wasn't too pleased to hear about their 12" blades ( which I don't require ), but still it's the principle of the thing. BTW what does the "G" stand for? Gary, Greg, George?
+hankus253 Thanks Hank! Yeah, I've been using their 10's for years, and even ones on my circular saw. It is the principle for sure. I bought a 100 tooth Diablo and it is a full 12". The 96 is also 12". I think the 60 is as well, but can't remember for sure. LOL, the "G" is just short for ghostses. Take care, G.
The best model Bosch ever made was the CM8S 8.5" sliding miter saw with the vertical handle over the saw blade. Why didn't Bosch continue this handle design on their Axial glide saws?
Not sure. Personally I like this style over the vertical. I have an old Craftsman 10" that had a handle that could be rotated for preference. It would be nice if they would incorporate something like that. Take care, G.
I just bought a Makita LS1016L from Home-Depot . I would be too embarrassed to use a competitor coupons. The saw +lazer is a little inaccurate so hoping HD can repair/adjust it. Got it online cause the stores do not carry that model. Paid something like $498 for it.
That's cool! You might not get them to dial it in/adjust it. They're just a seller and probably don't have staff skilled to dial them in. Most saws, the one in the video being a rare exception to the rule, would need to be adjusted out of the box. You might look into the manual, or the web, to figure out how to dial yours in. I'm sure you can make it perform well. Good luck, G.
Before I even start watching this, I had a feeling somehow 20% harbor freight coupon would be involved . this proves you are the king of 20% coupon. :-)
LOL! You know me all too well! If you don't ask, the answer is always no. If you do ask, you might get a yes, or a no. The first store was a no, the second was a yes....lol. Good to hear from you, it's been a while. Take care, G.
LOL! That's cool! I'm all about the 20% as you know- and always try to use a free item coupon to boot. I mainly snatch up the screwdriver sets (to give away and I stash them everywhere I can), and the tarps. I think I have about 20 tarps and have used all at one time. This saw is the Rolls for sure, but does cost a lot of cash. Others work just fine, depending on the need. For the ultimate in precision, this thing is the bomb! G.
yes indeed. if i had a molding install business or a major production shop, i would get one of those. as is, i might use a miter saw once a year if that. but it never hurts to have at least that one special tool like the Rolls. AKA dool tool in the shop even just to look at and drool.
+Ben's Collection and Sundry That it is Ben! Sad it is for sure, to have experienced the quality of the saw first hand and not own one. If you didn't know any difference, you would be none the wiser. But since you have, you'll have to put it on your list of to gets! Take care, G.
Very true Randall. I did get another Diablo that was an actual 12" blade. I think it was the 100 tooth count. I reference it in the comments somewhere. Take care, G.
I have the same saw maybe 5 months or so, other than getting the deal on the saw I got the saw and stand for $650!! A bargain as far as I'm concerned. I used this professionally every day and as with you the only complaint I have is the weight. Sorry that's ALL I can come up with on negative comment about it!! Not bad at all. Still cuts as sq as the day I got it as well. Thanks for the very through review!
That was a steal for the saw and stand for $650! I think it's worth every penny, and then some even at full price. Not for everyone, but for those wanting to do, or that do, precision work- it's probably the best option available in my opinion. I don't use mine daily, so I envision it lasting the long haul for me. Glad you liked the review. Take care, G.
I work at Home Depot Part time, retired military, this saw is now being clearanced out, I just bought one for $325. You need to hurry though, HD rolls their clearance every three days after two or three reductions it is taken out of the store. If you can get one you will not regret it. Displays are even cheaper, talk to manager on those.
@@arc.handyman1905 Agreed! That's what I noticed when I was researching the saw. I don't rely on lasers/etc. so it wasn't a big deal for me. It would be nice to have the option to use one though. G.
+ghostses it's been good, used to use a Dewalt DW706. I like the Bosch a lot more, also I'm limited on space in my garage so it's perfect for saving space. I was set out to buy a DWS780, but was waiting for the free stand offer to come back. I couldn't pass this deal up. I went back to HD the next day to pick up the Bosch T4B stand, they had it for $180. I was told they had already sold the two other GCM12SDs they had. So paid $570 plus tax for the setup.
650 really isn't a bad price for a top tier professional saw. The DeWalt dws780 is the same price. The millwaukee M18 10 inch is the same price for way less saw. I just got the 10 inch Bosch this week. There are a few things I'm really disappointed in but overall they're things I can mod, add, or just get use to. The width of the handle on my model is ridiculous. You need magic Johnson size hands to operate it comfortably. And it has this super awkward lever on the bottom to release the trigger you have to slide over. Not ergonomic or intuitive the least bit. I'm also very disappointed in Bosch for not including some type of laser or shadow line in the saw. Wouldn't be an issue if the blade guard was completely clear but mine has a matte opaque finish right down the center where you would be able to sight down your blade. I plan to just disable that lever on the trigger and add a sewing machine light mod for a shadow line on mine. I'm also going to modify the dust collection by making a larger rubber shoot and straighten the neck for a mini cyclone dust collection system. But out of the other 3 saws I tried out before settling on this one I'm very pleased with the accuracy of the glide the most and overall that's what's most important in the end.
You scared me with the under sized blade. I put a 100 tooth diablo 12" on my Dewalt 735 just this weekend and had to run out to the garage to check it. Mine is 12" and cuts about 2" past the fence., I did have to adjust it to get a square 90 deg cut though.
+MrMnchstr LOL! I went to Woodcraft today to look at their higher ended Freud 12" blades and they were all 11 3/4" I don't think they had the 100 tooth blade as I recall. Would you mind telling me the model number of the blade have? Thanks, G.
+ghostses Freud D12100X 100 Tooth Diablo Ultra Fine Circular Saw Blade for Wood and Wood Composites, 12-Inch. I ordered it from Amazon. $59.14 prime shipping. I'm about 45 miles from the nearest Lowes or Menards so I order almost everything online (with the help of reviews like yours). After laying my blade on a scrap of wood and using a square it's about a 32nd shy of 12" but the cut is shiny smooth.
+MrMnchstr Thanks for the info! I returned my blade today and picked up the one you suggested. It was right at $70 plus tax so you did good buying online! I didn't have that luxury since I needed it last week...lol. I used it today on clear pine and it cuts really nice. I measured it as a full 12 through the packaging. A 32th off is close enough for me! The 96 was 12" as well. There was one more that was 12. I think it was the 60 but don't hold me to that. I don't know why on earth they'd make undersized blades, but like I said- I'm not happy about it. With all the headache I've taken on trying to get the HF saw to work, and then shelling out for the Bosch- the furthest thing from my mind was the blade...lol. I've always been a fan of the blades. They have a reasonable cost and work extremely well. It's going to take me a while to not see red when I see the red blade...lol. G.
+Mario Monti I got really lucky on this deal Mario! I put my hands on the Hitachi and it seems like a really nice machine. The only thing about it that felt foreign to me was the vertical handle. I could probably get used to it, but prefer them in a horizontal fashion. Other than that, it seemed to be really well built. How are you liking it so far? G.
+ghostses Well, I just picked up the DWX726 last night and mounted the saw. I have to run it through the paces still. That mounting pattern on the Hitachi is more whacked than I thought. That alone makes me want to buy the more expensive DeWalt. lol
Excellent review and demo! Somebody got the buy bug and had to get a miter saw - haha (I'm the same way). Congrats on the price (wow) and your choice on such a nice workhorse. BTW, the child helps carry the cord right?
+MRrwmac Thanks Mac! Yeah, the HF saw didn't work out so I figured I would go from one end of the spectrum to the other. I was floored with what I paid for it. LOL, yep- the child manages the cord! G.
Greetings again! What a great and thorough review! I did find a pretty good fix for the saw dust issue. Check out Dan Pattinson’s UA-cam review on this saw. I realize by now you may already be aware of it. He makes a dust collection boot and I think he has the plans for it on his website. Just curious, what is the brand or model # for the adjustable angle finder you used to check squareness etc. Thanks my friend, Jim
Thanks James! I had seen his video some time back. Looks pretty effective. I got the finder years ago at WoodCraft but don't believe they sell them anymore. Here's a link to one that looks to be the same. Hope it helps, G. www.amazon.com/Universal-Protractor-Magnifier-Degree-Adjustment/dp/B00HG0NVQM
Thanks Belford! I'm glad you liked it. I believe I misspoke in the video and called it a square. It's actually called a machinist protractor. I purchased it at Woodcraft years ago, but it appears they no longer carry them. Hope this helps! Good luck, G.
I believe this to be the best on the market but they need the shadow cut line. Soon as they incorporate one I will upgrade my current Ridgid. Bosch, are you listening?
I got a blade like that to a while ago before I realize they made two different 12 in blades now they just me the 12 in blades for the same saws slider and non sliders I had a blade last week brand new blade in for teeth went flying off
I have the same saw. I am ok with the "pro" you mantion. About some draw back : Dust collection is close to 50% with a shop vac and the worst part is that the engeneer that works on changing the blade was probably drunk
That's cool Raymond! I really like the saw. I use mine outdoors so the collection is not an issue for me. But if I ever do use it inside, I will be addressing it for sure. I agree about the engineer being drunk! They really should address the problem. I find it easier to just remove the guard completely when changing blades. Thanks for the post and good luck, G.
+Duncan Yang Thanks Duncan! It is awesome indeed, and in every way. I know Dewalt is extremely popular so it must be some good stuff. I have a mixture of different brands, but only own/owned two Dewalt tools- a cordles drill and a rotozip. That being said, I'm really no help with the Dewalt brand. Take care, G.
OK, thanks. The one and only problem I've had is that this saw cannot cut 6.5-inch tall baseboards like advertised if you do a right miter. For tall base I use the DW716.
+Duncan Yang Hmm, that's interesting. I don't see installing anything that tall for anything I would do, but it should if advertised to do so. Thanks for the info, G.
I'm guessing someone feels like a little boy getting a shiny new bicycle at Christmas. Sounds like Crown moulding was the "excuse" to get such a nice new toy for himself?
+MRrwmac Heck yeah Mac! And it's not even Christmas yet...lol. Doesn't that mean I can get something else???...lol. The crown is exactly why I had to get a 12" saw. We only paid $60 for 160' of 4 5/8"crown, but my 10" saw couldn't cut it. So I guess the crown cost a lot more now....lol. G.
Thank you G for a great review. When I purchased my Bosch over a year ago, I found the same as you. It was dead on right out of the box. I also found as you did, the upper fence sits back slightly. I didn't measure measure that but has not been a problem. The Bosch is truly a jewel of a saw and should satisfy any wood worker looking for a top quality cut. I am astounded by the Freud blade. There is no excuse for a 12 inch blade not being 12 inches.
+James Lester
Thanks James! I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for the feedback on your fences being set back as well. It lets me know it was designed that way for some reason. It's not a problem, like you mentioned, just something I observed. Man, I'm still taken back how well it was setup out of the box. Yours being the same way really blows my mind. They're on their game in that regard! A jewel it is for sure. I haven't used mine in about a week so I'm starting to go through withdrawals...lol.
Yeah, I still have a bad taste in my mouth over the 12" 80 tooth blade. The way the Bosch saw is designed- they eek out every bit they can to increase the cut capability so it has to have a full 12" blade, or you have to mess with the factory settings. It might not be a problem for other saws, and the user may never even know, but it is for this one. Their 100 and 90 tooth blades are a full 12"- and I think a 60 of some sort. I did put on a 100 tooth and it's working fine. Take care, G.
Excellent video. The best so far I've seen reviewing this beautiful miter saw. Great job!!!
Thanks Jorge! Glad you liked it. It is a great saw hands down! Take care, G.
I am strongly leaning towards this saw and was interested to know how it has held up in the real world over time and would you still recommend it?
While I don't use it professionally, i have used it plenty and it still works like day one. I do recommend it. Good luck, G.
Here it is 5 years later, and this is STILL the king of saws!!! Just got one today!!! Sold my DeWalt to get it because I can put it up against the wall!!!
Agreed! Mine's still working like day one. Good luck with yours, G.
This review was excellent. Really actually gave accuracy amd workmanship review of the saw. Not just repeating what's written on the back of the box. Thank you!
Thanks James! Glad you liked the review. That's the way I roll- honest and unpaid. Take care, G.
I just took my new saw out of the box and made a few cuts and was having the same problem you was having with the freud blade, I called Bosch and was on the phone with someone in the Philippines, which they had to idea what I was talking about, then I ran across your video, thank you so much for clearing things up..
Glad it was helpful JC. Scour the comments for the exact blade I ended up using- but I believe if was Freud's 100 tooth I picked up from HD. It was a true 12" and works great. I believe there are another one or two that are 12" as well. Take care, G.
Appreciated your thorough review of the saw. the review is now 3 years old. Do you still feel as positive about the saw as your review indicated? Not withstanding your great deal, would you purchase this saw again? i am considering buying one and would like your thoughts.
Thanks Rob! Very much so, I'm still completely satisfied and would definitely purchase one again. If you settle on this one, let us know what you think after some use. Take care, G.
One of the best done reviews on UA-cam...TY!
Thanks! Glad you like it. Good luck, G.
You can store the hold down clamp in the same hole just turn it 180º out of the way or put it in the hole on the other side. Works for me. Might have to remove it for 45º or more cuts? Good review. Thx. Ive had mine a several years now and love it. I finally replaced the blade and it cuts like butter now. Your blade is probably square. Use a bigger square and stay off the plastic. If you really want to split hairs on the 45º bevel cut two pieces and fit them together and check for 90º. If your making something like picture frames or something it can really be fine tuned that way. Great saw in my opinion and worth every penny!
Yeah, I do that now so I don't lose track of it. I would like a storage point so it's always out of the way until it's needed. Good tips! I'm with you there- it is a great saw and worth the cost. Take care, G.
I was hesitant about this saw at first, but I think this sealed the deal for me. I'll be buying one for my upcoming home remodeling.
I'm still extremely pleased with mine Steven. Good luck, G.
Simply stated, this is an outstanding review! I have had one for 5 years and it is as accurate today as it was when it was new. My fence setback was just over 5 tho, but ALL the settings were dead accurate out of the box. I did not have the flash issue on the bevel lock. I COMPLETELY agree with your comments about blade change procedure, I also remove the guard completely. The saw weighs 68 lb, so the gravity stand is a must. The only thing I would like to see is a micro adjust on a fence stop, but this is easily machined. I have used Makita, Dewalt, and Festool and except for dust collection, the Bosch is the ticket! I also added a blade laser but it really isn't necessary.
+Don Donaldson
Thanks Don! Man, I was really taken back with how accurate the saw was setup- and still am. My flash issue may have been a one-off- who knows. It's not a big deal to remove the guard, but they should address it- or just amend the manual to just remove it. It does make it way easier to change the blade having it out of the way. I agree, if the saw will be moved around, the gravity stand is a must. I agree 100%- this saw is the ticket. Take care, G.
EXCELLENT REVIEW. THANK YOU! ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS IS RIGHT HERE. WISH ALL REVIEWS WERE THIS THOROUGH
Thanks! Glad you liked it. Take care, G.
A really clear, well-presented and helpful review - thanks very much. I've been debating whether or not to buy one of these and I think that I will now. I need an accurate, large capacity mitre saw but it'll just live in the workshop so I'm not too bothered about the size and weight. Thanks again.
Thanks! I still think it's a great saw. Good luck, G.
Great score G, now I'm going to have to check my local Home Depot's and see what they have for prices. This saw looks awesome, really like that the controls are all our front. Thanks for showing us this.
+Larry527az
Thanks Larry! The first store I went to had them at full price. Why the other store was at $520 I don't know, and I wasn't going to question it...lol. Being able to use the HF 20off made it even better. It is an awesome saw for sure. If you want to get one, go to the top and try the HF coupon. It might work, it might not. Take care, G.
curious to an update? this is a great review and thinking about getting one though in my mind, more parts = more opportunity for failure. How has that hinged system held up? I have a small space and don't want the protruding rails going out the back. Looking at either this saw or makita has one that the blade housing travels along the rails instead of rails going out the back. Thanks again for the review
I still really like the saw. No problems at all. Hope this helps, G.
@@ghostses it does I just ordered one and I still am kind of skeptical about moving Parts breaking but we're going to see how long these hinges last :-)
ghostses would you buy one again ?
@@bradhill5822 In a heartbeat Brad! It's proven itself to be a great saw. Hope this helps, G.
Congratulation on your new Miter Saw. It is my dream to have one in my stall shop because of space-saving. I have a question for you mate. Are you 100% happy with it? for my next update(when I will have the money) I am in between this and another cordless Miter Saw from another brand. Thanks
Thanks Teo! Yes, I'm still completely satisfied with it. I don't how much smaller their 10" version would be. But if you don't need a 12", you might look into one to save more space. Good luck whichever way you decide to go. Take care, G.
@@ghostses Thanks man. Take care.
Well, here we are 5 years after this video posted. Yesterday, I was in a store looking at this exact saw which is still being manufactured, and I think I am as impressed today, as you were 5 years ago. I just found this video and your channel today while looking for reviews on this saw, so, I am a new viewer, and new subscriber. You mentioned the adjustable upper fence being .008 out of parallel with the fixed fence, which is thinner than a piece of US paper currency. I can't think of any woodworking needs where tolerances need to be that precise, so I won't even consider that to be a con with this saw. I think I had already made up my mind about buying one of these saws after the holidays, and watching your video just set my plans in stone. Looks like Santa will be visiting my workshop some time shortly after the StupidBowl.
My only question for you would be How do you feel about the saw after owning it for 5 years??
I'm completely satisfied with it after all this time. I would go for one. Let me know what you think (if you do get one) after some use. Good luck, G.
Great review... Just a thought, with your Diablo blade, if you ad an auxiliary fence, you will solve the problem of not cutting all the way through your working piece.
True! I found another Diablo blade that was a true 12". Solved my problem but that is an option. Good luck, G.
As others have said, outstanding review. Thank you! My big question that I can only find yes and not is the accuracy for full length cuts. Say you have a 16" piece of plywood set against a stop, cut as far as you can, flip it over, does the cut line up? My current kobalt is often like an 1/8 or more off.
Thanks Ron! I've never made such a cut so I can't say for sure. All I can say is it's an extremely accurate saw for anything I throw at it. Good luck, G.
Thank you so much for all the info. You do a great job in presenting info.
Thanks Anne. I'm glad you found it useful. Good luck, G.
I just got the 10" version and it also has the top part of the fence set back just a touch, not a big deal. So far I like this saw!
Thanks Bryan! Thanks for confirming on the 10". I'm sure it well help others. I'm still really liking mine. It's a great saw IMO. Good luck with yours, G.
Well you pushed me over the edge since I've been looking at this saw for a well over a year now... Checked with several HD's and I suspect they may be eliminating these from the stores as several locations no longer display or stock them anymore.
My local store had it on display last week and now it's gone but they did have two on an end cap (one in a box and the other a display model). So I snagged the boxed unit and just as you said it was reduced to $520. I next tried the HF strategy but was turned down. I did this a 2 other stores and both were out of stock.
So I returned to my local store (luckily still available) and purchased the last new one at a 10% discount thanks to a kind manager. I tried to combine a $20 off coupon that was just emailed to me but they wouldn't go for it (only 1 discount/customer) so I choose the bigger 10% discount and felt satisfied getting it for $495 + tax.
Problem is I have a perfectly fine Hitachi C12FDH that has served me well and works fine... now what? ;)
+hiptech
LOL...that's cool! You might be right on HD phasing them out. They are great saws, but can imagine they are slow to move due to their cost. Or perhaps Bosh is coming out with something newer- who knows.
The first store I went to did not have them marked down. I guess for me, it worked out even better since the second did and they let me use the HF coupon. It was worth a shot trying to use the HF coupon, but I agree- you still did good. Have you used it yet? If so, what do you think? If not, let me know when you do.
HMM...I see TWO miter stations in your future...lol. G.
great job explaining all the details on this saw..i bought one last year ,,same model ..really the best I have seen and ultra smooth..there was a couple things I didn't know like the slide outs on rotary table slide outs ..ive only used it a few times so only played with the basics // unforunatley I paid $650.00 at the local hardware store //oh well ..it will last me the rest of my life
Thanks David! I'm still really pleased with mine. Glad the video pointed out things you didn't realize. Even at full price- I still think it's worth it. Mine will last my life as well. Take care, G.
@@ghostses thanks for the reply ..I found all the other gadgets on mine aftr the video and checked to see with my machinist indercator the squareness all around //found it to be spot on ...thanks again
!!im buying the folding cart for easier transport if I do side work at other jobs!!! have a nice day
No problem! The gravity rise stand is awesome and makes moving this beast around much easier. I have a separate video posted on it. Good luck, G.
What did you resolve on the not-quite-12" blade issue? I would also be PO'd if a 3rd-party 12" blade would not cut through, but I need quality of cut -- so does that mean I MUST get blades from Bosch to cut through? (!) Thanks for the excellent review. I had one of these a few years ago, and I had problems with it & returned the saw -- details as to why I returned it are lost in the mists of time. I presently use a Makita LS1016L saw that I am happy with. Please share any follow-up. Why do I care? Well, I'd like to be able to cut through a 4x4 (Read: 12" Blade) in one pass -- thinking about my upcoming Homestead.
+tkarlmann
Yeah, I'm still a bit ticked over that one. Any true 12" blade will work just fine on the saw- regardless of manufacture. I did go with another Freud blade that is a full 12"- D12100X 100 tooth. Their 96 tooth is also 12", and I believe the 60 but can't can't confirm 100%. Perhaps Bosch corrected something since you had yours, who knows. I, of course, can't speak for all the them, but this once is great. Your Makita looks like a really fine machine. I understand why you're needing something larger. I got a great deal on some 5 5/8 crown molding that ended up costing me a larger saw and stand in the end....lol. Hope this helps! Good luck, G.
*****: I'm still slightly confused: You mention Freud Blades. Didn't I see Diablo blades in your vid?
+tkarlmann
Sorry for the confusion. Freud is the manufacture name- Diablo is a series of their blades. This is the exact blade I'm using now. Take care, G.
www.homedepot.com/p/Diablo-12-in-x-100-Tooth-Ultimate-Flawless-Finish-Saw-Blade-D12100X/202786845
Nice review!
That glide system looks awesome, but do you think it will last?
I've had the 10" version for 8 - 10 years and it's also a great saw. It doesn't have the glide system, just two tubes like most bevel saws, but it too is smooth as silk and shows no sign of wear. Of course it does stick out the back and that can be a nuisance occasionally.
There is one thing about the 10" saw that I like better. The clamping mechanism locks with a lever so it's easy to snap and unsnap with a simple motion, and it's height is determined by friction when you lock it down. When you don't need it, it swings to the back out of the way.
I've had no major issues with the saw, but you need to keep an eye on the two lower stops as I've had to re-square them a few times.
+Kate Cassandra
Thanks Kate! That's a great question! The glide system is awesome and I do think it will last- no problem. The pivot points are all loaded with sealed bearings- probably the same type that would be used in a motor spinning thousands of RPM's. With what little they move when using the saw, I see no reason they won't outlast the tool overall.
It sounds like your 10 has been serving you well- that's great! Yeah, the shafts sticking out the back can be a pain- especially if you're cramped for space. It has to be held out from the wall enough to allow for the full travel.
The clamp on yours sounds superior to what this came with for sure. For what this saw costs, It would be nice to have a toggle clamp included like the one you have.
If yours ever dies, which is unlikely, you might look into the glide. I think they also have a 10" version available if you don't require a 12". Put your hands on one, and you will want it....lol. Thanks and good luck, G.
your video is amazing I just got a new saw for Christmas my wife wants a couple projects done and I can't wait to start it and use it thanks for making this video
Thanks Jose! Glad you liked it. Now that was a great gift!!! A few projects is a small price to pay to get one of these...lol. Your going to love it! I think it's the best saw out there. If you ever plan on putting in on a stand, I've done a review of the Bosh stand as well. It's a great addition for the saw. Check it out if you like. Good luck, G.
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Honestly, I believe this is the best review on this saw. It helped make my decision. Waiting on homedepot to ship it ;-)
Thanks!
Thanks! I'm glad it was helpful. Once you get it, let me know what you think. Good luck, G.
What do you think about it now?
Congratulation G, Your experience with the Bosch Glide is same as mine. It is a joy to use and extremely accurate. I have had mine for about four years and use it every day making furniture. It is the second most use tool in my shop next to my Sawstop table saw. Both are designed for and by folks who are woodworkers. I to have been disappointed with saw blades that are to small. I have been using the Bosch DCB1280 Daredevil 12-Inch 80-Tooth blade and very happy with it. Enjoy the new toy. It is a beast. You are the master of Coupons.LOL
+Dev Ogle He is the Master of many things. You can trust this man to give an honest opinion.
+MrMnchstr I agree I love to watch all his Video's. He takes great pride in doing a quality job on what ever he undertakes. Who ever buys his house can take comfort in knowing things are done right.
+Dev Ogle
Thanks Dev! Agreed, it is an extreme joy to use. Knowing you use yours daily, and that it's holding up well, ensures this might be the last miter saw I ever buy! Thanks for the info on the blade. They are pricy, but they look to be a fine blade. I couldn't find one locally so I may have to go another route. I went to Woodcraft toady to look at the higher ended 12" Freud blades and they were all 11 3/4". I can see fudging to 11 15/16" or even 7/8"- but a full 1/4"- come on!
Have you ever adjusted the down-feed stop on your saw to work with smaller blades? It doesn't look like there is much adjustment left so I don't know if there is enough to work with a 11 3/4" blade. Plus it's secured with red Loctite on mine so I don't know how friendly it would be to adjust. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
LOL, yeah- you can blame the mastery of the coupons on my wife! She's taught me well. Be nice, ask, and more often than not you will win....lol. Take care, G.
+MrMnchstr
Well thank you sir! Your comment means a lot to me! Take care, G.
+Dev Ogle
Thank you as well Dev! G.
wow! what a deal. I've had similar experiences with getting good deals at home depot, especially on damaged items. great review man
Thanks Nalu! Yeah, I was stoked with the deal for sure. Good luck, G.
Great review, Are you still using this miter saw and how is it doing and do you still like it? Thank you
Thanks Robert! Yes, I'm still using it and am still completely satisfied. Good luck, G.
Great review. Congrats on the saw . Looks like you got a good one with some well thought out features. Nice, but extremely rare, to find a tool set up correctly out of the box. I've got an older (10-12 years or so) dewalt 705 12" compound miter. Good for trim work and narrow boards, but if I did more cross-cutting I'd seriously consider the slider.
+Gary Hodgin
Thanks Gary! I agree, I was fully expecting to have to adjust SOMETHING- as with most factory setups. Whoever had their hands on this particular saw was on their game for sure!
It sounds like your 705 has been serving you well- good deal! If you ever need to expand your capacity, be sure to check this saw out. Take care, G.
Stumbled across this channel. Great channel and great review.
Thanks Erwin! Glad you like the content. Take care, G.
Very good review, I just unboxed mine today and mounted on my new TB4 Bosch miter saw stand. So Awesome!!
Thanks Nelson! Awesome indeed. Hope it serves you well. Take care, G.
This is how a review should be conducted, thank you!
Thanks Timothy! Glad you like my style! Good luck, G.
Hi Ghostses, thanks for that excellent video, I also have a Bosch Glide like yours but what I want to know is the brand of your Angle finder and where you purchase it. Looks pretty cool. Thanks again.
Glad you liked it! I got the finder years ago at WoodCraft but don't believe they sell them anymore. Here's a link to one that looks to be the same. Hope it helps, G.
www.amazon.com/Universal-Protractor-Magnifier-Degree-Adjustment/dp/B00HG0NVQM
I have one of these saws 3 or 4 years years now , Its mounted on a bench in my workshop , I have a forest blade in it , the accuracy has always been hit and miss , its very easy to put a little side pressure while cutting and throw the cut off , wide cut are worse , If its locked so not to glide I can pull it a head almost a inch , Bosch offered to have me send it for repair but to have to send it halfway across the country would have cost me a couple of hundred dollars. I still use it for rough stuff , I have a 12 inch stationary Dewalt I use for accurate cuts. If it cut accurately all the time I would love the saw, I take great care of my tools and I'm fanatic about proper setup , Love the glide concept but I wouldn't buy another one.
+Darrell LeBlanc
That's no good Darrell! Mines been riding about 300mi/week in my trailer strapped to the wall on a gravity rise stand and it's still dead on. 1" of play when the head is locked makes me thing there's something really wrong with yours. Mine has a little play when locked, but nowhere near what you have. I understand not wanting to send it off for what it would cost. Good to know your DeWalt is working great for you. The Bosch should be right there with it. It's unfortunate you're having problems with yours, and am surprised- based on the experience I've had with mine. I don't know if maybe they've changed something over the years to correct problems, but mine is as close to perfect as perfect can get. Good luck, G.
Thanks for this review. I'm a newbie woodworker and this helped with understanding the saw.
No problem Chris! Good luck with your journey. G.
You make excellent review videos. This saw is out of my price range but you have definitely made me want it save my money for one!
Thanks Kenneth. Yeah, it can be a hard pill to swallow but it is a great saw. Good luck, G.
The bolt that you back off 6 turns can be backed off more, and if you do, the rod will stay put. I can back mine out to where about 3/8” of thread is exposed and the rod fits right in there and stays put.
Good info Jim! I'll give it a go the next time I need to change the blade. Take care, G.
So if your father is a veteran, what did you do to deserve his discount?
It doesn't have to do with deserving Dennis. They help families of veterans as well. He told me on big ticket items, he would go with me so we could save some money. Nothing nefarious, just him offering and helping us out. G.
Nice review. You certainly got a bargain with your purchase. Here in Oz this saw is going for $1100.00 + AUD. We certainly seem to pay premium prices. Well done, enjoy your saw.
Thanks John! Yeah, that's quit a premium to pay no doubt. Take care, G.
good review. for your blade issue an auxiliary fence would fix the problem. have the same model saw and stand and agree if you move the saw a lot you need the stand
Thanks Ken! An aux fence would take care of the problem for sure. I ended up going to HD and measuring all the 12" Diablo blades and found 2 or 3 different tooth counts that were a full 12. I went with the 100 tooth and it works great. Why the 80 is small is still beyond me.
Yeah, this thing is a monster! The saw with stand combo is awesome for sure. Take care, G.
To eliminate tear out, zero clearance inserts are needed on any saw. By adjusting the kerf inserts in toward the blade that will reduce the clearance normally needed to accommodate bevel cuts. That feature is not standard on most miter saws. I am looking to upgrade my miter saw and I have my eyes on this Bosch model.
True Randal, they are adjustable which is unique. It really is a great saw. I've made zero clearance inserts out of wood to use on this saw. One for 90 cuts, and others for miter cuts. I think I've made about eight and have only used a couple for specific compound beveled cuts. Either way, it is a nice saw and very versatile. Good luck, G.
What a super addition to your shop and a great review as always. Just in time for trimming out the remodel. That was a surprise about the Diablo blade. Seems deceptive to me. A 7 1/2" blade is 7 1/2" not 8" and a 11 3/4" is 11 3/4" not 12". The electronic industry got in trouble for this behavior not so long ago. I expected better from Freud.
+WoodRodent
That it is and thanks! Yeah, I'm pretty ticked off with them. I've been using their blades for years on my TS and circular saw. I went by Woodcraft today and checked their higher ended Freud blades they had and they were all 11 3/4". I can see maybe a 1/16" shy- but a full 1/4? I too expected better! G.
What angle finder are you using? What might cause ringing in the blade like that?
Great review and I really appreciate your detail about this miter saw. Your video detail has convinced me to purchase this model.
The price you paid for the saw is crazy awesome, great work.
Thanks David! It's a great saw hands down. The angle finder I'm using is called a universal bevel protractor. I got mine at Woodcraft but I don't believe they still carry them. Here's a link to one that looks to be just like mine.
www.amazon.com/Universal-Protractor-Magnifier-Degree-Adjustment/dp/B00HG0NVQM
The Freud blade has laser cut slots that act as silencers- as well as allow for expansion without warping due to heat. The blade that came with the saw had some slots, but not like the Freud. It not being coated could also add to the ringing- but not sure. I personally like the Freud blades due to their cost being fair- and they have a really good cut quality. If you pick up a saw, let me know what you think. Good luck, G.
ghostses what did you decide to do with the Diablo blade since it was only 11-3/4?
David, I need to add a note to the video about that problem. That blade
went back and I was tipped off by another viewer that their Freud 100
tooth blade was in fact 12". So that's the one I ended up with. Here's a
link. I measured a couple more Freud blades while I was there and
found others were 12" as well. I can't remember which ones, but believe I noted them in the comments somewhere. G.
www.homedepot.com/p/Diablo-12-in-x-100-Tooth-Ultimate-Flawless-Finish-Saw-Blade-D12100X/202786845
ghostses I went ahead and bought this saw. This saw is a beast.
When it sits on my basic Delta miter stand saw I noticed due to weight there is movement forward and back of the whole saw itself as the arm comes forward. I know you have the T4B gravity stand, does it have that kind of forward and back movement on the stand? Thanks again for your great video.
That's cool David! Yeah, it's a beast for sure. I doubt Delta has any saws that weigh in like the Bosch, so they probably built them lighter. I would say no on any T4B movement. If you get the leveling feet adjusted so it has 4 points of contact- it stays put. It really is a great stand. Not trying to spend more of your money, but that's my opinion and I have nothing to gain from saying so. If you do pick one up, post your thoughts on that video. Take care, G.
i've seen a lot of reviews on amazon along with pictures about the quality of the cuts and it doesn't cut straight, specially when using the gliding system, have you noticed this as well?
No, I haven't noticed any problems like that. Good luck, G.
Great review! I'll be getting one of these for my husband
Thanks! I'm glad you found it useful. It is a great saw! I'm sure he's going to love it, and you even more...lol. Take care, G.
Wow G, you really got a super deal at HD and the Bosch 12" glide miter is a awesome saw. Mick
+Mickj47
I did for sure Mick. I'm still stoked about it! Take care, G.
Thanks for such a detailed and unbiased review.
+Rick Williams
No problem Rick! I do call them as I see them, and this is a great saw! Take care, G.
will that was a very good buy. i think my was a little better / at my home depot they had this same miter saw on clearance for $289.00 and on top of that they also had the miter stand for $210. that was a deal of a life time for me. very happy with my buy , you never know what deal ever come up and yes not all home depot are the same.
That is was Victor! Great score! Good luck, G.
great saw i would recommend not leaving it in the sun seems to weaken the plastic after 3 years was decolored and the handle broke off plastic weakened dramatically
+MarcAndre197
Great info Marc! Thanks for the heads up regarding UV breaking down the plastic bits. Take care, G.
Great review. I'm also a fan of Diablo blades, and wasn't too pleased to hear about their 12" blades ( which I don't require ), but still it's the principle of the thing. BTW what does the "G" stand for? Gary, Greg, George?
+hankus253
Thanks Hank! Yeah, I've been using their 10's for years, and even ones on my circular saw. It is the principle for sure. I bought a 100 tooth Diablo and it is a full 12". The 96 is also 12". I think the 60 is as well, but can't remember for sure. LOL, the "G" is just short for ghostses. Take care, G.
The best model Bosch ever made was the CM8S 8.5" sliding miter saw with the vertical handle over the saw blade. Why didn't Bosch continue this handle design on their Axial glide saws?
Not sure. Personally I like this style over the vertical. I have an old Craftsman 10" that had a handle that could be rotated for preference. It would be nice if they would incorporate something like that. Take care, G.
I just bought a Makita LS1016L from Home-Depot . I would be too embarrassed to use a competitor coupons.
The saw +lazer is a little inaccurate so hoping HD can repair/adjust it. Got it online cause the stores do not carry that model. Paid something like $498 for it.
That's cool! You might not get them to dial it in/adjust it. They're just a seller and probably don't have staff skilled to dial them in. Most saws, the one in the video being a rare exception to the rule, would need to be adjusted out of the box. You might look into the manual, or the web, to figure out how to dial yours in. I'm sure you can make it perform well. Good luck, G.
Before I even start watching this, I had a feeling somehow 20% harbor freight coupon would be involved . this proves you are the king of 20% coupon. :-)
LOL! You know me all too well! If you don't ask, the answer is always no. If you do ask, you might get a yes, or a no. The first store was a no, the second was a yes....lol. Good to hear from you, it's been a while. Take care, G.
well, I'll stay content at being the second best 20% er out the door ;-). enjoy the Rolls Royce of miter saws.
LOL! That's cool! I'm all about the 20% as you know- and always try to use a free item coupon to boot. I mainly snatch up the screwdriver sets (to give away and I stash them everywhere I can), and the tarps. I think I have about 20 tarps and have used all at one time. This saw is the Rolls for sure, but does cost a lot of cash. Others work just fine, depending on the need. For the ultimate in precision, this thing is the bomb! G.
yes indeed. if i had a molding install business or a major production shop, i would get one of those. as is, i might use a miter saw once a year if that. but it never hurts to have at least that one special tool like the Rolls. AKA dool tool in the shop even just to look at and drool.
That's cool. This is definitely one of my drool tools...lol. G.
That is one nice miter saw; probably the best miter saw I have used. Sadly, I do not own one myself.
+Ben's Collection and Sundry
That it is Ben! Sad it is for sure, to have experienced the quality of the saw first hand and not own one. If you didn't know any difference, you would be none the wiser. But since you have, you'll have to put it on your list of to gets! Take care, G.
to overcome the diablo blade not cutting through the material, you can attach a 3/4" fence to the saw's fence.
Very true Randall. I did get another Diablo that was an actual 12" blade. I think it was the 100 tooth count. I reference it in the comments somewhere. Take care, G.
Any flex when fully extended?
None that I've noticed. G.
Thorough, methodical.progression. Appreciated!
Thanks! Glad you like it. Good luck, G.
This review sold me, getting the bosch
I still really like mine. Good luck, G.
I have the same saw maybe 5 months or so, other than getting the deal on the saw I got the saw and stand for $650!! A bargain as far as I'm concerned. I used this professionally every day and as with you the only complaint I have is the weight. Sorry that's ALL I can come up with on negative comment about it!! Not bad at all. Still cuts as sq as the day I got it as well. Thanks for the very through review!
That was a steal for the saw and stand for $650! I think it's worth every penny, and then some even at full price. Not for everyone, but for those wanting to do, or that do, precision work- it's probably the best option available in my opinion. I don't use mine daily, so I envision it lasting the long haul for me. Glad you liked the review. Take care, G.
Excellent review. Thank you.
Thanks! Take care, G.
I work at Home Depot Part time, retired military, this saw is now being clearanced out, I just bought one for $325. You need to hurry though, HD rolls their clearance every three days after two or three reductions it is taken out of the store. If you can get one you will not regret it. Displays are even cheaper, talk to manager on those.
+Cali Valley
Thanks for the info! You got a really good deal for sure. I agree, one would not regret getting one. Mine is great! Take care, G.
Great Review. Thank you! Highly considering this saw.
Thanks! I'm still quite pleased with mine. Good luck, G.
@@ghostses It is frustrating that for the price there is no laser or LED cut system. Apparently the European equivalent to this comes with a laser.
@@arc.handyman1905 Agreed! That's what I noticed when I was researching the saw. I don't rely on lasers/etc. so it wasn't a big deal for me. It would be nice to have the option to use one though. G.
Great review! I picked up one from my local Home Depot for $390.00 a few days ago.
+Chris Cooper
Thanks Chris! Man, you got a killer deal on the saw! How are you liking it so far? I'm still loving mine. Good luck, G.
+ghostses it's been good, used to use a Dewalt DW706. I like the Bosch a lot more, also I'm limited on space in my garage so it's perfect for saving space. I was set out to buy a DWS780, but was waiting for the free stand offer to come back. I couldn't pass this deal up. I went back to HD the next day to pick up the Bosch T4B stand, they had it for $180. I was told they had already sold the two other GCM12SDs they had. So paid $570 plus tax for the setup.
+Chris Cooper
That's cool! I have the stand as well and it's also great! You got a good deal on it also. It's a great setup. Take care, G.
650 really isn't a bad price for a top tier professional saw. The DeWalt dws780 is the same price. The millwaukee M18 10 inch is the same price for way less saw. I just got the 10 inch Bosch this week. There are a few things I'm really disappointed in but overall they're things I can mod, add, or just get use to. The width of the handle on my model is ridiculous. You need magic Johnson size hands to operate it comfortably. And it has this super awkward lever on the bottom to release the trigger you have to slide over. Not ergonomic or intuitive the least bit. I'm also very disappointed in Bosch for not including some type of laser or shadow line in the saw. Wouldn't be an issue if the blade guard was completely clear but mine has a matte opaque finish right down the center where you would be able to sight down your blade. I plan to just disable that lever on the trigger and add a sewing machine light mod for a shadow line on mine. I'm also going to modify the dust collection by making a larger rubber shoot and straighten the neck for a mini cyclone dust collection system. But out of the other 3 saws I tried out before settling on this one I'm very pleased with the accuracy of the glide the most and overall that's what's most important in the end.
Thanks for your thoughts! Good luck! G.
You scared me with the under sized blade. I put a 100 tooth diablo 12" on my Dewalt 735 just this weekend and had to run out to the garage to check it. Mine is 12" and cuts about 2" past the fence., I did have to adjust it to get a square 90 deg cut though.
+MrMnchstr
LOL! I went to Woodcraft today to look at their higher ended Freud 12" blades and they were all 11 3/4" I don't think they had the 100 tooth blade as I recall. Would you mind telling me the model number of the blade have? Thanks, G.
+ghostses Freud D12100X 100 Tooth Diablo Ultra Fine Circular Saw Blade for Wood and Wood Composites, 12-Inch. I ordered it from Amazon. $59.14 prime shipping. I'm about 45 miles from the nearest Lowes or Menards so I order almost everything online (with the help of reviews like yours). After laying my blade on a scrap of wood and using a square it's about a 32nd shy of 12" but the cut is shiny smooth.
+ghostses I mis spoke. My saw is the DEWALT DWS780
+MrMnchstr
Thanks for the info! I returned my blade today and picked up the one you suggested. It was right at $70 plus tax so you did good buying online! I didn't have that luxury since I needed it last week...lol. I used it today on clear pine and it cuts really nice. I measured it as a full 12 through the packaging. A 32th off is close enough for me! The 96 was 12" as well. There was one more that was 12. I think it was the 60 but don't hold me to that.
I don't know why on earth they'd make undersized blades, but like I said- I'm not happy about it. With all the headache I've taken on trying to get the HF saw to work, and then shelling out for the Bosch- the furthest thing from my mind was the blade...lol. I've always been a fan of the blades. They have a reasonable cost and work extremely well. It's going to take me a while to not see red when I see the red blade...lol. G.
+MrMnchstr
That's cool. I've never owned one, but do know they are fine machines. If they weren't- you wouldn't see them everywhere! G.
I guess I missed out on this sale and the DeWalt 780. Bought the Hitachi C12RSH on sale for $330.
+Mario Monti
I got really lucky on this deal Mario! I put my hands on the Hitachi and it seems like a really nice machine. The only thing about it that felt foreign to me was the vertical handle. I could probably get used to it, but prefer them in a horizontal fashion. Other than that, it seemed to be really well built. How are you liking it so far? G.
+ghostses Well, I just picked up the DWX726 last night and mounted the saw.
I have to run it through the paces still.
That mounting pattern on the Hitachi is more whacked than I thought.
That alone makes me want to buy the more expensive DeWalt. lol
+Mario Monti
That's cool! Why they all can't have a simple rectangular bolt pattern is beyond me. G.
well I must say you really really good reviews, this is the second one I have watched and it's good.
Well thanks Jamon! I try to call them like I see them- and be thorough. Glad you liked it. Good luck, G.
Outstanding review. Good work.
Thanks! Good luck, G.
I have got one it was supper outstanding
That it is. G.
WOW! What a great saw. Congrats!
+Rob Lopez
Thanks Rob! Take care, G.
Excellent review and demo! Somebody got the buy bug and had to get a miter saw - haha (I'm the same way). Congrats on the price (wow) and your choice on such a nice workhorse. BTW, the child helps carry the cord right?
+MRrwmac
Thanks Mac! Yeah, the HF saw didn't work out so I figured I would go from one end of the spectrum to the other. I was floored with what I paid for it. LOL, yep- the child manages the cord! G.
I just can't see that toggle system holding up with good metal slideways. The loading on those bearings has got to be immense.
No problems yet Lawrence, but only time will tell. Good luck, G.
Is there any deflection
Nothing I could detect. G.
Greetings again! What a great and thorough review! I did find a pretty good fix for the saw dust issue. Check out Dan Pattinson’s UA-cam review on this saw. I realize by now you may already be aware of it. He makes a dust collection boot and I think he has the plans for it on his website. Just curious, what is the brand or model # for the adjustable angle finder you used to check squareness etc. Thanks my friend, Jim
Thanks James! I had seen his video some time back. Looks pretty effective. I got the finder years ago at WoodCraft but don't believe they sell them anymore. Here's a link to one that looks to be the same. Hope it helps, G.
www.amazon.com/Universal-Protractor-Magnifier-Degree-Adjustment/dp/B00HG0NVQM
Ghostes. great video sir. Thank you!
Thanks Rocco! Good luck, G.
The only problem is that it doesn't offer a guide like the XPS of Dewalt DWS780
I'm not sure what guide you're referring to- a laser? G.
Really helpful review. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Emilie! Glad you liked it. Take care, G.
Excellent review. What is the brand name of that machinists square you used? (the one with the bubble)
Thanks Belford! I'm glad you liked it. I believe I misspoke in the video and called it a square. It's actually called a machinist protractor. I purchased it at Woodcraft years ago, but it appears they no longer carry them. Hope this helps! Good luck, G.
When you said “ I’m not happy” my first thought was “ Well then which one are you?” 😊
Some might say Dopey. Others, Happy. But really it's Bashful....lol. Take care, G.
I believe this to be the best on the market but they need the shadow cut line. Soon as they incorporate one I will upgrade my current Ridgid. Bosch, are you listening?
I agree, a shadow line would be nice. I've never thought much of it, but you might be able to add one. Take care, G.
The BEST Miter Saw. Thanks for German Engineering
Thanks Yuran. I really like it. Take care, G.
Thank you for the detail review. Excellent.
Thanks! G.
Great story man, love discount stories.
Thanks! I really like them too- especially when they're mine....lol. Good luck, G.
Best review I've seen
Thanks Cesar! Good luck, G.
Diablo makes a sliding saw blade now that's bigger dia. For sliders standard 12" diablo blades are for standard compound miter saws
Troy, I did return that blade and got a higher tooth count that was a full 12". Been using it ever since with no issues. Thanks for the info, G.
I got a blade like that to a while ago before I realize they made two different 12 in blades now they just me the 12 in blades for the same saws slider and non sliders I had a blade last week brand new blade in for teeth went flying off
That's cool. Not good on the teeth flying off. G.
just bought one from home depot using harbor freight coupon no problems.
Good deal! It's a great saw. Let me know what you think after using it a bit. Take care, G.
great in depth video, thank you
Thanks Dan! Glad you liked it. Good luck, G.
That was an excellent review!
Thanks! Good luck, G.
Great review and very informative.
Thanks! Glad you liked it. Take care, G.
great deal on this nice saw
+Bob N
That is was Bob! I'm loving it. Hope you're all doing well. G.
great review
+iwantosavemoney
Thanks! Take care, G.
Great review. Thanks!
Thanks Lee! I'm glad you liked it. Good luck, G.
Damn u G, gimmie back my saw. Nice score bro. i am green. (you know....envy).
+Matthew Phelps
LOL!!! Thanks Man! I know the color green all too well...lol. I guess this time, the glory's all mine...!!! Take care, G.
I have the same saw. I am ok with the "pro" you mantion. About some draw back : Dust collection is close to 50% with a shop vac and the worst part is that the engeneer that works on changing the blade was probably drunk
That's cool Raymond! I really like the saw. I use mine outdoors so the collection is not an issue for me. But if I ever do use it inside, I will be addressing it for sure. I agree about the engineer being drunk! They really should address the problem. I find it easier to just remove the guard completely when changing blades. Thanks for the post and good luck, G.
funny, I remove the garde as well to ease the changing blade process
Great review!! I looked at this saw at HD and it is AWESOME!!
Oh, and any luck with Dewalt stuff?
+Duncan Yang
Thanks Duncan! It is awesome indeed, and in every way.
I know Dewalt is extremely popular so it must be some good stuff. I have a mixture of different brands, but only own/owned two Dewalt tools- a cordles drill and a rotozip. That being said, I'm really no help with the Dewalt brand. Take care, G.
OK, thanks. The one and only problem I've had is that this saw cannot cut 6.5-inch tall baseboards like advertised if you do a right miter. For tall base I use the DW716.
+Duncan Yang
Hmm, that's interesting. I don't see installing anything that tall for anything I would do, but it should if advertised to do so. Thanks for the info, G.
I can believe it when you hard ball the store but it wasn't simply by asking.
Yes it was. G.
I'm guessing someone feels like a little boy getting a shiny new bicycle at Christmas. Sounds like Crown moulding was the "excuse" to get such a nice new toy for himself?
+MRrwmac
Heck yeah Mac! And it's not even Christmas yet...lol. Doesn't that mean I can get something else???...lol. The crown is exactly why I had to get a 12" saw. We only paid $60 for 160' of 4 5/8"crown, but my 10" saw couldn't cut it. So I guess the crown cost a lot more now....lol. G.
that was awsome
Thanks Christopher! Glad you liked it. Good luck, G.