Audi A6 / A7 (C7 4G) Automatic transmission fluid replacement in - DIY
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) replacement in Audi A6 /A7 C7 4G 3.0 T - 8 speed automatic transmission
Tools needed:
Philips screwdriver
Torx - I believe it was T45 and T50)
Socket - 18mm & 8mm
Tripple square - 10mm & 12mm
Hex - 10mm & 5 mm
Ross Tech VCDS or something else that shows ATF temp
Oil pan tightening specs - www.audiworld....
Parts:
ZF Lifeguard 8 ATF ( I used 5 liters)
BECK/ARNLEY filter 0440387
N91174201 -front suspension, suspension mounting, support brace front bolt x 2 (two of those)
N91174101 -front suspension, suspension mounting, support brace rear bolt x 6 (six of those) - Авто та транспорт
Thanks for the video. We are also going to be doing a DIY on this project soon and will reference this video in the description.
Turn the music off you can't hear you!!!!
Im doing the transmission service on my 2016 a7 3.0t zf 8 speed with 91k miles for the first time. Am I too late??
is there 2 different oils and 2 different filters for the automatic s-tronic gearbox in the same car? i mean theres is the Automatic transmission with idk how many litres of oil, and S-tronic oil change that needs only 0.9L and a smaller different filter? im confused
Hey Felek. Just wanted to check in with you and see if you have any updates on the performance of your transmission after replacing the ATF. I have the same vehicle with 77k and currently I am debating whether I should change the ATF. Any feedback will help. Thanks
Hi Falek
Great clip
Please if you can help me with next one;
I bought Audi A6,2009 2.0fsi 170hp here in Kuwait. When put in Sport drive, it kind a jerk it’s smooth like in normal D. Car has 119k km.
Im pretty sure that previous owner didn’t change transmission oil and filter.
Here are temperatures are nuts 9 months during year. Any advice would be appreciated. Is it time for oil change or it is something more serious!?
Tnx a lot
Nedzad
good job, my friend .... thanks for this video ; )
The 2 liter engine on A6 came with CVT transmission but I believe TDI is same as this one (8 speed) so it should be the same procedure on TDI.
I didn't know that you could do that I was told that if you open the gearbox it has to be surgical conditions in the vacuumed room one tiny bit of dust gets in there t you cause you problems That's what I've been told by a professional you should never do that what you've just done
:) Not even a dealership would meet those conditions
A year and a half ago I purchased a 2007 Audi A6Q Avant 3.2L with 139K Miles, I was told that the Transmission had been serviced at 85K. The 6 Speed ZF Transmission never failed but Shifts didn't always feel great. Recently at 165 K Miles I performed a Drain and Refill using Schaeffer's All-Trans ATF (my favorite ATF / under 1 and a half Gallons required for a Drain and Fill), the improved Shift Quality is Amazing. I will Probably do it again within the next 12 Months. BTW, I used a 2 Gallon Chemical Sprayer (Modified) to Pump the Fluid in from below and a Hand Held Temperature Device to set the Fill Level at 33°C. Randy AKA randog311 (Retired Professional Wrench, Audi's are my Specialty)
Hello Felek, thanks for the video. I have the 8-speed tip on a A5 2015, 72,000km. My question is if I can simply drain and fill (through) the fill hole a few times and call it done, I.e. not change the filter nor drop the pan. Q1) Was there a lot of oil that came out initially through the drain plug? How much do you think? Q2) If I do it properly 2 or 3 times at an interval of 3,000-4,000km , I would assume the fluid would be changed sufficiently, no? Thoughts ?
Thanks for watching. I don't think it makes much sense to flush the fluids without replacing filter. After all that's where all the junk collects + magnets. I think it was like 3 liters of oil that drained out before I removed the pan. Also, if you decide to remove the pan, doing it once every 40k miles or so is sufficient... at least that's what I was told.
talk about over complicating a car god damn...
Thanks for doing this video. What are the torque specs for the m10 bolts on the rear trans bracket? Also torque specs on the 13mm nuts on same bracket? Thanks.
The only torque specs I have are in the vid description.
Where did you run that hose to??
How many Liters did you use?
Felak please tell me if the transmission hasn't been changed fluid after transmission replacement is it possible to feel smell comes from AC while u keep pressing the brakes ? As they changed but while i drive I do not feel anything, but when i keep foot on brakes the smell vomes after 10-15sec???
Great video, thanks for making it. I went to the dealer and asked about this service, they told me they don't do it. Can you believe that>? How long would you say it took?
It will take about 3-4 hrs. It took me longer because of the recording.
The reason the dealer said to not do it is because Audi claims the fluid is lifetime, whereas ZF says you need to change it every 80K (on a stock vehicle). Kind of puts audi owners in a bad position, but you will not do any damage to the Transmission as long as you do it correctly. It can only help.
@@AudiC7Owners Interesting on the "Lifetime" ATF. I have seen several other Domestic Manufacturers use this language as well in the Manual. It must be pretty common.
For the ‘average’ car user, “LIFETIME” means 80-100k miles. Because of that, the fluid is rated as “lifetime” and shouldn’t need to be changed during the first owner’s use….aka, for the lifetime of the car. Since we ‘fans’ of these cars drive them well past the 80-100k, this service should be done. As someone else said, it can’t hurt, only improve.
I did exact same transmission oil and filter change job for same year A7 but for TDI engine. I also filled oil your way. But one question and concern. After leveling the car, how many quarts you were able to put before it started spilling? I just finished this job and haven't started the car yet nor until I will feel comfortable. So far my car took almost 2.75 quarts and started spilling. Did same happened with you? And after starting and warming up the car, how much more it took?
Please do tell me, I will wait for your confirmation.
Hey Felek. Just wanted to check in with you and see if you have any updates on the performance of your transmission after replacing the ATF. I have the same vehicle with 77k and currently I am debating whether I should change the ATF. Any feedback will help. Thanks
No issues since I've done it, everything is smooth. 77k miles or km? I don't think I would do it at 77k miles.
Felek How would you justify your decision of not doing it at 77k miles?
Too risky... you should watch this before you decide - ua-cam.com/video/o690DovjDAc/v-deo.html
No problem using the old gasket?
Nope, all good
I've serviced my a6 today but they told me the filter is internal for life no need to change is that correct?
my car has 25,000km but it is a 2012, would you recommend changing the fluid? would a simple drain and top off be enough without dropping the pan? Would I be able to go around without the top off when car is warm if I dont have the program and cable?
If you don't have the tools and not planning to drop the pan, I wouldn't touch it
Okay so you NEED to work on camera angles like for sure. And also list every single tool you'll need going into this. For someone who's only ever owned American cars, allens and torques are not common stuff so it's nice to know going in what sizes I'll need so I can just buy them straightaway.
Do newer cars need fluid change ?like 2019 audi a6
I hope you will answer my question, why do I change the oil, do I need to change it, I have the same car as you
Get rid of music and say what you doing like chrisfix
Dealership in USA wants 900$ to do this LOL
Hey man , The Audi maintenance menu says , you don’t need to change the transmission fluid . They just say “check for leak “ why do you do that ?
Theoretically it's a lifetime fluid but nothing lasts forever. You drive the car and the fluid gets used.... it's really personal choice rather than 'must do'
you should stress the point that the fill level is a 'RUNNING' level at ~30c. audi suggests you leave the car in park with engine running and as the temp reaches 30C then do your final top off. the oil heats up very quickly so audi have given room for maneuver especially in hot countries. so if its warmer than 30c put a little extra in etc. common sense approach.
First it was heating up slowly and then started getting too hot quickly. I barely made it in the temp window
@@FelekPL
Great video, just to confirm, you kept the drain plug snug while running the engine, then once you hit 30C you kept the engine running in P without applying the brake and then topped up the fluid or did you turn off the car and top it off until it was overflowing?
@@Alexandre000444 After the initial fill, I put the plug in (without really tightening it in), started the engine, applied e-brake and pressed brake pedal in, shifted few times to D and R and then put it to P, let the fluid warm up to 30C and then topped it off while the engine was running and the car was in P. You top it off until it is leaking with a small solid stream
@@FelekPL Thank you for the quick feedback, i am using your video for my own DIY. I've linked your video to this post where I am documenting all fluid changes. Thanks for the great video!
www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/873116-DIY-Guide-Transmission-Front-Final-Drive-Transfer-Case-Rear-Final-Drive-Fluids
How long was this in real life? Time lapse it was 25 minutes. How much was all the fluids, filter, new bolts? Not to mention the aggravation of mess, supporting the transmission and crawling around under the vehicle.
I would tend to disagree on reusing the gasket. If the new filter comes with one supplied I say use the new one. Is it a rubber/silicon gasket? Meaning no RTV used?
What mileage was on the transmission when your replaces fluid and filter?
Bad for Audi to design so much extra work to remove the pan......but Kudos.....to at least having a replaceable filter and not totally sealed transmission.
Did rolling the vehicle on the ramps give you the working room for most of the project....minus the fluid filling.
Just to clarify this is the ZF 8 speed transmission right? that seems to be a popular transmission used by a variety of vehicles in the modern era.
Lots of questions. This took like 5 hrs , recording vid added quite a bit of time. Don't remember the price of the filter any more. Fluid was $150 and bolts were few bucks. The new gasket looked like crap and old one looked solid and clean. Car had 43k miles. Ramps give me enough room for the most projects, but at the same time it would be nice to have a lift. And yes on ZF 8 speed trans.
I couldn’t see crap of what u were doing
What is your transmission code ? 0BK?
Torque specs on mount and crossmember bolts?
In a 2007 automatic transmission Audi A6 3.2, would you change the oil if the car has 180,000 km? and never been changed before.
No, I wouldn't touch it. Just let it be
@@FelekPL How long you think it will last b4 i lose the transmission?
You'll be fine, won't lose it, it will just get more rough over time
@@FelekPL thank you.
same situation to me. considering to change it but suddenly read these comments lol
how many filters does the S-trobic have?
Some gona say 1 Suction 2 pressure filter.
I have the same car 3.0 T quattro 204 HP S-tronic..
Don't know about how many filters in S-tronic. Lucky you, wish I had S-tronic. Do you have launch control?
Tomek Felczynski OK. I understood, I have to keep looking and inquire. Yes I have LC
Tomek Felczynski not happy with yours?
Do you had to disconnect the battery at any point?
You don't show the access point to get the hose in.
Thank you for the video dude!
Hello please I have a 2011 audi q5 quattro sline all my transmission oil has leak out now I want to fill it up back but I dont know the type of fuel it used
So I want to know what type of transmission I have at or cvt
Also what oil should I buy
After how many miles S tronic transmission oil shall be change?
Well done
What color is the transmission fluid? What was so wrong with the traditional simple red dyes for trans fluid?
Just subbed Hoping you can help, At 15:35 , I hit a big rock on road and cracked that housing piece you are installing and now is leaking fluid. 2 questions 1) Is there fluid inside of there or am I possibly looking at bigger problem than that? 2) what is the name of that part?
Sounds like you might have cracked the transmission oil pan. Yes, there is fluid/oil and filter inside.
@@FelekPL im possibly thinking that , yet the leaking is very small and the fluid doesn't look red like trans fluid more black. but just to be clear there there also is fluid & filter in that housing with the flat face ?
@@83elnes Yes, there is fluid and filter inside.... and transmission fluid does not have to be red. When I replaced it the new one was green/gray. It really depends on what you get.
VERY ANNOYING MUSIC
Is the same work and for Audi a4 b8 2014?
Hi I need help How I can check transmission oil level in A6 C7 2.0 tdi 2013 Multitronic oil was changed 20k ago but now I have fault input speed sensor (G 182) guy that fixing transmissions computers said that I should check the oil level first because in many occasion their clients had low oil with that fault.How to add oil into transmission?Thanks guys I speak Polish 2 so if anyone can help me thanks 🙏
I'm not sure about G 182 error, but to check the level you have to warm up the car a little bit (check temp in the video, I think it was 35 degrees C temp) and then loosen fill up plug. If the oil is dripping then you are good, if not, open it all the way and top off until it starts dripping.
Felek Hi Felek thanks for quick response 👍 so the fill up plug is located on side of transmission not underneath,correct? The guy that I mentioned earlier said that on many occasions clients was taking out computer for the reason of that fault realised that transmission had low oil sometimes up to 1liter once they add oil everything was back to normal no more fault (G182) Thanks budy 👍 you doing great job with videos and I like our a
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@@niebkoniebuszewski1617 Yes, the fill up is on the side a little bit higher. The one on the bottom is drain plug.
Felek thanks good man👍
I will take mine to the dealer. They do this. Not sure why one said their dealer wouldn't do it??? I cant imagine that.
Because they will tell you it is a lifetime fluid and does not need to be changed. Go ahead and take it, does not make a difference to me. This video is for people who for one or another reason decided to do it themselves.
@@FelekPL ok thanks
Hello can you please help. My 2011 audi A7 is currently 116k i do not know if the tranmission oil has ever been changed. It is running fine with no problems. Do you think i should change it. Or leave it as its not giving me any problems. I have read alot of horror stories on transmission failing after a change aswell as not changing it. So im a bit confused. Its a CVT gearbox thanks. Any advice is appreciated im thinking to take it to Audi dealers soon
You should change it around 40-50k miles. You are at 70k +miles... I think I would let it be and not change it.
Partial fluid change is the best for long miles. 205.000 miles and still my transmission runs like brand new. There is no way that anyone can get all the fluids out even if they change the filter because there are more quarters inside torque converter and other parts of the transmission . But mixing the new with the old fluid will make the transmission run forever like brand new.
Great video! I have a 2008 Audi C6 but have 147,000 miles. Would you recommend replacing the transmission fluid...? Audi suggested replacing the transmission fluid but I opted out....not sure if was going to cause more harm than good. Just seems like a catch 22 lol planning on making to 200,000 miles or so.
I wouldn't replace it any more, too many miles. 200k sounds good!
Thank you
Hello. Very nice video you made. I couldn't find it in the description. Could you please tell me what is the gearbox code on this car?
No idea
I've heard there are plastic clips holding the underbody gearbox cover on as well for these cars or is it just the screws?
Plastic clips? Hmm... don't think so. It was just screws
Hello gunther
Felek how does ravenol ATF compare to the ATF you used in your video? Which do you think is better? Also what is the brand of the filter kit you are using? Do you know the name of the brand Audi uses?
Not sure about revenol ATF. The one I used is German and had good reviews. Ecstuning has original Audi filter and ATF, you can check the brand but it costs like 3 times as much
Why do the Audi C7 Transmission service kits come with 9 liters of fluid when you can only fit in 5? Are four liters in the torque converter? I saw that Calimus on the AudiWorld Forum said the same, his only took 5 liters too. Felek, do you know, everything still good with your trans?
So here is my 2 cents on it. The transmission works good as far as I can tell, smooth switches , no issues. As far as the ATF quantity, I saw some kits with 7 liters and some with 9. I believe rest of the oil sits in the transmission itself, not sure if there is a way to fully drain it. Maybe you repeat the process ? - put 3 L (It takes about 3ish L to fill it up before you start the engine) , start the engine and let it mix with the old one , drain again and put 5 L to fill it up?
@@FelekPL Thanks for the reply, I think I'll do exactly what you did since yours is running good. I went ahead and ordered 7 liters of ZF LifeGuard just in the event I need more. It looks like I'll only need 5 though.
@@tylernewberry1848 Here is what the official documentation is saying from Audi for A6/A7 on C7 platform 8 speed triptonic transmission: Initial Fill 8.6L (9.0 qt.). Refill 3.6-4.0L (3.8 qt. - 4.2 qt.) Part# G060162A2. Bonus:( Front Final Drive: Fill 1.0L (1.1 qt), Refill 0.9L (1.0 qt) Part# G052145S2 --- Transfer Case: Fill 1.0L (1.1 qt.), Refill 0.85L (0.9 qt.) Part# G055145A2 --- Rear Final Drive: Fill & Refill are the same: 0.9L (1.0 qt.) Part# G052145S2 . Oh one more: Brake System 1.0L (1.1 qt.) Part# B000750 ...i think that should be enough for now :)
Thank you for these videos, can you tell me what I need to get to have vcds ?
Go to ross-tech.com and buy the software and cable
Did it end up leaking using the original gasket..
No, it's been good, no leaks
@@FelekPL perfect
Same for TDI motor?
Whats the torque spec on the trans pan?
Link in video description
Did I miss it? Why did you not do a full flush? Are you not concerned about reusing much the old fluid?
What do you mean? There is no way to get oil from the transmission itself. Well, there is if you brake it all apart.
you would have to change the oil again in reality being the easiest way. the filter change is what takes the time. the oil can be changed easily in 20mins if you have a ramp or inspection pit. the rest of the oil is caught up in the pump and torque converter.
NEVER flush a transmission. A simple drain and fill is all that needs to be done
after how many km needs to be changed?
50-60k miles
what year is the car you are working
on?
'14
Thank you~
What should the subframe bolts be torqued to 6 back and 2 front?
Idk, I think 110 nm but honestly dont know
Why is it recommended to replace the bolts on the cross frame?
I honestly don't know but they always want you to replace all those big bolts...cross frame, cradle, etc. Maybe so they can make more $. Pretty sure that if you use old ones you'll be just fine
Nice video. Whats your opinion on changing the fluid on 2013 A4 quattro at 80K Miles for the first time?
I think I wouldn't do it any more but that's just my opinion
@@FelekPL Why wouldn't you do it? What was the mileage on your car and was that the first drain and fill?
@@ajarnott62I think it's too late. 43k miles when I did it
Felek what are the negatives if you never did this service? Harder gear changes until the transmission fails?
Hi mate may I know how do u know how much to top up? Is there a mark for u to see?
You top off when the fluid reaches specific temp and you keep pouring until there is small but steady stream coming out of transmission
@@FelekPL is the car supposed to be started when topping it off?
@@JoeMama-uy5dj yes,car needs to be running
Thank you❤️
3.0tdi 313KM? Zf8hp90?
To nie jest diesel (3.0 benzyna z superchargerem) ale skrzynia moze byc ta sama
@@FelekPL chodzi i o skrzynie??
Chodzi o to zeby Polska z Hiszpania w Sobotę wygrala, ale jak beda grali jak ostatnio to moze lepiej olej w skrzyni w tym czasie zmienić;) skrzynia jest 8 biegow tiptronic ... nie wiem dokladnie jak model #
This took half an hour on fast forward, in real time how long did it take to finish?
I believe it was around 4 -5 hrs. I haven't done it ever before though plus recording takes lots of extra time
Telekom how do you know when it’s full?
You keep filling up until it overflows and you get small steady stream from the fill up hole
Czesc. Wymianiales olej w torsenie i dyfie moze? Dzieki
Jeszcze nie,nie moge sie zebrac do tego
Felek Ja mam allroad 3.0tdi z s-tronikiem. To myslisz ze tak samo sie wymienia ten olej jak u Ciebie? Moj ma niby najechane 64 tysie mil i tak sie zastanawiam nad wymiana. O torsenie mysle zeby wymienic bo przy maksymalnym skrecie jak zawracam na przyklad to czuje takie lekkie szumienie czy buczenie z napedu no i podobno to ten torsen tak robi...? Masz jakies doswiadczenie z tym?
@@stefanbatorypolskikrol Podejrzewam ze podobnie, ale s-tronic to inna skrzynia wiec nie wiem dokladnie. Szkoda ze ja nie mam s-tronic.. przydalby sie ;)
Felek a wiesz moze jaki olej idzie do dyfow i torsena? Dzieki
The transfer case (torsen) holds .9 quarts of 75W-90 full synthetic gear oil. Front and rear differentials hold 1 quart of 75W-90 full synthetic gear oil.
Hello felek!! Thanks for your video... can you tell me witch transmission you have please...I have (8hp55a his) quattro and I want do the same... change the oil... but I earded that it's more complicated than you did, also we can have problems later whith the gear box....so what can you tell me??? Can I do the same as you...? Did you have problems whith the gear box??? Thanks again best regards...
It's 8 speed automatic tiptronic transmission. As far as atf change it's always good to do it unless you missed the mark and your car has quite a bit of miles then I wouldn't touch it.
You should watch ua-cam.com/video/o690DovjDAc/v-deo.html this will answer some of your questions
@@FelekPL hello again... thanks for your time...I have Audi A6 3.0bitdi 313hp C7 4G whith 127.000kms and Audi says to not change the oil transmission... it's for life...and the manufacturer of the transmission ZF says the contrary... that i must do it... between 80.000kms and 120.000kms...personaly I would like to do it...but I don't know....thank you and continue to do good and interesting videos...best regards.(I live in Europe)
@@fernandesvieiraruifilipe3736 you are on the higher mileage end... I probably would not do not any more, too late, but that's just my personal opinion.
@@FelekPL sorry to ask...why is to late??? If we change the oil...we put new and better fluid inside the transmission...and will run better and smudly??? I think... thank you again...
What did you remove before you get to the pan?
Bottom cover, brace and transmission mount bracket
Felek is it the same procedures for 2012 A6 ?
If it's 3.0T then yes, should be the same. A6 C7 first came out in 2012 so it should be exactly the same car
@@FelekPL Thank you for your respond. I think the one i have is the 4 cylinder 2.0 liter
@@tek2313Looks like it is the same 8 speed automatic transmission in A6 3.0T and 2.0 so I would imagine that the process is exactly the same.
Hey Felek
How do you lift and put your A6 on jack stands? As far as I can tell the jacking point is the same as the lifting point.
I think it is the same. Here I lifted on lift point and slid ramp under wheel. Previously I lifted next to lift point (more towards rear of the car), far enough to slide in jack stand to where it should be. You should be able to lift on lower control arm too. Again, this is for quick lift to put jack under
Actually, if you lift the car on the rear lift point, it raises whole side and you can slide in jack stand under front lift point
@@FelekPL do you mean the lift points on either side of the car or are there front and rear central lift points?
@@mcs6979 I don't know about central lift points as the whole front underneath is covered by covers. I meant the side lift points. Using rear side lift point you can slide in jack stand under front side lift point.
@@FelekPL great advice. Thank you!
hello... do you have a video showing Audi A6 C7 2014 DSG 7 speed transmission oil change please.
I don't have one but I would imagine it is similar process
@Felek I did the service on mine. 7 Steps S-tronic. It is not similar. I would say maybe a bit easier. You don't remove the pan. There is no filter to change. The gearbox code on mine is 0CK
Can you please do a video of how to change brightness of led drl when headlights are on ?
There are some videos on that out there already
You should watch this to answer some of your questions ua-cam.com/video/o690DovjDAc/v-deo.html
Hello there! What is the reason for Audi a7 acceleration without strength?
There may be many, I can't tell . You need to do diagnostic
Felek Can you give me an email?
Felek Mine is hhfhlx@gmail.com
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