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The bolian tactical officer on the Saratoga always stuck out to me as one of the most interesting minor star trek characters. He was an absolute beast who performed brilliantly in a terrifying situation. Not to mention that without him, Sisko would probably be dead.
What I want to see is a Star Trek series where the captain is an alien, for the whole series. In fact, I want a Star Trek series on a Starfleet vessel where most of the characters are aliens. Like.... the captain is a Bolian, first officer is a Trill, the chief engineer is one of those three-limbed beings, main science officer is an Andorian, maybe whoever is flying the ship is usually a cetacean (not technically an alien but eh), and just for funsies, the doctor is a Cardassian woman. (Maybe Cardassia is on its way to joining the Federation after everything that happened during the Dominion War?) And then too I think it'd be fun to have a Tellarite ship's psychologist (who actually knows how to do the job properly.) I'd even like to see an exocomp that isn't a bad joke. Then there could be cool cameos like in some episodes they rendezvous with a ship full of Horta for some reason or other. (Maybe there's a Horta colony on some planet that's considered too hostile to life for most Federation species?) Alternatively, a Star Trek series where the whole ship is run by dolphins and other cetaceans.
There is a Star Trek book I read years ago about the further investigation of the Jenolan dysonsphere, the science vessel assigned was mainly crewed by Horta starfleet science officers. Can't remember the book's title sadly, sorry.
I agree that that would be a cool idea. The reason I think they never did this is they want the main characters to be relatable, so there always has to be a heavy human presence. But my interpretation of the Bolians has always been that the whole point of having them is that they are psychologically as close to humans as possible, with any significant differences being their appearance. As such, if you as a writer want a non-human captain, pick a Bolian if you want to play on the safe side. All major races are psychologically different. Andorians are too temperamental, Tellarites are cute jerks and Vulcans are unemotional, et cetera. All major alien races are usually psychologically different to appeal to a certain aspect of humanity in the audience. Andorians appeal to our emotional side, Tellarites appeal to me as a Dutch person (we like being direct), Vulcans appeal to our autistic brothers and sisters, but Bolians are basically just those easy going foreign neighbours who you invite to your barbecue. They don't look like you, but they behave like you.
Much like the Gorn, the Bolians were probably never a really fully developed species or culture for the Star Trek Universe. The producers just needed some alien race to stick in an episode here or there, and went with a cheap visual look, filling in information as they went as was convenient. "How should Bolians look?" the special effects make-up artists inquired. "Well, we're working on a budget, so let's keep it cheap. Make'm Blue-colored and just give them a couple of ridges that might be cartilage along the head. Humanoid, of course, so we can just stick them in normal uniforms or clothing without sending the costume department into over-time, which isn't really in the budget at the moment. Damn Unions and their regulations," said the Executive Producers as he turned and walked out the door to his next meeting. I have no proof that this is what happened, but I bet this was basically the conversation.
I would like to see the Gorn further developed. Like the Ferengi, Gorns are intended to be scary. But become more likable over time because of their intelligence and empathy.
My main thought about Bolians is always the weird running gag about Bolians, scat humor, and plumbing issues. I seem to remember at least twice on Voyager there were throwaway lines regarding Bolians and plumbing. edit: I meant to mention I thoroughly enjoyed the video 🤠
Is it fair to make any conclusions about Bolian physical attributes by the episode "Allegiances"? That "Bolian" was an imposter wearing a Bolian suit after all...
I remember reading somewhere that the Bolian’s physiology is SO different, that when admitted to the Federation, it was learned that Federation plumbing had to be heavily fortified if any were on starship. There was some mention of an incident with a Bolian onboard a ship that essentially made it inoperable because of the incompatible plumbing. I’d always imagined that the bifurcation was an evolutionary remnant that allowed their face to split and show some terrifying visage to frighten predators. I STILL think that would be a cool idea and maybe some show runner will run with it,
I think I read somewhere that Bolians and Andorians share some similarities in their biochemistry and are capable of giving each other blood transfusions, for example. I have no idea to what extent the species' origins overlap or share other commonalities, however.
It's a convergent evolution thing so it's likely their blood and other aspects of their physiology is the same if not similar. It's like humans to betazoids or any other humanlike alien. The bolians are just bald antennaless andorians after all
Been a while since we got a mycelial network gif I think Bolians and Trill could be viewed more like a Vassal of the Federation rather then a normal member species ie like the farengi in the Lower Decks episode they negotiated there own contracts when they joined the Federation
@knightspearhead5718 The word Vassal has negative connotations, a polity without any independence. In my Head-canon the Bolians have associate membership of the UFP. Neighbours have issues of shared interest and bilateral agreements are written followed by decades of intertwined diplomatic close-working relationships. Like Norway and the EU or Switzerland and the EU.
@@phelimridley6727 "a person under the protection of a feudal lord to whom he has vowed homage and fealty" Webster. Just replace "Feudal Lord" with "The Federation"
@@knightspearhead5718 They might be vassals. Just using more acceptable language. I'm with Michael Eddington in his criticism of the Federation. "More insidious than the Borg" lol
They are also well known for their centers of higher education. It is also known to be a hotspot for tourism like Rigel. They would settle disputes by wrestling when they were primitive where they had hair. They evolved not to have it because of this. Vector surfing is a popular sport which is basically vertical jetboard surfing.
I hoe you cover the Teenaxi one day. They are neat with them being able to Roll into balls fast and that and their sharp claws can make them an actual threat despite their small size, especially when their is an army of them. Also you should cover some original series aliens like the Melkotians and others. Oh and some next generation aliens.
@@OrangeRiver the Kelvin universe has some pretty interesting aliens and planets. Plus it is connected to the prime universe similar to how the mirror universe. It's ashame we haven't really revisited it.
Fun fact about Bolians! Their bodily secretions are acidic to humans so intimate cross-species pairings are... Complicated. But doable thanks to 24th century science. (Star Trek Memory Alpha.) Thanks, science. Now you too can have blooba without chemical burns!
Based on how much they are depicted as extremely social with the individuals we do see, I bet it was just like they were the annoyingly social species that everyone would shut up by force until the Federation came along and it was like a match made in heaven. "Federation? You actually want to listen to us talk? You aren't going to shoot us if we keep talking? Oh happy day! Sign us up, we're in forever!"
two Bolians pivotal to non-canon lore: Solian Brex from Bridge Commander, engineer officer with veteran commendations for valor by Geordi Laforge, instrumental in developing phased-plasma torpedoes and subspace field stabilization matrices for the Sovereign class ship; and Lyn Zadis from Shield Of Tomorrow, another engineer instrumental in developing cloaking field countermeasures and counter-assimilation tech for Intrepid class ships.
The Bolians have always struck me as one of the more striking and interesting alien designs in Trek. It would be cool if they got some cultural development at some point.
Im curious how you'd feel about Shattered Glass, from Transformers, since you brought TF up. Its a good parody/idea steal from Mirror Mirror, and there's even a spock goatee!
Little does anyone know, the Bolians actually run the whole show secretly from the sidelines. They take jobs as hairdressers to collect intel, and they're in the background on every ship giving subtle nudges to the crew around them to slowly guide starfleet towards Bolian goals.
Regarding Bolian Federation membership: I always considered the Federation, well, federative - especially in the socialist sense. That means all member planets are still autonomous and can have their own foreign policies. Today's nationstate federations, like the US and Germany, are much more centralized, and for sure the Federation's political structure is written widely different by different writers, but that inconsistency doesn't mean in my opinion that Bolians aren't members of the Federation, just that some authors know more about the conceptualization of federations. You have decentralized federations today as well, but mostly associations, cooperatives, labor unions and so on rather than nations.
You forget the most obvious real world analog, the European Union. The European Union is a sui generis organisation comprised of many nation states who have transferred some of their sovereignty to the EU and how much depends wildly on the policy area. In some areas the European Union has sole authority (the customs union) while in others the individual member states have still much autonomy, like foreign policy. I honestly think the EU is a model for future planetary or even interstellar organisations. Not an exact blueprint, but the EU has shown that there is much middle ground between a completely integrated supranational authority and loose nation states.
Well there was a bolian named Chell which played as a main character in a old PlayStation 2 Star Trek Voyager based video game. Even though it has pretty crappy Graphics, I still think it's a very fun first old person shooter. Chell it is a pretty likeable character.✌
6:40 This is one of the reasons why something like pre warp no contact prime directive makes no sense. Say if you have a federation colony world but there's a pre warp civilization 2 light years away that launched a generational ship that will take 50 years to reach the federation colony. What's the federation gonna tell the civilization? Go back home & make warp drive? What if the civilization says no? What then war?
@@OrangeRiver I'm new to you so please excuse what I'm sure is an over asked question. Is the 'orange' about the color scheme of the bridge from TOS ? Basically, I consider myself well versed in the original series but I can't figure where you get the name.... Orange River. Thanks
I'd consider Chell kind of main character. He was one of the only non-main characters from Voyager to appear in the Elite Force game along with the VA.
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I always assumed they are a Federation member. It does make sense though being a Vassal world. I always thought the female's looked sexy, but I'm into bald and blue 😍🤣🤣. Great video dude 👍. P.s. if you show that Misealial ( can't find the f*****g spelling) network clip again...I'm gonna going to have a Transporter " accident" ! 🤣🤣👍 Thanks again Tyler. Stay frosty brother! 🤘😁🖖🇨🇦
And there’s their cousin race, the Booleans, whose relationship seems to always be off or on. Why, if their home world is Bolarus, isn’t their name the Bolarians?
Why should it? We are from Earth. We are not called Earthians. Although I should note that "Aardbewoners" is a legit word in Dutch (translated as inhabitants of Earth). The problem in Star Trek is not that Bolians aren't called Bolarians, the problem is that planet names are related at all to their inhabitants.
In TOS we saw all sorts of human civilizations transplanted by the preservers and other technologically advanced species maybe the Bolians and Talurians were uprooted from their home on Myrmidon prior to their extinction.
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@@OrangeRiver The voyager design video 4 months ago, and yeah i just use my homepage feed, had this account since 2013 so the subscription feed is a bit bloated, i normally get a lot of what i watch on my home feed but i guess some channels fall through the cracks after a while
When dating, you definately don't want to get your Bolians and Tholians mixed up. I mean don't get me wrong, they were hot. Just the wrong kind of hot.
stuff like the Bolians and the Trill make me wonder if the Federation is less like the US and more like the EU, a series of overlapping defense, economic, technological, etc treaties and with some members more integrated than others
I’d imagine any colonies started with out the support of a fleet would be quickly raided by the many different space pirates. So a small generation ship lands, starts a colony then some jerks come by scan the planet and steal all tech. Then they either develop through their own Stone Age into modern tech. Or they die off and space collects grab up anything that remains. I think that’s a pretty good explanation of how races end up on one planet where they aren’t from. We also need to consider it may not have been a slave or worker situation. You are an advanced space race, you scoop up some dumb humanoids and put them on a planet where they do some job for you. Or you’re in a zoo or something.
It makes sense that the Federation would give its members considerable autonomy to operate locally and with nearby systems. You don't see the UN interfering in US border policy.
@@OrangeRiver I would definitely say the EU. I live in the EU and the similarities are huge. The member states of the EU still have much autonomy over their foreign affairs and multiple other policy areas, have their own languages and cultures, but are at the same time so heavily integrated we use the same currency and I can cross the border daily for shopping if I want to (fun fact, people near the Dutch-German border actually do this when certain products are cheaper on the other side).
like the klingons these were taken from bolaster and seeded as colonists to be slaves until war on bolaster caused them to abandon the distant colony which was a pet project of the affulent anyway. which is to say they were simplefolk intended to be cultivated as slaves. furthermore some xeno intervention made it impossible later on and for the longest time they assumed the colonies destruction. which is to say what happened to Bolaster? I have no idea. is it a current thing or a destroyed or abandoned one?
Maybe its time for a bigger, over-arching 'how does the Federation work' video? It seems to me that several groups that already had colonizing space civilizations maintain their own fleets (even if their ships look Federation), like the Vulcans, Andorians, etc., and like the humans maybe have a few members of other species serving aboard their vessels, and they each patrol their own regions of space, so this would make the Federation operate more like ancient Rome with 'semi-autonomous provinces' (a 'republic'), and in the aspect of its military, more like NATO (ships from different 'nations' do joint ops for the greater good). Thus, there could actually be a three-tier system in place: Full members (smaller, single systems would likely join this category), 'allied members', who are Federation *and also* mostly autonomous (which would explain season 1 TNG Klingons, I guess), and actual 'military allies', which would be situational depending on the conflict, and mostly temporary (but does lead to a 'type 2' member eventually, if all goes well). Thus, like NATO members, if the situation isn't dire, the Federation need not get involved in smaller conflicts (refer to the Falkland Islands war between GB and Argentina - NATO stayed out of that because GB didn't need our help). That would explain how groups like the Bolians have their own, private struggles - everyone doesn't need to be involved in everything. Great video as usual.
Nah, it's a reference to the fact that my family has always been big fans of University of Tennessee football (whose colors are orange and white) and I live next to a river 😎
THG does *sort of* have a Bolian main character in the form of Mot, but he is only in a small number of episodes through season 5 and 6, with subsequent Barbers being other characters passed off as the same character. Bit of a wasted potential and idea imo, I mean Mot got cut from an episode, which suggests to me there was conflict within the studio over the character. Which is a shame. A nod to him in Picard suggests that by 3999 he has a successful barber business post his time on the Enterprise D.
i feel like Bolians would be a nice addition to Star Trek Legacy. They are a polymanogamus species, presumably bisexual though not necessarily. they are at least a laid back, outspoken, sexually liberal species, and it feels like there are many relevant story possibilities there. Every Star Trek has an alien character, and i want the next one to be bolian. Their time is due.
They are basically progressive humans. I think that if you want an alien as a main character for the purpose of having an alien on the bridge you shouldn't pick a Bolian. By all means pick one, but you can basically interchange any extravert human character for a Bolian. That being said, I don't know how this is interpreted across the world. I am from the Netherlands, and Bolians are basically Dutchmen on a good day. Maybe American culture is different in that aspect.
@@kerngezond6953 LOL Dutchmen. Usually the alien race is used as a vehicle to tell progressive ideas so that is why I think they should use Bolians. It might actually make people pay attention more than using a regular old Dutchman on a good day. I'm not American either, but I am American adjacent.
Sometimes I feel like typical personalities for a whole species come from a one off appearance. That barber character always seemed like a foil for Worf like most annoying characters in TNG.
If you're referring in-universe to their contributions to the Federation, presumably their industries, scientific research apparatus, culture, and markets.
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As far as I am concerned, these guys are geniuses...
The bolian tactical officer on the Saratoga always stuck out to me as one of the most interesting minor star trek characters. He was an absolute beast who performed brilliantly in a terrifying situation. Not to mention that without him, Sisko would probably be dead.
I’d imagine after the Dominion War, he’d hang out in bars and tell stories of how he saved The Sisko xD
@@slavsquatsuperstar seriously, if I were him I'd be letting everybody know lol
What I want to see is a Star Trek series where the captain is an alien, for the whole series. In fact, I want a Star Trek series on a Starfleet vessel where most of the characters are aliens. Like.... the captain is a Bolian, first officer is a Trill, the chief engineer is one of those three-limbed beings, main science officer is an Andorian, maybe whoever is flying the ship is usually a cetacean (not technically an alien but eh), and just for funsies, the doctor is a Cardassian woman. (Maybe Cardassia is on its way to joining the Federation after everything that happened during the Dominion War?) And then too I think it'd be fun to have a Tellarite ship's psychologist (who actually knows how to do the job properly.) I'd even like to see an exocomp that isn't a bad joke.
Then there could be cool cameos like in some episodes they rendezvous with a ship full of Horta for some reason or other. (Maybe there's a Horta colony on some planet that's considered too hostile to life for most Federation species?)
Alternatively, a Star Trek series where the whole ship is run by dolphins and other cetaceans.
Closest thing to that is Star Trek: Prodigy. The whole crew are non-human.
Andorian Tactical Officer and Trill Captain >
There is a Star Trek book I read years ago about the further investigation of the Jenolan dysonsphere, the science vessel assigned was mainly crewed by Horta starfleet science officers.
Can't remember the book's title sadly, sorry.
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Of all aliens; _horta!?_ What a crew!
I agree that that would be a cool idea. The reason I think they never did this is they want the main characters to be relatable, so there always has to be a heavy human presence. But my interpretation of the Bolians has always been that the whole point of having them is that they are psychologically as close to humans as possible, with any significant differences being their appearance. As such, if you as a writer want a non-human captain, pick a Bolian if you want to play on the safe side. All major races are psychologically different. Andorians are too temperamental, Tellarites are cute jerks and Vulcans are unemotional, et cetera. All major alien races are usually psychologically different to appeal to a certain aspect of humanity in the audience. Andorians appeal to our emotional side, Tellarites appeal to me as a Dutch person (we like being direct), Vulcans appeal to our autistic brothers and sisters, but Bolians are basically just those easy going foreign neighbours who you invite to your barbecue. They don't look like you, but they behave like you.
Much like the Gorn, the Bolians were probably never a really fully developed species or culture for the Star Trek Universe. The producers just needed some alien race to stick in an episode here or there, and went with a cheap visual look, filling in information as they went as was convenient.
"How should Bolians look?" the special effects make-up artists inquired.
"Well, we're working on a budget, so let's keep it cheap. Make'm Blue-colored and just give them a couple of ridges that might be cartilage along the head. Humanoid, of course, so we can just stick them in normal uniforms or clothing without sending the costume department into over-time, which isn't really in the budget at the moment. Damn Unions and their regulations," said the Executive Producers as he turned and walked out the door to his next meeting.
I have no proof that this is what happened, but I bet this was basically the conversation.
Classic sci-fi moment
I prefer using amputee actresses and actors in your scenario to increase diversifying aliens
Ah. You have THAT fetish. @@ugiswrong
I would like to see the Gorn further developed. Like the Ferengi, Gorns are intended to be scary. But become more likable over time because of their intelligence and empathy.
I heard they were TNG's replacement for Andorians because Roddenberry didn't want TOS aliens in TNG
My main thought about Bolians is always the weird running gag about Bolians, scat humor, and plumbing issues.
I seem to remember at least twice on Voyager there were throwaway lines regarding Bolians and plumbing.
edit: I meant to mention I thoroughly enjoyed the video 🤠
Is it fair to make any conclusions about Bolian physical attributes by the episode "Allegiances"? That "Bolian" was an imposter wearing a Bolian suit after all...
We can assume they did an accurate job building the Bolian meat suit. Why? They went above and beyond in building the faux Picard.
Picard didn't question their appearance at all
I remember reading somewhere that the Bolian’s physiology is SO different, that when admitted to the Federation, it was learned that Federation plumbing had to be heavily fortified if any were on starship. There was some mention of an incident with a Bolian onboard a ship that essentially made it inoperable because of the incompatible plumbing.
I’d always imagined that the bifurcation was an evolutionary remnant that allowed their face to split and show some terrifying visage to frighten predators. I STILL think that would be a cool idea and maybe some show runner will run with it,
They have to have separate bathrooms just for them.
Why can't everyone be like coneheads
Dwight Eisenhower moonlighting as Min Zife is the best.
I was _extremely_ dissapointed we didn't get a Mr. Mott cameo in Picard season 3.
That would be a BAD idea! They killed off everyone they brought back! Mr.Mott deserves to live! 🤣🤣. 🖖😁🤘🇨🇦
I absolutely died at the BSG joke. Great content!
I never noticed how frequently they appear, fascinating! Nice way to end the workweek!!
Thanks Nathan!
Ditto!
I think I read somewhere that Bolians and Andorians share some similarities in their biochemistry and are capable of giving each other blood transfusions, for example. I have no idea to what extent the species' origins overlap or share other commonalities, however.
It's probably like humans and bajorins seeming so similar.
It's a convergent evolution thing so it's likely their blood and other aspects of their physiology is the same if not similar. It's like humans to betazoids or any other humanlike alien. The bolians are just bald antennaless andorians after all
I like to think Bolians with hair is like humans with albinism. Rare.
Been a while since we got a mycelial network gif
I think Bolians and Trill could be viewed more like a Vassal of the Federation rather then a normal member species ie like the farengi in the Lower Decks episode they negotiated there own contracts when they joined the Federation
Mycelial Network☝️
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The word Vassal has negative connotations, a polity without any independence.
In my Head-canon the Bolians have associate membership of the UFP. Neighbours have issues of shared interest and bilateral agreements are written followed by decades of intertwined diplomatic close-working relationships.
Like Norway and the EU or Switzerland and the EU.
@@phelimridley6727 Or like the Mexican Policia to the El Chapo's Cartel.
@@phelimridley6727 "a person under the protection of a feudal lord to whom he has vowed homage and fealty" Webster. Just replace "Feudal Lord" with "The Federation"
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They might be vassals. Just using more acceptable language.
I'm with Michael Eddington in his criticism of the Federation. "More insidious than the Borg" lol
They are also well known for their centers of higher education. It is also known to be a hotspot for tourism like Rigel. They would settle disputes by wrestling when they were primitive where they had hair. They evolved not to have it because of this. Vector surfing is a popular sport which is basically vertical jetboard surfing.
The one thing I know for sure is that Bolian is fun to say.
Mycelium, it's a series of tubes.
And sometimes those tubes get clogged.
It's not something that you just dump something on; it's not a big truck...
Yo I died when the dude showed a alien when he said “vape god”
Did you know that there are 3 habitable planets in the Bolian's' home system? A-Bola, C-Bola, and E-Bola.
The Bolians wish they were a conquering-warrior race like the Packleds or Tribbles.
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I'm dying at Min Zife being a photoshopped Ike Eisenhower
Oh sweet. Been looking forward to this since your post the other day. Good content and much love fam.
I always thought that the character of Michael Addington should’ve been the Bolin Lieutenant from the pilot of DS9 first episode.
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Wow, thanks!
I hoe you cover the Teenaxi one day. They are neat with them being able to Roll into balls fast and that and their sharp claws can make them an actual threat despite their small size, especially when their is an army of them. Also you should cover some original series aliens like the Melkotians and others. Oh and some next generation aliens.
Aw man, yeah a video about the Kelvin timeline aliens overall would be fun!
@@OrangeRiver the Kelvin universe has some pretty interesting aliens and planets. Plus it is connected to the prime universe similar to how the mirror universe. It's ashame we haven't really revisited it.
Fun fact about Bolians!
Their bodily secretions are acidic to humans so intimate cross-species pairings are... Complicated. But doable thanks to 24th century science. (Star Trek Memory Alpha.) Thanks, science. Now you too can have blooba without chemical burns!
...I literally talk about this in the video lol
Based on how much they are depicted as extremely social with the individuals we do see, I bet it was just like they were the annoyingly social species that everyone would shut up by force until the Federation came along and it was like a match made in heaven. "Federation? You actually want to listen to us talk? You aren't going to shoot us if we keep talking? Oh happy day! Sign us up, we're in forever!"
There must be a shared ancestor between Bolians and Humans. Min Zife looks like a blue Dwight D Eisenhower haha.
DUDE I THOUGHT I WAS GOING INSANE
I like Ike!
Min Zife looks like Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Of course Bolians could be good barbers. It is harder to cut your own hair than other people's hair
To be honest, I've always expected their face to be able to open.
two Bolians pivotal to non-canon lore: Solian Brex from Bridge Commander, engineer officer with veteran commendations for valor by Geordi Laforge, instrumental in developing phased-plasma torpedoes and subspace field stabilization matrices for the Sovereign class ship; and Lyn Zadis from Shield Of Tomorrow, another engineer instrumental in developing cloaking field countermeasures and counter-assimilation tech for Intrepid class ships.
The Bolians have always struck me as one of the more striking and interesting alien designs in Trek. It would be cool if they got some cultural development at some point.
Im curious how you'd feel about Shattered Glass, from Transformers, since you brought TF up. Its a good parody/idea steal from Mirror Mirror, and there's even a spock goatee!
Little does anyone know, the Bolians actually run the whole show secretly from the sidelines. They take jobs as hairdressers to collect intel, and they're in the background on every ship giving subtle nudges to the crew around them to slowly guide starfleet towards Bolian goals.
I've seen worse conspiracy theories.
Regarding Bolian Federation membership: I always considered the Federation, well, federative - especially in the socialist sense. That means all member planets are still autonomous and can have their own foreign policies. Today's nationstate federations, like the US and Germany, are much more centralized, and for sure the Federation's political structure is written widely different by different writers, but that inconsistency doesn't mean in my opinion that Bolians aren't members of the Federation, just that some authors know more about the conceptualization of federations. You have decentralized federations today as well, but mostly associations, cooperatives, labor unions and so on rather than nations.
You forget the most obvious real world analog, the European Union. The European Union is a sui generis organisation comprised of many nation states who have transferred some of their sovereignty to the EU and how much depends wildly on the policy area. In some areas the European Union has sole authority (the customs union) while in others the individual member states have still much autonomy, like foreign policy. I honestly think the EU is a model for future planetary or even interstellar organisations. Not an exact blueprint, but the EU has shown that there is much middle ground between a completely integrated supranational authority and loose nation states.
Fair enough! It is indeed close to a federation, all but in name.@@kerngezond6953
It is a little known fact that Bolians give birth through their big toes.
i wish that fact was known even littler so that you didn’t tell me that just now
@@tonoornottono Be careful now.. there are a multitude of other little known facts just waiting to pounce. 🙂
Well there was a bolian named Chell which played as a main character in a old PlayStation 2 Star Trek Voyager based video game. Even though it has pretty crappy Graphics, I still think it's a very fun first old person shooter. Chell it is a pretty likeable character.✌
The Bolians were apparently named after Director Cliff Bole. "have you had sexual relations with a Bolian?" lol
LOL... at 8:48, Min Zife looks like Gen/President Eisenhower!
6:40 This is one of the reasons why something like pre warp no contact prime directive makes no sense. Say if you have a federation colony world but there's a pre warp civilization 2 light years away that launched a generational ship that will take 50 years to reach the federation colony. What's the federation gonna tell the civilization? Go back home & make warp drive? What if the civilization says no? What then war?
Min Zife is Ike Eisenhower. Great channel.
The most obvious photoshop ever, yep lmao
@@OrangeRiver I'm new to you so please excuse what I'm sure is an over asked question. Is the 'orange' about the color scheme of the bridge from TOS ? Basically, I consider myself well versed in the original series but I can't figure where you get the name.... Orange River. Thanks
Lol, has nothing to do with Star Trek, just a family thing haha
I love Mott the Barber from Next Generation.
your merch plug makes me smile - live long and prosper (hopefully by way of many merch sales)
Thank you!
Fascinating. 😐🤨🖖
4:05 There's a saying in Germany "Never trust a slim cook nor a bald hairdresser."
I'd consider Chell kind of main character.
He was one of the only non-main characters from Voyager to appear in the Elite Force game along with the VA.
Awesome video Tyler! I dig the new look in the background also.🖖
Thanks Odari!!
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and form on this format and subject matter provided on the Bolians and their species according to their genetics and culture of their life styles and so forth and so on indeed!,👌.
I always assumed they are a Federation member. It does make sense though being a Vassal world. I always thought the female's looked sexy, but I'm into bald and blue 😍🤣🤣. Great video dude 👍. P.s. if you show that Misealial ( can't find the f*****g spelling) network clip again...I'm gonna going to have a Transporter " accident" ! 🤣🤣👍 Thanks again Tyler. Stay frosty brother! 🤘😁🖖🇨🇦
Nice Galactica reference 😁
And there’s their cousin race, the Booleans, whose relationship seems to always be off or on.
Why, if their home world is Bolarus, isn’t their name the Bolarians?
Why should it? We are from Earth. We are not called Earthians. Although I should note that "Aardbewoners" is a legit word in Dutch (translated as inhabitants of Earth). The problem in Star Trek is not that Bolians aren't called Bolarians, the problem is that planet names are related at all to their inhabitants.
In TOS we saw all sorts of human civilizations transplanted by the preservers and other technologically advanced species maybe the Bolians and Talurians were uprooted from their home on Myrmidon prior to their extinction.
A look at the transformers universe would be awesome
bro i thought you just hadn't uploaded in a while, the algorithm done you dirty bro wtf
😭😭😭 How long since you've seen a video of mine? Also, do you rely on the Recommendations on your homepage or actually go to the subscriptions tab? If the former, that's a big mistake lol
@@OrangeRiver The voyager design video 4 months ago, and yeah i just use my homepage feed, had this account since 2013 so the subscription feed is a bit bloated, i normally get a lot of what i watch on my home feed but i guess some channels fall through the cracks after a while
@@OrangeRiver at least i have a decent amount of your videos to binge now xD
I've also had my account since 2013 and have had to unsub from a lot of channels to clean up my own sub feed, yeah. Enjoy the binge!
Don't think I didn't notice Dwight D. Eisenhower painted blue!
Lol, I'm not sure who came up with that idea
Mr. Mott! ...all 3 of them lolz
The Bolians are pretty cool, but I was surprised you didn't mention the most famous Bolian, Ed.
*Min Zife* also known as *PRESIDENT "IKE" EINENHAUER* Nice bit of PHotoshopping these
When dating, you definately don't want to get your Bolians and Tholians mixed up.
I mean don't get me wrong, they were hot. Just the wrong kind of hot.
Bolians make the best donuts in the whole god damned galaxy.
stuff like the Bolians and the Trill make me wonder if the Federation is less like the US and more like the EU, a series of overlapping defense, economic, technological, etc treaties and with some members more integrated than others
It is basically a space EU with easier Brexit policies. It seems in both alpha and beta canon a world can just leave as easy as flipping a switch.
i wish we saw more non-human ships in the Federation
Bolians forever
I’d enjoy a crossover episode placing Bolians and Mythrol origins on the same planet.
all i remember is that they supposedly mess up the bathrooms lol
I’d imagine any colonies started with out the support of a fleet would be quickly raided by the many different space pirates. So a small generation ship lands, starts a colony then some jerks come by scan the planet and steal all tech. Then they either develop through their own Stone Age into modern tech. Or they die off and space collects grab up anything that remains. I think that’s a pretty good explanation of how races end up on one planet where they aren’t from. We also need to consider it may not have been a slave or worker situation. You are an advanced space race, you scoop up some dumb humanoids and put them on a planet where they do some job for you. Or you’re in a zoo or something.
Nice bit of classic O.R. content 👍
I bet theres a Lower Decks episode called 'The Bolian Web'... If not there probably will be 😅
Lol
It makes sense that the Federation would give its members considerable autonomy to operate locally and with nearby systems.
You don't see the UN interfering in US border policy.
True, the Federation isn't exactly like the United States, more like the EU or UN
@@OrangeRiver I would definitely say the EU. I live in the EU and the similarities are huge. The member states of the EU still have much autonomy over their foreign affairs and multiple other policy areas, have their own languages and cultures, but are at the same time so heavily integrated we use the same currency and I can cross the border daily for shopping if I want to (fun fact, people near the Dutch-German border actually do this when certain products are cheaper on the other side).
lol Thick Tenddy in the background
I think there economy is mostly leisure and service based (banking,insurance etc)
Here's a question, why is Tendi so thicc in here statue form behind you? You've been feeding her too much.
Love your vids, always fascinating to this Trek nerd.
This just makes me think of something... I'M BLUE LADLAADDADADDAADDADADAADAA.
like the klingons these were taken from bolaster and seeded as colonists to be slaves until war on bolaster caused them to abandon the distant colony which was a pet project of the affulent anyway. which is to say they were simplefolk intended to be cultivated as slaves. furthermore some xeno intervention made it impossible later on and for the longest time they assumed the colonies destruction. which is to say what happened to Bolaster? I have no idea. is it a current thing or a destroyed or abandoned one?
Maybe its time for a bigger, over-arching 'how does the Federation work' video? It seems to me that several groups that already had colonizing space civilizations maintain their own fleets (even if their ships look Federation), like the Vulcans, Andorians, etc., and like the humans maybe have a few members of other species serving aboard their vessels, and they each patrol their own regions of space, so this would make the Federation operate more like ancient Rome with 'semi-autonomous provinces' (a 'republic'), and in the aspect of its military, more like NATO (ships from different 'nations' do joint ops for the greater good). Thus, there could actually be a three-tier system in place: Full members (smaller, single systems would likely join this category), 'allied members', who are Federation *and also* mostly autonomous (which would explain season 1 TNG Klingons, I guess), and actual 'military allies', which would be situational depending on the conflict, and mostly temporary (but does lead to a 'type 2' member eventually, if all goes well). Thus, like NATO members, if the situation isn't dire, the Federation need not get involved in smaller conflicts (refer to the Falkland Islands war between GB and Argentina - NATO stayed out of that because GB didn't need our help). That would explain how groups like the Bolians have their own, private struggles - everyone doesn't need to be involved in everything. Great video as usual.
Ive always wondered why you called your channel OrangeRiver? Is there one in the U.S?
Nah, it's a reference to the fact that my family has always been big fans of University of Tennessee football (whose colors are orange and white) and I live next to a river 😎
@@OrangeRiver And here I was, hoping there would be a Dutch connection somehow.
Very interesting. Great video, thank you.
Thank you!
What figurine is that on the right? It looks like Tendi!
Yes ma'am 😎 Custom sculpted & painted statue by a super-fan of the channel
@@OrangeRiverI am massively jealous
It's not a good video until you jump to your clip 'the mycelial network!'
THG does *sort of* have a Bolian main character in the form of Mot, but he is only in a small number of episodes through season 5 and 6, with subsequent Barbers being other characters passed off as the same character. Bit of a wasted potential and idea imo, I mean Mot got cut from an episode, which suggests to me there was conflict within the studio over the character. Which is a shame. A nod to him in Picard suggests that by 3999 he has a successful barber business post his time on the Enterprise D.
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT (tendi)
That was an entertaining store ad. Well done.
Maybe the males are so intrigued by hair. And they like to live vicariously through the client.
Why _just_ males? Because the small sample size of bolian barbers were men?
perch the merch ? 🐟
I think bullion is a good idea.
Everything you need to know about the Bolians:
1) nothing
*Ends Video*
Lol
i feel like Bolians would be a nice addition to Star Trek Legacy. They are a polymanogamus species, presumably bisexual though not necessarily. they are at least a laid back, outspoken, sexually liberal species, and it feels like there are many relevant story possibilities there. Every Star Trek has an alien character, and i want the next one to be bolian. Their time is due.
They are basically progressive humans. I think that if you want an alien as a main character for the purpose of having an alien on the bridge you shouldn't pick a Bolian. By all means pick one, but you can basically interchange any extravert human character for a Bolian. That being said, I don't know how this is interpreted across the world. I am from the Netherlands, and Bolians are basically Dutchmen on a good day. Maybe American culture is different in that aspect.
@@kerngezond6953 LOL Dutchmen. Usually the alien race is used as a vehicle to tell progressive ideas so that is why I think they should use Bolians. It might actually make people pay attention more than using a regular old Dutchman on a good day. I'm not American either, but I am American adjacent.
Have you taken into account material from Star Trek: Adventures?
I usually don't even really pay much attention to RPGs, although I know a lot of people enjoy them.
Commenting to feed the algorithm 🙃
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To be fair, we don’t nothing about the name of Orange River come from.
But WHAT IS BOLIAN STYLE TOMATO SOUP?!
Sometimes I feel like typical personalities for a whole species come from a one off appearance. That barber character always seemed like a foil for Worf like most annoying characters in TNG.
What did they ever bring to the table
If you're referring in-universe to their contributions to the Federation, presumably their industries, scientific research apparatus, culture, and markets.
Bolians are cool! Before Enterprise rehabilitated the Androrians, the Bolians were my favorite blue skinned Trek aliens
THE MYCILLIAN NETWORK 😂!
That's a running joke I have with a friend about being a useless blue alien. Lol Finally, others have caught on.😂
Hey guys, Gotcha here.
Someone tell me I don’t need Tendi merch. Or tell me I do.
You do
okay i did@@OrangeRiver
Ayyy
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