Hello Gord, Something 40+ years of "field testing" proves - precious metals WORK! I've been a life long time user of these amazing Canadian & American treasures, and little doubt remains it is the wobble combined with the REFLECTIVE UV qualities of the precious metals used which are so critical to the efficiency of the spoons. It dates back to 1867 and a jewelry maker Scott Sutton who to our good fortune also LOVED to fish. Being only a few miles from Canandaigua Lake of the Fingers Lakes In upstate New York, he had easy access to some wonderful fishing for Lake Trout and White Fish. TRUE Silver spoons - The key to Sutton's productivity was the thin brass shim stock blank he used as a base, as it gave good strength and also took the silver or silver gold plating very evenly - also lending itself to the amazing finishes and durability. Can you tell these are special to me? It's scary how well they catch a wide variety of fish! Well I'm hoping the young upstarts at Williams will fill my void, because as with anything dragged behind a boat long enough, sadly not everything is always recovered - PLUS fish seem to LOVE jewelry!!! Best Wishes to You and The Williams Company - Two More Greats in Fishing!
It's funny, we just ran the whitefish spoons as flashers last week for staging great lakes chinook. Followed by a 4-5 inch swimbait we did 35 fish in 2 hours. Thought we were onto something but you're always ahead of the game gord!
Hi Dmitry - just remove the treble and hook it up as a dodger with the wide end forward and narrow end at the back. I like to experiment sometimes, though, and reverse it, just to see. I also experiment with leader length - closer to the spoon, say 2 - 3 feet and you get a little more action. Put it a bit further back (4 - 6 feet) and you get a little less. Just don't go too long as the spoon will be at the tip of your rod and you can't reel in any more line to net the fish. 😅
@@dmitryblum3700 Usually a cut plug herring or anchovy in a baithead for lake trout and salmon. For pike, I replace the treble hook with a single hook on which I have threaded on a 5 inch white twister tail.
There really is something special about the Whitefish. I’ve watched my father throw one, dressed just as Gord has it here, and suddenly coax life out of weedbeds that had appeared lifeless when cast with other lures. It’s not as simple to fish as a Dardevle or a Cleo, but in the right situation, that bait is something different. No joke, I’ve seen it. Great trolling spoon, great casting spoon in the right hands.
the smaller Williams Whitefish works really well for walleye , that is if you can keep the smallmouth bass of the hook. Blue/Yellow New Wrinkle did well at Adolphus Reach especially considering we went in Mid June when all the bigger eyes have fled.
I personally think 5/0 will be too big. One rule of thumb I use is to compare the siwash hook to the trebles on the spoon and use a Hook the same size as 1 of the 3 treble hooks or go up one size. I usually go one size bigger than the trebles. The thing with using a 5/0 is that medium to small lake trout can get deeeply hooked and you can take out an eye or cause severe damage. I would say 1/0 to 3/0 should be good for 3.5-6 inch spoons.
@@jpi201 I use a 3/0 single on the 50 and 60 size Wablers, with a 3" Twister and they run true. Its all about balancing the drag... too much and you kill the action, too little and the spoon will spin and twist your line. On a 6" Whitefish I'd start with at least a 5/0 single, if not bigger. In my experience, a lure that big is rarely taken deep since even large fish will strike across the body rather than inhale it.
Hello Gord,
Something 40+ years of "field testing" proves - precious metals WORK! I've been a life long time user of these amazing Canadian & American treasures, and little doubt remains it is the wobble combined with the REFLECTIVE UV qualities of the precious metals used which are so critical to the efficiency of the spoons.
It dates back to 1867 and a jewelry maker Scott Sutton who to our good fortune also LOVED to fish. Being only a few miles from Canandaigua Lake of the Fingers Lakes In upstate New York, he had easy access to some wonderful fishing for Lake Trout and White Fish.
TRUE Silver spoons - The key to Sutton's productivity was the thin brass shim stock blank he used as a base, as it gave good strength and also took the silver or silver gold plating very evenly - also lending itself to the amazing finishes and durability. Can you tell these are special to me? It's scary how well they catch a wide variety of fish!
Well I'm hoping the young upstarts at Williams will fill my void, because as with anything dragged behind a boat long enough, sadly not everything is always recovered - PLUS fish seem to LOVE jewelry!!!
Best Wishes to You and The Williams Company - Two More Greats in Fishing!
Thank you for the great advice 😀
It's funny, we just ran the whitefish spoons as flashers last week for staging great lakes chinook. Followed by a 4-5 inch swimbait we did 35 fish in 2 hours. Thought we were onto something but you're always ahead of the game gord!
Matt Morrow May I ask what type of swim bait?
When you use the spoon like a dodger, which one side go forward (wide one or arrow) and how long was the leader between the spoon and the bait?
Hi Dmitry - just remove the treble and hook it up as a dodger with the wide end forward and narrow end at the back. I like to experiment sometimes, though, and reverse it, just to see. I also experiment with leader length - closer to the spoon, say 2 - 3 feet and you get a little more action. Put it a bit further back (4 - 6 feet) and you get a little less. Just don't go too long as the spoon will be at the tip of your rod and you can't reel in any more line to net the fish. 😅
Thank you for quick response.
One more question.
Mostly what kind of bait do you usually use?
@@dmitryblum3700 Usually a cut plug herring or anchovy in a baithead for lake trout and salmon. For pike, I replace the treble hook with a single hook on which I have threaded on a 5 inch white twister tail.
Thanks a lot
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never disrespect the Doc like that. He's giving real pointers from real experiences.
There really is something special about the Whitefish. I’ve watched my father throw one, dressed just as Gord has it here, and suddenly coax life out of weedbeds that had appeared lifeless when cast with other lures.
It’s not as simple to fish as a Dardevle or a Cleo, but in the right situation, that bait is something different. No joke, I’ve seen it. Great trolling spoon, great casting spoon in the right hands.
Nice job!
I notice he has the hook on the thick end of the spoon. But it comes on the thin end. Is there a reason for swapping location of hooks?
Yes, switching the hook and the line tie subtly changes the action of the spoon. Sometimes you'll see the fish show a preference.
what size hook
the smaller Williams Whitefish works really well for walleye , that is if you can keep the smallmouth bass of the hook. Blue/Yellow New Wrinkle did well at Adolphus Reach especially considering we went in Mid June when all the bigger eyes have fled.
Hi Gord,
Thank you for another informative video! Would you use this tricked out Williams Whitefish for ice fishing as well and, if so, which size?
Absolutely - I usually scale down size-wise in the winter when often the smallest Whitefish produce the best action.
What size siwash hook do you use, Gord?
i wondered the same thing. one site says for 5 to 6 inch spoons, use a 5/0 hook
I personally think 5/0 will be too big. One rule of thumb I use is to compare the siwash hook to the trebles on the spoon and use a Hook the same size as 1 of the 3 treble hooks or go up one size. I usually go one size bigger than the trebles. The thing with using a 5/0 is that medium to small lake trout can get deeeply hooked and you can take out an eye or cause severe damage. I would say 1/0 to 3/0 should be good for 3.5-6 inch spoons.
@@jpi201 I use a 3/0 single on the 50 and 60 size Wablers, with a 3" Twister and they run true. Its all about balancing the drag... too much and you kill the action, too little and the spoon will spin and twist your line. On a 6" Whitefish I'd start with at least a 5/0 single, if not bigger. In my experience, a lure that big is rarely taken deep since even large fish will strike across the body rather than inhale it.
Hey Gord. Thanks for the tips, helped me and my Dad catch a few late fall northerns. Is it just me or is the audio no longer working on this video?
Thanks Allan - the audio is working fine on my end.
damn i wished i found this 2 weeks ago.