I might be blind, but there wasn't a "Vs the world" segment, just the four replays. The link brought me to Season 3 of guessing, not Season 4. Good episode, I managed 6 points =)
Hmm, took me 3 messages to figure this out, it looks like it's in a separate video, I spent far too long trying to guess from a 10 second clip. Wood 2 ability to follow instructions by me.
WOO WE'RE BACK BABY! I will say that I actually quite like having Harstem vs the World in the description/comments, it increases the replay value for these videos after the season is over. I do wish that there was something either in the title or the thumbnail to make it distinctly Rank Roulette, because I don't watch every Harstem video, but I do really like IDOIS, Rank Roulette, and Who Wants to be a Grandmaster.
I love this series! Quick suggestion: Can you tag the series name in your video titles? ex: Is This SILVER OR MASTERS?? - Rank Roulette This makes it much easier to watch my favorite series of your videos, and might help others too :)
Gold 1 (2) Gold 3 (2) Diamond 3 (0) Platinum 2 (3) - put me in the finals captain Lowko's gotta remember that silver/gold leaguers (like me) know that spellcasters exist but either don't know exactly what they do or we mess up the hotkeys, don't know how many times I've used blinding cloud on a group of vikings
How does the scoring work? I kinda understand but the last round confused me. They were both off by 2 ranks but Lowko got 3pts and Harstem got 5. Was it because he guessed a different division?
Maybe it's an idea to incorporate the difficulty of the episode somehow? You could use Harstem's score as a baseline average for the episode. So for example Harstem scores 13 points on Episode 1 and 8 on Episode 2. You can add a (small) modifier of half the difference, say 2 points, to the guest in Episode 2. It'd also incentivize guests to try and gaslight Harstem which could make for hilarious content.
I want score relative to Harstem to be the score they get for the playoffs. Here it would be a -1. Harstem sets the difficulty baseline making his guesses relevant, its a battle to see who beats the captain the hardest
As an Indonesian, finding Kue Lapis or Spekkoek in rank roullette was not something i'd ever expected to see LOL I never knew they were a thing in the netherlands too.
14 points today. Slightly behind both players. . . . R1: D1, 6 points. I call this a calibration game. I saw a lot of battles, a lot of decisions being made, and I was way off. R2: S2, 2 points. I feel this makes up for R1. I was thinking bronze until it went late game and they actually had a lot of bases. R3: D2, 2 points. Harstem guessed the same as me, he should be proud. (Jk, I'm proud I guessed the same as him). R4: M3, 4 points. Split the middle between Harstem and Lowko, thinking pretty much the same things they were. Hamster! Welcome back! I love this series, and I love the work you put into it. Harstem, I love how much content you put out for the community, RR was my favorite series until you came out with Who Wants To Be A GM and Changeling, but this is still a top 3 series.
Nice to see the roulette back! I've had G1, G3, D2, and M3 haha, I have an easier time with the games around my level and missed the last one a bit more. :D
I still think the scoring for playoffs should be based on relative score to Harstem's score. This would make Harstem's guesses actually matter (in this format they do not) and it would balance out "hard episodes" vs "easy episodes" because Harstem would be setting a difficulty baseline with his score
Hartsem is kind of like the pace car, so in addtion to their own score, they should add or subract what they win or lose to harstem by. So getting 15 points in a match where harstem gets 25 points, I would conclude it was an extremely tough set of replays and getting 15 points is a very good score.
The ZvZ at the end seemed to have a few occasions where you could see a player with fewer mutas deciding to stay and fight even though they had easy escapes which to me was a sign of being not great. Though, in game 2 I was impressed by the timely marine block on the zerglings running in right after the proxy hatch, so maybe single clips are not a good indicator of anything! :D
yeah I assume the marine block was by accident? Every other big battle, the terran's army didn't even move. Gold and plat players usually attempt to kite even if it's done very badly. This type of "battle watching" micro is very silver and below.
@@Name-ru1kt I don't think upgrades are a tell for leagues at all. There's so many cheesers in diamond that forget upgrades even when the game transitions. The tell for me was the terran's micro. In all the big battles after surviving the proxy hatch, his units didn't even move at all. Gold and plat usually at least attempt to micro even if it's very badly. This 0 apm micro and just watching the battle is very silver and below.
I felt like that zerg player was just experimenting and making random terrible comps. I'm surprised you faced a lot of players exactly like him. The zerg player had better than silver level macro mechanics with the creep spread and easily maxing out without floating many resources. He probably could be gold/plat if he just built normal comps instead of infestor muta. Weird archetype of player imo.
@@panner11 I felt the exact vibe you get in the league. I don't know why. It's either the lack of commitment or the lackluster macro that gives it away. To grandmasters, every silver bronze and gold are basically the same. To a platinum guy like me, 2200 and 2400 zergs are wildly different
Awesome with Rank Roulette again! Is it me, or do we see a lot less from the games? Do the contestants see more than we do in the edited version? Maybe I just have gotten used to Harambo, where we see a lot more. I wouldn't mind to see more if the contestants do that as well :)
Yeah I think they were too impressed by the unit comps. Unit comps aren't that trustworthy to tell the rank. Anyone who watches a lot of pro games, but doesn't play much is capable of making very decent/standard comps. And being able to macro decently with good units comps is enough to bring you to diamond by itself. But the execution was terrible, every fight was a just a full commit with no retreat when the tide turned even when retreating would be easy and no pressing the advantage. There was zero chance it was masters.
Im gonna suggest that rather than the playoffs be full of players that only had low points, that you also give someone negative points for beating harstem. So lowko would get 11 points here because he beat harstem by 1, and if he had won by 3 he woulda had 9. That corrects for some episodes being harder than others, and is also some proper good Dutch accounting for Hamster to do 😉 (If Harstem wins, I suggest you don’t add points to anyone’s score but just leave it as is. So winning against the host is like a bonus)
what the actual F - I watched every Rank roulette since the beginning and I was right on EVERY replay shown ?!?! normally I am way off but what was different this time lol - Harstem, check me in on this, I gonna burn ya´ll! xD
Holy crap, I got every single one correct! I used to suck at these, guess I got some practice now :O Nice replays though, glad to see the Nederlanders competing against each other :)
So I didn't guess the first one, but I got the second and third spot on, and guessed plat 1 for the last one. And I don't even play sc2, maybe that's the key to being good at rank roulette?
P3=0 I was thinking G2 if EU server but then gave it an NA bump :D G3=2 In what world was Lowko thinking this game was better than the previous one? XD D2=2 Yeah, this game was definitely somewhere in EU Diamond, so I tried to pick the safe choice in there P3=4 Geez, this one was hard. Might've overfocused on the complete lack of muta vs muta micro (´。＿。｀) Total = 8 Pretty nice for the first episode of the season :)
I can confirm i sometimes cast microbial shroud vy accident, because of how rarely i use festors. And im plat 1/diamond 3 depending on the days so wbagever that says To me it just says microbial shroud is so bad even when i dont mean to use it it hurts me ayo
hilariously fucking up spellcasters happens in masters all the time. That zerg player definitely just experiments with weird strategies tanking his rating, the mechanics were better than silver. He's probably high gold low plat in mechanics like they guessed.
Yeah I'm asking myself the same question... Last one was in the middle of their guesses, so why does Lowko get more points? First one was weird as well.
@chtitdraco I think the goal is to score low, and right is zero, but then it is 1 for each off, but them both fitting 3 on the first one through that off
Game three, much better players. Yeah, the micro was missing in the last fight but earlier the Protoss micro'd well with the stalker pull backs. .....I'm going with Diamond 2.
terran - huge advantage vs harassment with lifting orbitals, fortresses, and repair, plus mules to compensate for the damage, and scans if they failed to build detection (which is almost always). I think the main parts of the game, which is probably engaging in the middle of the map, is still terran favored, but it's small enough that it's playable. It's in all these other circumstances that create the overall sizeable terran advantage. Some great pros can keep the game out of those circumstances and win and make the game look possible for non terrans. It's like the football equivalent of special teams. If special teams favor one side heavily, they will win most of the games, but it won't be obvious that they had an advantage because 90% of the game was balanced.
I have no talent whatsoever, and I won almost all my games with BC rush, unranked, and I didn't do it well or with any build order. I'm smart but I just can't control the units worth a damn.
Join the game yourself in Harstem vs the world right here: bit.ly/3G2rxvk
I might be blind, but there wasn't a "Vs the world" segment, just the four replays. The link brought me to Season 3 of guessing, not Season 4.
Good episode, I managed 6 points =)
Oh I see the Vs the World... it's like 10 seconds long, what is this?! The link still says Season 3 though btw
Hmm, took me 3 messages to figure this out, it looks like it's in a separate video, I spent far too long trying to guess from a 10 second clip. Wood 2 ability to follow instructions by me.
link doesn't work
Also the link URL references season 3 but this is Season 4!
I thoroughly enjoy "Who Wants to be a GM," but there really is nothing like Rank Roulette! Excited for the new season, and great first episode!
Rank roulette is back, hoping for some banger guests this season!
Finally a proper celebrity
God, I read this as, "Find a proper celebrity"
😂😅
@@mthlay15 get obama on this show
@@hckr_-gh7sefuck yeah get obama in here, that’d be incredible
WOO WE'RE BACK BABY! I will say that I actually quite like having Harstem vs the World in the description/comments, it increases the replay value for these videos after the season is over. I do wish that there was something either in the title or the thumbnail to make it distinctly Rank Roulette, because I don't watch every Harstem video, but I do really like IDOIS, Rank Roulette, and Who Wants to be a Grandmaster.
Some of those are in the channel's playlists, some of which seem up-to-date.
I love this series!
Quick suggestion: Can you tag the series name in your video titles? ex: Is This SILVER OR MASTERS?? - Rank Roulette
This makes it much easier to watch my favorite series of your videos, and might help others too :)
Gold 1 (2) Gold 3 (2) Diamond 3 (0) Platinum 2 (3) - put me in the finals captain
Lowko's gotta remember that silver/gold leaguers (like me) know that spellcasters exist but either don't know exactly what they do or we mess up the hotkeys, don't know how many times I've used blinding cloud on a group of vikings
How does the scoring work? I kinda understand but the last round confused me. They were both off by 2 ranks but Lowko got 3pts and Harstem got 5.
Was it because he guessed a different division?
Yoooo shoutout to spekkoek. Colonial times were not the greatest in hindsight but spekkoek is one of the best things to come out of it.
I can't believe it, I'm absolutely awful at this usually but suddenly was so close to the perfect game 0 0 0 1
Maybe it's an idea to incorporate the difficulty of the episode somehow? You could use Harstem's score as a baseline average for the episode. So for example Harstem scores 13 points on Episode 1 and 8 on Episode 2. You can add a (small) modifier of half the difference, say 2 points, to the guest in Episode 2. It'd also incentivize guests to try and gaslight Harstem which could make for hilarious content.
I want score relative to Harstem to be the score they get for the playoffs. Here it would be a -1. Harstem sets the difficulty baseline making his guesses relevant, its a battle to see who beats the captain the hardest
As an Indonesian, finding Kue Lapis or Spekkoek in rank roullette was not something i'd ever expected to see LOL I never knew they were a thing in the netherlands too.
Surabayans also took the name of the cake spekkoek and made a similar cake, kue spiku, it only has 3 layers with chocolate in the middle
Look at the dutch spelling of Spekkoek, it was due to the dutch occupation.
There are Indonesians here!?
I really want someone to submit one of Florencio's games to this series, just to see the utter confusion on their faces, lol.
Fun fact: the first replay of the new season was submitted by the NA Terran player: Kybrit. For those who know, know.
I didn't catch that. thanks for point that out
These 2 guys just having fun was the best thing, loved the episode - keep it up!
14 points today. Slightly behind both players.
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R1: D1, 6 points. I call this a calibration game. I saw a lot of battles, a lot of decisions being made, and I was way off.
R2: S2, 2 points. I feel this makes up for R1. I was thinking bronze until it went late game and they actually had a lot of bases.
R3: D2, 2 points. Harstem guessed the same as me, he should be proud. (Jk, I'm proud I guessed the same as him).
R4: M3, 4 points. Split the middle between Harstem and Lowko, thinking pretty much the same things they were.
Hamster! Welcome back! I love this series, and I love the work you put into it. Harstem, I love how much content you put out for the community, RR was my favorite series until you came out with Who Wants To Be A GM and Changeling, but this is still a top 3 series.
Rank roulette was particularly entertaining, love to see it!
yay! rank roulette is back! never played a game of starcraft online in my life, still im pretty good at guessing those ranks :D
Rank roulette!! Let's go!!
Nice to see the roulette back!
I've had G1, G3, D2, and M3 haha, I have an easier time with the games around my level and missed the last one a bit more. :D
Wow thank you for doing a cast with Lowko!
I still think the scoring for playoffs should be based on relative score to Harstem's score. This would make Harstem's guesses actually matter (in this format they do not) and it would balance out "hard episodes" vs "easy episodes" because Harstem would be setting a difficulty baseline with his score
FINALLY!!! I was waiting for quite some time for this piece of gold of a content. Let the rank roulette begins
No episode will be as hard as UpATree's from last season. That was unreal. This was great tho. Love Rank Roulette.
Great! Glad Rank Roulette is finally back! Expect a lot of fun and cool music on roulette rolling! And went to buy spekkoek, looks very promising!
Hartsem is kind of like the pace car, so in addtion to their own score, they should add or subract what they win or lose to harstem by. So getting 15 points in a match where harstem gets 25 points, I would conclude it was an extremely tough set of replays and getting 15 points is a very good score.
I hope we can get PartinG again now that he’s back, love that guy (almost as much as the poopman).
The ZvZ at the end seemed to have a few occasions where you could see a player with fewer mutas deciding to stay and fight even though they had easy escapes which to me was a sign of being not great. Though, in game 2 I was impressed by the timely marine block on the zerglings running in right after the proxy hatch, so maybe single clips are not a good indicator of anything! :D
yeah I assume the marine block was by accident? Every other big battle, the terran's army didn't even move. Gold and plat players usually attempt to kite even if it's done very badly. This type of "battle watching" micro is very silver and below.
I like the longer games but it might just be me
Bro, I was just thinking about Rank Roulette like yesterday. Good to see it's back.
I did pretty well: gold 1 (1), gold 3 (1), plat 2 (2), diamond 1 (2) = (6.). It helps that I've fairly recently gone through gold/plat in NA.
I kinda miss the Harstem vs Viewer- match at the end.
I#D like to see it again some time
Been hard stuck in Diamond 4 for a while now
I know you guys are the best of friends so I just can't wait for the uThermal rank roulette episode.
Thnx HAMSTER !!! How about inviting PiG or ZG ? ^^
Love this series, but it is tricky finding it on titles alone in the youtube feed.
Glad to see this back
Rank Roulett is the best content on that website xDDD
Keep it up Harmstem!
What an insanely hard series of games to guess!
Harstem so nice if you to bring in the second best Dutch sc2 UA-cam to your show
I called the league and division in the 2nd game so quick, I have played so many zergs like this few months ago.
They messed up because they didn’t pay enough attention to upgrades. Zero conception of upgrades is silver for sure
That's overselling gold and plat by a lot.@@Name-ru1kt
@@Name-ru1kt I don't think upgrades are a tell for leagues at all. There's so many cheesers in diamond that forget upgrades even when the game transitions.
The tell for me was the terran's micro. In all the big battles after surviving the proxy hatch, his units didn't even move at all. Gold and plat usually at least attempt to micro even if it's very badly. This 0 apm micro and just watching the battle is very silver and below.
I felt like that zerg player was just experimenting and making random terrible comps. I'm surprised you faced a lot of players exactly like him. The zerg player had better than silver level macro mechanics with the creep spread and easily maxing out without floating many resources. He probably could be gold/plat if he just built normal comps instead of infestor muta. Weird archetype of player imo.
@@panner11 I felt the exact vibe you get in the league. I don't know why. It's either the lack of commitment or the lackluster macro that gives it away. To grandmasters, every silver bronze and gold are basically the same. To a platinum guy like me, 2200 and 2400 zergs are wildly different
Rank roulette is coming - with all its horror and all its glory!
Awesome with Rank Roulette again!
Is it me, or do we see a lot less from the games? Do the contestants see more than we do in the edited version?
Maybe I just have gotten used to Harambo, where we see a lot more.
I wouldn't mind to see more if the contestants do that as well :)
14 for me. That last game destroyed me. I guessed master 1 lol
I agree with Lowko. I was gold 2ish, and I never touched infestors.
2 of these games were the same rank. I guess gold 1 on one of them and master 2 on the other. I might as well just be drawing from a hat
It's back! Yes!
The Spekkoek comments were a joke? Man, you just don't joke about the Spekkoek.
Great, my favorite north belgian sc2 youtubers 😊
19:00 losing from that advantage made me thing Plat 2
Yeah I think they were too impressed by the unit comps. Unit comps aren't that trustworthy to tell the rank. Anyone who watches a lot of pro games, but doesn't play much is capable of making very decent/standard comps. And being able to macro decently with good units comps is enough to bring you to diamond by itself. But the execution was terrible, every fight was a just a full commit with no retreat when the tide turned even when retreating would be easy and no pressing the advantage. There was zero chance it was masters.
Lowko AND Harstem? Yes please!!!!
Im gonna suggest that rather than the playoffs be full of players that only had low points, that you also give someone negative points for beating harstem. So lowko would get 11 points here because he beat harstem by 1, and if he had won by 3 he woulda had 9. That corrects for some episodes being harder than others, and is also some proper good Dutch accounting for Hamster to do 😉
(If Harstem wins, I suggest you don’t add points to anyone’s score but just leave it as is. So winning against the host is like a bonus)
That terran in game 3 was most certainly map hacking
Wut.
Best game show out there not hosted by Steve Harvey… yet.
all this time I thought they were the same person!
what the actual F - I watched every Rank roulette since the beginning and I was right on EVERY replay shown ?!?! normally I am way off but what was different this time lol - Harstem, check me in on this, I gonna burn ya´ll! xD
I think it cut off early at the end there
StarCraft UA-cam king lowko !!
Oh it Looo-kwo…lokwo? Ohhh Hellowko!
This was fun!
Holy crap, I got every single one correct! I used to suck at these, guess I got some practice now :O
Nice replays though, glad to see the Nederlanders competing against each other :)
OH snap, first time eveer I got the first 2 right.... have to watch the rest now :D
Hmm... 1 off on the 3rd one. Still a great score so far
Best series on UA-cam 🎉
I scored 6 and I have no idea how. I haven't played SC in years. Fun though! gg
Seems like for the harstem vs the world you did not tell us what server the replay is from
Pretty good creep spread for a silver 1 though
It felt like someone with better than silver mechanics, but just does really wacky ineffective strategies.
Yooo Rank Roulette returns 🎉
So I didn't guess the first one, but I got the second and third spot on, and guessed plat 1 for the last one. And I don't even play sc2, maybe that's the key to being good at rank roulette?
i think in 3rd round Harstem was off only by 1 no? 17:27 but got 2 points 17:37
P3=0 I was thinking G2 if EU server but then gave it an NA bump :D
G3=2 In what world was Lowko thinking this game was better than the previous one? XD
D2=2 Yeah, this game was definitely somewhere in EU Diamond, so I tried to pick the safe choice in there
P3=4 Geez, this one was hard. Might've overfocused on the complete lack of muta vs muta micro (´。＿。｀)
Total = 8
Pretty nice for the first episode of the season :)
IT IS BACK, YES YES YES
ProbBly one of the best series in all of youtubs yeah iodis is great. Yeah bgwss is also great. But this is amazing 😅
Silver always Silver.
where can you send in replays?
Lowko should get seeded into playoffs.
I want to see one where no ranks are revealed untill the end, and they're all GM.
I guessed D2, D3, D1, D1 I really suck at this lol
Solid 8 for me good games
I can confirm i sometimes cast microbial shroud vy accident, because of how rarely i use festors. And im plat 1/diamond 3 depending on the days so wbagever that says
To me it just says microbial shroud is so bad even when i dont mean to use it it hurts me ayo
hilariously fucking up spellcasters happens in masters all the time. That zerg player definitely just experiments with weird strategies tanking his rating, the mechanics were better than silver. He's probably high gold low plat in mechanics like they guessed.
These were my guesses:
silver 2
bronze 1
diamond 3
silver 3
How does the scoring work?
Yeah I'm asking myself the same question... Last one was in the middle of their guesses, so why does Lowko get more points? First one was weird as well.
@chtitdraco I think the goal is to score low, and right is zero, but then it is 1 for each off, but them both fitting 3 on the first one through that off
@@Wwillswords yeah this must be some Dutch accounting practices
Woo my favorite series is back ^_^ 🎉
10pts, great start for me
sad that 2 time champ won't be returning, but hey maybe Lowko only wins the odd seasons
Rrrrrraaaannnnkkkket Rrrrooouuuulllllet!
Love this and who wants to be a gm
didn't Lowko make 2 points in the last round? D1 to D3
you should do a small section were you both speak your language. just to hear how it sound
I'm going to comment my guesses as I watch, play along on the record. First game, Plat 3. They really didn't watch their troops or micro well.
HELL YEah! Right on it!
2nd game, Silver 1. The suckedeth 'twas mighty in this match
Holy shit, I'm a fucking genius! None can defeat me!
Game three, much better players. Yeah, the micro was missing in the last fight but earlier the Protoss micro'd well with the stalker pull backs. .....I'm going with Diamond 2.
Damn, Lowko beat me. But I would still be ahead by the rules of the game at this point.
I'm in silver league and I understand corruptors are good against muta.
terran - huge advantage vs harassment with lifting orbitals, fortresses, and repair, plus mules to compensate for the damage, and scans if they failed to build detection (which is almost always). I think the main parts of the game, which is probably engaging in the middle of the map, is still terran favored, but it's small enough that it's playable. It's in all these other circumstances that create the overall sizeable terran advantage. Some great pros can keep the game out of those circumstances and win and make the game look possible for non terrans. It's like the football equivalent of special teams. If special teams favor one side heavily, they will win most of the games, but it won't be obvious that they had an advantage because 90% of the game was balanced.
This is still going? I thought Harambo was the new rank roulette.
finally!
Mans not got rank roulette in the title i almost didnt watch this
If we're inventing new leagues, put me in Bronze 4.
I have no talent whatsoever, and I won almost all my games with BC rush, unranked, and I didn't do it well or with any build order. I'm smart but I just can't control the units worth a damn.
My guesses:
Gold 3
Gold 2
Diamond 2
Diamond 1
I always get 6, 8, 9 points when watching the video, guessing before them and being truthfull, but when I play in the googleform replay I suck :|
Spekkoek is the best koek
Got 16 points on that one. I am so bad at this game :D
I'm so much better at these guesses than Harstem and Lowko because I suck.