From my own findings: 1. EM client for windows is my preferred client also how it works with caldav/carddav. 2. Second iOS native mail/notice/reminder/calendar apps. The interaction of 1 and 2 are without problems. 3. Kmail/Kontact, evolution and thunderbird are ok, but all have problems with caldav/carddav. The mail part is fine, though. 4. Claws, balsa and geary are ok if you don’t need DAV integration, you can export addresses that others accept. Z. The exclusion of Kmail is somewhat negligent.
What’s with caldav/carddav? If you want more than one calendar, task list or address book you have to add them. This works with emclient and iOS as you expect. Create new calendar and it’s there. Evolution, Kmail/kontact and thunderbird(both windows and Linux) expect the calendar to be already there , login again and add it to the your lists.
Any Linux email clients that have rules like Microsoft Outlook? I like having rules that run tasks such as, delete emails from "xxxxx" after two weeks (or 30 days or six months).
I’m using Evolution on my Linux Mint install. Seems good so far. I’m still looking for a cross platform replacement for Evernote, be great if you could do a video for that (without Docker)
I have a problem with thunderbird. At present thunderbird opens multiple tabs, one for each reply in an email thread. How can I change this behaviour short of changing to a different email client?
kid you not. on this day July 23 2024. Thunderbird just kick me out of all my setup and telling me to add back all my profile/emails because my profile does not match the new Thunderbird update. which lead me to looking at this video
Sounds like something went wrong with Thunderbird's initial index build of your email. You should run a repair check on your account. I've had to do this once due to my Internet connection dropping during the initial index build.
I am happy with Thunderbird. At one time, it was the only email client that did not send your IP address with your email to the receipent. That is most important in today's world where everyone wants to harvest all your idenitifing marks. I missed that point in your analysis.
Thunderbird is the most fully featured client. It also has the advantage of being able to transfer a profile to another Thunderbird client on Windows or other distro of Linux.
kmail, WHY?, cos its very stable and works integrated wih linux in background, i would say its what any mail client should be.. Evolution is nices but doenst work like akinadi framework
Thunderbird has no slowdown with gmail. That's just discounting Linux's easiest option. On this Microsoft-y, Outlook-y list of requirements, Thunderbird is the closest equivalent. But you should probably be travelling in the opposite direction and looking at LoRa, Meshtastic, onionmail. But but but... isn't the point of email to make all humanity mutually available at all time via a single communication protocol? Well yes that's exactly why you should use Linux to try and do something else.
The mail directory in my Thunderbird is 7.7GB in size and it starts immediately - no delay. If yours is slow it is probably not Thunderbird's fault. Mine is using POP3 not IMAP
There's a couple of reasons you might prefer a native client: 1. Less noise - a browser is, quite literally, *everything*, and more often than not, it's built in a way that makes you *want* a piece of that everything, be it by search suggestions, advertisements, etc. If all you want to do is check your emails without worrying about getting sucked into the internet rabbithole, a native client might keep those impulses at bay. 2. Less overhead - again, a browser is everything, meaning that if you open a tab just to check your email, you're also loading things like a.) your extensions b.) your search history c.) custom userscripts, etc. etc. For many people, this is a non-issue, but it's nice to know there's an alternative if your hardware is a bit on the leaner side. 3. Multiple mail sources - Yahoo wants you to use Yahoo, Gmail wants you to use Gmail, Outlook wants you to use Outlook. I know that you can set up multiple accounts from different email providers in that last one, though I've never done it myself, and I have no idea how to do so with the other two. You might have multiple email providers based on job, or school, or even for personal reasons (I have an email just for receipts that uses Yahoo!) Having a dedicated client can make managing multiple email providers *significantly* easier, as well as viewing all emails from *all* providers in a super convenient layout. I can blitz through 4 email accounts in about 2 minutes on Thunderbird. 4. RSS feeds - I thought these were dead, too, but have recently come to realize that this tech is absolutely *slept on*. When I get my news, I don't want to be bombarded with ads, or stories I don't care about, or have to check the same website every hour to see *if* a new story has come up. Subscribing to RSS feeds on Thunderbird allows me to keep up-to-date with exactly the causes and projects that interest me with *zero* of the surrounding noise. Naturally, some may find these advantages largely immaterial, and will continue to use an email on a browser. And that's fine! But there are *certainly* benefits to compartmentalizing your workflow, rather than having your entire digital life be centralized around a single point of control. Cheers!
I have three good reasons to mention 1. You have a local backup 2. If you have multiple email addresses it makes it easier to check them all 3. Less ads
Audio sounds great... appreciate you sharing YOUR unique view!!!
From my own findings:
1. EM client for windows is my preferred client also how it works with caldav/carddav.
2. Second iOS native mail/notice/reminder/calendar apps.
The interaction of 1 and 2 are without problems.
3. Kmail/Kontact, evolution and thunderbird are ok, but all have problems with caldav/carddav. The mail part is fine, though.
4. Claws, balsa and geary are ok if you don’t need DAV integration, you can export addresses that others accept.
Z. The exclusion of Kmail is somewhat negligent.
What’s with caldav/carddav?
If you want more than one calendar, task list or address book you have to add them.
This works with emclient and iOS as you expect. Create new calendar and it’s there.
Evolution, Kmail/kontact and thunderbird(both windows and Linux) expect the calendar to be already there , login again and add it to the your lists.
All done only with imap&DAV of multiple mail providers.
Vivaldi has an email client too, it's not bad at all.
Any Linux email clients that have rules like Microsoft Outlook? I like having rules that run tasks such as, delete emails from "xxxxx" after two weeks (or 30 days or six months).
Thanks for the review. I didn't know betterbird existes, and will definetuvely test ir. Best regards.
I have several mail servers in Thunderbird and no start-up delay. 🤔
I’m using Evolution on my Linux Mint install. Seems good so far. I’m still looking for a cross platform replacement for Evernote, be great if you could do a video for that (without Docker)
I have a problem with thunderbird. At present thunderbird opens multiple tabs, one for each reply in an email thread. How can I change this behaviour short of changing to a different email client?
kid you not. on this day July 23 2024. Thunderbird just kick me out of all my setup and telling me to add back all my profile/emails because my profile does not match the new Thunderbird update. which lead me to looking at this video
Sounds like something went wrong with Thunderbird's initial index build of your email. You should run a repair check on your account. I've had to do this once due to my Internet connection dropping during the initial index build.
I am happy with Thunderbird. At one time, it was the only email client that did not send your IP address with your email to the receipent. That is most important in today's world where everyone wants to harvest all your idenitifing marks. I missed that point in your analysis.
Thunderbird is the most fully featured client. It also has the advantage of being able to transfer a profile to another Thunderbird client on Windows or other distro of Linux.
I like look and feel of thunderbird, but i was unable to get it work with ms 365 calenda, so i stick with evolution for now
Using mutt over here, in combination with vim as editor. Still the best!
Thanks Great Video.
Video molto utile, grazie
Please use a Wired MIC. your headphone/bluetooth or computer builtin MIC sound so off.
Kmail and claws are good too
Thank you
kmail, WHY?, cos its very stable and works integrated wih linux in background, i would say its what any mail client should be.. Evolution is nices but doenst work like akinadi framework
Thunderbird has no slowdown with gmail. That's just discounting Linux's easiest option. On this Microsoft-y, Outlook-y list of requirements, Thunderbird is the closest equivalent. But you should probably be travelling in the opposite direction and looking at LoRa, Meshtastic, onionmail. But but but... isn't the point of email to make all humanity mutually available at all time via a single communication protocol? Well yes that's exactly why you should use Linux to try and do something else.
Hell's bells!! You are almost 4 minutes into your rambling diatribe before you even NAME one of those Email Services.... Sorry, I gave up after that.
Mailspring is dead. Hopefully somebody take it over. Was a good email client 😢
well, thats very easy, by milles its kmail, poeple who says otherwise doesnt understand a s...
Thunderbird is also very good
The mail directory in my Thunderbird is 7.7GB in size and it starts immediately - no delay.
If yours is slow it is probably not Thunderbird's fault.
Mine is using POP3 not IMAP
If you only use one device…
POP was good in the 90s. IMAP or whatever MS calls theirs now is absolutely essential in 2024.
Web app then, web app now
I've always used a web browser, never having seen a point to e-mail clients.
Finally somebody with some sense
There's a couple of reasons you might prefer a native client:
1. Less noise - a browser is, quite literally, *everything*, and more often than not, it's built in a way that makes you *want* a piece of that everything, be it by search suggestions, advertisements, etc. If all you want to do is check your emails without worrying about getting sucked into the internet rabbithole, a native client might keep those impulses at bay.
2. Less overhead - again, a browser is everything, meaning that if you open a tab just to check your email, you're also loading things like a.) your extensions b.) your search history c.) custom userscripts, etc. etc. For many people, this is a non-issue, but it's nice to know there's an alternative if your hardware is a bit on the leaner side.
3. Multiple mail sources - Yahoo wants you to use Yahoo, Gmail wants you to use Gmail, Outlook wants you to use Outlook. I know that you can set up multiple accounts from different email providers in that last one, though I've never done it myself, and I have no idea how to do so with the other two. You might have multiple email providers based on job, or school, or even for personal reasons (I have an email just for receipts that uses Yahoo!) Having a dedicated client can make managing multiple email providers *significantly* easier, as well as viewing all emails from *all* providers in a super convenient layout. I can blitz through 4 email accounts in about 2 minutes on Thunderbird.
4. RSS feeds - I thought these were dead, too, but have recently come to realize that this tech is absolutely *slept on*. When I get my news, I don't want to be bombarded with ads, or stories I don't care about, or have to check the same website every hour to see *if* a new story has come up. Subscribing to RSS feeds on Thunderbird allows me to keep up-to-date with exactly the causes and projects that interest me with *zero* of the surrounding noise.
Naturally, some may find these advantages largely immaterial, and will continue to use an email on a browser. And that's fine! But there are *certainly* benefits to compartmentalizing your workflow, rather than having your entire digital life be centralized around a single point of control. Cheers!
I don't remember the last time I used a client. Even work is web based.
I have three good reasons to mention
1. You have a local backup
2. If you have multiple email addresses it makes it easier to check them all
3. Less ads
@@harald4game "What ads?" asks uBlock Origin.
he forgot mutt :(
Email clients are soo 90's.
Please use a Wired MIC. your headphone/bluetooth or computer builtin MIC sound so off.