Wow this shit is crazy. Cant believe all the pros doomed about aba like that. Hotashi, Leffen only ones I've really seen keep calm are diaphone and lord knight. Thank you for compiling all this tech
Hey, thanks for putting this together! Just curious, do the fuzzies work on short characters like Baiken and Giovanna? I've been having trouble landing those setups against them and wasn't sure if it was my execution or they just aren't fuzzyable (namely off of the whiff j.p safe jump and the c.s BRC 236K into rising j.s ones) given their height.
i just cannot get the super wallbreak fuzzy timing down. i can do it but not consistently at all. the timing on the jp feels like it has to be at the earliest possible frame or else the js is too low and doesnt allow a second jump.
do you plan at all to upload these to the game's combo/setplay thingy? gg strive is the frist fighting game im taking seriously, i managed to get over 200 wins + tower rank 8 but i want to get even better! ...but in my mind, i struggle to translate "236k" to "quarter circle forward B" ngl, so i rlly do like using the ingame combo uploads, as they display all the right glyphs ...or maybe i should just write myself a translator lol
Congrats on getting to floor 8 on your first fighting game! I'm currently putting a few combos and setups on the in game combo maker, and I'll make a short with the codes on them soon. I'll most likely comment a link when it done, but for now here's a website you might find useful: ygg-m.github.io/fg-input-translator/ Here you can notate combos, or copy paste them, and have them translated to the glyphs.
@@anthonyhewitt1656 thank you! the benefit is that by timing iadb jS your low option becomes 2D instead of 2K, so you don't get a fuzzy which is sad but your low option is more threatening
You always cross up if you're really close, so be mindful of the distance between you and the opponent. If you're doing no delay it should still safejump though, you just have to block the other direction
oh sick! you're awesome thank you so much! i hope you're not east coast cause it's so late right now when you responded! get some sleep! thanks for the guide!!! hopefully my improvement goes a bit smoother now that i can use the tool again while practicing your guide 👏🏽 thanks again
The throw should only come out if they do a DP. If they're doing a DP but your grab is whiffing you might not be doing forward fast RC. If you're doing all that and its still whiffing, tell me what character you're testing vs and are they doing stand FD
I'm surprised to see my NM236KFRRC tech in someone else's vid before I could put mine together. Glad you didn't cover everything about it, at least! Guess I've gotta rush the video now lmao
Didnt know where that tech came from but honestly its one of my most used meter usages with NM so far, so nice find. Good luck making the video Im excited to see what else the tech has 🧐
If the jS is whiffing entirely theres 3 things that could be going wrong 1) Youre not walking before jumping up, this will have the opp kd'd while ur jS whiffs 2) jD isnt being whiffed asap in the air, here jS will hit the floor and not become active, having your opp standing but not blocking anything 3) The iadb is too slow and youre air dashing back too low to the ground for jS to have time to activate, this one can be visually checked but the opp will be standing again without having to block If the jS isnt safejumping the issue is with the amount youre walking before jumping. If none of this is the problem lmk and I'll try to help best I can, good luck!
@@eebbaa5560 I'm not sure what you mean by kara fd, if theres a point in the video I do it you could timestamp and I could explain further. If you mean doing a safejump and blocking with FD when they dp, you just have to hold back and two buttons after you press the normal youre safejumping with. If you mean something like the 236K fast RRC jK key grab with FD block coming out on DP, thats the same principle of holding back and two buttons after safejumps. If neither of those situations is what you mean please timestamp so I can help
@@XenoAme i couldn’t find a point where you did it in this video, but i’m talking about safejumps where you use FD to fast fall during the safejump setup. an example i can think of off the top of my head is one where sin whiffs 5p after throw then does IAD FD js for a safejump (i forgot the specifics but apparently IAD jh isn’t a true safejump for him). i’ve heard this technique referred to as a kara FD or an FD break and i was wondering a) if it’s useful at all for ABA setups and b) how to execute it (you can’t do it with the macro apparently).
@@eebbaa5560 Ah okay I understand what you mean now! Firstly, heres the link for what FD break is glossary.infil.net/?t=FD%20Brake A) It could very well be useful for ABA setups, but I don't know of any myself. I never tried to lab it but feel free to try and apply it yourself. It's applications are niche because you need a situation where you can just *almost* get a safejump, so finding situations may be difficult or extremely unrealistic. B) To do these "FD Safejumps" you have to manually press 2 buttons because the macro doesn't instantly use FD for some odd reason. I personally know how to do this with Chipp's left/right safejump after cS otg iad jH/jS crossup. It's mainly a timing thing and I don't know any resources that directly explain it, but practicing it will help you understand how it feels. The key thing is to manually press 2 buttons to FD, and to FD like you're cancelling the air dash with FD.
@@XenoAme i have also seen that definition of FD brake. i wasn’t sure if they were interchangeable tbh. anyway, from what it sounds like, this seems like a pretty niche concept and since the safejumps in this video all work without using FD i think i’ll just ignore the whole FD thing for now lol. i’m still pretty new to the character (and inexperienced with the game) so i’m just gonna focus on making sure i know how to properly control my movement with NM ABA and continue working on my combo routing. i’m still low-ranked right now so i think the safejumps in this video should keep me covered. still, thank you for the reply. it was very helpful and i’ll definitely keep it in mind for the future, especially if i want to play sin again. your videos have really helped me to better understand the methodology of this character.
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Bruh I've been playing this character completely wrong thanks for the useful tech
Wow this shit is crazy. Cant believe all the pros doomed about aba like that. Hotashi, Leffen only ones I've really seen keep calm are diaphone and lord knight. Thank you for compiling all this tech
All your aba guilty gear videos are extremely helpful! Please make more GG videos in general!
Oops! All Safejumps
literally, its hard to make setups that dont safejump lmao
Great stuff man! Thanks for the breakdown! Really helped me step up my game.
Amazing video thank you for this!
i cannot wrap my head around the grab to j.d tech. I can probably do it 1/10 times.
God damn man I just picked up aba and this is exactly what I needed o7
got confused because i thought i had left touhou cafe playing in another window... thanks for the tips!
Cool stuff. Thanks for showing ABA setups
Omg you're a legend! Thank you for the video!
thanks for this! super useful stuff
Glorious
Great video :0
Hey, thanks for putting this together! Just curious, do the fuzzies work on short characters like Baiken and Giovanna? I've been having trouble landing those setups against them and wasn't sure if it was my execution or they just aren't fuzzyable (namely off of the whiff j.p safe jump and the c.s BRC 236K into rising j.s ones) given their height.
i just cannot get the super wallbreak fuzzy timing down. i can do it but not consistently at all. the timing on the jp feels like it has to be at the earliest possible frame or else the js is too low and doesnt allow a second jump.
do you plan at all to upload these to the game's combo/setplay thingy? gg strive is the frist fighting game im taking seriously, i managed to get over 200 wins + tower rank 8 but i want to get even better! ...but in my mind, i struggle to translate "236k" to "quarter circle forward B" ngl, so i rlly do like using the ingame combo uploads, as they display all the right glyphs
...or maybe i should just write myself a translator lol
Congrats on getting to floor 8 on your first fighting game! I'm currently putting a few combos and setups on the in game combo maker, and I'll make a short with the codes on them soon. I'll most likely comment a link when it done, but for now here's a website you might find useful: ygg-m.github.io/fg-input-translator/
Here you can notate combos, or copy paste them, and have them translated to the glyphs.
Is the frame meter mod fixed now? Heard it got broken since Aba's release or something
i don't think the 5k whiff safejump is autotimed. aba lands before jH hits meaty
Cool tech vid
Hey, can you provide recipe #'s?
is there any advantage to doing this whiff jd safejump off throw at 6:45 vs doing otg cs into js? seems easier and gives you a fuzzy after no?
great video btw
@@anthonyhewitt1656 thank you! the benefit is that by timing iadb jS your low option becomes 2D instead of 2K, so you don't get a fuzzy which is sad but your low option is more threatening
I try to do the normal 5k whiff safejump and i always get the "manual dely crossup" any tips?
You always cross up if you're really close, so be mindful of the distance between you and the opponent. If you're doing no delay it should still safejump though, you just have to block the other direction
How are you able to get the frame viewer mod up and working without it crashing in training or in general with aba and the new map?
wondering the same thing
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oh sick! you're awesome thank you so much! i hope you're not east coast cause it's so late right now when you responded! get some sleep! thanks for the guide!!! hopefully my improvement goes a bit smoother now that i can use the tool again while practicing your guide 👏🏽 thanks again
In the video at 14:42 how do you get the grab to connect because after the fuzzy key grab for me I whiff the grab. Nice video btw I needed this 👍🏾
The throw should only come out if they do a DP. If they're doing a DP but your grab is whiffing you might not be doing forward fast RC. If you're doing all that and its still whiffing, tell me what character you're testing vs and are they doing stand FD
very nice vid mate
I'm surprised to see my NM236KFRRC tech in someone else's vid before I could put mine together. Glad you didn't cover everything about it, at least! Guess I've gotta rush the video now lmao
Didnt know where that tech came from but honestly its one of my most used meter usages with NM so far, so nice find. Good luck making the video Im excited to see what else the tech has 🧐
I can not connect my JD whiff into iadb JS. how did you do that? Any tips?
If the jS is whiffing entirely theres 3 things that could be going wrong
1) Youre not walking before jumping up, this will have the opp kd'd while ur jS whiffs
2) jD isnt being whiffed asap in the air, here jS will hit the floor and not become active, having your opp standing but not blocking anything
3) The iadb is too slow and youre air dashing back too low to the ground for jS to have time to activate, this one can be visually checked but the opp will be standing again without having to block
If the jS isnt safejumping the issue is with the amount youre walking before jumping.
If none of this is the problem lmk and I'll try to help best I can, good luck!
Got it！thanks for your explaning, I'll try it.
Is it me or after rekka, I get locked out of acting longer than he does in the video before I can do the 5k sj?
can you point me to any resources that teach you how to kara FD? idk how to do it but i know that it's necessary for pretty much every safejump
@@eebbaa5560 I'm not sure what you mean by kara fd, if theres a point in the video I do it you could timestamp and I could explain further.
If you mean doing a safejump and blocking with FD when they dp, you just have to hold back and two buttons after you press the normal youre safejumping with.
If you mean something like the 236K fast RRC jK key grab with FD block coming out on DP, thats the same principle of holding back and two buttons after safejumps.
If neither of those situations is what you mean please timestamp so I can help
@@XenoAme i couldn’t find a point where you did it in this video, but i’m talking about safejumps where you use FD to fast fall during the safejump setup. an example i can think of off the top of my head is one where sin whiffs 5p after throw then does IAD FD js for a safejump (i forgot the specifics but apparently IAD jh isn’t a true safejump for him). i’ve heard this technique referred to as a kara FD or an FD break and i was wondering a) if it’s useful at all for ABA setups and b) how to execute it (you can’t do it with the macro apparently).
@@eebbaa5560 Ah okay I understand what you mean now! Firstly, heres the link for what FD break is glossary.infil.net/?t=FD%20Brake
A) It could very well be useful for ABA setups, but I don't know of any myself. I never tried to lab it but feel free to try and apply it yourself. It's applications are niche because you need a situation where you can just *almost* get a safejump, so finding situations may be difficult or extremely unrealistic.
B) To do these "FD Safejumps" you have to manually press 2 buttons because the macro doesn't instantly use FD for some odd reason. I personally know how to do this with Chipp's left/right safejump after cS otg iad jH/jS crossup. It's mainly a timing thing and I don't know any resources that directly explain it, but practicing it will help you understand how it feels. The key thing is to manually press 2 buttons to FD, and to FD like you're cancelling the air dash with FD.
@@XenoAme i have also seen that definition of FD brake. i wasn’t sure if they were interchangeable tbh.
anyway, from what it sounds like, this seems like a pretty niche concept and since the safejumps in this video all work without using FD i think i’ll just ignore the whole FD thing for now lol. i’m still pretty new to the character (and inexperienced with the game) so i’m just gonna focus on making sure i know how to properly control my movement with NM ABA and continue working on my combo routing. i’m still low-ranked right now so i think the safejumps in this video should keep me covered.
still, thank you for the reply. it was very helpful and i’ll definitely keep it in mind for the future, especially if i want to play sin again. your videos have really helped me to better understand the methodology of this character.
How did you get your frame data mod to work? It keeps crashing at training mode for me.
just did this twitter.com/Wax_Tiger_Pop/status/1774955164362777056
@@XenoAme !! Tyty
is that frame data mod updated already?
Yup! twitter.com/Wax_Tiger_Pop/status/1774955164362777056
May you help me check my problem? I posted a video on my profile. I don’t know why UA-cam couldn’t let me post the link on the comment.Thanks.
14:49 well now that dps are throw immune, safe jump it is.
Me don't understand..
Is this still all viable ?
yep