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Ninebot Segway ES2 Review - The Good and the Bad!
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
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Stu’s Reviews Add some WD-40 on the scooter suspension and you never have to deal with the Squeaky sound.
Is this the same as the seat Spanish companies version ?
Just ordered one, thanks for the review. The lack of fearing a puncture was the deciding factor.
Yeah thats a HUGE selling point!
@@StusReviewsUK You can actually buy honeycomb tires to M365. Still i decided to go with Ninebot ES4. Should arrive any minute now by courier :).
@@Juissimies84 My ES4 arrived yesterday. Done 10 miles on it already. Its awesome.
How do you find the ES4 now ??
And how much km have you on it ?
Ans does it makes noises or problems?
I plan to get one but not sure which brand is good?
Mine does not make any of that noise and I have NEVER accidentally touched the brake over about 100 miles of riding.
Mine does make the noise, might be my weight which is just under the maximum. Little bit of oil makes it go away. I never braked by accident, however it’s very sensitive. And do you really consider this a budget scooter ? In my country it goes for €500 / €550
Same
The reason that the breaks activate, is that he reached max speed (Of what it currently can run, with curr. voltage etc) and the brakes activates automaticly for just a little bit.
It's annoying as hell, but that's just how it is. Even when you hack it (scooterhacking.org) and gets it up to 31-38 km/h (depending on ES2 or ES4) it still does it.
same here, but I only did 2km :D
Same and it pulls me up hills at 22 km
I'd recommend lubricating the rear and suspensions. They squeaking is caused by the suspension creaking and it can be pretty much eliminated by consistent maintenance.
How often do I have to lubricate it?
@@wokesheep Depends on weather conditions. I would say on normal mild weather with no rain you can last a month or two without even having to think about it. Generally if you go through and rain or wet roads i would clean it off and relubricate.
what do you use to lubricate the suspension?
@@MichaelGonzalez-vq7jv I would highly recommend using synthetic silicone lubricants. Use ones that are more gel like consistency rather than the watery ones. Hope this helps!
That camera angle is too funny😂👌
Thought I’d try something different! Works really well... the head is a natural stabiliser! 😂
Love this review. Totally got a 'Topgear' vibe of it. Great filming, love the drone filming at the end.
Bought the ES2 a little while back. (And later on the additional battery pack). It is absolutely great and gives so much joy in riding. Just fun, plain old simple fun.
The brakes thing, could have something to do with the energy recovery mode. When set on high the brake seems to react extremely sensitive and hard. Put it in weak mode and I have none at that experience anymore.
The diabolical squeaking sound is real.yes, it is no scary fairytale story, it is real! But, I service both my ES2s about every month by spraying the suspension both front and back with PTFE tefspray. It get rid of that sound immediately.
No electrical problems here at this point yet, but I must say we never use them in rain (although it should be able to with IP55 classification)
Again, love the review. Hope to see more!
This fella sounds very professional 😉👍
Reminds me of Jeremy Clarkson of E Scooters
Because of your review I'm now inspired to create a punk band called The Diabolical Squeaking Sounds. Our first album will be called Dark Murderous Tunnel. 😂
Great review!!
My scooter doesn't squeak at all and I'm nearing 800km on it. You might have needed to check if the main suspension was properly tightened (one main nut/bolt underneath). Double check wherever that sound was coming from!
Regarding the issues with the electronics, I'd recommend that everyone purchase their scooter through a reputable local seller (as you suggested) so that easy returns can be made (should there be a problem).
If the scooter breaks down, is outside of the warranty period, and a person wants to repair it themselves - almost all of the parts are available to purchase online. The key elements are; The battery, the motor/wheel, and the control board. A control board is only about $35-$65 online. A motor/wheel is about $80-$100. A battery is around $45-$95. The control board is usually the issue. Lots of screws and unnecessary pieces of plastic to remove, but it's all fixable with patience.
It's not the most rugged machine, but I've gotten almost 800km out of it so far without so much as a loose screw. Even the tires are holding up pretty well. I did suffer the well known control board fuse issue that causes the headlight to trigger the brake (v1.1 to v1.3 model scooters are susceptible to that issue). I installed an external headlight to solve the problem. I'd highly recommend that every owner buy an external headlight to attach to the handlebar and not use the internal headlight to avoid a possible issue with the control board fuse. You can still activate the lights under the scooter and the back red lights via the app.
Overall I'm happy with my scooter. I think you did an excellent job reviewing it. Your reviews are quite entertaining and informative.
I hope the U.K. gets its scooter laws worked out soon!!
Ride safe!!
Thanks for the good review
Do you plan to review the M365 Pro as well soon ?
The harsh breaking is for safety. Being able to break quickly is important. You can mod the firmware to be softer tho.
Also, the squeaking can be fixed easy by using some WD-40 or lock oil.
do you know where i can find more info on modding it?
I used WD-40 on my es4 and it made no difference, I tried GT-85 instead, which is more of a maintenance spray and it works great, it also works well on the wheel bearings too
I think the best part of your video was you scooting the entire length of the aqueduct. I was like... Wow! Great video, in all 👍👌
Biggest problems I had (and I had enough of this scooter and sold it to get the m365) were: 1) problems with puling up the hill, it doesn't have that much power. 2) bolts always come loose, so I had to change every bolt on the main handle beam, it becomes shaky. 3) if you lean to much forward the electronic break kicks in. 4) overheating will make it go slow, so it has a low tolerance point for heat. 5) dust gets into the speed and break handles so they get stuck when you push down so stopping becomes a pain as the spead locks in a lot of the time. 6) constand noises from the suspention 7) SUPER bad customer support, it takes them 3-4 weeks to reply and it's a "do this and this reply" even if I pre-empted them questions and they still did the same 8) if the software malfunctions and recovers you have a chance to get your max speed locked at 20km/h, now they solved it but it took them 2 months to release an update 9) no cheap spare parts 10) cannot be customised like the m365
so i should get the m365 100%??
@@dittoronaldo28 I've been using it now for around 2-3 months and I love it (my sister also got one so both of us are using it daily now), much more stable then the ES2. The only downside are the tires as they are not solid rubber tires so they can get a puncture but you can just buy some solid tires for about $12-15 per tire and get a bike specialist to install it for you (thats what I've done) and it will be the same or better then the ES2. Few points to add, the m365 battery lasts much longer for me them ES2, it is more powerful going up hill, the best thing about the m365 is that you can customise the crap out of it as the community is huge, you can find loads of cheap parts and accessories on sites like AliExpress.
@@dittoronaldo28 also my sister has been using hers for 8 months now so in terms or reliability and longevity it already is much better then ninebot ES2
Thanks you made my mind up. The M365 is on sale here for $NZ 499 , while the E2 is $NZ799
What's your weight ?
The speed depends on your weight I've found and it's meant for around 100lbs as far as I have found.
The squeaking could be fixed with some oil/lubricant
Ive had my es2 for about 6 months now I use it to go to the gym so I don’t have to get in and out of my car after working out.. I use it to go grocery shopping ive gone 4 miles to the local grocery store and back with a pack full of groceries and it saves so much time for me finding parking or waiting at red lights.. I also use it to just ride around the neighborhood all of the neighborhood kids get a kick out of it when I pass by haha but yeah its really cool actually I wish it was a little faster but it goes fast enough if you really think about it and I wish the battery lasted longer but I got the base model I suggest going for the upgraded model but you can always buy the battery attachment for 200 odd dollars. Cool scooter wearing gloves and a helmet will definitely make it feel more comfy
Talk about the design! Oh, how I fell for it. It looks much slicker than the m365. Yeah, the regenerative breaking needs getting used to. Was riding it for 6 months... the squeaking and that vibration noise are still driving me nuts. Yes, I tried WD40 on it, no luck yet.
I used some cheap lock oil, never a squeak after that.
WD40 may not be the right oil for it.
try motorcycle chain wax spray by maxima. you can find it on amazon
Great review, even better whisky selection
Just bought one, hope it will be a good device because its my first one
I advise you to join facebook groups for the es2. Lots of tips available to make riding experience better
@@DogInaBathtub thanks man, will do that!
Any good bro I’m about to purchase one and how much did it cost you
Great review, many thanks. I notice you wearing gloves - when I've rented this scooter before my hands go funny with the vibration. Were you wearing the gloves to help with the vibration? Any recommendations please?
so i had this squeak problem what i did is return it and got new one. I have the es2 and i bought the battery so far no problems and yes i recommend the extra battery
Kamikaze does your scooter still work?
I have a ninebot es2 but mine does not make those noises and i don’t ever press the brake accidentally so I think it must be you
I got an ES3 model from Costco. so far no squeaks, the sport mode gets up 17mph.
when riding the scooter you need to actually learn to lean, when braking you lean backwards so you don't start flying... when accelerating you need to lean forward to keep a steady amount of traction.
Thanks.
loved the drone shots at the end. You should include some at the start too.. was a pretty fun review mate
Love your work Stu!
Cheers Daniel!
Thanks, good job reviewing es2. A great help for me on deciding what scooter to buy for myself. 👍
I've owned an ES2 with the extended battery since April and have put somewhere in the range of 350 miles on the scooter.
One thing I should warn people about is the lackluster customer support from Segway, I had to contact them for warranty support because the front tire tread was worn through by June and they still haven't helped me.
Also in my experience the squeaking will get worse as you use the scooter more regularly, and beware the screws will loosen themselves over time so be sure to check them regularly.
Great video! So which do you like better this one or M365?
thanks for da honest review, just bought one :D
Let me know how you get on!
@@StusReviewsUK okie so...as i live in the country side rn the roads arent the best, it did really good
ive driven just 40 km yet and the cons i detected were when i pressed or let away the gas or break buttons, they started to squeak a little bit and the steer got quite loose... but overall i like it😄
Ordered mine today cant wait .. i was going with the megawheel A3 but i changed my mind hope i made rhe right decision 🙏
Is it Bad!?
Very good review...and very funny. Thank you.
Thanks for a straight forward review. 👍🏼
sadly even after 4 years the electric scooters are still not legal here in london... such a shame :(
I bought mine for 340 EUR with shipment insurance included in January 19. I can't recommend to buy it for higher price as the noises from hinges or suspension are really scary. I planned to buy extended battery mainly to increase speed but with those solid tires and of course"brakes" I would probably end up dead or severely injured on our bumpy roads and bike trails or if lucky just broken scooter. Brakes are really not safe and Xiaomi has this better. With my weight 76-78 kg I can make around 12-15 km on one charge strongly depending on wind. I have driven around 600 km and so far it is working well but I feel that it is starting getting apart. I do not think that I will be able to cross 1500 km. This scooter really needs good quality roads and light driver. There are also missing indicators as you really have to hold the handle with both hands so you can't show direction on road with hand. However for the money I paid I feel that it is good experience and I got a lot of fun.
340€??? lucky, thats so cheap for it... i bought mine from hands for 430 but in shops they cost like 499😶
@@Bal0line I ordered it from China, used some special coupon on gearbest. It is basically tax free but it is with only 1 year warranty and I think that if something would break there will be serious issues to get scooter fixed here in Slovakia and ship it back to China would cost fortune.
@@Marek737 mine has 1 year warranty too and to fix them officially then the closest repair is in Finland ;-;
Cool, thank you for a great review. I am now happy owner of a ninebot scooter. 🥳👍
i got es4 its amazing love your reviews
I knew a guy who had the es2 with the extra battery pack and the battery pack literally caused his scooter wires to melt. Obviously the scooter can’t handle the voltage or something. He just used it for standard commuting and stuff, then one day it just stopped working. He took it apart and saw that the cheap wires inside had melted. The scooter had slowly killed itself from the inside out.
yes they can mine one have no problems at all
"Think I look like an idiot, in a helmet" ...
Have you ever thought that it is the ones that ride without helmets that are the actual idiots?
Agreed!
Haha you obviously lack balance & technique.
@@Anonymous-pl6fi Wearing a helmet isn't about how good or bad oneself is driving. Other idiots in the traffic think they own the road and therefore have the right to drive their huge cars they can barely handle into people and stuff.
Same goes with other scooters and bikers who think they're gods gift to humanity.
Personally, I wear a helmet due to how others behave in the traffic in very unpredictable ways. Some times I wonder if I'm then only one on the planet who still got a common sense in traffic.
@Jamack Black ong bro
Now that you've had the scooter for a while. How is it holding up? Any problems/issues?
I started researching e-scooters...ended up buying a Onewheel XR XD
@@1vbAPiYk not lame kid lol 😂😂😂
What are the security options for this scooter? With solid tires, it would mean the bike can’t be locked through the tires with a regular chain lock. I read perhaps it can be locked by the app? Please advise.
Thank you for this review, I'm struggling between m365 and es2 . now i have clear my mind I'm going for the m365.
This is like the Top Gear for Scooter. 😀
I am looking at buying an E-scooter, however I can't decide between the Ninebot by Segway Es2 (2019) and the Xiaomi M365 (2019).
I have heard good and bad about both, and love your reviews, but my deciding factor will be the tyres. I am not super knowledgeable about scooters or bikes so I'll need something relatively easy to maintain.
I will mainly be using it on paths, but would like to have something that can occassionally handle riding on mowed lawn grass. I am thinking the inflatable tyres on the Xiaomi would suit, but am wary about them being incredibly hard to change. Yet the solid tyres on the Segway may not be suited to grass riding? I am not sure. I also love the speed display on the Segway
Late respond but m365 tires are really bad so if u buy that then i recommend to change tires to flat free ones
Nice review,...and nice helmet. I have a Segway Ninebot ES Max I backed on Indegogo that I'm waiting for. Hopefully it'll be better than the M365 & ES2, and hopefully you'll be able to acquire one for yourself for review. If I lived in the UK (I'm on Long Island, in NY, USA) I'd spot it to you for a review. Keep up the excellent reviews mate!!! 🍻
I’ve backed them as well! So you will indeed be seeing a review of it 😁👌
I didn't buy ES Max, because there aren't as many spare parts as for xiaomi M365 PRo and it weights 18 kg unlike m365 pro's 14 kg...
@@tp7225 That's sad for you. There will be more parts and customizations available for the ES Max than any other electric scooter model currently available. Your loss,...
I also do not like the brakes on mine too. I think it could be fixed via software though. They are not linear somewhat. Very small input when riding fast makes enormous deceleration and after that breaking is OK, even too ineffective.
Thanks for the review
In this review you say it doesn't have a mechanical brake but it does! There is a fender in the back that when stepped on, is meant to act as a friction brake as stated in the manual. I too have accidentally hit the electronic brake though and its a bit jarring if you aren't expecting it because the scooter will simultaneously cut the acceleration as well, whether you're holding the gas or not.
Great point ginger! By mechanical I’m referring to a cabled breaks mostly, but you’re right 👍
I just subscribed👌👍👍👍👍
Hi! Curious which you would choose if you were choosing between this and the Xiaomi mi 365?
Great review Stu! You look tall, I’m 6”5 how comfortable do u think it would be for that height. Thanks!
Deffo just stick with the xiaomi 365 Pro (unlocked) Thanks for the review!
Hey Stew i like the look of this would you recommend
I am seriously interested in this scooter. Can someone please recommend a small alarm anti theft device or great gps tracker please as fear it getting stolen by premium chavs!!
U lock
Can you please review the GoTrax GXL V2, I’ve been considering getting this scooter and I’d like to have your opinion first!
I'm considering this scooter for a first electric kick scooter.
Can you make one video for the E45 PLEASE!!!
Thanks recently bough mine was starting to regret it but I gatta say seing your video gave me a boost that made a right choice . Since I bought for the dual suspension and for chance to upgrade it in the future.
How much do you weigh? Not sure you are light enough for this, Hence the noises and braking issues.
I had encountered once the Breaking Fail, the scooter turned off when I tried to brake before an intersection going downhill at almost max speed and I was not used to the foot break. It was almost like a death trap since I nearly ended up going into the busy intersection, so in front of moving cars :)
Damn
I think with electronic brake it's really important to take some time to practice breaking mechanically
How do you guys like it !? Its kinda a really important issue. I got one from helliot bikes now and the battery sucks !
I have a chronic condition witch made it harder and harder for me to bike like we do here in the Dutch.
I have been using the one I have now and it work great only the range of 10 km is nothing for ny daily goings.
I really got the cash finally now and NEED to know if it's worth it or ho for the max version?
Which model did you go for in the end? I want non-pneumatic tyres but my choice seems limited here in Thailand
Can this scooter be used with manual kick power if necessary?
Is this scooter budget or midrange
when he talks at studio, he talks in the same manor as Jeremy Clarkson and even his voice sounds similar
Thanks Stu 👍 I can see myself on that 🛴 😂
"I think i look like an idiot with a helmet" welll you do anyways... NOOOO I'm jk!! u help people understand why u have a helmet on. Ceep it up bro
Nice one
You have the Ninebot MAX unit ready yet Stu? Either you or Ben Fox is still pending for their review units lol. By the way, the Indiegogo backers from the UK already received their Max so any news yet?
I do indeed have my unit. And we have been busy filming! Not ready yet though... stay tuned 👀
@@StusReviewsUK Cannot wait! Keep us posted! 👍🛴
Hi! So if this and m365 are budget scooters what other scooter tiers are in the market?
The difference between this isn’t and the xiaomi is when you upgrade this one with the battery and is has 30km like the xiaomi you are testing has in handles the hills quite better because it has more power
The standard m365 and the ES2 are comparable. I think you’re referring to the m365 pro which has the larger battery.
Both my ES4 scooters failed miserably after 400 miles. Warranty is terrible. Small wheels on a small platform going 20 mph just cannot handle the wear.
The squeaking and the clunk sound the suspension makes
Have you tryed the batter upgrade?
Thanks for sharing
This is a great package - and for the money - you will happy.
The Xiaomi 365 and ninebot series are made by the same company in China. You should look at the Zero series from Singapore. I’m really interested in the 8x, duel 800 watt motors, but the Zero 9 is comparable to the ninebot ES4 and Xiaomi, but has better suspension bigger battery and 500 watt motor. The people who make the Zero series also make the Inokim, less power but also much lighter.
The Fuze grom Furo system UK Brand its better and cheaper, then zero9 and support in UK, have front and back suspension air tyres and 1kg less weight
Exactly what I needed to know, it doesn't do hills well. I need a lightweight scooter that does hills.
take xiaomi m365 pro! its good on hills!
@@jasperlambrecht1906 Agree! I have the M365 Pro and boy it can tackle hill inclines up to 20° degree angle (reduces speed up to 13-10km/hr depending on your payload). 😁🛴
Try unagi it’s super light weight and dual motors
Was you in Merthyr Tydfil riding that ?
Maybe 👀👀
9:55 here's the big but lol
This carry on flights any problem?
help i am thinking about buying ninebot es2 maybe with extra battery or ms energy neutron n3
I’m glad I bought the m365 pro I pick it up tomorrow
I bought one and later bought the extra external battery converting the scooter into a ES4. The first month I had no problems with the scooter. I was grate going further and in a more fast speed. Later I started having problems with both batteries not sinking together. On the external battery the 4 power level Leeds keeps flashing and the scooter slows down even slower like it doesn’t even have the extra battery on. Iv got it in the shop now where I bought it from and it’s still under guarantee and I want to get a refund. Iv taken the scooter back to the shop to many times with the same problems. I looked at the Ninebot Max and it has a much better range. I’m on a tight budget and bought the scooter so I don’t have to spend so much money on travelling by city buses. I was walking in the city and saw 2 Lime sckooters, both Ninebot Max’s. One had suspension and the other didn’t. You don’t usual see Ninebot Max’s in the shop with suspension.
Hey does anyone know if charging overnight is bad? I want to leave it on charge, but I’m scared that the battery may worsen. Thanks in advance.
I read that you should never over charge it
Im getting my first e scooter soon do u guys recommend the es2 or some oyher i weitht 45 to 55 kg if u recommend another one let me know and my height is like 145 im not a midget im a child
After a very long research im getting the es2
@@ramzan2635 i got the m365
@@sigmabools Nice i changed my mind so im getting the m365 pro lol
They were also illegal in DK a few years ago, now we can drive on them, and the helmet thing is also a requirement here in DK, I will NEVER drive with that piece of plastic on my head, I guess it's my own problem if I choose to hit the head, when that has been said, there are plenty of people who play police and meddle in everything but their own lives, it has never been a problem in my 57 years that people rode bicycles without a helmet, etc., but suddenly it's a problem if you don't have the ridiculous piece of plastic on. If you want to ride with it fine, but TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF and let others do what they want...
I think those who meddle in whether people drive with helmets are the same as those who recently also had to meddle in whether others walked with diapers over their mouths or not, these people were dubbed "coronas witnesses"
I hope you used the sport mode bc i went over 27kph with sport mode
(And also it doesn’t squeak for me )
I would say for the money that it costs in estonia it is around 379 euros so for me it is the best electric scooter, just saying so pls don’t be mad at me
How do you find the ES4 now ??
And how much km have you on it ?
Ans does it makes noises or problems?
There are different versions that have mostly conquered the PCB issues. V1.1 all the way to 1.5 I believe.
Also that scooter to drone transition at 11.28 👏
Some smashing info there Gary! Thanks! 😁👌👍
If we buy one today, are customers guaranteed the latest version with out the PCB issues? I really want one but I've seen a lot videos from here and on reddit filled with pcb issues from about a year or more back. Also how could someone identify which version of the scooter do they have?
Why is climbing hill slower tho since it's watt rating is higher than Xiaomi
Hey what was Sam riding???
M365
I bought it for 239€
It was 50% off
Its delivered in max 4days
nice, but as a public transportation user: PORTABILITY is everything. All of them are good. Whoever makes a backpackable model will eat the market. Wait and see
Take a look at my review of the mantour X! Smallest one I’ve seen yet!
Can u do more electric scooter reviews
I have done 👀
Please review m365 pro.
That will be great! I have the Pro and it's so much better than the regular M365 hehe! Go Stu do it for the E-scooter community! 😁🛴
How to limit the speed if one wants to put an external battery on it?
On the app
I think it is a much better product than the xiaomi
It’s also made by Xiaomi. (Segway/ninebot are owned by Xiaomi)
That's dope!
The link to sign a petition dont work....
It comes with WD40 when you buy this lol... good review, thanks!
Mine didn't develop problems until after 600 miles
Curious, HOW do you possibly call this a BUDGET SCOOTER when it's 2-3X more expensive than your avg electric scooter??
Because it is a budget scooter. Anything under £400 is your staple scooter that most fleet companies use because they are considered ‘budget’ with decent performance. Mid range comes in at 500-800 with devices like the ninebot max. Anything over that you’re getting into high end.
@@StusReviewsUK Wow! That's amazing. Here in Canada.. the avg electric scooter is like $149-$249
And this runs between $799-$899
my gd got an used ES1, it has 1300km(800 miles) on the clock, going strong